1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Ever, du see, we have hit the age of space 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: travel where it's not just professional astronauts and the billionaires 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: and stuff going into space, but it's also Katy Perry. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Katy Perry's going along with Gail King and four other 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: women and they're going to go up in a in 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: a Blue Origin rocket in just a few hours. And 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: it's the first all women's space flight in more than 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: sixty years, which apparently is quite significant. Kirby Ken is 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: the chair of the National Space Society Australia and with us. 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Hey Kirby, Hi, welcome, Thank you for having you on. 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for joining us. Why are we sending Katie 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Perry to space? What's the value in that? 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: I believe it is her wanting to go rather than 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: being sent, so to speak. I think they're all sort 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: of passengers who are choosing to have an experience. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Are they paying? 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Most of them? Are? As I understand it. 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, well that makes a lot more sense. I 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: thought we've picked this one and so we're sending it. 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: I thought maybe it's for some publicity, but I suppose 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: it probably does that as well. Are you are you 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: really actually can you say that you're up in space? 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Like you've done us space trip if you've only been 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: up there for. 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Ten minutes, it's a very good question. There's also the 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: definition of what is space now technically, and this is 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: somewhat arbitrary. That accepted definition is above one hundred kilometers. Yeah, 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 2: and the Blue Origin capsules do actually go above that level, 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: but it's what's called a suborbital trip. You're not actually 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: in orbit and going all the way around the Earth, 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: which is what would be orbiting. And that's slightly different 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: to the virgin galactic experience, which doesn't quite make it 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: to one hundred kilometers. So it's a little bit of pickiness, 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: but it is technically in space. 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Could you ever been up there? You've been to space? 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: No? I might wish, but no, only in my imagination. 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Would you like to go? 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: I would like to go, but I am probably somewhat 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: risk averse in the sense that I would like to 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: have seen many many flights before I would choose to 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: do that myself. 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Okay, And if you so were in our flights and 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: then you were prepared to go up, how much would 44 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: you pay? 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: Another interesting question when all of these space tourism companies 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: and I say, or there's been some that have come 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: and gone, but the two main ones are the Origin 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: and Virgion Galactic. They were charging initial people who were 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: signing up something in the region of two hundred and 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: fifty thousand US dollars. That has, I believe, gone up, 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: but the intent is that it will ultimately come down 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: as more and more people fly and the vehicles become 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: more reliable and they're more of them. 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Realistically, where does a bottom out at, Like, what are 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: we going to pay when normal punters like us go up? 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 2: I would venture to say they're hoping to get down 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: to maybe something in the fifty to one hundred thousand 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: dollars range being reasonable, But I guess you could equate 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: it to maybe an expensive cruise equivalent something like that, 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: But I think that's going to be quite a few 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: years away. 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, quite an expensive cruise and a very short one. Kirby, 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Thanks very much appreciated. Kirby. Iic in National Space Society Australia. 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: news Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.