1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: So what happened last night is remarkable. Before the deadline 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: of ten o'clock New Zealand time, twenty living Israeli hostages 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: who had been held for two years, who had been 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: forced in some cases to dig their own graves, spend 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: unknown lengths of time in tunnels underground, and go without 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: much in the way of sustenance. At times, twenty living 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Israeli hostages were handed over by their captors back into 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: the care of Israel, which is their home. That is 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: remarkable because, I mean, let's be honest about it. In 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the last time, in the last two years, there were 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: times where surely we started to believe that we'd seen 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: the last of the survivors make it out. Surely we'd 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: assumed most, if not all, the remaining twenty would die 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: in captivity in the years that we may have thought 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: stretched ahead of us. But look at what's happened. Eight 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: is now flowing back into Gaza. People are going back 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: to their homes, whatever is left of it. The sholling 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: has stopped. So you would think this would be a 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: moment to celebrate, don't you, The very thing that so 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: many of us have been calling for for such a 21 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: long time, and increasingly in the last few months. The 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: thing has happened, for fighting has stopped, the starvation has stopped. 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: But where is the celebration. I mean, don't you think 24 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: is remarkably muted today? Now I realize a lot of 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: that will be that there is some weariness, quite rightly, 26 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: over whether this piece can hold, because so many ceasefires 27 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: have broken down in the past, and there are so 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: many ways that this ceasefire can break down. Could be 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: a rocket fire, an error, could be Hamas still refusing 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: to discidn could be anything. But I do wonder if 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: part of it is also because it's hard for some 32 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: people to give credit to Donald Trump for the role 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: that he planned in this. I mean, already there are 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: opinion pieces that are writing him out of this historic moment, 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: talking up the diplomat diplomatic efforts of others, particularly in 36 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: the Middle East, warning he will never get a Nobel 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Peace Prize for this, regardless of whether this piece holds. 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: But you can't ignore his role in this. You can't 39 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: write him out of this. He was instrumental in a 40 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: way that Biden never was, and it was for various reasons, 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: mainly because of his friendship with Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, 42 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: which Biden never had, but also because of his relationship 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: with the Arab countries, because of previous work in the 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: region in his first administration, like the Abraham Accords. Now, 45 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: let's be fair, it's always hard to give credit to 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: people we dislike. It's also very hard to give credit 47 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: to people who are so capable of dishing out copious 48 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: amounts of credit to themselves, like Donald Trump. But Trump 49 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: does deserve credit, and he deserves a lot of it 50 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: for getting the gars of conflict to a point that 51 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: it has never been before, which is that all the 52 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: living hostages are out. 53 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. Listen live to 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 55 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.