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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six half to five.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. The Police Association just before six.

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Speaker 2: They've made a big win. The police have taking assets

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Speaker 2: off gangs. But it's taken them ten years to get there.

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Speaker 2: Why We'll ask the Police Association President Chris Carhill. Gavin

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Speaker 2: Gray's in the UK, Heir Starmer is buttering them up

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Speaker 2: for tax increases over there was about to say tax cuts.

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Speaker 2: Certainly not the way he's talking overnight. We'll play some audio.

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Speaker 2: Two seven percent house price increases here in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: next year, sound pretty good. Brad Olsen away in on that.

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Speaker 2: Plus forget gas can slash save our energy crisis.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the twenty eighth of August. Israel has

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Speaker 2: rescued hostage from Hamas it was captured nearly a year

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Speaker 2: ago on October seventh. On the goodness it has nearly

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Speaker 2: been a year. The IDF say they conducted an operation

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Speaker 2: in tunnels in southern Gaza to rescue fifty two. The

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Speaker 2: fifty two year old Kiyad parign Al Khadi four operations

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Speaker 2: by Israel have seen eight hostages rescued alive since the

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Speaker 2: start of the war.

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Speaker 3: This will be the first hostage rescued from those tunnels,

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Speaker 3: and that's significant because that is extremely dangerous territory to

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Speaker 3: operate in Gaza, Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: This is week three of its incursion into Russia, and

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Speaker 2: Ukraine says it now controls more than one hundred Russian

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Speaker 2: Russians have hit back hard. Four people have died, and

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Speaker 2: new strikes in Ukraine just a day after one of

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Speaker 2: their biggest attacks since the start of the war, the

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Speaker 2: one we told you about yesterday. Meanwhile, the United States

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Speaker 2: has imposed at new sanctions on more than four hundred

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Speaker 2: on what is set to become Russia's largest ALIENNG plant.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope we don't use theirs.

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Speaker 2: Back to New Zealand, construction costs are stabilizing. The latest

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Speaker 2: QV Cost Builders update says the average construction costs for

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Speaker 2: residential buildings have increased five point three percent this quarter.

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Speaker 2: That is the third in a row. For non residential

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Speaker 2: it's up point two down slightly from the last two quarters.

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Speaker 2: Spokesperson Simon Peterson.

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Speaker 4: It means that when they are putting their best prices forward,

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and

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Speaker 1: a playing Store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be just got nine minutes after five.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be listening to Neva and the news

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Speaker 2: there talking about this this prisoners of high risk in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: This unit of basically the worst of the worst. It's

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Speaker 2: either terrorism or its trans national organized crime. And they're saying,

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Speaker 2: welcome to prison. You know, isn't that what prison is

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Speaker 2: think about what you've done because you've been a bad person,

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Speaker 2: are working in this high risk area. We should increase

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Speaker 2: the range of rehabilitative, constructive, and cultural activities that have

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Speaker 2: And your instinct is to go bugger off. You know,

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Speaker 2: why do they need cultural activities? They've just you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess the question for this unit is, are these people,

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be good morning. It is fourteen after five.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be good morning, Ryan, says Jesse, do

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Speaker 2: these human rights people who are visiting and reporting on

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Speaker 2: our prisons also visit the ones in China, Pakistan, Iran

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Speaker 2: and Russia? I highly doubt it. I highly doubt it, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Ryan prisoners are there for a reason. No, they should

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Speaker 2: why don't they give their victims and their families privileges

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I hear what you're saying. But

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Speaker 2: Quarter past five, Ryan Bridge. The energy crisis. We've been

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Speaker 2: are saying, you know, gas alng what about bio energy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that certainly, particularly I guess in the

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Speaker 4: You're right, it's hard to get it out of some places.

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Speaker 4: ninety percent of that goes to China, pretty low value.

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Speaker 4: And we're talking about an energy shortage, a shortage of fuel,

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Speaker 2: So just burn the lungs, don't sell them to China.

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Speaker 4: Potentially that's an option. Yeah, we could use the residues

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Speaker 4: twenty five million gigadeals to put into contact. So we

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Speaker 2: We are we, then, you know, again, kneecapping one industry

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Speaker 2: mythnics et cetera. But are we not just doing more

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if we put in an LNG terminal, if those

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Speaker 4: twenty five million giga duels as Northie ended industry demand

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Speaker 2: Rob, you're the head of the Solid bio Energy Group.

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Speaker 2: What is that.

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Speaker 4: It's a subset of the bio Energy Association of New Zealands.

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Speaker 4: So I just represented a bunch of people who who

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Speaker 4: want to see this this progress. People and industry. We're

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Speaker 4: it's perfectly suited to meeting those heat requirements of North

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Speaker 4: to ECO, the governmental authority. So it's happening. We just

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Speaker 4: need to happen faster. The industry is very capable. There's

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Speaker 2: He's the head of the Solid bio Energy Group. Says

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Speaker 2: we're exporting a whole bunch of logs to China and

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Speaker 1: You need this morning and the in depth analysis early

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Speaker 1: Next, the first Word on the News of the Day

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Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: furniture beds at a play at store, News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that you talk to Big, you'll listen

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Speaker 2: to Oasis. A lot of people celebrating last night because

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Speaker 2: Calum Good morning. Decisions on whether Otago will see a

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Speaker 7: Jills Radicks told us Look, it was a good conversation

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Speaker 7: with councilors requesting a high level report on the options

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Speaker 2: All Right, weather today and Dnedan clum a mainly fine,

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Speaker 9: Stone if you're heading that way, Ryan, perhaps Look, the

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Speaker 2: All right, weather today, some low cloud or fog to start.

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Speaker 2: Right, Max Hols and Wellington, Where are you wasting money today? Max?

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Speaker 10: Well exactly? A really good story by ZBZ for Minera Today.

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Speaker 10: In early twenty twenty two, the then Labor government talked

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Speaker 10: going order. The latest it's said is that it needs

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Speaker 10: to take another look at costs and plans. No new plans,

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Speaker 10: no design, no new consent application, no timeline. Locals in

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Speaker 10: Mount Cook are frustrated. Early on Coying Order would provide

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Speaker 10: them with their updates. Now it's gone quiet. There were

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Speaker 10: homes there before. They're obviously gone. The City Missions worried

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Speaker 10: about the lack of homes. Local MP Tammatha Paul is worried.

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Speaker 10: Kaying of Order is just going to go pull the

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Speaker 10: plug completely.

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Speaker 2: What we're on earth is fifty million gone exactly.

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Speaker 10: It's an empty site.

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Speaker 2: How's your weather?

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Speaker 10: Showers clearing to find this morning? Sixteen the High Central.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, mix and never reading matters. An Auckland, Hey, Neva.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I thought we would do the weather first because I

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Speaker 2: always forget once we get cheading is a good idea, Peter,

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Speaker 2: It's a good idea.

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Speaker 11: The Auckland weather cloudy with a few showers clearing this

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Speaker 11: evening are high of seventeen. Wasn't it lovely?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday? Just felt springy, beautiful? Do you know what? The

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Speaker 2: weather is springing and the economy is about to spring tease?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it positive? Goodes? Let's talk about this beam scooter.

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Speaker 11: Oh my goodness. So look, Auckland Councils terminated its contract

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Speaker 11: with provider Beam E Scooters. Now this is over breaches

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Speaker 11: of its contract. So now it's ordered all the scooters

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Speaker 11: have got to be activated. Well this started midnight last

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Speaker 11: night and all of them they've got to be off

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Speaker 11: the streets by Friday five pm. So the council says

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Speaker 11: at the company, it deployed too many scooters and then

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Speaker 11: used misleading data to conceal that fact. So that's what

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Speaker 11: it's all about. Merv and Chetty he's the licensing and

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Speaker 11: Environmental health manager. He says, Look, the limits on the

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Speaker 11: scooter numbers, they're there for the safety of the footpath

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Speaker 11: users and to prevent use and so we can't have

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Speaker 11: so many.

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Speaker 6: Year on there.

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Speaker 11: So Beam says, you know, they're disappointed obviously, and it's

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Speaker 11: apologized to the council.

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Speaker 2: Ah, what they need to do more allegedly lied about it.

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Speaker 11: Too terrible and so Beams also says, look, it's in

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Speaker 11: the process now of appointing an independent external orditor to

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Speaker 11: examine the issue. Well it's too late now, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It is too late on your bike, on your.

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Speaker 11: Bike in the scooter and I've done the weather, so

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Speaker 11: why shall depart?

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Speaker 2: Good on your neigh for good to see you? Just

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Speaker 2: gone seventeen minutes away from six news Talk said, be

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Speaker 2: the Police Association here just before six. They have managed

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Speaker 2: to get the assets off the gangs. But why did

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Speaker 2: it take ten years? Gavin Gray's in the UK. Since

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighteen, Smith City has served communities throughout New Zealand

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Speaker 2: with quality furniture, beds and home appliances at great deals.

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Speaker 2: Over one hundred years later, the flagship store is still

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Speaker 2: in its original location, still one hundred percent New Zealand

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Speaker 2: owned and operated, so shopping with Smith City supports Kiwi business.

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Speaker 2: They boast eighteen stores across New Zealand, including the new

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Speaker 2: Wido Park out there that's in Auckland, which is now open.

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Speaker 2: They stock everything you need for your home, including bed's,

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Speaker 2: furniture appliances from the world's leading brands Samsung, Alga, Bosh,

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Speaker 2: Fisher and pikel Lazy Boys, sleepyhead, you name it, They've

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Speaker 2: got it and don't worry about getting the best deal.

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Speaker 2: I've got you back with a price promise which they'll

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Speaker 2: match any competitor's price. So why would you shop anywhere? Else.

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Speaker 2: They've also teamed up with our mates at Air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand to bring airpoints to smith City. You can start

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Speaker 2: making plans for your next holiday and earn airpoints dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wildi shop so win Win Smith City can deliver anywhere

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and has finance options and flexible payment

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Speaker 2: options to suit any budget, experience their legendary install service

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Speaker 2: or shop online Smithcity dot co dot.

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Speaker 1: NZ International correspondence with NZI Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Kiers Starm has done a speech in the Rose Garden

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Speaker 2: in London. Gavin Gray's our UK Europe correspondent, sounds like

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Speaker 2: some tax hikes are coming, Gavin. We don't appear to

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Speaker 2: have Gavin. We'll come back to him as soon as

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Speaker 2: we can. So basically what Kistarm has done is rather

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Speaker 2: than go and paint a rosy picture in the Rose

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Speaker 2: Garden in his address to the British public last night,

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Speaker 2: he has said we've got a budget comment coming in October.

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Speaker 2: Things are bad. Those who have done well, or the

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Speaker 2: phrase he used with those with the broadest shoulders must

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Speaker 2: shoulder the biggest burden. So what does that tell you?

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Speaker 2: They're going after the big cats. They're going after the whales,

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Speaker 2: and they are going after tax increases. And this is

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Speaker 2: not a surprise. This is something that was accusations that

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Speaker 2: were leveled by Rishi Senac etc. Before the election. We

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Speaker 2: can't get to Gavin Gray unfortunately, but mark our words

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Speaker 2: that budget will include tax increases and especially they also

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Speaker 2: mentioned the non doms, which is the likes of Rishi

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Speaker 2: Sunak's wife who were born outside of the UK and

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Speaker 2: managed to keep some of their income outside of the

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Speaker 2: UK not taxed within UK territory. They are only taxed

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Speaker 2: on the income that they earn there. You can expect

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Speaker 2: moves around that too. Just gone eleven away from six Bridge.

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Speaker 2: A landmark decision has been handed down in the War

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Speaker 2: against Gangs. Judge Peter Andrew has ruled that Headhunter's boss

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Speaker 2: Wayne Boyle must forfeit fifteen million dollars in assets. Police

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Speaker 2: argued that Doyle's assets were a direct result of criminal

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Speaker 2: activity and he was in fact the gang's president, not

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Speaker 2: just your average Joe blogs member. Police Association President Chris

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Speaker 2: Carr hills with me now, Chris, good morning.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a long time to get fifteen million dollars

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Speaker 2: ten years through the courts.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it's been a very long process, a lot of

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Speaker 12: very hard work, but this is something police have looked

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Speaker 12: at for many, many years, and it took a change

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Speaker 12: in legislation to sort of enable police to be able

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Speaker 12: to get to where they've got. But it's a massive result.

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Speaker 12: I mean, normally when police sees assets are linked to

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Speaker 12: a specific offending, some drug and porte, you know, something

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Speaker 12: like that. But this is looking at long term leadership

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Speaker 12: of a gang who is established just to commit a

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Speaker 12: legal actions and make money, and he's lost homes, he's

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Speaker 12: lost the clubrooms. It's a magnificent result for police but

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Speaker 12: sends a very clear message to gangs that their money

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Speaker 12: isn't going.

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Speaker 2: To be safe. But is it? Does something else need

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Speaker 2: to change so that doesn't take ten years next time,

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Speaker 2: or of the changes that have already been made. Will

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Speaker 2: that speed it up? Hopefully?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Look, this certainly needs to speed up. And I think

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Speaker 12: there's some lot of lessons to be learned out of

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Speaker 12: this sort of prosecution. And you know it'll be appealed,

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Speaker 12: we know that. But in some ways that may be

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Speaker 12: a good thing because it'll set the higher courts, will

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Speaker 12: set the rules going forward as well, which I think

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Speaker 12: will be very helpful. The judge has taken a long

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Speaker 12: time to make a very considered opinion, so I think

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Speaker 12: it'll stand up in the higher court.

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Speaker 2: Ten months, he took ten months to deliberate. Do you

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Speaker 2: how hard is it to prove who's in charge of

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Speaker 2: a gang? I mean, is it not kind of obvious?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Well, well I think with Doyle it was very obvious.

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Speaker 12: Everyone knew he was the chief. Now that was his name,

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Speaker 12: and he was the boss of that gang. But you know,

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Speaker 12: you've got to prove that to a standard of proof

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Speaker 12: beyond well, in fact, in the court it's on the

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Speaker 12: balance probabilities. So he was a very good example of

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Speaker 12: this and it will be a lot harder for some games.

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Speaker 12: But in saying that, you know, there's ways that police

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Speaker 12: can do this now and this it's a really good

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Speaker 12: example going forward. And what I like is it's not

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Speaker 12: just assets that he's accumulated, you know in recent times.

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Speaker 12: These are assets he's owned for decades and so it's

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Speaker 12: a big landmark ruling for police and it's one that

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Speaker 12: will have some real implications going forward.

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Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for that. Chris can't help Police Association

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Speaker 2: prison and I wonder when we'll see that house on

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Speaker 2: trade me ninety six brain Bridge, right, very quickly, I've

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Speaker 2: got number for you here, sixty seven percent. So the

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Speaker 2: number of people who are using debit cards, credit cards,

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Speaker 2: f postcards to pay for things has actually gone down.

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Speaker 2: It's sixty seven percent, down from seventy seven percent and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Why people are using digital wallets. This

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Speaker 2: is your Apple Pay and your iPhone pay or whatever

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Speaker 2: it is, that's gone from ten to fifteen percent in

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Speaker 2: terms of how you pay for stuff. I do it personally.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I worry that I will lose

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Speaker 2: my phone and I will lose my wallet all in one.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I sort of hedge my

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Speaker 2: bets by keeping them separated. But anyway, that is a

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Speaker 2: big change that's happening, down to sixty seven percent on

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Speaker 2: your old f postcard.

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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four on Early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: Furniture Beds and a play at store News Talk zid be.

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Speaker 2: Well, look out, the airlines are getting simioned. That's happened

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Speaker 2: to the electricity. It's happened to n ZTA getting summons

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Speaker 2: by Simeon and they've been told sort out your on

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Speaker 2: time performance. You know how in New Zealand all the

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Speaker 2: alone say, oh when on time ninety five or I

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Speaker 2: don't know ninety eight percent of the time. Really are

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Speaker 2: you actually on time? And is that time the original

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Speaker 2: time for the flight or the one that you changed

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Speaker 2: it to While we were on the way to the airport.

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Speaker 2: Mike's in the studio, is here next? Good morning, Mike morning.

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Speaker 2: Simon's with us.

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Speaker 13: So several things that one's the CIA, which is the authority,

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Speaker 13: and they've had cultural problems if you follow these sort

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Speaker 13: of things. But they put a new board and so

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Speaker 13: they're going to make them and the fees they charge,

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Speaker 13: So there's that part of it. There's the pricing of

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Speaker 13: the year tickets. That's another part of it. And the

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Speaker 13: problem is nothing's going to happen. And there's also, as

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Speaker 13: you say, the reportage of what was on time and

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Speaker 13: what wasn't. Everyone's got an anecdotal story of a plane

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Speaker 13: that didn't take off or arrive on time and your

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Speaker 13: auntie who was a bit late and then the plane

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Speaker 13: turned around because of engineering issues.

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Speaker 2: I know there's Auntie. But what about those business leaders

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Speaker 2: who do travel every day for meetings who say, I

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Speaker 2: literally don't fly anymore.

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Speaker 13: Because there's there's no question. And I guess we all

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Speaker 13: know them, people who travel a lot who say, look,

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Speaker 13: I can't tell you that last time. You know it

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Speaker 13: doesn't I get it. Here's the important point, though, So

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Speaker 13: when they publish all of these details around pricing, First

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Speaker 13: of all, you always think the price is too high.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't matter what they say about the price. That

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Speaker 13: doesn't look you can get bargains if you do this.

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Speaker 13: There the next thing, Oh no, I paid nine thousand

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Speaker 13: dollars to fly to in Picagoo. You're never going to

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Speaker 13: convince people. The important point here is nothing's going to change.

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Speaker 13: So the theory is that by publishing this, we all

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Speaker 13: get shock, horror, put pressure on the airlines, and they

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Speaker 13: then go, we'll tidy up our act because there's.

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Speaker 2: No plan, so there's no hope.

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Speaker 13: There's well, well, I mean the sense that they're not

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Speaker 13: doing anything. They're not going to do.

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Speaker 2: Anything about it. But the answer to all of this

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Speaker 2: is just get richer, isn't it, Because you're never going

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Speaker 2: to get things.

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