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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 2: News Talks B twenty one to twelve. For message on

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Speaker 2: the text, Jack, where do I find that an amazing

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Speaker 2: interview with Sophie Pasco? I want to share it with

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Speaker 2: my mates easy news Talks dB dot co dot nz

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Speaker 2: Ford slash Jack. That should be up there very shortly.

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Speaker 2: So if you didn't hear our feature interview with Sophie

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Speaker 2: Pasco this morning, it was just one of those really

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Speaker 2: amazing I don't know kind of yeah. She was just

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Speaker 2: so open, you know, it's just see what It's just,

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Speaker 2: it is so nice to speak to, you know, athletes

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Speaker 2: who have lots of other things in their lives as well,

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Speaker 2: and you know, who are able to speak with the

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Speaker 2: kind of eloquence that she did this morning. So really

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Speaker 2: enjoyed that interview and that's the place to go if

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Speaker 2: you would like to hear it. Twenty to twelve. That

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Speaker 2: means it's time to catch up with Katherin Rain's our

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Speaker 2: book reviewer. She's got two reads for us this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Gal to Catherine Morning Jack. Okay, let's begin with The

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Speaker 2: Brier Club by Kate Quinn.

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Speaker 3: So this is set in the nineteen fifties in America.

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Speaker 3: Who is they are deep in the paranora of McCarthyism

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Speaker 3: and deep suspicion and this this laand lady missus Nelson,

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Speaker 3: and she's suspicious of everything. And there's the Korean War

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Speaker 3: going on in the background, and gangs and crops and

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Speaker 3: corruption and prejudice and judgment to name a few kind

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Speaker 3: of strong themes going through this book. And the story

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Speaker 3: actually begins in nineteen fifty four at a woman's boarding

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Speaker 3: house called the Briarwood House on Thanksgiving Day and a

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Speaker 3: brutal murder occurs, and one of the borders might be

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Speaker 3: the culprit, but the identity of the actual victim, no

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Speaker 3: one knows who it is, although they know it took

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Speaker 3: place in the room of a border named Grace March.

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Speaker 3: And then you jump back four years to nineteen fifty

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Speaker 3: and you follow thirteen year old Pete Nelson, who shoulders

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Speaker 3: only more responsibilities than he should at a young age

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Speaker 3: to help his mother out as a handyman at the

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Speaker 3: boarding house, and he takes care of his sister who

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Speaker 3: has a learning disorder, and so through his perspective you

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Speaker 3: get to meet all of the boarders. So Grace March herself,

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Speaker 3: who's this very mysterious widow, and she doesn't talk about

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Speaker 3: her past, but she's really good friends and manages to

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Speaker 3: create friends with the other borders. And there's a young mother, Fliss,

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Speaker 3: who's doctor husband works in San Diego, and Nora who's

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Speaker 3: twenty works for the National Archives, and many other characters

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Speaker 3: that are kind of engrossed in the story, and each

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Speaker 3: of them different backgrounds and dealing with their own demons

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Speaker 3: and secrets and regrets. And they gather in Graces at

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Speaker 3: a room for dinners every Thursday night, and this brings

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Speaker 3: a sense of friendship, even though there Landlady missus Nielsen

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Speaker 3: is not particularly pleasant. And each chapter alternates between the

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Speaker 3: residents backgrounds and their current lives, and chapters also told

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Speaker 3: from the perspective of the house, which adds the sort

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Speaker 3: of supernatural element to it, and they you know, and

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Speaker 3: you can tell some stories and secrets, and so that

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Speaker 3: element of the supernatural and caught up in these lives.

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Speaker 3: And it starts slowly that it builds in its intensity

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Speaker 3: in suspense and really interesting the way where it ends up.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, cool, Okay, So that's the Briar Club by

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Speaker 2: Kate Quinn. You've also read Girl Falling by Hailey Shrivener.

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Speaker 3: So this is a psychological thriller, and it's told in

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Speaker 3: alternating chapters, and they distinguish is either before or after,

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Speaker 3: and it's about the aftermath of Finn's girlfriend, mug To,

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Speaker 3: who falls to her death while hiking with Finn and

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Speaker 3: Finn's best friend, Daphne, And you go back in time

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Speaker 3: and Finn and Daphne are childhood friends and they share

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Speaker 3: this united by shared grief, and they find their paths

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Speaker 3: diverging as they enter their twenties and Finn's falling in

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Speaker 3: love with Magdo's, a newcomer to the group, and her

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Speaker 3: presence threatens Daphne's control over her best friend, and she

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Speaker 3: feels her grip on Finn's slipping out, and she begins

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Speaker 3: to act in these very destructive ways, and their relationship

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Speaker 3: spirals towards this tragic end where Magdoo loses her life

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Speaker 3: and the mystery in it lies and whether it's accident, suicide,

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Speaker 3: or something much more sinister. Yeah, and Finn's overwhelmed by

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Speaker 3: Daphne's influence and her great lengths to maintain control So

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Speaker 3: what you get is this murder, mystery, thriller, grief, toxic

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Speaker 3: female best friends and relationships and narratives about her. We

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Speaker 3: the stories told by Finn, and she's really unreliable in

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Speaker 3: the way she tells her story. So it keeps you

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Speaker 3: guessing right to the end. And those secrets and those

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Speaker 3: who keep them and how they shape friendships and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it keeps you on the edge of your seat and

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Speaker 3: the interrelationships between the three of them and how the

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Speaker 3: story unfolds from the very tragic events at the start.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, cool, that sounds really good, Thank you, Catherine.

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Speaker 2: So those books Girl Falling by Haley Skrevner and The

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Speaker 2: Brier Club by Kate Quinn, both of them will be

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Speaker 2: up on our website.

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