1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,067 Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZB. 3 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:15,787 Speaker 2: Let's get you across the tasmonstrating correspondent Adam Peacocks, whether 4 00:00:16,067 --> 00:00:19,627 Speaker 2: bleaterslow to this evening Adam to the narrow defeat last weekend, 5 00:00:19,627 --> 00:00:22,307 Speaker 2: give you a bit of optimism the Wallabies could win tonight. 6 00:00:23,147 --> 00:00:27,187 Speaker 3: More optimism than twenty minutes into the game. Point the 7 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:31,467 Speaker 3: balance of the game gave optimism. But Joe Schmidt, he's 8 00:00:31,507 --> 00:00:34,547 Speaker 3: not really into noble losses or close losses. He's in 9 00:00:34,587 --> 00:00:37,427 Speaker 3: about building something and that twenty minutes obviously wasn't good enough. 10 00:00:37,467 --> 00:00:40,787 Speaker 3: They need to be better than that, and some set 11 00:00:40,827 --> 00:00:42,907 Speaker 3: piece is still that they need a lot of work on. 12 00:00:42,987 --> 00:00:46,227 Speaker 3: But they're things that over time evolve. It's not like 13 00:00:47,387 --> 00:00:49,587 Speaker 3: the new coach can go and click a finger, Oh 14 00:00:49,627 --> 00:00:52,787 Speaker 3: the scrumbs better? Are the lineouts better? There are things 15 00:00:52,787 --> 00:00:55,827 Speaker 3: that they need to work on because like maybe the 16 00:00:55,827 --> 00:00:59,267 Speaker 3: fabric of Australian rugby doesn't teach the fundamentals well enough. 17 00:00:59,307 --> 00:01:00,987 Speaker 3: So when you get to that stage up against the 18 00:01:01,067 --> 00:01:03,227 Speaker 3: lead opposition like the All Blacks are and like the 19 00:01:03,267 --> 00:01:07,467 Speaker 3: Northern Hemisphere teams in South Africa, you're going to get exposed. Yeah, 20 00:01:07,507 --> 00:01:10,147 Speaker 3: there's a little bit more hope at the end of 21 00:01:10,147 --> 00:01:12,747 Speaker 3: that game than there was minute midway through, because they 22 00:01:12,747 --> 00:01:15,667 Speaker 3: thought they were watching another all of his all of 23 00:01:15,707 --> 00:01:17,947 Speaker 3: his performance that they dished up in Argentina. 24 00:01:17,987 --> 00:01:20,987 Speaker 2: For instance, we had David Campezi on the show last 25 00:01:21,027 --> 00:01:24,027 Speaker 2: weekend on Sunday and he I don't know whether this 26 00:01:24,067 --> 00:01:26,387 Speaker 2: is a theme that's common. You might know he's not 27 00:01:26,427 --> 00:01:29,307 Speaker 2: a big fan of having a non Australian as coach 28 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:32,307 Speaker 2: of the Australian rugby team. Is that a widely held view? 29 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:37,107 Speaker 3: Not by me, not by some fans. But I can 30 00:01:37,107 --> 00:01:39,587 Speaker 3: get Campo's point of view because he's put on the jersey, 31 00:01:39,747 --> 00:01:43,987 Speaker 3: So I get he might go back to his days 32 00:01:43,987 --> 00:01:46,027 Speaker 3: when he was sitting there and he'd rather hear from 33 00:01:46,347 --> 00:01:49,307 Speaker 3: someone who knows where he's from, his backstory, all those 34 00:01:49,347 --> 00:01:52,107 Speaker 3: things that go into it you take time to pick 35 00:01:52,187 --> 00:01:55,707 Speaker 3: up if you're from beyond our boarders. So I get 36 00:01:55,707 --> 00:01:58,587 Speaker 3: what Campo is saying. It's not I don't think he 37 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:01,467 Speaker 3: means any xenophobia, vite or anything like that. He just 38 00:02:02,427 --> 00:02:05,507 Speaker 3: he probably feels that Australian jersey means more to an 39 00:02:05,507 --> 00:02:09,467 Speaker 3: Australian than to others. And that goes the coach as well. 40 00:02:09,467 --> 00:02:11,867 Speaker 3: But I don't subscribe to that theory. I'm very much 41 00:02:12,547 --> 00:02:15,827 Speaker 3: a best person for the job, whether they be male, female, 42 00:02:16,187 --> 00:02:20,627 Speaker 3: kiwek Irish, Australian, don't care. And I reckon judgment's up 43 00:02:20,627 --> 00:02:22,587 Speaker 3: there with one of the best available options. 44 00:02:22,667 --> 00:02:25,147 Speaker 2: All Right, we look forward to this afternoon for you, 45 00:02:25,267 --> 00:02:28,507 Speaker 2: this evening for us. It's a big day in Australia. 46 00:02:28,507 --> 00:02:31,307 Speaker 2: The AFL Grand Final Sydney Swan's Brisbane lines at the 47 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:35,547 Speaker 2: Melbourne Cricket Ground. So two non Victorian teams are Swan's 48 00:02:35,907 --> 00:02:36,787 Speaker 2: slight favorites. 49 00:02:38,107 --> 00:02:41,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that've been the best side for the majority 50 00:02:41,147 --> 00:02:43,667 Speaker 3: of the year. They had a really weird kind of 51 00:02:43,827 --> 00:02:47,547 Speaker 3: free quarter point period where they just dropped games for 52 00:02:47,587 --> 00:02:50,307 Speaker 3: fun after going undefeated for so long to start the season. 53 00:02:50,387 --> 00:02:54,187 Speaker 3: But Brisbane have just shown this tenacity and they got 54 00:02:54,187 --> 00:02:56,227 Speaker 3: to a Grand Final last year that they've shown this 55 00:02:56,307 --> 00:02:58,947 Speaker 3: ability in bigger games to kind of just stay in 56 00:02:58,987 --> 00:03:01,427 Speaker 3: it and then be really really good when it counted, 57 00:03:01,547 --> 00:03:05,987 Speaker 3: So that that kind of puts the market the squeeze 58 00:03:05,987 --> 00:03:08,667 Speaker 3: on the mark. I reckon, like, if Brisbane didn't get 59 00:03:08,707 --> 00:03:11,027 Speaker 3: to the Grand Final and manner they did, Swans are 60 00:03:11,027 --> 00:03:15,267 Speaker 3: probably dollar thirty favorites, but yeah, I can see a 61 00:03:15,347 --> 00:03:20,147 Speaker 3: tight game, especially and it's kind of captured. Sydney has 62 00:03:20,147 --> 00:03:22,547 Speaker 3: captured Brisbane has captured Melbourne, of course, because these two 63 00:03:22,547 --> 00:03:28,987 Speaker 3: clubs actually started in Melbourne or a big part of 64 00:03:28,987 --> 00:03:30,867 Speaker 3: the club. It was South Melbourne for Sydney and it 65 00:03:30,907 --> 00:03:34,227 Speaker 3: was Fitzroy for Brisbane before mergers and relocations happened for 66 00:03:34,307 --> 00:03:36,987 Speaker 3: various reasons. So yeah, there's a bit of everywhere in 67 00:03:37,027 --> 00:03:38,867 Speaker 3: the country kind of involved in this one to day 68 00:03:38,907 --> 00:03:42,067 Speaker 3: and they're expecting record ratings on TV for it because. 69 00:03:41,867 --> 00:03:45,427 Speaker 2: Of that, and to the NRL Week three of the 70 00:03:45,427 --> 00:03:48,187 Speaker 2: finals before the Grand Final next weekend. The Stormer they're 71 00:03:48,307 --> 00:03:50,427 Speaker 2: far too good for the Roosters last night. I actually 72 00:03:50,467 --> 00:03:52,827 Speaker 2: thought the Roosters were a good team until I saw 73 00:03:52,867 --> 00:03:57,427 Speaker 2: them play Melbourne last night. Any chance the Sharks upset 74 00:03:57,427 --> 00:04:00,267 Speaker 2: Penrith to night or are we storm Panthers next weekend? 75 00:04:01,187 --> 00:04:03,947 Speaker 3: Yeah? About a week ago, Piney or less than a 76 00:04:03,947 --> 00:04:06,227 Speaker 3: week ago, after the two games were set, I thought, 77 00:04:06,827 --> 00:04:09,027 Speaker 3: I can't see either of these two sides getting closer. 78 00:04:09,067 --> 00:04:10,267 Speaker 3: If there was going to be one of them, it 79 00:04:10,307 --> 00:04:12,547 Speaker 3: was going to be the Roosters, And I mean first 80 00:04:12,947 --> 00:04:16,227 Speaker 3: first tackle of the game. They lose their starting front 81 00:04:16,307 --> 00:04:19,307 Speaker 3: rower Lindsay Collins, with stuffed their rotations up on the 82 00:04:19,307 --> 00:04:23,067 Speaker 3: bench and you know Lynchay Collins is his world class player, 83 00:04:23,147 --> 00:04:25,947 Speaker 3: so he dropped out and in the end, I mean 84 00:04:25,987 --> 00:04:28,107 Speaker 3: Melbourne were just too good and they picked a part. 85 00:04:28,147 --> 00:04:31,267 Speaker 3: Melbourne is so good at picking a perceived weakness of 86 00:04:31,267 --> 00:04:33,267 Speaker 3: a team and then really going at it and making 87 00:04:33,307 --> 00:04:35,547 Speaker 3: him to a gaping wound. And that's what they did 88 00:04:35,587 --> 00:04:39,227 Speaker 3: yesterday with Luke Keary in his defense unable to get 89 00:04:39,227 --> 00:04:41,267 Speaker 3: the protection to him, so they blew him apart in 90 00:04:41,267 --> 00:04:43,947 Speaker 3: the first half tonight. I can see the same thing happened. 91 00:04:43,947 --> 00:04:46,547 Speaker 3: Penrith are just so good at being just robotic in 92 00:04:46,587 --> 00:04:48,587 Speaker 3: what they do at a million miles an hour and 93 00:04:48,627 --> 00:04:50,667 Speaker 3: I don't think Sharks can cope with them, unfortunately. 94 00:04:51,307 --> 00:04:53,547 Speaker 2: And just before you go, hi, excitement here in New 95 00:04:53,667 --> 00:04:57,067 Speaker 2: Zealand yesterday with confirmation that Liam Lawson will have a 96 00:04:57,067 --> 00:04:58,947 Speaker 2: Formula One drive for the rest of this year and 97 00:04:59,107 --> 00:05:01,227 Speaker 2: presumably for he does well, he'll keep the seat next 98 00:05:01,307 --> 00:05:03,267 Speaker 2: year at red Ball. This of course is at the 99 00:05:03,307 --> 00:05:07,347 Speaker 2: expense of Australian Daniel Ricardo's that's the reaction being on 100 00:05:07,387 --> 00:05:08,547 Speaker 2: your side of the Tasman to this. 101 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:12,907 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nothing to do with Lian Lawson. I don't 102 00:05:12,947 --> 00:05:15,187 Speaker 3: think there's any shade been thrown at him. It's not 103 00:05:15,307 --> 00:05:17,467 Speaker 3: his fault. He's just a good young driver waiting for 104 00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:20,707 Speaker 3: an opportunity like Oscar Piastre, like Daniel Riccardo did back 105 00:05:20,747 --> 00:05:25,027 Speaker 3: in the day. Purely down to Red Bull and how 106 00:05:25,027 --> 00:05:29,667 Speaker 3: they've handled this. It's been an abomination. I think. I 107 00:05:29,747 --> 00:05:32,387 Speaker 3: think Land was on your radio station earlier in the 108 00:05:32,387 --> 00:05:35,107 Speaker 3: week with your breakfast presenter saying that now I kind 109 00:05:35,107 --> 00:05:36,747 Speaker 3: of got wind of this, that this was going to 110 00:05:36,747 --> 00:05:38,587 Speaker 3: happen two weeks ago. All of that was the case. 111 00:05:38,667 --> 00:05:41,987 Speaker 3: Give Daniel the due course of a proper send off 112 00:05:41,987 --> 00:05:44,507 Speaker 3: when it happens last weekend in Singapore. Instead, he just 113 00:05:44,587 --> 00:05:46,467 Speaker 3: kind of had to guess for himself and then make 114 00:05:46,507 --> 00:05:50,347 Speaker 3: his own kind of feelings clear at that Grand Prix, 115 00:05:50,347 --> 00:05:56,707 Speaker 3: whereas it was really really average human behavior. I thought 116 00:05:56,987 --> 00:06:00,027 Speaker 3: from the people at Red Bull about not fronting up 117 00:06:00,067 --> 00:06:02,947 Speaker 3: and not owning their decision. Make the decision. It's fine, 118 00:06:02,947 --> 00:06:05,347 Speaker 3: the kid's a good driver, obviously, Land Lawson. There's an 119 00:06:05,347 --> 00:06:08,547 Speaker 3: outside chance that if if Sergio Perez drives like a 120 00:06:08,587 --> 00:06:10,747 Speaker 3: bustard for the rest of the year that Learnin could 121 00:06:10,747 --> 00:06:13,227 Speaker 3: be elevated into the main Red Bull team because he's 122 00:06:13,227 --> 00:06:17,307 Speaker 3: gone into the the junior team. So just own your 123 00:06:17,307 --> 00:06:19,787 Speaker 3: decision and it's fine. Everyone will get on. And I 124 00:06:19,787 --> 00:06:22,347 Speaker 3: think Daniel Riccardo would have appreciated that as well. So 125 00:06:22,427 --> 00:06:24,787 Speaker 3: that's where all the angst from Australia has come this 126 00:06:24,867 --> 00:06:27,387 Speaker 3: week because he is so loved over here, Daniel Ricardo 127 00:06:27,467 --> 00:06:28,547 Speaker 3: and will continue to visa. 128 00:06:28,747 --> 00:06:30,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what knicks for him? Does he? I mean 129 00:06:30,787 --> 00:06:33,027 Speaker 2: he probably won't drive Formula one again, will he? Will 130 00:06:33,027 --> 00:06:34,667 Speaker 2: he stay in a car of some sort. 131 00:06:35,387 --> 00:06:38,547 Speaker 3: N these guys get opportunities to drive, you he'll come 132 00:06:38,547 --> 00:06:40,587 Speaker 3: back and drive things like Bathi's that wouldn't be surprised 133 00:06:40,587 --> 00:06:42,907 Speaker 3: if he ends up in Indy car and things like that. 134 00:06:42,947 --> 00:06:44,947 Speaker 3: There's so many options. He can drive the mine and 135 00:06:45,067 --> 00:06:50,707 Speaker 3: he can drive various freelancers, just go around the world 136 00:06:50,907 --> 00:06:53,787 Speaker 3: and drive races, nothing like the thrill and glamour of 137 00:06:53,827 --> 00:06:56,787 Speaker 3: Formula One. He apparently had the opportunity to become the 138 00:06:56,827 --> 00:06:58,707 Speaker 3: reserve driver again of Red Bull and he told him 139 00:06:58,747 --> 00:07:02,107 Speaker 3: where a sticket? So I can understand that unless something's 140 00:07:02,147 --> 00:07:05,387 Speaker 3: changed in the last twenty four hours. But one thing 141 00:07:05,427 --> 00:07:08,067 Speaker 3: I know about Daniel. He'll get on with life and 142 00:07:08,107 --> 00:07:10,907 Speaker 3: he'll be okay. He's done pretty well for itself, so 143 00:07:10,947 --> 00:07:13,747 Speaker 3: it's it's not like the end of the world for 144 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:16,147 Speaker 3: him and it's oh my god, he's outing the stritten 145 00:07:16,187 --> 00:07:18,307 Speaker 3: where's he's going to live? Type thing. It's just how 146 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:20,747 Speaker 3: you treat people, and that's the thing. And I think 147 00:07:20,827 --> 00:07:23,947 Speaker 3: Daniel Ricardo's coming come out looking better out of this 148 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:25,507 Speaker 3: than certainly his exposes. 149 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:28,627 Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Hey Adam, always great to chat Australian Sport 150 00:07:28,667 --> 00:07:30,507 Speaker 2: with you. Thanks for your time this afternoon. We'll do 151 00:07:30,507 --> 00:07:31,387 Speaker 2: it again next Saturday. 152 00:07:31,507 --> 00:07:32,307 Speaker 3: Kis Pony got to. 153 00:07:35,147 --> 00:07:38,227 Speaker 2: I won't Those thoughts made to genty none the list 154 00:07:38,507 --> 00:07:42,227 Speaker 2: Adam Peacock part of our Saturday Afternoons, our Australian correspondent 155 00:07:42,667 --> 00:07:44,907 Speaker 2: every Saturday about this time on Weekend Sport. 156 00:07:45,467 --> 00:07:48,627 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live 157 00:07:48,747 --> 00:07:52,027 Speaker 1: to News Talk z B weekends from midday or follow 158 00:07:52,067 --> 00:07:53,627 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.