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Speaker 1: Hey, good afternoon. Parliament is now more than two hours

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Speaker 1: into the debate on the punishment of the Maori Party,

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Speaker 1: although it seems to have lost a lot of its

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Speaker 1: steam with most of the major players not in the

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Speaker 1: house today. Bryce Edwards is a political commentator with US Now.

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Speaker 1: Hey Bryce, Hi, Heather, Yeah, do you think it's lost

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Speaker 1: a bit of the fizz?

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Speaker 2: Well, it has because the main players don't want it

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Speaker 2: to be too fuzzy. National and Labor do want to

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Speaker 2: sort of get beyond this debate. The minor parties are

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Speaker 2: loving it so on the left to party Marie and

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Speaker 2: Greens are pretty fired up on the rights and using

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Speaker 2: the First An Act, pretty fired up. But Labor is

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Speaker 2: very uncomfortable. They've been part of the debate, but they're

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Speaker 2: trying to tone things down. They're trying to take a

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Speaker 2: sort of middle way and it's hard work for Labor

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Speaker 2: to sort of navigate when I think the public kind

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Speaker 2: of or at least some of the Labour's voters are

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Speaker 2: in favor of some tough measures against the party. Murray MPs.

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Speaker 1: Is anybody filibustering?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've seen some really quality speeches from

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Speaker 2: all sides in this and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: There's been some emotional and sort of quite tough stuff

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Speaker 2: as well, but no, no, I think it's been excellent

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Speaker 2: debate and you know, this is a really important issue,

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Speaker 2: so I think it is apt that there is enough

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Speaker 2: time to actually debate it.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to wrap it up by sex?

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Speaker 2: Oh? If Labor National get their ways, I think it will.

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Speaker 2: But it's in the interests of those other minor parties

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Speaker 2: to keep it going. I mean to party Mary would

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Speaker 2: love to have this debate going for weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they would. Hey do you do you

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Speaker 1: think it is dawning on Labor just how toxic the

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Speaker 1: Malori Party are to them?

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Speaker 2: Oh? They would have always known how difficult it's going

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Speaker 2: to be, but this has really brought it to you know,

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Speaker 2: the sort of cutting edge of it, isn't it because

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Speaker 2: you know they're suddenly thinking are we going to be

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Speaker 2: with this sort of debate all through the election campaign?

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Speaker 2: And you know how much this is going to rub

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Speaker 2: off on us. I mean in the House today, Party

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Speaker 2: Murray MP's are talking about suspending the treaty for twenty

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Speaker 2: one days if they're out of Parliament. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: does that mean and to what extent does labor have

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Speaker 2: to start answering questions on how much they agree with

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Speaker 2: these sort of policies is a bit of a nightmare

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Speaker 2: for people like Chris Hipkins.

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Speaker 1: Bryce, thank you, I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 1: That's Bryce Edwards, political commentator. For more from Heather Duplessy

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