1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Netbull drama not finished yet. CEO just went before Christmas. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Of course. Now we've got a board clean out, three 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: members as well as the chair. The chair is Matt Wenderray, 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: who's with us? 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Good morning morning mate? 6 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: Do you go willingly or have you been pushed? 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Oh? No, this is this is my decision as it 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: is with my fellow board members. Just reflected on the 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: period that we've had, the challenges that we've had, and 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: think that a change now will create some space for 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: some fresh press perspectives and new energy and momentum. And 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: I think also especially from a chair perspective, it's it's 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: really important from an incoming CEO perspective that they understand 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: who it is that they're going to be working with. 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: And that's why it's important for us to appoint a 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: new chair now. My tenure as a chair, the nine 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: years comes up right at the start of next year, 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: so so good time to do it now and enable 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: that new chair to be part of that process. 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Did you do it collectively as a group the three 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: others as well? Did somebody you know you get together 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: over a drink and go, how about we all bail 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: on this and this would be good for the sport 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: or did it come individually? 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: I think all the board members of have had their 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: own reflections. We have been talking about about our individual 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: positions and also understanding and acknowledging that there's there's an 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: expectation of some change in the leadership from from the 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: from the community, and it's come from those sort of 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: individual reflections that that we've reached this position from in 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: terms of the board change. 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: How did it come to what it came to in 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: your view? 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Ah, Look, I think everybody, everybody in these processes is 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: always trying to do the right thing by by by 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: the Sport, and we ended up in a position where 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: we ultimately were able to find a way forward. But 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: what well we did along the way is Look, I 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: think we can learn. We can certainly learn, and we 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: know that our communication could be better and at crucial 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: times in this in this process, you know you're trying 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: to balance the obligations that you have with the need 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: to keep people informed. I know that we could have 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: brought our stakeholders along more effectively, and I know that 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: we have some stakeholders who felt that they were unheard. 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: So so I think, you know, I think there's a 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: combination of a bunch of things. It's never one It's 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: never one thing with these types of situations, and I 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: think that's that's why we found ourselves in a particularly 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: challenging period through the back half the next year last year. 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Who regrets over Noline. 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah, Look, I think you know. I regret that. 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: I regret the hurt and that that's been failed in 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: the network community. I regret the time that we've spent 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: on this whole process, where we could have used all 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: of that effort and all of that energy and focusing forward. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: And that's really what we're trying to do now is 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: create some space, to create some some forward momentum. We've 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: got a big couple of years ahead of US Calm 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: Games obviously, and the Premiership going to start in April, 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: Netbral World Cup next year, and it's important to be 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: able to create a reset, an opportunity to focus on 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: all of that for everybody involved, including. 64 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Only was it, in your view, Matt, the individuals and 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: the way you guys handled the problem, or was it 66 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: the problem that's the problem. 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: I think I think everybody was working with the best 68 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: intentions in mind. I think in these things you're always 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: up against some time pressures which potentially limit the options 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: that you have. And so I think I think you know, 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: everybody was doing what they could and working with the 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: best interests of netball at heart, but we ended up 73 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: in that position given given the constraints around timing, and 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: I think that's that's that's been the that's been the challenge. 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Like I said, look, there's certainly stuff that we we 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: can learn from this process and will continue to reflect 77 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: on that, and this this is a represent reflection of 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: that of those reflections as well. 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: Have you got a view on sport generally? It seems 80 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: that sport admen in this country has hit some sort 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: of wall between the rugby and the cricket and the 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: net ball and probably some others as well. At the 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: administrative level, something's not right. Is that fair or not? 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: I think it's a tough I think it's a tough 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: gig sport administration. I think you think about you think 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: about the commercial environment that everybody's operating, and that is 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: a that is a really challenging place to be and 88 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: and you've got you're trying to balance the commercial environment 89 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: with managing the high performance environment. I think I think 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: it is it requires a particular set of skills, and 91 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, I think I think that's just that's really challenging, 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: and that's a reflection of that. You see it if 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: you see it across across the board that I can 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: really only speak the netball But yeah, yeah, it's a 95 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: it's a tough gig, all. 96 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Right, Matt, appreciate it. Matt Winerray out of will he's 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: out of Japan as it turns out to the early 98 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: hours of Japanese morning. While there's some massive pauses there, Mike, 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: how many train whistles. We don't do train whistles. We 100 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: do clown cars and trucks, but we can introduce the 101 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: train whistle. I'm not saying we're not open to blue 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: skyring this one, Mike. All four appointed Knitball and New 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: Zealand directors have resigned. All four elected directors remain. That 104 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: tells the story. Matt winter Ray and co. Clearly was pushed. 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: There has been one of the worst periods of Nitball, 106 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: if not the worst. 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 108 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.