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Speaker 2: This week on The Big League Podcast, Warriors hooker Sam

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Speaker 2: Healy opens up on the daunting challenge of do or

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Speaker 2: die Finals footy against the Penrith Panthers at Mount Smart,

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Speaker 2: debriefs the loss to Manly and how he's found his

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Speaker 2: first season in Auckland. Chris Reeve has sent off the

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Speaker 2: interchange for Michael Burgess to tackle the hot topic of

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Speaker 2: the NRL scheduling. But you're going to watch the Warriors

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Speaker 2: of the All Blacks. Stupid question. My name is Nathan Limb.

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Speaker 2: Let's go b LV. The NRL taking the pass, They've

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Speaker 2: got to be having a laugh, right. The Warriors have

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Speaker 2: a home finals fixture against the four time defending premieres,

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Speaker 2: the Penrith Panthers on Saturday night at Mount Smart. It's

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Speaker 2: a rare feat which should be relished and celebrated. However,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, there is another New Zealand sports

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Speaker 2: team which also dominates headlines and television screens in the

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Speaker 2: minds of the Kebi sporting public. You might have heard

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Speaker 2: of them, they're known as the All Blacks. The All

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Speaker 2: Blacks play the spring Box from five past seven on

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Speaker 2: Saturday evening. So if you're the NRL and you have

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand team playing at home, all you need

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Speaker 2: to do is schedule the game for literally any time

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Speaker 2: outside of seven to eight thirty on Saturday night. As

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Speaker 2: you've probably heard, the NRAL have hit the nail on

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Speaker 2: the head, or rather missed it completely and scheduled the

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Speaker 2: Warriors to play the Panthers at six point five pm

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Speaker 2: New Zealand time at Mount Smart on Saturday, meaning if

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Speaker 2: you want to watch the first half of the All Blacks,

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Speaker 2: you'll miss the second half of the Warriors. New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Herald Rider Chris Reeve literally any other slot would have worked.

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Speaker 2: To me, this is like having an empty car park

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Speaker 2: and still choosing to park in the disabled spot.

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Speaker 3: What a way to put it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like they're just set up to make

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Speaker 4: KIWI fans angry, right, Like, of all the times you

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Speaker 4: could have put this on, I mean, you've got plenty

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Speaker 4: of days to work with over the week, plenty to

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Speaker 5: What like?

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Speaker 4: I get that they like to do things in a

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Speaker 4: certain order, But why not change it for for it

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Speaker 4: benefits everyone, right, Like you're going to get more eyes

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Speaker 4: on the product if people aren't gonna have to choose

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Speaker 4: between the All Blacks and the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Is this a show that actually the numbers that New

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Speaker 2: are negligible and therefore we're not a big enough market

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Speaker 2: to actually make these decisions around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, quite possibly. It's very much tailored for the Australian market, right,

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Speaker 4: And I guess with the All Blacks being in Wellington,

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Speaker 4: they're still going to get the people show up here, right,

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Speaker 4: They're still going to get a sold out crowd at

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Speaker 4: tune in in Australia. Yes, that's probably what they are.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're worried about the Australian audience, right, they're not

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Speaker 2: so worried about us, and that I guess that's just

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Speaker 2: the reality they're making a financial decision. I still don't

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Speaker 2: understand why you wouldn't have the Raiders the minor premieres

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Speaker 2: on your Saturday night primetime slot and then let the

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Speaker 2: Warriors be on Sunday afternoon, Like, are they getting bullied

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Speaker 2: by Ricky Stewart? Is this what it is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Pretty?

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Speaker 2: You're wanting them to play on Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, potentially.

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Speaker 4: See the way I say it is these games that

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Speaker 4: actually have jeopardy to them, they should be the ones

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Speaker 4: something to look forward to, an elimination game, get it

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Speaker 2: I actually had a friend someone messaged me who said

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Speaker 2: that she had bought tickets to fly the Canberra to

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Speaker 2: watch what she presumed would be the raiatest playing on

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty poorly planned.

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Speaker 2: Well well you can see that the method of thinking

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Speaker 2: part of this, Chris Reeve is Cameron George. We understand now.

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Speaker 2: I put in a call to him this morning. He

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Speaker 2: didn't pick up, unfortunately, so we will get clarity on this.

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Speaker 2: But we understand that the Cameron George was in talks

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Speaker 2: it's come to North but they the Warriors have a specifically,

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Speaker 2: as we understand it, the Warriors are asked for this

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Speaker 2: and the NRL have effectively just said no.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I saw Michael Burgess's story on this over the

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Speaker 4: weekend basically said how you just summed it up. And

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Speaker 4: of course the Warriors will be aware of this. They

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Speaker 4: are going to want as many eyes on their product

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Speaker 4: as possible. And you know, for the New Zealand market,

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Speaker 4: if you're contending with an all backs game, you're losing

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Speaker 4: that fight every time.

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Speaker 3: Maybe okay, maybe if.

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Speaker 4: It was a Grand Final, Yeah, any other situation, you're

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Speaker 2: We're going to hear from Warriors hooker Sam Healey next,

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Speaker 2: but first, here are the highlights. As we look back

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Speaker 2: on the Seagules twenty seven Warriors twenty six final regular

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Speaker 2: season game.

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Speaker 5: Around twenty seven underway on Fox League.

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Speaker 2: How would bounce it?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Oh, Paul's tid. I don't believe this, You are

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Speaker 5: kidding me. With Cherry Evans, he hold it up nicely

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Speaker 5: for Peter Traverevitch, it's too easy still pitfering the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Line out of Tommy Hart says Simon yas over.

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Speaker 5: You ain't got a death Travoyvitch, Tommy Turmo. At that

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Speaker 5: time that was Dalen Matanny's alesia to me, he was

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Speaker 5: caught in no man's land.

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Speaker 2: Now it is chance again.

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Speaker 5: Telling Matanny's alesia Freshard Ros has gone through the front

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Speaker 5: door with the Warriors. He's hit in the backyard and

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Speaker 2: Guys, poor the boy cut as well.

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Speaker 5: They start through now only we'll have a crack.

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Speaker 2: Just roll over.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got this is Oh, he's gonna go

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Speaker 5: film do laugh, He's kid Martin the boid over the top.

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Speaker 5: Tell him what tennis last day out with the time

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Speaker 5: for the quarter, it's a full time siren sounds.

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Speaker 2: Audio courtesy of Fox Sports.

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Speaker 7: The Big League Podcast podcast.

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Speaker 2: Senior New Zealand Herald writer Michael Burr just got a

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Speaker 2: quick chat with Sam Healey after the game. Let's take

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Speaker 3: What did you think of the performance?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously not the way we wanted to perform. We

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Speaker 6: just we just beat ourselves in the end, and that's

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Speaker 6: just being ourselves are theirs and poor discipline.

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Speaker 8: So certainly made it hard when the pretty tough in

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, you're always against the back foot and trying

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Speaker 3: What did you think of the the attack tonight.

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Speaker 6: I think we're good in some instances and obviously things

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Speaker 8: And in terms of these these I guess lapses concentrational mistakes.

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Speaker 8: There has been talk about that the last few weeks.

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Speaker 8: But what do you what do you put.

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Speaker 3: That down to.

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Speaker 6: I'm not too sure, to be honest. I think it's

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Speaker 6: a question that, but there's just different lapses in time,

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Speaker 3: Now. I've got to ask you about this, James F.

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Speaker 8: Shaharis scoring after nine seconds absolutely remarkable.

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Speaker 3: What was your view of how they're unfolded.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I just I just started

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Speaker 3: I could.

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Speaker 6: I didn't actually know how to react, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: So it was pretty funny because you.

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Speaker 3: Were pretty close to the action, were you from memory? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I just saw the ball bounce back

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Speaker 6: and I don't know, we've all got a bit jumbling.

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Speaker 6: And then I've seen fish put it down and I

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Speaker 7: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: In all your years of playing footy I'm talking about

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Speaker 6: It's pretty funny. You wouldn't really, you wouldn't think that's gonna.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. And for you, how did you feel about

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Speaker 8: You certainly look really live a dummy half some some

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I felt pretty good. I thought I did some

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Speaker 3: Just to look ahead.

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Speaker 8: How do you feel about what's coming next week? Will

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Speaker 8: you be be facing four time premiers in an elimination

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Speaker 6: We're really optimistic. We just spoke before and we're looking

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Speaker 6: tonight obviously, while it's a disappointing performance, we beat ourselves

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Speaker 6: and if we don't beat ourselves, we know we can

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Speaker 6: go with anyone. We've done it in the past and

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Speaker 6: done it this year, So we're really optimistic about about

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Speaker 6: next week. We're just going to bump it down at

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Speaker 8: Is it a bit intimidating to be facing a team

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Speaker 3: In the first week of the finals.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. I think you've got to

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Speaker 3: So yeah, And.

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Speaker 8: If I can just actually saying about your year, I mean,

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Speaker 8: we spoke to you early on, and I spoke to

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Speaker 8: about about your season, because you know, from watching on

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Speaker 3: And no, I'm loving it. And what are you most

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Speaker 8: And how do you know when to run, Sam, because

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Speaker 3: Is it pretty cool when you get recognized on the street.

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Speaker 7: This is the Big League podcast. This is going yeah,

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Speaker 2: Great to hear from Sam Healey there. He echoed I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, myself included. You look at come on, really, I

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Speaker 2: First of all, Coach Andrew reaps the Seeds after the

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Speaker 9: I can't throwing punches all the way through. But they

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Speaker 2: Right, manly win due to that effectively that daily cheer

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Speaker 2: Even's field goal, And you've got to think back to

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, And like you said that, that kick was

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Speaker 4: The bounce of the rugby league football is it can

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Speaker 2: There is some some sort of comic element to that. However,

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Speaker 2: But tonight it just sent us down the path we

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Speaker 2: eage and this wouldn't have helped.

439
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's been too much disruption to try

440
00:20:34,653 --> 00:20:38,013
Speaker 4: and do too much different if you don't have to,

441
00:20:38,373 --> 00:20:40,853
Speaker 4: if you had the luxury of I guess, a fully

442
00:20:40,893 --> 00:20:43,933
Speaker 4: healthy team for an extended period of time, then maybe

443
00:20:43,933 --> 00:20:47,373
Speaker 4: they could have tried something like that. But I overheard

444
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Speaker 4: someone talking about this the other day that Delan Watson

445
00:20:50,493 --> 00:20:52,933
Speaker 4: isil isne It can be both the best and worst

446
00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:56,013
Speaker 4: player on the field at the same time. He gives

447
00:20:56,093 --> 00:20:58,573
Speaker 4: you so much on attack, the way he finishes in

448
00:20:58,613 --> 00:21:01,773
Speaker 4: the corner. I mean, you lose a lot by not

449
00:21:01,813 --> 00:21:06,533
Speaker 4: having him there. But defensively he's a liability at times.

450
00:21:06,573 --> 00:21:10,053
Speaker 4: And like you said on commentary, they even said I

451
00:21:10,093 --> 00:21:13,013
Speaker 4: think it was the second try that they leaped in

452
00:21:13,093 --> 00:21:15,613
Speaker 4: on that side of the field. They're like, Dullan, what's

453
00:21:15,613 --> 00:21:17,973
Speaker 4: in his a Lesnik, what are you doing? And that

454
00:21:18,133 --> 00:21:19,733
Speaker 4: was kind of your response as well when we were

455
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Speaker 4: watching it.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's just same old's story, I guess is

457
00:21:24,493 --> 00:21:26,133
Speaker 2: the issue. And you know, we had Dyllan on the

458
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Speaker 2: podcast the first or second episode this year, I think,

459
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Speaker 2: and I talked to him in studio. Great, awesome blow.

460
00:21:31,573 --> 00:21:34,413
Speaker 2: He's fantastic to talk to. He was really honest, and

461
00:21:34,453 --> 00:21:37,413
Speaker 2: I guess from a media perspective, we really appreciate people

462
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Speaker 2: being honest and talking about things that they're working on.

463
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Speaker 2: And he spoke about this, you know, he spoke about

464
00:21:42,013 --> 00:21:44,573
Speaker 2: that sort of defensive positioning being something that he was

465
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Speaker 2: working on. And obviously it's still is sort of in

466
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Speaker 2: the work on Camp and I understand that it's frustrating

467
00:21:50,293 --> 00:21:52,293
Speaker 2: for fans. It is frustrating to watch it. I'm sure

468
00:21:52,333 --> 00:21:56,173
Speaker 2: Down is frustrated by it as well. Just lastly, on

469
00:21:56,213 --> 00:21:59,733
Speaker 2: the game, what do you make of jas Devanger pulling

470
00:21:59,733 --> 00:22:01,973
Speaker 2: the finger at Roger two? I vasas because he went on.

471
00:22:02,253 --> 00:22:03,773
Speaker 3: I loved it.

472
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love a bit of Nigel in any sport

473
00:22:06,973 --> 00:22:09,413
Speaker 4: really just just a little bit and niggle here in there,

474
00:22:09,533 --> 00:22:11,693
Speaker 4: never goes a miss And what a way to sign

475
00:22:11,693 --> 00:22:14,053
Speaker 4: off your NRUR career right, just walk off the field

476
00:22:14,373 --> 00:22:15,333
Speaker 4: pulling a finger.

477
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Speaker 2: To a mate and I just I just love it,

478
00:22:17,573 --> 00:22:19,413
Speaker 2: Like I was trying to. I was talking to Chance

479
00:22:19,453 --> 00:22:21,613
Speaker 2: to could cook start at the airport in the media

480
00:22:21,653 --> 00:22:25,533
Speaker 2: conference last week obviously before before the game, and I

481
00:22:25,573 --> 00:22:28,573
Speaker 2: asked him, sort of, you know, do you lean into

482
00:22:28,733 --> 00:22:33,053
Speaker 2: playing the villain this week daily Cherry Evans's last game

483
00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:35,933
Speaker 2: at brook Vale? Do you lean into trying to ruin it?

484
00:22:36,013 --> 00:22:38,293
Speaker 2: Do you lean into someone rushing out of the line

485
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Speaker 2: and try to put a head on him, you know

486
00:22:39,973 --> 00:22:42,293
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. And he's too nice of a guy. Chance,

487
00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:44,773
Speaker 2: he wouldn't be drawn into my my bait to try

488
00:22:44,813 --> 00:22:47,933
Speaker 2: and get some biff going. He's too good of a bloke.

489
00:22:48,173 --> 00:22:49,853
Speaker 2: And he said, no, of course not. We wanted to

490
00:22:49,893 --> 00:22:51,773
Speaker 2: have a good game, but obviously we want the win.

491
00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:54,693
Speaker 2: And the sad nature of Sporters that that would mean

492
00:22:54,733 --> 00:22:57,573
Speaker 2: he loses his last game. But just lean into it.

493
00:22:57,653 --> 00:22:59,533
Speaker 2: Someone give the finger back to Jenstavanger.

494
00:22:59,693 --> 00:23:01,613
Speaker 4: I would love to know what Roger said as he

495
00:23:01,733 --> 00:23:04,933
Speaker 4: was walking past to get Actually it.

496
00:23:04,893 --> 00:23:10,653
Speaker 2: Was undoubtedly a great game, mate, James would have pulled

497
00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:12,693
Speaker 2: the finger a gallisor and he's two up for the

498
00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:16,973
Speaker 2: fight and I love a big past. The Panthers are

499
00:23:17,093 --> 00:23:21,733
Speaker 2: four time defending premieres. They finished the regular season seventh

500
00:23:21,853 --> 00:23:25,413
Speaker 2: on the ladder, with thirteen wins, a draw and ten losses.

501
00:23:25,613 --> 00:23:30,213
Speaker 2: They're coming off a forty to twenty hiding of the Dragons,

502
00:23:30,253 --> 00:23:32,373
Speaker 2: but they lost three in a row before that. Let's

503
00:23:32,373 --> 00:23:34,693
Speaker 2: not forget that they lost three in a row before

504
00:23:34,733 --> 00:23:37,813
Speaker 2: that last game. How much do we read into these results,

505
00:23:37,893 --> 00:23:41,933
Speaker 2: Chris Reeve, given that the Bulldogs game two eas ago,

506
00:23:41,973 --> 00:23:43,453
Speaker 2: they put out a B side.

507
00:23:44,053 --> 00:23:46,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, good question. Remember when they lost five in a

508
00:23:46,293 --> 00:23:48,813
Speaker 4: row to start the season and people were riding them off.

509
00:23:48,973 --> 00:23:50,093
Speaker 4: Seems like a long time ago.

510
00:23:50,173 --> 00:23:51,973
Speaker 2: Now, it seems like a very long time ago.

511
00:23:52,493 --> 00:23:55,573
Speaker 4: I do, Yes, yeah, they so they do have losses

512
00:23:55,613 --> 00:23:58,853
Speaker 4: in them. We've seen that even with the quality of

513
00:23:58,933 --> 00:24:02,853
Speaker 4: side they have, they've clearly lost something this year compared

514
00:24:02,853 --> 00:24:05,973
Speaker 4: to the last what three or four seasons. They are

515
00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:08,773
Speaker 4: still a very good side. They're still a very good side,

516
00:24:08,813 --> 00:24:11,933
Speaker 4: and finals football, the good sides do tend to show

517
00:24:12,013 --> 00:24:14,493
Speaker 4: up and play at their best. So, I mean, I'm

518
00:24:14,533 --> 00:24:17,013
Speaker 4: not reading too much into the conflicting.

519
00:24:16,453 --> 00:24:19,933
Speaker 2: Yourself here, because earlier on the podcast you're saying, no,

520
00:24:20,013 --> 00:24:21,653
Speaker 2: I don't give them any chance. I don't give the

521
00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:22,613
Speaker 2: Warriors any chance.

522
00:24:22,653 --> 00:24:24,253
Speaker 4: I don't give the Warriors much of a chance.

523
00:24:24,413 --> 00:24:26,493
Speaker 2: You just said they have some losses in them of

524
00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:29,333
Speaker 2: course the Panthers. Yeah, but I don't think the Warriors

525
00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:29,893
Speaker 2: have no chance.

526
00:24:30,133 --> 00:24:32,613
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think the Panthers are going to lose

527
00:24:32,693 --> 00:24:34,293
Speaker 4: to the Warriors. I think they're a better team. I

528
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:37,773
Speaker 4: think they're a better finals team. I think they'll lose

529
00:24:38,053 --> 00:24:42,293
Speaker 4: potentially to like a Melbourne maybe or a Brisbane. But

530
00:24:42,413 --> 00:24:44,213
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think they've lost the Warriors.

531
00:24:44,493 --> 00:24:48,853
Speaker 2: Okay, well, sorry, Penrith Sport. The talents of you know

532
00:24:48,893 --> 00:24:51,373
Speaker 2: the deal. Nathan Cleary plays Talangi in the have still

533
00:24:51,373 --> 00:24:54,293
Speaker 2: on edwards fall back in the class of Moses Leota,

534
00:24:54,613 --> 00:24:58,533
Speaker 2: Scott Sorenson and Isaiah Yo in the forwards. Reeve work

535
00:24:58,613 --> 00:25:02,093
Speaker 2: with me here. If the Warriors are to clinch a

536
00:25:02,213 --> 00:25:05,733
Speaker 2: victory in what areas do they have to be clinical?

537
00:25:05,853 --> 00:25:07,933
Speaker 2: How do you expose this Panthers team.

538
00:25:08,333 --> 00:25:10,733
Speaker 4: I mean you have to shut down the playmakers and

539
00:25:10,773 --> 00:25:13,293
Speaker 4: that's not just the halves, but you have to shut

540
00:25:13,293 --> 00:25:16,293
Speaker 4: down Isaiaho as well. He's a very good ball playing

541
00:25:16,333 --> 00:25:20,453
Speaker 4: middle And you have to be clinical. You can't have

542
00:25:20,493 --> 00:25:24,533
Speaker 4: those defensive lapses. You can't be giving them extra possessions.

543
00:25:24,853 --> 00:25:26,853
Speaker 4: You have to get through your sets, pin them in

544
00:25:26,893 --> 00:25:29,493
Speaker 4: the corners and take your opportunities when they come.

545
00:25:30,413 --> 00:25:32,813
Speaker 2: Now, Wade Egan should be back for this contest. He

546
00:25:32,893 --> 00:25:35,213
Speaker 2: was rested from the last one Webster. When I asked

547
00:25:35,253 --> 00:25:37,653
Speaker 2: him about it, he said that it was one of

548
00:25:37,653 --> 00:25:41,173
Speaker 2: those ones, an issue with his hip. He believed that

549
00:25:41,213 --> 00:25:42,973
Speaker 2: if he gave Wade Egan the week off this week,

550
00:25:43,013 --> 00:25:45,453
Speaker 2: he would definitely be available this week. So he will

551
00:25:45,493 --> 00:25:48,253
Speaker 2: be playing, Thank goodness Wade Egan. Although Sam he leads

552
00:25:48,253 --> 00:25:51,773
Speaker 2: a fantastically well I thought at Hooker, if they sought

553
00:25:51,773 --> 00:25:54,133
Speaker 2: the concentration lapses, they are in the fight. If the

554
00:25:54,133 --> 00:25:57,133
Speaker 2: concentration lapes continue, I think they're going to get killed

555
00:25:57,173 --> 00:26:00,173
Speaker 2: because Penrith will be ruthless. However, a player who will

556
00:26:00,253 --> 00:26:04,093
Speaker 2: undoubtedly be up for this is Kipper James Fisher Harris,

557
00:26:04,533 --> 00:26:07,213
Speaker 2: who was asked in the press conference about the prospect

558
00:26:07,253 --> 00:26:10,093
Speaker 2: of facing his former so he said, the finals are

559
00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:11,253
Speaker 2: a whole new competition.

560
00:26:11,453 --> 00:26:14,573
Speaker 8: No one really respects us, no one gives us anything,

561
00:26:14,693 --> 00:26:17,453
Speaker 8: any hope or anything like that, and I actually loved it.

562
00:26:17,813 --> 00:26:21,733
Speaker 2: How good is that to hear Chris reeve they know

563
00:26:21,853 --> 00:26:25,453
Speaker 2: that nearly everyone's written them off and James saying he

564
00:26:25,573 --> 00:26:28,853
Speaker 2: likes it, he likes the challenge. They're embracing the underdog's tag.

565
00:26:29,253 --> 00:26:31,053
Speaker 2: And you know, we always talk about this is where

566
00:26:31,093 --> 00:26:32,813
Speaker 2: the Warriors thrive. They're walking towards this.

567
00:26:32,973 --> 00:26:36,653
Speaker 4: That's the right attitude, right, absolutely, absolutely, the Warriors love

568
00:26:36,733 --> 00:26:39,053
Speaker 4: being an underdog and they are at home. We can't

569
00:26:39,093 --> 00:26:41,813
Speaker 4: forget that. That has to count for something. A booming,

570
00:26:41,853 --> 00:26:45,413
Speaker 4: mount smart crowd, that'll definitely get them up for the challenge.

571
00:26:45,413 --> 00:26:48,893
Speaker 4: I mean, I was in Penrith year before last, I

572
00:26:48,893 --> 00:26:51,693
Speaker 4: think it was when they played the Panthers round one

573
00:26:51,693 --> 00:26:55,013
Speaker 4: of the playoffs and they just didn't show up. They

574
00:26:55,053 --> 00:26:57,853
Speaker 4: got beat him pretty soundly and it was a pretty disappointing,

575
00:26:58,373 --> 00:27:01,573
Speaker 4: pretty disappointing loss. This time around there at home, and

576
00:27:01,773 --> 00:27:03,493
Speaker 4: I mean, if they're going to get up, they're gonna

577
00:27:03,493 --> 00:27:03,973
Speaker 4: do it at Huh.

578
00:27:04,413 --> 00:27:06,253
Speaker 2: This is a fexture that should be relished, It should

579
00:27:06,253 --> 00:27:10,493
Speaker 2: be cherished, and it should be celebrated in correct Warriors fashion.

580
00:27:10,573 --> 00:27:17,013
Speaker 2: Which was a box of Cody.

581
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Speaker 7: The Big League podcast, The Bad Wagons Since Day one,

582
00:27:22,653 --> 00:27:25,893
Speaker 7: the Big League podcast for the biggest league fans.

583
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Speaker 2: Okay, really quick. Five predictions were into NRL Finals footy.

584
00:27:31,253 --> 00:27:36,053
Speaker 2: Can you believe it? We've got four bumper contests this weekend.

585
00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:39,293
Speaker 2: We're going to start off with the Storm and the

586
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:44,333
Speaker 2: Bronx and the Bulldogs pardon me in Melbourne. Storm have

587
00:27:44,453 --> 00:27:51,453
Speaker 2: been out of sorts man, Yeah, spy the Broncos, Yeah,

588
00:27:51,613 --> 00:27:54,173
Speaker 2: the last of the Roosters got kecked by the Roosters

589
00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:55,213
Speaker 2: the week before that.

590
00:27:55,693 --> 00:27:57,853
Speaker 4: Once they lost their own who Hughes last week, it

591
00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:01,653
Speaker 4: kind of just fell apart for them. So I hope

592
00:28:01,693 --> 00:28:03,693
Speaker 4: they turn it around. But yeah, I don't know. The

593
00:28:03,693 --> 00:28:04,693
Speaker 4: Bulldogs are good.

594
00:28:04,613 --> 00:28:07,733
Speaker 2: Well, Bulldogs. The Bulldogs coming off a twenty four to

595
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,733
Speaker 2: six lost the Sharks, So what's happened? These are two

596
00:28:10,773 --> 00:28:13,813
Speaker 2: teams that have been good throughout the season, and it

597
00:28:13,853 --> 00:28:16,173
Speaker 2: does feel like for the Storm the Wheels might have

598
00:28:16,253 --> 00:28:19,973
Speaker 2: come off right at the end, but then the Bulldogs.

599
00:28:20,293 --> 00:28:22,533
Speaker 2: You've got several teams go into these finals not off

600
00:28:22,533 --> 00:28:24,733
Speaker 2: the back of good results. Can I get your prediction,

601
00:28:24,893 --> 00:28:25,413
Speaker 2: Chris Reeve?

602
00:28:26,653 --> 00:28:30,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, Storm, Storm, Yeah, throw a Storm in there.

603
00:28:31,413 --> 00:28:33,773
Speaker 2: I'm going to go for the Bulldogs to pick off

604
00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:36,773
Speaker 2: the Storm, who do not have Jerome Hughes. I think

605
00:28:36,813 --> 00:28:42,013
Speaker 2: that is massive. Here we go, Warriors, Panthers, mount Smart Panthers.

606
00:28:42,853 --> 00:28:45,773
Speaker 2: You know, I'm picking the Warriors. Just because you're so

607
00:28:45,893 --> 00:28:48,173
Speaker 2: confident the Warriors are going to lose. And I want

608
00:28:48,173 --> 00:28:49,413
Speaker 2: to stick it to you, Chris Reeve.

609
00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:51,453
Speaker 4: So if this is at this point out there, not

610
00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:54,613
Speaker 4: long ago, you just said, if they don't play perfectly,

611
00:28:54,653 --> 00:28:55,933
Speaker 4: they're going to get killed.

612
00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:58,293
Speaker 2: And I think I think they will. I'm back in

613
00:28:58,373 --> 00:29:00,813
Speaker 2: they'll get killed. I think they'll. I think they'll they'll

614
00:29:00,813 --> 00:29:03,093
Speaker 2: tune up. Okay. I think Tanner Boyd is going to

615
00:29:03,173 --> 00:29:05,453
Speaker 2: kick all his kicks, and I think we're going to

616
00:29:05,493 --> 00:29:11,373
Speaker 2: see you apologizing to me later. I think it'll be competitive.

617
00:29:11,453 --> 00:29:13,213
Speaker 4: I think it'll be close, but I think the Banders

618
00:29:13,213 --> 00:29:13,573
Speaker 4: get up.

619
00:29:13,773 --> 00:29:16,613
Speaker 2: Are you watching the Warriors of the All Blacks? Double screening?

620
00:29:16,853 --> 00:29:22,093
Speaker 2: Double screening? Fantastic, that's the editor of Chris Reeve. Sharks, Roosters, Roosters.

621
00:29:22,733 --> 00:29:24,933
Speaker 2: I'm going to agree with you there. Sharks. Obviously with

622
00:29:24,973 --> 00:29:27,933
Speaker 2: a good win over the Bulldogs, the Roosters are in

623
00:29:27,973 --> 00:29:31,453
Speaker 2: some form. The Roosters coming off a thirty six and

624
00:29:31,733 --> 00:29:34,213
Speaker 2: a thirty six six hiding of the Bunnies and obviously

625
00:29:34,213 --> 00:29:36,773
Speaker 2: forty to ten over the storm the week before, so

626
00:29:36,933 --> 00:29:42,053
Speaker 2: Roosters to get it done at Shark Park. Raiders Broncos,

627
00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:45,573
Speaker 2: which for me is probably the most interesting of these

628
00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:48,533
Speaker 2: games on the Sunday afternoon when the Warriors could have

629
00:29:48,533 --> 00:29:50,853
Speaker 2: been playing What do you think, Reeve?

630
00:29:51,413 --> 00:29:54,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one's tough. I think I'm gonna go with

631
00:29:54,573 --> 00:29:58,213
Speaker 4: the Broncos just based on recent performances. They've been very good.

632
00:29:58,813 --> 00:30:01,373
Speaker 2: They've turned out that toilet water for Reese Walsh. He

633
00:30:01,413 --> 00:30:05,053
Speaker 2: should go back to that toilet because he played absolutely

634
00:30:05,613 --> 00:30:10,453
Speaker 2: superbly in their last win over the Storm engineered that

635
00:30:10,453 --> 00:30:13,053
Speaker 2: that victory pad one of his best games ever. I

636
00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:16,413
Speaker 2: think so the Broncos are firing right at the pointy

637
00:30:16,533 --> 00:30:18,253
Speaker 2: end of the season. And I'll point out Chris Reeve

638
00:30:18,333 --> 00:30:20,533
Speaker 2: in this very first episode of the podcast this year,

639
00:30:20,973 --> 00:30:23,693
Speaker 2: I picked the Broncos as my minor premiers and that

640
00:30:23,853 --> 00:30:28,133
Speaker 2: has not happened. But they are right in the fight here,

641
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:30,973
Speaker 2: so I will still take some I'll still take some

642
00:30:31,173 --> 00:30:32,013
Speaker 2: credit for that prediction.

643
00:30:32,093 --> 00:30:32,413
Speaker 3: I think.

644
00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:35,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're suck into the top four. You

645
00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:37,093
Speaker 4: got to tell you that. Okay, So I'm still like

646
00:30:37,093 --> 00:30:39,893
Speaker 4: like three off. Still close enough, We'll go with it. Hey,

647
00:30:39,893 --> 00:30:41,853
Speaker 4: thank you Chris ree for your time. You wisten your

648
00:30:41,853 --> 00:30:42,853
Speaker 4: insight this week.

649
00:30:43,213 --> 00:30:48,013
Speaker 2: You have a fantastic week Warriors versus the Panthers this

650
00:30:48,253 --> 00:30:51,173
Speaker 2: Saturday night n RL Finals for the app mound Smart

651
00:30:51,173 --> 00:30:52,933
Speaker 2: if you go into the game, have a safe night,

652
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