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Speaker 1: Gone in other days when we're going to have separate

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Speaker 1: ministries for transport, the environment and housing, they're all going

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Speaker 1: to be merged into one mega ministry called MSERT, the

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Speaker 1: Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and Transport. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Don Callacy, who is the CEO of Transporting New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: and of course the new ministry will affect his sector.

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Speaker 2: Hello Don, morning Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Are you happy with this news or is it a whatever?

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Speaker 2: I think that there is some sensibility to it. I

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Speaker 2: think navigating across different ministries and agencies can be difficult.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes having less is small and ultimately transports one

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Speaker 2: part of a larger ecosystem, and so you know, taking

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Speaker 2: a more unified, connected approach does make some sense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, transport has an awful lot of work in

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Speaker 1: front of it, the transition to electronic road user charges

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Speaker 1: and congestion pricing, and there's a whole lot of technical

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Speaker 1: work as well, and now it's being merged into one

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Speaker 1: big mega ministry where they're thinking about other stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried that that sort of work might actually

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Speaker 1: not be done as efficiently as when you had a

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Speaker 1: dedicated ministry of transport.

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Speaker 2: I think there is a risk and that is something

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Speaker 2: we're worried about. We've just sort of started to get

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Speaker 2: some momentum in those areas and we don't want to

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Speaker 2: lose that. But look in terms of a mega ministry,

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Speaker 2: I had a quick look last night and from what

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Speaker 2: I can gather, bringing those three ministries together, plus you've

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Speaker 2: got some DIA, you're probably looking at about thirteen hundred,

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Speaker 2: maybe fourteen hundred people at the most. But if you

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Speaker 2: look at other agencies and ministries, MB's got about six

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Speaker 2: thousand people. MDTA has got about three thousand people. So

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Speaker 2: you know, big organizations like this, they're already existing and

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Speaker 2: they're working to various degree of success. It is what

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Speaker 2: it is, and we'll be doing everything we can to

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Speaker 2: help the new ministry.

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Speaker 1: Good Man, good comments, and I thank you so much.

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