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Speaker 1: It's new study. It's from a Tiger University calls for

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Speaker 1: fiber to be added to the list of essential nutrients

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Speaker 1: for human consumption. That would be the first change, by

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Speaker 1: the way, in fifty years. So the research point's basically

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Speaker 1: two a reduction in heart disease in Kansas. German co

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Speaker 1: author professor of medicine and human nutrition at the university

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Speaker 1: and is with us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, and good morning to you, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is interesting. I read a piece the other day.

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Speaker 1: It was an international piece, I think it was in

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Speaker 1: the BBC, and it was suggesting there's an increased buzz

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Speaker 1: around fiber and our view towards it. Are you part

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Speaker 1: of that is there's something happening with fiber at the

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Speaker 1: moment globally.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting question. I mean, it's been picked

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Speaker 2: up by social media worldwide and it's the in thing

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Speaker 2: at the moment, certainly in social media. But having said that,

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Speaker 2: there's been a parallel increase in the amount of information

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Speaker 2: on dietary fiber in the scientific literature.

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Speaker 1: So we're learning still.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we have learned that dietary fiber is

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Speaker 2: really an essential part of our diet if we want

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Speaker 2: to be healthy. I'm not saying it is impossible to

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Speaker 2: be healthy if you don't have much fiber, but it

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Speaker 2: certainly is one of the most important contributors to a

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Speaker 2: healthy diety.

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Speaker 1: Most people, Why would most people know almans, lentils, beans.

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Speaker 1: Most people would know that, wouldn't they.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think most people know that if you constipated

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Speaker 2: and you increase the amount of dietary fiber that you have,

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Speaker 2: it will help constipation. And I think probably it goes

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Speaker 2: a bit further. Certainly, for a long time it's been

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Speaker 2: known that it's good for certain bile diseases, for irritable

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Speaker 2: bile disease, inflammatory bile disease. But I think the body

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Speaker 2: of literature has increased enormously in the last few years

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Speaker 2: to show that dietary fiber is protective against like two diabetes,

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Speaker 2: colon cancer, conarectro cancer, one of the most important cancers

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Speaker 2: that we have, heart disease, and a number of other

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Speaker 2: conditions too, to the extent that just a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, the World Health Organization came out with a

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Speaker 2: very strong recommendation that most of the world was not

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Speaker 2: eating enough dietary fiber and should eat quite a bit

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Speaker 2: more and actually specified how much more. But I mean

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Speaker 2: the recent at that to be've undertaken is really to

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Speaker 2: try and suggest that dartary fiber should be regarded as

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Speaker 2: essential nutrient rather the same way that we regard some vitamins,

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Speaker 2: you know, minerals as essential. If you don't take vitamin C,

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Speaker 2: you'll get scurvy. Well that's the category that we wish

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Speaker 2: dartary fiber to be in.

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Speaker 1: Now making it essential changes materially.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, it really changes the emphasis

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Speaker 2: that is given to dietary fiber in nutritional recommendations. For example,

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Speaker 2: it encourages people that sell food and prepare food to

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Speaker 2: increase the amount of dartary fiber in the food intake.

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Speaker 2: And I think that people understand the conce of essentiality.

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Speaker 2: That is, to be healthy, you've got to have vitamins,

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Speaker 2: you've got to have protein, certain mino acids in protein,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, we would like people to put ditary

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Speaker 2: fiber in that category that really to get the best

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Speaker 2: out of one's health potential, dietary fiber is one of

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Speaker 2: those nutrients that should be listed along with those as

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Speaker 2: I say, mino acids, protein, and vitamins.

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Speaker 1: So Jim appreciate your time. To Jim Man, co author

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