1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: As a Marsden Point become the star of the epic 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Fury Show. A channel infrastructure run it. Of course, newest 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: ideas they restore a bunch of tanks with fuel storage. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: They've got around three hundred million liters currently in use. 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: There's another three hundred and fifty million leters available for conversion. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Robie Canon is the chief executive and he's with us. 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Rob Morning, Good morning, Mike. You enjoying your time in 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: the Shane Jones Sun. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, Look, I think our role in all of this 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: is to keep our heads down as much as we 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: can and keep doing the job that we do, which 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: is to provide fuel resident seed for New Dyllan through 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: import terminal services, storage and distribution down our pipeline. 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: As a big picture idea, of the three hundred and 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: fifty million you got, is it worth converting anyway? 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? So those tanks, to be clear, we're all cleaned 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: out post conversion from a refinery to an import terminal 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: and they are all ex crude tanks, so they you 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: can't immediately put petrol or jet fuel in them. There 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: are tanks there that you can put digel into much 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: more quickly, which is one of the options that we've 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: been looking at. Our perspective is and actually I think 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: the government's own fuel security investigation found that the best 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: way to build domestic fuel resilience is through increased storage. 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: And obviously we've got a lot of capacity there we 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: can convert if needed. 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: And when you say you would you do it anyway 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: or do you need government help? 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: So to be clear, we've already been increasing our storage. 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: So since conversion to a terminal, we've added one hundred 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: million liters of new fuel storage and we've funded that 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: all ourselves. In terms of any further conversions of those tanks, 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: we would absolutely fund that ourselves. I think the key 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: issue is that we would need a customer for those 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: tanks at the end of it. So we're going to 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: spend the money and do the works to bring a 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: tank into service, we need somebody that wants to put 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: fuel in it. 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Is there somebody outside the government? 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think that that's the discussion that we want 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: to have, right and our perspective. Our role in the 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: supply chain is to provide the storage and do that 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: in a very resilient and safe way, and the fuel 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: companies are the ones that are own the fuel and 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: bring that into New Zealand. 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Well, timeframe on this, if you got the go ahead 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: right now, timeframes what. 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: We think there's a couple of tanks in particular that 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: have current certificates and are in pretty good condition that 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: could be brought into service in the next two or 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: three months. 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: All right, good on, appreciate your time, Rob you Cannon, 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: who's with cham My big question out of this whole thing, 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: We're not there yet, but we'll ask it eventually, is 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: do you think this is a tipping point moment in 56 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: which we will make some large, profound decisions, whether personally 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: or as a country, to become more self reliant and 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: less reliant on one governments and two international shipping channels, 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: or if this thing in shortly, will we simply go 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: back to being the way we were previously. 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: News Talks at b from six am weekdays, or follow 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.