1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Barry Sober, senior political correspondence with US NOW. Barry, Hello, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: good afternoon, Heather. So I gave a pracee just before 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: of why you think Kamala Harris is going to win, 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: which is just you got the vibes. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: No, no, it's not. It's look if you can vote, 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: if you're a human being. And you look at two 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: people at the podium. One spends forty minutes winding up 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: music to dance like a board to and particularly YMCA, 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: which is a gay national anthem, and he thinks it's 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: the one of the best songs that he's ever heard 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: and pokes his fingers in the air. And this man 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: wants to be the president of the United States again. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's your argument. 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't get it. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Well, I just think, are you saying. 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Nobody could possibly vote him in as president? 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Well, see, I never understood. I've got to say the 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: first time why he was voted in. And I just 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: can't understand having watched it all today. Kamala Harris's final 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: speech speech today, it was the significance of where she 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: gave it. I think that she delivered a speech that 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: reminded her of her audience of the end of the 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Trump presidency. 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Listen, we know who Donald Trump is. 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: He is the person who stood at this very spot 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: the United States Capital to overturn the will of the 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: people in a free and fair election, an election that. 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: He knew he lost. 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: Americans died as a result of that attack, And while 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: Donald Trump sat in the White House watching, he was 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: told by his staff that the mob wanted to kill 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: his own vice president, and Donald Trump responded with two words, 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: So what, America, that's who Donald Trump is. 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: Well, and it's true. I mean they said that they 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: wanted to hang Mike pens and Trump was told that 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: by his staff. I went back to check it out, 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: and look, the man is, to me unbelievable as a 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: candidate for the United States presidency. Of course, you played 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: that clip earlier on of him saying that he wanted 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: the death penalty for all immigrants who killed any Americans. Well, 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: for his knowledge, many of the millions of Porto Ricans, 43 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: for example, who have now gone to the United States, 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: they are American citizens. So I don't know what he's 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: talking about. 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: He's not having a crackit. I don't want to be 47 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: defending the guy, but he's not having a crackt perto Ricans. 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: The comedian had a cracked Porto Ricans is a. 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Chap called Tony Hunchcliffe's. Trump hasn't denied it, they were 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: apologize for it. He used crass language, joking that Latinos 51 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: love making babies and then went on to make that 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: remark that sparked the immigration turmoil. 53 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 4: It is absolutely wild times, it really really is. And 54 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot going on. Like I don't 55 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: know if you guys know this, but there's literally a 56 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean 57 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico. 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing is that the Puerto Rico is 59 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: a protected protectorate of the United States. All its citizens 60 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: are American citizens, and you know, for Trump not to 61 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: distance himself from that, to me is sort of unbelievable. 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: So you think that he's not going to be president 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: because no one could possibly elect this man. Well, yeah, 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: but look, I know. 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: You're going to say that, And I just wonder where 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Americans heads are at when they look at it a 67 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: man like Donald Trump and say that he's a serious individual. 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: I mean you have to be joking a remember rocket 69 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: man from North Korea. You know, he had us on 70 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: the brink of nuclear destruction. Then with Kim Jong On 71 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: threatening to fire missiles. I mean, this man, I think 72 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: is an absolute danger. 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: To the world. You've got to protect your heart. 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: If I was an American would be most concerned that 75 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: this man is even standing. 76 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Again, should Candice Owens be allowed into the country or not? Ah? 77 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I believe so. And it's the old story. I mean, 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: if New Zealanders don't want to engage with owns, don't 79 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: turn up to see her, I mean, I don't care 80 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: what she's got to say. She can say what she likes. 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: I mean, she has questioned ridiculous things. I mean, she's 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: as bad as a former incumbent that we've been talking 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: about in the White House. She questioned, criticizes feminism, she 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: criticizes the Black Lives Matter movement and trans people. So 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: what I mean, that's that's her entitlement. She's not running 86 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: for office though, she's simply giving her views. I'm going 87 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: to tell you what. She's got a lot of followers. 88 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: She's got two point eight million subscribers to her YouTube channel, 89 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: and that's got over nine hundred videos that have been 90 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: viewed viewed three hundred and forty nine million times, so 91 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: she's got a following out there. I don't think i'd 92 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: go along to listen to her, but you know, if 93 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: people want to pay fifteen hundred dollars a table, let 94 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: them do it. 95 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Brilliant stuff, Barry, Thank you very much, Barry Soaper, Senior 96 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: political correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 98 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio