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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks at b.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes to eleven on News Talks. He'd be

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Speaker 2: just to keep you up to speed with things for

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Speaker 2: the black Caps England Third Test in Hamilton today, kicking

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Speaker 2: off at eleven o'clock. The English have won the toss.

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Speaker 2: They've put New Zealand into bat and just so you know,

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Speaker 2: Mitchell Santner, as expected as replaced Smith in the starting lineup.

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Speaker 2: Time to catch up with our Textbert Paul stenhouses with

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Speaker 2: us this morning, Kilda.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So General Motors, the massive American auto company, has decided

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Speaker 2: it is getting out of the self driving taxi business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're saying it's too competitive, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: probably also too expensive because they have pumped billions of

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Speaker 3: dollars into this business and now they're kind of saying

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Speaker 3: that if you want to take it right to where

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Speaker 3: it probably needs to go, you need to spend even

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Speaker 3: more time, even more resources to scale it, and it's

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Speaker 3: just kind of not worth it. And they've already got

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Speaker 3: people writing these things in Houston, in Dallas, Phoenix, and

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Speaker 3: in the San Francisco Bay area too. But they instead

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Speaker 3: of going to get the engineering teams Jack to focus

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Speaker 3: on what is known in the industry as L three

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Speaker 3: self driving technology, which is that sort of semi autonomous

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Speaker 3: kind of driving right activity, so like at the Osler basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so if you're at slow speed, so in maybe like

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Speaker 3: parking lots, you know, getting in and out of type spots,

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Speaker 3: that type of thing, or on highways, that's considered L three.

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Speaker 3: So they want your Chevies, they want your Cadillacs to

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Speaker 3: be able to do that, and that's why they're now

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Speaker 3: pivoting their resources to go and focus right in on

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Speaker 3: your everyday kind of personal vehicle, your commercial vehicle, instead

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Speaker 3: of trying to focus on these robotaxis.

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Speaker 2: I was in Phoenix a couple of six weeks ago

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Speaker 2: or so for in the bill ups of the election,

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Speaker 2: and I saw the robotaxis. They were and they were amazing,

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Speaker 2: like to that, but I mean, incredible technology, But it

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Speaker 2: did seem to me to be a bit of a novelty. No, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: from a consumer perspective, someone needing to ride in a taxi.

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Speaker 2: Were they cheaper? Was it like than having a human being? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Fuddly enough, I don't actually think they were, Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: I imagine they're trying to recoup their costs of the

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Speaker 4: like they bought this company for a billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: I think it was maybe close to ten years ago,

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Speaker 3: maybe not even from trying to remember correctly, but they

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Speaker 3: said they've spent like ten billion dollars pumping money into

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Speaker 3: this thing. My goodness, So it's not Yeah, it's probably

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Speaker 3: actually cheaper just to have a human behind the wheel

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Speaker 3: at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose. So, okay, very interesting. Now, TikTok

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Speaker 2: is supposed to be taken away from Google and Apple

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Speaker 2: in the US from next month, right January nineteenth. I

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Speaker 2: think it is. What's going to happen?

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Speaker 3: I know the countdown is on. Well, the lawmakers who

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Speaker 3: are on the China Committee have basically said to Apple

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Speaker 3: and to Google, get ready because it's coming. They wrote

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Speaker 3: to their CEOs and said, you need to be ready

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Speaker 3: to remove TikTok from the app stores. And I did

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Speaker 3: wonder what else will kind of happen when this band

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Speaker 3: takes place? Are we going to see a China Great

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Speaker 3: Firewall type serreo, No, we're not. If you already have

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Speaker 3: the app downloaded, you're okay kind of ok. It's not

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Speaker 3: going to have to be removed from your phone. Right,

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Speaker 3: there's not going to be some like script the Apple

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Speaker 3: or Google runs that will pull it off your device.

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Speaker 3: It will continue to work, but I mean, TikTok is

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Speaker 3: banned under this from providing ongoing support and maintenance, so

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Speaker 3: eventually it's going to stop working. The only thing that

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Speaker 3: is going to stop this now between now and Jen

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Speaker 3: nineteen is either if the Supreme Court takes it up

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Speaker 3: and weighs in and acts in favor of TikTok, or

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Speaker 3: if President Biden or Trump grants a ninety day extension

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Speaker 3: to allow them to actually sell this. Because at the

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Speaker 3: moment I say that they're not going to TikTok is

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Speaker 3: still branding itself and I thought this was interesting in

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Speaker 3: their latest release, one of the nation's most popular speech platforms.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a feeling they're going to argue in

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court that there are speech is here? But yeah,

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Speaker 3: seventy million monthly users in the United States, so this

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Speaker 3: is this is a large app and people are going

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Speaker 3: to feel this if their beloved TikTok goes away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's gonna be fascinating to watch. It

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Speaker 2: feels like the sort of thing that's going to go

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Speaker 2: right to the line as well. Right, if it's on

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Speaker 2: January nineteenth, it's going to be January eighteenth, eleven fifty

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Speaker 2: nine pm when all of a sudden, some decision is

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Speaker 2: made and we will.

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Speaker 3: Have what Mark Zuckerberg buys it for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you think? Yeah, hey, Paul, while I've got you.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that news out of Google this week

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Speaker 2: with their Willow chip.

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Speaker 3: I almost wanted to talk about it because that I

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Speaker 3: almost didn't talk about it because the number that I

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Speaker 3: saw that Google had put how fast their quantum computing

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Speaker 3: can now do the same task of today, had so

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Speaker 3: many zeros Jack, I didn't even know how to pronounce it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it sounded like it was a number so large

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Speaker 2: that I thought this could just be a made up number, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's so just to give people some context here,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you knew that out of on it

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Speaker 2: as well, because I've been trying to I've been trying

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Speaker 2: to talk to people about it, and no one seems

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Speaker 2: that engage and I just think it's the most interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: So basically, well, there's the other reason why I didn't

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Speaker 3: bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the Google chip, and he was like,

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Speaker 2: come on, we've got more important things right now. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they've got this new computer chip that is a quantum

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Speaker 2: computing chip that takes five minutes to solve a problem

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Speaker 2: that would currently take the world's fastest supercomputer ten septillion

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Speaker 2: years to compete.

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Speaker 3: So that's anyone really understood.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen, I'm just kidding them. Now twenty one, it's ten.

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Speaker 2: It's ten with twenty four zeros after it. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: would take it that many years in five minutes.

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Speaker 3: We struggled to go from like a million dollars to

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Speaker 3: ten million dollars in our minds, yeah, one hundred million

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Speaker 3: to a billion, and now we're up to what twenty

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Speaker 3: four zeros.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. But apparently to make it work, they've got

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Speaker 2: to have this supercomputer, this this quantum computer where they

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Speaker 2: have to I didn't realize this. They have to chill

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Speaker 2: the heart of the computer to something like minus four

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty degrees celsius in order to make this work.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen it. It's got like all these wires

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Speaker 3: and stuff hanging out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks I mean, you'd expect a few wires,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you. Yeah, yeah, Anyway, I'm glad that you nerded

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Speaker 2: out on that as well, because I was just fascinated

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Speaker 2: by that when I saw what they were achieving with it.

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Speaker 2: So watch the space, I suppose. Thank you so much, Paul,

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Speaker 2: We will catch you again very soon. That is our

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Speaker 2: textbook port and fellow nerd Paul Stenhouse with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is nineteen to eleven, our Master of

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