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Speaker 1: Now there is some criticism of the Commerce Commission for

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Speaker 1: the legal action it's taking against One New Zealand. The

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Speaker 1: ComCom has decided to press charges against One New Zealand

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Speaker 1: because One New Zealand has claimed that once it hooks

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Speaker 1: up with SpaceX, it will provide one hundred percent mobile

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Speaker 1: coverage launching twenty twenty four. Now, apparently that is misleading

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Speaker 1: because it won't be one hundred percent because you will

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Speaker 1: not possibly be able to get coverage when you're inside

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Speaker 1: a building, inside a car, or underneath tree coverage, which

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Speaker 1: feels some say, maybe a little pedantic. Paul Spain is

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Speaker 1: a tech commentator and Guerrilla Tech CEO and with US.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey Paul, Hey you Heather.

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Speaker 1: Is that a bit pedantic from the ComCom?

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Speaker 2: Well, it does seem a bit that way to me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think if there are so many things

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Speaker 2: that you could pull companies up on and look, I'm

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Speaker 2: a long term one end ZED customer and I you know,

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Speaker 2: and I do some other business with them, So maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit biased, but you know, it just

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Speaker 2: it seems a little bit over the top to me.

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Speaker 2: You know, you could you could look at every electric

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Speaker 2: vehicle that's sold in the country that has a range

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Speaker 2: on it. You know, none of them can actually ever

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Speaker 2: ever meet that range, and there's technical reasons behind it.

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Speaker 2: They could go after Tesla, who have been selling their

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Speaker 2: full self drive cars, and they originally promised that they

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Speaker 2: would deliver that capability to customers by the end of

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. We're in twenty twenty four. It still hasn't

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Speaker 2: been delivered. I haven't heard the Commerce Commission go after

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Speaker 2: that one. So yeah, I don't know why they've why

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Speaker 2: they've chosen in this case. It does seem a bit

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Speaker 2: over the top.

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Speaker 1: Every really doesn't. Then what do you make of the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Commus Commission has received eight complaints about

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Speaker 1: this advertising, two of which at least came from rival

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Speaker 1: Spark in two degrees.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like.

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Speaker 1: A lot to go on.

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Speaker 2: It's not a lot to go on. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: would tend to think if you were a customer that

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Speaker 2: had been hard done by this, and you had decided

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Speaker 2: to move your entire business or your family onto One

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Speaker 2: end Z and that they couldn't deliver, I'd be I'd

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Speaker 2: be pretty confident that if you got got in touch

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Speaker 2: with One end ZED and say hey, you know, this

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Speaker 2: isn't what we're expecting that that they would they would

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Speaker 2: probably make things right. So I'm a little unsure on

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Speaker 2: this one. I got to say.

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Speaker 1: Now, there has also been a warning to one New

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Speaker 1: Zealand that's coming from people who understand technology that getting

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Speaker 1: into bed with Elon Musk is maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a risky thing because he says he's going to

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Speaker 1: do something at the start of the year, and it's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen at the start of the year.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, well, that.

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Speaker 2: That comes back to my Tesla example. I think I

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Speaker 2: think we've seen plenty of examples where where where Musk

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Speaker 2: will will lay out a timeline and they're they're very,

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Speaker 2: very hard to achieve. That said, when you look at

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Speaker 2: some of the things that that his companies have achieved,

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Speaker 2: they're they're often you know, well ahead of anybody else

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Speaker 2: in the market in terms of what what they achieve when,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, not not necessarily on track with the timelines

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Speaker 2: and sometimes out by five years, like the full self

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Speaker 2: driving capability and counting. Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Paul on the idea that just because I find this fascinating,

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Speaker 1: right on the idea that once this all kicks in,

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Speaker 1: you will be able to get tech coverage. And look,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be slow and it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a bit crappy, but you'll be able to get tech

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Speaker 1: coverage absolutely everywhere in the country and you'll never be

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Speaker 1: able to escape your phone. This is the future for us, right,

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Speaker 1: we need to get used to this. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be ubiquitous and you'll be contactable at all stages. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that in the future, though, we will start

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Speaker 1: to learn to turn ourselves offline and actually have time.

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Speaker 2: Out, Ah, one hundred percent. I mean, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of us are already trying to do that, to

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Speaker 2: varying degrees of success. Right, And I think you know,

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Speaker 2: I used to enjoy the long international flights up to

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Speaker 2: North America and ah, this is the one time I

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Speaker 2: get offline, or you know, going going going out to

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Speaker 2: a holiday destination where there was no coverage. But you

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Speaker 2: know those things, those you know, situations have got less

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Speaker 2: and less. Yes, there's a you know, there's a few

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Speaker 2: airlines that don't have Wi Fi in their international flights

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Speaker 2: and so on. Yeah. Look, I think you know, there's

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Speaker 2: there's some there's some disciplines that we have to we

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Speaker 2: have to build in and the same way, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: with with the way our youngsters use technology, we have

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Speaker 2: to you know, we set some guidelines and some frameworks

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Speaker 2: around those things. So yeah, I think that there's very much,

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Speaker 2: you know, something that'll probably you know, become more and

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Speaker 2: more common for people to to draw some lines around

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Speaker 2: when they have their devices on and off.

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Speaker 1: God, I love it, Paul, Thank you very much. Paul Spain,

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Speaker 1: tech commentator and Guerrilla Tech CEO. And I reckon we'll

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Speaker 1: turn it. We'll start to learn our turn to turn

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Speaker 1: our phones off and be unapologetic about it, just be like, well, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I didn't I just wanted to have some time out

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Speaker 1: for like five days, just completely out.

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