1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: So we've got the GDP number out for Q three 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: later later today. It's expected to show a significant bounce 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: back after Q two's horror number, which, by the way, 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: should also be revised. Sharon's Honor is A and z's 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: chief economist and with us morning. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Sharon, good morning. 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: So do you have Q three at one percent growth? 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: We do, but we are a bit nervous that some 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: of that could turn up in revision, So the headline 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: number might look a bit different, but the overall story 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: should be that some of the corners get knocked off 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: the volatility, and likely the overall level of GDPs will 13 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: be revised up. That typically happens at this time of 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: the years that to Zion books under the sofa, at 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: some annual numbers that get put into it at this 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 2: time here. 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: What do you expect the revision on Q two to be? 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Oh, we don't predict revisions, but I would say that 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: of the Q three number, that's point the one percent 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: we're expecting, maybe half is a noise, sort of a 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: rebound from the weaknesses you two and half is sort 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: of cyclical drenths that we're seeing coming through. So that 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: sort of is just sort of some idea of the 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: potential range of revisions. But yeah, no, it's hard enough 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: to predict the latest number, let alone predicting well. 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: Looking at the moment towards twenty twenty six, it looks 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: like it's going to be a lot better, right, But 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: then you get the services number like we did this week, 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: and it casts a bit of doubt. What do you think. 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting that some of the undercators appointing 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: in different directions, But I guess that's what you're going 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: to get at turning points, isn't it. You know, the 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: events where one business is saying actually things are taking 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: off and the one next to them looks at them 35 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: and disbelief. It is just that kind of patchiness that 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: you see. That said, in our business survey, we have 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: seen quite a wide range of sectors saying that's not 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: just that they're more optimistic, but that the here and 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: now has improved. We'll get an update on that tomorrow 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: along with consumer confidence as well. 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Now, the news I see the new Reserve Bank governor 42 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: has made quite an effort to intervene in the markets, 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: the wholesale markets. Is it actually done very much? 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? We saw the new John DOLLA down a bit. 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: We saw rates down a bit too. They're still well 46 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: up on where they were because fundamentally, the market has 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: just reassessed the prospects of further cuts and now believes 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: there is a bank when they say that unlikely, and 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: indeed the government did reiterate that they think they're done cutting. 50 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Her point was more that they're not likely to be 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: hiking anytime soon. Technically the market was pricing hikes from July. 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: That I wouldn't interpret it literally because it was more 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: a reflection of large flows of money going through, including 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: everyone racing to fix their mortgage, trying to race through 55 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: a small door, and just causing some liquidity there. 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: She seems to be quite keen on the idea of 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: having another OCR decision in the calendar year, and it 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: sounds like possibly over summer. Would you be into that? 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it makes sense, and so far as 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: it is a very long break. She has also just 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: demonstrated that they can influence the market outside of that timetable, 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: but there is certainly very useful discipline process that they 63 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: go through. So it is a bit more where the 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: speech is a bit more ad hoc. So in that regard, yeah, 65 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: I think it would certainly bring new Jean Moore into 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: line with international norms. 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Sharon, Thanks very much. 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