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Speaker 2: Hello are you great New Zealander and welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one for one for Monday,

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Speaker 2: the ninth of June and the Year of Our Lord

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Boy, what an interesting show I think

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Speaker 2: if you go on this show, and can I just

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Speaker 2: say thank you so much for all the people that

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Speaker 2: are listening to the show. We've been flying up the

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Speaker 2: me came to me and said, geez, your growth is impressive.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't talking about my Haglin's deformity that's growing up

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Speaker 2: Pilla to Poe, We're talking about the growth in our podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for downloading and tell friends about it if

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Speaker 2: you like it. But what I was going to say

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Speaker 2: is what a what a show it was, because it

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Speaker 2: starts off with me sort of postulating an idea that

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Speaker 2: whether you agree with Elon Musk or not his principles,

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Speaker 2: he's a principal human being that he believes in his

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Speaker 2: principles right through to just the most heartwarming chat about

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Speaker 2: and they got quite heated, right right through to the

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Speaker 2: most heartwarming chat you'll ever have about Sunday race.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd a last hour, but you're right as well.

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Speaker 2: It's a real journey. Yeah, and then shit goes down

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Speaker 2: with the pass ups. But yeah, yeah, I look forward

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Speaker 2: to your thoughts on that. Look, have you ever got

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Speaker 2: any feedback on whether you're enjoying the pot or not?

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Speaker 2: Just slide into my dms at Matt Heath in z

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Speaker 2: Give them a taste of krewe from Tyler and I.

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Speaker 3: Love you Little.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said the.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to You're welcome and so Monday, I hope

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Speaker 3: you had a fantastic weekend.

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Speaker 2: Getto mess, get a Tyler good av when you had

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Speaker 2: an amazing weekend. Down and topau at the pull it

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Speaker 2: relays over six hours.

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Speaker 2: So I ran about three running at five sixteen a k.

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Speaker 2: You've got to celebrate people that come up with ideas

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Speaker 2: we don't celebrate people like that enough. We're always listening

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Speaker 2: to people that are wing ging or have a problem

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Speaker 2: But these great New Zealanders at the at two Mile

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Speaker 3: Roast revival across New Zealand, the once old fashion Roasters

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Speaker 3: about Elon Musk. Is he the most principal person in

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Speaker 2: So the question is, is Elon Musk the most principal

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I know about those principles that you

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Speaker 3: But he confuses people, right, He confuses people on the left,

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Speaker 2: Well, when the yeah, exactly, So that's the point. So

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Speaker 2: Oh there you go, all right, Here comes here comes

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Speaker 2: yeap nine two nine to eight hundred and a two.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it. It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons used

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon sixteen pass one. Elon Masku is the

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Speaker 3: is he the most principal person in the world right now.

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Speaker 3: He's certainly stood by his principles when it came to

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, space, free speech, buying, Twitter, population collapse.

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Speaker 2: He's got fourteen kids, artificial intelligence, He's in a war

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Speaker 2: So he believes if it's an existential risk to humanity,

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Speaker 2: he will fight for his principles to keep humanity going.

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Speaker 3: You could argue, or you could argue differently. Eight hundred

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Speaker 3: full disclosure.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 5: Mister joins us last week's announcement on the lack of gas.

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Speaker 5: How alarmed do you become each time they say this?

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Speaker 2: I think this is one of the great tragedies of

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Maybe's

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, We're talking about Elon Musk. Is he the

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Speaker 2: This Texas is a bit of a stretch to call

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Speaker 2: and it's strained or non existent relations with many of women. Principled, yes,

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Speaker 2: but that might be not one of his principles, right,

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about he has his set of principles,

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Speaker 2: is currently as he said, population collaps due to low

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Speaker 2: You may not agree with it, but he has set

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Speaker 2: risk a lot to back those principles. Yeah, one of

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Speaker 2: them doesn't seem to be being a present father for

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Speaker 2: someone that's not one of his principles. That's one of

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Speaker 2: my principles. I think you should be there for your kids.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not so much for Elon, except for little X and.

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Speaker 3: This Texas says Okaday. Guys Elon Musk for all his

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Speaker 3: critics as the Thomas Edison of our time. Elon is

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Speaker 3: an unusual character, no doubt, but has an amazing mind.

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Speaker 3: He created the concept of mainstream politics, electoral engineering of

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Speaker 3: and this guy is and has reformed it. Don't discount

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Speaker 2: All right, so have we got telephones yet?

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's see if we can get right on right.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to show, Matt and Tyler. Yes, yes, sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: We had our own Elon musk Eden to sort it out.

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Speaker 8: I thought that I was thought of saying that, but

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Speaker 8: But I think I think Elon's got a heck of

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Speaker 8: nobody's perfect. That he's still a human so and many

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Speaker 9: You get what you see.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he you know, like I mean, what's it all?

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Speaker 8: all out in the open. He doesn't hide anything like

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Speaker 8: not to forget the neuralink, what he's done with stroke

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Speaker 2: people that really lay into Elon Musk is the good

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Speaker 10: In a long time.

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Speaker 8: So it's by your you know, by your fruits, you

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Speaker 8: I think he's got a lot of playing a lot

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that he has sometimes

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Speaker 8: Oh? For sure? And I mean who isn't sometimes you know,

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Speaker 8: I mean he is definitely. I mean he gets on

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Speaker 2: X time rod. That's what. That what That's what shocks me.

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Speaker 2: So with all the work with SpaceX or work he's

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Speaker 2: doing with all his different companies Tesla, how does he

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Speaker 8: Exactly, And some of them are so remain you know,

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Speaker 8: Not really, I haven't really, I'm not going to blow

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Speaker 8: I think he's been. He's complimented Trump and they're both

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Speaker 2: Now that's sort of gone a bit out of whack.

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Speaker 2: This Blake says, in that case, we are all principal. No,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't I disagree with that text, Blake, because a

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Speaker 2: we're saying with Elon Musk because he's willing to take

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Speaker 2: Tesla's because he believed that debt was such an existential

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Speaker 3: And now he's facing the the IRA people and Donald

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much, Raylan. We're talking about Elon Muskin. Is

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Speaker 3: He has a bunch of principles that arguably he has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so this text he has said, both Trump

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Speaker 2: give me strength. That's from Israel. But that's because you

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Speaker 2: the world. He thinks that the Earth is under existential

434
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Speaker 2: threat from a calamity, so he thinks we need to

435
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Speaker 2: be colonized Mars so humanity survives. He believes that free

436
00:21:21,453 --> 00:21:25,493
Speaker 2: speech is very important for democracy, so we bought Twitter,

437
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Speaker 2: population collapse, artificial intelligence. He has these principles that he

438
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Speaker 2: believes in and he's willing to risk it all for them.

439
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Speaker 2: This Texas says, you two are totally ignorant. That's always

440
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Speaker 2: a good start when someone starts a text without He

441
00:21:36,733 --> 00:21:39,373
Speaker 2: is just like Trump, a narcissist and it's all about him.

442
00:21:39,413 --> 00:21:42,133
Speaker 2: It's all transactional for him. Firstly, he hates the Big

443
00:21:42,173 --> 00:21:44,813
Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill only because it removes the subsidies for EV's.

444
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Speaker 2: That's been proven not to be true because he asked

445
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Speaker 2: for the removal of ev subsidies in the Trump campaign.

446
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Speaker 2: He said that they should not be there. He disagrees

447
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Speaker 2: with subsidies, so that's not true for someone that came

448
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Speaker 2: in with you two are ignorant to make a mistake

449
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Speaker 2: that quickly. That's easily provably wrong. He has no inventor.

450
00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:06,333
Speaker 2: Everything he owns is through buying the best ip and scientists.

451
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Speaker 2: That's also not true. He was right at the start

452
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Speaker 2: of X and right there at the start of Tesla.

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Speaker 2: You know, people say because he wasn't he was. There

454
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Speaker 2: was no Tesla, there wasn't even a prototype when he

455
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Speaker 2: joined Tesla, and he bought X to be his own

456
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Speaker 2: personal megaphone. Don't forget he fired all the moderators. That's

457
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Speaker 2: because he believes in free speech. So his principle you

458
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Speaker 2: may disagree, but his principle was free speech is very important.

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Speaker 2: That's why I fired the moderators. Fourth SpaceX is just

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Speaker 2: a vehicle to get his two thousand children and the

461
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Speaker 2: best scientists to mars Well, that one's probably true.

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Speaker 3: That's someone that clearly does not like Elon Muss no

463
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Speaker 3: matter what he does.

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Speaker 2: And we say, but we are ignorant. I am, I am,

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Speaker 2: I am ignorant of many things.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call Sun j.

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Speaker 12: What's your thoughts?

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Speaker 13: The different point obviously his principle man, but there's also

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Speaker 13: common sense. Now there's two hundred members plus in the

471
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Speaker 13: in the system over there. They're all one piece of

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Speaker 13: the play.

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Speaker 10: So black.

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Speaker 13: All the Republicans have said not it wants give what

475
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Speaker 13: they want to do this, but it keeps them the

476
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Speaker 13: test cuts because if the test cuts going in, want

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Speaker 13: an America has.

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Speaker 3: Now some jay just you you're just cracking up a

479
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Speaker 3: little bit. It sounds like there's a bit happening in

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Speaker 3: the background. Do you on a speaker phone, Yeah, ye'll

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Speaker 3: just speaker phone carry on.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So yeah, obviously there's comment he has ever got

483
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Speaker 13: to consent. He's not going to get what he wants, obviously,

484
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Speaker 13: just like some of the I know, like some of

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Speaker 13: the other centers in Congressman, they want, but they're not

486
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Speaker 13: going to give what they want. So that's why it's

487
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Speaker 13: called the Big Beautiful Book, because not one's going to

488
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Speaker 13: give what they want. But it ensures test cuts bought

489
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Speaker 13: Americans because I'm pretty sure nobody else wants to be

490
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Speaker 13: putting any more than they have before for anything.

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Speaker 12: Basically.

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Speaker 2: So, so you think you think Mark is would you

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Speaker 2: say that one of his flaws as a lack of

494
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Speaker 2: ability to compromise, Well, it's.

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Speaker 13: Politics, man, tans I mean, who's the movie get new

496
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Speaker 13: for you?

497
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Speaker 14: What's all the time?

498
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Speaker 13: You know, I'm not said, that's a breath. And obviously

499
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Speaker 13: he's given up rock to to help the president and

500
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Speaker 13: forget him, Uh President Trump, he got shocked. They tried

501
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Speaker 13: to bankrupt them, They tried to they try to put

502
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Speaker 13: him and all that stuff and just on theis just

503
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Speaker 13: for that person to commented before if that was true

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Speaker 13: that he was in the st philes. Don't you think

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Speaker 13: that Democrats would have absolutely used that.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I think Elon's walked back those comments,

507
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Speaker 2: and you know that the lawyer the last talk to

508
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Speaker 2: Epstein has sort of put the point I think that

509
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Speaker 2: was that was rage. That was a rage tweet there

510
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Speaker 2: from Elon that one. But I agree with you on

511
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Speaker 2: that one. But you know, if you're if you're Elon

512
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Speaker 2: Musk Sanjay and you believe that debt as Americas is

513
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Speaker 2: on the fast fact to debt slavery, and you believe

514
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Speaker 2: that is an existential crisis for the American economy and

515
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Speaker 2: Western civilization, do you think the fact that it's protected

516
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Speaker 2: the Big Beautiful birl is projected to increase debt between

517
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Speaker 2: two points three a trillion to five trillion over ten years.

518
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Speaker 2: Can you see how that might aggravate Elon there?

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Speaker 13: You guys, Come on, you guys. You're not going to

520
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Speaker 13: just flip everything over and in like the first and

521
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Speaker 13: obviously comes there for four years. You're not not not

522
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Speaker 13: going to have everything happened at one time.

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Speaker 15: That true, that's true, yeah, politics, But.

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Speaker 3: From my point of view, Son James, it's not. It's

525
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Speaker 3: not even about the big beautiful bill whatever. And clearly

526
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Speaker 3: you're in support of that, that's fair enough too, But

527
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Speaker 3: it's more about Elon Musker's principles himself. So he is

528
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Speaker 3: not a big fan of this bill because he thinks

529
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Speaker 3: it adds to the debt level. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 3: whether you agree with that principal or not, he's stuck

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Speaker 3: to that principle at the at his detriment because now

532
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Speaker 3: he's upset Donald Trump's camp. He's probably upset you as

533
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Speaker 3: maybe as a former supporter. He's upset the left in

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Speaker 3: a previous life.

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Speaker 13: He's done a good job. I'm not going to go

536
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Speaker 13: I'm not going to knock for what he's done his company.

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Speaker 13: He's he's basically done like nobody else in government. And

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Speaker 13: your history is buible to come and cut and was like,

539
00:26:09,493 --> 00:26:11,133
Speaker 13: if you even hurt half the stuff they were paying

540
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Speaker 13: out money to you. I'm in the half four years

541
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Speaker 13: in the last business. Let's not say obviously yesterday give

542
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Speaker 13: it up to him. But again, man, this is political.

543
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Speaker 13: You're not gonna always get what you want, especially in

544
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Speaker 13: the first round. And they're trying to bring this saliation

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Speaker 13: what it was called. When he's taken all their savings,

546
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Speaker 13: they're trying to put into law. So obviously there has

547
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Speaker 13: to be a bit of a help. And obviously if

548
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Speaker 13: he's deleted all his post then obviously it was just

549
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Speaker 13: a bit of a hit up moment. He was just

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Speaker 13: heeded me. Obviously he's come down, probably switch the joint

551
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Speaker 13: and figured out.

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Speaker 2: He might have woken up the next morning and go, god,

553
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Speaker 2: what I went. But I think he's done that. He's

554
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Speaker 2: done that a lot of times in his career, hasn't

555
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Speaker 2: he The one thing is keeping his thoughts to himself

556
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Speaker 2: has not been a big part of his career.

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Speaker 13: I could just say I'm one hundred percent Donald Trump,

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Speaker 13: President Trump for supported thank you.

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Speaker 3: I mean up, I'm being honest. That's what I can't

560
00:27:07,413 --> 00:27:13,013
Speaker 3: figure out about Musk as I loved his story around SpaceX.

561
00:27:13,093 --> 00:27:15,253
Speaker 3: That was a phenomenal story and people said it couldn't

562
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Speaker 3: be done, and he did it for the reason that

563
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Speaker 3: you said was we need a planet b that he

564
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Speaker 3: was so worried about what was going to happen here

565
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Speaker 3: to Earth that he needed that company to get up

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Speaker 3: to Mars and establish another colony, which is fantastic. But

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Speaker 3: then the the Elon musk that I see on Twitter,

568
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Speaker 3: and that's what people love about him, right, is that

569
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Speaker 3: you what you see is what you get. There's no

570
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Speaker 3: hide in a way like other politicians or other you

571
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Speaker 3: know people are the tech leaders in the world, they

572
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Speaker 3: tend to have a pr version of them that they portray.

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Speaker 3: But still I love a lot of what he does.

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Speaker 3: And then he sends through a tweet and I think, oh, Elon,

575
00:27:53,853 --> 00:27:56,013
Speaker 3: come on, but that part of his charm.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's chaos. It's absolute chaos. You mentioned the

577
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Speaker 2: people at SpaceX, you know, the people working hard at

578
00:28:02,813 --> 00:28:06,053
Speaker 2: SpaceX company he's supposed to be running, and then he

579
00:28:06,133 --> 00:28:11,613
Speaker 2: threatens to shut down the Dragon. Yeh, it's like, come on,

580
00:28:12,133 --> 00:28:15,253
Speaker 2: you know to the guy that's you know, instrumental in

581
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Speaker 2: the funding. But I mean, you know, If you actually

582
00:28:19,053 --> 00:28:22,133
Speaker 2: want to know what really started this feud, A lot

583
00:28:22,213 --> 00:28:25,533
Speaker 2: of it is because Trump shut down What's the guy's

584
00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:28,573
Speaker 2: name is, Jared Isaacman. I might have got that name wrong,

585
00:28:28,613 --> 00:28:31,653
Speaker 2: who was a very close friend of Elon, wanted to

586
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Speaker 2: be the head of NASA, And because the Trump administration

587
00:28:35,253 --> 00:28:38,533
Speaker 2: found out that he had received some Democratic donations, that

588
00:28:38,653 --> 00:28:40,613
Speaker 2: he just cut him out. And so that made Elon

589
00:28:40,733 --> 00:28:43,693
Speaker 2: incredibly angry that from what he had done, what he

590
00:28:43,773 --> 00:28:45,973
Speaker 2: thought he had done for Trump, then he'd been paid

591
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Speaker 2: back by them refusing to put his guy in charge

592
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Speaker 2: of NASA. Right, Okay, on what was what he thought

593
00:28:53,013 --> 00:28:56,253
Speaker 2: was spurious political reasons.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 2: So it's complicated.

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Speaker 3: It is complicated, but love to hear from you. O

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: And this text is really what we're trying to say.

599
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Speaker 2: A principle is not a principle unless it costs you

600
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Speaker 2: something otherwise it's just words, right, And so Elon Musk's

601
00:29:12,013 --> 00:29:14,413
Speaker 2: backing of Trump, rightly or wrongly, cost him a lot

602
00:29:14,413 --> 00:29:16,573
Speaker 2: when it came to Tesla, didn't It certainly did YEP

603
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Speaker 2: and his popularity with the American people and the people

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 3: World one hundred percent. It is nineteen to two back

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Speaker 3: forvery shortly.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk, say'd

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Speaker 1: be here, Ay.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, sixteen two two. And we're talking about Elon

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Speaker 3: Musk and his principles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree, Matt. The definition of a principal person

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00:29:42,813 --> 00:29:45,013
Speaker 2: includes someone who has strong moral beliefs and acts with

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Speaker 2: fairness and responsibility. Having a number of children, with a

615
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Speaker 2: number of women and no relationship with some of them

616
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Speaker 2: is not morally right, nor responsible or fear to them.

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Speaker 2: You see, I would agree with you. That would be

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00:29:54,893 --> 00:29:58,293
Speaker 2: one of my principles. I think if you have children,

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Speaker 2: then you need to be part of their life. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: so I would agree with your principle there. But that's

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Speaker 2: not obviously not one of Elon Musk's principles. But is

622
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Speaker 2: willing to risk a lot for his principles. And one

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Speaker 2: of his principles is that we need to populate the world.

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Speaker 2: And so personally he's had fourteen kids, well he's been

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Speaker 2: involved in fourteen kids. Easy for a billionaire, yep, very

626
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Speaker 2: easy to have just blast out fourteen kids or you know,

627
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Speaker 2: be involved in forteen kids.

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Speaker 3: He can afford them, He can afford them. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously it's not one of his principles that

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Speaker 2: you need to be around and he seems to be

631
00:30:35,693 --> 00:30:38,453
Speaker 2: spending a lot of time with Little X, but it's

632
00:30:38,493 --> 00:30:40,653
Speaker 2: obviously not one of his principles that you need to

633
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Speaker 2: be around in every kid's life.

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Speaker 3: Yep, exactly in this text here is apparently Elon is

635
00:30:45,413 --> 00:30:48,933
Speaker 3: a savant, would explain his amazing mind, but he is

636
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:52,533
Speaker 3: not so hot on social skills. Ideas with unwavering obsession

637
00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:57,053
Speaker 3: can make it hard when that, oh, when others don't

638
00:30:57,093 --> 00:30:58,973
Speaker 3: believe in that particular vision that's from him.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's very interesting as how much the

640
00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:06,973
Speaker 2: you know, Hollywood has shifted on Elon Musk. He was

641
00:31:07,013 --> 00:31:11,253
Speaker 2: the absolute darling. He was on every show when he

642
00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:15,333
Speaker 2: was seemed to be aligned with Hollywood values and like,

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Speaker 2: for example, what about the episode of The Simpsons, The

644
00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 2: Musk Who Fell to Earth. The Simpson's a very left

645
00:31:21,933 --> 00:31:25,453
Speaker 2: leaning show. They used to absolutely love Elon Musk.

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00:31:26,773 --> 00:31:30,133
Speaker 3: It a being with intelligence far beyond ours. Give me

647
00:31:30,253 --> 00:31:36,213
Speaker 3: by baseball band, Hello, I'm Elon Musk. The pass to

648
00:31:36,253 --> 00:31:39,453
Speaker 3: be the greatest living inventor. You're the guy who put

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Speaker 3: wheels on luggage.

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Speaker 1: Bless you, bless you.

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Speaker 3: I'm not that guy. If you're interested, you could come

652
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Speaker 3: to the nuclear plant where I work tomorrow. I am,

653
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Speaker 3: and I will if anyone ask where I am, just

654
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Speaker 3: cover for me. Man, I wish those were white meatballs.

655
00:31:53,493 --> 00:31:55,933
Speaker 3: That's an idea, white meatballs, synthetic meat that you can

656
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Speaker 3: print in your printer.

657
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Speaker 2: Come on, keep throwing things at me, but.

658
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Speaker 16: Sure you know who that is?

659
00:32:01,893 --> 00:32:03,733
Speaker 17: A man who's revolutionized the car industry.

660
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Speaker 2: Every food good to see it?

661
00:32:08,573 --> 00:32:10,693
Speaker 3: One thing too many? Exactly what if we made the

662
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Speaker 3: cream cup out of sugar so it dissolved in the coffee?

663
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Speaker 3: WHOA Between your genius and my nothing, we make a

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Speaker 3: great team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he probably won't be on The Simpsons again anytime.

666
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Speaker 3: So no, you know you've made it when you met

667
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Speaker 3: on the Jade.

668
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 18: Yay?

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Speaker 9: How are we going?

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Speaker 3: Very good? What's your thoughts?

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Speaker 19: Look, I've been following Mask and I guess while US

673
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Speaker 19: politics fans for a couple of years now. In one

674
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Speaker 19: of the podcasts I look forward through every weekend as

675
00:32:38,413 --> 00:32:41,893
Speaker 19: they are on podcast, there has potentially four billion years

676
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Speaker 19: that are now very very close to Washington.

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Speaker 3: Funny enough, Sorry, what was that?

678
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Speaker 20: So?

679
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Speaker 2: What was that podcast called Jade? I just missed that.

680
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Speaker 21: Sorry, the all In podcasts All In podcast the number one. Yeah,

681
00:32:55,813 --> 00:32:56,293
Speaker 21: funny enough.

682
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Speaker 19: They didn't release an episode last weekend, as I probably

683
00:32:58,773 --> 00:33:00,933
Speaker 19: think they're probably under the damage control at the moment,

684
00:33:00,973 --> 00:33:04,773
Speaker 19: and they're both very close to Trump and must However,

685
00:33:04,933 --> 00:33:07,013
Speaker 19: I guess what's all this sort of going on? I

686
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:10,253
Speaker 19: suppose the question to ask, is you know with you know,

687
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Speaker 19: I guess a special company that must have formed in

688
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Speaker 19: order to create such large donations to lobby the government.

689
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Speaker 19: It just goes to show, I guess the level of

690
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Speaker 19: potential corruption that could happen when the private state or

691
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Speaker 19: private sector gets involved with the public sector. Now, don't

692
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Speaker 19: get me wrong very for what Doge and what Elin

693
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Speaker 19: have done with the current current administration, but it seems

694
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Speaker 19: as Fiord's been laying on a whole bunch of laying

695
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Speaker 19: on a whole bunch of favors and expectations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as I was saying before, the person

697
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Speaker 2: that being appointed to NASA has been a big sticking

698
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Speaker 2: point for him, So you could look at it that way.

699
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Speaker 2: That he thought he would have more influence in that

700
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Speaker 2: area than he did for what he spent. Yeah, and

701
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Speaker 2: that is a problem, isn't it If you can, if

702
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Speaker 2: you can buy influence, which, of course American politics is

703
00:34:05,453 --> 00:34:08,652
Speaker 2: all about buying influence, isn't it with the super acts.

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Speaker 21: Well, yes, that's correct.

705
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Speaker 22: Hasn't always been that.

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Speaker 19: Way, And you know the way that the US government

707
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Speaker 19: set up, you know, the split of power between Congress,

708
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Speaker 19: the Senate, and the administration branch's supposed to have be

709
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Speaker 19: a power check, but it's seemingly that the private sector

710
00:34:24,693 --> 00:34:27,413
Speaker 19: is getting more and more influenced, which you know should

711
00:34:27,493 --> 00:34:29,573
Speaker 19: should be removed from politics to sitt degree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but is that I mean, there's always been, as

714
00:34:34,453 --> 00:34:36,933
Speaker 3: you say, Matt, there's always been lobbying behind the scenes.

715
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Speaker 3: And there's a couple of very famous brothers in America

716
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Speaker 3: who never talked to journalists, theak Brothers. Yeah, so they

717
00:34:42,653 --> 00:34:44,533
Speaker 3: never talk to journalists. They keep their head down and

718
00:34:45,133 --> 00:34:47,653
Speaker 3: for you know, smart reasons, because they don't want to

719
00:34:47,693 --> 00:34:49,853
Speaker 3: be known. But they spend a massive amount of money

720
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Speaker 3: lobbying and getting people elected in America.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of billionaires on both sides. Isn't

722
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Speaker 2: there this cuban on the other side principles and morals?

723
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Speaker 2: He's an eccentric got sucked in t Trump who has neither,

724
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Speaker 2: and when the liaison hit his businesses, he bowed not

725
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Speaker 2: worth worth talking about Only in America. I think it's

726
00:35:05,453 --> 00:35:08,253
Speaker 2: absolutely worth talking about him, thoroughly enjoying the chat, as

727
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Speaker 2: is the huge amount of people texting and calling through

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Speaker 2: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I think this is

729
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Speaker 2: a good text. Hey, guys, is elon the Prince that

730
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Speaker 2: principle about populating the earth or is he just using

731
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Speaker 2: it as an excuse to be a keyless shagger?

732
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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, I'm not convinced all of those impregnations are

734
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Speaker 2: happening in.

735
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Speaker 3: Just to keep the population high.

736
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Speaker 2: No, this is a real test tube vibe to the

737
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Speaker 2: way he's true populating the world.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

739
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Speaker 3: love your thoughts. It is ten to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

741
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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams. Afternoons

742
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Speaker 1: News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks, EDB it is eight to two and we're

744
00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:55,493
Speaker 3: talking about Elon Musk.

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00:35:55,733 --> 00:35:57,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if people really got to the

746
00:35:58,653 --> 00:36:01,333
Speaker 2: got the understanding what we were trying to say. Elon

747
00:36:01,413 --> 00:36:03,933
Speaker 2: Musk has principles that's clear, whether you agree with them

748
00:36:04,013 --> 00:36:05,973
Speaker 2: or not. He is willing to sacrifice a lot for

749
00:36:06,053 --> 00:36:10,493
Speaker 2: those principles, and hence his current arguments with Trump around

750
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Speaker 2: debt in America and the big beautiful Bill. But you know,

751
00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:17,212
Speaker 2: he's willing to spend a lot more than Twitter's worth

752
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Speaker 2: because he believed in free speech.

753
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Speaker 3: But look, there's anything to do with Elon and Trump.

754
00:36:23,573 --> 00:36:27,413
Speaker 3: It's hard to discuss nuance. It inflames people when you

755
00:36:27,573 --> 00:36:30,373
Speaker 3: say those two names, and difficult to get it to

756
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Speaker 3: the nuance of a discussion.

757
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Speaker 2: Love the conversation. Hey guys, most people don't know, but

758
00:36:33,533 --> 00:36:36,093
Speaker 2: Tesla is lining up for a global transport solution that

759
00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:38,933
Speaker 2: sell self driving cars that can be used privately. But

760
00:36:39,013 --> 00:36:40,973
Speaker 2: when you are not using your car, you can nominate

761
00:36:41,013 --> 00:36:43,893
Speaker 2: the car to be self driving taxi service. If you're

762
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Speaker 2: an uber driver, expect that within five to ten years

763
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Speaker 2: you will no longer have a job. Elon has a

764
00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:51,253
Speaker 2: big plan for transport on the adoption of AI and

765
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Speaker 2: given his mind, he will achieve it. Elon Musk is

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Speaker 2: definitely a candidate, says this text, for to be the Antichrist.

767
00:36:58,973 --> 00:37:01,413
Speaker 2: The telling point will be if he rules the world.

768
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Speaker 2: As per predictions of the Antichrist during the Biblical Tribulations,

769
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Speaker 2: the Antichrist is predicted to rule the world for three

770
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Speaker 2: and a half years. All right, there you go. So

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00:37:09,973 --> 00:37:13,053
Speaker 2: there's some varying opinions here, yep, Elon, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Elon wanted the Dome Defense contract so he could learn

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Speaker 2: how to take the entire world hostage and rule the world.

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Speaker 3: Yes, wow, okay, okay, well this one here, geta guys.

775
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Speaker 3: The work Elon has started with Doge is amazing, and

776
00:37:27,573 --> 00:37:30,773
Speaker 3: the Dems hate him for what's going to happen soon enough. Yes,

777
00:37:31,053 --> 00:37:33,613
Speaker 3: he is principal because he was a Dem himself but

778
00:37:33,733 --> 00:37:35,533
Speaker 3: didn't like what they were doing. That's from John.

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00:37:35,893 --> 00:37:38,573
Speaker 2: I hope they sought things out between him. However, Elon

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Speaker 2: is a spurges Donald Trump, Whon, a landslade Victorian is

781
00:37:41,253 --> 00:37:44,773
Speaker 2: implementing everything he can came on. According to Zebbi's favorite Sourcena,

782
00:37:45,373 --> 00:37:47,813
Speaker 2: Trump's ratings are right up there over fifty five percent,

783
00:37:47,893 --> 00:37:51,692
Speaker 2: while the Dems are lower than ever before. Cheers Dave, Yes,

784
00:37:51,973 --> 00:37:55,933
Speaker 2: so so many man Elon. If one does nothing, that's interesting.

785
00:37:56,013 --> 00:37:58,053
Speaker 2: If one does nothing, then you will never do wrong.

786
00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:01,453
Speaker 2: If you do lots, bound to get a few moments wrong. Also,

787
00:38:01,973 --> 00:38:05,253
Speaker 2: we all see right differently. I mean, that's kind of

788
00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:07,493
Speaker 2: my point. My point is you might not agree with

789
00:38:07,573 --> 00:38:10,173
Speaker 2: his principles, but he definitely is willing to sacrifice a

790
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Speaker 2: lot for them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you very much for that discussion. Very interesting,

792
00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:16,973
Speaker 3: and thank you to the hundreds who takes through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we couldn't get to everyone. Good so much

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Speaker 2: absolutely so much feedback. But we're going to put this

795
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Speaker 2: topic to bed.

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Speaker 3: We certainly are because after two o'clock, and this is

797
00:38:26,653 --> 00:38:30,373
Speaker 3: going to be an interesting discussion. Gen X's they are

798
00:38:30,613 --> 00:38:33,733
Speaker 3: worried about their jobs. They're having to upskill and change

799
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Speaker 3: careers later in life because of technology coming into the

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Speaker 3: creative industry. So we want to have a chat to

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Speaker 3: you about when you change careers, how did you do it?

802
00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:44,093
Speaker 3: How did your upskill? The weight hundred?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and is gen X the best generation?

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00:38:46,893 --> 00:38:50,093
Speaker 3: I think we are. I think we are millennials, someone said,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's what I am. Not quite millennial,

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00:38:51,933 --> 00:38:53,693
Speaker 3: not quite gen x bang in the middle.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were a boomer.

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Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty feel like it. Sometimes it

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Speaker 3: is five minutes to two back very shortly. Here on Newstalks,

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Speaker 3: it'd be.

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Speaker 18: And I'm too pussy, and then I'm just going clean.

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Speaker 18: Told me to get a job, and yours a lie anything,

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Speaker 18: and I'm too perve, so I open lighting loud.

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Speaker 1: I want to be me and that not a loud,

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Speaker 1: and I'm too lad.

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Speaker 18: And then I'm just saying you hate it when I'm

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Speaker 18: crying that that time fun and I'm too pert.

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Speaker 2: So I'll show you that I'm known a thousand people

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Speaker 2: like a leaving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt

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Speaker 1: Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons used.

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Speaker 23: Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 3: It is seven past two and this hour is going

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Speaker 3: to be very very interesting. But before we get that,

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Speaker 3: I saw you eating something.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say what a great New Zealand to

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Speaker 2: hear the duper c Ellen it's already Not only is

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Speaker 2: she the Sir Paul Holmes broadcast of the year, but

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Speaker 2: she also bought a bucket of KFC into it.

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Speaker 3: A massive bucket of checking for her and her team,

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Speaker 3: and she I didn't even think.

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Speaker 8: It was for her.

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Speaker 3: It was just for her team.

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Speaker 2: I hope some of it was for me because I

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Speaker 2: grabbed something that maybe it wasn't for me.

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Speaker 3: I think the offer was on the table, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: I'm part of her team, aren't they? But I was

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Speaker 2: blund part of the wider z B team. If there's

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Speaker 2: a bucket of KFC, I'm allowed.

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Speaker 3: To some chicken for one check for all? I say?

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Speaker 3: But what blew me away? And people who listen to

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Speaker 3: Heather's show. No one of her producers, she calls the

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Speaker 3: German Laura. She's very very good, never tried KFC in

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Speaker 3: her life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, positive reviews too.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So if there's any sort of technical hitch ups, hiccups

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Speaker 2: this ideas because of putting greasy fingers all over the

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Speaker 2: my cost moral studio.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Mike, it's not going to be happy with that.

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Speaker 2: So much grease on the buttons.

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Speaker 3: I can see it dripping on the disk as well. Right, anyway,

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Speaker 3: this is going to be a good discussion changing careers.

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00:41:37,733 --> 00:41:39,813
Speaker 3: So gen x is are the latest generation to find

856
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Speaker 3: themselves having to change careers or upskill and new areas

857
00:41:43,453 --> 00:41:47,693
Speaker 3: because of new technology. So creative careers like advertising, magazine, publishing,

858
00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:51,853
Speaker 3: graphic design, music, film, TV, et cetera. They are fast changing.

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00:41:51,933 --> 00:41:54,173
Speaker 3: We all know that, and workers are finding their skills

860
00:41:54,173 --> 00:41:57,053
Speaker 3: are becoming obsolescent. So that's what we want to have

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Speaker 3: a chat about.

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Speaker 2: Is obsolete in a word? Just before I jump onto

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Speaker 2: the before nine nine two, skew as you obsolete? Did

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Speaker 2: you mean their careers becoming obsolescent? No, that is definitely

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Speaker 2: a word. That's the become obsolescent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, becoming obsolete. Sorry, they are obsolescent.

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00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:16,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, their jobs are becoming obsolete nine two nine two.

868
00:42:16,773 --> 00:42:19,933
Speaker 2: Someone will three of us personifying their jobs. If you're

869
00:42:19,933 --> 00:42:23,093
Speaker 2: saying they're becoming obsoletent obsolescent anyway, doesn't.

870
00:42:22,853 --> 00:42:26,493
Speaker 3: It are their skills becoming obsolete. And that's what we

871
00:42:26,573 --> 00:42:28,493
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about. But you also want

872
00:42:28,533 --> 00:42:30,533
Speaker 3: to back up your generation. You are ANIXA.

873
00:42:30,693 --> 00:42:33,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about the Gen X generation

874
00:42:33,173 --> 00:42:35,573
Speaker 2: as a whole, because I think we're an incredible generation.

875
00:42:35,973 --> 00:42:39,373
Speaker 2: I think that like we battled through having to smoke

876
00:42:39,413 --> 00:42:41,893
Speaker 2: cigarettes right through our late teens and through our twenties

877
00:42:41,933 --> 00:42:45,053
Speaker 2: because we were really the last generation to really lean

878
00:42:45,093 --> 00:42:45,733
Speaker 2: into cigarette.

879
00:42:45,893 --> 00:42:46,573
Speaker 3: Do we thank you for that?

880
00:42:46,813 --> 00:42:50,413
Speaker 2: Is that that's a possible before they became too expensive. Also,

881
00:42:51,173 --> 00:42:53,293
Speaker 2: the food pyramid was round the wrong way for us.

882
00:42:53,773 --> 00:42:56,172
Speaker 2: That was confusing, absolutely round the wrong way. We were

883
00:42:56,173 --> 00:42:59,053
Speaker 2: stitched up. It was if you were eating mac and cheese,

884
00:42:59,533 --> 00:43:04,213
Speaker 2: you you were basically a dietary hero when I was

885
00:43:04,253 --> 00:43:08,172
Speaker 2: growing up, a huge pile of white bread, butter and jam. Yeah,

886
00:43:08,213 --> 00:43:12,573
Speaker 2: you were basically living the absolute most pure, clean living life.

887
00:43:12,973 --> 00:43:15,093
Speaker 2: And if you wash that down with a glass of RaRo,

888
00:43:15,253 --> 00:43:17,333
Speaker 2: that was your that was your fruit. Yah, and you

889
00:43:17,413 --> 00:43:19,893
Speaker 2: were fine. It kept you going though, didn't that's wild.

890
00:43:19,893 --> 00:43:21,133
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a good school and

891
00:43:21,173 --> 00:43:24,053
Speaker 2: it can go. And we grew up with no internet

892
00:43:24,333 --> 00:43:26,813
Speaker 2: and no cell phones, yep, and so we remember an

893
00:43:26,853 --> 00:43:30,893
Speaker 2: era before that. We we we rode the change. And

894
00:43:31,413 --> 00:43:34,053
Speaker 2: I just think that we are the greatest generation of

895
00:43:34,173 --> 00:43:37,772
Speaker 2: all time, the best movies ever made in our time,

896
00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:42,093
Speaker 2: the best. That's about it.

897
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:44,813
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think, Hey, Citizen King was pretty good.

898
00:43:44,933 --> 00:43:48,173
Speaker 3: That's right up there, Citizen generation.

899
00:43:48,373 --> 00:43:50,813
Speaker 2: You can stick rose, but up you whatever.

900
00:43:51,613 --> 00:43:53,613
Speaker 3: So O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

901
00:43:53,893 --> 00:43:55,213
Speaker 3: if you want to have a bit of a generation

902
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:56,093
Speaker 3: will We're up for it.

903
00:43:56,213 --> 00:43:58,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not really what we're talking about. We

904
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:00,733
Speaker 2: want to talk about changing careers and are you worried

905
00:44:00,733 --> 00:44:05,093
Speaker 2: about it? Have you managed to successfully change careers as

906
00:44:05,373 --> 00:44:09,093
Speaker 2: as your career has either become obsolete or not financially

907
00:44:09,293 --> 00:44:13,692
Speaker 2: viable anymore? You know, where are you at? And look,

908
00:44:14,053 --> 00:44:16,813
Speaker 2: I think I think right now gen X straddled a

909
00:44:16,933 --> 00:44:20,413
Speaker 2: really really huge change, and I think there's about to

910
00:44:20,493 --> 00:44:22,413
Speaker 2: be We're in the middle of another massive change with

911
00:44:23,013 --> 00:44:25,692
Speaker 2: the AI revolution as well, Yeah, which is taking away

912
00:44:25,813 --> 00:44:26,773
Speaker 2: more and more jobs.

913
00:44:27,053 --> 00:44:28,893
Speaker 3: Because how do you figure out what skill to go for?

914
00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:32,853
Speaker 3: I think that's the tough element now is where do

915
00:44:32,933 --> 00:44:35,453
Speaker 3: you upskill what is going to be a skill that

916
00:44:35,973 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 3: is almost future proof? That's the real difficult thing at

917
00:44:38,413 --> 00:44:40,653
Speaker 3: the moment, right is. I know a lot of friends

918
00:44:40,733 --> 00:44:43,813
Speaker 3: who they are a bit over their career and they

919
00:44:43,893 --> 00:44:46,053
Speaker 3: can foresee that it's not going to be around forever.

920
00:44:46,173 --> 00:44:48,133
Speaker 3: So they want to change and they want to upskill,

921
00:44:48,213 --> 00:44:50,613
Speaker 3: maybe even go back to UNI, but they can't figure

922
00:44:50,613 --> 00:44:53,093
Speaker 3: out what to do. So love to hear from you. Oh,

923
00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:55,213
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

924
00:44:55,253 --> 00:44:59,773
Speaker 3: call if you've managed to change career. In your thirties, forties, fifties,

925
00:44:59,893 --> 00:45:01,653
Speaker 3: What did you change into how did you do it?

926
00:45:02,093 --> 00:45:04,093
Speaker 3: And if you've managed to upskill, how did you go

927
00:45:04,173 --> 00:45:04,533
Speaker 3: about that?

928
00:45:04,853 --> 00:45:05,053
Speaker 2: Yeah?

929
00:45:05,253 --> 00:45:07,533
Speaker 3: Yeap, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

930
00:45:07,533 --> 00:45:08,172
Speaker 3: to call. It's twelve.

931
00:45:08,773 --> 00:45:10,693
Speaker 2: Can you change careers in your fifties?

932
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:17,333
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call,

933
00:45:17,493 --> 00:45:20,133
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty gen eighty news Talk said, be.

934
00:45:22,533 --> 00:45:24,973
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, Tue fourteen past two. And we're talking

935
00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 3: about changing careers later in life in your forties or fifties.

936
00:45:28,613 --> 00:45:31,172
Speaker 3: A lot of Gen X are looking to do that now.

937
00:45:31,253 --> 00:45:35,613
Speaker 3: They are in jobs where their skills are becoming obsolete

938
00:45:36,093 --> 00:45:38,293
Speaker 3: more and more and are now having to look at

939
00:45:38,373 --> 00:45:41,013
Speaker 3: upskilling and changing career. So really keen to have a

940
00:45:41,093 --> 00:45:42,773
Speaker 3: chat to you if you've been in that situation. Oh,

941
00:45:42,813 --> 00:45:46,493
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Plenty of teps coming

942
00:45:46,613 --> 00:45:50,172
Speaker 3: through this one, says Matt. We were, as in Gen

943
00:45:50,413 --> 00:45:52,533
Speaker 3: X as the last generation to know what boredom was

944
00:45:52,853 --> 00:45:55,253
Speaker 3: and how to navigate by doing stupid stuff like jumping

945
00:45:55,293 --> 00:45:56,253
Speaker 3: anything on a bicycle.

946
00:45:56,653 --> 00:46:00,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. Boredom is a superpower. If

947
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:01,853
Speaker 2: you can get bored and will motivate you to do

948
00:46:01,973 --> 00:46:04,893
Speaker 2: great things. Yeah, I think it was a huge advantage

949
00:46:04,933 --> 00:46:07,493
Speaker 2: growing up as I did on the farm. I mean

950
00:46:07,573 --> 00:46:09,613
Speaker 2: I used to I'm not want to just tell these

951
00:46:09,653 --> 00:46:12,333
Speaker 2: boring old stories. But on the on the farm, we

952
00:46:12,413 --> 00:46:15,173
Speaker 2: had a big forest, right, and I was so bored

953
00:46:15,253 --> 00:46:18,413
Speaker 2: that I'd push my BMX up the scravel road. It

954
00:46:18,453 --> 00:46:20,772
Speaker 2: would take me an hour and a half to push

955
00:46:20,813 --> 00:46:22,373
Speaker 2: it up the road, and then I'd ride it down

956
00:46:22,413 --> 00:46:26,413
Speaker 2: through the trees like I was on in Star Wars,

957
00:46:26,973 --> 00:46:28,293
Speaker 2: and then I'd turn around and push it all the

958
00:46:28,293 --> 00:46:28,772
Speaker 2: way up again.

959
00:46:28,853 --> 00:46:28,973
Speaker 15: Right.

960
00:46:29,053 --> 00:46:30,373
Speaker 3: It sounds like a fun ride on the way down.

961
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:31,853
Speaker 2: That was an amazing ride, But there was a lot

962
00:46:31,893 --> 00:46:33,413
Speaker 2: of effort to get back up every time. And I'd

963
00:46:33,453 --> 00:46:37,093
Speaker 2: do that all day every day. And I think now

964
00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:39,253
Speaker 2: if I grew up, the entertainment would be too good

965
00:46:39,293 --> 00:46:40,772
Speaker 2: and I would just be on my phone.

966
00:46:40,853 --> 00:46:41,493
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly.

967
00:46:41,573 --> 00:46:45,013
Speaker 2: So it's actually actually a pretty that that being able

968
00:46:45,053 --> 00:46:47,172
Speaker 2: to be bored was actually you don't know it at

969
00:46:47,213 --> 00:46:48,973
Speaker 2: the time, but that is actually a real blessing.

970
00:46:49,093 --> 00:46:50,933
Speaker 3: I agree. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty CE

971
00:46:51,053 --> 00:46:51,373
Speaker 3: number to.

972
00:46:51,413 --> 00:46:56,293
Speaker 2: Call Malcolm, Welcome to the show. Oh, sorry, their phone's

973
00:46:56,293 --> 00:46:58,252
Speaker 2: still not working properly. Malcolm. Welcome to the show.

974
00:46:59,173 --> 00:47:03,933
Speaker 12: How are you going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So

975
00:47:04,293 --> 00:47:10,172
Speaker 12: my question that I put to the Fall was upskilling

976
00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:15,692
Speaker 12: is not necessarily everyone's what everyone wants, you know, in fact,

977
00:47:16,373 --> 00:47:19,893
Speaker 12: down skilling, but just taking on it easier responsibility is

978
00:47:20,173 --> 00:47:23,373
Speaker 12: sometimes has a lot of health benefits if nothing else.

979
00:47:23,653 --> 00:47:26,413
Speaker 12: You know, the high stress, high pressure jobs are not

980
00:47:26,613 --> 00:47:27,853
Speaker 12: everyone's cup of tea.

981
00:47:27,973 --> 00:47:30,533
Speaker 3: It's a fair point, is that what you did, Malcolm.

982
00:47:31,493 --> 00:47:35,413
Speaker 12: Well, I used to run a engineering workshop was you know,

983
00:47:35,653 --> 00:47:38,053
Speaker 12: the boss was the only one above me, but it

984
00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:43,772
Speaker 12: was it was high pressure ish, not too bad. I'd

985
00:47:43,773 --> 00:47:45,493
Speaker 12: still do it now if the place hadn't gone under,

986
00:47:45,893 --> 00:47:46,853
Speaker 12: still be there.

987
00:47:47,333 --> 00:47:48,613
Speaker 3: But you know, I do know.

988
00:47:49,013 --> 00:47:50,933
Speaker 12: You know a lot of these people that are under

989
00:47:51,013 --> 00:47:53,173
Speaker 12: high pressure you think, why the hell do you do it?

990
00:47:53,373 --> 00:47:55,973
Speaker 12: And as far as money goes, you know a lot

991
00:47:56,013 --> 00:48:00,293
Speaker 12: of these brick layers for instance, even hammer hands, and

992
00:48:00,813 --> 00:48:03,773
Speaker 12: you know in the industry building that they end up

993
00:48:03,773 --> 00:48:05,973
Speaker 12: getting as much money as anyone else anyway. So it's

994
00:48:07,053 --> 00:48:08,253
Speaker 12: you know, and you can just go to work and

995
00:48:08,573 --> 00:48:10,652
Speaker 12: do your job and you've got a.

996
00:48:10,653 --> 00:48:13,613
Speaker 3: Wonder Yeah, it's still quite a transition though, Malcolm, isn't it.

997
00:48:13,653 --> 00:48:16,253
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with you that more and more

998
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:19,533
Speaker 3: people are looking at perhaps quite a stressful career in

999
00:48:19,693 --> 00:48:21,773
Speaker 3: saying this is killing me and I need to get

1000
00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:23,573
Speaker 3: out of this and going to do something that doesn't

1001
00:48:23,573 --> 00:48:25,933
Speaker 3: pay as much. It might have better hours, but that's

1002
00:48:25,973 --> 00:48:29,133
Speaker 3: still a transition to make in terms of a career.

1003
00:48:29,253 --> 00:48:31,373
Speaker 3: It might not be technically upskilling, but you've got to

1004
00:48:31,493 --> 00:48:32,773
Speaker 3: lose some new skills.

1005
00:48:33,093 --> 00:48:36,493
Speaker 12: Oh definitely. And that's I think a lot of people

1006
00:48:36,573 --> 00:48:39,333
Speaker 12: might be well, actually, I've got a daughter at sixteen,

1007
00:48:39,413 --> 00:48:42,652
Speaker 12: and she's heading towards you Yukole at the moment, heading

1008
00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:46,133
Speaker 12: towards the building career. But she has actually had a

1009
00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:48,973
Speaker 12: lot of people disit and say, oh, why do you

1010
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:49,453
Speaker 12: want to do that?

1011
00:48:49,733 --> 00:48:49,893
Speaker 24: You know?

1012
00:48:50,893 --> 00:48:54,493
Speaker 12: But the thing with a builder's career as an engineer

1013
00:48:54,573 --> 00:48:58,053
Speaker 12: by trade, which was actually a very difficult trade to

1014
00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:01,373
Speaker 12: become a self employed person because it involved a lot

1015
00:49:01,373 --> 00:49:04,693
Speaker 12: of machinery builders with stuff in a van, you know,

1016
00:49:04,893 --> 00:49:08,093
Speaker 12: I know, not hundreds, but many builders, and that they

1017
00:49:08,133 --> 00:49:11,613
Speaker 12: can in quite good money and employee people quite easily.

1018
00:49:12,013 --> 00:49:14,172
Speaker 12: And I think that's another thing. That's what I've told

1019
00:49:14,173 --> 00:49:16,813
Speaker 12: the daughter to look at it, because she can you know,

1020
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:18,173
Speaker 12: she's a lot, so you don't want to do that.

1021
00:49:18,173 --> 00:49:19,533
Speaker 12: You end up with a broken back and all that

1022
00:49:19,573 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 12: sort of stuff. But I just see it as a

1023
00:49:22,493 --> 00:49:23,973
Speaker 12: good thing that you can employ someone.

1024
00:49:24,293 --> 00:49:27,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, speak speaking of stress though, I think you know,

1025
00:49:27,493 --> 00:49:30,413
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of friends that you know, run

1026
00:49:30,493 --> 00:49:34,693
Speaker 2: construction companies or you know small you know, small building operations,

1027
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:39,093
Speaker 2: and the stress that they go through. I marvel that

1028
00:49:39,173 --> 00:49:42,973
Speaker 2: they survive. But you know, as jobs blow out and

1029
00:49:43,373 --> 00:49:46,853
Speaker 2: the quoting and the having to decide whether you're going

1030
00:49:46,933 --> 00:49:48,732
Speaker 2: to take this job, because a whole lot of jobs

1031
00:49:48,773 --> 00:49:50,933
Speaker 2: can be coming in, but you sometimes have to just

1032
00:49:51,013 --> 00:49:53,573
Speaker 2: make that hardcore and not take that big money because

1033
00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:55,853
Speaker 2: you've got to finish the job you're doing. And you know,

1034
00:49:55,973 --> 00:49:58,613
Speaker 2: the pressure that comes from employing people and worrying about

1035
00:49:58,693 --> 00:50:02,573
Speaker 2: keeping them working. And I think that is that that

1036
00:50:02,693 --> 00:50:06,213
Speaker 2: can be a very high, high pressure position to be in.

1037
00:50:07,053 --> 00:50:09,453
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's probably a different level. I'm thinking just that

1038
00:50:09,573 --> 00:50:11,213
Speaker 12: the one man band type. You know, I know a

1039
00:50:11,253 --> 00:50:13,253
Speaker 12: lot of people to build their own houses. So the

1040
00:50:13,373 --> 00:50:16,613
Speaker 12: biosection build a house and you know, it's cut and dried,

1041
00:50:16,693 --> 00:50:19,413
Speaker 12: really and as far as I'm pouring people that they

1042
00:50:19,493 --> 00:50:22,773
Speaker 12: get people on labor only sort of thing, and you know,

1043
00:50:23,333 --> 00:50:25,373
Speaker 12: they sort of pay their own tax and that sort

1044
00:50:25,373 --> 00:50:29,053
Speaker 12: of stuff, and that's sort of easy as far as

1045
00:50:29,093 --> 00:50:30,893
Speaker 12: I can see. I have done it myself a bit

1046
00:50:31,533 --> 00:50:34,813
Speaker 12: building project lot a lot easier than going to the man,

1047
00:50:34,893 --> 00:50:35,373
Speaker 12: that's for sure.

1048
00:50:35,653 --> 00:50:38,493
Speaker 2: So just just sewing Malcolm, what generation are you?

1049
00:50:39,933 --> 00:50:42,053
Speaker 12: Uh, I'm sixty.

1050
00:50:43,253 --> 00:50:45,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think you just sneak in on Gen

1051
00:50:45,293 --> 00:50:48,413
Speaker 3: X outer end of gen X. Yeah, I say that

1052
00:50:48,573 --> 00:50:49,333
Speaker 3: was love, Malcolm.

1053
00:50:50,133 --> 00:50:55,292
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I personally probably would have rather

1054
00:50:55,453 --> 00:50:58,253
Speaker 12: been I don't know if I was eighty now, I

1055
00:50:58,293 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 12: probably would have been in a better working environment. You know,

1056
00:51:02,853 --> 00:51:05,653
Speaker 12: you go back a bit further, things are easier, you know,

1057
00:51:05,813 --> 00:51:09,613
Speaker 12: especially with the evaluation of everything just going skyrocket. If

1058
00:51:09,613 --> 00:51:12,413
Speaker 12: you go probably go back thirty years really when things

1059
00:51:12,453 --> 00:51:13,413
Speaker 12: were accessible more.

1060
00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 2: You just don't want to go back so far that

1061
00:51:15,453 --> 00:51:19,413
Speaker 2: you end up fighting in the trenches. That's the track. Yeah,

1062
00:51:19,773 --> 00:51:22,613
Speaker 2: definitely not thank if you call me, I can appreciate it.

1063
00:51:22,693 --> 00:51:24,573
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1064
00:51:24,653 --> 00:51:26,853
Speaker 3: call if you've changed careers later in life. Love to

1065
00:51:26,893 --> 00:51:27,973
Speaker 3: hear from you. How did you do it?

1066
00:51:28,253 --> 00:51:28,373
Speaker 11: Was it?

1067
00:51:29,013 --> 00:51:31,212
Speaker 3: I mean, it must be scary That's what I'm thinking

1068
00:51:31,253 --> 00:51:33,293
Speaker 3: here with some of these stories about the Gen x's

1069
00:51:33,293 --> 00:51:35,133
Speaker 3: who are having to change careers now that they've done

1070
00:51:35,173 --> 00:51:37,813
Speaker 3: the one job for all of their career, and now

1071
00:51:37,893 --> 00:51:41,573
Speaker 3: they're faced with being effectively forced to find a new job, right,

1072
00:51:41,653 --> 00:51:45,173
Speaker 3: a new career and upskill. That's a frightening position to be.

1073
00:51:45,253 --> 00:51:47,692
Speaker 2: In with a mortgage hanging over your head. You're still

1074
00:51:47,733 --> 00:51:51,453
Speaker 2: looking supporting your children, you know, and then the career

1075
00:51:51,493 --> 00:51:53,893
Speaker 2: you've been in just disappears in a puff of smoke.

1076
00:51:54,053 --> 00:51:56,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you managed to navigate that. Love to hear

1077
00:51:56,333 --> 00:51:58,653
Speaker 3: from you. Oh eight hundred eighty teen eighty is the

1078
00:51:58,733 --> 00:52:00,613
Speaker 3: number to call twenty past two.

1079
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:08,172
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight hundred

1080
00:52:09,133 --> 00:52:10,172
Speaker 1: on news Talk ZV.

1081
00:52:10,493 --> 00:52:13,333
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about changing careers later in life.

1082
00:52:13,693 --> 00:52:16,613
Speaker 3: Gen X is the latest generation to have to face that.

1083
00:52:16,973 --> 00:52:19,413
Speaker 3: Many of them have been in the same creative jobs

1084
00:52:19,533 --> 00:52:22,173
Speaker 3: for most of their working life, and now, due to

1085
00:52:22,253 --> 00:52:25,053
Speaker 3: technology and the changing nature of those industries, they're faced

1086
00:52:25,093 --> 00:52:28,053
Speaker 3: with having to change jobs and upskills. I love to

1087
00:52:28,093 --> 00:52:29,933
Speaker 3: hear from you on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1088
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:32,413
Speaker 3: quick text to you, guys. I'm about to turn forty

1089
00:52:32,493 --> 00:52:34,933
Speaker 3: and just starting a job getting back on the horse

1090
00:52:35,013 --> 00:52:38,413
Speaker 3: after being made redundant seven months ago. It seems your

1091
00:52:38,453 --> 00:52:42,173
Speaker 3: path is formed once your past late thirties almost impossible

1092
00:52:42,213 --> 00:52:44,653
Speaker 3: to earn a scent outside of your usual industry.

1093
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:47,133
Speaker 2: Right at what age? Did they say that?

1094
00:52:47,373 --> 00:52:50,133
Speaker 3: Just about to turn forty? So they were made redundant

1095
00:52:50,173 --> 00:52:53,533
Speaker 3: seven months ago and they're saying it seems your path

1096
00:52:53,693 --> 00:52:57,213
Speaker 3: is formed once your past late thirties almost impossible to

1097
00:52:57,373 --> 00:52:59,333
Speaker 3: earn a scent outside of your usual industry.

1098
00:52:59,413 --> 00:53:01,373
Speaker 2: It's really tough to go one hundred and eighty ten

1099
00:53:01,453 --> 00:53:04,573
Speaker 2: eighty after forty Have you found a new career and

1100
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:06,093
Speaker 2: turn things around?

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00:53:06,253 --> 00:53:06,453
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1102
00:53:06,613 --> 00:53:07,733
Speaker 2: Michael Hill Jilla did?

1103
00:53:07,933 --> 00:53:08,613
Speaker 3: He said he did.

1104
00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:11,493
Speaker 2: Michael Hill Julia didn't start Michael held Jeweller's until he

1105
00:53:11,573 --> 00:53:12,333
Speaker 2: was in his forties.

1106
00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:13,933
Speaker 3: You've practiced that. That's very good.

1107
00:53:14,493 --> 00:53:17,172
Speaker 2: He's been very successful, isn't he? He has started at

1108
00:53:17,293 --> 00:53:20,733
Speaker 2: school at age forty seven after twenty five years civil engineering,

1109
00:53:20,773 --> 00:53:23,173
Speaker 2: took seven years working as a BT to Matt salary

1110
00:53:23,213 --> 00:53:25,933
Speaker 2: of twenty years earlier the UK forty seven.

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00:53:25,933 --> 00:53:27,773
Speaker 3: Love that Oh, eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1112
00:53:27,813 --> 00:53:28,853
Speaker 3: the number to call Ian?

1113
00:53:29,053 --> 00:53:36,053
Speaker 14: How are you okoday, guys. I'm now seventy two and

1114
00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:39,853
Speaker 14: two years ago my job was close to twenty three

1115
00:53:40,013 --> 00:53:46,773
Speaker 14: years became redundant due to restructure. Are used to sell advertising,

1116
00:53:47,613 --> 00:53:50,053
Speaker 14: but I actually all changed unders and new owner that

1117
00:53:50,133 --> 00:53:54,573
Speaker 14: owned it, and the change times don't good at Oh.

1118
00:53:54,973 --> 00:53:57,613
Speaker 14: I know, I got a technology the stars computers to

1119
00:53:57,693 --> 00:54:01,373
Speaker 14: concern the mouths of tools of my trade. And I

1120
00:54:01,533 --> 00:54:04,973
Speaker 14: was wholly successful at that for close to twenty three years.

1121
00:54:05,013 --> 00:54:07,893
Speaker 14: But that's all this three now, So there we go.

1122
00:54:08,533 --> 00:54:12,613
Speaker 3: I suppose and what age did you face that redundancy.

1123
00:54:12,173 --> 00:54:19,373
Speaker 14: In seventy or seventy one? The Christmas Christmas twenty twenty four?

1124
00:54:20,133 --> 00:54:20,293
Speaker 24: Was that?

1125
00:54:20,653 --> 00:54:23,413
Speaker 3: Was that hardman? I think yeah, yeah, And I think

1126
00:54:23,453 --> 00:54:26,373
Speaker 3: most most people would understanding that at seventy that would

1127
00:54:26,413 --> 00:54:30,133
Speaker 3: be hard to change careers or to upscale or to

1128
00:54:30,173 --> 00:54:32,413
Speaker 3: get into a different industry. I mean many many people

1129
00:54:32,533 --> 00:54:32,693
Speaker 3: do it.

1130
00:54:32,773 --> 00:54:36,853
Speaker 14: I'm not Yeah, that's right, you're on the button. I'm

1131
00:54:36,893 --> 00:54:39,653
Speaker 14: not going to get a job now. I have tried,

1132
00:54:40,493 --> 00:54:44,533
Speaker 14: but there's no one interested. So I mean, And Cristal

1133
00:54:44,653 --> 00:54:48,253
Speaker 14: was a follow for already newspaper, right he is, So

1134
00:54:49,733 --> 00:54:51,293
Speaker 14: I suppose and you have to accept it.

1135
00:54:51,853 --> 00:54:53,053
Speaker 24: But I.

1136
00:54:55,093 --> 00:54:58,573
Speaker 14: Was learning too lively. It was quite handy to put

1137
00:54:58,613 --> 00:55:00,813
Speaker 14: doubt it one or is bit harder but difficult?

1138
00:55:00,933 --> 00:55:01,093
Speaker 8: You know?

1139
00:55:01,533 --> 00:55:05,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely rough, Hey, fellas. At thirty eight years old,

1140
00:55:05,613 --> 00:55:08,053
Speaker 2: I joined the Fire and Emergency in New Zealand as

1141
00:55:08,053 --> 00:55:09,613
Speaker 2: a fire I fight. I previously owned a bar for

1142
00:55:09,693 --> 00:55:12,093
Speaker 2: fourteen years. Best decision I've ever made.

1143
00:55:11,933 --> 00:55:13,413
Speaker 3: That is fantastic, thirty eight years.

1144
00:55:13,453 --> 00:55:15,813
Speaker 2: So let's just work out exactly where gen X is

1145
00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:19,732
Speaker 2: what is jen x, because this is what we're talking

1146
00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:21,813
Speaker 2: about here. We want to talk to all generations. We're

1147
00:55:21,853 --> 00:55:24,652
Speaker 2: not We're not just exclusive to the millennials just as well,

1148
00:55:24,653 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 2: we're not just exclusive to the best generation yep, So

1149
00:55:27,053 --> 00:55:29,773
Speaker 2: we'll talk to other generations as well. Sixty five to

1150
00:55:29,893 --> 00:55:32,333
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. If you're born between sixty five and nineteen eighty,

1151
00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:35,253
Speaker 2: you are. You are a heroic gen xer.

1152
00:55:37,453 --> 00:55:42,413
Speaker 3: Pip, you had a bit of a change at fifty one, yes.

1153
00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:43,293
Speaker 22: Hi, I know.

1154
00:55:43,413 --> 00:55:47,453
Speaker 16: I was at banking forever like twenty plus years, and

1155
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:49,973
Speaker 16: then I am my business for a little while, and

1156
00:55:50,093 --> 00:55:52,613
Speaker 16: now I work as a wholesale on the signage industry

1157
00:55:52,653 --> 00:55:55,213
Speaker 16: and it's a completely new industry and I'm learning hate

1158
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:57,573
Speaker 16: and I love it. I probably love it more than

1159
00:55:57,573 --> 00:56:01,053
Speaker 16: I did thanking. It's great people, and I'm twenty one

1160
00:56:01,093 --> 00:56:02,973
Speaker 16: and I'm in the middle of menopause.

1161
00:56:03,013 --> 00:56:03,773
Speaker 7: I don't remember.

1162
00:56:03,613 --> 00:56:06,973
Speaker 16: Anything, but I'm learning hate from there. So these people

1163
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:09,933
Speaker 16: that are texting saying changed skills, they need to look

1164
00:56:09,973 --> 00:56:10,493
Speaker 16: at themselves.

1165
00:56:11,693 --> 00:56:14,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's pretty rough to give up at forty.

1166
00:56:14,933 --> 00:56:19,453
Speaker 2: I mean you should. I mean, Lewis Hamilton's over forty

1167
00:56:19,933 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 2: and he's still worsing. If won you know, you can't.

1168
00:56:24,533 --> 00:56:30,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wonder. Yeah, I'm just having a We

1169
00:56:30,213 --> 00:56:32,533
Speaker 3: look back at their texts and and you're right, they

1170
00:56:32,573 --> 00:56:35,933
Speaker 3: can absolutely learn new skills. But I wonder if they

1171
00:56:36,533 --> 00:56:38,692
Speaker 3: they say that they weren't given a fear go after

1172
00:56:38,773 --> 00:56:40,493
Speaker 3: forty did you find you were given a fear go

1173
00:56:40,693 --> 00:56:41,813
Speaker 3: when you wanted to jump through?

1174
00:56:42,813 --> 00:56:43,533
Speaker 16: Given a fear go?

1175
00:56:43,773 --> 00:56:44,133
Speaker 1: Totally?

1176
00:56:44,373 --> 00:56:46,013
Speaker 16: There was one hundred and ten people that applied to

1177
00:56:46,053 --> 00:56:48,693
Speaker 16: the job Widelife for I got it, so, you know,

1178
00:56:48,853 --> 00:56:50,933
Speaker 16: and I was up against people that were already from

1179
00:56:51,013 --> 00:56:53,453
Speaker 16: within the industry. So you've just got to back yourself.

1180
00:56:53,773 --> 00:56:57,813
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So, so Papa, I just missed. How come

1181
00:56:57,933 --> 00:56:59,333
Speaker 2: your banking career ended?

1182
00:57:00,213 --> 00:57:01,293
Speaker 16: Oh because I got sick of it?

1183
00:57:01,493 --> 00:57:03,093
Speaker 2: Oh, you got sick of it right, you were you were?

1184
00:57:03,133 --> 00:57:05,493
Speaker 2: You went moved on by technology or.

1185
00:57:05,533 --> 00:57:10,853
Speaker 16: Something totally by choice, Yeah, and just going to meetings

1186
00:57:10,933 --> 00:57:12,973
Speaker 16: and city like, I didn't love it anymore. I'd worked

1187
00:57:13,133 --> 00:57:16,173
Speaker 16: some incredible employers that are amazing, but when you fall

1188
00:57:16,213 --> 00:57:17,613
Speaker 16: out of love with it, you just kind of got

1189
00:57:17,653 --> 00:57:18,493
Speaker 16: to go and do something else.

1190
00:57:18,653 --> 00:57:21,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, And why signage? What drew you to signage?

1191
00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:26,053
Speaker 16: Oh god, it's a very long story, but I hasn't.

1192
00:57:26,093 --> 00:57:27,813
Speaker 16: I relocated and I went to it for a sign

1193
00:57:27,893 --> 00:57:31,053
Speaker 16: shop in the regions. They're an amazing employer. So when

1194
00:57:31,093 --> 00:57:33,213
Speaker 16: we came back to Auckland, I just wanted to stay

1195
00:57:33,293 --> 00:57:34,253
Speaker 16: within the same industry.

1196
00:57:34,453 --> 00:57:34,653
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1197
00:57:34,693 --> 00:57:37,573
Speaker 2: Good on your part. Appreciate it. Ladistixsas he graduated with

1198
00:57:37,613 --> 00:57:40,213
Speaker 2: a medical degree at thirty eight. Never too late.

1199
00:57:40,453 --> 00:57:43,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is phenomenal to go and get

1200
00:57:43,213 --> 00:57:45,213
Speaker 3: a medical degree in your in your thirties. But I

1201
00:57:45,253 --> 00:57:47,973
Speaker 3: suppose what's the average length of time to get a

1202
00:57:48,093 --> 00:57:51,813
Speaker 3: medical degree about eight years? So if you started at thirty,

1203
00:57:51,933 --> 00:57:52,573
Speaker 3: is that about right?

1204
00:57:52,933 --> 00:57:53,093
Speaker 7: Wow?

1205
00:57:53,533 --> 00:57:55,413
Speaker 2: Takes ages, boy boy.

1206
00:57:55,493 --> 00:57:57,573
Speaker 3: If you want to specialize, then then it blows out

1207
00:57:57,613 --> 00:57:58,093
Speaker 3: of it, doesn't it.

1208
00:57:58,453 --> 00:58:01,453
Speaker 2: My dad was still at union when he's thirty. Yeah,

1209
00:58:01,653 --> 00:58:05,293
Speaker 2: but he did a lot of different upscaling of as.

1210
00:58:05,613 --> 00:58:07,733
Speaker 2: I think he might have got two PhDs anyway.

1211
00:58:07,493 --> 00:58:08,253
Speaker 3: Right, okay, that's a lot.

1212
00:58:08,933 --> 00:58:12,133
Speaker 2: Hey guys at age forty six, I got made redundant

1213
00:58:12,173 --> 00:58:14,733
Speaker 2: from agricultural retail. Have been X raying bags at the

1214
00:58:14,733 --> 00:58:16,133
Speaker 2: airport for nineteen years.

1215
00:58:16,373 --> 00:58:17,213
Speaker 3: Right, do you like it?

1216
00:58:17,533 --> 00:58:20,613
Speaker 2: Got as agricultural retail into X raying bags?

1217
00:58:20,733 --> 00:58:24,333
Speaker 3: Okay? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty found anything cool? Yeah,

1218
00:58:24,533 --> 00:58:26,653
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1219
00:58:27,053 --> 00:58:30,413
Speaker 3: I've got a text here that I've just spotted or

1220
00:58:30,413 --> 00:58:34,613
Speaker 3: read it out after the headline slightly controversial, but we'll

1221
00:58:34,653 --> 00:58:37,133
Speaker 3: get to that very shortly. Headlines with rayling coming up.

1222
00:58:37,213 --> 00:58:39,453
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at this. This is yeah, we'll read

1223
00:58:39,493 --> 00:58:39,733
Speaker 2: that out.

1224
00:58:39,813 --> 00:58:41,613
Speaker 3: Slightly nasty as a career in who.

1225
00:58:45,373 --> 00:58:45,853
Speaker 7: You talk?

1226
00:58:45,933 --> 00:58:47,253
Speaker 1: Said the headlines with.

1227
00:58:47,373 --> 00:58:50,413
Speaker 11: Blue bubble taxis, it's no trouble with a blue bubble

1228
00:58:50,893 --> 00:58:55,373
Speaker 11: climate Activists turned Palestine supporter Greta Turnberg says her aide

1229
00:58:55,413 --> 00:58:58,813
Speaker 11: Flatterda to Gaza, has been kidnapped by Israel.

1230
00:58:59,333 --> 00:59:00,653
Speaker 2: She's posted a video.

1231
00:59:00,493 --> 00:59:04,493
Speaker 11: Begging supporters to precious Sweden's government to secure their release.

1232
00:59:05,653 --> 00:59:09,133
Speaker 11: A christ Church corporal accused of covertly filming women during

1233
00:59:09,253 --> 00:59:13,093
Speaker 11: sexual encounters. Has pleaded not guilty in a court martial today,

1234
00:59:13,413 --> 00:59:17,373
Speaker 11: claiming he had consent. A thirty nine year old man's

1235
00:59:17,413 --> 00:59:20,693
Speaker 11: turned himself into police and been charged over an alleged

1236
00:59:20,773 --> 00:59:24,293
Speaker 11: hit and run on Auckland's north shore yesterday in which

1237
00:59:24,333 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 11: two women and their dogs were injured. Protests continue into

1238
00:59:28,253 --> 00:59:31,853
Speaker 11: a third day in La over raids and deportations of

1239
00:59:32,013 --> 00:59:36,853
Speaker 11: undocumented migrants. Video showing car's burning in the streets. Donald

1240
00:59:36,893 --> 00:59:41,213
Speaker 11: Trump sent in two thousand National Guard troops. The Reserve

1241
00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:46,733
Speaker 11: Banks again delayed releasing explanations over former Governor Adriannall's abrupt

1242
00:59:46,933 --> 00:59:51,493
Speaker 11: departure in March, Why charities tax got kicked into touch

1243
00:59:51,933 --> 00:59:54,293
Speaker 11: and what it means for New Zealand. You can find

1244
00:59:54,293 --> 00:59:56,933
Speaker 11: out more at Anzet Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

1245
00:59:56,973 --> 00:59:58,013
Speaker 11: Eath and Tyler Adams.

1246
00:59:58,093 --> 01:00:00,453
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about changing careers

1247
01:00:00,573 --> 01:00:03,493
Speaker 3: later in life, in your forties or fifties, or indeed

1248
01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:06,053
Speaker 3: in your late thirties as well. Gen ex As are

1249
01:00:06,093 --> 01:00:08,973
Speaker 3: the latest generation to be facing that I've worked the

1250
01:00:09,133 --> 01:00:11,853
Speaker 3: same job for most of their career, and creative industries

1251
01:00:12,133 --> 01:00:17,733
Speaker 3: like magazine publishing newspaper, journalism, photography, graphic design, advertising, music, film, TV,

1252
01:00:18,013 --> 01:00:20,733
Speaker 3: et cetera. And now because of technology and the fast

1253
01:00:20,813 --> 01:00:23,533
Speaker 3: changing nature of those industries, they are having to face

1254
01:00:23,733 --> 01:00:27,533
Speaker 3: upskilling and changing careers and it's very difficult for a

1255
01:00:27,573 --> 01:00:29,253
Speaker 3: lot of people. So if you've navigated that'd love to

1256
01:00:29,293 --> 01:00:30,573
Speaker 3: hear from you on Oh eight one hundred and eighty

1257
01:00:30,613 --> 01:00:31,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty I have.

1258
01:00:32,093 --> 01:00:34,333
Speaker 2: Till the end of last year, I was a breakfast

1259
01:00:34,893 --> 01:00:37,893
Speaker 2: music radio host for eleven years and now look at you.

1260
01:00:38,053 --> 01:00:39,853
Speaker 2: Oh now, I've moved one hundred meters to a mic

1261
01:00:39,933 --> 01:00:43,853
Speaker 2: upstairs for I'm a news talk zb talkback cast.

1262
01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:45,933
Speaker 3: You have had a lot of jobs in your life though, Man.

1263
01:00:45,853 --> 01:00:47,893
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was just writing a list of my jobs.

1264
01:00:48,333 --> 01:00:53,093
Speaker 2: I might I might share those, Yes, I might. Dave welcome, Dave,

1265
01:00:53,693 --> 01:00:55,933
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. How are you How? You doing

1266
01:00:56,733 --> 01:00:59,373
Speaker 2: very good? Better since we've heard from you, Dave, of

1267
01:00:59,493 --> 01:01:00,973
Speaker 2: course you have, of course you are.

1268
01:01:02,013 --> 01:01:05,493
Speaker 21: Hey, Hey, look I've had I had a ton of jobs.

1269
01:01:05,533 --> 01:01:09,213
Speaker 22: Man, I'm sixty four now and I've had I've had

1270
01:01:09,293 --> 01:01:10,733
Speaker 22: fantastic careers.

1271
01:01:11,933 --> 01:01:12,093
Speaker 21: You know.

1272
01:01:12,133 --> 01:01:15,893
Speaker 22: I started my recal career eight years ago and it's

1273
01:01:15,893 --> 01:01:18,973
Speaker 22: been fantastic, and it's fantastic and but I you know,

1274
01:01:19,653 --> 01:01:22,693
Speaker 22: early two thousands, I've spoken around the world on yachts

1275
01:01:22,733 --> 01:01:26,813
Speaker 22: and cruise ships, and you know, my philosophy in life

1276
01:01:26,853 --> 01:01:29,773
Speaker 22: has always been live your life for like a cocktail straw,

1277
01:01:30,253 --> 01:01:33,853
Speaker 22: you know, be able to flex and bend. And you

1278
01:01:33,933 --> 01:01:36,853
Speaker 22: see the problem is with a lot of men, particularly

1279
01:01:36,893 --> 01:01:39,253
Speaker 22: men in New Zealand and Australia and a lot of places,

1280
01:01:39,853 --> 01:01:42,893
Speaker 22: we get tied in, We get we get warriored hard

1281
01:01:42,973 --> 01:01:45,533
Speaker 22: into this this mindset where we can't.

1282
01:01:45,653 --> 01:01:48,533
Speaker 7: We can't move around, we can't be like a cocktail straw.

1283
01:01:49,093 --> 01:01:52,213
Speaker 22: And life is too bloody short to not to not

1284
01:01:52,493 --> 01:01:57,613
Speaker 22: be out there and enjoying what there is, you know,

1285
01:01:57,693 --> 01:02:00,853
Speaker 22: the on offer, and there's tons of things on offer, mate,

1286
01:02:00,893 --> 01:02:03,733
Speaker 22: don't limit yourself. I mean, you know, I just I've

1287
01:02:03,813 --> 01:02:06,173
Speaker 22: just enjoyed my life. But I left scot fifteen was

1288
01:02:06,173 --> 01:02:08,973
Speaker 22: a farm cadet and I've gone a thousand miles from

1289
01:02:09,013 --> 01:02:09,333
Speaker 22: that now.

1290
01:02:09,453 --> 01:02:10,493
Speaker 10: But you know I had loved it.

1291
01:02:10,973 --> 01:02:14,133
Speaker 22: But I'm in a totally different world corporate blah blah blah.

1292
01:02:14,213 --> 01:02:17,933
Speaker 22: But you know, you know I'm still going, mate, I'll

1293
01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:19,293
Speaker 22: just care, carry on and.

1294
01:02:21,133 --> 01:02:21,493
Speaker 25: Enjoy it.

1295
01:02:21,653 --> 01:02:24,693
Speaker 3: It's a good attitude. Dave but you know, thinking about

1296
01:02:24,853 --> 01:02:27,533
Speaker 3: my own situation some of my friends. When you've been

1297
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Speaker 3: in the same industry for most of your career, it's

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Speaker 3: it's shit scary to think about doing something different, you know,

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Speaker 3: because you are. You have got to think about am

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Speaker 3: I gonna have enough money? Am I going to bring

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Speaker 3: enough money in to support my family? Am I going

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Speaker 3: to be able to pay the mortgage? You know, all

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01:02:44,013 --> 01:02:47,293
Speaker 3: those things that you've got responsibility for later in life.

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01:02:47,653 --> 01:02:50,413
Speaker 3: To then think about changing career or doing something different,

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01:02:50,893 --> 01:02:54,973
Speaker 3: that's a massive consideration, isn't it. It is, it is, Tyler.

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Speaker 22: But look, look end of the day, my friend, it's

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Speaker 22: all you know, your oxygen mask has got to be

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Speaker 22: on first, and that is the truism of life. If

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Speaker 22: your oxygen mask is not on, if you're not looking

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Speaker 22: after yourself and you and it sounds a bit selfish,

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01:03:07,533 --> 01:03:10,133
Speaker 22: but dude, you've got to You've got to do what's

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01:03:10,213 --> 01:03:12,373
Speaker 22: right for you, because if you're not doing what's right

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01:03:12,453 --> 01:03:15,533
Speaker 22: for you, and that that means changing your job, changing

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01:03:15,573 --> 01:03:18,773
Speaker 22: the color of your here, whatever, then no one around

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Speaker 22: you is going to benefit from that.

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Speaker 15: Family.

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Speaker 21: Your friends, I mean, mortgage.

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Speaker 22: Payments, all that sort of stuff. They can all all

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Speaker 22: be resolved really easily, you know, but we get stuck

1320
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Speaker 22: into this trap.

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Speaker 21: I've got to be this person I've got to be.

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01:03:33,333 --> 01:03:35,453
Speaker 22: I've got to be you know, the father figure, the

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01:03:35,973 --> 01:03:38,973
Speaker 22: boyfriend or whatever the case may be. But end of

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Speaker 22: the day, you've got in life. You've got to do

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Speaker 22: what's what, what really motivates you, what excites you, and

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Speaker 22: what is it all about you? Then your your family,

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Speaker 22: your mom, your dad, your kids, whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 22: they will benefit from that. And stick your oxygen mask

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01:03:55,453 --> 01:03:59,053
Speaker 22: on first, mate, and you know, you know that's the

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Speaker 22: way life should be.

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Speaker 2: Just describe exactly what do you mean by stick your

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Speaker 2: oxygen mask on first, grig.

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Speaker 22: So so you know, think about think about when you

1334
01:04:09,693 --> 01:04:12,013
Speaker 22: get on a plane when they tell you to put

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Speaker 22: your oxygen mask on first before you put your children's.

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Speaker 22: And the reason for that is obvious, right you can't.

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01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,173
Speaker 22: You're not good to anyone if you're not safe, if

1338
01:04:22,213 --> 01:04:24,693
Speaker 22: you're not breathing, if you're not you know, like, if

1339
01:04:24,733 --> 01:04:27,053
Speaker 22: that life force is not going through you, and that

1340
01:04:27,853 --> 01:04:30,693
Speaker 22: that you strapolate that out to your life you're living

1341
01:04:31,173 --> 01:04:34,093
Speaker 22: because if your oxygen mask is not on, who the

1342
01:04:34,253 --> 01:04:35,373
Speaker 22: hell is going to benefit?

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Speaker 3: I love that you know, Yeah, good analogy that I

1344
01:04:38,653 --> 01:04:38,893
Speaker 3: love that.

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Speaker 22: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: So I'm writing a book.

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Speaker 22: It's called The Oxygen Mark Theory. It'll be out shortly

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Speaker 22: all good bookstores.

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Speaker 3: I yeah, very good. In some cocktail straw analogies in

1350
01:04:50,133 --> 01:04:51,973
Speaker 3: there as well. Place you can you can you stretch

1351
01:04:52,013 --> 01:04:54,853
Speaker 3: that out to two undred eighty eight pages made.

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Speaker 21: I've got made do it. You can do war and please.

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01:04:58,853 --> 01:05:01,573
Speaker 2: Thank you're called Greg. I mean be a cocktail straw.

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01:05:02,853 --> 01:05:03,733
Speaker 2: Oh was that Dave?

1355
01:05:03,893 --> 01:05:04,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: My phone was telling me Greg. Yeah, sorry, Dave.

1357
01:05:07,453 --> 01:05:09,933
Speaker 3: Sorry Dave. The phone system is doing something crazy today.

1358
01:05:10,253 --> 01:05:11,933
Speaker 2: And I love Dave and I've called him Greg.

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01:05:12,133 --> 01:05:14,453
Speaker 3: He's still there. He accepts it, dn't you Dave?

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Speaker 10: Dave?

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Speaker 2: Mate, I'm sorry I called you Greg.

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01:05:17,733 --> 01:05:19,133
Speaker 20: You can call me Bob if you want.

1363
01:05:19,453 --> 01:05:23,133
Speaker 3: Okay, Bob, we'll get you on, get you on each Monday. Dave,

1364
01:05:23,253 --> 01:05:24,813
Speaker 3: you're just full of full of positive energy.

1365
01:05:25,093 --> 01:05:26,293
Speaker 2: I'm going to get the name right from when the

1366
01:05:26,333 --> 01:05:28,093
Speaker 2: book comes out, so I know no to buy.

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Speaker 22: It, said brother.

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Speaker 2: Yea, all right, dahnd be a cocktail straw. But you've

1369
01:05:33,653 --> 01:05:36,373
Speaker 2: got to ask who's sucking on the straw. That's the

1370
01:05:36,413 --> 01:05:37,653
Speaker 2: most important question in life.

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01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:39,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're just going to have to Readay's book, aren't you.

1372
01:05:39,773 --> 01:05:41,453
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1373
01:05:41,573 --> 01:05:43,653
Speaker 3: number to call if you've changed career later in life.

1374
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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you.

1375
01:05:44,453 --> 01:05:48,413
Speaker 2: Twenty one to three, the issues that affect you, and

1376
01:05:48,613 --> 01:05:49,853
Speaker 2: a bit of fun along the way.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons ECUs Talk said, be.

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Speaker 2: It is nineteen to three, So we're talking about gen

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Speaker 2: X and the changes that are happening to careers for

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01:06:00,613 --> 01:06:04,813
Speaker 2: gen X's as AI comes in. Technology changes can be

1381
01:06:04,933 --> 01:06:08,613
Speaker 2: very different from what you started studying in the nine tease,

1382
01:06:08,653 --> 01:06:11,093
Speaker 2: the way you started your career. Now, I'm gonna play

1383
01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:16,893
Speaker 2: some audio here, which is the ultimate gene X movie audio?

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01:06:17,373 --> 01:06:17,533
Speaker 3: Right?

1385
01:06:17,733 --> 01:06:20,413
Speaker 2: Are you ready for it? A radio from nineteen ninety nine.

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01:06:21,213 --> 01:06:25,493
Speaker 26: God damn it? An entire generation pumping gags, waiting tables,

1387
01:06:26,413 --> 01:06:30,213
Speaker 26: the slaves with white collars. Advertising has just chasing cars

1388
01:06:30,293 --> 01:06:33,333
Speaker 26: and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy

1389
01:06:33,373 --> 01:06:37,693
Speaker 26: shit we don't need for the middle children of history man.

1390
01:06:38,573 --> 01:06:43,293
Speaker 24: No purpose of place. We have, no great war, no

1391
01:06:43,413 --> 01:06:46,853
Speaker 24: great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our

1392
01:06:46,933 --> 01:06:47,653
Speaker 24: great depression.

1393
01:06:48,573 --> 01:06:51,933
Speaker 26: It's our lives all been raised on television to believe

1394
01:06:51,973 --> 01:06:54,493
Speaker 26: that one day we'd all be millionaires in movie gods

1395
01:06:54,573 --> 01:06:55,373
Speaker 26: and rock stars.

1396
01:06:56,133 --> 01:06:56,733
Speaker 21: But we won't.

1397
01:06:58,093 --> 01:06:59,453
Speaker 2: We're slowly learning that fact.

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01:07:01,213 --> 01:07:03,613
Speaker 24: We're very, very pissed off.

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01:07:04,373 --> 01:07:07,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great monologue.

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01:07:07,773 --> 01:07:10,013
Speaker 2: That's right. Fight Club, what a great movie, one of

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01:07:10,053 --> 01:07:12,253
Speaker 2: my favorite of all time, and also a great book

1402
01:07:12,253 --> 01:07:15,173
Speaker 2: from Chack pollionac. But yeah, I mean that's that sum up.

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01:07:15,253 --> 01:07:18,813
Speaker 2: The gen X's the middle, the middle children of history, A.

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01:07:18,813 --> 01:07:24,613
Speaker 3: Little bit last, little bit angry. The number to call Greg,

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01:07:24,733 --> 01:07:25,413
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Shaw.

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01:07:26,533 --> 01:07:28,613
Speaker 21: You know, guys meet You can call me Dave if

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01:07:28,653 --> 01:07:28,853
Speaker 21: you want.

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01:07:28,933 --> 01:07:31,973
Speaker 2: I don't mind, Well, thanks for calling Dave.

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01:07:35,213 --> 01:07:37,413
Speaker 21: Scooled in the late eighties and went to the printing

1410
01:07:37,493 --> 01:07:41,933
Speaker 21: industry and man, what well changes that sort of went

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01:07:42,013 --> 01:07:44,693
Speaker 21: over the years and end up owning my own finding

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01:07:45,253 --> 01:07:50,373
Speaker 21: factory for commercial printers. So yeah, and the and the

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01:07:50,453 --> 01:07:53,453
Speaker 21: two thousands of global financial classis certain my factory, I

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01:07:53,573 --> 01:07:57,493
Speaker 21: had thirty eight printers that were companies commercial printers, and

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01:07:57,613 --> 01:08:00,213
Speaker 21: six months later he was ten of them left because

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01:08:00,253 --> 01:08:04,133
Speaker 21: of the just technology and the destination of Yeah, it

1417
01:08:04,333 --> 01:08:07,693
Speaker 21: was just just the printing industry teamed upside down and

1418
01:08:07,733 --> 01:08:09,813
Speaker 21: the big boys bought the little boys, and.

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01:08:09,893 --> 01:08:11,733
Speaker 20: The work just slowly it dried up.

1420
01:08:11,933 --> 01:08:15,893
Speaker 21: And one of our biggest jobs was so when you

1421
01:08:16,093 --> 01:08:17,933
Speaker 21: when your company was a certain size, you had to

1422
01:08:17,973 --> 01:08:20,733
Speaker 21: print five hundred in your reports to give to all

1423
01:08:20,733 --> 01:08:22,933
Speaker 21: the shareholders and things like that. And that was probably

1424
01:08:23,013 --> 01:08:26,213
Speaker 21: seventy five percent of our work. And one day the

1425
01:08:26,293 --> 01:08:28,173
Speaker 21: poloitician turned up and said, you don't have to do

1426
01:08:28,293 --> 01:08:29,652
Speaker 21: that anymore. They're going online.

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01:08:30,213 --> 01:08:34,053
Speaker 2: Right, just just did you have any incline that that

1428
01:08:34,452 --> 01:08:37,053
Speaker 2: was coming that did did you see this coming down

1429
01:08:37,093 --> 01:08:37,412
Speaker 2: the train?

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01:08:38,492 --> 01:08:40,372
Speaker 21: You could sort of know it was going to happen

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01:08:40,452 --> 01:08:43,013
Speaker 21: one day, but it happened so fast. Yeah, that was

1432
01:08:43,532 --> 01:08:46,093
Speaker 21: that was ridiculous. You know, didn't really have time to

1433
01:08:47,053 --> 01:08:49,333
Speaker 21: plan for it so much. But I managed to hang

1434
01:08:49,412 --> 01:08:51,133
Speaker 21: on for a while, but sort of hit to start

1435
01:08:51,173 --> 01:08:53,612
Speaker 21: thinking about what I can do. So I decided I

1436
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Speaker 21: needed to do something that I enjoy. And I was

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01:08:55,173 --> 01:08:57,133
Speaker 21: always good with my hands, always good at woodworking and

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01:08:57,213 --> 01:08:59,173
Speaker 21: things like that. So I just ended up buying a

1439
01:08:59,412 --> 01:09:03,213
Speaker 21: handyman franchise and now I just sort of suck in

1440
01:09:03,253 --> 01:09:05,173
Speaker 21: my own houses. I flipped on for everybody else and

1441
01:09:05,253 --> 01:09:07,333
Speaker 21: sort of really enjoy it. Get time to listen to

1442
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Speaker 21: you guys, and my headphone Ronald Day and put around

1443
01:09:10,572 --> 01:09:13,932
Speaker 21: helping people. So it sort of worked out at the end.

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01:09:14,253 --> 01:09:15,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, so did with that?

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01:09:15,532 --> 01:09:19,173
Speaker 2: Was that a that would have been a financial hit though?

1446
01:09:19,333 --> 01:09:21,892
Speaker 2: Was it so a financial a spiritual game.

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01:09:23,492 --> 01:09:26,933
Speaker 21: Exactly? I had I sold up the company for a

1448
01:09:27,053 --> 01:09:31,412
Speaker 21: dollar basically minister all my debts, working for one of

1449
01:09:31,452 --> 01:09:33,133
Speaker 21: the big companies for a few years to just sort

1450
01:09:33,173 --> 01:09:36,772
Speaker 21: of re establish myself and then yeah, I mean you

1451
01:09:36,853 --> 01:09:38,732
Speaker 21: can make good money doing what I do now if

1452
01:09:38,772 --> 01:09:41,293
Speaker 21: you're if you're good, you've go to work really really hard.

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Speaker 7: Was it not so good?

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01:09:45,692 --> 01:09:50,213
Speaker 21: Yeah, from all the years in the factory, but we're no,

1455
01:09:50,333 --> 01:09:51,772
Speaker 21: I'm enjoying it. I really enjoy it.

1456
01:09:52,013 --> 01:09:52,133
Speaker 11: Was it?

1457
01:09:52,333 --> 01:09:55,653
Speaker 3: Was it a risk originally? Great to buy the franchise,

1458
01:09:55,732 --> 01:09:57,372
Speaker 3: which I imagine is a bit of capital, so a

1459
01:09:57,412 --> 01:09:59,972
Speaker 3: bit of savings invested in there. You're not quite sure

1460
01:10:00,013 --> 01:10:01,932
Speaker 3: initially how it's going to go. That must have been

1461
01:10:02,492 --> 01:10:05,133
Speaker 3: quite a bit of nerves when you first died that.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, but I've been sort of being self and and

1463
01:10:08,772 --> 01:10:10,972
Speaker 21: so just been self employed most of my life. It's

1464
01:10:10,973 --> 01:10:13,932
Speaker 21: always new, you know, when you're living on the head.

1465
01:10:14,053 --> 01:10:16,732
Speaker 21: So to be honest, I didn't have the cash, but

1466
01:10:16,812 --> 01:10:19,013
Speaker 21: I just put it on the mortgage just when house

1467
01:10:19,053 --> 01:10:21,652
Speaker 21: prices started to go up, so I had a bit

1468
01:10:21,692 --> 01:10:23,333
Speaker 21: of capital in the house. I just dropped on that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Now tell you what, though, Greg, to

1470
01:10:26,532 --> 01:10:28,492
Speaker 2: be a handyman, you have to be handy, and I

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Speaker 2: fear for a lot of people, a lot of gen

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01:10:30,692 --> 01:10:33,732
Speaker 2: X is when people stop being handy. Most boom boomers

1473
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:38,652
Speaker 2: are pretty handy. Less gen xs are millennials absolutely useless,

1474
01:10:39,093 --> 01:10:42,572
Speaker 2: uh and and zoomers or whatever. So few of them

1475
01:10:42,652 --> 01:10:46,692
Speaker 2: can could could transition to helping people fix their houses

1476
01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:49,213
Speaker 2: from whatever career they're now because I've just never would

1477
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Speaker 2: have learnt those basic skills.

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Speaker 21: I'm just old enough. We are like here. I tied

1479
01:10:55,253 --> 01:10:58,133
Speaker 21: its third form typing, and then in the fourth form

1480
01:10:58,253 --> 01:11:00,612
Speaker 21: was the first of a year that computer studies came out.

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Speaker 2: Typing class.

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01:11:06,893 --> 01:11:07,293
Speaker 14: I wasn't.

1483
01:11:07,372 --> 01:11:10,652
Speaker 21: I was just where you hit to fetch stuff for yourself.

1484
01:11:10,853 --> 01:11:13,972
Speaker 21: Yeah you know you didn't really rely on too many people,

1485
01:11:14,133 --> 01:11:16,893
Speaker 21: didn't You concorded your own driveway, which I did. My

1486
01:11:16,973 --> 01:11:19,293
Speaker 21: fruous house I either bought, I played eighty eight green time,

1487
01:11:19,372 --> 01:11:23,412
Speaker 21: I think, and sort of the shell and then you

1488
01:11:23,532 --> 01:11:25,612
Speaker 21: build everything around it where now you buy a whole

1489
01:11:25,612 --> 01:11:28,812
Speaker 21: complete house. And yeah, people wouldn't know what end of

1490
01:11:28,853 --> 01:11:30,532
Speaker 21: a concert. Much of it was from the other So

1491
01:11:31,093 --> 01:11:32,812
Speaker 21: I think I was lucky in that regard. But you're

1492
01:11:32,812 --> 01:11:33,532
Speaker 21: still gonna be handy.

1493
01:11:33,853 --> 01:11:34,692
Speaker 10: Yeah, what you're doing.

1494
01:11:35,293 --> 01:11:38,452
Speaker 3: Good demand out there for that, Greg Yeah, absolutely, this

1495
01:11:38,652 --> 01:11:40,492
Speaker 3: text to see is okay, guys. I used to manage

1496
01:11:40,492 --> 01:11:42,852
Speaker 3: a tire store, even won a few awards for sales.

1497
01:11:42,893 --> 01:11:44,812
Speaker 3: But three years ago, at the age of fifty seven,

1498
01:11:44,853 --> 01:11:47,372
Speaker 3: after thirty two years, I'd had a guts full of

1499
01:11:47,412 --> 01:11:49,492
Speaker 3: being told how to do my job by people half

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Speaker 3: my age it head office. Since then, I have mowed lawns,

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01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:55,213
Speaker 3: worked on a farm, and now deliver firewood. I have

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01:11:55,333 --> 01:11:57,812
Speaker 3: loved all of these jobs. It is possible. Just make

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01:11:57,853 --> 01:11:58,692
Speaker 3: a decision, Henry.

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01:11:58,973 --> 01:12:01,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, people should watch that movie Office Space. It's a

1505
01:12:01,492 --> 01:12:06,213
Speaker 2: fantastic movie, Mike Judge movie. And he's working in an

1506
01:12:06,253 --> 01:12:09,652
Speaker 2: annoying office job and slow stress, and then he gives

1507
01:12:09,732 --> 01:12:11,852
Speaker 2: up and just goes goes to work, back to working

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01:12:11,893 --> 01:12:14,412
Speaker 2: with his hands, that's right, and finds happiness.

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01:12:14,492 --> 01:12:18,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, David, you were made redundant.

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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01:12:20,053 --> 01:12:20,173
Speaker 15: Oh?

1512
01:12:20,293 --> 01:12:23,852
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I've been a carpenter and finally got qualified

1513
01:12:23,893 --> 01:12:25,452
Speaker 7: and got on off the tools and went into the

1514
01:12:25,532 --> 01:12:28,372
Speaker 7: education side of and I made some decisions. But yeah,

1515
01:12:28,452 --> 01:12:31,492
Speaker 7: unfortunately got made redundant and my body is getting a

1516
01:12:31,532 --> 01:12:35,412
Speaker 7: bit broken at forty seven, and I'm now looking at

1517
01:12:35,692 --> 01:12:37,692
Speaker 7: getting into the health and safety. I'm starting a qual

1518
01:12:37,772 --> 01:12:40,893
Speaker 7: in three weeks and so hopefully leading something else. So

1519
01:12:41,053 --> 01:12:44,173
Speaker 7: hopefully it can make work site. It says a lot safer,

1520
01:12:44,412 --> 01:12:45,572
Speaker 7: work sites a lot safer.

1521
01:12:46,093 --> 01:12:48,133
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about it change, David?

1522
01:12:48,213 --> 01:12:49,253
Speaker 15: Have you nervous?

1523
01:12:49,452 --> 01:12:50,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're nervous.

1524
01:12:51,213 --> 01:12:51,372
Speaker 15: You know.

1525
01:12:51,692 --> 01:12:53,612
Speaker 7: It's a good thing though, because my son struggles at

1526
01:12:53,612 --> 01:12:55,732
Speaker 7: school a bit as well, So you know, I'm explaining

1527
01:12:55,772 --> 01:12:58,732
Speaker 7: to him that Dad's going back to school. Yeah, you know,

1528
01:12:58,973 --> 01:13:00,612
Speaker 7: just shows that education is actually important.

1529
01:13:00,933 --> 01:13:04,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, looking down the future, did you

1530
01:13:04,732 --> 01:13:07,852
Speaker 2: feel how did you feel when that that that other

1531
01:13:07,933 --> 01:13:08,852
Speaker 2: career finished?

1532
01:13:09,532 --> 01:13:10,532
Speaker 8: Did it hurt?

1533
01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:11,053
Speaker 7: Hurt?

1534
01:13:11,173 --> 01:13:14,692
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that my mental health badly. And how long

1535
01:13:14,732 --> 01:13:17,333
Speaker 2: did it take you sort of to find a way forward?

1536
01:13:18,293 --> 01:13:20,732
Speaker 7: Well, it was October. I got made redundant, and you

1537
01:13:20,812 --> 01:13:23,372
Speaker 7: know it's still affected me now, but you know, I'm

1538
01:13:23,893 --> 01:13:26,052
Speaker 7: doing something about it and moving forward.

1539
01:13:27,853 --> 01:13:28,013
Speaker 8: Was it?

1540
01:13:28,893 --> 01:13:33,012
Speaker 7: And and the previous guy like that put your mask

1541
01:13:33,093 --> 01:13:34,893
Speaker 7: on first? And yeah, I'm a massive believer in that

1542
01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:36,412
Speaker 7: myself actually like that that one.

1543
01:13:36,692 --> 01:13:38,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is good, isn't it. And so you've got

1544
01:13:38,333 --> 01:13:41,612
Speaker 2: your kid, so that's a huge motivation to sort your

1545
01:13:41,933 --> 01:13:44,772
Speaker 2: your situation out and do a difficult thing.

1546
01:13:45,893 --> 01:13:46,093
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1547
01:13:46,213 --> 01:13:48,133
Speaker 7: Yeah, my body is pretty broken now. I think I've

1548
01:13:48,133 --> 01:13:50,173
Speaker 7: just damaged my toe as well a sore shoulder which

1549
01:13:50,173 --> 01:13:52,293
Speaker 7: I wait to see a specialist about. So you know

1550
01:13:52,372 --> 01:13:53,652
Speaker 7: it's time to get off the tools and that you

1551
01:13:53,732 --> 01:13:54,652
Speaker 7: do something else about it.

1552
01:13:56,213 --> 01:13:58,892
Speaker 3: And how did you get into the study aspect?

1553
01:13:59,133 --> 01:13:59,372
Speaker 11: Was that?

1554
01:14:00,812 --> 01:14:02,492
Speaker 3: You know, how long did that take you to study out?

1555
01:14:04,053 --> 01:14:07,372
Speaker 7: Well, just just starting the qualification for that one. In

1556
01:14:07,412 --> 01:14:09,133
Speaker 7: the last three years i've been she managed to achieve

1557
01:14:09,213 --> 01:14:12,133
Speaker 7: quite a few qualifications through my employers and things like that,

1558
01:14:12,213 --> 01:14:14,892
Speaker 7: which is really good. And it's I've achieved more Master

1559
01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:16,372
Speaker 7: of Years than I sort of really ever have in

1560
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:20,612
Speaker 7: my life. Yeah, and it's actually started at domino effect.

1561
01:14:20,692 --> 01:14:22,932
Speaker 7: Now it's what else can I achieve? Obviously I'm doing

1562
01:14:22,973 --> 01:14:25,692
Speaker 7: it later in life. But having a young son, being

1563
01:14:25,732 --> 01:14:28,412
Speaker 7: an older dad, it's just yeah, I think it's one

1564
01:14:28,452 --> 01:14:30,652
Speaker 7: of those things reassuring for him that you know, don't

1565
01:14:30,893 --> 01:14:33,013
Speaker 7: give up, don't just keep that going on.

1566
01:14:33,532 --> 01:14:35,412
Speaker 2: Get on you, David, Yeah, and all the best with

1567
01:14:35,492 --> 01:14:37,852
Speaker 2: That'll give us a ring back sometime and tell us

1568
01:14:37,893 --> 01:14:38,293
Speaker 2: how it goes.

1569
01:14:38,612 --> 01:14:40,772
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1570
01:14:40,853 --> 01:14:44,012
Speaker 3: number to call if you've changed careers later in life

1571
01:14:44,053 --> 01:14:46,532
Speaker 3: in your forties, fifties, sixties, love to hear from you.

1572
01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:48,852
Speaker 2: You checked out from reading that horrific text.

1573
01:14:48,973 --> 01:14:50,652
Speaker 3: Oh, I can read it right now if you we'll

1574
01:14:50,692 --> 01:14:51,532
Speaker 3: come back with it. Okay.

1575
01:14:51,532 --> 01:14:52,492
Speaker 2: I think I think you're.

1576
01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,492
Speaker 3: Standing by It. Just took me ages to censor it,

1577
01:14:54,572 --> 01:14:56,772
Speaker 3: but I think so it has a go with us,

1578
01:14:57,213 --> 01:14:58,972
Speaker 3: and I've changed some of the language there.

1579
01:14:59,013 --> 01:15:01,013
Speaker 2: But well, that's the first person that's ever had to go.

1580
01:15:02,333 --> 01:15:05,253
Speaker 3: Who would have thought but never is coming at us

1581
01:15:05,293 --> 01:15:06,012
Speaker 3: six months.

1582
01:15:05,812 --> 01:15:08,253
Speaker 2: And it's been nothing but niceties of nineteen nine.

1583
01:15:08,692 --> 01:15:10,652
Speaker 3: I read that out the extent as nine to three.

1584
01:15:11,772 --> 01:15:14,173
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1585
01:15:14,253 --> 01:15:18,492
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons, U S Talks, B.

1586
01:15:20,173 --> 01:15:23,253
Speaker 3: News Talks here B seven to three. Right, I've managed

1587
01:15:23,333 --> 01:15:26,253
Speaker 3: to try and rewrite this tea. It's still got the

1588
01:15:26,333 --> 01:15:29,133
Speaker 3: same vibe about it. So I haven't I haven't done

1589
01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:31,173
Speaker 3: this person of the service, but I just needed to

1590
01:15:31,293 --> 01:15:32,493
Speaker 3: change some of the language.

1591
01:15:32,213 --> 01:15:34,692
Speaker 2: Right, please, you've removed the sea words, I assume you.

1592
01:15:34,732 --> 01:15:36,732
Speaker 3: Have from Yeah, there was a lot of yeah, a

1593
01:15:36,732 --> 01:15:37,973
Speaker 3: lot of sea words in there, and a lot of

1594
01:15:38,213 --> 01:15:40,692
Speaker 3: words as well. So this is the vibe of it.

1595
01:15:40,973 --> 01:15:43,973
Speaker 3: You guys are if in numb skulls. Everyone should just

1596
01:15:44,013 --> 01:15:46,532
Speaker 3: give up, as AI will fast be taking all of

1597
01:15:46,612 --> 01:15:49,372
Speaker 3: our jobs, no point and up scaling in anything. It's

1598
01:15:49,452 --> 01:15:52,173
Speaker 3: time we had a regular income from the government for

1599
01:15:52,293 --> 01:15:54,572
Speaker 3: being human. There's no point anymore. You guys are just

1600
01:15:54,692 --> 01:15:57,972
Speaker 3: if and morons for even talking about it. Signed by

1601
01:15:58,093 --> 01:16:00,412
Speaker 3: a gen xer. Now he didn't use the word more

1602
01:16:00,452 --> 01:16:01,173
Speaker 3: on or numb skull.

1603
01:16:01,213 --> 01:16:04,772
Speaker 2: I've changed that. But yeah, well, I mean, well just

1604
01:16:04,853 --> 01:16:07,372
Speaker 2: give up because I mean, you don't know what AI

1605
01:16:07,532 --> 01:16:07,893
Speaker 2: is going to do.

1606
01:16:08,333 --> 01:16:09,372
Speaker 3: It's a been defeatist, doesn't it.

1607
01:16:09,452 --> 01:16:10,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean people just give up.

1608
01:16:11,053 --> 01:16:12,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, the government, you've got to keep up till.

1609
01:16:13,412 --> 01:16:16,253
Speaker 2: You can give up. But I don't know. I don't

1610
01:16:16,253 --> 01:16:17,692
Speaker 2: know how much money you're going to get from the government.

1611
01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:20,253
Speaker 2: I'm fifty two this year. I worked for a massive

1612
01:16:20,293 --> 01:16:23,692
Speaker 2: multinational for twenty three years running a distribution center. I'd

1613
01:16:23,732 --> 01:16:26,253
Speaker 2: had enough so resigned with nothing planned. Now I'm in

1614
01:16:26,293 --> 01:16:29,812
Speaker 2: a nineteen ton loader in a sawmill. No managing staff,

1615
01:16:29,893 --> 01:16:34,093
Speaker 2: no meetings about meetings, no emails. Oh and no mortgage. Okay,

1616
01:16:34,133 --> 01:16:34,732
Speaker 2: well that helps you.

1617
01:16:34,812 --> 01:16:36,372
Speaker 3: Okay, handy.

1618
01:16:36,532 --> 01:16:38,053
Speaker 2: No mortgage is a handy one in that one. But

1619
01:16:38,372 --> 01:16:41,412
Speaker 2: that's an uplifting story. I am probably an anomaly. Will

1620
01:16:41,492 --> 01:16:43,973
Speaker 2: be completing forty years for the same employer in a

1621
01:16:44,013 --> 01:16:46,652
Speaker 2: few months. Was looking for a change in job when

1622
01:16:46,652 --> 01:16:48,692
Speaker 2: I turned fifty and was ready to leave, but ended

1623
01:16:48,772 --> 01:16:51,693
Speaker 2: up in a new role that wasn't customer facing, with flexibility,

1624
01:16:51,772 --> 01:16:54,333
Speaker 2: work from home. So happy because the company have been

1625
01:16:54,452 --> 01:16:56,173
Speaker 2: fantastic to work for. That's from Andrea.

1626
01:16:56,253 --> 01:16:56,692
Speaker 20: There you go.

1627
01:16:56,812 --> 01:16:59,532
Speaker 2: That's someone that is a genics that hasn't had to

1628
01:16:59,612 --> 01:17:00,213
Speaker 2: change their job.

1629
01:17:00,333 --> 01:17:02,692
Speaker 3: Love that. And this was a great text as well. Guys,

1630
01:17:02,772 --> 01:17:06,133
Speaker 3: great topic, thank you. Very interesting that every person saying

1631
01:17:06,173 --> 01:17:08,892
Speaker 3: you can easily change careers just put your mass gone first,

1632
01:17:08,973 --> 01:17:11,253
Speaker 3: et cetera. Is a male. I'm a thirty nine year

1633
01:17:11,253 --> 01:17:13,372
Speaker 3: old female with two young kids a husband. I would

1634
01:17:13,372 --> 01:17:15,892
Speaker 3: love to join the police. However, being away at college

1635
01:17:15,933 --> 01:17:18,532
Speaker 3: for three months and being away from family to then

1636
01:17:18,652 --> 01:17:20,973
Speaker 3: go to shift work and take a pay cut just

1637
01:17:21,053 --> 01:17:23,572
Speaker 3: seems way too hard. Right now, I realize this message

1638
01:17:23,572 --> 01:17:27,732
Speaker 3: sounds quite negative. Haha. I am usually quite a positive person.

1639
01:17:27,853 --> 01:17:29,852
Speaker 3: Just the truth and there is something to that.

1640
01:17:30,293 --> 01:17:32,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, well here's a builder here, had a guts full.

1641
01:17:33,372 --> 01:17:35,253
Speaker 2: I'm going to sell up and start a bar somewhere

1642
01:17:35,293 --> 01:17:36,013
Speaker 2: in the Mediterranean.

1643
01:17:36,093 --> 01:17:38,852
Speaker 3: Well there you go, Yeah, tell us that where and when.

1644
01:17:38,973 --> 01:17:41,572
Speaker 2: All the best rob Yeah, we'll come over. Go well,

1645
01:17:41,732 --> 01:17:44,133
Speaker 2: I'll have a peanut Lata and Tyler will have a

1646
01:17:44,173 --> 01:17:44,772
Speaker 2: Shirley temple.

1647
01:17:46,293 --> 01:17:48,213
Speaker 3: Right, thank you very What is a Hurley temple? By

1648
01:17:48,213 --> 01:17:48,932
Speaker 3: the way, is there a bit.

1649
01:17:48,812 --> 01:17:51,932
Speaker 2: Of whiskey in that? No, that's okay, just a lemonade

1650
01:17:51,973 --> 01:17:52,133
Speaker 2: for you.

1651
01:17:52,293 --> 01:17:54,492
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take it all right, come it up. After

1652
01:17:54,652 --> 01:17:56,812
Speaker 3: three o'clock, we want to talk about the Sunday roast.

1653
01:17:56,893 --> 01:18:00,093
Speaker 3: It is back in vogue and we want to chat

1654
01:18:00,133 --> 01:18:02,213
Speaker 3: with you about what makes the perfect Sunday roast.

1655
01:18:02,333 --> 01:18:03,732
Speaker 2: It's a key issue for Kiwi's.

1656
01:18:03,853 --> 01:18:06,293
Speaker 3: That absolutely is our wait under an eighty ten eighty

1657
01:18:06,692 --> 01:18:09,173
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Andrew is dandy boy, great,

1658
01:18:09,293 --> 01:18:11,692
Speaker 3: have your company as always, you're listening to met and Tyler.

1659
01:18:11,772 --> 01:18:12,492
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

1660
01:18:14,213 --> 01:18:16,612
Speaker 18: He comes the two of the three of the four

1661
01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:19,333
Speaker 18: when this last call and he kick it shout at

1662
01:18:19,412 --> 01:18:22,253
Speaker 18: dark skin kind of lay. But the ladies want some

1663
01:18:22,372 --> 01:18:26,293
Speaker 18: morn Oh my good lord, gonna drink.

1664
01:18:26,412 --> 01:18:28,932
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put me up a double shadow.

1665
01:18:29,013 --> 01:18:29,412
Speaker 8: Whist.

1666
01:18:30,093 --> 01:18:33,293
Speaker 2: They're on me attack. Dale's got it his free. There's

1667
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:35,452
Speaker 2: a part of downtown near Fish Street.

1668
01:18:36,093 --> 01:18:37,652
Speaker 3: Everybody had the barkeet.

1669
01:18:38,973 --> 01:18:42,133
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull me up a double shadow. Listen, they're

1670
01:18:42,213 --> 01:18:43,812
Speaker 2: on me attack, Dale's got.

1671
01:18:44,853 --> 01:18:48,053
Speaker 18: You got the bottom level, Botty doll Man, you got

1672
01:18:48,053 --> 01:18:49,533
Speaker 18: anybody bardet.

1673
01:18:53,933 --> 01:18:55,853
Speaker 3: Everybody had a barket.

1674
01:18:59,692 --> 01:18:59,732
Speaker 22: You.

1675
01:18:59,853 --> 01:19:01,213
Speaker 3: Everybody had the barn.

1676
01:19:04,452 --> 01:19:08,173
Speaker 1: You're a new home for insightl and Entertaining Talk. It's

1677
01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:12,093
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1678
01:19:12,213 --> 01:19:17,053
Speaker 3: Sebby, welcome back into the program. Seven past three. Just

1679
01:19:17,093 --> 01:19:18,572
Speaker 3: before we talk about the Sunday roast.

1680
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:20,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I've got a bit of an apology here

1681
01:19:21,333 --> 01:19:23,652
Speaker 2: because I laid into millennials. I was really just sort

1682
01:19:23,692 --> 01:19:26,293
Speaker 2: of trying to lay into Tyler, but there was some

1683
01:19:26,372 --> 01:19:28,173
Speaker 2: clatter of damage. In this text, it says I'm a

1684
01:19:28,213 --> 01:19:30,692
Speaker 2: millennial and I disagree with you, Matt, that we're not

1685
01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:33,133
Speaker 2: good with our hands. We run circles around the old

1686
01:19:33,173 --> 01:19:35,213
Speaker 2: boys and have a lot more technical ins and outs

1687
01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:37,372
Speaker 2: that come with our job. That the old boys never

1688
01:19:37,452 --> 01:19:39,692
Speaker 2: had to deal with cheers lads. Yeah, yeah, No, I

1689
01:19:39,772 --> 01:19:43,972
Speaker 2: mean there's absolutely there's a huge amount of millennials out

1690
01:19:44,013 --> 01:19:48,092
Speaker 2: there on sites and different walks of life being very handy.

1691
01:19:48,412 --> 01:19:52,452
Speaker 2: My point was more that, like, my dad is more

1692
01:19:52,492 --> 01:19:55,013
Speaker 2: practical than me, was really my point. Yeah, and as

1693
01:19:55,053 --> 01:19:57,812
Speaker 2: a result, my kids aren't as practical as me.

1694
01:19:58,173 --> 01:20:00,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a slow e roading of those skills being

1695
01:20:00,893 --> 01:20:01,372
Speaker 3: handed down.

1696
01:20:01,572 --> 01:20:01,772
Speaker 8: It was.

1697
01:20:01,973 --> 01:20:04,812
Speaker 3: It was a factor of how hard it was me

1698
01:20:05,293 --> 01:20:07,293
Speaker 3: to get me to help on the farm compared to

1699
01:20:07,333 --> 01:20:09,253
Speaker 3: how hard it was to get for him to be

1700
01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:11,213
Speaker 3: helped for his dad to get him to help on

1701
01:20:11,253 --> 01:20:12,732
Speaker 3: the farm, if you know what I mean. Yeah, instead

1702
01:20:12,732 --> 01:20:14,692
Speaker 3: of building the deck, you preferred to be throwing stones

1703
01:20:14,692 --> 01:20:17,692
Speaker 3: at trees and riding through you know, riding through trees

1704
01:20:17,812 --> 01:20:18,973
Speaker 3: like Luke Skywalker.

1705
01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:19,652
Speaker 20: Yeah yeah.

1706
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:23,412
Speaker 2: Watching Rambow First Blood for the four thousandth time on VHS.

1707
01:20:23,692 --> 01:20:24,492
Speaker 3: Great movie.

1708
01:20:25,253 --> 01:20:27,492
Speaker 2: And before that, I said that, not that anyone cares,

1709
01:20:27,492 --> 01:20:28,973
Speaker 2: but I took the time to write it out, so

1710
01:20:29,053 --> 01:20:31,812
Speaker 2: I feel like I might as well share it. These

1711
01:20:31,853 --> 01:20:34,412
Speaker 2: are all the careers that I've had as a genixer.

1712
01:20:34,492 --> 01:20:34,812
Speaker 7: Here we go.

1713
01:20:35,093 --> 01:20:38,132
Speaker 2: I started off as a nursery worker, which was basically

1714
01:20:38,333 --> 01:20:42,133
Speaker 2: shoveling gravel at Donaldson's nursery. Good job, and cutting down

1715
01:20:42,213 --> 01:20:44,452
Speaker 2: Christmas trees. Yep, that was my first job. Then I

1716
01:20:44,492 --> 01:20:47,732
Speaker 2: became a record store employee okay, Echo Records and then

1717
01:20:47,853 --> 01:20:50,972
Speaker 2: Real Groovy Records in Auckland. Then a weirhouse manager, right,

1718
01:20:51,213 --> 01:20:55,892
Speaker 2: very different, first at Flying Nun Records and then at

1719
01:20:56,013 --> 01:21:01,212
Speaker 2: IHAG Packing Computers, and then I became a fixed assessor

1720
01:21:02,372 --> 01:21:05,093
Speaker 2: fixed assssor it's when you go round and you find

1721
01:21:05,133 --> 01:21:07,372
Speaker 2: out the value of things for insurance, right, so you

1722
01:21:07,492 --> 01:21:09,612
Speaker 2: just find out that said, does how much is this worth?

1723
01:21:09,652 --> 01:21:10,812
Speaker 2: You know that kind of thing. So it was a

1724
01:21:10,853 --> 01:21:13,893
Speaker 2: research job yep. Then a stunt TV show producer and

1725
01:21:14,133 --> 01:21:17,412
Speaker 2: host yep. Then a TV producer, music radio host, animation

1726
01:21:17,492 --> 01:21:20,133
Speaker 2: company director, and now a news talk radio host. So

1727
01:21:20,173 --> 01:21:21,572
Speaker 2: they look at that, I'm a genix that it's been

1728
01:21:21,612 --> 01:21:22,173
Speaker 2: all over the place.

1729
01:21:22,253 --> 01:21:25,173
Speaker 3: What a journey, What a journey. But good for you

1730
01:21:25,253 --> 01:21:26,652
Speaker 3: to read that out because I could see you working

1731
01:21:26,652 --> 01:21:27,812
Speaker 3: away on that for the last hour.

1732
01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:29,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just had to get it out there.

1733
01:21:29,293 --> 01:21:32,412
Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, Now let's have a chat about the Sunday roast.

1734
01:21:32,452 --> 01:21:35,333
Speaker 3: It's going to be a great chat. On a recent Sunday,

1735
01:21:35,853 --> 01:21:38,452
Speaker 3: Dean Thompson found himself doing something he hadn't done in years,

1736
01:21:38,492 --> 01:21:41,892
Speaker 3: sitting down with his family for a proper Sunday roast. Now,

1737
01:21:41,973 --> 01:21:45,253
Speaker 3: Dean Thompson here is the hid chef at Schnapper Rock

1738
01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:47,893
Speaker 3: and tutor car Kapp Snapper Rock, so he knows what

1739
01:21:47,973 --> 01:21:50,932
Speaker 3: he's talking about. He's also a twenty twenty four Beef

1740
01:21:51,093 --> 01:21:54,173
Speaker 3: and Lamb New Zealand Ambassador chef, so he usually works

1741
01:21:54,173 --> 01:21:56,572
Speaker 3: at night. But his partner suggested making a Sunday roast

1742
01:21:56,612 --> 01:21:58,973
Speaker 3: for a weekly ritual, and he said it wasn't just

1743
01:21:59,013 --> 01:22:01,692
Speaker 3: about the roast, it was about creating a tradition and

1744
01:22:01,853 --> 01:22:04,532
Speaker 3: experience for the kids where Dad is home at the

1745
01:22:04,612 --> 01:22:07,692
Speaker 3: table at least once a week, so he's not alone.

1746
01:22:07,732 --> 01:22:10,652
Speaker 3: Across News Ellen, the once old fashioned Sunday roast is

1747
01:22:10,692 --> 01:22:13,213
Speaker 3: back on the menu, not as an obligation but as

1748
01:22:13,253 --> 01:22:14,333
Speaker 3: a chosen pleasure.

1749
01:22:15,093 --> 01:22:17,612
Speaker 2: Yes, so it looks and a number of other stories

1750
01:22:17,652 --> 01:22:20,932
Speaker 2: around about and if you're anywhere near social media, well

1751
01:22:20,973 --> 01:22:23,892
Speaker 2: if you're in my bubble anyway, there is a whole

1752
01:22:24,372 --> 01:22:27,892
Speaker 2: lot of Sunday roasting going down a real resurgence. It's

1753
01:22:27,893 --> 01:22:29,692
Speaker 2: sort of slipped away for a while. It did, but

1754
01:22:29,812 --> 01:22:35,173
Speaker 2: now it's come back, and sometimes things start happening and

1755
01:22:35,732 --> 01:22:38,373
Speaker 2: it becomes a cultural thing or that's in the zeigeist

1756
01:22:38,893 --> 01:22:40,772
Speaker 2: and you realize you're doing it, and you wonder whether

1757
01:22:41,372 --> 01:22:45,053
Speaker 2: there's just a group thing that happens that everyone we're

1758
01:22:45,093 --> 01:22:47,772
Speaker 2: all sharing a similar experience. We all move to things

1759
01:22:47,812 --> 01:22:50,452
Speaker 2: at the same time. But I've been moving heavily to

1760
01:22:51,213 --> 01:22:54,732
Speaker 2: making Sunday roasts for my kids over the last few

1761
01:22:54,812 --> 01:22:57,772
Speaker 2: months and it's a game changer. So it's so good

1762
01:22:57,853 --> 01:23:00,692
Speaker 2: to get together. You make the food very I think

1763
01:23:00,692 --> 01:23:03,972
Speaker 2: it's incredible for one of a bit of a word,

1764
01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:07,253
Speaker 2: mental health. It just feels great to spend the time

1765
01:23:07,853 --> 01:23:11,372
Speaker 2: cooking the meat, choosing the meat, making everything, putting it together,

1766
01:23:11,492 --> 01:23:14,372
Speaker 2: working together, getting the Yorkshire pud right, which always turns

1767
01:23:14,412 --> 01:23:19,012
Speaker 2: into basically for me, just solid whack of pastry. But anyway,

1768
01:23:19,053 --> 01:23:21,612
Speaker 2: that's another The Yorkshire pud oh hard to get right.

1769
01:23:21,652 --> 01:23:23,812
Speaker 2: You've got to go really hot. Anyway, let's not get

1770
01:23:23,812 --> 01:23:25,973
Speaker 2: into it. And then sitting down with the family and

1771
01:23:26,013 --> 01:23:29,652
Speaker 2: eating and it's just with everyone in their phones usually

1772
01:23:29,732 --> 01:23:33,372
Speaker 2: now when everyone doing other things. Just to force everyone

1773
01:23:33,412 --> 01:23:35,412
Speaker 2: to get rid of around the table and cook food

1774
01:23:35,412 --> 01:23:36,492
Speaker 2: together and eat it. Together.

1775
01:23:36,853 --> 01:23:40,133
Speaker 3: It's just so gratifying, that big jug of gravy right

1776
01:23:40,173 --> 01:23:43,813
Speaker 3: in the middle of the table. You go gravy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1777
01:23:43,933 --> 01:23:45,652
Speaker 3: And what sort of meat do you go? I mean,

1778
01:23:45,893 --> 01:23:48,213
Speaker 3: granted you choose the choose the cut, and go down

1779
01:23:48,253 --> 01:23:49,852
Speaker 3: and decide what kind of roast you're going to have,

1780
01:23:49,973 --> 01:23:51,053
Speaker 3: but what you go to.

1781
01:23:51,652 --> 01:23:54,932
Speaker 2: Well, you know, this weekend, I roasted up a couple

1782
01:23:54,933 --> 01:23:55,372
Speaker 2: of chickens.

1783
01:23:55,532 --> 01:23:56,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it.

1784
01:23:56,412 --> 01:23:58,532
Speaker 2: Love a chicken roast, yeah, chicken roast.

1785
01:23:58,372 --> 01:24:01,293
Speaker 3: But enough love the chicken RoCE. I'll to a beef yep,

1786
01:24:01,333 --> 01:24:03,972
Speaker 3: I'll to a lamb yep. You know when I'm doing

1787
01:24:04,013 --> 01:24:06,253
Speaker 3: the Sunday roast and summer it'll be an ie fill

1788
01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:09,333
Speaker 3: it on the barbecue. So it's not really but it's

1789
01:24:09,372 --> 01:24:10,452
Speaker 3: the same same idea.

1790
01:24:11,213 --> 01:24:11,333
Speaker 7: Now.

1791
01:24:11,452 --> 01:24:13,253
Speaker 3: You also mentioned earlier in the show that you do

1792
01:24:13,372 --> 01:24:15,772
Speaker 3: something controversial. I don't want to hear it right now. Yeah,

1793
01:24:15,893 --> 01:24:17,253
Speaker 3: but we're going to have to get to that. I

1794
01:24:17,293 --> 01:24:19,052
Speaker 3: don't know what it is to anybody listening.

1795
01:24:19,372 --> 01:24:22,133
Speaker 2: I'm expecting to lose any respect that anyone has for

1796
01:24:22,213 --> 01:24:24,692
Speaker 2: me when they find out one of the absolute staples

1797
01:24:24,732 --> 01:24:26,293
Speaker 2: of a Sunday roast in our house that I will

1798
01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:28,532
Speaker 2: I will not consider it a Sunday roast until this

1799
01:24:28,692 --> 01:24:29,093
Speaker 2: is part of it.

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01:24:29,253 --> 01:24:30,612
Speaker 3: All right, We'll leave that right to the end of

1801
01:24:30,652 --> 01:24:30,932
Speaker 3: the hour.

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01:24:31,053 --> 01:24:31,293
Speaker 7: There No.

1803
01:24:31,412 --> 01:24:33,732
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty Do you still do

1804
01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:36,412
Speaker 3: the Sunday roast and your household? And what makes a

1805
01:24:36,492 --> 01:24:38,852
Speaker 3: good Sunday roast? Love to hear from you, and if

1806
01:24:38,853 --> 01:24:40,253
Speaker 3: you want to send a teach more than welcome. Nine

1807
01:24:40,293 --> 01:24:43,772
Speaker 3: to nine two. It is twelve past three. News Talks

1808
01:24:43,812 --> 01:24:46,692
Speaker 3: there b. We're talking about the Sunday Roast. Why you

1809
01:24:46,893 --> 01:24:49,412
Speaker 3: ask is that it's making a bit of a resurgence.

1810
01:24:49,452 --> 01:24:52,892
Speaker 3: It's coming back into vogue households up and down New

1811
01:24:52,973 --> 01:24:55,213
Speaker 3: Zealand and getting back into the Sunday Roast and hospo

1812
01:24:55,293 --> 01:24:56,093
Speaker 3: as well. They're loving it.

1813
01:24:56,652 --> 01:24:57,812
Speaker 2: Matthew, Welcome to the show.

1814
01:24:59,213 --> 01:25:02,492
Speaker 25: Oh good, A topic very close to my heart.

1815
01:25:02,812 --> 01:25:03,092
Speaker 15: Guys.

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01:25:03,772 --> 01:25:04,892
Speaker 25: We had a took last night.

1817
01:25:05,053 --> 01:25:05,852
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, beautiful.

1818
01:25:05,933 --> 01:25:09,293
Speaker 25: But my family. I a lamb and I love that

1819
01:25:09,492 --> 01:25:12,093
Speaker 25: little shank that you can get at the end, you know,

1820
01:25:12,173 --> 01:25:14,293
Speaker 25: when you cook it, you can you can pick that.

1821
01:25:14,372 --> 01:25:16,852
Speaker 2: Up exactly what you mean, exactly what you mean.

1822
01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:23,972
Speaker 25: That little knucklebe little knuckle juicy, quite controversial, like that's

1823
01:25:24,013 --> 01:25:26,492
Speaker 25: only like the cook in the bag roe, you know,

1824
01:25:27,093 --> 01:25:29,572
Speaker 25: and I'm a bit ho I'm about it all. You know,

1825
01:25:29,853 --> 01:25:32,772
Speaker 25: the these bags that you can get that your little.

1826
01:25:32,652 --> 01:25:35,173
Speaker 2: Cable ties that you seel up what you mean with

1827
01:25:35,333 --> 01:25:36,652
Speaker 2: everything in there, including the veg.

1828
01:25:37,732 --> 01:25:39,132
Speaker 20: No, no, the veg is separate.

1829
01:25:39,213 --> 01:25:41,372
Speaker 25: The veg is separate. But it is good because it

1830
01:25:41,452 --> 01:25:43,972
Speaker 25: does make a good gravy. But it doesn't you don't

1831
01:25:44,013 --> 01:25:44,732
Speaker 25: get the you.

1832
01:25:44,772 --> 01:25:45,652
Speaker 2: Don't get them.

1833
01:25:46,612 --> 01:25:46,852
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1834
01:25:46,893 --> 01:25:48,772
Speaker 2: I did a chicken in one of those bags once.

1835
01:25:48,853 --> 01:25:50,692
Speaker 2: Its just the whole thing just seemed a bit moist

1836
01:25:50,853 --> 01:25:51,053
Speaker 2: to me.

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01:25:51,253 --> 01:25:55,333
Speaker 3: Yeah. I try to do you go, Matthew, and it

1838
01:25:55,452 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 3: falls apart, just like I mean, it's.

1839
01:25:58,333 --> 01:26:00,013
Speaker 2: Not that hard to roast a chicken. Why do you

1840
01:26:00,093 --> 01:26:03,052
Speaker 2: need the bag? I mean, it's not it's not exactly

1841
01:26:03,093 --> 01:26:04,733
Speaker 2: a high level of complexity.

1842
01:26:05,133 --> 01:26:07,772
Speaker 3: No, well it doesn't. It can end up pretty perfect

1843
01:26:07,812 --> 01:26:09,973
Speaker 3: depending on beg you used. But because I do it

1844
01:26:10,053 --> 01:26:12,772
Speaker 3: in one big tray with the veggies, I find with

1845
01:26:12,893 --> 01:26:15,333
Speaker 3: the ones in the bag it's too juicy, so all

1846
01:26:15,412 --> 01:26:17,612
Speaker 3: that juice gets into the vegis and then the veg

1847
01:26:17,812 --> 01:26:21,052
Speaker 3: just turned to mush. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no good.

1848
01:26:21,053 --> 01:26:23,892
Speaker 25: And I think I love it. Yam with the yams

1849
01:26:23,973 --> 01:26:28,372
Speaker 25: with the roast, and I do partner and carrots mashed

1850
01:26:28,412 --> 01:26:29,173
Speaker 25: with malt vinegar.

1851
01:26:29,492 --> 01:26:33,972
Speaker 2: Oh jesus, that's crazy talk. Are you Are you cooking those?

1852
01:26:34,093 --> 01:26:35,612
Speaker 2: Are you cooking those yams up with honey?

1853
01:26:37,173 --> 01:26:37,213
Speaker 24: No?

1854
01:26:37,372 --> 01:26:39,133
Speaker 25: I haven't done that one. I haven't done it. I

1855
01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:42,572
Speaker 25: do like roasting. I do like roasting a bruthels brout too.

1856
01:26:43,173 --> 01:26:49,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like you're innovative. It's an innovative roast.

1857
01:26:49,213 --> 01:26:50,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, my on the roast.

1858
01:26:51,452 --> 01:26:54,372
Speaker 2: My roast is handed down from my appearance. Do it

1859
01:26:54,412 --> 01:26:56,452
Speaker 2: the same as they did it for me? Yeah, you got?

1860
01:26:56,492 --> 01:26:59,772
Speaker 25: You go with your favorite roast would either be pork

1861
01:26:59,893 --> 01:27:04,612
Speaker 25: or lamb. Yeah, and then again a glazed A glazed

1862
01:27:04,692 --> 01:27:06,173
Speaker 25: ham is also very good.

1863
01:27:06,692 --> 01:27:07,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you.

1864
01:27:07,732 --> 01:27:10,333
Speaker 2: Got, you got your You've got potatoes there right obviously,

1865
01:27:10,732 --> 01:27:10,933
Speaker 2: are you?

1866
01:27:11,612 --> 01:27:11,812
Speaker 22: Are you?

1867
01:27:13,213 --> 01:27:13,412
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1868
01:27:13,532 --> 01:27:15,652
Speaker 2: You're boiling those potatoes first before you roast them.

1869
01:27:16,013 --> 01:27:18,692
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, and then putting them in the strainer and

1870
01:27:18,853 --> 01:27:19,532
Speaker 25: flupping them.

1871
01:27:19,492 --> 01:27:23,892
Speaker 2: Up, and which you attempted to duck fit them metew

1872
01:27:24,652 --> 01:27:24,932
Speaker 2: I did.

1873
01:27:25,093 --> 01:27:28,732
Speaker 3: I did duck that last nights to do studs.

1874
01:27:29,372 --> 01:27:31,173
Speaker 25: Have you seen the price to duck fed? I want

1875
01:27:31,173 --> 01:27:32,213
Speaker 25: to chuck it in the pants.

1876
01:27:32,732 --> 01:27:34,213
Speaker 3: You may as well cut your own duck I think

1877
01:27:34,253 --> 01:27:34,932
Speaker 3: at those prices.

1878
01:27:37,973 --> 01:27:41,172
Speaker 2: Once you start, once you start duck fetting your potatoes,

1879
01:27:41,213 --> 01:27:43,452
Speaker 2: it's hard to go back a potatoes so disappointing. If

1880
01:27:43,492 --> 01:27:48,492
Speaker 2: you haven't double coture and D you can't go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1881
01:27:48,572 --> 01:27:49,173
Speaker 2: it's very good.

1882
01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:51,013
Speaker 25: It's very good. Yeah, I do love.

1883
01:27:51,532 --> 01:27:53,852
Speaker 2: Oh good on you if you and like so the

1884
01:27:53,933 --> 01:27:55,133
Speaker 2: family is around for your roast.

1885
01:27:56,532 --> 01:27:59,372
Speaker 25: Yeah, you know the kids, we get them off the boat.

1886
01:27:59,532 --> 01:28:01,852
Speaker 25: They're pretty good. And they're not they're not a big

1887
01:28:02,213 --> 01:28:05,612
Speaker 25: they're not big fans. I'd rather Asian. They go blooding

1888
01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:06,933
Speaker 25: roads like West and.

1889
01:28:09,853 --> 01:28:10,053
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1890
01:28:10,452 --> 01:28:11,973
Speaker 25: It's also controversial, but.

1891
01:28:12,333 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 2: There's just a feeling of well being that I believe

1892
01:28:15,293 --> 01:28:18,213
Speaker 2: comes over you when you've spent some time to prepare

1893
01:28:18,772 --> 01:28:20,812
Speaker 2: a meal, taking a while, and you serve it to

1894
01:28:20,893 --> 01:28:24,253
Speaker 2: your family. This just is I just feel so good

1895
01:28:24,853 --> 01:28:25,892
Speaker 2: for the rest of the afternoon.

1896
01:28:26,572 --> 01:28:28,612
Speaker 3: And you have to be around the table. It's not

1897
01:28:28,812 --> 01:28:31,852
Speaker 3: something that you can eat on the couch watching TV.

1898
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:33,492
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. You've got to be around the

1899
01:28:33,532 --> 01:28:34,892
Speaker 3: table with that jug the.

1900
01:28:34,933 --> 01:28:39,452
Speaker 2: Piece goes oh yeah yeah. As a father, do you

1901
01:28:39,572 --> 01:28:41,173
Speaker 2: when the p goes off the plate? Do you make

1902
01:28:41,253 --> 01:28:43,492
Speaker 2: the joke? Oh, look, your pete on the table. Do

1903
01:28:43,532 --> 01:28:44,293
Speaker 2: you make that joke?

1904
01:28:45,412 --> 01:28:47,293
Speaker 25: I haven't used that one, but yeah you.

1905
01:28:47,333 --> 01:28:49,412
Speaker 2: Will now and then any other dare joke. You say,

1906
01:28:49,452 --> 01:28:51,972
Speaker 2: it's just give piece a chance, and then it ruins

1907
01:28:52,013 --> 01:28:52,812
Speaker 2: the dinner for everyone.

1908
01:28:53,652 --> 01:28:55,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what happened to the Sunday Roast. That's why

1909
01:28:55,692 --> 01:29:00,253
Speaker 3: it went off, ruined by rubbishags their jokes.

1910
01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:00,532
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1911
01:29:00,612 --> 01:29:03,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1912
01:29:03,213 --> 01:29:06,093
Speaker 3: to call. What makes the perfect roast? The Sunday Roast

1913
01:29:06,173 --> 01:29:07,973
Speaker 3: is back. Confession If you do it, love to hear

1914
01:29:08,013 --> 01:29:10,053
Speaker 3: from you. It is nineteen past three.

1915
01:29:10,213 --> 01:29:12,812
Speaker 2: Brian your chicken before you roast it. Your muppets says

1916
01:29:12,893 --> 01:29:17,972
Speaker 2: this text it Brian a turkey. Yeah, I'll brain a turkey,

1917
01:29:18,053 --> 01:29:19,572
Speaker 2: but I won't to know. I won't brow a chicken.

1918
01:29:19,732 --> 01:29:19,772
Speaker 22: No.

1919
01:29:24,532 --> 01:29:27,892
Speaker 1: Matd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1920
01:29:27,973 --> 01:29:31,293
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZVY very good afternoons.

1921
01:29:31,293 --> 01:29:33,492
Speaker 3: You were talking about the Sunday roasted is back in

1922
01:29:33,692 --> 01:29:35,572
Speaker 3: vogue and a lot of families up and down the

1923
01:29:35,612 --> 01:29:37,732
Speaker 3: country getting back into the Sunday roast. We want to

1924
01:29:37,732 --> 01:29:40,093
Speaker 3: hear from you. If you do that, is it for

1925
01:29:40,293 --> 01:29:43,333
Speaker 3: the tradition? Is it just because it can be hopefully

1926
01:29:43,732 --> 01:29:46,333
Speaker 3: something that's relatively easy to put together. Love to hear

1927
01:29:46,372 --> 01:29:48,052
Speaker 3: from you on one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1928
01:29:48,013 --> 01:29:50,333
Speaker 2: Tear open the bag. At the end, Tyler and Fan

1929
01:29:50,452 --> 01:29:53,492
Speaker 2: bake for thirty minutes of say you use the bag

1930
01:29:53,612 --> 01:29:54,572
Speaker 2: for a bit and.

1931
01:29:54,652 --> 01:29:56,572
Speaker 3: Then right and then off some of the some of

1932
01:29:56,612 --> 01:29:57,092
Speaker 3: the juices.

1933
01:29:57,213 --> 01:29:59,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, off the moisture and maybe get you get a

1934
01:29:59,692 --> 01:30:03,692
Speaker 2: bit of a crispiness going. All right, Kathy, welcome to

1935
01:30:03,772 --> 01:30:04,133
Speaker 2: the show.

1936
01:30:05,253 --> 01:30:09,053
Speaker 15: Welcome, Hello. I haven't spoken to Ton for a long time,

1937
01:30:09,213 --> 01:30:12,333
Speaker 15: but any live in christ Nice.

1938
01:30:12,572 --> 01:30:15,652
Speaker 3: Nice to cheat again, Kathy. You're pretty into your Sunday roast,

1939
01:30:15,692 --> 01:30:16,492
Speaker 3: aren't you? From memory?

1940
01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:21,492
Speaker 15: No, no, oven doesn't want I'm sorry, no no, no

1941
01:30:22,093 --> 01:30:24,412
Speaker 15: has been had it for three years, so I can't

1942
01:30:24,492 --> 01:30:26,333
Speaker 15: do any roasting now.

1943
01:30:26,412 --> 01:30:30,173
Speaker 2: But what I wanted to say, can you get your

1944
01:30:30,492 --> 01:30:33,492
Speaker 2: How come you can't you get ovens fixed? I can't

1945
01:30:33,532 --> 01:30:35,612
Speaker 2: afford to someone go around and fix.

1946
01:30:35,893 --> 01:30:38,333
Speaker 3: We get someone around to Kathy's place. So what are

1947
01:30:38,333 --> 01:30:39,612
Speaker 3: you doing instead of the oven?

1948
01:30:39,692 --> 01:30:39,932
Speaker 1: Kathy?

1949
01:30:40,692 --> 01:30:42,173
Speaker 15: I just use one frying pan?

1950
01:30:42,612 --> 01:30:43,412
Speaker 3: All right? Okay?

1951
01:30:44,612 --> 01:30:48,772
Speaker 15: Yeah, But what I was saying is I think food

1952
01:30:48,893 --> 01:30:52,013
Speaker 15: is not a trend. Food is luxury. You know, like

1953
01:30:52,173 --> 01:30:54,812
Speaker 15: it's not with you wear a pink shirt or blue

1954
01:30:54,893 --> 01:30:57,852
Speaker 15: shirt or red shirt or whatever. It's food. It's not

1955
01:30:57,973 --> 01:30:58,492
Speaker 15: a trend.

1956
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:04,333
Speaker 2: Can be a trend though, food food goes fashion. Yeah, yeah,

1957
01:31:05,173 --> 01:31:05,492
Speaker 2: I just.

1958
01:31:05,933 --> 01:31:08,093
Speaker 15: Don't agree with that because I think you know you

1959
01:31:08,372 --> 01:31:10,093
Speaker 15: you tell that to the people all over the world

1960
01:31:10,133 --> 01:31:12,293
Speaker 15: that haven't got something to put in their mouths at

1961
01:31:12,372 --> 01:31:12,772
Speaker 15: night time.

1962
01:31:14,013 --> 01:31:17,333
Speaker 2: Thank Kathy. We live in a time where are now

1963
01:31:17,492 --> 01:31:20,572
Speaker 2: more people die of obesity than of starvation. You know

1964
01:31:20,652 --> 01:31:22,892
Speaker 2: that that's a that's a happy fact of the world

1965
01:31:23,053 --> 01:31:26,452
Speaker 2: that we live in. A twenty twenty five Yeah, yeah, all.

1966
01:31:26,412 --> 01:31:27,572
Speaker 9: Right, it's a tyler.

1967
01:31:27,812 --> 01:31:31,253
Speaker 15: Yeah, I haven't seen you. I know that you live

1968
01:31:31,293 --> 01:31:34,453
Speaker 15: in my neck of the woods. I just I'm a detective.

1969
01:31:35,053 --> 01:31:35,213
Speaker 8: Right.

1970
01:31:36,213 --> 01:31:38,173
Speaker 3: Well, well, Katy, just before you carry on, I have

1971
01:31:38,293 --> 01:31:40,412
Speaker 3: moved up to Auckland. But you carry on. So you're

1972
01:31:40,612 --> 01:31:45,012
Speaker 3: you're out, Oh you're up here. You're upe in Mount Wellington.

1973
01:31:46,093 --> 01:31:48,133
Speaker 15: Yeah, of Mount Wellington. I was being on the cuff

1974
01:31:48,612 --> 01:31:52,253
Speaker 15: and I shocked over that for New World a lot.

1975
01:31:52,692 --> 01:31:55,253
Speaker 15: And I think I know where you might be situate it.

1976
01:31:55,293 --> 01:31:58,052
Speaker 15: I won't say, but I have never well, I wouldn't

1977
01:31:58,093 --> 01:31:59,412
Speaker 15: know what you look like because I don't have a

1978
01:31:59,492 --> 01:32:00,173
Speaker 15: TV either.

1979
01:32:00,532 --> 01:32:04,052
Speaker 3: Well, so I'm going to get you around for a roast, Kathy. Actually,

1980
01:32:04,133 --> 01:32:06,732
Speaker 3: and we are. We're going to be yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1981
01:32:06,732 --> 01:32:08,452
Speaker 3: and we're going to sort out your oven. Actually, so

1982
01:32:09,213 --> 01:32:10,852
Speaker 3: just when we put your back on hold, you just

1983
01:32:10,893 --> 01:32:12,293
Speaker 3: have a check to Andrew and we're going to sort

1984
01:32:12,333 --> 01:32:14,852
Speaker 3: out your oven and lets me and you get together

1985
01:32:14,893 --> 01:32:17,092
Speaker 3: for a Sunday roast. What's your what's your protein? A choice?

1986
01:32:19,173 --> 01:32:21,692
Speaker 15: I do like them?

1987
01:32:21,853 --> 01:32:24,972
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, okay, So Maddy's going to get the lamb.

1988
01:32:25,013 --> 01:32:27,012
Speaker 3: I'm going to get the yams, and we're gonna sort

1989
01:32:27,053 --> 01:32:28,412
Speaker 3: Kathy out. But we are going to sort of here,

1990
01:32:28,452 --> 01:32:28,852
Speaker 3: rubbin out.

1991
01:32:29,612 --> 01:32:32,852
Speaker 2: I'm getting the lamb, you're getting the yams. Yams are

1992
01:32:32,853 --> 01:32:33,652
Speaker 2: a lot cheaper than yam.

1993
01:32:33,692 --> 01:32:35,093
Speaker 3: Hey, we all know who gets paid the most on

1994
01:32:35,173 --> 01:32:35,452
Speaker 3: the show.

1995
01:32:36,053 --> 01:32:37,612
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll get the lamp. I'll get the lamp.

1996
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:40,572
Speaker 3: But just hold on the line because Andrew's gonna have

1997
01:32:40,572 --> 01:32:41,772
Speaker 3: a check to you. We are going to sort your

1998
01:32:41,772 --> 01:32:46,492
Speaker 3: oven out, Kathy, because that's not on. Uh Gregg, how

1999
01:32:46,532 --> 01:32:46,732
Speaker 3: are you?

2000
01:32:47,933 --> 01:32:48,093
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2001
01:32:48,213 --> 01:32:50,333
Speaker 20: Goeta guys, Now, what do you.

2002
01:32:50,333 --> 01:32:53,213
Speaker 3: Reckon when it comes to Oh, you don't get into

2003
01:32:53,253 --> 01:32:54,372
Speaker 3: the charcold, are you?

2004
01:32:55,492 --> 01:32:55,732
Speaker 10: Mate?

2005
01:32:56,053 --> 01:32:58,492
Speaker 20: That's that's all goes good to my household on the Sunday.

2006
01:33:01,532 --> 01:33:01,732
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2007
01:33:02,013 --> 01:33:05,852
Speaker 20: Look, it's the process. It's the process. It's enjoyable. Also

2008
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:09,052
Speaker 20: means you get it on about between our two pm

2009
01:33:09,213 --> 01:33:11,652
Speaker 20: and by the time it's ready, you've you've had a

2010
01:33:11,692 --> 01:33:15,213
Speaker 20: few beers and the kids are the kids are fanging

2011
01:33:15,213 --> 01:33:17,293
Speaker 20: around on their scooter while you while you're sort of

2012
01:33:18,013 --> 01:33:19,012
Speaker 20: looking at the barbecue.

2013
01:33:19,013 --> 01:33:19,333
Speaker 7: It's good.

2014
01:33:19,612 --> 01:33:20,492
Speaker 20: It's a good way to do it.

2015
01:33:20,732 --> 01:33:23,972
Speaker 2: What's the longest you've ever cooked a meat for? Greg?

2016
01:33:25,293 --> 01:33:27,973
Speaker 20: Well, look, I'm not a I'm by no means a pro.

2017
01:33:28,213 --> 01:33:32,452
Speaker 20: I I tend to stay away from the massive briskets

2018
01:33:32,492 --> 01:33:34,692
Speaker 20: and things because, yeah, they're just it's a long ride

2019
01:33:34,732 --> 01:33:39,892
Speaker 20: for a short slide, So I tend to just stick

2020
01:33:39,973 --> 01:33:42,253
Speaker 20: with it. Even like roast chocks. I've got the ceramics

2021
01:33:42,293 --> 01:33:44,133
Speaker 20: thing where you fill it up with any liquid you want,

2022
01:33:44,732 --> 01:33:47,412
Speaker 20: chuck the ROAs chuck on top, put on there for

2023
01:33:47,572 --> 01:33:49,052
Speaker 20: an hour and a half. Beautiful.

2024
01:33:49,333 --> 01:33:51,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing with charcoal, Greg, And maybe you

2025
01:33:51,973 --> 01:33:53,213
Speaker 3: do it a bit bit of a I've got a

2026
01:33:53,253 --> 01:33:56,293
Speaker 3: mate who really gets into it and it's, you know,

2027
01:33:56,452 --> 01:33:59,333
Speaker 3: a beautiful wee barbecue and charco operation he's got. But

2028
01:33:59,372 --> 01:34:01,692
Speaker 3: the last time we went round there and he promised

2029
01:34:01,732 --> 01:34:04,452
Speaker 3: this beautiful bit of meat and he keeps saying, you know,

2030
01:34:04,492 --> 01:34:06,213
Speaker 3: I've got to seven o'clock and he said, oh, you know,

2031
01:34:06,253 --> 01:34:08,852
Speaker 3: another another forty minutes, got to eight o'clock. Oh, just

2032
01:34:08,893 --> 01:34:11,253
Speaker 3: give it another thirty And we didn't eat until about

2033
01:34:11,253 --> 01:34:13,452
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock. And by that time I was legless. You know,

2034
01:34:13,532 --> 01:34:16,572
Speaker 3: the red wine was pouring. So that's the only thing.

2035
01:34:16,612 --> 01:34:18,652
Speaker 3: You've got to have your charchole game down pat to

2036
01:34:18,692 --> 01:34:20,652
Speaker 3: make sure it's ready to go by no later than

2037
01:34:20,732 --> 01:34:21,173
Speaker 3: eight pm.

2038
01:34:22,333 --> 01:34:22,572
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2039
01:34:23,013 --> 01:34:25,492
Speaker 20: Look, I've got two kids and we try two young ones,

2040
01:34:25,532 --> 01:34:27,452
Speaker 20: so we try and eat quite early so that they

2041
01:34:27,492 --> 01:34:29,093
Speaker 20: can have a try of it all as well. But

2042
01:34:30,053 --> 01:34:33,652
Speaker 20: we it all depends on your operation you set up.

2043
01:34:33,732 --> 01:34:34,093
Speaker 19: I got.

2044
01:34:34,133 --> 01:34:37,253
Speaker 20: I've got a you know, a ceramic one, so once

2045
01:34:37,333 --> 01:34:39,492
Speaker 20: you I don't find them difficult at all.

2046
01:34:41,173 --> 01:34:43,652
Speaker 3: Well, you're a brave man, Greg. I mean, I've seen

2047
01:34:43,732 --> 01:34:45,892
Speaker 3: the charcoal operation before and it looks good, and you're right,

2048
01:34:45,973 --> 01:34:49,293
Speaker 3: it tastes bloody good. But it just I don't know smokiness.

2049
01:34:49,452 --> 01:34:51,612
Speaker 20: My wife, My wife doesn't love it. She doesn't love

2050
01:34:51,732 --> 01:34:54,932
Speaker 20: everything smoked too smoky, But the hand to smoke good

2051
01:34:55,173 --> 01:34:57,253
Speaker 20: and it means it's a nice it's a nice way

2052
01:34:57,293 --> 01:35:00,412
Speaker 20: to spin the vo and you tend to get your

2053
01:35:00,452 --> 01:35:02,572
Speaker 20: way through a few beers at the same time.

2054
01:35:02,772 --> 01:35:04,973
Speaker 2: And how good does it feel putting the effort in

2055
01:35:05,213 --> 01:35:07,572
Speaker 2: to cook the meat, cook the beast and then you

2056
01:35:07,652 --> 01:35:11,372
Speaker 2: feed it to your spring? Is that is humanity? It

2057
01:35:11,492 --> 01:35:12,412
Speaker 2: is purest.

2058
01:35:13,612 --> 01:35:15,173
Speaker 20: I like it, but I've got a two year old

2059
01:35:15,253 --> 01:35:17,293
Speaker 20: that's the most probaular faciity seater in the world.

2060
01:35:19,492 --> 01:35:21,293
Speaker 2: Well, how good does it feel trying to force your

2061
01:35:21,333 --> 01:35:23,492
Speaker 2: fussy two year old to eat them food that you've

2062
01:35:23,492 --> 01:35:25,213
Speaker 2: spent a long time preparing for them and then have

2063
01:35:25,293 --> 01:35:27,772
Speaker 2: it thrown back in your face. That's humanity for you,

2064
01:35:27,933 --> 01:35:28,293
Speaker 2: right there?

2065
01:35:28,652 --> 01:35:32,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Greg good Man, thank you very much. O.

2066
01:35:32,933 --> 01:35:35,013
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

2067
01:35:35,093 --> 01:35:37,852
Speaker 3: call the Sunday Roast? Do you do it in your household?

2068
01:35:37,893 --> 01:35:39,972
Speaker 3: And if you do it, what is the essential part

2069
01:35:40,013 --> 01:35:42,452
Speaker 3: of the Kiwi Sunday Roast? Love to hear from you.

2070
01:35:42,612 --> 01:35:43,733
Speaker 3: Twenty eight past.

2071
01:35:43,492 --> 01:35:50,133
Speaker 11: Three you talks it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis

2072
01:35:50,293 --> 01:35:53,892
Speaker 11: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Tourism Minister Louise

2073
01:35:54,053 --> 01:35:57,772
Speaker 11: Upstins announced a thirteen point five million dollar boost for

2074
01:35:57,933 --> 01:36:03,012
Speaker 11: tourism marketing targeting Australia, the US and China. It's expected

2075
01:36:03,053 --> 01:36:06,212
Speaker 11: to deliver New Zealand an extra seventy two thousand visitors

2076
01:36:06,333 --> 01:36:11,692
Speaker 11: overcoming years. Israel says passengers on a yacht it stopped

2077
01:36:11,812 --> 01:36:15,173
Speaker 11: carrying aid for Gaza have been given food and water

2078
01:36:15,412 --> 01:36:19,132
Speaker 11: and it expects them to return home. Activists a Great

2079
01:36:19,293 --> 01:36:22,253
Speaker 11: Turnber is on board and says they've been kidnapped and

2080
01:36:22,333 --> 01:36:26,973
Speaker 11: their cargo taken. Further delays to the National Public Transport

2081
01:36:27,053 --> 01:36:31,412
Speaker 11: ticketing system more to move to let let people use

2082
01:36:31,532 --> 01:36:34,972
Speaker 11: an f poss or credit card country wide debit card

2083
01:36:35,013 --> 01:36:37,572
Speaker 11: I should have said its med year launch in Timardu

2084
01:36:37,612 --> 01:36:41,532
Speaker 11: and Temuka has been delayed, and NZTA says its revising

2085
01:36:41,692 --> 01:36:45,692
Speaker 11: rollout for Canterbury and the rest of the country. Brisco

2086
01:36:45,853 --> 01:36:49,213
Speaker 11: Group has taken the Warehouse Group's place on the NZX fifty,

2087
01:36:49,532 --> 01:36:53,253
Speaker 11: the New Zealand Stock Exchange's benchmark index. It will join

2088
01:36:53,293 --> 01:36:58,532
Speaker 11: two other listed retailers, Helenstein, Glasson and KMD brands can

2089
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2090
01:37:02,772 --> 01:37:06,012
Speaker 11: See this and more on the up content at enzid

2091
01:37:06,053 --> 01:37:09,133
Speaker 11: Herald premium. Back to matt ethan Adam.

2092
01:37:09,013 --> 01:37:11,133
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Railian. We're talking about the new

2093
01:37:11,293 --> 01:37:14,973
Speaker 3: Zealand Sunday roast. It is back in vogue and a

2094
01:37:15,013 --> 01:37:19,812
Speaker 3: lot of hospitality restaurants and cafes are undertaking the Sunday

2095
01:37:19,893 --> 01:37:22,093
Speaker 3: roast as well. Fell off a little bit the Sunday roast,

2096
01:37:22,692 --> 01:37:23,852
Speaker 3: but it's coming back and forth.

2097
01:37:24,293 --> 01:37:25,973
Speaker 2: And you know, look, I believe in the making it

2098
01:37:26,013 --> 01:37:28,772
Speaker 2: at home and working with your family and serving that,

2099
01:37:28,853 --> 01:37:30,412
Speaker 2: but also a big fan of going out for a

2100
01:37:30,452 --> 01:37:33,692
Speaker 2: Sunday roast. If you want to big up a Sunday

2101
01:37:33,812 --> 01:37:37,173
Speaker 2: roast purveyor yep, anywhere in the country, then we'd love

2102
01:37:37,253 --> 01:37:38,932
Speaker 2: to hear from you. How do you do your Sunday

2103
01:37:39,013 --> 01:37:42,692
Speaker 2: roast traditional or do you have a modern twist plant

2104
01:37:42,732 --> 01:37:46,652
Speaker 2: based roast? Okay? Or should people be tased taste presenting

2105
01:37:47,253 --> 01:37:51,492
Speaker 2: a plant based roast? And yeah, so what's so great

2106
01:37:51,492 --> 01:37:53,732
Speaker 2: about your Sunday roast? Day? And Phil, what do you

2107
01:37:53,772 --> 01:37:55,692
Speaker 2: think about this roast issue?

2108
01:37:57,652 --> 01:37:57,892
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2109
01:37:58,572 --> 01:38:00,612
Speaker 17: Or the old Sunday roast. I haven't had of a

2110
01:38:00,692 --> 01:38:05,132
Speaker 17: Sunday roast for god so long and great you Tyler

2111
01:38:05,253 --> 01:38:07,772
Speaker 17: for more from the cooked one for Kathy, I think

2112
01:38:07,812 --> 01:38:10,452
Speaker 17: it was a getting their oven flicked, the nice one.

2113
01:38:10,612 --> 01:38:13,412
Speaker 3: There's there's some good people that have text through as well.

2114
01:38:13,532 --> 01:38:15,412
Speaker 3: And I think we've got a fellow here who actually

2115
01:38:15,452 --> 01:38:18,572
Speaker 3: works from Appliant Servicing company, so hopefully we can tee

2116
01:38:18,612 --> 01:38:20,812
Speaker 3: him up with Kathy and get an oven sorted, because

2117
01:38:20,893 --> 01:38:21,173
Speaker 3: that's not.

2118
01:38:21,253 --> 01:38:23,173
Speaker 2: On and pill. I'm paying for the yam, so I'm

2119
01:38:23,213 --> 01:38:23,892
Speaker 2: helping out as well.

2120
01:38:23,933 --> 01:38:29,932
Speaker 3: There the lamb, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, got it, big

2121
01:38:29,973 --> 01:38:30,892
Speaker 3: money heath over there.

2122
01:38:30,812 --> 01:38:31,292
Speaker 7: Film.

2123
01:38:33,772 --> 01:38:37,492
Speaker 17: Yeah, no good one matter, yeah, that's they're good onto both, yeah,

2124
01:38:37,492 --> 01:38:38,333
Speaker 17: because you're playing for the.

2125
01:38:38,893 --> 01:38:41,972
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, and so so for for you mate,

2126
01:38:42,013 --> 01:38:44,612
Speaker 3: what's the perfect Sunday roast? Obviously a lot of root

2127
01:38:44,692 --> 01:38:49,492
Speaker 3: vegetables are involved, but Yorkshire put would you go that far?

2128
01:38:52,093 --> 01:38:52,133
Speaker 22: No?

2129
01:38:52,532 --> 01:38:56,133
Speaker 14: Not, because I was brought up very sort of brought

2130
01:38:56,213 --> 01:39:00,452
Speaker 14: up with the pretty traditional Sunday roast where I can't

2131
01:39:00,812 --> 01:39:04,933
Speaker 14: ever remember having that Yorkshire Yorkshire putting being part of it.

2132
01:39:05,492 --> 01:39:09,893
Speaker 14: But it was just your basic bog standard but but beautiful,

2133
01:39:10,532 --> 01:39:14,372
Speaker 14: like most simple things and life, your basic lamb bog

2134
01:39:14,452 --> 01:39:17,372
Speaker 14: standard meat with your lamb and your beautiful just raised

2135
01:39:17,452 --> 01:39:20,812
Speaker 14: potatoes and your and your root veggies like yams and

2136
01:39:20,893 --> 01:39:25,532
Speaker 14: punkin and parsnip and parrots and just wonderful.

2137
01:39:26,013 --> 01:39:27,093
Speaker 17: You know, just missed that.

2138
01:39:28,452 --> 01:39:30,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I don't. I don't like I gotta have.

2139
01:39:30,732 --> 01:39:32,253
Speaker 2: This is controversible, but I don't know. I got no

2140
01:39:32,333 --> 01:39:33,052
Speaker 2: time for a partner.

2141
01:39:34,612 --> 01:39:36,852
Speaker 3: I've got no time for a pasta, do you?

2142
01:39:37,293 --> 01:39:40,093
Speaker 2: When there's potatoes and kumina to be eaten? Why would

2143
01:39:40,133 --> 01:39:42,172
Speaker 2: you bother with them? Dirty partner?

2144
01:39:42,293 --> 01:39:43,932
Speaker 3: Well, you're got to get the ratio right, and you're right,

2145
01:39:43,973 --> 01:39:45,652
Speaker 3: you want more spud than passna. But you gotta have

2146
01:39:45,652 --> 01:39:49,492
Speaker 3: a parsnip. I mean we're now, so you're eating pastap.

2147
01:39:49,173 --> 01:39:51,452
Speaker 2: Sharon, you got a parsnup in your Sunday race?

2148
01:39:52,572 --> 01:39:58,253
Speaker 9: No, I never had, no, No. We we are definitely

2149
01:39:58,412 --> 01:40:00,973
Speaker 9: the Yorkshire pitting I'm a daughter of the Yorkshiremen.

2150
01:40:00,692 --> 01:40:02,213
Speaker 7: So that.

2151
01:40:03,692 --> 01:40:06,412
Speaker 9: But also we I cook our roast on our I

2152
01:40:06,452 --> 01:40:09,093
Speaker 9: would do it cooked up on it. That's really good.

2153
01:40:09,732 --> 01:40:17,013
Speaker 9: But no potatoes, pumpkin, kumera, carrots and these. But in

2154
01:40:17,133 --> 01:40:19,972
Speaker 9: our house it would I would be a divorce materiol

2155
01:40:20,213 --> 01:40:22,172
Speaker 9: if we didn't have decent gravy.

2156
01:40:22,933 --> 01:40:26,213
Speaker 2: Right, So you can't just whip up some bistow in

2157
01:40:26,452 --> 01:40:29,213
Speaker 2: some boiling water, spin that round. You got to make

2158
01:40:29,253 --> 01:40:30,492
Speaker 2: the proper with the fans.

2159
01:40:31,452 --> 01:40:32,253
Speaker 27: Well, yeah, we do.

2160
01:40:32,492 --> 01:40:35,053
Speaker 9: I do, really because I like the sabo tastes. But

2161
01:40:35,293 --> 01:40:37,572
Speaker 9: I have had gravy and core. There's nothing wrong with that.

2162
01:40:38,173 --> 01:40:40,692
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's got to be decent stuff. If it's

2163
01:40:40,732 --> 01:40:42,253
Speaker 9: roast pork, it's going to have apple with it.

2164
01:40:42,572 --> 01:40:44,972
Speaker 2: And who you having this roast with, Sharon?

2165
01:40:45,973 --> 01:40:47,333
Speaker 9: My husband and my son?

2166
01:40:47,692 --> 01:40:47,852
Speaker 12: Oh?

2167
01:40:47,973 --> 01:40:48,133
Speaker 9: Yes?

2168
01:40:48,933 --> 01:40:50,933
Speaker 2: And is your son on board of them? Because I

2169
01:40:51,013 --> 01:40:52,772
Speaker 2: think there may be the reason why I love a

2170
01:40:52,812 --> 01:40:55,372
Speaker 2: Sunday roaster is because it was something my parents did

2171
01:40:55,772 --> 01:40:57,532
Speaker 2: and I think it's a great tradition to pass on

2172
01:40:57,692 --> 01:40:59,812
Speaker 2: for the family. So maybe at the time your kids

2173
01:40:59,853 --> 01:41:02,253
Speaker 2: don't know how great it is. But does he into it?

2174
01:41:02,412 --> 01:41:02,893
Speaker 2: How old is he?

2175
01:41:04,053 --> 01:41:08,772
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, nearly twenty three. And he likes he likes

2176
01:41:08,812 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 9: his roast. He never complains when there was Well, so.

2177
01:41:11,253 --> 01:41:13,333
Speaker 2: Does he come home, especially it's a Sunday tradition that

2178
01:41:13,372 --> 01:41:14,972
Speaker 2: you come home for Sunday roast or is he still

2179
01:41:15,013 --> 01:41:15,412
Speaker 2: in the house.

2180
01:41:16,933 --> 01:41:18,372
Speaker 9: Well, at the moment, he's still in the house, but

2181
01:41:18,492 --> 01:41:21,772
Speaker 9: he has actually, you know, been flatting in things. But nah,

2182
01:41:21,893 --> 01:41:25,333
Speaker 9: I guess he would claim that as his home meal

2183
01:41:25,452 --> 01:41:27,893
Speaker 9: that his mother makes. And hopefully fondly remembers it.

2184
01:41:28,812 --> 01:41:31,333
Speaker 3: And for your gravy, do you use flour or a

2185
01:41:31,372 --> 01:41:32,213
Speaker 3: bit of corn flour?

2186
01:41:33,213 --> 01:41:33,253
Speaker 7: No?

2187
01:41:33,372 --> 01:41:35,372
Speaker 9: I always use corn flowers, just the way I was taught.

2188
01:41:35,452 --> 01:41:37,253
Speaker 3: How do you get the lumps out? Because that's I

2189
01:41:37,333 --> 01:41:39,972
Speaker 3: love cornflower and it works well but gets a bit lumpy.

2190
01:41:40,173 --> 01:41:42,133
Speaker 9: Hex it with he mix it or with a bit

2191
01:41:42,173 --> 01:41:42,732
Speaker 9: of cold water.

2192
01:41:43,093 --> 01:41:45,532
Speaker 2: And final final question for you, Sharon, how are you

2193
01:41:45,692 --> 01:41:47,893
Speaker 2: dealing with the Yorkshire pud situation? Because you've got to

2194
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:49,852
Speaker 2: shove the oven up to two hundred. But if you've

2195
01:41:49,893 --> 01:41:52,452
Speaker 2: got anything else in there at the time, that's that's

2196
01:41:52,492 --> 01:41:53,652
Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of a problem. But if

2197
01:41:53,692 --> 01:41:57,052
Speaker 2: you don't get the Yorkshire puddies at for then then

2198
01:41:57,133 --> 01:41:59,092
Speaker 2: they come out all right, But then they think flat

2199
01:41:59,173 --> 01:42:01,772
Speaker 2: and there's nothing worse than having to battle through with chewy,

2200
01:42:01,853 --> 01:42:02,972
Speaker 2: unfluffy Yorkshire pud.

2201
01:42:03,053 --> 01:42:05,852
Speaker 9: Sharon, Well, I used to cook them out in the oven.

2202
01:42:05,933 --> 01:42:07,133
Speaker 9: I now cooked them in the air fry.

2203
01:42:07,572 --> 01:42:08,973
Speaker 2: Ah, I haven't tried that.

2204
01:42:10,772 --> 01:42:13,932
Speaker 9: Yeah, come out really good. As to roast potatoes, they

2205
01:42:13,973 --> 01:42:15,293
Speaker 9: are very yummy out of there as well.

2206
01:42:15,572 --> 01:42:18,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're duck fat, duck fedting those potatoes.

2207
01:42:20,213 --> 01:42:23,772
Speaker 9: No, I don't, but people do we're chrible win but

2208
01:42:24,253 --> 01:42:25,012
Speaker 9: oh I love.

2209
01:42:24,893 --> 01:42:26,372
Speaker 2: You know what, this whole chair has been so worth

2210
01:42:26,412 --> 01:42:28,652
Speaker 2: it for me just to have the Yorkshire putting in

2211
01:42:28,692 --> 01:42:30,372
Speaker 2: the for I don't know, I didn't think about that.

2212
01:42:30,532 --> 01:42:31,172
Speaker 3: That's genius.

2213
01:42:32,293 --> 01:42:33,933
Speaker 2: It's all about it. It's all about the temperature of

2214
01:42:33,973 --> 01:42:36,852
Speaker 2: the Yorkshire race. All right, thanks so much, we call Sharon.

2215
01:42:36,893 --> 01:42:38,692
Speaker 2: Thank you for your insights. That is a Sunday rast.

2216
01:42:39,013 --> 01:42:41,492
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people coming through about the past

2217
01:42:41,572 --> 01:42:45,692
Speaker 3: nips Heath. You either starting eating parsnip or I switched

2218
01:42:45,732 --> 01:42:49,692
Speaker 3: back to Hoki. That's from Herman and this one says, yep,

2219
01:42:49,772 --> 01:42:52,652
Speaker 3: he thinks thank god, someone has said up pastnips we

2220
01:42:52,732 --> 01:42:53,932
Speaker 3: should just leave them in the ground.

2221
01:42:54,253 --> 01:42:59,652
Speaker 2: Guys, God, I hate past nips. Featured it all day. Yeah,

2222
01:42:59,692 --> 01:43:00,572
Speaker 2: there's a rising time.

2223
01:43:00,692 --> 01:43:00,852
Speaker 11: You know.

2224
01:43:01,213 --> 01:43:03,213
Speaker 2: This has come up on this news article about how

2225
01:43:04,013 --> 01:43:06,053
Speaker 2: much the Sunday roast is coming back and how good

2226
01:43:06,093 --> 01:43:08,253
Speaker 2: it is for people's mental health and bringing families together.

2227
01:43:08,412 --> 01:43:11,732
Speaker 2: But it's there is also a rising tide of anti

2228
01:43:11,853 --> 01:43:14,293
Speaker 2: parsnip feeling in the community, which I thoroughly support.

2229
01:43:15,532 --> 01:43:17,932
Speaker 3: If you're what to beck the Hubble part oh eight

2230
01:43:18,013 --> 01:43:20,812
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty But also is Sunday roast

2231
01:43:20,853 --> 01:43:22,892
Speaker 3: a big thing in your household? Did the kids come

2232
01:43:22,973 --> 01:43:24,732
Speaker 3: back for the Sunday roast? And how do you do it?

2233
01:43:24,772 --> 01:43:25,852
Speaker 3: If you've got a bit of a twist to it?

2234
01:43:25,973 --> 01:43:27,572
Speaker 3: It is twenty two to four.

2235
01:43:29,013 --> 01:43:32,333
Speaker 1: Med Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

2236
01:43:32,412 --> 01:43:35,812
Speaker 1: on med Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

2237
01:43:35,853 --> 01:43:37,532
Speaker 4: It'd be I've got a massive bit of beef here

2238
01:43:37,532 --> 01:43:39,173
Speaker 4: and I'm going to cook a big beefy roast and

2239
01:43:39,173 --> 01:43:40,692
Speaker 4: I'm going to do coliflower.

2240
01:43:40,253 --> 01:43:41,533
Speaker 2: Cheese and roast potatoes.

2241
01:43:41,572 --> 01:43:44,412
Speaker 4: And the beef was sopping wet with beef wet, so

2242
01:43:44,532 --> 01:43:46,572
Speaker 4: I dried it, oiled it and salted it and then

2243
01:43:46,612 --> 01:43:48,692
Speaker 4: set it aside to become the temperature of a room.

2244
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:51,133
Speaker 4: Cauliflower cheese will be present, and I thought I'd use

2245
01:43:51,173 --> 01:43:53,772
Speaker 4: the leaves as today's greenery. I also sliced up peeled

2246
01:43:53,772 --> 01:43:56,333
Speaker 4: spuds for roasties and peeled carrots for carrots. I had

2247
01:43:56,412 --> 01:43:58,932
Speaker 4: leftover celery and some onions which would have supporting rolls

2248
01:43:58,933 --> 01:44:01,412
Speaker 4: in today's gravy. I simmered both the couliflower and the

2249
01:44:01,452 --> 01:44:03,492
Speaker 4: spuds until poked threw a ball with a knife. I

2250
01:44:03,572 --> 01:44:05,572
Speaker 4: drained them both, and then got some oil hot for

2251
01:44:05,652 --> 01:44:07,933
Speaker 4: the spuds. Salt pep and wil flowered corn and a

2252
01:44:08,013 --> 01:44:10,932
Speaker 4: bash about to create crisp edges is all that's needed here.

2253
01:44:11,093 --> 01:44:12,093
Speaker 4: Into the hot oil they went.

2254
01:44:12,133 --> 01:44:13,412
Speaker 3: But then I remembered I had.

2255
01:44:13,333 --> 01:44:15,133
Speaker 2: Some dut fat in the fridge, so that went in

2256
01:44:15,213 --> 01:44:15,492
Speaker 2: as well.

2257
01:44:15,572 --> 01:44:17,532
Speaker 4: The beef needed a seer on all of its sides,

2258
01:44:17,612 --> 01:44:20,132
Speaker 4: and I then added the celery, the onions and garlics,

2259
01:44:20,173 --> 01:44:22,253
Speaker 4: and both rosemary and thine into the oven.

2260
01:44:22,333 --> 01:44:22,772
Speaker 22: For a while.

2261
01:44:22,853 --> 01:44:24,492
Speaker 4: It did go As I shuffled the spuds on a

2262
01:44:24,532 --> 01:44:26,492
Speaker 4: hot hot I turned the oven down Here also I

2263
01:44:26,572 --> 01:44:29,012
Speaker 4: made a lovely cheese sauce, starting with a roue loads

2264
01:44:29,013 --> 01:44:31,333
Speaker 4: of blue cheese as well as conte and cheddar. Made

2265
01:44:31,372 --> 01:44:33,253
Speaker 4: this the kind of cheese sauce, but if a lactose

2266
01:44:33,293 --> 01:44:34,932
Speaker 4: intolerant person took one with off they.

2267
01:44:34,853 --> 01:44:36,012
Speaker 3: Did, you'll get their pants clean.

2268
01:44:36,093 --> 01:44:36,253
Speaker 22: Off.

2269
01:44:36,372 --> 01:44:38,612
Speaker 4: In went cooked coliflower and into a tray of oven

2270
01:44:38,652 --> 01:44:41,372
Speaker 4: proofness it went, with breadcrumbs and chili flakes atop.

2271
01:44:41,452 --> 01:44:43,133
Speaker 2: The beef needed a rest and the gravy.

2272
01:44:42,933 --> 01:44:45,852
Speaker 4: Needed making with red veno and blended cow chicken stock

2273
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:47,572
Speaker 4: topped it up, and I added a little jam for

2274
01:44:47,612 --> 01:44:50,052
Speaker 4: sweetness and soy for death. I got the collie cooking

2275
01:44:50,133 --> 01:44:52,572
Speaker 4: and strained the liquid gold gravy. I poached the carrots

2276
01:44:52,612 --> 01:44:54,333
Speaker 4: and a star and ease and bay and fused chicken

2277
01:44:54,372 --> 01:44:57,173
Speaker 4: broth for roughly ten exact minutes, and sauteed my greens

2278
01:44:57,213 --> 01:44:59,173
Speaker 4: with garlic and chili. The gravy was thickened with a

2279
01:44:59,253 --> 01:45:02,293
Speaker 4: cornflower slurry. After slicing beef flaps. It was time to

2280
01:45:02,452 --> 01:45:04,652
Speaker 4: serve up a lovely Sunday special and.

2281
01:45:04,772 --> 01:45:09,133
Speaker 2: Douse it with gravy. Just delightful roach. Do you get that?

2282
01:45:09,333 --> 01:45:12,213
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds so good. They're a very saucy roast,

2283
01:45:12,253 --> 01:45:14,452
Speaker 3: isn't it love that we trumpet in the background as well,

2284
01:45:14,572 --> 01:45:15,492
Speaker 3: really really sold it.

2285
01:45:15,732 --> 01:45:18,452
Speaker 2: I thank you Carrot and Parson. It meshed butter, salt

2286
01:45:18,532 --> 01:45:21,052
Speaker 2: and pepper, yummy ross. And there's a bunch of ticks

2287
01:45:21,093 --> 01:45:24,692
Speaker 2: coming through here stuffing your muppets. That's a good point, Like,

2288
01:45:24,772 --> 01:45:27,972
Speaker 2: if there's a chicken involved, there's got to be stuffing involved, right, Yeah,

2289
01:45:28,492 --> 01:45:30,213
Speaker 2: you've got to twist on a roast there, Johnny.

2290
01:45:31,933 --> 01:45:33,732
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, butcher's string.

2291
01:45:35,412 --> 01:45:38,732
Speaker 7: So I used to love in South lond And we

2292
01:45:38,893 --> 01:45:41,293
Speaker 7: hit a lot of Sweden passed ups and stuff like that.

2293
01:45:42,532 --> 01:45:47,933
Speaker 2: Traumatized God, I've experienced. I grew up you know, in

2294
01:45:48,013 --> 01:45:49,692
Speaker 2: Southland as well for a lot of my life, and

2295
01:45:50,253 --> 01:45:53,253
Speaker 2: sometimes my grandma would mash swede and passment together and

2296
01:45:53,333 --> 01:45:55,652
Speaker 2: too just to unholy lump on the side of the plate.

2297
01:45:57,452 --> 01:45:58,973
Speaker 17: You beat me too, I was just going to say that.

2298
01:45:59,732 --> 01:46:02,372
Speaker 8: And gall and George Street and south to they having

2299
01:46:02,772 --> 01:46:05,333
Speaker 8: mash swede with with turnips.

2300
01:46:04,933 --> 01:46:06,973
Speaker 22: And reminded me of the Black Any episode with the

2301
01:46:07,053 --> 01:46:14,772
Speaker 22: Puritans White Eddy.

2302
01:46:12,173 --> 01:46:13,973
Speaker 14: Getting the raw turn up and liking it.

2303
01:46:17,213 --> 01:46:17,852
Speaker 20: On the media.

2304
01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:18,213
Speaker 14: Stuff.

2305
01:46:18,853 --> 01:46:21,253
Speaker 7: So lamb flaps, yeah, when there was a must in

2306
01:46:21,372 --> 01:46:24,412
Speaker 7: to your head or rabbits and rabbits roasted are very.

2307
01:46:24,412 --> 01:46:25,333
Speaker 15: Very nice time.

2308
01:46:26,013 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 1: I think Jamie Oliver does a good one, but I reckon,

2309
01:46:28,973 --> 01:46:30,452
Speaker 1: you know, the humble mutton flap.

2310
01:46:30,293 --> 01:46:32,532
Speaker 15: That's from the belly you d boneet.

2311
01:46:33,213 --> 01:46:37,173
Speaker 7: You make up some stuff into your liking and and

2312
01:46:37,253 --> 01:46:38,572
Speaker 7: then you get some botch the string and you tied

2313
01:46:38,572 --> 01:46:39,293
Speaker 7: it into a roll.

2314
01:46:39,853 --> 01:46:41,772
Speaker 20: And you can do it on a skiller on the stove.

2315
01:46:41,853 --> 01:46:42,053
Speaker 8: You can.

2316
01:46:42,293 --> 01:46:42,612
Speaker 24: You can.

2317
01:46:44,213 --> 01:46:46,732
Speaker 20: Get it nice and sealed, I think it's the word.

2318
01:46:47,612 --> 01:46:51,492
Speaker 1: And then assault on that end and once they stead

2319
01:46:51,492 --> 01:46:53,052
Speaker 1: of brown and you can pop it into the oven.

2320
01:46:53,133 --> 01:46:53,812
Speaker 14: And slow cook it.

2321
01:46:54,853 --> 01:46:58,493
Speaker 12: And from there people might add their dear wine, pnegans

2322
01:46:58,612 --> 01:47:00,852
Speaker 12: or whatever, but I just keep it pretty simple.

2323
01:47:00,933 --> 01:47:03,893
Speaker 16: I've got herbs grown out the kitchen outside.

2324
01:47:03,532 --> 01:47:05,812
Speaker 2: Of the kitchen there and if you're who you're eating

2325
01:47:05,853 --> 01:47:06,853
Speaker 2: that with, Johnny.

2326
01:47:07,772 --> 01:47:10,612
Speaker 3: I mean misses and the kids and the dogs on

2327
01:47:10,692 --> 01:47:12,053
Speaker 3: the dog, the dog gets in as well.

2328
01:47:12,133 --> 01:47:12,333
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2329
01:47:12,372 --> 01:47:14,293
Speaker 2: And how good is it? As I keep saying to

2330
01:47:14,452 --> 01:47:16,372
Speaker 2: just you feel you feel like you're in touch with

2331
01:47:16,452 --> 01:47:18,013
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to be doing with life when you

2332
01:47:18,093 --> 01:47:20,732
Speaker 2: spend the bit of time cooking a big meal, cooking

2333
01:47:20,772 --> 01:47:22,852
Speaker 2: a beast and then serving up to your offspring.

2334
01:47:22,973 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel good, absolutely, Thanks, Thank you, Johnny. That

2335
01:47:27,412 --> 01:47:28,092
Speaker 3: is a nice Well.

2336
01:47:28,213 --> 01:47:30,732
Speaker 2: Sometimes I think that my my parents were running scams

2337
01:47:30,772 --> 01:47:32,772
Speaker 2: on me. Like one thing they used to say, like

2338
01:47:32,893 --> 01:47:35,053
Speaker 2: a baked bean special, and so I thought that the

2339
01:47:35,093 --> 01:47:36,893
Speaker 2: most special meal in the world was baked beans with

2340
01:47:37,053 --> 01:47:39,972
Speaker 2: cheese on it. But also the you know, off the roast,

2341
01:47:40,053 --> 01:47:42,812
Speaker 2: the string which one of your kids wants the string

2342
01:47:42,893 --> 01:47:45,532
Speaker 2: off the roast, and we'd all jump around excited about that.

2343
01:47:46,053 --> 01:47:48,052
Speaker 3: Was it a scam though? Because that was just oozing

2344
01:47:48,133 --> 01:47:50,452
Speaker 3: with fat, wasn't it? And you're the string was.

2345
01:47:50,572 --> 01:47:52,852
Speaker 2: You're just eating something about to throwing the rubbish. Your

2346
01:47:52,893 --> 01:47:54,612
Speaker 2: kids are jumping up and down excited. It's like the

2347
01:47:54,652 --> 01:47:55,693
Speaker 2: skin of the gravy.

2348
01:47:55,572 --> 01:47:58,093
Speaker 3: You know, that little part at the tail of the chicken.

2349
01:47:58,133 --> 01:47:59,692
Speaker 3: What do they call that? But it's a little kind

2350
01:47:59,772 --> 01:48:00,812
Speaker 3: of it's the end of the tail.

2351
01:48:00,853 --> 01:48:02,173
Speaker 2: That's nose.

2352
01:48:02,333 --> 01:48:03,372
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so good.

2353
01:48:03,572 --> 01:48:05,692
Speaker 2: Sage young and stuffing and the roast chok or cover

2354
01:48:05,812 --> 01:48:09,853
Speaker 2: the roast pork and bacon and then glaze it with mables, maples.

2355
01:48:09,612 --> 01:48:13,852
Speaker 3: Ben yep and this one matt homegrown passing up absolutely beautiful.

2356
01:48:13,933 --> 01:48:18,572
Speaker 2: Get amongst death to the person. Never you're on the

2357
01:48:18,652 --> 01:48:19,253
Speaker 2: mutton as well?

2358
01:48:20,812 --> 01:48:21,052
Speaker 10: Cool?

2359
01:48:22,973 --> 01:48:23,852
Speaker 3: Yeah that you never?

2360
01:48:25,492 --> 01:48:27,492
Speaker 23: Yeah, no, no, we hit last night. We had roast

2361
01:48:27,532 --> 01:48:32,732
Speaker 23: mutton and that is such a nice fat, greasy everywhere.

2362
01:48:32,973 --> 01:48:34,652
Speaker 23: You know, you got her on all the dishes and

2363
01:48:34,732 --> 01:48:38,213
Speaker 23: everything we had was that. We had kumera, We had

2364
01:48:38,293 --> 01:48:42,772
Speaker 23: roast potatoes, We had carrots done when my wife does

2365
01:48:42,812 --> 01:48:46,372
Speaker 23: it in honey does the carrots and honey. And we

2366
01:48:46,492 --> 01:48:49,772
Speaker 23: had the old old man's toes, the old yems, yeah,

2367
01:48:50,013 --> 01:48:52,852
Speaker 23: the maggots and they were old men's toes.

2368
01:48:53,213 --> 01:48:53,893
Speaker 17: We always called it.

2369
01:48:54,452 --> 01:48:57,452
Speaker 23: Yeah, and that's yeah, that was that was a really

2370
01:48:57,492 --> 01:48:57,852
Speaker 23: good feed.

2371
01:48:57,933 --> 01:48:58,372
Speaker 1: But mutton.

2372
01:48:58,452 --> 01:49:00,492
Speaker 2: You know what are you doing to the mutton? Like

2373
01:49:00,893 --> 01:49:06,333
Speaker 2: how you just roast it, salts it and roast it

2374
01:49:07,612 --> 01:49:09,613
Speaker 2: just not even salt, not insight.

2375
01:49:09,412 --> 01:49:11,812
Speaker 3: Right, Where where do you get the mutton these days?

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Speaker 3: From nivel? I mean you don't because you don't find

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Speaker 3: it in the in the supermart, don't.

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Speaker 23: You can't you can have you can hardly buy today.

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Speaker 23: My daughter is a meat inspector and who her husband

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01:49:21,372 --> 01:49:25,333
Speaker 23: is a a processed person at a meat with the

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Speaker 23: meat works, right, and then when they have their sale

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Speaker 23: day they have leaves of mutt.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so you got to know someone basically, yep, you.

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Speaker 2: Got to be Yeah, bring back mutton because I used

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Speaker 2: to be a big fan of the mutton ham at

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Speaker 2: Christmas and I prefer the mutton ham over the the

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Speaker 2: pig ham. And also a mutton pie. You can the

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Speaker 2: mutton pie is the top pie. And where I come

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Speaker 2: from is it's on the advertised out in front of

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Speaker 2: a shop, a mutton pie.

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Speaker 3: So you Southlanders you don't like parsnip, you're into the

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01:49:53,973 --> 01:49:56,452
Speaker 3: mutton ham. You just I just want to go against

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Speaker 3: the grain.

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Speaker 2: You know all this Texas says here you've brought up

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01:49:58,772 --> 01:50:01,732
Speaker 2: my personal trauma with my with the past ups. My

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01:50:01,853 --> 01:50:04,892
Speaker 2: family loved mess carrot, parsnip and swede. Just looking at

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Speaker 2: it makes me feel sick. But even the next generation

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Speaker 2: love it, so it's not come off the table anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, you want to talk about the Sunday roast?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi guys. Yeah, back in the early eighties, you know,

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Speaker 10: six seven years old, my grandparents lived five minutes away

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Speaker 10: and every Sunday we'd go around there for dinner. And

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Speaker 10: the ultimate has to be in New Zealand, the leg

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Speaker 10: of lamb, the roast legal lamb. Yeah, really sick. And

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Speaker 10: that was back in the days when you know, late

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01:50:42,253 --> 01:50:46,372
Speaker 10: in the afternoon there'd be Disney on TV. There was

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Speaker 10: two channels one and two and we'd sit around watching

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01:50:49,812 --> 01:50:53,013
Speaker 10: Disney on TV, and you know, and you'd smell the

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01:50:53,093 --> 01:50:56,933
Speaker 10: food wafting through and I'd go into the kitchen and

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Speaker 10: back in those days, the leg of lamb had some

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01:50:59,812 --> 01:51:03,133
Speaker 10: sort of extra knuckle on it, like some sort of shank.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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01:51:03,772 --> 01:51:03,972
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I always Nana Nana, and you know she was from Glasgow.

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01:51:07,973 --> 01:51:10,892
Speaker 10: She knew to do it roast and you know, can

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01:51:10,973 --> 01:51:12,012
Speaker 10: I have the little shank?

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01:51:12,133 --> 01:51:12,293
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:51:12,412 --> 01:51:13,973
Speaker 10: Yeah, So I chew away on that and it was

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01:51:14,133 --> 01:51:17,852
Speaker 10: just absolutely delicious. But sitting down for dinner around the

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01:51:17,933 --> 01:51:21,253
Speaker 10: table and the whole family's around, now you'd have your obviously,

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01:51:21,692 --> 01:51:25,812
Speaker 10: and to this day, roast potatoes are my ultimate favorite,

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01:51:27,452 --> 01:51:31,612
Speaker 10: and obviously kumera pumpkin, and then you've got your broccoli

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01:51:31,692 --> 01:51:32,732
Speaker 10: and your cauliflower with.

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01:51:32,812 --> 01:51:34,492
Speaker 8: The you make.

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01:51:37,572 --> 01:51:40,572
Speaker 10: You make a root with flour and water and butter,

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01:51:40,652 --> 01:51:42,852
Speaker 10: and then you chucking the cheese and make a cheese sauce,

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01:51:42,893 --> 01:51:44,532
Speaker 10: which is just divine.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Past I never never used to be a fan of

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01:51:47,933 --> 01:51:50,412
Speaker 10: passing it, but I hate it these days. I mean,

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01:51:50,532 --> 01:51:54,013
Speaker 10: surely it's got some goodness and extra vitamins that might

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01:51:55,053 --> 01:51:57,452
Speaker 10: add to your health. So yeah, I put that, Yeah,

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01:51:57,492 --> 01:51:58,333
Speaker 10: I'll put that away.

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01:51:59,093 --> 01:52:02,532
Speaker 3: Keep them in the ground. No more pass I can't agree.

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01:52:02,612 --> 01:52:06,412
Speaker 10: I love a good pass it, yeah, but definitely, I

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01:52:06,532 --> 01:52:10,092
Speaker 10: think the key to a good roast is the gravery

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01:52:10,612 --> 01:52:17,732
Speaker 10: gravy where you know, you we use the juices from

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01:52:17,812 --> 01:52:20,013
Speaker 10: the roast and then you use the water from the

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01:52:20,173 --> 01:52:25,052
Speaker 10: vegetables you've cooked with gravy, browning of flour and bitter seasoning.

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01:52:25,973 --> 01:52:29,933
Speaker 10: But I can't I don't think anyone's mentioned yet to

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01:52:30,612 --> 01:52:31,253
Speaker 10: make it epic.

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01:52:31,732 --> 01:52:34,532
Speaker 2: Is the mint sauce, Yes, especially with lamb.

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01:52:34,612 --> 01:52:38,333
Speaker 10: Yeah, the mint sauce ye with that. Yeah, and you

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01:52:38,412 --> 01:52:42,612
Speaker 10: know I mean that that It's just an incredible meal

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01:52:42,732 --> 01:52:45,532
Speaker 10: and it's a privilege, privilege.

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01:52:45,572 --> 01:52:46,372
Speaker 2: I'm salivating.

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01:52:46,452 --> 01:52:48,293
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of the mint sauce that

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01:52:48,412 --> 01:52:51,173
Speaker 3: I absolutely it might be Witlocks Whitlocks mint sauce.

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01:52:51,253 --> 01:52:51,492
Speaker 15: It is.

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01:52:51,692 --> 01:52:52,452
Speaker 3: It is amazing.

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01:52:53,933 --> 01:52:57,133
Speaker 2: I bought I bought some fancy pants mint sauce the

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01:52:57,213 --> 01:52:58,692
Speaker 2: other day and there's too much mint and it you

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01:52:58,732 --> 01:53:00,293
Speaker 2: can't get it out of the end of the bottle. Yeah,

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01:53:00,372 --> 01:53:01,612
Speaker 2: you just get you just need to get the big

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01:53:01,652 --> 01:53:02,173
Speaker 2: plastic one.

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01:53:02,492 --> 01:53:04,293
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. It's missed the old mint sauce

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01:53:04,333 --> 01:53:05,692
Speaker 3: and you've got to find the right one. But yees,

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01:53:05,732 --> 01:53:06,412
Speaker 3: spot on, Mike.

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01:53:07,933 --> 01:53:09,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank if you call Mike, appreciate it.

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01:53:10,372 --> 01:53:13,692
Speaker 3: I think we've got time for Steve. Get a Steve,

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01:53:13,812 --> 01:53:15,133
Speaker 3: you want to talk about Granny's roast?

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01:53:16,213 --> 01:53:19,492
Speaker 27: Yeah, Grannie's roast about forty years ago. Once a month

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01:53:19,772 --> 01:53:24,493
Speaker 27: it would be your standard veg. So did be your spuds,

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01:53:24,652 --> 01:53:31,052
Speaker 27: your Comera yams, one hundred broccoli or collie and cheese

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01:53:31,093 --> 01:53:36,652
Speaker 27: sauce with some chopped up parsley in it nice. Definitely

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01:53:36,853 --> 01:53:37,652
Speaker 27: Yorkie pods.

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01:53:37,812 --> 01:53:38,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ykie pods.

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01:53:38,812 --> 01:53:41,293
Speaker 27: Definitely a gravy boat in the middle of the table,

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01:53:42,452 --> 01:53:47,572
Speaker 27: and the protein was a beef wing ribbed fully salted,

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01:53:48,333 --> 01:53:52,652
Speaker 27: and you cannot beat that. You get those Yorkie pods,

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01:53:52,732 --> 01:53:54,412
Speaker 27: you pull them with a bit of butter, a bit

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01:53:54,452 --> 01:53:57,293
Speaker 27: of gravy and a bit of beef. Yes, pick them

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01:53:57,372 --> 01:53:58,852
Speaker 27: up and eat them like a little sammy.

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01:53:59,093 --> 01:54:04,492
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're talking to me. And have you ever

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01:54:04,532 --> 01:54:07,293
Speaker 2: tried have you ever a horse right of chips? So lete?

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01:54:07,412 --> 01:54:09,452
Speaker 2: Have you tried making just a massive Yorkshire and putting

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01:54:09,492 --> 01:54:11,452
Speaker 2: the whole roast inside the mass of Yorkshire?

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01:54:12,412 --> 01:54:15,093
Speaker 27: Well, actually, my mother used to make that for breakfast,

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01:54:15,133 --> 01:54:17,732
Speaker 27: and she'd call it Sweet Yorkshire's and she'd make a

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01:54:17,812 --> 01:54:21,213
Speaker 27: hole like a dish the size of a dinner plate

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01:54:21,372 --> 01:54:23,892
Speaker 27: and we'd filled in with jam and cream for brecky.

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01:54:24,173 --> 01:54:25,572
Speaker 2: Ooh god, that's good.

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01:54:25,732 --> 01:54:27,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's making me hungry.

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01:54:27,412 --> 01:54:30,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, how freaking good. I remember an episode of Coronation

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01:54:30,772 --> 01:54:33,533
Speaker 2: Street when I was a kid and someone came home

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01:54:33,653 --> 01:54:36,093
Speaker 2: with Yorkshire puddings but they brought them from the shop,

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01:54:36,173 --> 01:54:39,093
Speaker 2: and I can just remember the line store bought yorks chees.

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01:54:39,733 --> 01:54:43,053
Speaker 2: I'm not eating store bought yorkses.

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01:54:43,133 --> 01:54:47,932
Speaker 3: Good people, right O one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. We might have time for

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Speaker 3: another few calls coming up. It is eight to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 2: I didn't get around to my confession that I always

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01:55:10,213 --> 01:55:11,972
Speaker 2: put a lentil roast in with my roast.

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01:55:12,093 --> 01:55:13,892
Speaker 3: There it is, that's right at the start.

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01:55:13,933 --> 01:55:15,333
Speaker 2: I mean there's a meat, there's a protein part of

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01:55:15,373 --> 01:55:17,173
Speaker 2: as well, but the Heath tradition of the lentil roast,

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Speaker 2: it's delicious. Don't judge me till you've tried it. I

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01:55:18,933 --> 01:55:22,092
Speaker 2: can't agree more about parsnips. They not only taste terrible,

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01:55:22,133 --> 01:55:25,533
Speaker 2: they also behave terribly, like celery and fig leaves. They

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01:55:25,613 --> 01:55:29,173
Speaker 2: contain some word I can't pronounce, and they do terrible

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01:55:29,173 --> 01:55:32,132
Speaker 2: things to your past ups are disgusting. Pastips are the greatest.

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01:55:32,933 --> 01:55:36,852
Speaker 2: How do you say this about passnips? Parsnips roasted? You're

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01:55:36,853 --> 01:55:39,093
Speaker 2: an idiot. Past ups were all all right.

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Speaker 3: one o'clock.

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