1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay. A dispute between Prince Harry and the UK tabloids 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: has finally reached a settlement. Prince Harry has been suing 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: the publisher of the Sun for I legally obtained private 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: information about him which was obtained between nineteen ninety six 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: and two thousand and one. So it's been very expensive 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: for him. That he settled. He has agreed to a 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: deal said to be worth more than twenty million New 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Zealand dollars, and Rupert Murdock's tabloids, but not Rupert himself, 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: have apologized to him for a serious intrusion into his 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: private life. So I'm joined now by Royal correspondent Victoria Arbata. 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Hello Victoria, good afternoon. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: How is Prince Harry. What's his response been? 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 2: Well? Prince Harry issued a statement via his lawyer and 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: he described the outcome the settlements as a monumental when 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: he appeared to be absolutely delighted, if not a little 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: relieved that it is all over. You do have to 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: wonder if there's a part Pim that's a little bit 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: disappointed because he has previously talked about being a dragon 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: slayer holding the figures that involved to account and wanting 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: to have his day in court. But at the end 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: of the day, the UK justice system is prohibitively expensive 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: that the cost would have been absolutely eye watering. So 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: hopefully this has given him the closure that he has 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: so long for. 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: So earlier in the program, I said Prince Harry has 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: taken the money and run, and people say, well, look no, 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: he's held them to account. But the fact is, Prince 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Harry always said the dispute was never about the money 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: he was wanting. It wasn't he wanting yes, an apology, yes, 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: or the admissions, but he was also wanting a verdict. 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: He's not getting that now he's getting a sentiment instead. 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: So has he you know, has he has he taken 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the money and run? 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Will you raise a number of very valid points here, 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: And this is where it becomes quite complicated, certainly online 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: he's getting a lot of criticism from people that he 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: has settled. Then this is what's tricky when you promise 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: that you're not going to settle and you're going to 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: be a dragon player. And it was just a few 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: months ago in a forum with The New York Times 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: that he was saying that for him, as you said, 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: that this was never about money. It's about justice. It's 44 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: about holding the responsible parties to account. But there is 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: only so much litigation one can take. But where it 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: becomes really problematic is the UK justice system, which I 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: mentioned before and so without getting too dull about this, 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: in the crux of things are if he was offered 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: a vast sum of money as a settlement and he 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: chose to turn that down, if he got even one 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: penny less having one from the judge, then he would 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: be responsible for both costs on both sides. That is 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: a sum that I think even some of the world 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: billionaires wouldn't be able to wouldn't be able to do. 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: So I think he's got part of what he wants. 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: As you mentioned that apology. He got an apology on 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: behalf of his late mother, Diana, Princess of Wales. But 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: what he has to achieved is the Sun newspaper being 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: shut down or individuals personally being held. 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: Responsible, and also giving a president into the law, which 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: could have been handy in the future. But there we are. 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: So this apology wasn't just for Prince Harry, but what 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: about the risks of the royal family who were snooped 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: on as well. 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: Well. Prince William actually was the one that really achieved that. 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: In two thousand and eleven, he quietly settled with Murdock. 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: And it's interesting that Prince Harry has previously criticized his 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: brother for settling. He thought that that was sort of 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: the coward's way out. I think he was determined not 70 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: to settle. But interestingly it was Prince William. It was 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: his case that resulted in the News of the World newspaper, 72 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: another of mngn's titles, being shut down. There were responsible 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: parties there that were convicted and given jail time. William 74 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: also received a settlement. All of that money he donated 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: to charity, and he received an apology for himself and 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: the wider royal family. I don't think it's right to 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: compare the two brothers because they were sort of fighting 78 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: to different different battles, if you will. They were doing 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: this independently. But Harry has not achieved quite what his 80 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: brother did. But what he did get is that the 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: Sun admitted to unlawful practices, which it hasn't done before. 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Victoria, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. Thank 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: you so much for taking time for us today that 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: is Victoria Abata, Royal Correspondent. 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 87 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio