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Speaker 1: Santa Fe Police this is in the United States, say

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Speaker 1: the death of Oscar winning actor Gene Hackman and his

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Speaker 1: wife is suspicious enough to warrant investigation. The actor was

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Speaker 1: found dead alongside his wife, Betsy and the dog yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office saying, you'd been dead for some time,

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Speaker 1: although they're not sure if foul play was involved. It's

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Speaker 1: a little unclear at this point. Sean Mandel is the

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Speaker 1: entertainment reporter with the New York Post. He's based in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Sean, good evening, Good evening, Good to have

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Speaker 1: you on the program. What is the latest with this story.

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Speaker 2: What we do know at this point is that there

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Speaker 2: has been a press release sent out by the sheriff

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Speaker 2: in Santa Fe County, New Mexico, as well as a

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Speaker 2: released Affidavid that gave startling details about the police and

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Speaker 2: their discovery of the body of Gene Hackman and his wife,

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Speaker 2: Betsy Arakawa. Police arrived on Wednesday afternoon after a maintenance

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Speaker 2: for kers showed up at the property and was unable

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Speaker 2: to get a hold of either Gene Hackman or his wife.

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Speaker 2: He then contacted the local neighborhood security. The couple lived

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Speaker 2: in a very posh, high end, multimillion dollar estate area

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Speaker 2: in a gated community that had local security. They then

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Speaker 2: the local security then went and observed through a window

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Speaker 2: the bodies of Gene Hackman and his wife, called nine

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Speaker 2: one one, and at that point police arrived on the scene,

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Speaker 2: and as you said, there is enough evidence based on

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Speaker 2: what they mentioned in their AFFI David, that they believe

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Speaker 2: that this is suspicious because of the nature of the

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Speaker 2: bodies both being found at the same time, as well

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Speaker 2: as some disturbing details about Hackman's wife and the state

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Speaker 2: of decomposition that she was in, which goes to it

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Speaker 2: leads to a question about how long they were in

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Speaker 2: fact there. Toxicology results are pending. They did do toxicology

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Speaker 2: tests on both Hackman and miss Arakawa, including testing for

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Speaker 2: carbon monoxide, which the family members of the family have

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Speaker 2: come out and said that they believe that could have

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Speaker 2: been a contributing factor or in fact the cause of

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Speaker 2: both of their debts and the death of one of

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Speaker 2: their dogs, but it's going to take several weeks for

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Speaker 2: those test results to come back.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the decomposition on her body, Was it different

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Speaker 1: to the decomposition on his body? Is that why police

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Speaker 1: are a little concerned.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's actually unclear in the way that police have

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Speaker 2: worded it in their documentation so far. They said that

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Speaker 2: Hackman's body was found and showed signs of death that

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Speaker 2: were similar and consistent with his wife's body. Now that

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Speaker 2: could be that's a little vague. It could just mean

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Speaker 2: that they were passed out on the floor. That could

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Speaker 2: mean the details of the level of decomposition that were

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Speaker 2: found to be present on his wife's body, which included

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Speaker 2: a mummification is the official word, of her hands and feet,

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Speaker 2: and a bloated and her face apparently was quite bloated.

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Speaker 2: But the law enforcement noted that a space heater seemed

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Speaker 2: to have been was on the floor near her body

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Speaker 2: that may have been knocked off of the counter, as

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Speaker 2: well as a pill container that was opened with prescription

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Speaker 2: pills scattered on a countertop. So there's a lot that

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Speaker 2: is left unclear here and certainly makes sense why police

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Speaker 2: would now need to conduct this investigation. But it really

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Speaker 2: will come down. Even the sheriff has said today that

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Speaker 2: they believe it will come down to these toxicologies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting stuff, Sean, Thanks for that. Sean Mandel, who's

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Speaker 1: the LA entertainment reporter with The New York Times, Ryan

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