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Speaker 1: Politics was centric credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certainty. Barry so, Senior Political correspondence with US.

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Speaker 1: Now, hey Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So what did the snap debate in Parliament about

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Speaker 2: the fairies find out? Ah?

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Speaker 1: Not a lot really, but it was the ministerial questions.

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Speaker 1: I think that found a lot more than what the

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Speaker 1: debate did. It was claimed in Parliament during question time

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Speaker 1: that Winston Peters, when he was with the Durn government,

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Speaker 1: was the minister responsible for the faery contract which blew

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Speaker 1: out from seven hundred and fifty million to three point

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Speaker 1: two billion. Well, I talked to Winston Peters about this

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Speaker 1: and he said that yes, he did sign off on

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Speaker 1: two ferries, but they would have been the same size

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Speaker 1: and dimension of the fairies that are crossing the Strait

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Speaker 1: at the moment. But the contract that was signed by

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Speaker 1: Labor contracted bigger, much bigger fairies, which meant that infrastructure

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Speaker 1: on either side of the Strait had to be upgraded.

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Speaker 1: So that we're sayings all the money came from.

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Speaker 3: When he was the Soe minister. He said, yes, you

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Speaker 3: can get two fairies, but he said two small fairies.

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Speaker 1: Two ferries the size are the ones that were currently operated.

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Speaker 3: And then when at the change of government in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty and New Zealand first was out.

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Speaker 2: After that, it was Labor who then went for the

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Speaker 2: big ones.

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Speaker 1: The big ones. Yeah right, So the Prime Minister he

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Speaker 1: faced questions about it in Parliament today and he said

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Speaker 1: the Labor led government had no idea of what they

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Speaker 1: were getting the country into.

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Speaker 4: This government knows how to run economics, We know how

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Speaker 4: to manage projects, right, unlike that government who somehow thought

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Speaker 4: it was perfectly reasonable to go spend seven hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty million dollars which is tunes into three point two

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Speaker 4: billion dollars and rising. You have no economic credentials, no

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Speaker 4: economic record. You haven't been able to deliver a pizza,

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Speaker 4: let alone fairies.

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Speaker 5: Can the Prime Minister confirm the cost of the fairies

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Speaker 5: themselves was only twenty one percent of the total project cost.

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Speaker 5: That is, the garage was going to cost four times

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Speaker 5: as much as the sh that was going in it.

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Speaker 1: I can.

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Speaker 4: Eighty percent of the costs were now associated with port

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Speaker 4: redevelopments of Wellington and Picton for big ships that actually

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Speaker 4: didn't work.

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Speaker 1: See that's ridiculous because really that why would you go

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Speaker 1: ahead with ships that didn't wouldn't fit for perspose when

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Speaker 1: it came to docking on either side of the strait.

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Speaker 1: Now I can confirm that the Ministerial Advisory Group met

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Speaker 1: last night to consider an option for the new fairies,

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Speaker 1: which will no doubt be smaller and able to birth

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Speaker 1: at these on either side of the strait. The current

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Speaker 1: ships have to be maintained for at least two years.

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Speaker 1: Act of course, wants to sell off forty nine percent

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Speaker 1: of Kiwi roll. So look, this is a really vexed issue.

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Speaker 1: But once if they sign a contract for fairies that

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Speaker 1: basically the equivalent to those that are sailing the straight,

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Speaker 1: now it seems to be the end of the real problem.

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Speaker 2: Barry, did the ministerial meeting make a decision last night.

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Speaker 1: They haven't made a decision that's going to go to cabinet.

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Speaker 1: So they had a discussion on it, so they'll no

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Speaker 1: doubt probably go to cabinet hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Do you know if they formed a view I can

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Speaker 2: preferred view.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. Okay, I know they meant.

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Speaker 3: It interesting, but they are moving at pace right they are.

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Speaker 3: This thing was dragging on and then all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden the ship runs aground and now they're having a mets.

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Speaker 1: They have to make cont I mean, it takes time

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Speaker 1: to build a.

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Speaker 2: Ship that three strikes laws a bit of a dog,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well, See, I found it incredible that I heard you say,

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Speaker 1: and I tried to check it out that if the

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Speaker 1: previous records of criminals in New Zealander expunge that was

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Speaker 1: sentenced under three strikes, what's the point of bringing it back. Well,

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Speaker 1: there is a point in bringing it back, but people

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Speaker 1: that have had two strikes they should be still held accountable.

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Speaker 1: They haven't do rehabilitated in any way if they're before

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Speaker 1: the court again. So I find that incredible, And I

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Speaker 1: know you're going to be speaking to Nicole McKee about it,

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Speaker 1: and i'd like to here or explanation on that, because

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Speaker 1: I think it is ridiculous. Barry.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that this New Zealand first invoking the

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Speaker 3: agree to disagree provision is a big deal, is it.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the media go crazy on this today and

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Speaker 1: it's really frustrated me saying cracks and the coalition, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, in every coalition that's taken place since nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety six, there have been clauses in the coalition agreements

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Speaker 1: to agree to disagree, and that simply means on this

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Speaker 1: occasion it was a fairly minor disagreement, and that Winston

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Speaker 1: Peter is one of the whole COVID inquiry Commission of

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Speaker 1: Inquiry scrapped and started out, had to restart it because

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Speaker 1: he felt that it was biased, would have been biased

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Speaker 1: towards labor, and probably with good reason. But to agree

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Speaker 1: to disagree, I think is perfectly legitimate in what is

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Speaker 1: a coalition type guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, I thought so too. Okay, Barry really appreciated.

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Speaker 2: It's Barry so Per, senior political correspondent. For more from

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