1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. 3 00:00:13,427 --> 00:00:16,027 Speaker 2: And has many fans now more than a touch nervous 4 00:00:16,027 --> 00:00:18,667 Speaker 2: about the upcoming Bletterslow Cup tests both at Eden Park 5 00:00:19,067 --> 00:00:22,027 Speaker 2: and a cross in Perth. Could the vice like grip 6 00:00:22,467 --> 00:00:24,387 Speaker 2: the All Blacks have had on the Bledisloe Cup, which 7 00:00:24,387 --> 00:00:28,067 Speaker 2: stretches back well over two decades, be about to loosen? 8 00:00:28,427 --> 00:00:30,707 Speaker 2: Massive pleasure to welcome into the show the voice of 9 00:00:30,787 --> 00:00:34,347 Speaker 2: the Wallabies on stand Sport and Channel nine, Sean Maloney. 10 00:00:35,067 --> 00:00:38,107 Speaker 3: The noises come up a few decibels at Elie Pye O'Connor. 11 00:00:38,307 --> 00:00:42,507 Speaker 3: Why to talking? Said he has fross? Have I tring 12 00:00:42,507 --> 00:00:47,347 Speaker 3: to do with mats talking? Said rical maas does it again? 13 00:00:49,347 --> 00:00:50,987 Speaker 2: Is this really happening? 14 00:00:51,627 --> 00:00:55,507 Speaker 3: Talkison's got a cover trail Talks is here, Sazen? How 15 00:00:55,627 --> 00:00:58,907 Speaker 3: word is there? Tom Wright's going the other way, Tom right, 16 00:00:59,347 --> 00:01:03,267 Speaker 3: Tom rights down the edge, Tod right back in. Tell me, 17 00:01:03,467 --> 00:01:06,147 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, this is just true. 18 00:01:06,347 --> 00:01:12,867 Speaker 2: God busys ectasy of the absolute delight for Sean Maloney 19 00:01:12,907 --> 00:01:15,507 Speaker 2: who joins us now our congratulations, my first of all 20 00:01:15,547 --> 00:01:19,747 Speaker 2: on your passionate and precise calls on Wallaby's matches which 21 00:01:19,787 --> 00:01:23,467 Speaker 2: we're very much enjoyed over here. What was your reaction 22 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:27,107 Speaker 2: to the All Blacks record loss though to South Africa 23 00:01:27,227 --> 00:01:27,867 Speaker 2: last weekend? 24 00:01:28,867 --> 00:01:33,187 Speaker 3: Absolute shock, Absolute shock, So Matte, I'd done that afternoon 25 00:01:33,187 --> 00:01:35,747 Speaker 3: game at the Sfswall of These Argentina, and then I 26 00:01:35,747 --> 00:01:39,507 Speaker 3: actually had to bounce off to a charity night, so 27 00:01:39,627 --> 00:01:42,667 Speaker 3: I checked out at ten to seven half time, and 28 00:01:42,747 --> 00:01:45,147 Speaker 3: at the beginning I had to host the night, so 29 00:01:45,427 --> 00:01:50,107 Speaker 3: I didn't get that full time score until much much 30 00:01:50,387 --> 00:01:55,307 Speaker 3: later than full time, and I was lord by the result. 31 00:01:55,307 --> 00:01:57,787 Speaker 3: I couldn't I couldn't work out what had happened, got home, 32 00:01:57,867 --> 00:02:01,507 Speaker 3: watched the highlights on Stan and still still now I 33 00:02:01,547 --> 00:02:04,747 Speaker 3: can't believe that's what transpired in that second half. 34 00:02:04,827 --> 00:02:08,307 Speaker 2: Wild all Blacks now vulnerable. 35 00:02:09,307 --> 00:02:14,627 Speaker 3: No, we had no. We had Sunnyville on our show 36 00:02:15,587 --> 00:02:19,107 Speaker 3: on between two Posts on stand, which I think Sky 37 00:02:19,347 --> 00:02:23,707 Speaker 3: and Zed takes as well. Yep on Monday, and he 38 00:02:24,107 --> 00:02:27,427 Speaker 3: rightly highlighted that if he was a part of an 39 00:02:27,427 --> 00:02:29,747 Speaker 3: All accentdate lost the game, that they weren't supposed to lose, 40 00:02:29,867 --> 00:02:32,827 Speaker 3: or if they got touched up, that it was the 41 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:38,187 Speaker 3: next game was just like. The response was brutal, and 42 00:02:38,227 --> 00:02:41,787 Speaker 3: I'm expecting the same again at Eden Park next week. 43 00:02:42,027 --> 00:02:44,947 Speaker 3: So vulnerable. No, I think they're going to come out 44 00:02:45,307 --> 00:02:49,947 Speaker 3: spitting fire, and I'm I'm not thankful in many ways 45 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:52,187 Speaker 3: for what Africa did last week. 46 00:02:52,987 --> 00:02:55,427 Speaker 2: They did, though, have a very very obvious game plan. 47 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:58,347 Speaker 2: They didn't against the All Blacks, which featured a significant 48 00:02:58,387 --> 00:03:01,147 Speaker 2: aerial assault. That's not something which is deep in the 49 00:03:01,187 --> 00:03:03,987 Speaker 2: DNA of Australian rugby sides. But do you expect that 50 00:03:04,067 --> 00:03:06,947 Speaker 2: they will take notice of what's south are it did 51 00:03:07,387 --> 00:03:10,147 Speaker 2: and take parts of that into their game for these 52 00:03:10,187 --> 00:03:11,147 Speaker 2: next two test matches? 53 00:03:11,547 --> 00:03:14,787 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, that's a good question, mate. I'm going to 54 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:17,787 Speaker 3: probably go no. And you know, while say no, because 55 00:03:17,827 --> 00:03:21,067 Speaker 3: we tried that on Argentina and it didn't work out. 56 00:03:21,187 --> 00:03:24,707 Speaker 3: It didn't work out at all, throwing those contestables up 57 00:03:24,747 --> 00:03:29,547 Speaker 3: and giving Georgo a chance to push through even s 58 00:03:29,827 --> 00:03:33,787 Speaker 3: Ali and Corey Tour and I just I reckon the 59 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:36,427 Speaker 3: bounce of ball and those contestibles in that game against 60 00:03:36,467 --> 00:03:39,547 Speaker 3: lost Premiers would have gone maybe ninety ten in favor 61 00:03:39,587 --> 00:03:43,107 Speaker 3: of them. So I can't see I can't see that 62 00:03:43,147 --> 00:03:45,747 Speaker 3: happening again. I don't reckon it will. So it'll mean 63 00:03:45,747 --> 00:03:48,707 Speaker 3: that they'll have to come up with more creative ways 64 00:03:49,067 --> 00:03:52,867 Speaker 3: to try and puncture that all blacks defense. I'll tell 65 00:03:52,867 --> 00:03:55,547 Speaker 3: you what. It shakes up as a great couple of weeks, 66 00:03:55,587 --> 00:03:58,147 Speaker 3: doesn't it. I mean, sure, we've had a couple of 67 00:03:58,147 --> 00:04:02,627 Speaker 3: stumbles both out sides over these last four rounds, but man, 68 00:04:02,627 --> 00:04:04,667 Speaker 3: no man, when both these teams are clicked, it has 69 00:04:04,707 --> 00:04:06,987 Speaker 3: been so good to watch aslutely. 70 00:04:06,987 --> 00:04:08,947 Speaker 2: Oh look absolutely, we can't wait for the series. And 71 00:04:08,947 --> 00:04:11,307 Speaker 2: I think every game in the Rugby Championship has been 72 00:04:11,387 --> 00:04:13,827 Speaker 2: like that. I mean, who picked it? After four games 73 00:04:13,907 --> 00:04:16,387 Speaker 2: each everybody would have two wins and two losses. It just, 74 00:04:16,427 --> 00:04:19,187 Speaker 2: you know, just wasn't on the radar as far as 75 00:04:19,187 --> 00:04:21,747 Speaker 2: the Wallabies are concerned. Sean the win over Fiji to 76 00:04:21,747 --> 00:04:23,627 Speaker 2: start things off, then the British and Irish lines too 77 00:04:23,707 --> 00:04:27,267 Speaker 2: of course, then the shared tests in South Africa, that 78 00:04:27,307 --> 00:04:29,547 Speaker 2: sheared tests against Argentina. It's been a busy old year 79 00:04:29,547 --> 00:04:31,427 Speaker 2: for the Wallabies. What have you made of them in 80 00:04:31,467 --> 00:04:33,987 Speaker 2: general terms across twenty twenty five. 81 00:04:34,427 --> 00:04:40,507 Speaker 3: Well, they are so much improved of so I've come 82 00:04:40,627 --> 00:04:44,787 Speaker 3: so far in such a short time under Joe Schmidt. 83 00:04:44,827 --> 00:04:48,387 Speaker 3: I mean, mate, last we're saying this the other week, 84 00:04:48,427 --> 00:04:50,227 Speaker 3: like you know, if we go back sort of four 85 00:04:50,267 --> 00:04:53,427 Speaker 3: day months we were struggling to put away Georgia in 86 00:04:53,507 --> 00:04:56,947 Speaker 3: Sydney and we were we had our issues with Wales 87 00:04:57,427 --> 00:05:00,587 Speaker 3: for chunks of that series too, So they've just come 88 00:05:00,867 --> 00:05:03,267 Speaker 3: so far in such a short period of time. That 89 00:05:03,427 --> 00:05:08,307 Speaker 3: trajectory off the back of Fiji was was great and 90 00:05:08,347 --> 00:05:10,787 Speaker 3: then obviously we had that little slip in the first 91 00:05:10,787 --> 00:05:13,227 Speaker 3: against the Test against the lines. But you know, if 92 00:05:13,267 --> 00:05:16,667 Speaker 3: you look at all the other minutes of good stuff 93 00:05:16,667 --> 00:05:20,827 Speaker 3: they put together across those games, it's excellent. So they're 94 00:05:21,067 --> 00:05:24,067 Speaker 3: going in the right direction. They're well led, they're well coached, 95 00:05:24,267 --> 00:05:30,987 Speaker 3: and finally, mate, finally we're getting people in gold jerseys 96 00:05:30,987 --> 00:05:34,867 Speaker 3: to games. We've got people in hats and scarfs and 97 00:05:34,947 --> 00:05:37,667 Speaker 3: anything else got they can get on. And it has 98 00:05:37,787 --> 00:05:41,707 Speaker 3: been I reckon, it's been probably we're going back maybe 99 00:05:41,747 --> 00:05:43,627 Speaker 3: twenty years. I must come back to the last time 100 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:47,267 Speaker 3: we hostedly woke up to a game light last weekend 101 00:05:47,387 --> 00:05:52,107 Speaker 3: where the crowd was drenched in Wallaby gold. It was 102 00:05:52,187 --> 00:05:53,627 Speaker 3: so good to watch love that. 103 00:05:53,827 --> 00:05:59,467 Speaker 2: Love that Ellis Park. I mean inexplicable scenes there at 104 00:05:59,507 --> 00:06:01,787 Speaker 2: Ellice Park. You know, twenty two nil down and then 105 00:06:02,227 --> 00:06:04,547 Speaker 2: thirty eight unannced points to win it. Where does that 106 00:06:04,827 --> 00:06:09,307 Speaker 2: win sit among the great Australian performances you've seen in 107 00:06:09,347 --> 00:06:10,027 Speaker 2: recent times? 108 00:06:10,507 --> 00:06:14,227 Speaker 3: Oh? Easily the best in recent times. I mean I've 109 00:06:14,227 --> 00:06:17,107 Speaker 3: got that top five all time. And many of my 110 00:06:17,147 --> 00:06:20,667 Speaker 3: colleagues who like Timmy Horn had said to me, he's 111 00:06:20,867 --> 00:06:23,267 Speaker 3: the top five all time, and that Blokes won two 112 00:06:23,307 --> 00:06:25,987 Speaker 3: World Cups and he's a World Raby Hall of Famer. 113 00:06:26,027 --> 00:06:29,467 Speaker 3: Burkeie was the same. Mauves is obviously more recent cut 114 00:06:29,587 --> 00:06:32,627 Speaker 3: he's the same. So all of us have it as 115 00:06:32,667 --> 00:06:36,587 Speaker 3: a top five win in the history, that long history 116 00:06:37,067 --> 00:06:40,467 Speaker 3: of the Wallabies. So mate, we'll never forget it. I 117 00:06:40,547 --> 00:06:44,147 Speaker 3: still have people stopped him now in the most random 118 00:06:44,227 --> 00:06:47,707 Speaker 3: spots saying, OI, what about that gaming in South Africa? 119 00:06:47,827 --> 00:06:50,587 Speaker 3: I was up with you, I was up watching We're 120 00:06:50,627 --> 00:06:53,307 Speaker 3: all Up. I woke my neighbor up, I woke my 121 00:06:53,427 --> 00:06:57,187 Speaker 3: missus up, or I woke my husband up. Everyone still 122 00:06:57,227 --> 00:06:59,907 Speaker 3: wants to talk about that weeks and weeks later. 123 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:02,987 Speaker 2: Who have been the standout players on the wallabyes jersey 124 00:07:03,067 --> 00:07:03,947 Speaker 2: for you across the year? 125 00:07:04,707 --> 00:07:08,187 Speaker 3: Oh, there's been some good ones. Jasay's needs some really 126 00:07:08,187 --> 00:07:11,107 Speaker 3: good ones we have seen. Okay, we let's start with 127 00:07:11,107 --> 00:07:14,827 Speaker 3: the captain. So we're now, we're now, it's irrefutable that 128 00:07:14,827 --> 00:07:17,307 Speaker 3: Harry Wilson is that captain going forward. That's that's a 129 00:07:17,347 --> 00:07:22,827 Speaker 3: lot and that's important because he was not a lot 130 00:07:22,907 --> 00:07:26,667 Speaker 3: going into the Test series here. So Harry Wilson has 131 00:07:26,747 --> 00:07:29,467 Speaker 3: been big phrasement rights all the way. Nick Frost I reckon. 132 00:07:29,507 --> 00:07:31,747 Speaker 3: Nick Frost is probably one of the premier locks in 133 00:07:31,787 --> 00:07:35,947 Speaker 3: world rugby right now? Who else have we got there? 134 00:07:36,187 --> 00:07:40,667 Speaker 3: They've all, they've all been really good. Lenniki tau Top 135 00:07:40,907 --> 00:07:44,387 Speaker 3: one of the top centers in world rugby, and just 136 00:07:44,507 --> 00:07:48,067 Speaker 3: this Max Shuginson one of the top wingers in world rugby. 137 00:07:48,227 --> 00:07:50,987 Speaker 3: And I just can't wait to see how far we 138 00:07:51,027 --> 00:07:54,227 Speaker 3: can ride this suwer alite train as well made because 139 00:07:54,627 --> 00:07:57,387 Speaker 3: he is going more and more into the game of 140 00:07:57,467 --> 00:07:59,907 Speaker 3: rugby union and he could be special. 141 00:08:00,027 --> 00:08:03,227 Speaker 2: Yeah, how care far can we ride that train? Because man, 142 00:08:03,267 --> 00:08:05,107 Speaker 2: what a player he could be. What is he twenty 143 00:08:05,147 --> 00:08:06,027 Speaker 2: two years old? 144 00:08:06,467 --> 00:08:08,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's young. They're all young. Thatt's the other thing? 145 00:08:08,467 --> 00:08:14,267 Speaker 3: What Jorgoes only just turned twenty one. It's crazy. So mate, 146 00:08:14,347 --> 00:08:18,547 Speaker 3: let's rite as far as we can. He's looking more 147 00:08:18,587 --> 00:08:23,227 Speaker 3: and more dangerous with every touch. Commits plenty of defenders, 148 00:08:22,947 --> 00:08:26,427 Speaker 3: looks for work in defense when he's doing the tackling. 149 00:08:26,747 --> 00:08:30,987 Speaker 3: He's just quality, mane. He's just quality all the way through. 150 00:08:31,427 --> 00:08:33,427 Speaker 2: Now you all know these stats. The last time anyone 151 00:08:33,427 --> 00:08:35,867 Speaker 2: beat the All Blacks of Eden Park was nineteen ninety four. 152 00:08:36,227 --> 00:08:39,707 Speaker 2: The last time Australia did it was nineteen eighty six. Yeah, 153 00:08:39,747 --> 00:08:42,427 Speaker 2: what would it mean to break that record and put 154 00:08:42,467 --> 00:08:44,387 Speaker 2: a hand on the Bleeder Slow Cup next weekend? 155 00:08:44,947 --> 00:08:47,947 Speaker 3: It's funny you ask that. I've been trying to wrestle 156 00:08:47,987 --> 00:08:51,427 Speaker 3: with the idea of it being close or going close, 157 00:08:51,547 --> 00:08:56,587 Speaker 3: and it would mean plenty, But it won't mean I mean, 158 00:08:56,707 --> 00:09:01,267 Speaker 3: and I say this absolutely respectfully with the deepest respective 159 00:09:01,307 --> 00:09:04,947 Speaker 3: won't mean anything unless they can I mean, should they 160 00:09:04,987 --> 00:09:07,907 Speaker 3: fluke the wind over there? Because I'll be I mean, 161 00:09:07,907 --> 00:09:11,227 Speaker 3: I'll be massive. I've guys will be massive underdogs that game, 162 00:09:11,267 --> 00:09:13,987 Speaker 3: as you'd expect and as they should be. But if 163 00:09:13,987 --> 00:09:17,227 Speaker 3: they can somehow, I don't know, pull something out and 164 00:09:17,267 --> 00:09:19,867 Speaker 3: then we go to Perth with the Bloods on the line, 165 00:09:19,867 --> 00:09:23,147 Speaker 3: if they then come on stuck in Perth, it's it's 166 00:09:23,187 --> 00:09:27,547 Speaker 3: going to be a disaster. So it won't mean anyone 167 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:30,267 Speaker 3: he cares about is trying to get that damn trophy back. 168 00:09:30,387 --> 00:09:32,907 Speaker 3: So one win will be like, oh, that's great, but 169 00:09:33,347 --> 00:09:36,387 Speaker 3: unless they get it back, it won't mean. It won't 170 00:09:36,427 --> 00:09:37,987 Speaker 3: mean a whole lot, unfortunately. 171 00:09:38,307 --> 00:09:40,227 Speaker 2: Can I just finish with Josh Matt You alluded to 172 00:09:40,267 --> 00:09:43,027 Speaker 2: him before and the evolution that he's overseen in this 173 00:09:43,307 --> 00:09:47,147 Speaker 2: Wallaby side. Is there any chance he'll continue on in 174 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:49,947 Speaker 2: some way, shape or form when liz Kus takes over 175 00:09:49,987 --> 00:09:50,587 Speaker 2: full time. 176 00:09:51,147 --> 00:09:54,387 Speaker 3: I don't know what the transfer or the handoff looks like, 177 00:09:54,547 --> 00:09:58,507 Speaker 3: but I do know those who know each other particularly well, 178 00:09:58,707 --> 00:10:02,187 Speaker 3: and they're very similar in terms of the way that 179 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:07,507 Speaker 3: they can extract the best of their players and can 180 00:10:07,547 --> 00:10:13,987 Speaker 3: really I guess guide them to lofty heights. So they'll 181 00:10:13,987 --> 00:10:17,307 Speaker 3: be they'll let's try and do the calendar going forward, 182 00:10:17,587 --> 00:10:20,387 Speaker 3: so we'd be looking at yes, so let's won and 183 00:10:20,467 --> 00:10:24,507 Speaker 3: take over till July next year, so there'll be that 184 00:10:24,587 --> 00:10:27,907 Speaker 3: whole year where Joe will still be I believe in 185 00:10:27,987 --> 00:10:32,747 Speaker 3: the employee of Roby Australia handing all that info off. 186 00:10:32,867 --> 00:10:36,347 Speaker 3: So I don't know what looks like beyond that, mate, 187 00:10:36,347 --> 00:10:38,547 Speaker 3: but as long as he brings leeds up to speed 188 00:10:38,627 --> 00:10:40,947 Speaker 3: him already to go from July next year, then that 189 00:10:40,987 --> 00:10:41,987 Speaker 3: should be sweet. 190 00:10:41,707 --> 00:10:43,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the wild Couple be looming by that stage 191 00:10:43,747 --> 00:10:46,627 Speaker 2: and exciting. We can't wait to have you over here 192 00:10:46,667 --> 00:10:48,907 Speaker 2: next weekend for the Eden Park tire Shawan. Thanks for 193 00:10:48,947 --> 00:10:50,307 Speaker 2: joining us across New Zealand today. 194 00:10:50,307 --> 00:10:52,347 Speaker 3: Though legend see mate, see you mate. 195 00:10:52,387 --> 00:10:56,027 Speaker 2: That a Sean Maloney Voice of the Wallabies, the excitable 196 00:10:56,107 --> 00:10:57,907 Speaker 2: voice of the Wallabies. I thought he was trying to 197 00:10:57,947 --> 00:11:01,827 Speaker 2: play that down just ever so slightly there. I thought 198 00:11:01,827 --> 00:11:03,907 Speaker 2: he might be a bit more bullish, but then again, 199 00:11:03,987 --> 00:11:06,867 Speaker 2: I guess as he said. He quoted Sunny All There 200 00:11:07,307 --> 00:11:09,667 Speaker 2: from one of their shows over in Australia in the 201 00:11:09,747 --> 00:11:14,187 Speaker 2: last week. The response to an unexpected defeat or are 202 00:11:14,227 --> 00:11:16,907 Speaker 2: toweling up when you're in the All Blacks is brutal. 203 00:11:17,787 --> 00:11:20,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 204 00:11:21,067 --> 00:11:24,347 Speaker 1: to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow 205 00:11:24,387 --> 00:11:25,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.