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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the my Casking Breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the impossible news,

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Speaker 1: Tom Dawning.

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Speaker 2: You welcome today the police report and the ensuing scandal.

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Speaker 2: Richard Chambers with us along with the Police Minister, the

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Speaker 2: gun reforms that kind of well weren't and more good

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Speaker 2: news for terrorism and politics. Wednesday after rate Richard Arnold

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Speaker 2: State sidees dep price out of Australia for us as well. Pasky,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the day seven past six. Slightly old message

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Speaker 2: I thought yesterday from Labor over the Maori Party as

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Speaker 2: they try and work out how to deal with them.

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Speaker 2: The truth is they will need them to form a

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Speaker 2: government if they get their numbers to a point of victory.

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Speaker 2: Now there's no way the Greens and Labor alone will

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Speaker 2: come close to crossing the line first. So small reiteration

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Speaker 2: in case you missed it a month or so back.

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Speaker 2: None of this matters because the current government will be

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Speaker 2: re elected on what I am calling November seven, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six election day. But for argument's sake, the Hitkins

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Speaker 2: comments that they're going to campaign vigorously in Maory seats

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Speaker 2: with no concern. If that happens with no consumed that

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Speaker 2: you know, it might mean they wipe the Maory Party out.

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Speaker 2: It rings awfully hollow given I watched them campaign vigorously

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Speaker 2: the other day in the Auckland Maray seat and two

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Speaker 2: things happened. One no one turned up and two those

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Speaker 2: that did vote for the Murray Party. It was the

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Speaker 2: most shockingly inept display of modern campaigning, or lack of it,

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Speaker 2: have seen in many a long year. My guess is

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Speaker 2: what's happening to the Maray Party will not affect the

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Speaker 2: vote for the Murray Party. White to Ta and Co.

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Speaker 2: Are clearly liked in their seats and there is no

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Speaker 2: reason to believe they won't get back. Further. Most of

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Speaker 2: the Labour candidates will be on the list anyway, so

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Speaker 2: why not get two for one? Which brings us back

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Speaker 2: to yesterday's so called announcement. It's a sham talk tough,

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Speaker 2: get a headline, hope it flies. The big, big issue

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Speaker 2: for Labor, apart from the fact that they're still poisoned

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Speaker 2: by their last stabbed power, is the fact their so

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Speaker 2: called partners and nuts and most of us know it.

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Speaker 2: Vote for Labor all you want, if you can stomach

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Speaker 2: the incompetence, but having done that, stand by for the

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Speaker 2: circus that comes with the green to the Marray Party.

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Speaker 2: It's calamitous with a capital calamitus. At some point Hipkins

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Speaker 2: will have to face the fact we need some detail.

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Speaker 2: Who's out, what are the bottom lines. That's where the

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Speaker 2: real rubber hits the road for the voter. Yesterday's heart

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Speaker 2: Hear exercise is seen for what it.

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Speaker 1: Is news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: A lot of places around the world are marking Armistice Day.

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Speaker 3: When we remember, we connect with service in a personal way,

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Speaker 3: and when we wear a red poppy or take a

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Speaker 3: moment of silence, we are saying thank you, we have

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Speaker 3: not forgotten and we will not forget.

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Speaker 2: Britain is actually quite busy this morning. The new national

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Speaker 2: sport of letting prisoners out in correctly is taking off.

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Speaker 4: We understand that there are three mistakenly released prisoners currently

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Speaker 4: lawfully at large. Their prison records show none of these

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Speaker 4: are convicted sex offenders.

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Speaker 2: Being the bloke who quit the BBC has been giving

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Speaker 2: interviews to the BBC about how cal the BBC really is.

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Speaker 5: I'm fiercely proud of this organization. There are difficult you know,

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Speaker 5: there are difficult times. It goes through, but it just

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Speaker 5: does good work.

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Speaker 6: We are the very.

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Speaker 5: Best of what I think we should be as a society.

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Speaker 2: How much cool aid is there?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: The government has also decided to limit intel to the

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Speaker 2: US because of their predilection for blowing up drug boats.

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Speaker 7: The UK is deeply uncomfortable with the US military's strikes

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Speaker 7: on these boats, thinks that they are actually blatantly illegal

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Speaker 7: and that they violate international law, and does not want

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Speaker 7: to share intelligence with the US to target boats and

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Speaker 7: kill everyone on board.

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Speaker 2: And they have also launched a plan to stop testing on.

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Speaker 8: Animals, the idea that we can eliminate animal use in

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Speaker 8: the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 9: I don't think he's there. Can we get very close

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Speaker 9: to it? I think we can. Can we push faster

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Speaker 9: than we have been? I think we can? Should? We

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Speaker 9: We absolutely should.

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Speaker 2: The instate side, the shutdown is almost sorted, but not

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Speaker 2: enough to fix the old Thanksgiving any travel.

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Speaker 10: Air traffic controllers get paid every other week, they miss

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Speaker 10: this Monday, So even in the best case scenario, it'll

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Speaker 10: be the Monday before Thanksgiving that they're hopefully not calling out.

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Speaker 10: So it's really Dicey. I expect we'll have some turbulence.

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Speaker 2: Finally jailed time for him and Kwan. You know who

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Speaker 2: is the bitcoin queen. She nicked over eleven villion in

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Speaker 2: bitcoin out of a ponzi scheme. She was actually found

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Speaker 2: by police seven years ago, but she faked being bedridden

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Speaker 2: and having a brain injury and the police thought at

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Speaker 2: that point they had the wrong person. So she was

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Speaker 2: on the run for six or seven years. Was caught

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Speaker 2: trying to buy multiple mansions in the UK, but at

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Speaker 2: a giveaway, so she's off now for eleven years. There

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Speaker 2: is news of the world in ninety as you're speaking

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Speaker 2: of Britain. That's the other thing that's going on there

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Speaker 2: this morning. The old pond mark and the pound has

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Speaker 2: been a problem, volatile as the official word, because unemployment

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Speaker 2: came in it rose more than expected, hit five percent

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Speaker 2: for three months to September. Number of payroll workers fell,

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Speaker 2: so they've got major problems of head ahead of the

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Speaker 2: budget of course. Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get a bit of this this morning.

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Speaker 2: Mic wasn't Chamber as part of the leadership team at

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Speaker 2: the Police. We've got all the answers for you, fear

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Speaker 2: not will inform you as the morning unfolds. A Senate

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Speaker 2: shut down all almost sorted, not quite, Richard Arnold shortly,

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Speaker 2: but we may in the next day or so have

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Speaker 2: a deal between the US and Switzerland. Remember they got

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Speaker 2: whacked with the thirty nine percent for reasons no one

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Speaker 2: can still work out. It might be the pharmaceutical business,

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Speaker 2: because apart from that it's watches, jewelry and machinery. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: the word is from the States this morning. They're looking

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Speaker 2: to cut a way better deal a fifteen past I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: In partner Isandra Killah, good morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: We've got any good news on the card spending.

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Speaker 8: This is one of my favorite data series, and I

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Speaker 8: do love a good data series, Mike.

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Speaker 9: This is the monthly review.

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Speaker 8: Of cards spending by A and Z on their card ecosystem,

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Speaker 8: and it's a veritable treasure trove of information. It reveals

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Speaker 8: our spending habits at are very granular level. And I

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Speaker 8: did actually, as an aside, I did run into Sharon's

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Speaker 8: old recently admitted to her that I'm a fan this

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Speaker 8: information now at a very high level, or an aggregated level,

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Speaker 8: nothing really to get too excited about. This is looking

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Speaker 8: one percent in October, which is not much a note

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Speaker 8: that actually Awan said report this on a seasonally adjusted

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Speaker 8: three month average basis, so that sort of smooths out

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Speaker 8: the volatility. But the annual spending in this data series

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Speaker 8: is three point two percent for the year, so barely keeping.

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Speaker 9: Up with inflation.

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Speaker 8: But it's when you look into the detail that you

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Speaker 8: get something a little more promising. And the key to

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Speaker 8: that is in what they call the durables category. Now,

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Speaker 8: this category is commonly recognized as being cyclical, so it

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Speaker 8: improves when the economy approves and deteriorates the economy deteriorates,

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Speaker 8: it's showing quite a solid annual gain, up six point

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Speaker 8: three percent. And some of the categories inside durables we've

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Speaker 8: noted before, so this is this is not household durables,

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Speaker 8: so it's not your Fricht and stuff. That category is

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Speaker 8: only up two point four percent. But inside this category

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Speaker 8: you got things like pet stores. You know, we mentioned

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Speaker 8: this last time you're blooming. People just cannot stop spending

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Speaker 8: on the spet on their pets up eighteen point seven percent. There,

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Speaker 8: and the interesting one second hand stores up ten point

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Speaker 8: three percent. Pharmacies that's up a bit as well, the

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Speaker 8: secondhand stores. One that's interesting is it just has it

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Speaker 8: got cool to be vintage again? Or is this just people.

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Speaker 2: Can't afford all love thrilling?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, god uncle, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, but this category, it's the I'm calling it the

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Speaker 8: biggest flicker in these smoldering pile of embers, that is spending.

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Speaker 8: Only two categories are showing annual negative growth. That's motor

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Speaker 8: vehicles and fuel, and that of course is driven by cheaper,

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Speaker 8: cheaper oil. But apparel, apparel really is the LaGG and

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Speaker 8: it's a very tough time like to be in that gig.

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Speaker 8: Closed stores down, closing shoes stores down two point eight

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Speaker 8: percent and even more, and that's an annual annual number.

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Speaker 8: But the kids closing stores down four point two percent.

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Speaker 8: So when apparel starts to move up, Mike, we know

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Speaker 8: we've turned the corner. An ZI do calculate a proxy

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Speaker 8: for what they call real card spending, so that's inflation adjusted.

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Speaker 9: That's been flat for almost eighteen months.

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Speaker 8: But look, look, I keep saying, don't pop the champagne

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Speaker 8: course just yet, keep the champagne and nice, But I reckon,

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Speaker 8: maybe just move the eski a little bit closer, just

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Speaker 8: a little bit closer. It's we're almost there. And bakeries, well,

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Speaker 8: what is it with bakeries. I mean, people are loving

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Speaker 8: the pies out there, and boots spending continues to fall.

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Speaker 9: That looks very much to me like that's a societal change.

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Speaker 9: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably I think that's probably true. Now the trichrometery,

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Speaker 2: you've got something good there as.

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Speaker 9: Well, sort of sort of.

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Speaker 8: So more from the A and Z this morning. So

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Speaker 8: the light traffic index there was up zero point two

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Speaker 8: percent in October, but year on year it's up three

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Speaker 8: point two percent, and that is improving quite rapidly. So

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Speaker 8: this is an indicator of the state of demands six

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Speaker 8: month lead on momentum in the economy.

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Speaker 9: The theory being sort.

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Speaker 8: Of captures the movement of trade ees and small courier vehicles,

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Speaker 8: family outings, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 9: So that trend has been lifting recently.

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Speaker 8: That's encouraging and not so much on the heavy traffic Index,

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Speaker 8: which is more volatile. It's only up zero point six

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Speaker 8: percent year on yet it's looking more at things like trucks, buses,

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Speaker 8: more of a steer on production GBP, more immediate, more

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Speaker 8: here and now, so captures, retail, wholesale, trade, production, freight.

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Speaker 8: That sort of thing has been flat recently. But we

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Speaker 8: know that the here and now is quite subdued. So

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Speaker 8: a little bit of good news there.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, Australia one to oh three point eight are

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Speaker 2: BARB one hundreds positive? They're positive?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a couple of snippets here from Australia. Big jump

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Speaker 8: in consumer confidence. So this is the West Back Molbourne

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Speaker 8: Institute Index of Consumer Sentiment. It's turned positive mote for

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Speaker 8: the first time in four years, so up twelve per

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Speaker 8: one hundred and three point eight over one hundred. Means

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Speaker 8: that optimistic consumers outweigh pessimistic consumers. I suspect this will

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Speaker 8: be a factor weighing against another RBA cut in December.

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Speaker 8: I was actually just looking at the futures markets and

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Speaker 8: at the moment, the Australian market very much split on

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Speaker 8: whether or not they get a further rate cut at

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Speaker 8: all at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, numbers please.

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Speaker 8: hundred and fifty one points forty seven, seven hundred and twenty,

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Speaker 2: It's going to be really interesting to see how the

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Speaker 2: So yes, the police commissioner with us after seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning. Overshadowed or overshadowing. That was, of course Nicole

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Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking Breakfast your reviews, talk sat being.

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Speaker 1: The news makers and the personalities, the big names talk

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Speaker 1: to Mike the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate,

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Speaker 2: I did some research yesterday. Who flipped yesterday from the Democrats?

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Speaker 2: One was an independent, but he caucuses generally with the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: This is read the shutdown. The reason they flipped is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: here at twenty three minutes away from seven. More trouble

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Speaker 2: around costs and fees and as a result inflation, port

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Speaker 2: well aware, freight companies currently charged one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: a container. This is at peak times. This is going

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Speaker 2: to rise to three hundred and fifty by twenty twenty seven. Now,

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Speaker 2: Don Kalisi is the Transporting New Zealand CEO and as

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Speaker 2: well as morning to you, Morning Mike. So this isn't new,

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Speaker 2: is it. I mean, we're aware of this, we know

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Speaker 13: Look, I think that was the intent of off container

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Speaker 13: the gains from these increases, right And frankly, we'd argue

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Speaker 13: it comes a point in time where you have to think, hey,

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Speaker 13: is this just a case of robbing Peter.

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Speaker 14: To pay Paul?

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Speaker 2: So this is a you think this is a gouge

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Speaker 2: from the port?

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Speaker 14: Pretty much?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what more importantly, what can you do about it?

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Speaker 2: Because the ports downtown they've got traffic problems, they're a

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Speaker 2: monopoly to an extent. Yeah, I either deal with them

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Speaker 13: That's the problem. I mean, but it becomes an issue

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Speaker 2: And this is the conundrum because of course we've had

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Speaker 2: look look what I can return to the council, and

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Speaker 2: the council owners and the council want returns. That's how

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Speaker 2: it works in it don Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 13: And so there's that sort of As I said at

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Speaker 14: Productivity at the port.

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Speaker 13: I think people understand that that's good investment. But that's

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Speaker 2: Can you change freight even if you wanted to, when

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 13: Look not not really, and that's been shinned worldwide.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, port.

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Speaker 13: Congestion is in issue globally right and also I mean

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Speaker 2: It is, yeah, it is. But the council want their

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Speaker 2: someone's got to pay for it. So what's your solution

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Speaker 2: other than appealing to their good nature which at a

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Speaker 13: Is a much better model than a supply chain where

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Speaker 2: So you want a minister involved, you're talking about central government.

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Speaker 16: I think I think it can be done without central

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll follow it with interesting. I appreciate your time

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Speaker 2: Jenny after eight o'clock morning, Mike, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: That organization is rotten at the top. Where did Bashim

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Speaker 2: that's part of the problem that Mark now faces this morning.

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Speaker 2: You're wrong, by the way, but that's a view and

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Speaker 2: you're entitled to it. And if that view is held

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Speaker 2: Mike I smell an employment pay art coming for Costa. Now,

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Speaker 2: that's an interesting question the legals around it. So he

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Speaker 2: was legitimately in their eyes appointed to his current job.

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Speaker 2: Does retrospectivity enter into it, and does retrospectivity of a

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Speaker 2: non criminal nature which I suspected is enter into it

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Speaker 2: as well? So follow that particular run strand of the

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Speaker 2: argument withinter six forty.

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Speaker 17: Five international correspondence with ends an eye insurance peace of

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Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand business with how are you yeah

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Speaker 17: doing well?

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Speaker 11: Mind?

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Speaker 2: Now a we're going to get across the hurdle. Here

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Speaker 2: is something going to open up or not?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 18: Well, yeah, maybe this misery appears to be on the

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Speaker 18: way to some conclusion, but it isn't coming easily and

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Speaker 18: it leaves a lot of people unhappy, some furious, even

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Speaker 18: as the Democrats who flipsay that they have at least

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Speaker 18: set the table for the debate on the midterm elections

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Speaker 18: coming up next year. So the Senate last night approved

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Speaker 18: the legislation to end the shutdown. It now moves on

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Speaker 18: to the House, which hasn't done any official business since

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Speaker 18: in September, which seems astonishing anyway, speak of. Johnson sent

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Speaker 18: his House members home at the time. In what was

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Speaker 18: seen as a bid to quiet and cause for release

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Speaker 18: of the Jeffrey Epstein file. Seven Democrats and one independent

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Speaker 18: joined all but one Republican senator to pass that government

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Speaker 18: reopening measure, which does not include the very thing Democrats

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Speaker 18: said was their main demand, the continuation of health insurance.

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Speaker 18: He's one of those damns who folded his Senator Jean Shaheen,

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Speaker 18: who said on this early on.

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Speaker 7: I had a meeting with some constituents last Friday when

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Speaker 7: I was in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: One was a.

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Speaker 16: Man who said, if I didn't have that insurance through

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Speaker 16: the Affordable Care Act, I would not have gone to

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Speaker 16: the doctor, I would not have gotten my cancer treated,

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Speaker 16: and I would be dead by now.

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Speaker 18: Well, now she is citing those same constituents for the backdown.

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Speaker 16: When I talked to my constituents in New Hampshire, you

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Speaker 16: know what they say to me. They say, why can't

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Speaker 16: you all just work together to address the problems that

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Speaker 16: are facing this country?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 18: That's the way Guzie Washington. Yeah, Trump crushed his opponents,

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Speaker 18: including Democratic Senate leader Schumer, says Trump, of that face off.

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Speaker 19: He thought he could break the Republicans, and the Republicans

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Speaker 19: broke him.

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Speaker 18: Benachle Politics. Some Dems are calling for Schumer to be

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Speaker 18: replaced Inator Bernie Sanders saying, of this.

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Speaker 10: Look, I think it was a terrible, terrible boot at

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Speaker 10: a time when we have a broken healthcare system.

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Speaker 18: Republicans say they might have a vote on healthcare subsidies,

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Speaker 18: perhaps in December. Even if there is a vote on this,

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Speaker 18: it is unlikely to win Republican backing. In Republicans for

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Speaker 18: years have come out with no plans zip for health

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Speaker 18: care improvements, so the expectation would be that millions of

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Speaker 18: people here who have subsidized healthcare at the minute will

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Speaker 18: lose that health coverage. All this comes to a crunch

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Speaker 18: again by the end of January, when there could be

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Speaker 18: another shutdown, and centrist Dems argue it would be even

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Speaker 18: clearer that their political opponents have nothing on their health issue. Meantime,

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Speaker 18: air travel hair continues to be completely chaotic. The number

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Speaker 18: of flight cancellations this week is growing more than today.

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Speaker 18: Trump has slammed those air traffic controllers who, with no

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Speaker 18: money coming in, took on other jobs or quit just

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Speaker 18: to allow their families to survive. That was unamerican, says Trump,

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Speaker 18: who doesn't have to worry about missing a monthly paycheck.

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Speaker 18: I guess Trump is proposing a bonus of ten thousand

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Speaker 18: bucks for controllers who stayed on the job. No details

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Speaker 18: on any of that, so they don't hold your breath. Folks,

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Speaker 18: ask John Fox where he Trump would find the money

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Speaker 18: for that, the funding the presidents.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 20: I'll get it from someplace.

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Speaker 18: So money for forny paybags or billions for Argentina.

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Speaker 2: No problem.

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Speaker 18: Money for healthcare or food for Americans struggling, not possible.

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Speaker 2: I suppose this was always coming. But this Camp Mystic

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Speaker 2: thing will end up in court.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's about time. I think the story has kind

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Speaker 18: of disappeared. Back in July the fourth, it was a

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Speaker 18: dark time when twenty seven people, mostly the young kids

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Speaker 18: of course, drowned in flash floods at that religious for

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Speaker 18: retreat site known as Camp Mystic. This camp was in

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Speaker 18: a known flash flood zone. Now, the families of some

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Speaker 18: of those victims of vide lawsuits where they claim in

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Speaker 18: gress negligence by the camp operators, and these lawsuits got

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Speaker 18: to say a brutal in their accusations. They accused the

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Speaker 18: camp management putting profit over safety, some of the parents

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Speaker 18: saying the tragedy was no mischances one.

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Speaker 10: This wasn't an accident, this was complacency and it is

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Speaker 10: one hundred percent preventable.

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Speaker 18: They say the owners chose to house young girls in

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Speaker 18: cabins in flood prone spots to avoid the cost of

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Speaker 18: relocating those cabins. They claim also that when the Weather

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Speaker 18: Service put out their middle of the night warning of

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Speaker 18: life threatening mass flooding, the owners spent about an hour

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Speaker 18: plus protecting equipment. I did nothing at that point to

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Speaker 18: try and save lives. They claim the owners wrongly directed

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Speaker 18: some to stay in the cabins while others were running

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Speaker 18: for their lives. The owners say they did not realize

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Speaker 18: at first the scale of this thing. But these are

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Speaker 18: pretty scathing accusations.

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Speaker 2: See Friday Richard Uncle's stateside Mirran. By the way, who's

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Speaker 2: Trump's appointment to the FED? He's talking up another half

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Speaker 2: point cut? The irony of that being and I don't

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Speaker 2: know that anyone's joined the dots. Is Trump's busy telling

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Speaker 2: you how good the economy is, and yet has man

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Speaker 2: on the Fed's telling you how poor it must be

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Speaker 2: to warrant her a fifty point cut. So the two

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Speaker 2: don't join up. But it might not matter because the

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Speaker 2: Mega millions is up to a billion on November eleven,

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Speaker 2: as in today, and that would make it the eighth

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Speaker 2: biggest of all time. Five balls and the Golden One,

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Speaker 2: and it's all yours ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender and news togs enbs.

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Speaker 2: Mine could have shut down? Ever happened in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Very good question. No who's the answer. We have a

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Speaker 2: different system. We don't have an upper House, and the

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Speaker 2: Government of the day have the numbers and they keep

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Speaker 2: the money and the budgets flowing. We'd have an election

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Speaker 2: before a shutdown. Mike, I hope you're going to ask

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Speaker 2: Ginny about her knowledge of Costa skullduggery when she was

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Speaker 2: at the Policeman And well, of course I will, but

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Speaker 2: there isn't any The word skullduggery is interesting and I'll

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Speaker 2: come back to that in just a couple of moments.

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Speaker 2: But this don't try and drag this into a political thing,

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Speaker 2: because it isn't Ginny's clean labors clean. They made a

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Speaker 2: bad appointment in Costa. He was hopeless, But that's not

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about this morning, Mike. Have Costa was

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Speaker 2: cleaned beforehand? Why did he compromise his integrity? Why does

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Speaker 2: anybody compromise in integrity? Did mix Skimming have dirt on him?

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Speaker 2: Did mix Skimming have dirt on others? Where did mix

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Speaker 2: Skimming get all his houses from? See? This is what

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Speaker 2: I worry about now. MX Skimming's got a couple of houses.

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Speaker 2: To be blunt and without sounding like a snob, they're

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Speaker 2: regular every day average houses, they'll be worth three or

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Speaker 2: four million dollars if you've worked most of your life

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Speaker 2: in a reasonably high paying job, plus you've got a

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Speaker 2: pension scheme. There are plenty of New Zealanders with houses

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Speaker 2: like that. He's not a overtly wealthy man, so don't

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Speaker 2: try and raw too many things in there as to

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Speaker 2: his integrity, you know, ask yourself, why does anybody behave

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Speaker 2: the way they do?

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Speaker 9: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I hope these police who have been involved we'll see

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Speaker 2: the full force of the law. That's an interesting question.

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Speaker 2: Is negligence illegal? Is skullduggery a crime? Did they look

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Speaker 2: away because mcskimming was their mate or did they know

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Speaker 2: mc Skimming was a crook and look away? Therefore, they're

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Speaker 2: different equations, aren't they. So we'll ask that after seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock as well, five to seven the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business paper. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Good news on housing, so we're setting records for first

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Speaker 2: home buyers. So I'm glad we've sorted this out. I

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Speaker 2: think we've sorted this out once and for all, that

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Speaker 2: old angsty thing whereby no one can afford a house.

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Speaker 2: It simply isn't true. So these are stats from catality.

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Speaker 2: In Westpac First home Buyer Report September quarter, twenty seven

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Speaker 2: point seven percent of all homes sold were the first

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Speaker 2: home buyers record and it breaks the previous good which

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Speaker 2: was twenty six point nine and that will set back

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Speaker 2: in December of last year or December quarter of last year.

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Speaker 2: Who's doing well Wellington first home buyers thirty six percent

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Speaker 2: of the market wrote a U of thirty two South

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Speaker 2: Wai Kato and Timuary twenty eight lending to first home

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Speaker 2: buyers highest level of more than three years. So the

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Speaker 2: money's there, the interest rates are down. Report does say

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Speaker 2: that there are still some barriers. Well, of course there

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Speaker 2: are barriers. They are always going to be barriers, and

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Speaker 2: it's the average age of first home buyers is now

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Speaker 2: thirty six years old. But we've got to break the

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Speaker 2: psychology or the mindset. Now kids suffered as well when

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Speaker 2: you're twenty four to twenty five, twenty six. Great story

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Speaker 2: in the Herald this morning, the woman involved as twenty

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Speaker 2: eight first home buyer. We've got to break this mindset

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Speaker 2: that kids have these days. I'm never going to own

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Speaker 2: a house. It simply isn't true. Pre COVID average was

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Speaker 2: thirty four, so it's gone from thirty four to thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Average costs for a home bought by the first time

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Speaker 2: a seven hundred thousand majority is standalone homes. Now that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a link to borrowing money from the banks,

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Speaker 2: of course, but standalone homes are more expensive than an

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Speaker 2: apartment or a townhouse, lower than the median price across

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Speaker 2: all the catg wheas a seven hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So that's encouraging, isn't it right. Richard Chambers, police commissioner,

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Speaker 2: he's had he's got a mess on his hands and

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Speaker 2: he's going to have to clean it up. The reputational

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Speaker 2: damage is going to be interesting. Are some of the

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Speaker 2: texts to indicate this morning that there's an element of

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Speaker 2: suspicion in the community about the police. Mark Mitchell, of course,

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Speaker 2: later on Jenny Anderson as well. We've got it all

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Speaker 2: covered this morning here on the My Asking Breakfast at

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Speaker 2: news talk.

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Speaker 1: Zby Credible Compelling the breakfast show, You confess it's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 1: News togsdad.

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Speaker 2: B seven past seven, so so had to an ugly read.

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Speaker 2: The IPCA reported the mixed skimming behavior as well as

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Speaker 2: the actions of some senior police of course serious failings

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Speaker 2: and by and including former Commissioner Andrew Coster. Richard Chambers

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Speaker 2: is the Police Commissioner and is with us. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. So just for clarity's sake, you've been in

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Speaker 2: the job one year. You're clean.

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Speaker 19: You knew nothing, absolutely nothing. Mike Coor was briefed on

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Speaker 19: two days before I started as the Commissioner of New

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Speaker 19: Zealm Police at the end of November last year.

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Speaker 2: And what were you briefed on and what did you

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Speaker 2: do and when did you do it?

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Speaker 19: I was briefed on the fact that there was an

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Speaker 19: investigation under way and that there had been a complaint

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Speaker 19: by a victim more than months earlier in the year

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Speaker 19: that that had not been handled properly and reflected poorly

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Speaker 19: on now former members of the New Zealand Police Executive.

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Speaker 19: So the first priority was to put the right systems

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Speaker 19: and processes in place so that her complaint was taken

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Speaker 19: seriously and the right people were investigating, with the right

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Speaker 19: structure in place. That was critically important, and of course

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Speaker 19: running alongside that was a complaint to the IPCA, and

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Speaker 19: that of course came out yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So you spent the first year of your job cleaning

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Speaker 2: the place up.

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Speaker 19: Yes, I have done a bit that nke.

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Speaker 9: That way certainly?

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Speaker 2: Can you or could you believe what you were walking into?

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Speaker 19: Look, I knew that I needed to reset the priorities

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Speaker 19: for using on police. I needed to ensure that the

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Speaker 19: focus was on the front line. I knew all of that,

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Speaker 19: and I've done that. But yes, quite frankly, Look, I've

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Speaker 19: spent a good champ of the last twelve months mopping

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Speaker 19: up some mess that occurred before my time, and I

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Speaker 19: take that in my stride. It's part of my job, right.

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Speaker 19: But you know, Look, there's fifteen thousand men, a woman

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Speaker 19: of New Seum Police did a great job that night

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Speaker 19: for our country. My focus is on them, not self interest,

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Speaker 19: and that's what you saw in this case.

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Speaker 2: I'm told it's limited to five or six people. Is

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Speaker 2: that correct?

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Speaker 11: Correct?

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Speaker 19: Yes, that is correct?

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Speaker 2: Have they all been dealt to or with?

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Speaker 19: Fortunately most of those are former members of the Newseum

681
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Speaker 19: Police executive have departed the organization. I'm very pleased about that.

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Speaker 19: There are in the recommendations a request that I sort

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Speaker 19: of the recommendation that I instigate employment investigations. There are

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Speaker 19: three underway in relation to other members.

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Speaker 2: Is cost is one? Is cost of one of those?

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Speaker 2: Or is he now separate giving the works elsewhere?

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Speaker 19: Yees, he's separate now in his new role. That's a

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Speaker 19: matter between him and his employee of the Public Service Commission.

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Speaker 2: The woman and her complaint are still in court, aren't they.

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Speaker 19: So the mesters that resulted in her being charged in

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Speaker 19: middle of last year, that is now that is no longer.

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Speaker 9: In the court.

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Speaker 2: So that has been taken out of the court and

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Speaker 2: resulved in some way, shape or form. Is there a

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Speaker 2: check being written? How does that being or how is

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Speaker 2: that being handled?

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Speaker 19: I reached out her legal representative late yesterday to express

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Speaker 19: an apology on behalf of the New Zealand Police for

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Speaker 19: what had occurred. And I did say to him that

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Speaker 19: I had no doubt the further conversations at an appropriate

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Speaker 19: time in the future.

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Speaker 2: And did he say something like you bet their will.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, he really appreciated my phone call. I mean,

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Speaker 19: that's the way I operate, and it's important that I

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Speaker 19: do reach out and express an apology, and we didn't

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Speaker 19: get into any detail, but I have no doubt that

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Speaker 19: we would be meeting in due course. So I would

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Speaker 19: like to express my apologies again, but in person, just.

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Speaker 2: As it just we're inundated with texts and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of people asking a lot of questions. As best

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Speaker 2: you're able to explain, the government is clear of the

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Speaker 2: government and the previous government are clear at this So

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Speaker 2: in other words, Stuart Nash, Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell didn't

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Speaker 2: appoint a bunch of crooks that they somehow knew were dodgy.

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Speaker 19: Oh look, that's not a matter for me, Mike to

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Speaker 19: really comment on. I mean, you know, the thing is here, Yes,

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Speaker 19: the focus is on a former Deputy commissioner who who

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Speaker 19: has behaved incredibly badly. The bit I really struggle with,

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Speaker 19: where is the personal responsibility for fronting up and saying, look,

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Speaker 19: there's some things here that I think you need to

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Speaker 19: know about that. I'm not proud of that. He never

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Speaker 19: did that as far as I'm aware different. So you know,

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Speaker 19: we can look at the systems and processes about a

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Speaker 19: pointing people, but where's the personal responsibility, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 19: it's an absolute privilege to serve New Zealand police, but

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Speaker 19: particularly at the most senior level. So it's an absolute

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Speaker 19: disgrace that at no point there was honesty and integrity

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Speaker 19: that one individual in particular who did not say this is.

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Speaker 9: A problem here.

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Speaker 2: Well, who's the bigger thug here? Is it cost or

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Speaker 2: mix skimming? I mean, yes, MC skimming has been dealt

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Speaker 2: to and I can I see what you're saying, But

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Speaker 2: I mean cost is cost an about it? What's that

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Speaker 2: say about it?

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Speaker 19: Yes, yep, Well, you know people will take from that

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Speaker 19: what they will. I've certainly got a personal view. It's

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Speaker 19: an absolute disgrace. It's lacking a leadership, it's lacking integrity,

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Speaker 19: you know. So he's going to need to answer to that.

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Speaker 2: Those five or six that we talked about. Is there

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Speaker 2: an argument? I hope My questions clear. Did they look

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Speaker 2: at MC skimming and in the heart of hearts believe them,

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Speaker 2: or did they look at mixed skimming and go possible?

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Speaker 2: But we going to cover them anyway.

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Speaker 19: Oh, look, I think there was a narrative that they

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Speaker 19: brought into that he you know that there had been

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Speaker 19: some issues as a consequence of an affair that had

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Speaker 19: occurred a number of years prior even that I knew

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Speaker 19: nothing about. So I think they believed his narrative and

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Speaker 19: that clouded their judgment, their decision making. And they know

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Speaker 19: that he was being put forward as an ex commisioner

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Speaker 19: of police. I mean, goodness, gracious, I mean, can you

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Speaker 19: just imagine what would have happened if that had occurred?

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Speaker 19: So I think they brought into a narrative that clouded

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Speaker 19: the you know, their own personal self self interest. And

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Speaker 19: we have a poor victim who was reaching out wanting

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Speaker 19: to tell a story and she was not taken seriously.

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Speaker 19: And now that that is not the responsibility of my

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Speaker 19: very very good investigators across the country who work with

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Speaker 19: these types of situations. It's the responsibility that the former

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Speaker 19: executive needs to own.

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Speaker 9: And it's a pauling.

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Speaker 2: Are you confident that that blindness that they portrayed is

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Speaker 2: limited just to MC skimming and no other complaints, people's situations, cases, investigations,

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Speaker 2: or anything. Well, I certainly hope so, Mike, because not

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Speaker 2: quite enough. Are you clear? Are we clear that this

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Speaker 2: is it? Or is there potentially more if we dug.

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Speaker 19: Well, look, my job right now is to ensure that

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Speaker 19: I take on board or the recommendations and work swiftly

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Speaker 19: to put everything in place to ensure this that this

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Speaker 19: never happens again. And you know, in terms of other

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Speaker 19: stuff out there, well, I only know what I know.

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Speaker 19: I'm not aware of anything else, and I've got I

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Speaker 19: hope that there's not the case, because you know, the

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Speaker 19: people of New Zealand when they reach out to New

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Speaker 19: Zealand Police, deserve the best possible service they can get

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Speaker 19: and they need to be taken seriously. And I've been

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Speaker 19: very clear about that since I took over as the commissioner.

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Speaker 19: Our priority is supporting the front line staff of my

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Speaker 19: organization who do this with day and day, day and night,

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Speaker 19: and I'm.

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Speaker 11: Really proud of it.

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Speaker 19: And you know my focus now. I'm going to be

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Speaker 19: putting a new leadership team in place and they all

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Speaker 19: be working with me to help steer and use it

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Speaker 19: on police in the right direction and ensure that these

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Speaker 19: accorring situations never happen again.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always, Richard Chambers, Police Commissioner, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson still to come. Fifteen Past the.

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Speaker 2: News talksb we'll get to the guns in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: On the broader law subject, we've got this roadside drug

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Speaker 2: testing announced as well, so cannabis, meth, MDMA and cocaine

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Speaker 2: tested as of well Wellington next month, nationwide April next year.

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Speaker 2: Glenn Dobson's the boss at the Drug Detection Agency and

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Speaker 2: as well as Glenn morning. Yeah, Mike, are we going

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Speaker 2: to get a Pandora's box of drug added losers behind

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Speaker 2: the wheel of cars once we start testing for it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, it's a possibility at the moment. I guess

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Speaker 6: we're on the roads and we don't accurately know who's

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Speaker 6: out there and what the drivers are affected by the governments,

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Speaker 6: but out stats that thirty percent of fatal exidents now

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Speaker 6: have drug effected drivers and that's really scary. So I

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Speaker 6: applaud the government for taking this positive move.

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Speaker 2: And is this tech in the device and or is

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Speaker 2: that kosher? And you know, we're not going to end

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Speaker 2: up with a whole lot of argument about what we're

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Speaker 2: doing and what we're not doing. This is just like

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Speaker 2: alcohol and no real difference, kind of yes and kind

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Speaker 2: of no.

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Speaker 6: To a certain extent. Lock any new legislation is always

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Speaker 6: going to get challenge and I can see the legal

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Speaker 6: fraternity definitely sitting up a little side business challenging this

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Speaker 6: legislation for the first couple of years and finds its own.

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Speaker 6: But in relation to roadside drug testing, it is accurate

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Speaker 6: the devices we've verified. We are following a similar regime

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Speaker 6: that Australia's had and part of the process is samples

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Speaker 6: go to the lab for confirmatory testing if there is

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Speaker 6: going to be a prosecution and lab is the gold standard.

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Speaker 2: In relation to that, is it a game changer? In

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Speaker 2: other words, will we tidy up the roads? Do you

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Speaker 2: think it's the deterrent we've been waiting for.

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Speaker 6: Look, it's not the silver bullet. It's not going to

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Speaker 6: be a the game changer. But it is a massive

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Speaker 6: move in the right direction. You know, enforcement along with education,

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Speaker 6: along with the police having the ability to actually take

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Speaker 6: roadside and pyment tests they do at the moment is

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Speaker 6: a really positive move. And like I say, similar to

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Speaker 6: the legislator, sorry, the areas in Australia that are doing

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Speaker 6: it successfully at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Good Glenn Good, and so I appreciate it. Glenn Dobson

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Speaker 2: Drug Detection Agency, Yes gunn shortly got some very good

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Speaker 2: aren't they? Or masm? The old MSM gets people a

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Speaker 2: bit angsty. Out of christ Church came the idea that

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Speaker 2: gun law needed amending. The amending got another look when

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Speaker 2: Act came to power, because they are libertarians and people

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Speaker 2: who broadly speaking of a common sense view of the world,

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Speaker 2: less likely you are to have a massacre is of

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Speaker 2: course nonsense, And like so many things that you had earned.

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Speaker 2: Hepkin Zerra was responsible for real world policy for real

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Speaker 2: world behavior. Wasn't really one of them nuss's get guns.

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Speaker 2: The fact Tarrant got his legally didn't change the equation.

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Speaker 2: And that's before you get to the bit. This is

872
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: not a country of hot head crazies. With the longlist

873
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: of violent massacres. It is true we have a lot

874
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: of guns per head of population, but that reflects our

875
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: outdoors and rural lifestyles as opposed to an American type

876
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: view of defending yourself. Anyway, Nicole McKee, straight from the

877
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: gun side of the equation, was going to have a

878
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: look and from that came the expectation that some sort

879
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: of major liberalization was coming, but it was not to be.

880
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Yesterday was more, as it turned out, a bit of

881
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: a dabble than a revolution. And the fact McKee and

882
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: Act have invoked agree to disagree as either assign a

883
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: political maturity or seething anger or possibly both. If you

884
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: listen to Mark Mitchell around the police's role and the

885
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: Firearm Safety Authority National will never budget. There is some

886
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: stuff there about three D printing which makes sense, but

887
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: overall it puts this whole exercise into the category of

888
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: a review, not an overhaul. I never thought personally listening

889
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: of access to the so called MSSA weapons was a

890
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: major but I get a lot of people would have

891
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: in a way. It's a good example of the disconnect

892
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: I think really between the country and the city. The

893
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: city would be aghast those sort of guns because the

894
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: city doesn't use guns, or get it, most gun owned

895
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: as a regular people burdened by a regular thinking of

896
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: the adourns who couldn't or wouldn't know one end of

897
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: a gun from another. McKey was from the other side

898
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: of the argument, but ultimately lost. That's politics, so carry on.

899
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Then the angst was wasted. Nothing to see here, Hosking, Mike.

900
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: Do you know what I like about Chambers? He does

901
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: not use that corporate speak. He just uses everyday normal language,

902
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: so refreshing. I agree. I get a lot of time

903
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: for Chambers. He seems like a good bloke. Morning Mike.

904
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: There's another prime example of what this government is still

905
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: cleaning up after two years coming into power. Cost was

906
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: put into that role by labor and poor leadership, picks

907
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: poor leadership. It's yeah, I'm struggling not to get involved

908
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: in that because you know my views on Costa and

909
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: it was a captain's call from a Durna Nash And

910
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: if you think back to the time, there were other

911
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: contenders that you thought, oh, yeah, I can see who

912
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: they're going to go with, until they didn't, and you thought,

913
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: where the hell did he come from? And so you've

914
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: got to be careful though, because just because a guy's

915
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: not particularly good at their job doesn't mean he turns

916
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: out to be the Coster that we seemingly know. Now,

917
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: they're in a way two different subjects. Mike, did all

918
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: these five or six executive get to resign or retire

919
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: with the benefits in the big paycheck that comes with

920
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: it and on long service leave until retirement? Very fair question.

921
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: Mitchell will have the answer to that, but it does

922
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: go to the line criminality is different from turning a

923
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: blind eye? Or is that perverting the course of justice?

924
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: And if it is perverting the course of justice, where

925
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: are the charges our charge is still to come and

926
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: where we waiting for yesterday's report? Or is just a

927
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: lot of incompetence and the old boys club at play

928
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: and those guys get to wander off into the sunset.

929
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Speaker 2: The other interesting question we've already raised this morning Coster job,

930
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: as far as I know, has done nothing wrong. So therefore,

931
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Speaker 2: in his new job, when you exit him, as he

932
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Speaker 2: undoubtedly will be, does a check go with it because he,

933
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: you know, look at it on a piece of papers,

934
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 2: started and has done nothing wrong to this point. He's

935
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Speaker 2: on a five year appointment so some more questions still

936
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: to come. Mark and Ginny after raight meantime, The news

937
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: is next.

938
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Speaker 1: Here with News Talks dB, no fluff, just facts and

939
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: fierce debate, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Embrace

940
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Speaker 1: the Impossible News togs dB After.

941
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Speaker 2: Eight Politics Wednesday, twenty three minutes away from eight related

942
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: matters Again, reforms were released, but as of late afternoon

943
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: buried because under mxcuming scandal the firearms registerabile stay semi

944
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: automatic access won't be wider than the Firearms Safe Authority

945
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: will remain under police gang members are out for registering

946
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 2: for a license, and we've got some new rules around

947
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: three D printing guns and stuff like that. Hughgebro Mac

948
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: is the council or with the Council of Licensed Firearm

949
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: and is with us. Hugh Morning, Good morning. Make out

950
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: of ten ten that couldn't have done the better one,

951
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: it was a bust. What's your number?

952
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 9: Look?

953
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Speaker 14: I think it's probably strong seven. So the things that

954
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 14: have mentioned are actually pretty good. But what's absent? What

955
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 14: is going to annoy a lot of license farms owners

956
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 14: who are expecting for more.

957
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so the heavyweight stuff, the big guns all that

958
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Is that going to upset people, do

959
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: you think or not?

960
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 14: I think what'll upset them is the fact that they've

961
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 14: been promised this sort of overwhelming reform of gun laws,

962
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 14: and what we've actually got is just kind of a

963
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 14: retweak of what is already existing. So that'll be a

964
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 14: bit of a disappointment, and that'll hopefully or more likely

965
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 14: come down on national for choosing politics over evidence face

966
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 14: warmaking that words.

967
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: So that's interesting because the next question is if they

968
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: hadn't see is this and that they'd sort of I mean,

969
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: the inference was there that big change was coming and

970
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: it hasn't turned up. Is that on them politically or not?

971
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 14: Whether it's on act politically, I'm not sure how people

972
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 14: are going to respond to this one. To be fair,

973
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 14: there will be people who are coming from Nicole amount,

974
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 14: so that that then would be of anyone in there

975
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 14: fighting for licensed firearms owners. Who else are you going

976
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 14: to give a vote to?

977
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Really, there's no one, no, okay. So if you go

978
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: back to the original problem as they perceived it, which

979
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: was the doing Amendment out of Christ judge, has anything

980
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: materially changed that vastly improves or doesn't improve the scenario

981
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: as we once had it before. Christ Judge, I.

982
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 14: Think one of the major things that has it's not

983
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 14: necessarily changed, but it's new, and that's getting the police

984
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 14: regulator away from them. And this is because the trust

985
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 14: and confidence license firearms owners have had in police have

986
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 14: plummeted since twenty nineteen. And that's because after they failed

987
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 14: to do their due process and they gave a terrorist

988
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 14: to firearms license, they got up and said they did

989
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 14: nothing wrong. The system needed to change and license firearms

990
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 14: owners to to blame. You can't recover from that sort

991
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 14: of reputational damage with the community that you're then supposed

992
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 14: to regulate and take care of. We have seen multiple

993
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 14: instances of individuals being bullied by police, by police overreach

994
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 14: due to clauses that say any factor and officer deems

995
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 14: appropriate is enough to strip someone of their license, even

996
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 14: though no crimes are being committed. It might be a

997
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 14: medical reason. So over the years, our faith in police

998
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 14: has completely broken down. So removing them, I think is

999
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 14: the biggest win for firearms owners and putting up this

1000
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 14: new regulator and a review committee, hopefully which involves members

1001
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 14: of the licensed community. I think that's a great step

1002
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 14: for everyone.

1003
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: Well suit as a person who doesn't own a gun,

1004
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: have never shot a gun, and not remotely interested in guns,

1005
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: Am I safer?

1006
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 14: I don't think you are any more safe from this.

1007
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 14: And we know this because even the twenty nineteen law changes,

1008
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 14: which made probably the most restrictive laws that New Zealand's

1009
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 14: ever seen, did not affect gun crime. What we have

1010
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 14: to remember is these laws will affect by far the

1011
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 14: licensed and law abiding individuals. They will make no difference

1012
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 14: really to those who use firearm to commit harm at

1013
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 14: our communities because they always emploid the law. It's the

1014
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 14: part of being a criminal.

1015
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: You appreciate it. You Deboro Back from the Council of

1016
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: License fire Armona's nineteen minutes away from Sex, the commissioner

1017
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: said most of the five or six have gone, not all.

1018
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: How many of the five or six there wellly are

1019
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: to these said two or three are still working through

1020
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: unemployment process. Part of that is Costa. Costa is no

1021
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: longer under his broad umbrella. But we'll cover all of

1022
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: that off with Mark and Jenny after eight o'clock. By

1023
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: the way, Derry is a problem. Production's running hot globally.

1024
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: Fonterra's record price of ten sixteen. That was last season.

1025
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: They're still sitting on ten this morning. Last time we

1026
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: talked to Myles Hurrle, which was a couple of weeks ago,

1027
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: and that was over the commercial brand sale. He said

1028
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: voluntarily that they were still comfortable with the ten. I

1029
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: think it's under severe pressure now. I think I can't

1030
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: remember whether it can't be. There must be next week

1031
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: another dairy auction. But they've been poor of late and

1032
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: the ten's under some stress. But production for September was

1033
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: up two and a half percent year on year season

1034
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: to date, and the season starts at the beginning of June,

1035
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: productions up two point eight percent. Globally, just about everywhere

1036
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: is growing milk production, so you've got a classic milk

1037
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: market at the moment. While we've been sitting here in

1038
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: Clover in New Zealand, going who look at the price

1039
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: as the rest of the world's gone and we'll hold on.

1040
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: We can probably produce a little bit more if we tried.

1041
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: And what has happened this is interesting is the general

1042
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: idea globally was we wouldn't be able to produce more

1043
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: milk because of the climate, because of the crackdown on

1044
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: farming and dairy and stuff like that. But things like science, technology, breeding, feeding,

1045
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: all of those sort of things have improved and they

1046
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: are able to make more milk, all of which is

1047
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: good for the world, but not particularly good for New

1048
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: Zealand Inc. We are starting this is the experts, not me.

1049
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: We're starting to see a milk glut. So the futures

1050
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: pricing is currently sitting at nine to seventy seven, which

1051
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: ain't ten. And then you get the dairy auction coming,

1052
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: which hasn't been good over the last four or five times.

1053
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: So just brace yourself for the golden days to at

1054
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 2: least to some extent anyway, come to an end. Eighteen

1055
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Speaker 2: to two.

1056
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1057
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1058
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Speaker 2: It'd be certain forty five Mike, I had drilled into

1059
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: me that you cannot contract out of negligence of cost.

1060
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 2: Is found to have acted negligently in carrying out his duty,

1061
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: then the consequences need to reflect the severity of his

1062
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: an action. Well, I mean what consequences. I mean he's

1063
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: going to lose his job, presumably this new social agency

1064
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. Morty Mike's of the

1065
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 2: public are absolutely justifiably furious with a mixed skimming debarcle

1066
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: and the miscreant lose a leadership who protected him. Can

1067
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: you imagine how current serving policemen and women feel. It's

1068
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: beyond sickening. It's a funny thing you carried. It's a

1069
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: fair point. And I'm not a police person obviously, but

1070
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: I've worked in organizations where leadership has failed abysmally and

1071
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: I've never taken that on board personally because it isn't

1072
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: about me, and I've always gone about my job. And

1073
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: I would imagine a police force which is fifteenth strong,

1074
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: you have little if any control. I mean, obviously I

1075
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: would have thought of you've got a good police minister

1076
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: and you've got a good police commissioner, and if you

1077
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: look at the top ranks and you're going, yep, they're

1078
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: good people. If feel better about yourself in general, it

1079
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: goes without saying. I would have thought. And equally, if

1080
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: you got idiots running the place, you've got to be

1081
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: a bit depressed. But it's not on you, and it's

1082
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: not about you, and it shouldn't necessarily adjust your attitude

1083
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: and the way you do your job, or that would

1084
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Speaker 2: be my take, having worked for places run by complete clowns,

1085
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: I always enjoyed doing my job, even though the idiots

1086
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: at the top didn't have the slightest idea. In the book.

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00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: By the way, I will name names.

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00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's almost like they're doing it deliberately, isn't.

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00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: It Almost You look at them and you go, are

1090
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: you accidentally that useless? Or are you just setting out

1091
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: to be that incompetent rocket Lab By the way, yesterday

1092
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: they delayed that first flight on the neutron. The neutron

1093
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: is the one that's going to potentially take people, which

1094
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: will be next level for Rocket Lab. I'm interested. Also,

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00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: they're still losing money, which is one of those fascinating

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00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: things of modern business. You can be worth an absolute fortune,

1097
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: and Beck justifiably so. I supposed as a billionaire, and

1098
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: a lot of the people he started the company with

1099
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 2: a multi multi multimillionaires, if not billionaires, because the market

1100
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: cap is huge. But they're still losing money and they

1101
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: won't make money until the neutron gets The neutron was

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00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: due to go this year, it's now next year. So

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00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: this all came out of their third quarter endings. Their

1104
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: market cap is sitting at about twenty five billion dollars.

1105
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: It won't break into black until the Neutron is launched.

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00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 2: And speaking of money, I read a very good piece

1107
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: that I would thoroughly recommend to you yesterday out of

1108
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: the New Year Sydney Morning Herald, under the headline of

1109
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: Escape from New York. It's the story about Mendani. Mendani

1110
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: hasn't even started yet, of course, but a couple of

1111
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: things he's looking to do. The corporate tax is going

1112
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: to go, he claims, from seven point five to eleven

1113
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: point five percent. Do remember that corporate tax and state tax,

1114
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: it's all completely different. In America. Federal as well is

1115
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: going to add two percent of income tax to those

1116
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: earning more than a million bucks. So he claims that's

1117
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: going to bring in four to five billion dollars each year.

1118
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: So all of that's very fine. But the bloke in

1119
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: the article is a guy called Blincarto who runs an

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00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 2: asset management company. He said, people are bailing left, right

1121
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: and center, and the place they're going is Texas, namely Dallas.

1122
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: They now call Dallas Yowl Street. We're going to Yowl

1123
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: Street because they've got lower taxes, lower regulation, and they're

1124
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: booming hard to remain And this is the line, it's

1125
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: hard to remain a financial capital when you despise capitalism.

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00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: Cities run by people who've never run a business or

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: met a payroll are killing their own proverbial golden goose.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could said that about the last labor government.

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00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: Of course, not a single one of them had ever

1130
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: owned a business in their life. A couple of them

1131
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 2: had run a business. David Parker was once all seen

1132
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: as quite a good businessman, but apart from that, they

1133
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: didn't have a clue. The state share of America's wealthier

1134
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 2: citizens in New York has gone from twelve point seven

1135
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: percent to eight point seven percent. So they bailed already.

1136
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: This is since twenty twenty two. And they are losing

1137
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: because of that, on average thirteen billion dollars in tax

1138
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: each year. So they're just so just do the numbers.

1139
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: They're losing thirteen billion. But Mindami's claim he's going to

1140
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: raise four or five, So he raises four or five

1141
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: to lose thirteen cool politics Texas their share of millionaires

1142
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: has gone from eight point five to nine point two percent.

1143
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: The financial services jobs in the last five years, the

1144
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: number of jobs they've created in New York and financial

1145
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: services is nineteen thousand? Is that a good number? Not really,

1146
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: because in Texas they've created over one hundred thousand. So

1147
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: you basically go and this is the this is the

1148
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: great lesson in life. The people with the money, the

1149
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: people with the success, the people who invest, the people

1150
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: who grow, the people who employ, go where the good

1151
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: politics is ten away from.

1152
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: It, the Make Asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

1153
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: dB seven Away from the tourism story continues to unfold

1154
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: in the positive way. This time next week, Next Wednesday,

1155
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: hotel occupancy in Auckland's going to be one hundred percent.

1156
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: When was the last time they did that? Years years ago?

1157
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: It equates the fifty seven thousand visited night's any Dundas

1158
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: is with Auckland unlimited morning.

1159
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 15: Good morning, mate.

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00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: When we say one hundred percent, is it literally one

1161
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: hundred percent or just a rounded sort of.

1162
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 15: Number, Well, it's pretty close. We don't often get this close,

1163
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 15: so we're pretty excited.

1164
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: So is it a conference in a concert and that's

1165
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: the sort of thing that tips it over or are

1166
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: we seeing a broader trend?

1167
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 15: You know, these two events have spiked it but we

1168
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 15: are seeing more conferences obviously hit the city as well,

1169
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 15: so there's a ton of events on at this You know,

1170
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 15: we start November starts our kind of busy season, but

1171
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 15: those two events timed at the same time have just

1172
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 15: hit us over that sort of percent mark.

1173
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: So over the season, then how close to one hundred

1174
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: will will we get On an ongoing basis.

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00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 15: Well, we'll probably average over the summer between eighty and

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Speaker 15: eighty five percent occupancy, and these nice big events spikes

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Speaker 15: just lift us up for certain parts of the parts

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Speaker 15: of the year. The last time we probably had a

1179
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 15: spike like this earlier in the year SLGP look zmes

1180
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 15: prior to that Coldplay Pearl Jam. They kind of just

1181
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 15: give those lovely little spikes and really support the accommodation

1182
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 15: in hospital sector.

1183
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: So what the government's saying, there's two key things there.

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00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: One are the new rules around Eden Park that will

1185
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: make a material difference, presumably in the opening of the

1186
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: convention center. So that's good for your side of the equation,

1187
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: I'm assuming.

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00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 15: Very very good. It means that we have a better

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00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 15: well balanced year round program of events and therefore hospitality

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 15: and accommodation has a more consistent run. It's kind of

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 15: filling restaurants and filling hotels.

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00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: Can the city cope?

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00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 14: Yes?

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00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 15: Absolutely? And actually what it does it brings such incredible vibrancy.

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 15: You know, a busy city is a safe city. The

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00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 15: more people we have in the city, it feels safe,

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00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 15: it feels better, feels more lively.

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Speaker 16: So this is a this is a great step forward.

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Speaker 2: Which is the juxtaposition, I guess between what you're trying

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00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: to sell and what we hear on the news on

1201
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: a daily basis. Auckland's a dump, downtown's dead. Is that

1202
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: a problem or does this fix that or help fix it?

1203
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 15: This helps, So vibrancy is great. And you know we've

1204
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 15: got cruise ships starting to pile in, so that's you know,

1205
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 15: two three thousand passengers coming off ships to support the

1206
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 15: city center. So all of that helps to try and

1207
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 15: keep the city lively. We want the city looking great.

1208
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 15: We've there a whole lot of work going on around

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 15: the nighttime economy, getting you know, Aucklands and visitors into

1210
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 15: the city after five, and that's also helping to drive

1211
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 15: vibrancy and filling their news at hospital across the city

1212
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 15: as well.

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Annie Andy Dundas, Who's Worth Auckland Unlimited. Hopefully

1214
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: it flows around the rest of the country as well.

1215
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: Four minutes away from eight related matters, Continace Traveler this

1216
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: morning have got the best go to places for twenty

1217
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: twenty six. Honestly, these people I'm thinking these days. I

1218
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: thought Continasa was the real deal, but I no longer

1219
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: think so. There's any number of people out there just

1220
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: randomly throwing darts boards going I reckon should go there,

1221
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: and I don't think there's anything behind a Queenstown is

1222
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: one of the best in Oceani and now technically that's true.

1223
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: I mean you can't beat Central Otago. Queenstown's duel in

1224
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: our crown. Tourism wise, it stacks up with anywhere in

1225
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: the world. So Continace telling you to go to Queenstown,

1226
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: I suppose there's a thing. But then they come in

1227
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: with the the eight entries for Australia in the top ten,

1228
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: including Adelaide, Darwin and Perth. Now I've been to two

1229
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 2: of those three. The one I hadn't been to is Darwin,

1230
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: and there's very good reason for that. There's no reason

1231
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: to go to Darwin. It's pointless if.

1232
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 6: You're running away from something.

1233
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 10: I think it' quite good.

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: Play yew if you don't want to be found, sure,

1235
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: but I've been to Perth and Adelaide. I wouldn't go back,

1236
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: and so how condinace come up with the list that

1237
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: you'd want to? I mean really, one of the recommendations

1238
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: in the top ten is Paramatta in Sydney. I mean

1239
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: it's not even Sydney. Sydney. I like, I got a

1240
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: lot of time for Sydney, but you haven't been to Paramatta.

1241
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: For all the places in Oceania, it's not in the

1242
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: top ten. Stop making stuff up, Mark and Ginny after.

1243
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: The news for you asking the questions others won't the

1244
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate

1245
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three news tog sad b I do.

1246
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 13: Love in good words.

1247
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: May Stables first album since twenty nineteen, Human Mind, was

1248
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: written specifically for her. Tom Waits is on board, Buddy

1249
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: Guy's in there as well. And you want to know

1250
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: how old to you? She's eighty six? Do you know what?

1251
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: I think? The secret of life is doing things you

1252
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: love and you'll look forever eighty six. You're still going strong,

1253
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Still the great voice reminds me.

1254
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 9: Of Warren Buffet.

1255
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: I was reading about him yesterday he released his letter

1256
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: and his health update. I'll get to that by time

1257
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: later on at the program. But anyway, he still goes

1258
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: to the office five day's leaving, of course, but goes

1259
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: to the uppice five days a week, and even then

1260
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: drinks the Coca cola and has survived. Anyway, It's eight

1261
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: minutes past eight. Time for politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with

1262
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: us along with Ginny Anderson. Morning to you both.

1263
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 9: Morning, Mike, morning Jiliff, Good morning to base.

1264
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: Right. So to you first, Ginny, because we've sort of

1265
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: heard from Mark and the news today, and we've heard

1266
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: from Chambers of course, so a lot of people immediately

1267
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: and this is this is the fascinating thing about politics

1268
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: days and dates and times. Most people want me to

1269
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: grill you and nail you to the wall because you

1270
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: were the police minister when Coster God appointed, which, of

1271
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: course you'll immediately tell me is not the case, won't you.

1272
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 21: Well, no, I wasn't when he was appointed. He was

1273
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 21: already commissioner when I was Minister of Place exactly.

1274
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: So just for the record, you know, what about any

1275
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: of this, I.

1276
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 9: Was not informed.

1277
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 21: Nothing was raised with me during my time as Minister

1278
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 21: for Police. But saying that, and having read that report

1279
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 21: in the small hours of this morning, we understand that

1280
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 21: there's been multiple emails sent to multiple ministers' officers and

1281
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 21: so that search is now going on to see if

1282
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 21: there were emails sent that went raised.

1283
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: If you got sent emails, it wouldn't be unusual. I mean,

1284
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: how many emails as a minister would you receive on

1285
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: any given week or month? And would it be unusual

1286
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: if I wrote to you and said I want you

1287
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: to look at this because I've got a problem that

1288
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: you wouldn't see it. And is that a dereliction of

1289
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: some sort of duty.

1290
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 21: Yeah, we get one hundreds and Mark will be the same.

1291
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 21: You get hundreds of emails, and specifically in the police portfolio,

1292
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 21: you do get a range of different accusations coming and

1293
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 21: you try. You know, office staff are trained to seft

1294
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 21: through those to the best of their ability and take

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Speaker 21: the right action with each of those emails.

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Speaker 2: Now you did get emails, Mark, You're you're saying this

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Speaker 2: morning that costs have blocked you from seeing them.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, they just they put a protocol in place whereby

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Speaker 22: I was not to have visibility on it or any

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Speaker 22: of my political stuff, and they were going to be

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Speaker 22: handled by P and HQ. So I had no visibility

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Speaker 22: on any emails that I received, you know, that came

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Speaker 22: through my office.

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Speaker 2: Is there a question to be asked that if your

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Speaker 2: office did receive emails and the police were going, we'll

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Speaker 2: take care of it, thank you very much, that no

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Speaker 2: one in your office at any point would go that's interesting. Mark,

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Speaker 2: By the way, do you realize this is going on?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think the context around it is that because

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Speaker 22: number one, I just want to say that my private

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Speaker 22: police private sects in my office who are police employees,

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Speaker 22: are quite simply outstanding. They had no reason to question

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Speaker 22: an instruction coming from P and HQ, particularly the Commissioner's office,

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Speaker 22: because they would have thought, oh, this is great. The

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Speaker 22: commissioner is dealing with this, so you know it's been

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Speaker 22: dealt with at the highest level, so you know, there's

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Speaker 22: nothing on them at all. They are outstanding, they do

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Speaker 22: a great job. But quite simply, it was a protocol

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Speaker 22: that was put in place that is really consistent with

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Speaker 22: the bad behavior that we've seen bought Ford and highlighted

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Speaker 22: in the IPCA report which meant that I got no

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Speaker 22: visibility on them.

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Speaker 2: I asked Chambers, this interested in your view, Mark, who's

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Speaker 2: the bigger the criminal? I use the word loosely, who's

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Speaker 2: the bigger criminal in this cost or or mc skimming?

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Speaker 2: Mc skimming for doing what he's clearly done and the

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Speaker 2: court admitted to in the rest of it, or cost

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Speaker 2: of for covering it?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think obviously Mick Skimming. I can't talk to

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Speaker 22: the U to the court case because although he's pled guilty,

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Speaker 22: they still have sentencing to come up. What I'd say, Mike,

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Speaker 22: is that all of them, in my view, are as

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Speaker 22: bad as each other. It is atrocious behavior. They have

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Speaker 22: put the rest of our outstanding police officers in an

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Speaker 22: awful position, who turn up every day and quite simply

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Speaker 22: do outstanding work. You know, they've all been moved on.

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Speaker 22: It's up to myself and the Commissioner now to work

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Speaker 22: hard and put in place measures that people the public

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Speaker 22: can have confidence that this will not happen again.

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Speaker 2: Have they been moved on and retired and have got

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Speaker 2: payouts or and or is there any criminal activity involved

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Speaker 2: that or pending criminal activity?

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Speaker 22: Well, that's something that the commission and the police that's operational.

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Speaker 22: They'll have to have a look at all that I

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Speaker 22: can say. And again I'm not going to talk to

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Speaker 22: each individual employment case, but all I'd say is that

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Speaker 22: all of them have moved on. They have all gone

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Speaker 22: and that was the right thing to do, without a doubt.

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Speaker 22: When you read the IPCA report.

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Speaker 2: Is there any political blowback, Jenny, Not for you personally,

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Speaker 2: but for the labor government. I mean Costa was an

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Speaker 2: out of the box appointment. Was a captain's call from

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Speaker 2: adern backed I'm assuming by Nash at the time he

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Speaker 2: was seen as like political, is there problems for you

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Speaker 2: down the track or not?

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Speaker 21: Well, the fact that nothing was raised with me, or

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Speaker 21: with other ministers of Police or even with the Prime

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Speaker 21: Minister demonstrates that there was a real failure there a

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Speaker 21: failure of duty on behalf of police to keep people

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Speaker 21: informed and in my main issue is that New Zealanders

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Speaker 21: should have every confidence that if they take a complaint

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Speaker 21: to police that it is investigated fully, and particularly for

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Speaker 21: sexual violence, we know we have that underreported and so

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Speaker 21: that is my problem is that it does erode public

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Speaker 21: trust and confidence that taking a complaint forward will be

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Speaker 21: taken seriously and investigated Real.

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Speaker 2: Break More in a Moment, Mark Mitchell, Jenny Anderson, th

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson with us. Mark, if Costa can turn an

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Speaker 2: eye or a blind eye to this, what else did

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Speaker 2: he turn a blind eye to? And when will you

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Speaker 2: be able to answer that question definitively?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think that without a doubt. You know, Commissioner

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Speaker 22: Chambers will be going back now and they'll be doing

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Speaker 22: their own pretty thorough internal investigations based off the IPCA

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Speaker 22: report that's that's come out. I mean, for both of

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Speaker 22: us now, we're really focused on making sure that we

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Speaker 22: give the public a sense that we're moving quickly and

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Speaker 22: we're doing the things that we need to do to

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Speaker 22: prevent this from happening again, and obviously making sure that

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Speaker 22: we are supporting and reinforcing our front line, who unfairly

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Speaker 22: will be dragged into this because every day we've got

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Speaker 22: our fifteen thousand stuff that get up and just quite

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Speaker 22: simply do outstanding work. For me, you know, sort of

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Speaker 22: five months into the job as the new Minister, I

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Speaker 22: was bringing forward concerns for the PSC about the capability

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Speaker 22: and delivery of the of the police executive. I didn't

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Speaker 22: have much confidence in them. And the only reason I

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Speaker 22: can think of that that Labor themselves, this was their

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Speaker 22: executive that they appointed didn't do that is because they

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Speaker 22: had a rolling wall of ministers. They had Poto Williams,

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Speaker 22: Chris Hipkins, Stuart Nash, Meaghan Woods and Jinny. But the

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Speaker 22: reality here is we just got to look forward. We

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Speaker 22: just got to make the changes now and put the

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Speaker 22: things in place to be able to fix this and

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Speaker 22: give the public assents that they've got every reason to

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Speaker 22: be able to have confidence. We've appointed an outstanding commissioner,

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Speaker 22: Richard Chambers. The actions that he's taken in his first

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Speaker 22: twelve months around the refocus on integery and standards has

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Speaker 22: been outstanding. And I know that I made some you know,

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Speaker 22: in my first twelve months. I had a big focus

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Speaker 22: on that too, because I did feel like there had

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Speaker 22: been a degradation and focus around standards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Mark, I don't want to turn this political

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Speaker 2: this morning. There's a difference between being useless and being well.

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Speaker 2: You know, once again loosely used a crook. Jenny, if

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Speaker 2: I'd come to you as minister and said, look, you

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Speaker 2: got half a dozen in there that are clearly up

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Speaker 2: to no good, would you have been surprised?

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Speaker 21: We had absolutely no information from police that this was occurring,

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Speaker 21: and so of course we have high expectations of the

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Speaker 21: level of service and the duty of police, and we

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Speaker 21: had trust and confidence at that point in time that

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Speaker 21: they were.

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Speaker 2: Doing their work. Well, what happens to people.

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Speaker 21: So what we do support though, and I think it's

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Speaker 21: I've been encouraged to date that there's been some good

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Speaker 21: recommendations set forward of how we work, whether you're labor

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Speaker 21: or national on how we put this right. And I

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Speaker 21: think the recommendations to try and restore public confidence, including

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Speaker 21: the appointment of Inspector General, is something that we can

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Speaker 21: both work on together. And essentially I think we need

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Speaker 21: to do remove the politics from this because I think

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Speaker 21: it is so important that New Zealanders have that trust

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Speaker 21: and confidence restored in New Zealand police that this is

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Speaker 21: something that goes beyond political lines.

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Speaker 2: Do you know, either of you? So Costa loses his

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Speaker 2: job now, I'm assuming assuming also he's done nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: in his new job. Does he walk with a payout.

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Speaker 22: I can't, to be honest with you, as a minister

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Speaker 22: might I can't speak to that because there is a

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Speaker 22: PSC process underway and I can't compromise that. Sorry, Petter,

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Speaker 22: if he did, would it looked bad. Well, I think

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Speaker 22: most members of the public would. That would be their

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Speaker 22: view on it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 22: I just think that we've got a lot of work

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Speaker 22: to do, without a doubt, and we're just getting on

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Speaker 22: with it. And you know that the enormity and the

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Speaker 22: size and the atrocious behavior of our most senior police

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Speaker 22: officers in the country is a complete and utter you know,

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Speaker 22: breaking the trust that they have with the public.

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Speaker 14: We've got to Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 22: And but but the one thing I'd say, Mike, if

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Speaker 22: I just finish on this is it is in the

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Speaker 22: last couple of weeks, I've been to several awards ceremonies

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Speaker 22: for our police. Most of those awards that have had

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Speaker 22: that our are police officers that have put themselves at

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Speaker 22: risking their own lives on the line to save members

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Speaker 22: of the public. That's what they do every day. They

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Speaker 22: deserve to have our support. This is a very small

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Speaker 22: bunch of individuals at the top of the organization I

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Speaker 22: get that, and I recognize that we're going to move

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Speaker 22: to make sure that we fix it. Yes, we are

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Speaker 22: going to put an inspector general in place. That's important now,

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Speaker 22: and I just want to give everyone a sense that

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Speaker 22: both the Commissioner and I are working very hard to

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Speaker 22: make sure that we can maintain public support and our

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Speaker 22: police and that we continue to support them.

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Speaker 2: Well said Ginny, you can answer them by half of

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Speaker 2: both of you, because I've got a bit of this

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Speaker 2: this morning. I don't believe it's represented at the wider public,

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Speaker 2: but this is nevertheless, Mike, these two politicians covering their asses.

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Speaker 2: How can anyone trust politicians and police?

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Speaker 21: You say, what, Well, it's very clear that nothing was

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Speaker 21: raised with me during my time as Police Minister by

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Speaker 21: the police. So if we don't have that information and

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Speaker 21: we're not briefed on what is happening, then it removes

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Speaker 21: their ability to act decisively. And I think that any

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Speaker 21: minister are respective of the political party, if they were

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Speaker 21: provided with this information, they would not have appointed those

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Speaker 21: people and they would have taken action.

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Speaker 2: Well, so appreciate it.

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Speaker 22: Actions speak louder than words, and we just got to

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Speaker 22: get on and do actions now.

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Speaker 2: issue is a symptomatic of the blow of public service

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Speaker 2: grown by the Adrenehipkins regime, when eighteen thousand bureaucrats are

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Speaker 2: auted to the public service under a woke recruitment system

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Speaker 2: with accountability and responsibility lacking in the job descriptions of

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Speaker 2: senior middle managers. Corruption prevails. Cost was an adirn favorite,

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Speaker 2: just another appalling legacy of her time as PM. It'll

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Speaker 2: be interesting to see whether that plays out that way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I still delineate between being useless and corrupt.

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Speaker 2: There is a lot of useless people in life that

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Speaker 2: aren't remotely corrupt. And when you appoint a person that

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Speaker 2: you can argue, I mean, useless breeds useless, doesn't it

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Speaker 2: yet a useless prime minister and a useless administration they

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Speaker 2: tend to appoint useless people. I'll bore you one day

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Speaker 2: with the story of TV and said, when I was

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: there under ironically the Clark government, when they appointed the

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Speaker 2: wrong board chair, who appointed the wrong chief executive, who

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Speaker 2: went and appointed the wrong head of news, who went

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Speaker 2: and appointed the wrong host for close up as it

1514
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: was then, it was just dumb people make dumb decisions.

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Speaker 2: But none of them are necessarily crooks, and there's a

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Speaker 2: distinct difference. But speaking of which, Steve Price next, This

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Speaker 2: NARU thing's gone seemingly horrifically wrong. So Australia's playing NARU millions,

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Speaker 2: and many of them two in fact billions. Let's call

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Speaker 2: it what it is to an R billion to take

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Speaker 2: the people in Australia they don't want. Now. The problem is,

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 2: perhaps not surprisingly, the allegations of corruption inside the government,

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Speaker 2: the offshore attention regime, the whole thing are flying thick

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: and fast. And that's before you get to a fascinating

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Speaker 2: thing I read about the late Graham Richardson yesterday. Away

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Speaker 2: will cover all of this off with our good mate

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Speaker 2: Steve who's with us from Australia. After the News which

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Speaker 2: is next here on the my Cosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 4: To the.

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Speaker 1: Tough on Power, Sharp On Insight, the my Hosking Breakfast

1530
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Speaker 1: with a Veda Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be surely cost A blocking Mitchell from receiving his emails

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Speaker 2: without lawful purposes of crime? No, no, it is not. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not even close to being a crime. And what

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: you've got in a minister's office is, in this particular case,

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Speaker 2: in the Minister of Police's office, you've got police officers

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Speaker 2: who work and interface between the minister and the police.

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01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 2: So if cost goes to the police within the minister's

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Speaker 2: office and go hey, all that sort of stuff. You

1539
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: you were on to it, you leave it to me.

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Speaker 2: There's not only not any crime, there's probably not only

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: no red flag because the job the guy for all

1542
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: intensive purposes looks like he's doing his job. So the

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01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: numbernumber of dots that have been drawn this morning has

1544
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: been a fascinating insight into the way some people think.

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01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 17: Note international correspondence with endsit eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 17: for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Business and afraid you do place very good money to you,

1549
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Speaker 2: lining Itte. Now where are we at knit zero and

1550
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: the coalition falling apart?

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Speaker 11: Well, this is going to be very interesting. The first

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 11: of three meetings, yes I said three, will take place

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Speaker 11: in Canberra today. So what the Liberals, the liberal side

1554
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 11: of the coalition have done is called all their MPs

1555
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Speaker 11: back to Canberra. It's not a sitting week, so they've

1556
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 11: all had to and one of them was very cranky yesterday.

1557
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 11: Who's an ex serviceman who said he had to leave

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Speaker 11: his friends who family died in war and he had

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 11: to go back to Canberra. So they're not very happy

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Speaker 11: about having to actually go back there. Anyway. The meeting

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Speaker 11: today will include presentations from this energy spokesman, a blood

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 11: called Dan teen. The Federal Director is going to talk

1563
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 11: to them, and they'll big contributions from MPs on both sides,

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 11: and they're supposed to come out of that meeting today

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Speaker 11: with some sort of plan to either retain the commitment

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Speaker 11: to net zero or dump it. Now, there'll be a

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 11: second meeting that'll take place on Thursday, and this will

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 11: be with the Liberal shadow ministers. Now you think that

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 11: would be it that they then be able to go, right,

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 11: We're going to keep the Paris Agreement and dump net zero.

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01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 11: Oh no, They're then going to be a committee of

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01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 11: senior Liberals and Nationals that are going to meet on Sunday.

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 11: Now in the middle of all of this, of course,

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01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 11: you got Susan Lee her leaderships on the line. But

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 11: the bigger problem, I think is not even her. The

1576
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 11: big problem is if the Liberals can't land a position

1577
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 11: that the Nationals are happy with it, then the coalition

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 11: will split. As you might remember, Mike, that happened just

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 11: after the election, after that amiliating defeat, and they got

1580
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 11: back together very quickly. But this could split the coalition

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01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 11: yet again. So we have to wait and sit through

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 11: three meetings makes them look ridiculous.

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01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: To be honest, yes it does, and from a distance

1584
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: it looks bizarre. Is it possible if they do split

1585
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: that once all the anger and frustration and fury settles

1586
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: in future elections, you get what we have in this

1587
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: country these coalition type arrangements, whereby you can have sort

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 2: of aligned parties that don't agree on everything, but broadly

1589
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: they coalesce together reasonably. Well is that sort of thing possible?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

1591
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 11: Because this coalition has been together I can't even remember

1593
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 11: how many years, but they have to have the same position,

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01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 11: particularly on this because the Labor Party is just sitting

1595
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 11: back and laughing and saying, well, look at this mob.

1596
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 11: They got no idea what they want to do about

1597
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 11: climate change. That's the simplistic view of Labor, which the

1598
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 11: public here is and goes, well, why vote for them?

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 11: There are a bunch of dinosaurs. They don't even understand

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Speaker 11: climate change. So it's going to be very interesting to

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01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 11: see what happens.

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Speaker 2: ABC caught up on this Trump thing with the not

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Speaker 2: four corners but the BBC?

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Speaker 11: Are they ever? Four corners is the right thing? That's

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 11: the pro The Senator is called for an investigation. Four

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01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 11: corners d an episode in twenty twenty one, same speech

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Speaker 11: by Donald Trump, same speech. It was adopted by the

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Speaker 11: BBC and cost the head of the BBC and they

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 11: head to News their jobs. But the ABC says, well, yeah,

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Speaker 11: we're not going to investigate this because well, our ombardsman's

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01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 11: remit only allows our ombudsman to review editor and material

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Speaker 11: published before June twenty twenty four, twenty twenty two. I'm sorry.

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01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 11: So they're saying, well, no, sorry, it happened before the

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Speaker 11: ombudsman was in place, and so we can't investigate it.

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 11: But when you look at the clip, it's not the

1616
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 11: exact removal of the quote from Donald Trump, but it's

1617
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 11: damn near. It's where Trump says, let's go down and

1618
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 11: celebrate our great senators. They cut that out and married

1619
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 11: the clip up together, just as the BBC did, And

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 11: I think this has.

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Speaker 1: Got a fair way to go.

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Speaker 19: I reckon this.

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Speaker 11: I'd end up with a full blown inquiry into what

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 11: the ABC has been up to.

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Speaker 2: Well, if Trump's lawyers find out, might end up in

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01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: court the way the BBC looked like heading to quarter

1627
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: this youth crime. When we talk of a youth crime

1628
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,879
Speaker 2: crackdown in Victoria or is this like a press conference

1629
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: or is this an actual crackdown that will materially solve

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: a problem.

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Speaker 11: Finally, I think the latter, because to send her out

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01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 11: on the premier and this has been broken today in

1633
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 11: the Australia newspaper. She's going to make an announcement today

1634
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 11: that if you do adult crime, you do adult time.

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01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 11: It's a copy of the Queensland Laws.

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: Good.

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 11: She's going to promise to force children as young as

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01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 11: fullteen into adult courts, exposed them to longer jail time,

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01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 11: including life sentences. So what will happen if you commit

1640
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 11: an adult crime like a carjacking or a home invasion

1641
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 11: or holding a machete, and you are charged by Victoria police,

1642
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 11: you go straight to the county court. You will no

1643
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 11: longer be sentenced in the children's court. That's a massive change. Obviously,

1644
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 11: the Labor Party and the left of the Labor Party,

1645
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 11: which is just sender Ellen, have realized they're go an

1646
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 11: election coming up in November next year and the community

1647
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 11: are completely filthy about the lack of law and order

1648
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 11: and particularly teenage crime. So she's decided to move Now

1649
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 11: it's a real big backflip for her. She also made

1650
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 11: a promise a couple of months ago about banning masks

1651
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 11: on people at protests. She's done a backflip on that.

1652
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 11: The only time you can be banned from wearing a

1653
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 11: mask is if a police officer asks you to take

1654
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 11: it off.

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01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: Okay. A couple of quick things I require your expertise

1656
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: on that I'm reading yesterday, This narru thing, the two

1657
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 2: and a half billion dollars, the dealal you've done in

1658
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: the allege now wrought in graft bikey gangs, all the

1659
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: other nonsense. Does anyone care or not?

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01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 11: It's a long way away and we think of the

1661
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 11: Rue as a place where we send illegal migrants. Probably

1662
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 11: the nah Ruined government cares. But is it a political

1663
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 11: issue in Australia. No one worries about it really, to

1664
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 11: be honest.

1665
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: Okay. The other thing I read yesterday a woman called

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01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: Kate McClymont about her many years in dealing with the

1667
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 2: late Graham Richardson and the stuff he got up to

1668
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: allegedly was interesting. Given if you accept her account of

1669
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: his life and his dealings and doings, how is it

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01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: that nel bene Easy can offer him a state funeral.

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01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 11: Are you laughing about the incident in the restaurant where

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01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 11: the woman through a kangaroo scrotum full of cash at

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01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 11: his head.

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Speaker 2: There's that, but the hookers, the Swiss bank accounts and

1675
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: all the rest. I mean, the guy was clearly as

1676
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: crooked as they come. But a political you know, big

1677
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: where I get all of that. But you know, so

1678
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: do we pretend that didn't happen and have a state funeral?

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Speaker 11: Apparently Kate mcclemont wrote that piece, which is one of

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Speaker 11: the great pieces of journalism I've read in recent years,

1681
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 11: and she's probably had that sitting in her top drawer

1682
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 11: waiting for Graham to die. I did deal with Graham

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01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 11: on Sky. He was a regular there for something like

1684
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 11: twenty three years. I've peted on panels with him. I

1685
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 11: interviewed him. The sins all seemed to be forgotten, and

1686
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 11: Anthony Aberdezi was very quick to jump at the idea

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01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 11: of a state funeral. I think he may now be

1688
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 11: looking at that and thinking why did I do it?

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Speaker 11: I mean, particularly given that Antony Abertzi comes from a

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01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 11: different faction of the labor pard. He comes from the

1691
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 11: hard left and rich I was from the hard right,

1692
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 11: So he may worry about that. I am pleased to

1693
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 11: say that someone who else has got a state funeral

1694
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 11: will be the great John Laws. That happens, I'll make

1695
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 11: sure i'm that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Good on you, mate, Go well and

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with you next week. Appreciate it very

1698
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: much if you haven't read it. Graham Richardson, who died

1699
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: the other day, very big player on the Labor Party

1700
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: over many many years. Kate mclement's account of and obviously

1701
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: the reason she couldn't write it is because she would

1702
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: have been bailed up straight to court. But the stories

1703
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: are just eye watering and it starts with the line

1704
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: I know that you know, but you'll never be able

1705
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: to prove it, And that was Richardson too. Mcclemon. So

1706
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 2: she waited to lee die because you cannot defame a

1707
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Speaker 2: dead person.

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Speaker 2: There be just before we leave Australia. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Alan Jones Winger Broadcasting, you mentioned John Laws. With Allan

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 2: Jones his hearing, He's going to include more than one

1713
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: hundred witnesses. It's going to begin next to August. It's

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01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: going to last up to four months. The prosecution denied

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01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: or deprived according to the defense, a jury trial which

1716
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: they wanted, twenty seven sexual offense charges, nine complainants. It's

1717
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 2: been going for a year since he first got pinged

1718
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 2: and they're not even in court. So the pace of

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 2: justice does not move smoothly or quickly in Australia. The

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Speaker 2: other thing that's interesting I read yesterday Keating made some

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Speaker 2: interesting comments. They're doing a fifty sort of anniversary thing

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Speaker 2: the Old Parliament House, the Museum of Australian Democracy at

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Speaker 2: the Old Parliament House in Camber. They're making a documentary

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Speaker 2: about the Curse scenario and Whitland the sacking of constitutional

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Speaker 2: crisis of the highest order that racked Australia some fifty

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Speaker 2: years ago. Keating said he would have put Sir John

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Speaker 2: Kerr under police arrest. He'd been appointed, by the way

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Speaker 2: the Minister of the Northern Australia just a fortnight before

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Speaker 2: the events. This is November eleven, nineteen seventy five. GoF Whitlandham.

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Speaker 2: In the hours after Curse sacked, the Prime Minister appointed

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Fraser. If he refused to go kurse should have

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Speaker 2: been locked up by the local police. The events of

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Speaker 2: that day, says Keating, were a coup led by one man.

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Speaker 2: As a mister Kerr, we're interviewing Turnbull on Friday. Happens

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Speaker 2: Turnbull's coming to the country and we thought we'd get

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Speaker 2: him on speaking of former Australian Prime minists, I might

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Speaker 2: ask him about that to see how I'm feeling at

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Speaker 2: the time. Ten away from nine.

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Speaker 2: or if you prefer the phone, oh, eight hundred resonate

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Speaker 2: tasking its Buffett was out there yesterday. He's the He's

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Speaker 2: passing a lot of his money on to his children.

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01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: He's got a hund and forty nine billion of it,

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Speaker 2: passing it on to their charities and their fundraising initiatives.

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Speaker 2: He's going to keep some back. The Shehar's some back

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Speaker 2: until they The new guy's taking over as a guy

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Speaker 2: called Abel. He's sixty three, warrens ninety five. So this

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Speaker 2: new guy able if you're a bit dodgy on him,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to keep some shares aside just so you'll

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Speaker 2: feel confident. But the kids already, he says, feel confident,

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Speaker 2: so therefore you should too. But anyway, the important party

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Speaker 2: gave a very rare health update, because at ninety five

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Speaker 2: and still going to the office five days a week's incredible.

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Speaker 2: To my surprise, I generally feel good. Though I move

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01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: slowly and read with increasing difficulty. I am at the

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Speaker 2: office five days a week where I work with wonderful people.

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Speaker 2: I was late and becoming old, but once it appears,

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Speaker 2: it is not to be denied. It's nicely good, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: And he drinks the Coca cola? Is there something in that?

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Speaker 2: Because Trump drinks the Coca cola and he's not doing

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Speaker 2: bad for a seventy eight year old. Maybe it's the

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: coca cola. Maybe I should take up some Coca cola.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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Speaker 2: Right are the biopic or biopic of Michael Jackson first

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01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 2: trailer route and a lot of people watching the trailer,

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Speaker 2: probably so many that don't even need to watch the biopic,

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01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: so it's broken recle for the most views in the

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Speaker 2: first twenty four hours of a biopic or biopic one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen point two million people. And now you're one.

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Speaker 20: I know you've been waiting a long time for this.

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Speaker 20: The tracks are made, the songs are ready. Let's take

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Speaker 20: it from the top. This is your story. I know

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Speaker 20: your past.

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Speaker 14: So you want to be star.

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Speaker 9: And embrace the future.

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Speaker 2: That's what people want.

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Speaker 16: Que can you lie the it from you please?

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Speaker 9: Okay?

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Speaker 20: But remember in here keep those feets still my man.

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Speaker 2: Previous record hold it was Taylor Swift The Ears to

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01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: It had ninety six million. Bob Marley's One Love had

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01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: sixty million. Michael Jackson's real life nephew, Jappar is playing Michael,

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Speaker 2: and the most of you trailer ever in the first

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 2: twenty four hours is Dead Paul V. Wolverine three hundred

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01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 2: and sixty five million, which is extraordinary. Speak you wish.

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Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman is on the program in a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks time. He's got a new movie out, Thunder and

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Speaker 2: Lightning Song Sung Blue, I Won't If you read the story,

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Speaker 2: He's with Kate Hudson. So Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson

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Speaker 2: are on the program if you read. And it's based

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Speaker 2: on a documentary which is based on a real life story,

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Speaker 2: and we.

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Speaker 10: Played the trailer for it in this very segment a

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Speaker 10: little while ago.

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Speaker 2: Correct, is that all the fun facts you've got Glynn. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you read the story, the real life story of

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Speaker 2: what happened to these two people, and you pitched it

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01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 2: as a movie, people would laugh you out of the

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01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: room because it's it's ridiculous, but it actually happened. If

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Speaker 2: Hughes made the movie, So Hugh and Kate Hudson will

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Speaker 2: listen a couple of weeks time. Meantime, we're back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: morning from six as always Heavy Days.

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