1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,827 Speaker 1: from Newstalks, ed b. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,947 Speaker 2: Pen Oct Wellington and Bet. 4 00:00:16,347 --> 00:00:20,427 Speaker 1: I figure this came over they know, but they have 5 00:00:20,587 --> 00:00:22,627 Speaker 1: won the ran Furley Shield. 6 00:00:23,107 --> 00:00:24,907 Speaker 3: Oh, they are lugging big time. 7 00:00:25,547 --> 00:00:29,427 Speaker 1: Nineteen twelve Wellington over hawks By. 8 00:00:29,587 --> 00:00:32,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was Wellington winning the Ranfurley Shield almost 9 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:35,507 Speaker 2: exactly two years to the day ago. Actually beating hawks 10 00:00:35,547 --> 00:00:39,107 Speaker 2: Bay nineteen twelve in Napier a couple of years ago. 11 00:00:39,147 --> 00:00:43,467 Speaker 2: They fended off six challenges before hawks By eventually won 12 00:00:43,547 --> 00:00:45,547 Speaker 2: it back off them last year. Now the Lions get 13 00:00:45,547 --> 00:00:49,427 Speaker 2: another crack this afternoon. Wellington first five Jackson Garden bashop 14 00:00:49,667 --> 00:00:52,427 Speaker 2: as whether Sar Jackson, thanks for taking the call, Oat 15 00:00:52,427 --> 00:00:54,267 Speaker 2: of know you're getting close to kick off down. They're 16 00:00:54,307 --> 00:00:57,747 Speaker 2: six from six for Wellington the season. What's beaten behind 17 00:00:57,747 --> 00:00:59,027 Speaker 2: your excellent consistency? 18 00:00:59,867 --> 00:01:02,427 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if we've been anywhere near consistent yet. 19 00:01:02,467 --> 00:01:04,867 Speaker 3: There's been some pretty ugly wins, but we've been finding 20 00:01:04,907 --> 00:01:08,467 Speaker 3: a way, which is a good thing. And we've gone 21 00:01:08,467 --> 00:01:10,787 Speaker 3: pretty deep into our squad over the last couple of games. 22 00:01:10,787 --> 00:01:14,147 Speaker 3: So you know, it hasn't always been pretty, but you're 23 00:01:14,147 --> 00:01:15,347 Speaker 3: not finding away to win. It's good. 24 00:01:15,547 --> 00:01:17,547 Speaker 2: Why do you think that beautiful rugby has been a 25 00:01:17,547 --> 00:01:18,547 Speaker 2: bit harsh to come by. 26 00:01:20,787 --> 00:01:24,027 Speaker 3: A lot due to weather for our home games, some 27 00:01:24,107 --> 00:01:26,147 Speaker 3: of them more exciting way we played against Canterbury when 28 00:01:26,187 --> 00:01:29,467 Speaker 3: it was the first funny day that we had, first 29 00:01:29,467 --> 00:01:32,547 Speaker 3: game against Auckland, we defended really well, had to come 30 00:01:32,547 --> 00:01:34,427 Speaker 3: from behind against Mono too, So there's been a couple 31 00:01:34,467 --> 00:01:37,027 Speaker 3: of different situations that we've have been put in so 32 00:01:37,067 --> 00:01:39,147 Speaker 3: far and we're sort of managed to find a way. 33 00:01:39,187 --> 00:01:42,707 Speaker 3: So that's a that's a positive for us, but you know, 34 00:01:42,707 --> 00:01:45,627 Speaker 3: we would like to start playing some consistently good rugby. 35 00:01:45,907 --> 00:01:48,947 Speaker 2: You mentioned going deep into your squadron storm week. Of course, 36 00:01:48,987 --> 00:01:51,627 Speaker 2: this is your third game in eight days. Uh could 37 00:01:51,707 --> 00:01:53,987 Speaker 2: that be a factor or did you did enough if 38 00:01:53,987 --> 00:01:56,267 Speaker 2: you get a rest on Wednesday night to make sure 39 00:01:56,267 --> 00:01:57,187 Speaker 2: that it's not a factor. 40 00:01:58,507 --> 00:02:00,827 Speaker 3: I think we've been managed pretty well by the coaching starts. 41 00:02:00,827 --> 00:02:02,747 Speaker 3: So they put a lot of faith in any young 42 00:02:02,787 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 3: squad on Wednesday night against against Otago and they did 43 00:02:05,387 --> 00:02:07,747 Speaker 3: a job. And I think only two of the boys 44 00:02:07,787 --> 00:02:11,187 Speaker 3: that started that game are starting today, so everyone should 45 00:02:11,387 --> 00:02:13,747 Speaker 3: should be ready to go. I think have you. 46 00:02:13,707 --> 00:02:16,027 Speaker 2: Tried to treat this like a normal game, or have 47 00:02:16,107 --> 00:02:19,627 Speaker 2: you in fact embraced the fact that it's a shield challenge. 48 00:02:20,867 --> 00:02:22,747 Speaker 3: I think you've definitely just got to embrace it early, 49 00:02:24,627 --> 00:02:27,627 Speaker 3: acknowledged how big the occasion is, how exciting it is, 50 00:02:27,707 --> 00:02:29,507 Speaker 3: how awesome is going to be to play in front 51 00:02:29,507 --> 00:02:33,387 Speaker 3: of a sold our park. But then just as quickly 52 00:02:33,387 --> 00:02:36,027 Speaker 3: you need to take it back to what's important, which 53 00:02:36,107 --> 00:02:39,587 Speaker 3: is our process, our game, because you know, outside the lines, 54 00:02:39,827 --> 00:02:42,307 Speaker 3: nothing is going to contribute to the win other than 55 00:02:42,347 --> 00:02:43,667 Speaker 3: the twenty three that are taking the part. 56 00:02:44,267 --> 00:02:46,187 Speaker 2: You were part of, the seller of the side, the 57 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:48,267 Speaker 2: Wellington side that won it a couple of years back, 58 00:02:48,267 --> 00:02:49,907 Speaker 2: first time that have been in the Capital for ages 59 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:52,707 Speaker 2: since about nine. I think how special a moment is 60 00:02:52,707 --> 00:02:54,187 Speaker 2: it to win the RN Fairly Shield. 61 00:02:56,587 --> 00:02:59,227 Speaker 3: It's awesome. It's hard enough to get a game where 62 00:02:59,267 --> 00:03:00,987 Speaker 3: we get to play for it, let alone win it. 63 00:03:02,307 --> 00:03:04,747 Speaker 3: When we won it last time, that was our third 64 00:03:04,747 --> 00:03:09,107 Speaker 3: crack at Hawk's Bay for the shield, so you know, 65 00:03:09,387 --> 00:03:12,667 Speaker 3: it was really exciting and you know, really satisfying. 66 00:03:12,947 --> 00:03:14,867 Speaker 2: I know a few of the team were around when 67 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:17,067 Speaker 2: you won it, and then we're there last year when 68 00:03:17,387 --> 00:03:19,507 Speaker 2: there were you know a bunch of defenses. But is 69 00:03:19,587 --> 00:03:21,267 Speaker 2: a true Brad Shields has never had it. 70 00:03:22,427 --> 00:03:24,067 Speaker 3: He's never held the shield. I think he's played one 71 00:03:24,107 --> 00:03:26,867 Speaker 3: game for it in twenty fourteen. But he's pretty pump. 72 00:03:26,947 --> 00:03:27,947 Speaker 3: He's pretty pumped for this one. 73 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:30,187 Speaker 2: It's going to say, guys done so much in his 74 00:03:30,267 --> 00:03:32,187 Speaker 2: rugby career, be like a little kid, wouldn't he? 75 00:03:32,947 --> 00:03:35,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, that's the thing. You there's so many good 76 00:03:35,067 --> 00:03:37,067 Speaker 3: players that have played for such a long, long amount 77 00:03:37,067 --> 00:03:39,147 Speaker 3: of time and you know, never win it or never 78 00:03:39,187 --> 00:03:41,667 Speaker 3: even get to play for it. So we're lucky that 79 00:03:41,947 --> 00:03:43,987 Speaker 3: Tasman got it off Falk's Day last week and now 80 00:03:44,027 --> 00:03:46,387 Speaker 3: and now we've we've stumbled up on a on a challenge, 81 00:03:46,427 --> 00:03:47,987 Speaker 3: so it's so exciting. 82 00:03:48,427 --> 00:03:51,147 Speaker 2: You've got Billy Proctor and Ruben Love back for this 83 00:03:51,227 --> 00:03:55,027 Speaker 2: one as well, is there there's no danger of disruption 84 00:03:55,107 --> 00:03:56,467 Speaker 2: with those guys coming back as there. 85 00:03:57,347 --> 00:03:58,947 Speaker 3: Now they've been a part of this team for for 86 00:03:58,987 --> 00:04:02,267 Speaker 3: a long time, you know, and you know we're pretty 87 00:04:02,347 --> 00:04:04,947 Speaker 3: we're pretty tight off the field as a group and 88 00:04:04,947 --> 00:04:06,547 Speaker 3: they're and they're they're a big part of that. So 89 00:04:06,587 --> 00:04:08,467 Speaker 3: it's more about just getting getting over a little bit 90 00:04:08,467 --> 00:04:12,027 Speaker 3: of detail. But they slop back in nicely. 91 00:04:11,987 --> 00:04:15,387 Speaker 2: Okay, and beyond this, you know it's it's just one game, 92 00:04:15,427 --> 00:04:17,947 Speaker 2: I know, but a special special trophy on the line 93 00:04:17,987 --> 00:04:21,747 Speaker 2: this afternoon, but are also equally determined to try and 94 00:04:21,747 --> 00:04:23,387 Speaker 2: lift the MPC trophy but later on. 95 00:04:23,347 --> 00:04:26,067 Speaker 3: As well, one hundred percent. But like you say, one 96 00:04:26,067 --> 00:04:28,787 Speaker 3: week at a time. Well to get the ship the 97 00:04:29,067 --> 00:04:32,867 Speaker 3: shield today and five points and then hopefully play some 98 00:04:32,907 --> 00:04:35,107 Speaker 3: good rugby and doing so and good. 99 00:04:34,907 --> 00:04:37,707 Speaker 2: News to I know we're here to talk about the shield, 100 00:04:37,707 --> 00:04:39,747 Speaker 2: but you'll be back in Super Rugby next year with 101 00:04:40,107 --> 00:04:42,267 Speaker 2: Mowana PACIFICA great to see that news. How did that 102 00:04:42,307 --> 00:04:42,907 Speaker 2: all come about? 103 00:04:44,107 --> 00:04:47,267 Speaker 3: Ah, just as as a sort of an unfolded that 104 00:04:47,307 --> 00:04:49,147 Speaker 3: I was going to be coming back to New Zealand 105 00:04:49,147 --> 00:04:51,827 Speaker 3: and staying in New Zealand for the next few whiles. 106 00:04:51,867 --> 00:04:54,227 Speaker 3: Sort of the feelers out to see if anyone would 107 00:04:54,267 --> 00:04:56,067 Speaker 3: be interested in there, and they come back and they were, 108 00:04:56,107 --> 00:04:58,827 Speaker 3: and I was extremely grateful that they were, and I'm 109 00:04:58,827 --> 00:05:01,027 Speaker 3: really excited to be a part of that. I think 110 00:05:01,027 --> 00:05:03,187 Speaker 3: it's a as a call team, it's a it's a 111 00:05:03,227 --> 00:05:06,267 Speaker 3: call movement and they've been building something special over the 112 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:09,307 Speaker 3: the last few years. So then I'm keen to contribute 113 00:05:09,307 --> 00:05:10,107 Speaker 3: as much as I cantle it. 114 00:05:10,227 --> 00:05:11,587 Speaker 2: Oh good to have that to look forward to in 115 00:05:11,627 --> 00:05:14,027 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. For the meantime, it's this afternoon. I've 116 00:05:14,067 --> 00:05:16,067 Speaker 2: seen you lead the team song. I think, well, I'm 117 00:05:16,067 --> 00:05:18,347 Speaker 2: not sure if you're in Dunedin, but certainly let the 118 00:05:18,387 --> 00:05:21,187 Speaker 2: team victory song five times. Hope you get the chance 119 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:22,707 Speaker 2: to do it again, this stuffternoon, Jackson. 120 00:05:23,187 --> 00:05:24,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good part of the day. 121 00:05:24,867 --> 00:05:27,507 Speaker 2: Oh good on you mate, thanks for taking that call, Jackson. 122 00:05:27,547 --> 00:05:29,867 Speaker 2: Garden Baship who will line up at first five for 123 00:05:30,067 --> 00:05:33,907 Speaker 2: Wellington against Tasman this afternoon as they try and prize 124 00:05:33,907 --> 00:05:37,387 Speaker 2: the ranfully shield away from the Muckle who I'm sure 125 00:05:37,427 --> 00:05:40,467 Speaker 2: will be equally determined to make sure that it stays 126 00:05:40,587 --> 00:05:42,707 Speaker 2: in their region for a little while longer. 127 00:05:43,507 --> 00:05:46,707 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 128 00:05:46,827 --> 00:05:50,107 Speaker 1: to News Talk z B weekends from midday or follow 129 00:05:50,147 --> 00:05:51,747 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.