1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Barry soperwer Senior political correspondence with me in the studio. Hey, Barry, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: good afternoon, Heather. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: Right. 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: So the farm Ac announcement as you predicted. 5 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I said on Friday, there will be six hundred 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: million dollars on the table. Farmac will be given the money. 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: They'll be told you've got to cough up for the 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: cancer drugs that we said that we were going to 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: deliver during the election campaign. 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Can't tell us to make that farm MacX independent. You 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: can tell them to buy the drugs. 12 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 13 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Are they doing the old wink wink luch nights. 14 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean there's no doubt 15 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: in the government's mind. Anyway. Farm Mac's got other ideas. 16 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: They'll be in big trouble because both Christopher Luxen and 17 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: David Seymour saying it's a great day for New Zealand 18 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: that the's not only thirteen the one they'll be getting 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: seven drugs. I think of the thirteen and the remainder 20 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: are so forget. They've got to wait until October November. 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: And this is going to mean less spending the next 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: year's budget because this money is basically predicated on next 23 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: year's budget, So. 24 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: The pilfering money from next year's budget meetings right for stuff. 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: That's the way it's been done. So that thing is 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: great because there will be over twenty six I think 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: it is twenty six cancer treatments and twenty eight other 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: treatments that will be funded by the six hundred odd 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: million dollars. Now, Luxon admits they could have handled it 30 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: better than announcing those drugs during the election campaign and 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: they're not delivering them in the budget because there was 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: such as you know, an absolute backlash. He attempted to 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: explain how it happened that Farmac was meant to be 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: independent from the government but ended up as the delivery body. 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Well, it was an attempt to try and get thirteen 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: cancer drugs that weren't available to New ze Islanders, you know, 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: by essentially working outside the farming system. As we came 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: to government, it became pretty obvious we've got a good model, 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: why would we want to create a second model. And 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: it's important that we could actually embed it into the 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: FARMAC model. And that's a lot of what our com 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: has been over recent months. But we've actually got farmak 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: able to purchase fifty four drugs that they previously couldn't do. 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: That are going to be very helpful. This is the 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: exciting part. This is a great day for many New Zealanders. 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well it's a great day for FARMAC, though, 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: is it. If they really do want to preserve their independence, 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: let's been. 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: Compromised, like, let's see the bigger picture right for people 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: who need to think. 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: It's fantastic, but they should have delivered the way it's 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: normally delivered. 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: So it's Parliament sitting this week. Yeah, this week, it's. 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Going to be a tough week because of course the 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: FARMAC thing, they'll hope will deflect from what's been going on. 56 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: And yesterday they hope there would be a bit of 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: deflection in the law and order package they announced on 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: a Sunday, And of course they also talked about the 59 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: military style boot camps for young offenders. Now there'll be 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: they'll be a there'll be one ten person pilot in 61 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Palmerston North and that'll run for years. So we're still 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: quite a long way off those boot camps now. Simeon 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: Brown he had a very busy week next week and 64 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: he'll be no last week sorry, and he'll be no 65 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: doubt accounting for it this week because he was between 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: North Northland and over the past week first responding to 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: that pylon's collapse, and then our terri's are running aground. 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: So you know, what a terrible time. 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm just loving the story about the power pylon. 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: Well, I guess worse than we thought. It wasn't just 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: two floody leagues, it was three exactly. 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable that why would you take the bolts out 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: of a pylon that's carrying Goodness only knows how much 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: weight and electricity was a well, who knows. They're going 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: to have an independent inquiry. I'm sorry. Like I said 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: last week, I volunteered to head that inquiry because it 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: was pretty obvious what happened. You only had to look 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: at the on with its legs in the air and 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: clean bolt holes. Those plates would have been destroyed when 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: it fell over if in fact the bolts were still 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: in place. So it was pretty obvious. But what an 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: abomination that is. 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: Really, do you think you're going to make it into 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: the Jinda Ardurn movie? Will you just be cast as 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 4: sort of generic generic arking dog from this side, You'll 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: just be the like the entire press pack is having 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 4: a crack at her represents Barry Soper. 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you think I think you'll be the villain? 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: She used to call me a grumpy old man at times. 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: I can't believe it. 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: Very sober, Thank you very much. 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: Could you do that? 93 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Seeing your political correspondent. 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 95 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 96 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.