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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names,

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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Welcome into the Sunday edition of Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: on News Talks EDB August eighteen, Happy birthday to Australian

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Speaker 2: golfer Cameron Smith. I'm Jason Pine Show producer is Any McDonnell.

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Speaker 3: Be All Blacks good without what aiden Park?

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Speaker 2: Border line from Elliott Smith and what a response from

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks forty two to ten winners last night

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Speaker 2: thirty five to three at half time emphatic ruthless a

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Speaker 2: statement reaction to defeat last weekend in Wellington. All Black's

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Speaker 2: assistant coach Scott Hansen standing by to chat with us shortly,

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Speaker 2: very keen to hear your feedback on what you saw

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Speaker 2: last night. Lines and immediately and right across the afternoon

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Speaker 2: on the All Blacks Are the Matters around today? UFC

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Speaker 2: three oh five in Perth three from Citykickboxing Involved Israel

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Speaker 2: Adisigna Quikarta, France. Dan Hooker will preview the action after

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Speaker 2: one with Raven de Hernia from Sky Sport. The Blackfern

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Speaker 2: squad for next month's historic clash with England at Twickenham

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Speaker 2: and then on towards WXB and Canada has been revealed.

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Speaker 2: Try scoring sensation. Caitlin Vaha Collel is with us after two,

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Speaker 2: a refereeing milestone for Ben O'Keeffe. This afternoon, he's with

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Speaker 2: us to discuss that the new Premier League seasons underweight.

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Speaker 2: We'll get you to the UK on that with Tom

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Speaker 2: Rennie and James mcconey in his usual Sunday slot as well.

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Speaker 2: Heaps of Live Sport to keep an eye on this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: The latest indiecar race in Illinois Scott McLaughlin, as you

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Speaker 2: heard in our news right in the mix, he's second

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Speaker 2: behind Penske team mate Will Power and has actually currently

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Speaker 2: just gone into the lead with eighty laps. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to say to go how many laps to go? Andy?

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Speaker 2: We'll get back here with that, but it was ninety

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Speaker 2: during the sports news. I'm going to say eighty. Let's

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Speaker 2: see one eighty seven of two sixty That for me

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Speaker 2: leads seventy three laps to go and McLaughlin and the

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Speaker 2: lead Scott Dixon, Marcus Armstrong midpack will keep eyes on it.

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Speaker 2: Meantime in mid race penalty has affected Shane van Gisbergen's

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Speaker 2: latest NASCAR Exfinity Series race in Michigan seventeenth. He came

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Speaker 2: home Bunning's MPC Round two early pacesetters Bay of Plenty

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Speaker 2: up against North Harbor Todonga five past two, Wellington Taranaki

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Speaker 2: potty doer at the same time, and the Fara Palmer Cup,

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Speaker 2: North Harbor and Tasman have just kicked off at Albany.

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Speaker 2: Canterbury take on Way Cuttle in christ Church from five

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Speaker 2: past two and Chatham Cup Football semi finals this afternoon

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Speaker 2: Coastal Spirit against Wellington Olympic and christ Church from one.

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Speaker 2: Auckland City up against Birkenhead and Auckland from two. Will

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Speaker 2: keep eyes on all of that for you as well.

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Speaker 2: The show is yours though to add two if you

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Speaker 2: would like to very keen to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff this afternoon, particularly last night at

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World.

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Speaker 1: Weekends Sport with Jason five They call eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: Blind goes Peda, Nuri looked at his left hands. I

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Speaker 2: Pack Fine five, All Blacks forty two, Argentina ten. Let's

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Speaker 2: bring in All Black's assistant coach, Scott Hansen. Scott, thanks

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Speaker 2: for taking our call this afternoon. How much of what

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Speaker 2: we saw last night was a response to what happened

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Speaker 4: The response we talked around was the detail and the

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Speaker 4: Still things to work on and we'll continue that mindset

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Speaker 2: Sam Kaine said afterwards. The first half was a clinic.

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Speaker 4: And what that led to, Jason was good kick pressure

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Speaker 4: And what happened last night was with the weather coming

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Speaker 2: How do you simplify a game of rugby effectively?

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Speaker 5: We spoke at halftime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fair fair Christian Jason around.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't have come as a surprise though what

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Speaker 2: I was personally delighted for him, But you wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: And I'm surprised at all. He's a competitor, he's a

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Speaker 4: Last night we showed when we were better there what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought last night he was immature and how

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Speaker 4: So are really happy for him. Body Barrett's giving him

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Speaker 2: The field and just to finish, how important was it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, massive opportunity to get over there. Just watching South Africa,

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Speaker 5: We're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll step right towards that vines with our game

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Speaker 4: and what that looks like. A testaments rugby, as we

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Speaker 4: we've got to earn some of those for outset place

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Speaker 5: We're looking forward to getting on the plane.

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Speaker 4: Days off, get home with the family. We spoke to

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Speaker 7: We wanted to start well and I thought we did that,

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Speaker 2: How much of tonight, particularly the first half, was a

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Speaker 10: No doubt.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, mate, they're all good buggers. It's heated at times

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Speaker 2: and that's three times now that they've lost to Argentina,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to congratulate the referee on the way here

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Speaker 2: fish out of the game allowing it to flow. Another

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Speaker 2: one here from Lyn Pinty, the ref deserves praise. I

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Speaker 2: thought the ref was terrific last night, really really good

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Speaker 2: a lot. That was his first rugby championship game. I

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Speaker 11: Yeah, pioneer, I'm still here. I'm still here, just not

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Speaker 11: risking over exposure, but I'm still here. Carry on. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 11: everyone played pretty well, I thought. I mean, what an

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Speaker 11: They did what I'm sure they weren't listening to me

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Speaker 11: anything else you want to ask me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. You make a good point about keeping

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Speaker 2: it thirty five three lead at halftime just brought them

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the fact that they were so dominant in

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Speaker 2: from one. I spoke to TJ pet and Ada after

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Speaker 12: Was good boys, boys come out firing, we were fighting,

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Speaker 12: simplified a bunch of our games tonight and Dave the boys,

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Speaker 12: you know, some clear tasks out there, and it was.

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Speaker 9: Good Man for a big portion of that first half.

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Speaker 12: I thought we were in control. Boys of physical and

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Speaker 2: Was it a tough week after Wellington, it was a

434
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Speaker 2: normal week.

435
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Speaker 12: If I'm being completely honest with you, I know media

436
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Speaker 12: and I guess outside noise, we write it up because

437
00:22:10,507 --> 00:22:12,987
Speaker 12: it's entertainment and it's a story, and I get it.

438
00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:15,627
Speaker 12: But for us, all for me personally, regardless of this

439
00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:18,427
Speaker 12: one without lost last week, my approach to a weed

440
00:22:18,907 --> 00:22:21,027
Speaker 12: is the same. I'm trying to get better and I'm

441
00:22:21,067 --> 00:22:22,787
Speaker 12: trying to be the best player I.

442
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Speaker 9: Can be, regardless of results. So I guess from.

443
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Speaker 12: An outside perspective year it might have been a little

444
00:22:28,027 --> 00:22:30,467
Speaker 12: bit different, but internally we try and treat things very

445
00:22:30,547 --> 00:22:31,027
Speaker 12: much the same.

446
00:22:31,387 --> 00:22:33,987
Speaker 2: And Will Jordan's first try set up by you the snipe,

447
00:22:34,307 --> 00:22:36,187
Speaker 2: just like rolling back the years. I loved it, mate.

448
00:22:36,187 --> 00:22:38,227
Speaker 2: What did you see when you what Pixius? Did you

449
00:22:38,227 --> 00:22:38,867
Speaker 2: see in your head?

450
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Speaker 12: Well, they had a prop on the side of a

451
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Speaker 12: war there, and with the new laws he can't actually

452
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Speaker 12: influence a tackle, so that that's something we sort of

453
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Speaker 12: looked at throughout our week.

454
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Speaker 9: And then having Will Jordan there bowing for a ball,

455
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Speaker 9: it is always it's always a good option. He knows

456
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Speaker 9: how to.

457
00:22:54,427 --> 00:22:57,067
Speaker 12: Finish a try and and he did very well today.

458
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Speaker 12: He ends up scoring another one later in the piece.

459
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Speaker 12: But he's a good football player.

460
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Speaker 2: Man, he has a good football player. Will Jordan, he will,

461
00:23:04,227 --> 00:23:06,947
Speaker 2: I think, almost inevitably break the All Blacks Trice scoring record.

462
00:23:06,987 --> 00:23:08,667
Speaker 2: Now it just seems like that's just a fight of

463
00:23:08,707 --> 00:23:12,587
Speaker 2: complete Doug Hallett's forty nine Test tries. Others have kind

464
00:23:12,627 --> 00:23:15,067
Speaker 2: of threatened over the years to do that. Rico your won,

465
00:23:15,987 --> 00:23:18,747
Speaker 2: Julian Savia had pointed out to me by Elliot Smith

466
00:23:18,747 --> 00:23:21,867
Speaker 2: A Boden Barrett now has forty four Test tries. He

467
00:23:21,947 --> 00:23:24,947
Speaker 2: might get there before Will Jordan. But if Jordan continues

468
00:23:24,987 --> 00:23:26,427
Speaker 2: in the way he is with a try a test,

469
00:23:26,507 --> 00:23:29,347
Speaker 2: then it won't be too much longer before he has

470
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Speaker 2: that record. Hello Dean, hell is.

471
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Speaker 13: Their pony look thrilled me with their exiting from when

472
00:23:38,067 --> 00:23:40,787
Speaker 13: they kickoffs. You know when the opposing teen agent and

473
00:23:40,827 --> 00:23:43,987
Speaker 13: he kicked off the way that McKenzie made sure it

474
00:23:44,147 --> 00:23:47,107
Speaker 13: went straight to the touch. I caught every one of

475
00:23:47,147 --> 00:23:50,707
Speaker 13: them and also there was no kicking over the top

476
00:23:50,787 --> 00:23:54,627
Speaker 13: inside they're own twenty five and giving me the opposite

477
00:23:54,627 --> 00:23:57,987
Speaker 13: team the ball back which are absolutely the test.

478
00:23:58,347 --> 00:24:01,187
Speaker 2: The box, the box.

479
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Speaker 13: I cannot believe that they continued to that, especially you

480
00:24:07,107 --> 00:24:09,827
Speaker 13: see Astralia, they had Australian fallback what's his name, the

481
00:24:09,907 --> 00:24:13,427
Speaker 13: quick one. He never misses the ball and they always

482
00:24:13,507 --> 00:24:16,067
Speaker 13: run it back at you in an Ireland of course,

483
00:24:16,267 --> 00:24:18,227
Speaker 13: when they were out here, that's how they beat us.

484
00:24:18,507 --> 00:24:20,427
Speaker 13: We kicked it back to them and they said thank you,

485
00:24:21,067 --> 00:24:24,267
Speaker 13: and then they can in our line and scored. Yeah,

486
00:24:24,267 --> 00:24:26,707
Speaker 13: but that's what I was thrilled about. But the whole game.

487
00:24:26,747 --> 00:24:29,147
Speaker 13: I mean, I was in Rugby heaven last night. I've

488
00:24:29,187 --> 00:24:31,867
Speaker 13: had two heavens. I've come out of church this morning,

489
00:24:31,907 --> 00:24:35,667
Speaker 13: so I've had two heavens. Piny, I'm really blessed.

490
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Speaker 2: Brilliant Dean. I'm please, you've had a good eighteen hours

491
00:24:39,027 --> 00:24:42,107
Speaker 2: or so. My friend, Yeah, it was like I don't

492
00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:44,827
Speaker 2: think you could say it was heavenly Rugby necessarily from

493
00:24:44,827 --> 00:24:47,027
Speaker 2: the All Blacks last night, not across the eighty minutes. Anyway.

494
00:24:47,347 --> 00:24:48,827
Speaker 2: I've had a couple of people say, well, why are

495
00:24:48,867 --> 00:24:52,627
Speaker 2: you glorifying a substandard performance in the second half. I

496
00:24:52,627 --> 00:24:56,147
Speaker 2: don't think I am. I tend to focus on the

497
00:24:56,187 --> 00:24:58,227
Speaker 2: positive most of the time, and I thought what they

498
00:24:58,227 --> 00:25:00,547
Speaker 2: did in the first half last night was terrific. I

499
00:25:00,547 --> 00:25:04,187
Speaker 2: think you can be impressed with it. Was anybody not

500
00:25:04,267 --> 00:25:08,067
Speaker 2: impressed at halftime. Yes, of course they would have, as

501
00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:10,067
Speaker 2: I say, like to have scored more in the second half,

502
00:25:11,107 --> 00:25:14,187
Speaker 2: you know, increase the scoreline. Scott Hansen said himself. You know,

503
00:25:14,227 --> 00:25:16,627
Speaker 2: we need to look at what happens in the second

504
00:25:16,627 --> 00:25:19,467
Speaker 2: half and you know, take our lessons from that and

505
00:25:19,547 --> 00:25:24,747
Speaker 2: they will. But I feel like we're very much drinking

506
00:25:24,787 --> 00:25:26,987
Speaker 2: from a half empty glass, aren't we if we focus

507
00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:29,827
Speaker 2: on the second half. I think we are allowed, aren't

508
00:25:29,827 --> 00:25:31,187
Speaker 2: we to look at the first half and say, you

509
00:25:31,187 --> 00:25:35,027
Speaker 2: know what, terrific easily the best half of football Undercott

510
00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:40,067
Speaker 2: Robertson by quite some distance, and a glimpse for us

511
00:25:40,107 --> 00:25:43,067
Speaker 2: across that forty minutes of the way he wants his

512
00:25:43,067 --> 00:25:45,507
Speaker 2: team to play. King to chat to you about it

513
00:25:45,547 --> 00:25:48,227
Speaker 2: if you look, if you if you would prefer to

514
00:25:48,747 --> 00:25:51,387
Speaker 2: pick up on some things which you were less impressed with,

515
00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:54,507
Speaker 2: then look, happy days. We're always open to all sorts

516
00:25:54,507 --> 00:25:57,107
Speaker 2: of opinions on the show. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

517
00:25:57,147 --> 00:25:58,547
Speaker 2: ten eighty. The invitation is there?

518
00:25:58,587 --> 00:26:06,947
Speaker 14: Hello, Phil, oh, hello Pony. Yeah, okay, I'm good, yeah, excellent, excellent, Okay,

519
00:26:07,027 --> 00:26:09,147
Speaker 14: I'll get into it. I do want to touch on

520
00:26:09,187 --> 00:26:13,107
Speaker 14: the second half, but there wasn't anything that I wasn't

521
00:26:13,827 --> 00:26:16,907
Speaker 14: disappointed with, you know, when you said just that there

522
00:26:16,947 --> 00:26:19,507
Speaker 14: was anything you were disappointed that, there wasn't anything on

523
00:26:19,507 --> 00:26:20,827
Speaker 14: the whole that I wasn't disappointed with.

524
00:26:20,867 --> 00:26:23,067
Speaker 15: But I thought.

525
00:26:23,067 --> 00:26:27,587
Speaker 14: Fantastic that first half. They come out so strong right

526
00:26:27,627 --> 00:26:30,387
Speaker 14: from the word go, and a couple of interesting things

527
00:26:30,387 --> 00:26:33,827
Speaker 14: that I think it was Glori Mains you might have

528
00:26:33,907 --> 00:26:36,667
Speaker 14: had on your show, or I heard him say he

529
00:26:36,747 --> 00:26:42,187
Speaker 14: was a bit bit puzzled about TJB and picked again,

530
00:26:42,307 --> 00:26:44,907
Speaker 14: you know, because of the first performance. But then I

531
00:26:44,947 --> 00:26:51,707
Speaker 14: think I heard John Kirwin say that maybe there was

532
00:26:51,747 --> 00:26:54,187
Speaker 14: an all black thing, an old school all black thinking,

533
00:26:54,227 --> 00:26:56,347
Speaker 14: where you give a guy a second chance. You know

534
00:26:56,507 --> 00:26:58,427
Speaker 14: you've don't go so well the first time, then you

535
00:26:58,427 --> 00:27:00,587
Speaker 14: give him a second chance, and then you look at

536
00:27:00,587 --> 00:27:05,187
Speaker 14: it two bad performances. So maybe that was the thinking

537
00:27:05,227 --> 00:27:07,187
Speaker 14: behind it was Scott Robin and since he would be

538
00:27:07,227 --> 00:27:09,787
Speaker 14: an old school kind of thinking, all black type thinking,

539
00:27:09,867 --> 00:27:12,667
Speaker 14: you know. And boy did that payoff because TJ was

540
00:27:12,747 --> 00:27:16,907
Speaker 14: fantastic last night. And the other thing another thing was

541
00:27:17,307 --> 00:27:20,907
Speaker 14: too like I remember years ago somebody said you can

542
00:27:20,947 --> 00:27:24,947
Speaker 14: watch how get an indication of gauge of where the

543
00:27:24,987 --> 00:27:28,627
Speaker 14: all Black's head are at in their physical physicality, and

544
00:27:28,627 --> 00:27:30,627
Speaker 14: now it's going to come to play, so to speak,

545
00:27:31,147 --> 00:27:34,027
Speaker 14: and play hard and man up. When if you watch

546
00:27:34,107 --> 00:27:36,467
Speaker 14: him doing the harker and you look at some of

547
00:27:36,467 --> 00:27:41,187
Speaker 14: the faces, and I looked at Sam Kaine's face last

548
00:27:41,267 --> 00:27:42,707
Speaker 14: night when he was doing the Harker, and I could

549
00:27:42,707 --> 00:27:44,787
Speaker 14: see in his eys and his face just written because

550
00:27:44,827 --> 00:27:47,747
Speaker 14: I thought, yeah, yeah, these boys they're in for it today.

551
00:27:47,827 --> 00:27:50,147
Speaker 14: They've come up for a game, and right from the

552
00:27:50,187 --> 00:27:52,987
Speaker 14: go they came out like gladiators. So there was those

553
00:27:53,027 --> 00:27:57,187
Speaker 14: sort of two points. And also I was so glad

554
00:27:57,267 --> 00:27:59,707
Speaker 14: not to see the fifty to fifty giveaway kick that

555
00:27:59,787 --> 00:28:02,827
Speaker 14: I call that stupid box kick that I'm that I

556
00:28:02,987 --> 00:28:05,147
Speaker 14: don't like either, you know, because most of the time

557
00:28:05,187 --> 00:28:07,507
Speaker 14: you're just given the ball all the way to the opposition,

558
00:28:07,547 --> 00:28:09,387
Speaker 14: you know, and letting have run it.

559
00:28:09,467 --> 00:28:09,627
Speaker 13: Yees.

560
00:28:09,947 --> 00:28:11,987
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look when I saw them box kick a couple

561
00:28:12,027 --> 00:28:13,587
Speaker 2: of times last night, Phil, but I thought it was

562
00:28:13,627 --> 00:28:16,507
Speaker 2: so much more accurate. I thought the the elevation on

563
00:28:16,547 --> 00:28:18,827
Speaker 2: the kicks was a lot better, the chase was a

564
00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:21,867
Speaker 2: lot better. There were very few instances last night, and yes,

565
00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:24,187
Speaker 2: they box kicked less than they have in the past.

566
00:28:24,187 --> 00:28:26,907
Speaker 2: There were very few though went up that were uncontested.

567
00:28:26,947 --> 00:28:29,667
Speaker 2: I think that's the one that frustrates us, the uncontested

568
00:28:29,707 --> 00:28:31,867
Speaker 2: box kick, because then you are just giving it back.

569
00:28:32,267 --> 00:28:34,427
Speaker 2: But I was watching the likes of Caleb Clark and

570
00:28:34,467 --> 00:28:38,827
Speaker 2: Will Jordan and Jordi Barrett contesting box kicks and I thought, okay,

571
00:28:38,867 --> 00:28:41,987
Speaker 2: that's better. You can see what they're trying to do.

572
00:28:42,027 --> 00:28:44,027
Speaker 2: And it was the elevation of the kick as well

573
00:28:44,067 --> 00:28:46,667
Speaker 2: the height that TJ was getting on them, which was

574
00:28:46,707 --> 00:28:50,907
Speaker 2: impressive too. Thanks for your call, Phil. Hello Tom, How

575
00:28:50,947 --> 00:28:51,427
Speaker 2: are you good?

576
00:28:51,467 --> 00:28:51,627
Speaker 13: Tom?

577
00:28:51,747 --> 00:28:52,067
Speaker 2: Very good?

578
00:28:52,067 --> 00:28:53,387
Speaker 16: Thanks mate, you're good good?

579
00:28:53,987 --> 00:28:54,787
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I run you.

580
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Speaker 16: David McKenzie, mister Dame mckensei facebook page.

581
00:28:57,627 --> 00:28:59,227
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know the one, mate, I know the

582
00:28:59,227 --> 00:29:02,827
Speaker 2: one you you're building. You're building building an audience like

583
00:29:02,827 --> 00:29:04,587
Speaker 2: like no other. Mate. It's a great page.

584
00:29:05,147 --> 00:29:08,307
Speaker 16: Yeah, I appreciate it. No, I really really appreciate it.

585
00:29:08,667 --> 00:29:11,707
Speaker 16: No real stoke about the game last night. You can

586
00:29:11,747 --> 00:29:15,187
Speaker 16: see the intent the boys had there, the fad, the

587
00:29:15,507 --> 00:29:20,027
Speaker 16: form for the boys to do their work. Obviously, you

588
00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:22,187
Speaker 16: could see, honestly a clear change of game plan from

589
00:29:22,307 --> 00:29:24,387
Speaker 16: last week. You saw d Matt putting the ball in

590
00:29:24,387 --> 00:29:28,827
Speaker 16: front of the forwards. Not none of this contestable in

591
00:29:28,867 --> 00:29:34,627
Speaker 16: the big with the selection on the wingers. We had

592
00:29:34,707 --> 00:29:37,347
Speaker 16: taller wingers out there as well, so when we did contest,

593
00:29:37,907 --> 00:29:40,547
Speaker 16: I think there was a bit more intent and ability

594
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Speaker 16: to do work in that sage. So no, really, please,

595
00:29:44,787 --> 00:29:48,347
Speaker 16: with the effort out there, you could just see Yeah, no,

596
00:29:48,427 --> 00:29:50,547
Speaker 16: the boys really came to playoffs night.

597
00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:54,347
Speaker 2: So yeah, I hope it cares on. You're just breaking

598
00:29:54,427 --> 00:29:55,667
Speaker 2: up a little bit, Tom, but please stay with me, Ma,

599
00:29:55,747 --> 00:29:57,427
Speaker 2: because I just want to ask you about Damien McKenzie.

600
00:29:57,547 --> 00:29:59,787
Speaker 2: Across the five tests that he's played, he's had you know,

601
00:29:59,827 --> 00:30:03,467
Speaker 2: he's been handed the five starts, you know, And I've

602
00:30:03,507 --> 00:30:04,867
Speaker 2: said that a couple of times. I really like the

603
00:30:04,867 --> 00:30:06,907
Speaker 2: fact that they've said to him, right, you've got that jersey.

604
00:30:06,907 --> 00:30:08,507
Speaker 2: They've clearly said him like you're a ound number ten

605
00:30:09,027 --> 00:30:10,947
Speaker 2: at least for half a dozen test matches, because I

606
00:30:10,947 --> 00:30:13,067
Speaker 2: think of starting the first Test against South Africa as well.

607
00:30:13,547 --> 00:30:14,947
Speaker 2: What have you made of him across the I mean,

608
00:30:14,947 --> 00:30:16,187
Speaker 2: I know you're a bit biased, but what have you

609
00:30:16,227 --> 00:30:18,307
Speaker 2: made of him across the first five tests?

610
00:30:18,627 --> 00:30:18,867
Speaker 10: Yeah?

611
00:30:18,987 --> 00:30:22,267
Speaker 16: No, it's it's obviously been. It's a work in progress

612
00:30:22,267 --> 00:30:25,027
Speaker 16: for Demac. You know, he's he's played I think he's

613
00:30:25,027 --> 00:30:27,507
Speaker 16: played nine tests now and he's won all and near

614
00:30:27,627 --> 00:30:29,387
Speaker 16: nine tests and he's won eight or something like that.

615
00:30:29,467 --> 00:30:31,707
Speaker 16: So he's had a good first of it. You know.

616
00:30:32,107 --> 00:30:35,427
Speaker 16: He obviously had that thing last week and it wasn't pretty,

617
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Speaker 16: was it?

618
00:30:35,787 --> 00:30:36,027
Speaker 1: You know?

619
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Speaker 16: But no, I think I think he's had a good

620
00:30:38,747 --> 00:30:41,107
Speaker 16: fest of it. He's looking really good last night, I

621
00:30:41,107 --> 00:30:41,627
Speaker 16: don't think.

622
00:30:42,227 --> 00:30:42,667
Speaker 5: I don't know.

623
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Speaker 16: You obviously had gained pretty well as well. But how

624
00:30:45,267 --> 00:30:47,467
Speaker 16: many times have we seen a ten go out there

625
00:30:47,987 --> 00:30:51,227
Speaker 16: and an international pressure cooker and in the wet and

626
00:30:51,347 --> 00:30:53,667
Speaker 16: the bucketing wet and put on a performance like that,

627
00:30:53,787 --> 00:30:56,267
Speaker 16: you know, six out of six kicks try as to

628
00:30:56,947 --> 00:31:02,467
Speaker 16: try pretty. It was pretty special. No, I'm stoked. I'm

629
00:31:02,467 --> 00:31:05,267
Speaker 16: stoked for Damien, stoked for the boys, and I just

630
00:31:05,347 --> 00:31:10,787
Speaker 16: wish if we can see so like that at Alice part. Okay, yeah, it'll.

631
00:31:10,587 --> 00:31:14,867
Speaker 2: Bit absolutely brilliant. Hey, so just give us the official

632
00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:16,387
Speaker 2: name of your Facebook page, mate, want to get you

633
00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:17,427
Speaker 2: some more followers?

634
00:31:17,867 --> 00:31:21,147
Speaker 16: I missed off Damien McKenzie. I've got about fifteen thousand

635
00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:25,307
Speaker 16: followers at the moment, post regularly every day and yeah,

636
00:31:25,347 --> 00:31:27,387
Speaker 16: we've got a real good, real good chet going on.

637
00:31:27,467 --> 00:31:29,627
Speaker 16: There a lot of debate what a real good rugby

638
00:31:29,667 --> 00:31:31,547
Speaker 16: talk and ban to the elite.

639
00:31:31,587 --> 00:31:34,547
Speaker 2: So join it up, love it mate, love it time.

640
00:31:34,627 --> 00:31:37,947
Speaker 2: Callbeck anytime, mate, Good to Chet you mate, always take

641
00:31:37,987 --> 00:31:40,467
Speaker 2: it easy. Myth of Damien McKenzie. Great Facebook page. Yeah,

642
00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:42,147
Speaker 2: check it out. Nineteen away from one. I've got to

643
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Speaker 2: get a breakaway Stephen, please hold there with you right after.

644
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Speaker 1: to Baby Ginsey.

649
00:31:58,267 --> 00:32:02,187
Speaker 3: I voted Parretts lovely part lovely try.

650
00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:03,907
Speaker 6: Voted for the twenty.

651
00:32:03,627 --> 00:32:06,427
Speaker 2: Two twelve forty four just one of the tries on

652
00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:08,267
Speaker 2: the first half last night, Steven, thanks for holding mate,

653
00:32:08,267 --> 00:32:08,547
Speaker 2: How are you?

654
00:32:09,867 --> 00:32:10,267
Speaker 10: Yeah good?

655
00:32:10,267 --> 00:32:12,627
Speaker 17: Thank you Pony, just the observation.

656
00:32:12,787 --> 00:32:13,107
Speaker 1: Really.

657
00:32:13,227 --> 00:32:16,467
Speaker 17: I got home in time to watch the game on Telly,

658
00:32:16,507 --> 00:32:19,827
Speaker 17: which was a plan and I live in Auckland. It

659
00:32:19,907 --> 00:32:24,067
Speaker 17: was absolutely freezing. It was also it was pouring down,

660
00:32:24,227 --> 00:32:29,067
Speaker 17: I mean really heavy rain, and I watched I watched

661
00:32:29,107 --> 00:32:33,387
Speaker 17: the players come onto the field and they got soaked

662
00:32:33,427 --> 00:32:36,347
Speaker 17: from the time they walked out of the tunnel to

663
00:32:36,387 --> 00:32:39,907
Speaker 17: the time that they ended the Harker was probably about

664
00:32:39,907 --> 00:32:44,947
Speaker 17: six or seven minutes, and all the reserves were absolutely

665
00:32:45,067 --> 00:32:48,547
Speaker 17: drenched and it was freezing cold. So they then they

666
00:32:48,587 --> 00:32:50,627
Speaker 17: went and sat down and had a jacket put on

667
00:32:50,667 --> 00:32:55,387
Speaker 17: them or a coat. But I've seen soldiers within sixty

668
00:32:55,427 --> 00:32:59,587
Speaker 17: minutes to come to hypothermia, and so there's real danger

669
00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:05,147
Speaker 17: that those guys sitting down soaked like that could actually struggle.

670
00:33:05,707 --> 00:33:09,787
Speaker 17: And you know, they would get up and have a

671
00:33:09,947 --> 00:33:13,147
Speaker 17: bit of a run, but that wouldn't do much. At halftime,

672
00:33:13,227 --> 00:33:15,867
Speaker 17: hopefully they may have been able to change for a wet,

673
00:33:15,907 --> 00:33:18,987
Speaker 17: cold jersey to These are the reserves I'm talking about,

674
00:33:19,227 --> 00:33:20,827
Speaker 17: but some of them wouldn't have got on the field

675
00:33:20,827 --> 00:33:24,627
Speaker 17: for fifty sixty minutes, and so it's potentially quite dangerous

676
00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:27,787
Speaker 17: and at zero degrees which it was last night, to

677
00:33:27,867 --> 00:33:28,587
Speaker 17: be that wet.

678
00:33:29,227 --> 00:33:31,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they give them big jackets to wear,

679
00:33:31,147 --> 00:33:33,187
Speaker 2: but I mean that's just going over the top of

680
00:33:33,227 --> 00:33:36,387
Speaker 2: wet clothing, isn't it. So yeah, and you're right, there

681
00:33:36,507 --> 00:33:40,267
Speaker 2: is a lot that goes on before the whistle blows

682
00:33:40,267 --> 00:33:42,027
Speaker 2: to start the game. You know, once we get as

683
00:33:42,027 --> 00:33:43,667
Speaker 2: you say, once we get through, they walk out. They

684
00:33:43,707 --> 00:33:46,267
Speaker 2: have the anthems, we have the hardker. So yeah, you

685
00:33:46,307 --> 00:33:49,187
Speaker 2: are six or seven minutes of standing in the pouring rain.

686
00:33:49,747 --> 00:33:51,827
Speaker 2: You wouldn't do it ordinarily, would just taven. You wouldn't

687
00:33:51,827 --> 00:33:53,747
Speaker 2: go out there and stand in the rain for six

688
00:33:53,827 --> 00:33:55,867
Speaker 2: or seven minutes and then come back inside and not

689
00:33:55,947 --> 00:33:58,427
Speaker 2: draw yourself off. So yeah, it's an interesting point you make.

690
00:33:58,587 --> 00:34:00,187
Speaker 2: They seem to go okay when they came on though.

691
00:34:01,827 --> 00:34:07,027
Speaker 17: Yeah, I agree, they always will, but potentially last night temperature,

692
00:34:07,067 --> 00:34:11,147
Speaker 17: in that extreme weather, there is an opportunity for hypothermia.

693
00:34:12,147 --> 00:34:13,827
Speaker 2: Let's hope it never happens, Stephen, But it's a good

694
00:34:13,827 --> 00:34:15,627
Speaker 2: point you make. Thanks for holding and thanks for calling mate.

695
00:34:15,667 --> 00:34:17,947
Speaker 2: Good to chat to you. The referee, I should call

696
00:34:17,987 --> 00:34:20,027
Speaker 2: him by his name rather say the referee, the Italian

697
00:34:20,067 --> 00:34:23,427
Speaker 2: Andrea Padi really good last night. The referee was brilliant,

698
00:34:23,427 --> 00:34:26,067
Speaker 2: says Garrick, only thirty two years old. I thought he

699
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:28,547
Speaker 2: had a really good game. And the only reason, you know,

700
00:34:28,667 --> 00:34:30,467
Speaker 2: normally it's when you talk about the referee that he's

701
00:34:30,467 --> 00:34:33,067
Speaker 2: had a bad game. We're only talking about him because

702
00:34:33,067 --> 00:34:34,627
Speaker 2: I thought he was very very good.

703
00:34:35,107 --> 00:34:40,147
Speaker 18: Dallas, Hi, Well, I'm glad you didn't get hypothermia, biney

704
00:34:40,187 --> 00:34:40,907
Speaker 18: and all the flu.

705
00:34:41,067 --> 00:34:41,587
Speaker 15: So that's good.

706
00:34:41,667 --> 00:34:43,347
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to think I have made unless

707
00:34:43,387 --> 00:34:45,107
Speaker 2: it's been delayed, Dallas and I and I come down

708
00:34:45,147 --> 00:34:47,067
Speaker 2: with a dose of it tomorrow. I feel okay today.

709
00:34:47,907 --> 00:34:52,427
Speaker 18: Yeah, you're found good now about this kicking versus keeping

710
00:34:52,427 --> 00:34:56,227
Speaker 18: the born hand the modern philosophy in rugby, it's a

711
00:34:56,347 --> 00:35:00,027
Speaker 18: territory game. You try and play the game and in

712
00:35:00,067 --> 00:35:03,267
Speaker 18: the opposite half. That means you kick, and you try

713
00:35:03,907 --> 00:35:06,507
Speaker 18: and you trust your defense. You kick it and then

714
00:35:06,547 --> 00:35:08,787
Speaker 18: you trusted the sense to follow up and keep them

715
00:35:08,827 --> 00:35:12,867
Speaker 18: pens on their half. And that's the traditional that's the

716
00:35:13,027 --> 00:35:16,147
Speaker 18: modern thinking. But when it comes to the all backs,

717
00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:20,507
Speaker 18: our strengths there's always been passing, running and speed of

718
00:35:20,667 --> 00:35:25,467
Speaker 18: path and speed on the outside so and being able

719
00:35:25,467 --> 00:35:28,467
Speaker 18: to score from anywhere on the field. So I'm glad

720
00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:30,187
Speaker 18: we're getting back to that philosophy.

721
00:35:30,667 --> 00:35:34,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am so. I just loved Caleb's Clark Caleb

722
00:35:34,067 --> 00:35:37,587
Speaker 2: Clark's try last night, Dallas. You know, quick, quick ball

723
00:35:37,587 --> 00:35:40,187
Speaker 2: through the hands, the last pass from Artie Savier to

724
00:35:40,227 --> 00:35:45,187
Speaker 2: Caleb Clark. Similarly the little past from TJ to Will Jordan. Yeah,

725
00:35:45,227 --> 00:35:47,827
Speaker 2: just the nature of the tries. Yes there was a

726
00:35:47,987 --> 00:35:50,267
Speaker 2: there was Artie's kind of pushover as well, but yeah,

727
00:35:50,267 --> 00:35:52,067
Speaker 2: I agree that the allbacks look at their best when

728
00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:53,467
Speaker 2: they're running with the ball in their hands, you know.

729
00:35:54,467 --> 00:35:56,387
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

730
00:35:56,707 --> 00:35:58,507
Speaker 2: Good on you dellis good to chat mate, and thanks

731
00:35:58,507 --> 00:36:01,547
Speaker 2: for inquiring about my health too. I was sidelined last night.

732
00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:04,507
Speaker 2: I have to say it actually stopped raining a round

733
00:36:04,547 --> 00:36:07,587
Speaker 2: about kickoff. I had the hood up. That's that was

734
00:36:07,587 --> 00:36:10,787
Speaker 2: my indicator. Hit the hood up for about ten to

735
00:36:10,827 --> 00:36:13,907
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes and then it was okay after that. And anyway,

736
00:36:13,987 --> 00:36:15,827
Speaker 2: she wasn't that cold Richard high.

737
00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:20,027
Speaker 19: Mate, Yeah, goodness, piny Hale. Of course, awesome game last night.

738
00:36:20,227 --> 00:36:23,507
Speaker 19: The All Blacks were absolutely on fire. PJ just had

739
00:36:23,547 --> 00:36:26,587
Speaker 19: a great performance. Yes, so great to see. But I

740
00:36:26,627 --> 00:36:28,907
Speaker 19: just wanted to talk a little bit about the record

741
00:36:28,907 --> 00:36:30,547
Speaker 19: of Eden Park and call out a bit of an

742
00:36:30,587 --> 00:36:34,267
Speaker 19: unsung here. I reckon think about the conditions last night

743
00:36:34,907 --> 00:36:37,147
Speaker 19: and as the scrums were packed down Engli, it wasn't

744
00:36:37,147 --> 00:36:40,067
Speaker 19: a later grass that was shifting underfoot. The pace of

745
00:36:40,147 --> 00:36:42,507
Speaker 19: the game. All the handing was a bit slippery, but

746
00:36:42,587 --> 00:36:44,987
Speaker 19: nobody slipped over. So whatever those guys are doing to

747
00:36:45,027 --> 00:36:47,067
Speaker 19: that turf, I reckon there's a lot to do with

748
00:36:47,187 --> 00:36:50,227
Speaker 19: helping the All Blacks play on home ground. There a

749
00:36:50,347 --> 00:36:52,267
Speaker 19: fastyle of rugby and I think it called out to

750
00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:54,987
Speaker 19: the turf managers there. I think it was the ground

751
00:36:55,027 --> 00:36:57,027
Speaker 19: was as much of a star as a rugby great point.

752
00:36:57,107 --> 00:36:59,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with so much rain, Richard, you know, and

753
00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:01,787
Speaker 2: I know they've got their scientific ways of making sure

754
00:37:01,787 --> 00:37:03,787
Speaker 2: that it stays firm, but yeah, there were a couple

755
00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:07,107
Speaker 2: of reset scrums, but nothing really. You're right. I remember

756
00:37:07,107 --> 00:37:09,787
Speaker 2: walking cross afterwards to do the postmatch interviews and looking

757
00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:11,627
Speaker 2: down at the turf and you think, well, for eighty

758
00:37:11,667 --> 00:37:13,747
Speaker 2: minutes a rug beyond that, having poured down with rain

759
00:37:13,787 --> 00:37:16,147
Speaker 2: for most of the day up until kickoff, you'd expected

760
00:37:16,147 --> 00:37:17,707
Speaker 2: to be cut up a bit, but you're right it wasn't.

761
00:37:18,547 --> 00:37:20,987
Speaker 19: Yeah, and they had a fifty range fifty game streak.

762
00:37:21,027 --> 00:37:23,387
Speaker 19: There's something in that ground and I put it down

763
00:37:23,427 --> 00:37:24,867
Speaker 19: to no sport that tooth manager.

764
00:37:24,907 --> 00:37:25,667
Speaker 20: I can't remember his name.

765
00:37:25,667 --> 00:37:28,747
Speaker 19: I think it's Blair maybe, but yeah, taheaps off so

766
00:37:28,947 --> 00:37:31,227
Speaker 19: but awesome, awesome game abs and keep that up and

767
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:32,587
Speaker 19: looking forward to the box.

768
00:37:32,747 --> 00:37:35,027
Speaker 2: Ah me too, Richard, thanks mate, looking forward to the

769
00:37:35,067 --> 00:37:38,907
Speaker 2: box more than the box kick, but if it's contested,

770
00:37:38,947 --> 00:37:41,347
Speaker 2: we're fine with it. If it's contested, we're fine. I

771
00:37:41,627 --> 00:37:44,587
Speaker 2: had had a text about that before by Dave. Dave,

772
00:37:44,627 --> 00:37:48,067
Speaker 2: the box kick Jason is one of the best attacking

773
00:37:48,067 --> 00:37:50,267
Speaker 2: weapons in rugby, has been for over one hundred years.

774
00:37:50,387 --> 00:37:52,587
Speaker 2: But to work, it needs a pack of forwards on

775
00:37:52,627 --> 00:37:55,107
Speaker 2: their feet bound driving forward to get the whole team

776
00:37:55,107 --> 00:37:58,547
Speaker 2: on the front foot. Dave, that's what we had last night.

777
00:37:59,227 --> 00:38:01,867
Speaker 2: What's the old cliche It all starts up front and

778
00:38:02,187 --> 00:38:05,547
Speaker 2: the All Blacks establishing dominance up front last night was

779
00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:07,987
Speaker 2: a huge part of set in the platform for TJ

780
00:38:08,227 --> 00:38:11,027
Speaker 2: and for Damien McKenzie to do what they did. They

781
00:38:11,027 --> 00:38:14,227
Speaker 2: had impressive games, largely due to the guys in the

782
00:38:14,227 --> 00:38:16,627
Speaker 2: lower number jerseys nine to one used talks their b

783
00:38:16,707 --> 00:38:17,027
Speaker 2: back in a.

784
00:38:17,027 --> 00:38:21,427
Speaker 1: Mote sue from the track fields and the court on

785
00:38:21,547 --> 00:38:25,867
Speaker 1: your homeless sport, we sport where's Jason Vine and used talks.

786
00:38:25,707 --> 00:38:30,107
Speaker 3: MBU mackenzie has it now? Mackenzie pot part on the

787
00:38:30,147 --> 00:38:35,747
Speaker 3: their pan Zhipridy sair draw perss Pana popa try with Horner.

788
00:38:35,987 --> 00:38:38,427
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that one from Caleb Clark six to one,

789
00:38:38,427 --> 00:38:40,387
Speaker 2: We'll open the lines again after one o'clock. Couldn't get

790
00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:42,267
Speaker 2: everybody on the air, but we'll try again after one.

791
00:38:42,707 --> 00:38:46,027
Speaker 2: Scott Robertson has had his media conference this morning as well.

792
00:38:46,427 --> 00:38:48,787
Speaker 2: We'll play some of the pertinent bits of that, mainly

793
00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:51,907
Speaker 2: looking forward actually to what lies next for the All

794
00:38:51,907 --> 00:38:55,067
Speaker 2: Black Speaking of which Jamie says, Jason good performance. I

795
00:38:55,107 --> 00:38:58,107
Speaker 2: see the All Blacks splitting the games in South Africa

796
00:38:58,147 --> 00:39:01,067
Speaker 2: for the following reasons. Test one, Joe Berg hard and

797
00:39:01,147 --> 00:39:03,947
Speaker 2: fast track, the All Blacks first Test since the World

798
00:39:03,947 --> 00:39:07,467
Speaker 2: Cup final Alice Park will be a cauldron. Motivation will

799
00:39:07,507 --> 00:39:09,267
Speaker 2: be off the scale, So the All Blacks to win

800
00:39:09,307 --> 00:39:12,667
Speaker 2: that one test too, says Jamie. And Newland's bounced back

801
00:39:13,187 --> 00:39:15,307
Speaker 2: from the box and reaction to what happens at Ellis

802
00:39:15,307 --> 00:39:18,267
Speaker 2: Park softer ground and conditions. Jamie, I reckon if they

803
00:39:18,267 --> 00:39:21,107
Speaker 2: come home with a win and a loss. While they'd

804
00:39:21,147 --> 00:39:23,627
Speaker 2: never say it, I think they'll be relatively satisfied with that.

805
00:39:24,027 --> 00:39:27,227
Speaker 2: You look at how South Africa are playing at the moment.

806
00:39:27,587 --> 00:39:30,787
Speaker 2: Again last night they were I mean it wasn't as

807
00:39:30,787 --> 00:39:34,147
Speaker 2: convincing as the first Test against Australia, but untroubled really

808
00:39:34,587 --> 00:39:37,387
Speaker 2: South Africa last night. They'll go back to the Republic

809
00:39:37,467 --> 00:39:40,827
Speaker 2: and they are the best team going around at the moment.

810
00:39:41,147 --> 00:39:43,947
Speaker 2: It'll be a great gauge on where the All Blacks

811
00:39:43,947 --> 00:39:46,787
Speaker 2: actually are. They absolutely needed last night though, before they

812
00:39:46,827 --> 00:39:49,587
Speaker 2: hop on that plane, Tom says, Jason, what do you

813
00:39:49,627 --> 00:39:53,187
Speaker 2: think of the talaya mackenzie sub called Damien was on fire?

814
00:39:53,187 --> 00:39:55,627
Speaker 2: I thought it seemed a bit nuts to subham Tom.

815
00:39:55,747 --> 00:39:58,707
Speaker 2: I wonder whether they just wanted to have a look

816
00:39:58,987 --> 00:40:06,227
Speaker 2: at Will Jordan at fallback, because when Damien McKenzie went off,

817
00:40:06,387 --> 00:40:09,387
Speaker 2: Boden Barrett came into first five and Will Jordan went

818
00:40:09,427 --> 00:40:11,147
Speaker 2: back to fall back, and I just wonder whether they

819
00:40:11,187 --> 00:40:12,827
Speaker 2: wanted to have a bit of a look at that.

820
00:40:13,227 --> 00:40:16,107
Speaker 2: Not that Scott Robertson really needs to check out Will

821
00:40:16,187 --> 00:40:19,507
Speaker 2: Jordan at fullback. He knows all about him from his

822
00:40:19,627 --> 00:40:22,667
Speaker 2: days at the Crusaders. That's about the only position Razor

823
00:40:22,707 --> 00:40:25,347
Speaker 2: rev who played Will Jordan and at the Crusaders, if ever,

824
00:40:25,467 --> 00:40:27,267
Speaker 2: rarely have ever thought that I can remember I played

825
00:40:27,307 --> 00:40:29,387
Speaker 2: him on the wing, so he knows all about him.

826
00:40:29,387 --> 00:40:30,707
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just wonder whether they want to have

827
00:40:30,747 --> 00:40:34,547
Speaker 2: a look at that at Will Jordan at fullback. I

828
00:40:34,587 --> 00:40:37,347
Speaker 2: think it's Damian McKenzie's best Test of the year. His

829
00:40:37,467 --> 00:40:40,147
Speaker 2: kicking was good. Did you notice that the shot clock Now,

830
00:40:40,227 --> 00:40:42,747
Speaker 2: I thought the shot clock conversion the shot clock for

831
00:40:42,787 --> 00:40:46,627
Speaker 2: a conversion was ninety seconds, and I've checked a bit

832
00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:49,787
Speaker 2: this morning and it has always been ninety seconds up

833
00:40:49,907 --> 00:40:53,787
Speaker 2: until the Rugby Championship. It's ninety seconds for a conversion

834
00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:56,387
Speaker 2: and sixty seconds for a penalty. Last night it was

835
00:40:56,427 --> 00:40:58,827
Speaker 2: sixty seconds for a conversion as well, which I've since

836
00:40:58,867 --> 00:41:02,347
Speaker 2: found out is actually the rule now in the Rugby Championship.

837
00:41:03,267 --> 00:41:06,067
Speaker 2: And yet Dee Mack, who has been troubled by the

838
00:41:06,107 --> 00:41:10,347
Speaker 2: shop clock in the past in Dunedin when it ran

839
00:41:10,387 --> 00:41:12,987
Speaker 2: out on him, kicked six from six and didn't seem

840
00:41:13,107 --> 00:41:16,107
Speaker 2: unduly concerned. Really the clock was counting down on him,

841
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:19,387
Speaker 2: but he nailed them all News next it won them

842
00:41:19,427 --> 00:41:20,347
Speaker 2: back with more.

843
00:41:21,347 --> 00:41:24,267
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest fours issues

844
00:41:24,347 --> 00:41:28,187
Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on regens Ford with

845
00:41:28,427 --> 00:41:30,347
Speaker 1: Jason Vane on your.

846
00:41:30,267 --> 00:41:35,307
Speaker 2: Home of Sport News Talk one O seven. Welcome on, all,

847
00:41:35,307 --> 00:41:37,347
Speaker 2: Welcome back as the case may be. Just keeping eyes

848
00:41:37,387 --> 00:41:42,067
Speaker 2: on Illinois. The latest IndyCar race is back underway with

849
00:41:42,227 --> 00:41:44,627
Speaker 2: seven laps to go. They've they've had a couple of

850
00:41:44,627 --> 00:41:48,027
Speaker 2: crashes which have delayed things, but they're back racing now.

851
00:41:48,107 --> 00:41:52,227
Speaker 2: Scott McLaughlin is second behind Joseph Newgarden. We'll keep eyes

852
00:41:52,267 --> 00:41:56,147
Speaker 2: on the last now six laps to let you out

853
00:41:56,147 --> 00:41:58,387
Speaker 2: how it all plays outs and oval track race this one.

854
00:41:58,467 --> 00:42:02,627
Speaker 2: McLoughlin's second with six laps to go. I want to

855
00:42:02,627 --> 00:42:05,867
Speaker 2: get to Perth this hour as well. UFC three oh

856
00:42:06,027 --> 00:42:11,547
Speaker 2: five Israel Ardissagna, Kai, Cara France and Dan Hooker all

857
00:42:11,587 --> 00:42:15,467
Speaker 2: on the card. Ravender Hunia out of Sky Sports UFC

858
00:42:15,627 --> 00:42:19,387
Speaker 2: on Sky is there going to build that build that

859
00:42:19,427 --> 00:42:22,147
Speaker 2: picture for us? What sort of fights are we expecting

860
00:42:22,187 --> 00:42:24,347
Speaker 2: from these three this afternoon. James mcconey as well this

861
00:42:24,507 --> 00:42:27,627
Speaker 2: our he's over in the UK. I think he's going

862
00:42:27,667 --> 00:42:30,547
Speaker 2: to see Ben Wayne tomorrow. He was going to go

863
00:42:30,587 --> 00:42:33,507
Speaker 2: and see Chris Wood today at Forest but I'm not

864
00:42:33,507 --> 00:42:35,627
Speaker 2: sure whether that happened. Maybe I'll ask him when we

865
00:42:35,627 --> 00:42:39,827
Speaker 2: get him on your causing correspondence. Continue to be welcome

866
00:42:39,867 --> 00:42:41,267
Speaker 2: to We'll stay with the rugby for a bit because

867
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:43,067
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of texts I want to get to.

868
00:42:43,147 --> 00:42:44,507
Speaker 2: A couple of calls we couldn't get on the year.

869
00:42:44,587 --> 00:42:46,987
Speaker 2: Last hour oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty to

870
00:42:47,027 --> 00:42:49,107
Speaker 2: come in on the rugby forty take your.

871
00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:50,627
Speaker 3: Kick over the top end of the end goal. No

872
00:42:50,707 --> 00:42:54,467
Speaker 3: one's tone for Gentina forsting the Endal damien a Cantina

873
00:42:54,587 --> 00:42:57,667
Speaker 3: try lovely bounce for the All Blacks number ten.

874
00:42:57,827 --> 00:42:59,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, bit of innovation for the first try last night,

875
00:42:59,947 --> 00:43:01,787
Speaker 2: little kick over the top. There was one earlier as

876
00:43:01,827 --> 00:43:05,307
Speaker 2: well that that Artie Savier grabbed. Did you see Ardie

877
00:43:05,347 --> 00:43:08,987
Speaker 2: Savia bump that off, not once but twice? Just the

878
00:43:09,147 --> 00:43:12,947
Speaker 2: absolute boomfa. He had the balls down in the as

879
00:43:12,947 --> 00:43:15,427
Speaker 2: you watch on TV, the far side in the right

880
00:43:15,467 --> 00:43:17,787
Speaker 2: wing quarter, and he caught it and just went into

881
00:43:17,827 --> 00:43:20,627
Speaker 2: that bloke And then the guy got big up again

882
00:43:20,627 --> 00:43:22,907
Speaker 2: and Artie ran into him again. It was like a

883
00:43:22,947 --> 00:43:25,467
Speaker 2: game of scrag or something in the school yard.

884
00:43:26,547 --> 00:43:26,747
Speaker 6: Yeah.

885
00:43:26,827 --> 00:43:30,787
Speaker 2: Terrific again from Ardie sav last night, he said, or

886
00:43:30,787 --> 00:43:34,707
Speaker 2: actually to Mighty William said afterwards, Ardie demanded physicality from us,

887
00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:39,587
Speaker 2: and the best way to demand physicality is to display physicality,

888
00:43:39,587 --> 00:43:42,587
Speaker 2: I would have thought, and that's exactly what Ardie Savier

889
00:43:42,667 --> 00:43:46,867
Speaker 2: did last night. From Jules and almost Era free All

890
00:43:46,907 --> 00:43:49,707
Speaker 2: Blacks as an animal no other team can live with scrum, power,

891
00:43:49,787 --> 00:43:53,307
Speaker 2: line out, accuracy, physical dominance, handling and kicking precision. What

892
00:43:53,347 --> 00:43:56,827
Speaker 2: more can a fan ask for? It's a very good question, Jieles.

893
00:43:56,867 --> 00:43:58,667
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we could ask for much more after

894
00:43:58,707 --> 00:44:02,347
Speaker 2: the first half last night. Hello Craig, how's it going good?

895
00:44:02,347 --> 00:44:02,667
Speaker 2: Thank you?

896
00:44:03,787 --> 00:44:06,307
Speaker 15: It was a good game last night. I was kine

897
00:44:06,507 --> 00:44:09,107
Speaker 15: divide it because my girlfriend's unerteining, so I kind of

898
00:44:09,187 --> 00:44:11,147
Speaker 15: have to. I have to say, I have to sit

899
00:44:11,227 --> 00:44:12,107
Speaker 15: in the middle somewhere.

900
00:44:12,547 --> 00:44:14,147
Speaker 2: And was she after last week and she would have

901
00:44:14,187 --> 00:44:15,347
Speaker 2: been placed after last week?

902
00:44:16,107 --> 00:44:16,507
Speaker 15: Oh?

903
00:44:16,507 --> 00:44:16,787
Speaker 5: She was?

904
00:44:16,827 --> 00:44:18,227
Speaker 15: And then this week it's like, you've got to we

905
00:44:18,267 --> 00:44:20,427
Speaker 15: walked the fine line between rubbing it in the face

906
00:44:20,627 --> 00:44:23,427
Speaker 15: and just gain. I feel so sorry for you.

907
00:44:25,427 --> 00:44:27,307
Speaker 2: Ah, you're a very good peacemaker at your place by

908
00:44:27,347 --> 00:44:27,827
Speaker 2: this out of it.

909
00:44:28,747 --> 00:44:30,707
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, it's like it's at the it's just a

910
00:44:30,747 --> 00:44:32,267
Speaker 15: game for one week, whereas youve got to live with

911
00:44:32,307 --> 00:44:33,627
Speaker 15: the other person for a while, so you have to

912
00:44:33,747 --> 00:44:35,627
Speaker 15: you have to toss up the two of them. I

913
00:44:35,667 --> 00:44:39,387
Speaker 15: get it, man, question I've got there's three questions, like,

914
00:44:39,507 --> 00:44:41,467
Speaker 15: well two questions, well three in it. What I couldn't

915
00:44:41,467 --> 00:44:43,227
Speaker 15: figure out was one was why do they have it

916
00:44:43,387 --> 00:44:46,147
Speaker 15: only a two game when it's like the other guys

917
00:44:46,147 --> 00:44:47,907
Speaker 15: won last week and we won this week, so then

918
00:44:47,947 --> 00:44:50,387
Speaker 15: it's a draw. So why don't they have like a

919
00:44:50,507 --> 00:44:51,947
Speaker 15: three one where you can basically end up with a

920
00:44:51,987 --> 00:44:53,667
Speaker 15: winner or don't they do that nowadays?

921
00:44:53,667 --> 00:44:53,787
Speaker 20: Oh?

922
00:44:53,867 --> 00:44:56,427
Speaker 2: Great, great question. I'm sure they would love to. It's

923
00:44:56,547 --> 00:44:58,547
Speaker 2: just the calendar, really, Craig. I think it's just fitting

924
00:44:58,547 --> 00:45:00,507
Speaker 2: them all in. You know, if they had one more

925
00:45:00,547 --> 00:45:02,507
Speaker 2: test then they'd only have one week between going to

926
00:45:02,547 --> 00:45:05,667
Speaker 2: South Africa. It's really just a it's just a calendar thing, really, mate.

927
00:45:05,667 --> 00:45:07,867
Speaker 2: But I think you're right me. Imagine a designer be awesome.

928
00:45:08,907 --> 00:45:09,147
Speaker 5: Yeah.

929
00:45:09,147 --> 00:45:11,627
Speaker 15: Well, I mean it's just like I reckon if if

930
00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:13,267
Speaker 15: it wasn't pouring down of the rate and what probably

931
00:45:13,267 --> 00:45:14,907
Speaker 15: would have been a tider game, I imagine. I think

932
00:45:14,907 --> 00:45:16,747
Speaker 15: the actually team guys are struggling little.

933
00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:17,227
Speaker 5: Bit with wetball.

934
00:45:17,267 --> 00:45:19,707
Speaker 15: Where are we probably with our conditions are probably a

935
00:45:19,707 --> 00:45:21,507
Speaker 15: little bit used to playing that sort of conditions really

936
00:45:21,587 --> 00:45:23,187
Speaker 15: during NBC and all that sort of stuff.

937
00:45:23,267 --> 00:45:25,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, bang, Scott Robinson s afterwards, the weater the better.

938
00:45:27,027 --> 00:45:29,547
Speaker 15: Yeah. And the other question I've got is I got

939
00:45:29,667 --> 00:45:31,987
Speaker 15: I got asked this question by one of your friends

940
00:45:32,107 --> 00:45:35,347
Speaker 15: while last week what is there, Like the double standard

941
00:45:35,347 --> 00:45:37,947
Speaker 15: with the orbitis as far as they can do the

942
00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:40,187
Speaker 15: hucker and run your finger across the throat, but when

943
00:45:40,187 --> 00:45:42,547
Speaker 15: other individual players do it, the other players going off field,

944
00:45:42,547 --> 00:45:44,987
Speaker 15: they get sanctioned about it. What makes the hucker so

945
00:45:45,067 --> 00:45:46,787
Speaker 15: special that they can get away with that sort of stuff?

946
00:45:47,067 --> 00:45:49,427
Speaker 2: Another good question? I think what they'd tell you is

947
00:45:49,427 --> 00:45:51,907
Speaker 2: that is that because the action in the hucker, as

948
00:45:51,907 --> 00:45:54,587
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, is the drawing of the of

949
00:45:54,587 --> 00:45:56,547
Speaker 2: the thumb across what's supposed to be the sort of

950
00:45:56,547 --> 00:45:58,827
Speaker 2: the upper chest area.

951
00:45:58,907 --> 00:45:59,067
Speaker 1: You know.

952
00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:01,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and I know, Craig, I know what you're

953
00:46:01,627 --> 00:46:02,827
Speaker 2: going to say and what people say.

954
00:46:02,947 --> 00:46:03,587
Speaker 5: Across the throat.

955
00:46:03,667 --> 00:46:05,987
Speaker 15: Yeah, but it's like, well, why can some guys get

956
00:46:05,987 --> 00:46:07,667
Speaker 15: told off about when they did in an NPC and

957
00:46:07,747 --> 00:46:09,707
Speaker 15: various other things. But yeah, if you do in the

958
00:46:09,707 --> 00:46:11,467
Speaker 15: hockey you get away with. This's like, well, that's kind

959
00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:13,467
Speaker 15: of a little bit of a double standard, really, I suppose.

960
00:46:13,507 --> 00:46:17,027
Speaker 15: But the other thing I can't understand is her She's

961
00:46:17,067 --> 00:46:19,347
Speaker 15: and a lot of her friends being Christian people, they

962
00:46:19,387 --> 00:46:21,307
Speaker 15: get a little bit upset when people start talking about

963
00:46:21,347 --> 00:46:23,067
Speaker 15: the Guarden of eating. It's like, well, that's a Bible

964
00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:25,187
Speaker 15: rips reference, why is it being used for that? They

965
00:46:25,187 --> 00:46:27,547
Speaker 15: get a little bit annoyed and sort of say, oh,

966
00:46:27,587 --> 00:46:28,907
Speaker 15: let's blessed for me. I sort of stay out of

967
00:46:28,947 --> 00:46:29,867
Speaker 15: him and go in the other room and go I

968
00:46:29,907 --> 00:46:32,387
Speaker 15: don't want to get into that one, Craig.

969
00:46:32,427 --> 00:46:33,987
Speaker 2: I'm not going to either. I'm going to come into

970
00:46:34,027 --> 00:46:35,787
Speaker 2: the other room with you. But let's agu and sitting

971
00:46:35,827 --> 00:46:38,387
Speaker 2: there we can talk rugby. Yeah, I look, I think

972
00:46:38,467 --> 00:46:41,907
Speaker 2: nicknames are fairly common, and yeah, I don't think there's

973
00:46:41,947 --> 00:46:45,187
Speaker 2: any any intent to blaspheme in that way. I'm glad

974
00:46:45,227 --> 00:46:48,187
Speaker 2: it was a peaceful weekend in your house mate. You've

975
00:46:48,227 --> 00:46:51,587
Speaker 2: split the series with you and your girlfriend, and it's

976
00:46:51,627 --> 00:46:55,067
Speaker 2: hope that peace reigns in your place for the rest

977
00:46:55,067 --> 00:46:57,227
Speaker 2: of the weekend. Good to chat to your mate. Hello, Elizabeth.

978
00:46:59,707 --> 00:47:01,707
Speaker 21: I'm a bit of a noldie. But wasn't that Bill

979
00:47:01,867 --> 00:47:05,827
Speaker 21: Freeman who said the ball is always faster than the man? Yes,

980
00:47:06,467 --> 00:47:08,907
Speaker 21: and I think on the eve of going to South Africa,

981
00:47:08,947 --> 00:47:11,907
Speaker 21: we should remember that, no brute force, just keep passing it.

982
00:47:11,907 --> 00:47:14,827
Speaker 21: We've got the skill, we've got the backs, we've got

983
00:47:15,347 --> 00:47:18,467
Speaker 21: the speed, and I just think keep passing it. That's

984
00:47:18,507 --> 00:47:19,987
Speaker 21: what we did last night in the first half and

985
00:47:20,027 --> 00:47:20,347
Speaker 21: we won.

986
00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:24,427
Speaker 2: Good strategy, Elizabeth. Yeah, and look, it sounds so simple,

987
00:47:24,467 --> 00:47:26,507
Speaker 2: doesn't it. And you're so right. The ball is always

988
00:47:26,547 --> 00:47:28,467
Speaker 2: faster than the man. So if you can get the

989
00:47:28,507 --> 00:47:30,987
Speaker 2: ball through the hands and you got one more guy

990
00:47:30,987 --> 00:47:33,027
Speaker 2: on the outside, then it's always going to hopefully pay

991
00:47:33,027 --> 00:47:37,227
Speaker 2: dividends for you. I guess the counterpoint is being allowed

992
00:47:37,227 --> 00:47:39,507
Speaker 2: to do that when defenses are right up in your face.

993
00:47:40,067 --> 00:47:42,547
Speaker 2: But where these guys are professionals, it's up to them

994
00:47:42,587 --> 00:47:44,947
Speaker 2: to work out how to beat that. And it's a

995
00:47:44,947 --> 00:47:47,347
Speaker 2: great strategy, which I'm sure a lot of all Blacks

996
00:47:47,387 --> 00:47:48,707
Speaker 2: fans will be big fans of.

997
00:47:49,547 --> 00:47:51,347
Speaker 21: I should pass it on to Scott Roberts.

998
00:47:51,147 --> 00:47:54,147
Speaker 2: Maybe you should. I think you should. Yes, I think

999
00:47:54,147 --> 00:47:56,707
Speaker 2: he look knowing Scott robertson a little bit and having

1000
00:47:56,747 --> 00:47:58,467
Speaker 2: dealt with them, he would probably be quite open to

1001
00:47:58,507 --> 00:47:59,107
Speaker 2: your suggestion.

1002
00:48:00,507 --> 00:48:01,587
Speaker 22: Okay, thank you.

1003
00:48:01,507 --> 00:48:02,947
Speaker 2: Thanks Elizabeth. Great to chat to you.

1004
00:48:03,227 --> 00:48:03,427
Speaker 13: Jack.

1005
00:48:03,467 --> 00:48:05,227
Speaker 11: How are you, mateyllo?

1006
00:48:05,307 --> 00:48:08,267
Speaker 23: Plenty very good and well into absolutely bucketing down.

1007
00:48:08,307 --> 00:48:10,867
Speaker 2: But yeah, my wife, yeah, my wife. My wife sent

1008
00:48:10,907 --> 00:48:12,347
Speaker 2: me a text saying that team I about to start

1009
00:48:12,387 --> 00:48:13,627
Speaker 2: up here in Aucklam made all though it was pretty

1010
00:48:13,627 --> 00:48:14,307
Speaker 2: wet here as well.

1011
00:48:15,227 --> 00:48:17,627
Speaker 23: That is absolutely harndusly. I mean, I enjoyed the game

1012
00:48:17,667 --> 00:48:19,107
Speaker 23: last night, but I had more of a question from

1013
00:48:19,147 --> 00:48:21,347
Speaker 23: someone who was born in the nineties. They made the

1014
00:48:21,387 --> 00:48:24,787
Speaker 23: comment yesterday in the commentary that in ninety eight we'd

1015
00:48:24,827 --> 00:48:27,787
Speaker 23: never won a Train Nations game. At the time, we

1016
00:48:27,867 --> 00:48:31,467
Speaker 23: lost five in a row, and I was just interested.

1017
00:48:31,627 --> 00:48:33,507
Speaker 23: I mean, if you can remember nineteen ninety eight what

1018
00:48:33,627 --> 00:48:36,947
Speaker 23: that was like. Having never actually experienced something even remotely

1019
00:48:36,947 --> 00:48:38,227
Speaker 23: close to that ninety.

1020
00:48:37,987 --> 00:48:40,747
Speaker 2: Eight, I do remember ninety eight, Jack very well. Yeah,

1021
00:48:40,827 --> 00:48:43,227
Speaker 2: ninety six and ninety seven, the All Blacks were dominant.

1022
00:48:43,547 --> 00:48:46,787
Speaker 2: They were a dominant rugby team across. That was when

1023
00:48:46,827 --> 00:48:50,547
Speaker 2: professionalism started, the Try Nation started. We beat South Africa,

1024
00:48:50,667 --> 00:48:55,107
Speaker 2: we beat Australia nineteen ninety eight, five straight losses. It

1025
00:48:55,187 --> 00:48:59,267
Speaker 2: was mate, it was. It was really challenging for All

1026
00:48:59,267 --> 00:49:02,787
Speaker 2: Blacks players, I'm sure, but for fans and you kept

1027
00:49:02,787 --> 00:49:05,027
Speaker 2: on just thinking, okay, well we'll win the next one,

1028
00:49:05,187 --> 00:49:07,947
Speaker 2: we'll win the next one. We didn't. And Tane Randall

1029
00:49:07,947 --> 00:49:09,707
Speaker 2: was the captain then, and I know it was a

1030
00:49:09,747 --> 00:49:12,547
Speaker 2: horrendous time for him as captain of a team that

1031
00:49:12,627 --> 00:49:14,827
Speaker 2: lost five straight Test matches.

1032
00:49:16,187 --> 00:49:18,667
Speaker 23: Was there more hysteria than there would be today, or

1033
00:49:18,707 --> 00:49:21,627
Speaker 23: less hysteria or just a different kind because it's pretty

1034
00:49:21,627 --> 00:49:22,707
Speaker 23: self phone pre that stuff.

1035
00:49:22,907 --> 00:49:24,707
Speaker 2: I think there was quite a bit of hysteria. I

1036
00:49:24,707 --> 00:49:29,587
Speaker 2: don't think it was quite as bad as I actually

1037
00:49:29,707 --> 00:49:32,787
Speaker 2: actually there was, because I remember after ninety nine as well,

1038
00:49:32,827 --> 00:49:35,627
Speaker 2: the Rugby World Cup in ninety nine when when France

1039
00:49:35,667 --> 00:49:39,947
Speaker 2: beat us that in that semi final. There was there

1040
00:49:39,987 --> 00:49:42,547
Speaker 2: was so much hysteria after that, and I think that

1041
00:49:42,667 --> 00:49:44,907
Speaker 2: had been building off the back of nineteen ninety eight.

1042
00:49:44,987 --> 00:49:46,987
Speaker 2: It was pretty rabid, mate, I've got to be honest.

1043
00:49:47,227 --> 00:49:49,067
Speaker 2: There was a lot of Yeah, there was a lot

1044
00:49:49,107 --> 00:49:51,747
Speaker 2: of a lot of feral behavior from all blacks fans

1045
00:49:51,747 --> 00:49:52,347
Speaker 2: around that time.

1046
00:49:52,347 --> 00:49:55,667
Speaker 23: From memory, Yeah, well, no cool fee. I was just

1047
00:49:55,707 --> 00:49:57,467
Speaker 23: curious having been born in ninety four.

1048
00:49:57,587 --> 00:50:02,787
Speaker 2: So the lost, Yeah, it does happen. Jack, Yeah, stay

1049
00:50:02,867 --> 00:50:05,027
Speaker 2: dry mate, if you can, good to chet you oh

1050
00:50:05,107 --> 00:50:07,067
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty teight text. I want

1051
00:50:07,107 --> 00:50:08,747
Speaker 2: to get to some of them. Chris says. I would

1052
00:50:08,747 --> 00:50:10,347
Speaker 2: say it will be a win and a loss in

1053
00:50:10,387 --> 00:50:12,787
Speaker 2: South Africa, but the other way round from what the

1054
00:50:12,827 --> 00:50:15,947
Speaker 2: previous Texter said, they'll win, the first one will bounce

1055
00:50:15,987 --> 00:50:19,427
Speaker 2: back in the second thanks Chris Durrance's Finally no Way

1056
00:50:19,467 --> 00:50:21,227
Speaker 2: was at zero degrees last night at Eden Park was

1057
00:50:21,267 --> 00:50:23,427
Speaker 2: a bit chilly with the rain and the strong wind.

1058
00:50:23,427 --> 00:50:25,347
Speaker 2: But the caller who suggested the players were likely to

1059
00:50:25,347 --> 00:50:28,307
Speaker 2: get hypothermia is a bit off. Not great to get

1060
00:50:28,347 --> 00:50:30,547
Speaker 2: wet and be in the wind, but the reserves had jackets.

1061
00:50:30,867 --> 00:50:32,667
Speaker 2: It was actually quite humid and nothing like playing in

1062
00:50:32,667 --> 00:50:35,947
Speaker 2: Wellington or christ Church at night in midwinter. I agree, Actually, Jared,

1063
00:50:36,147 --> 00:50:39,787
Speaker 2: it was where I was. It wasn't cold. I just

1064
00:50:39,987 --> 00:50:43,347
Speaker 2: I had a you're always talking layers. I had like

1065
00:50:43,387 --> 00:50:45,587
Speaker 2: a jersey and a jacket on and I was not

1066
00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:48,907
Speaker 2: cold at all. But then again, having said that, you

1067
00:50:48,907 --> 00:50:50,627
Speaker 2: think about those all blacks standing out there in the

1068
00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:52,787
Speaker 2: pouring rain in their plane kit because they take their

1069
00:50:52,827 --> 00:50:54,787
Speaker 2: kits off, they take their jackets off to stand there

1070
00:50:54,787 --> 00:50:57,787
Speaker 2: for the anthems and the hakka, and that kind of sinks.

1071
00:50:58,187 --> 00:50:59,787
Speaker 2: Even if you put a jacket on over the top,

1072
00:51:00,227 --> 00:51:04,307
Speaker 2: the layer next to your skin still wet. So yeah,

1073
00:51:04,347 --> 00:51:07,107
Speaker 2: but yeah, I've been a lot older than I was

1074
00:51:07,187 --> 00:51:09,667
Speaker 2: last night. I'm from Welling tonight, so that's hard. They're

1075
00:51:09,667 --> 00:51:10,627
Speaker 2: surprising Steve.

1076
00:51:11,827 --> 00:51:12,987
Speaker 24: Yeah, how's it going?

1077
00:51:13,067 --> 00:51:13,427
Speaker 25: Very good?

1078
00:51:15,707 --> 00:51:17,787
Speaker 24: I don't have any issues with the run on teams

1079
00:51:18,427 --> 00:51:21,267
Speaker 24: any troublers. I think that they're going to need to

1080
00:51:21,267 --> 00:51:25,347
Speaker 24: do something with their reserves that come to handle the

1081
00:51:25,427 --> 00:51:26,187
Speaker 24: bomb squads.

1082
00:51:27,387 --> 00:51:29,907
Speaker 2: Good point, Steve, Yeah, I mean South Africa may well,

1083
00:51:30,107 --> 00:51:32,667
Speaker 2: I've gone with seven forwards on the bench, haven't they.

1084
00:51:32,667 --> 00:51:34,627
Speaker 2: Whether they do that in these test matches remains to

1085
00:51:34,667 --> 00:51:36,427
Speaker 2: be seen. Do you think we might go to a

1086
00:51:36,467 --> 00:51:39,467
Speaker 2: six two split perhaps, Oh.

1087
00:51:39,787 --> 00:51:42,467
Speaker 24: It's not about that. I think it's about their mental

1088
00:51:42,507 --> 00:51:44,707
Speaker 24: state at the time. For the reserves that are there,

1089
00:51:45,387 --> 00:51:47,587
Speaker 24: they just need to be a lot because we didn't

1090
00:51:47,627 --> 00:51:52,027
Speaker 24: in the second half and thus weekend they didn't really

1091
00:51:52,027 --> 00:51:53,907
Speaker 24: come up to us, did they. They didn't score them

1092
00:51:53,907 --> 00:51:55,387
Speaker 24: any drive and the seven.

1093
00:51:55,227 --> 00:51:58,787
Speaker 2: All yeah, second half was seven all. I don't know

1094
00:51:58,787 --> 00:52:02,547
Speaker 2: whether that was entirely down to the changes. It's always

1095
00:52:02,587 --> 00:52:04,107
Speaker 2: going to be a bit clunky. The thing you would

1096
00:52:04,107 --> 00:52:06,267
Speaker 2: have noticed last night, Steve, they made five changes at

1097
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:09,187
Speaker 2: the same time, which is quite rare to bring to

1098
00:52:09,227 --> 00:52:11,267
Speaker 2: make five at one time. Often you see a couple

1099
00:52:11,307 --> 00:52:13,667
Speaker 2: of props come on together, or or you know, you

1100
00:52:13,747 --> 00:52:16,707
Speaker 2: might see two sometimes three. But I think that's the

1101
00:52:16,707 --> 00:52:19,307
Speaker 2: first time I've seen five changes at the same time.

1102
00:52:20,227 --> 00:52:23,907
Speaker 24: I'd love to see Tossi on too given the go Yeah, yeah,

1103
00:52:23,627 --> 00:52:25,867
Speaker 24: the other the other prop yep.

1104
00:52:25,907 --> 00:52:27,387
Speaker 2: I think I thought he was good he I think

1105
00:52:27,387 --> 00:52:30,467
Speaker 2: he's only played against Fiji from memory, probably has to

1106
00:52:30,467 --> 00:52:33,227
Speaker 2: buy this time. He was good for the Hurricanes to

1107
00:52:33,307 --> 00:52:35,827
Speaker 2: Mighty Williams. I thought stepped up well last night, Stephen.

1108
00:52:35,867 --> 00:52:37,667
Speaker 2: Not saw what you what you thought? He hasn't started

1109
00:52:37,707 --> 00:52:39,587
Speaker 2: too many test matches. I thought he was good last night.

1110
00:52:40,307 --> 00:52:42,347
Speaker 24: Oh he was awesome. He was awesome there and they're

1111
00:52:42,387 --> 00:52:46,267
Speaker 24: all pretty good actually. But yeah, they're one on squad.

1112
00:52:46,387 --> 00:52:48,307
Speaker 24: I don't think they have an issue with that. It's

1113
00:52:48,387 --> 00:52:52,667
Speaker 24: just just the the bomb squad. When they come up

1114
00:52:52,707 --> 00:52:54,187
Speaker 24: against them, it's going to be a bit different.

1115
00:52:54,307 --> 00:52:56,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, it will, Steve. The strategy will be really interesting

1116
00:52:56,787 --> 00:52:59,907
Speaker 2: to see whether they go to combat what South Africa

1117
00:52:59,907 --> 00:53:02,427
Speaker 2: will likely do. Whether they go seven to one again,

1118
00:53:02,467 --> 00:53:06,627
Speaker 2: I don't know. They might, They're they're highly likely actually

1119
00:53:06,827 --> 00:53:09,307
Speaker 2: six to two, and to combat that, maybe we go

1120
00:53:09,387 --> 00:53:12,427
Speaker 2: six to two and just put an extra big bopper

1121
00:53:12,467 --> 00:53:14,427
Speaker 2: on there. I'd really like to see Wallace the t

1122
00:53:14,547 --> 00:53:16,787
Speaker 2: T play against South Africa. I just wonder whether they

1123
00:53:16,787 --> 00:53:18,667
Speaker 2: missed the chance to give him a crack in these

1124
00:53:18,667 --> 00:53:21,827
Speaker 2: two games against Argentina. That's not to say they can't

1125
00:53:21,827 --> 00:53:24,027
Speaker 2: throw him in there. I think sam Kine was good

1126
00:53:24,027 --> 00:53:25,707
Speaker 2: to see him back out there again last night. He'll

1127
00:53:25,747 --> 00:53:29,147
Speaker 2: be a big part of the of the reserves bench,

1128
00:53:29,187 --> 00:53:34,267
Speaker 2: I think in the Republic. Yeah, but yeah, two huge

1129
00:53:34,307 --> 00:53:35,907
Speaker 2: test matches coming up. Can't wait to chat to you

1130
00:53:35,947 --> 00:53:37,707
Speaker 2: about them. A couple more texts before we get to

1131
00:53:37,747 --> 00:53:39,707
Speaker 2: a break. Pinty Congress of the AB is very impressed

1132
00:53:39,827 --> 00:53:41,987
Speaker 2: with too por Vai for the second week in a row.

1133
00:53:42,147 --> 00:53:45,747
Speaker 2: To me, I would like to see him as our

1134
00:53:45,787 --> 00:53:48,667
Speaker 2: big man at number six. He has power, speed, excellent

1135
00:53:48,667 --> 00:53:52,027
Speaker 2: handling skills and stamina to me, just a fraction short

1136
00:53:52,187 --> 00:53:54,987
Speaker 2: for an international lock. Thanks. Gonna always enjoy your text.

1137
00:53:55,387 --> 00:53:55,587
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1138
00:53:55,587 --> 00:53:58,067
Speaker 2: That point was made yesterday on the show that maybe

1139
00:53:58,107 --> 00:54:00,907
Speaker 2: to por Va he might be a six. I think

1140
00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:04,147
Speaker 2: he's enjoying himself in the second row and with the

1141
00:54:04,187 --> 00:54:09,547
Speaker 2: extra responsibility of calling lineouts. That is something that by

1142
00:54:09,547 --> 00:54:12,267
Speaker 2: the sounds of it, he works extremely hard on and

1143
00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:14,467
Speaker 2: it might seem like a small thing, but it's a

1144
00:54:14,507 --> 00:54:18,547
Speaker 2: big part of the way that set peace dominances established

1145
00:54:18,907 --> 00:54:21,427
Speaker 2: And to porv I was watching him. Actually, that's another

1146
00:54:21,467 --> 00:54:24,147
Speaker 2: thing about being sidelined. It's such a privileged position to

1147
00:54:24,227 --> 00:54:27,067
Speaker 2: see these guys and to watch too por v in

1148
00:54:27,147 --> 00:54:29,547
Speaker 2: just the way that you know he does the call

1149
00:54:30,027 --> 00:54:32,307
Speaker 2: the others all, you know, take it on board. And

1150
00:54:32,347 --> 00:54:34,227
Speaker 2: the lineouts were better last night with in fact, that

1151
00:54:34,267 --> 00:54:36,267
Speaker 2: was probably the best line out performance of the year

1152
00:54:36,867 --> 00:54:41,587
Speaker 2: by the All Blacks. Steve Mate, how are you great, Steve?

1153
00:54:41,667 --> 00:54:42,187
Speaker 2: Great things?

1154
00:54:43,267 --> 00:54:45,107
Speaker 24: Hey, just going to throw this out there, and it

1155
00:54:45,187 --> 00:54:48,187
Speaker 24: might be just my one eyed black pet con, but

1156
00:54:48,947 --> 00:54:51,347
Speaker 24: we hear a lot about the South African bomb squad

1157
00:54:51,787 --> 00:54:53,987
Speaker 24: and what they we watched, what they did like last

1158
00:54:54,067 --> 00:54:58,467
Speaker 24: night in Australia and just various other teams, and I'm

1159
00:54:58,507 --> 00:55:01,187
Speaker 24: missing something. Last year when we played that we beat

1160
00:55:01,227 --> 00:55:05,187
Speaker 24: them in South Africa. We lost one World Cup final

1161
00:55:06,187 --> 00:55:09,307
Speaker 24: the first through trade with fourteen men four down to

1162
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:13,627
Speaker 24: a lot sixty odd minutes for the game. I think

1163
00:55:13,627 --> 00:55:16,747
Speaker 24: they're very two even teams. But what we've done in

1164
00:55:16,787 --> 00:55:21,147
Speaker 24: the last eighteen months, even two years, we've nullified that

1165
00:55:21,347 --> 00:55:24,627
Speaker 24: of the squad. They don't seem to have the same

1166
00:55:24,787 --> 00:55:28,227
Speaker 24: impact on the All Blacks because of our technique and

1167
00:55:28,267 --> 00:55:31,347
Speaker 24: what would bring to the game that other teams. Do

1168
00:55:31,507 --> 00:55:34,067
Speaker 24: you know, when was the last time you saw them

1169
00:55:34,067 --> 00:55:37,627
Speaker 24: pushing the All Black pack around it did last night,

1170
00:55:37,867 --> 00:55:41,267
Speaker 24: and they hear the bomb squad, Bomb squad, bomb squad.

1171
00:55:41,627 --> 00:55:45,987
Speaker 24: But I honestly believed that we had technique and in

1172
00:55:45,987 --> 00:55:50,107
Speaker 24: the string to nullify the bomb squad had You've shown

1173
00:55:50,187 --> 00:55:53,587
Speaker 24: that several times in the last about eighteen months to

1174
00:55:53,587 --> 00:55:54,427
Speaker 24: a few years.

1175
00:55:54,707 --> 00:55:56,107
Speaker 2: Do you know what it makes me nervous? Dave as

1176
00:55:56,147 --> 00:55:58,307
Speaker 2: the game at Twicken them before the Rugby World Cup

1177
00:55:58,387 --> 00:56:00,827
Speaker 2: last year when they beat us thirty five to seven,

1178
00:56:00,907 --> 00:56:02,707
Speaker 2: And I know it might be an anomaly, it might

1179
00:56:02,747 --> 00:56:06,627
Speaker 2: be an outlier, but they monstered us that day. Let's

1180
00:56:06,947 --> 00:56:08,587
Speaker 2: so let's leave that off to one side. I think

1181
00:56:08,587 --> 00:56:11,347
Speaker 2: you're right. I think the All Blacks can compete physically

1182
00:56:11,387 --> 00:56:13,787
Speaker 2: with South Africa is going to need another step up

1183
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:17,107
Speaker 2: again from what they did last night. But I just

1184
00:56:17,147 --> 00:56:19,387
Speaker 2: can't wait. I can't wait for it.

1185
00:56:20,147 --> 00:56:22,387
Speaker 24: I've been so excited for the game because I was

1186
00:56:22,427 --> 00:56:25,387
Speaker 24: singing last night. But Lucy's are going to to They're

1187
00:56:25,387 --> 00:56:27,947
Speaker 24: going to just wipe each other out. They got called Lucy.

1188
00:56:28,387 --> 00:56:30,467
Speaker 15: We right the forwards.

1189
00:56:30,507 --> 00:56:33,747
Speaker 24: If we can nullify that that bom bottoms Quad and

1190
00:56:34,587 --> 00:56:37,667
Speaker 24: the initial board pack, we just get some parody with

1191
00:56:37,787 --> 00:56:40,587
Speaker 24: them I think our backs have got it all over there.

1192
00:56:40,587 --> 00:56:44,147
Speaker 24: It's just from the pure skill base. They've got the speed,

1193
00:56:44,427 --> 00:56:46,947
Speaker 24: the fact that we can play eighty minutes and like

1194
00:56:47,067 --> 00:56:49,507
Speaker 24: ten minutes into the game last night, the rest to

1195
00:56:50,107 --> 00:56:53,267
Speaker 24: get those water boys off the field. The game yu

1196
00:56:53,747 --> 00:56:57,067
Speaker 24: ten minutes, yea. So let's hope we've got a half

1197
00:56:57,227 --> 00:57:01,187
Speaker 24: past treat in South Africa. And as I said, NULLI

1198
00:57:01,987 --> 00:57:05,427
Speaker 24: nullify the forwards that do the type five. The Lucys

1199
00:57:05,427 --> 00:57:08,227
Speaker 24: will take care of themselves. You know, that's pretty even

1200
00:57:08,307 --> 00:57:10,427
Speaker 24: matched and it's going to be up to our backs.

1201
00:57:10,467 --> 00:57:12,067
Speaker 24: So it's going to mean TJ has got to get

1202
00:57:12,067 --> 00:57:15,707
Speaker 24: a good clean ball and Mac has got to he's

1203
00:57:15,747 --> 00:57:18,547
Speaker 24: got to really use it to the full advantage. And

1204
00:57:18,547 --> 00:57:20,947
Speaker 24: you know what else was great last night? The first

1205
00:57:20,987 --> 00:57:25,987
Speaker 24: time this season Jordy didn't listen he tackles. Now, if

1206
00:57:25,987 --> 00:57:28,187
Speaker 24: you watch the England game, he was trying to rush

1207
00:57:28,267 --> 00:57:32,227
Speaker 24: up in defense and he got hipped several times.

1208
00:57:32,267 --> 00:57:35,227
Speaker 2: Great analysis. Yeah, good analysis, Steve. I've got to move mate,

1209
00:57:35,227 --> 00:57:37,587
Speaker 2: but no, please let's talk during the South African series, mate,

1210
00:57:37,627 --> 00:57:40,147
Speaker 2: because your sound is deeply invested in it. As I am.

1211
00:57:40,427 --> 00:57:42,347
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call. One twenty three. I got to

1212
00:57:42,347 --> 00:57:44,147
Speaker 2: get across the Western Australia in a moment to talk

1213
00:57:44,187 --> 00:57:47,147
Speaker 2: to you UFC one final text from Steven Nelson up party.

1214
00:57:47,227 --> 00:57:49,907
Speaker 2: This is the last time I listened to you. Yesterday,

1215
00:57:50,187 --> 00:57:53,107
Speaker 2: six hours before kickoff. I was holding strong and you

1216
00:57:53,187 --> 00:57:55,747
Speaker 2: suggested there was nothing wrong with opening my first beer.

1217
00:57:57,067 --> 00:57:59,787
Speaker 2: But as I tend to do, says Steve, I make

1218
00:57:59,827 --> 00:58:02,467
Speaker 2: the most of my bad decisions when I'm feeling good.

1219
00:58:02,507 --> 00:58:06,947
Speaker 2: I've only just seen the second half. Oh Steve, you

1220
00:58:06,947 --> 00:58:08,987
Speaker 2: should know better than to take my advice on things

1221
00:58:09,067 --> 00:58:10,907
Speaker 2: like that. I thought that was good advice. Pining, I

1222
00:58:10,947 --> 00:58:12,867
Speaker 2: thought it was too I mean I would have if

1223
00:58:12,907 --> 00:58:13,587
Speaker 2: I wasn't working.

1224
00:58:14,587 --> 00:58:14,667
Speaker 24: Ye.

1225
00:58:14,747 --> 00:58:17,707
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure that always matters to you. I

1226
00:58:17,707 --> 00:58:20,147
Speaker 2: don't want to incriminate myself any further. Thank you very much.

1227
00:58:20,547 --> 00:58:23,027
Speaker 2: One twenty four. Let's get a breakaway across to UFC

1228
00:58:23,067 --> 00:58:23,667
Speaker 2: three oh five.

1229
00:58:23,747 --> 00:58:28,827
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1232
00:58:34,227 --> 00:58:37,067
Speaker 2: Baby one twenty six. Thanks for all your your calls

1233
00:58:37,107 --> 00:58:38,747
Speaker 2: and text on the rugby. We can circle back if

1234
00:58:38,747 --> 00:58:40,867
Speaker 2: we get the opportunity, but I need to get across

1235
00:58:40,907 --> 00:58:44,507
Speaker 2: to Western Australia where UFC three to five is on

1236
00:58:44,547 --> 00:58:48,907
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Israel Adisgna aims to become the first man

1237
00:58:48,987 --> 00:58:52,747
Speaker 2: in UFC history to be a three time middleweight champion.

1238
00:58:53,027 --> 00:58:56,467
Speaker 2: He takes on current champion Drickers dupless C and he's

1239
00:58:56,507 --> 00:58:59,907
Speaker 2: also looking to rebound from losing that belt to Sean Strickland.

1240
00:58:59,907 --> 00:59:02,627
Speaker 2: And what was a massive upset at UFC two nine

1241
00:59:02,747 --> 00:59:07,307
Speaker 2: three shipland up and guns leaps seconds.

1242
00:59:10,867 --> 00:59:12,147
Speaker 22: The sign Loren's are kick.

1243
00:59:12,027 --> 00:59:12,907
Speaker 18: To the body.

1244
00:59:17,627 --> 00:59:22,307
Speaker 2: Like we had so sick Lander, Oh my god. His

1245
00:59:22,387 --> 00:59:26,627
Speaker 2: biggest upsets in USC championship history. Elsewhere on the card

1246
00:59:26,667 --> 00:59:30,187
Speaker 2: this afternoon, flyweight Chai Cutter France up against Australian Steve

1247
00:59:30,387 --> 00:59:34,587
Speaker 2: erseg and lightweight Dan Hooker against Matteus Gamrod of France.

1248
00:59:34,987 --> 00:59:37,267
Speaker 2: You can watch UFC three oh five live on Sky

1249
00:59:37,347 --> 00:59:39,467
Speaker 2: Arena and stream it on Sky Sport Now from two

1250
00:59:39,467 --> 00:59:42,987
Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon. Let's bring a host of UFC on

1251
00:59:43,147 --> 00:59:46,587
Speaker 2: Sky Ravender Hernier, who is in Perth at the moment.

1252
00:59:47,307 --> 00:59:50,067
Speaker 2: Revender Israel told you during the week I watched some

1253
00:59:50,147 --> 00:59:52,667
Speaker 2: of your coverage. He told you that he feels like

1254
00:59:52,947 --> 00:59:56,667
Speaker 2: this is destiny for him this afternoon? Do you think

1255
00:59:57,067 --> 01:00:00,427
Speaker 2: winning a third middleweight title is his destiny?

1256
01:00:01,547 --> 01:00:01,747
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1257
01:00:01,987 --> 01:00:04,107
Speaker 22: You know, I don't believe anything he's telling me, to.

1258
01:00:04,147 --> 01:00:06,827
Speaker 26: Be honest, he has a very influential way about him.

1259
01:00:07,667 --> 01:00:12,307
Speaker 22: But no, it's been the word destiny was used.

1260
01:00:12,667 --> 01:00:14,507
Speaker 26: The way I posed the question was it's been a

1261
01:00:14,627 --> 01:00:17,787
Speaker 26: very emotional journey for him, not just fight week, but

1262
01:00:17,947 --> 01:00:19,707
Speaker 26: leading up to this fight. You know, there's been a

1263
01:00:19,747 --> 01:00:23,627
Speaker 26: lot of that rivalry between him and Dracas Duplessy about

1264
01:00:23,787 --> 01:00:26,147
Speaker 26: heritage and lineage and things. And I actually think it

1265
01:00:26,347 --> 01:00:29,587
Speaker 26: made Israel look inside himself a little bit more and

1266
01:00:29,787 --> 01:00:33,907
Speaker 26: to really concentrate on why he does things, concentrating on

1267
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:36,187
Speaker 26: those that love him as opposed that those who hate him,

1268
01:00:36,187 --> 01:00:37,867
Speaker 26: because they' sure are those out there. And I think

1269
01:00:37,867 --> 01:00:40,707
Speaker 26: he's just gotten to a point now where it feels right,

1270
01:00:40,947 --> 01:00:43,747
Speaker 26: that it feels like his purpose is back, his fire

1271
01:00:43,907 --> 01:00:45,707
Speaker 26: is back. So I think that's where that word destiny

1272
01:00:45,787 --> 01:00:46,387
Speaker 26: really came from.

1273
01:00:46,747 --> 01:00:50,067
Speaker 2: He's had an eleven month layoff, he's lost two of

1274
01:00:50,147 --> 01:00:52,187
Speaker 2: his last three fights. How do you think he's placed

1275
01:00:52,227 --> 01:00:53,467
Speaker 2: to bounce back this afternoon?

1276
01:00:54,787 --> 01:00:57,347
Speaker 26: Oh, I think he's every chance in the world. The

1277
01:00:57,427 --> 01:00:59,187
Speaker 26: thing with Israel at Desctlin here he's a little bit

1278
01:00:59,227 --> 01:01:01,667
Speaker 26: of a freak of nature where although he does have

1279
01:01:01,787 --> 01:01:04,667
Speaker 26: those two losses, he's still one of the best in

1280
01:01:04,747 --> 01:01:06,587
Speaker 26: the business, one of the best to we have do it.

1281
01:01:06,787 --> 01:01:13,107
Speaker 22: Frankly, you know, those two blemishes over a career that

1282
01:01:13,227 --> 01:01:15,707
Speaker 22: spans over six years is pretty good to be.

1283
01:01:16,027 --> 01:01:19,387
Speaker 26: To be fair on him, It's hard to come by

1284
01:01:19,387 --> 01:01:21,867
Speaker 26: an undefeated fighter in the UFC these days. I think

1285
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Speaker 26: kobieb is probably the only anomaly that I can think

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Speaker 26: of that comes to mind. And he's not around anymore.

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Speaker 26: So you know, two losses, Yeah, that will set you back.

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Speaker 26: He's he's one before, he's lost before, he's come back before.

1289
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Speaker 22: So I really feel like with that purpose that's.

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Speaker 26: In his heart right now, he's pretty much unstoppable this afternoon,

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Speaker 26: all right.

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Speaker 2: How formidable an opponent then as dric as dupless.

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Speaker 22: Oh, he's an absolute formidable force. And he's got that

1294
01:01:47,027 --> 01:01:47,947
Speaker 22: title for a reason.

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Speaker 26: And of course he won that title from Sean Strickland,

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01:01:50,987 --> 01:01:52,787
Speaker 26: who beat Israel A Deaks on your last year in

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Speaker 26: Sydney in September.

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Speaker 22: And it's because he.

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Speaker 26: Has that come forward, he has that brute strength and

1300
01:01:57,067 --> 01:01:58,867
Speaker 26: he has that come forward, he will not go away.

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Speaker 26: And that that is what Israel adesk on your I'm

1302
01:02:01,547 --> 01:02:05,067
Speaker 26: guessing we'll be looking out for today. Israel adaks on

1303
01:02:05,147 --> 01:02:07,547
Speaker 26: your style or fights to on the outside, to use

1304
01:02:07,587 --> 01:02:09,987
Speaker 26: his range and to use that range well, whereas Drickis

1305
01:02:10,067 --> 01:02:12,587
Speaker 26: Duplessy likes to shut down that range, bully himself and

1306
01:02:13,267 --> 01:02:16,547
Speaker 26: and and just be a savage basically. So two very

1307
01:02:16,707 --> 01:02:19,347
Speaker 26: exciting styles you know that I think will compliment for

1308
01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:22,307
Speaker 26: a great fight. But yeah, watch for Drickis Duplesses come

1309
01:02:22,427 --> 01:02:23,667
Speaker 26: forward and that brute strength.

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Speaker 2: These two don't like each other very much, do they No.

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Speaker 22: And they've openly admitted it too. It's crazy they aren't usually.

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Speaker 2: What's behind that? I know that there's there's been suggestions

1313
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Speaker 2: of who the real African champions I think. I think

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Speaker 2: Drickis has said that he lives in South Africa, you know.

1315
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Speaker 2: I obviously he's very proud of both as New Zealand

1316
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Speaker 2: and as Nigerian heritage. Is this just all trash talking

1317
01:02:49,267 --> 01:02:51,307
Speaker 2: the lead up? Or is there something deeper here?

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Speaker 24: You know?

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Speaker 26: I kind of thought in the beginning, I was like, Okay, great,

1320
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Speaker 26: they've created this narrative and this is what we can

1321
01:02:58,867 --> 01:03:02,307
Speaker 26: run off of having conversations with Israel, specially Fight week

1322
01:03:02,387 --> 01:03:06,547
Speaker 26: this week. It has cut him those comments that he

1323
01:03:06,627 --> 01:03:09,587
Speaker 26: made about, as you said, being the real African champion.

1324
01:03:09,667 --> 01:03:12,107
Speaker 22: He says, you know, I live breathe I was born

1325
01:03:12,147 --> 01:03:13,867
Speaker 22: here in Africa. I breathe the African air.

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Speaker 26: You know, I bring the title back to the people

1327
01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:19,307
Speaker 26: in Israel A dathsonya doesn't he you know, he migrated

1328
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Speaker 26: away and he's not here with the people. So that's

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Speaker 26: something that israel A daths Onnya took to heart because obviously,

1330
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Speaker 26: I mean, he wasn't you know, living absolutely in poverty.

1331
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Speaker 22: When he was in Nigeria.

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Speaker 26: But his mum and dad well and truly made the

1333
01:03:32,827 --> 01:03:34,747
Speaker 26: move to New Zealand to have a better life and

1334
01:03:34,827 --> 01:03:37,107
Speaker 26: to give him and his siblings a better life. I

1335
01:03:37,187 --> 01:03:40,907
Speaker 26: think his dad's an accountant, mum's a nurse, so they

1336
01:03:40,987 --> 01:03:43,027
Speaker 26: worked really hard to get to where they are. And

1337
01:03:43,347 --> 01:03:45,787
Speaker 26: you know that's the reason why Israel, you know, fights,

1338
01:03:45,867 --> 01:03:48,867
Speaker 26: and they're his purpose. So I think that struck a

1339
01:03:48,947 --> 01:03:51,027
Speaker 26: nerve that and I think that's a lot a lot

1340
01:03:51,067 --> 01:03:53,387
Speaker 26: of New Zealanders can resonate with that, is that, you know,

1341
01:03:53,467 --> 01:03:55,707
Speaker 26: if you talk all of where I'm from or who

1342
01:03:55,827 --> 01:03:56,187
Speaker 26: I am.

1343
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Speaker 22: That you will take it to heart. And I think

1344
01:03:57,987 --> 01:03:59,627
Speaker 22: that's what's happened here in it and it's for real,

1345
01:04:00,067 --> 01:04:00,347
Speaker 22: all right.

1346
01:04:00,467 --> 01:04:02,067
Speaker 2: Let's look at a couple of the other fights your

1347
01:04:02,107 --> 01:04:05,907
Speaker 2: co host on UFC on Scott Dan Hooker against number

1348
01:04:05,947 --> 01:04:10,267
Speaker 2: five ranked Matthias Gamrock. Dan Hooker feels like an underdog

1349
01:04:10,307 --> 01:04:12,547
Speaker 2: in this one, but from the footage I've seen and

1350
01:04:12,627 --> 01:04:14,427
Speaker 2: you're talking to him, he looks really pumped up. How

1351
01:04:14,467 --> 01:04:15,107
Speaker 2: do you reckon it'll go?

1352
01:04:17,067 --> 01:04:17,307
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1353
01:04:17,587 --> 01:04:21,427
Speaker 26: I mean I've been following Dan hook obviously for his

1354
01:04:21,587 --> 01:04:25,747
Speaker 26: career and this I've never seen him so like hungry

1355
01:04:25,827 --> 01:04:28,147
Speaker 26: for a fight but so happy at the same time,

1356
01:04:28,307 --> 01:04:31,107
Speaker 26: like really content all at the same time. I feel

1357
01:04:31,147 --> 01:04:34,067
Speaker 26: like he's really hit his stride in terms of peaking

1358
01:04:34,107 --> 01:04:36,427
Speaker 26: at the right time in his career, in terms of maturity.

1359
01:04:36,827 --> 01:04:38,707
Speaker 26: He says he feels he's in the best shape of

1360
01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:40,387
Speaker 26: his life, and he also feels like he's a better

1361
01:04:40,427 --> 01:04:41,307
Speaker 26: fighter this time around.

1362
01:04:41,307 --> 01:04:43,307
Speaker 22: And when we were just talking about celebrating.

1363
01:04:42,907 --> 01:04:45,587
Speaker 26: Ten years in the UFC, and he's saying, just now

1364
01:04:45,867 --> 01:04:48,907
Speaker 26: he's like the best like he ever felt he is,

1365
01:04:49,067 --> 01:04:51,987
Speaker 26: you know, being the older fighter. So I'm always a

1366
01:04:52,107 --> 01:04:54,707
Speaker 26: firm believer that a happy fighter is a dangerous fighter,

1367
01:04:54,747 --> 01:04:56,227
Speaker 26: and that is definitely Dan Hooker right now.

1368
01:04:56,307 --> 01:04:59,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks very happy up there, You're right. Was

1369
01:04:59,387 --> 01:05:01,427
Speaker 2: that his daughter he had with her mum and at

1370
01:05:01,467 --> 01:05:01,867
Speaker 2: the way in.

1371
01:05:03,067 --> 01:05:06,587
Speaker 22: It was indeed little Zoe. Oh she mounts your that

1372
01:05:06,707 --> 01:05:07,187
Speaker 22: little girl.

1373
01:05:07,227 --> 01:05:11,387
Speaker 26: But yeah, she took the stage yesterday and mounted everybody's hearts.

1374
01:05:11,427 --> 01:05:11,987
Speaker 22: She sure did.

1375
01:05:12,067 --> 01:05:15,867
Speaker 26: And yeah, very proud of her dad and how exciting

1376
01:05:15,947 --> 01:05:17,347
Speaker 26: for her to be able to watch that on the

1377
01:05:17,347 --> 01:05:19,387
Speaker 26: big stage and then join him, holding his hand and stuff.

1378
01:05:19,507 --> 01:05:21,347
Speaker 22: And it showed a nice soft side to Dan too.

1379
01:05:21,387 --> 01:05:24,427
Speaker 26: He's always so hard and you know, quite radical in things,

1380
01:05:24,467 --> 01:05:25,867
Speaker 26: so it was nice to see a softer side to

1381
01:05:25,947 --> 01:05:26,347
Speaker 26: him as well.

1382
01:05:26,427 --> 01:05:28,587
Speaker 2: Indeed, And speaking of that, Kai Cutter France, I mean

1383
01:05:28,867 --> 01:05:30,867
Speaker 2: I saw him at the way I'm very pumped up,

1384
01:05:31,067 --> 01:05:34,547
Speaker 2: really into it, but then he also got very emotional

1385
01:05:34,707 --> 01:05:36,627
Speaker 2: when you talk to him about his Fano back home.

1386
01:05:36,987 --> 01:05:39,027
Speaker 2: What are your sense from Kayik Cutter France.

1387
01:05:40,787 --> 01:05:43,467
Speaker 22: Yeah, lot's changed for Klai Cutter France over the past year.

1388
01:05:43,507 --> 01:05:43,667
Speaker 6: You know.

1389
01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:47,147
Speaker 26: He he had a bit of a ripoff decision against

1390
01:05:47,147 --> 01:05:49,747
Speaker 26: Ameer al Barzi at a UFC fight night last year

1391
01:05:49,787 --> 01:05:51,547
Speaker 26: and then since then hasn't been able to fight because

1392
01:05:51,547 --> 01:05:53,747
Speaker 26: he's been battling concussion. So he's gone through the ringer

1393
01:05:54,347 --> 01:05:55,827
Speaker 26: trying to come back from that. It's one thing to

1394
01:05:55,867 --> 01:05:57,867
Speaker 26: come back from a physical injury. It's another to come

1395
01:05:57,907 --> 01:06:00,787
Speaker 26: back from a brain injury, obviously, So he's been you know,

1396
01:06:00,907 --> 01:06:03,547
Speaker 26: he's been with the specialists and testing and trying to

1397
01:06:03,587 --> 01:06:06,187
Speaker 26: get back to tip top shape. He's you know, leaned

1398
01:06:06,747 --> 01:06:08,947
Speaker 26: with the warriors to try and help himself in the

1399
01:06:09,027 --> 01:06:12,107
Speaker 26: mental space. And within all of that, him and his

1400
01:06:12,147 --> 01:06:14,307
Speaker 26: wife had another baby. So there's been a lot happening

1401
01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:16,667
Speaker 26: for kai Kata France. And I think you know, through

1402
01:06:16,747 --> 01:06:18,787
Speaker 26: all of that and through all that journey, that it's

1403
01:06:18,787 --> 01:06:20,467
Speaker 26: all come to this and this is his moment to

1404
01:06:20,507 --> 01:06:23,387
Speaker 26: Shina when he gets him a title shot. So there's

1405
01:06:23,387 --> 01:06:24,787
Speaker 26: a lot on the line for him, and I think

1406
01:06:25,027 --> 01:06:27,267
Speaker 26: I just caught him at a time where maybe he

1407
01:06:27,427 --> 01:06:28,187
Speaker 26: realized all of that.

1408
01:06:29,227 --> 01:06:31,747
Speaker 2: What on an occasion this afternoon? What's the venue like.

1409
01:06:33,867 --> 01:06:34,747
Speaker 22: Aric Arena.

1410
01:06:34,907 --> 01:06:36,627
Speaker 26: Yes, we've been there a couple of times now for

1411
01:06:36,707 --> 01:06:38,707
Speaker 26: both the press conference and the way and it's a

1412
01:06:38,707 --> 01:06:41,147
Speaker 26: lot smaller than I expected to be honest, I actually

1413
01:06:41,827 --> 01:06:45,347
Speaker 26: I think Spark Arena seats more than Aric Arena.

1414
01:06:45,267 --> 01:06:48,707
Speaker 22: If the if I've done my research properly there.

1415
01:06:48,827 --> 01:06:51,267
Speaker 26: But it's a nice venue right in the middle of

1416
01:06:51,307 --> 01:06:56,027
Speaker 26: Perth in the city and because of it being so small,

1417
01:06:56,067 --> 01:06:58,667
Speaker 26: I can understand why the last time they had to

1418
01:06:58,787 --> 01:07:01,347
Speaker 26: UFC at the spot they said that I wasn't you know.

1419
01:07:01,627 --> 01:07:04,507
Speaker 26: The fans are absolutely shaking the house, screaming and yelling

1420
01:07:04,547 --> 01:07:07,467
Speaker 26: and things because it's quite intimate, so I'm expecting the

1421
01:07:07,547 --> 01:07:10,707
Speaker 26: same today. You know, you've got an Australian or New

1422
01:07:10,787 --> 01:07:13,587
Speaker 26: Zealander basically on every single fight on this car, so

1423
01:07:13,627 --> 01:07:15,747
Speaker 26: that's going to be absolutely massive and a lot of

1424
01:07:15,787 --> 01:07:17,627
Speaker 26: support behind our local fighters.

1425
01:07:17,747 --> 01:07:21,107
Speaker 2: Absolutely can't wait for a really exciting afternoon, Revender, Thanks

1426
01:07:21,147 --> 01:07:23,827
Speaker 2: for joining us, loving your work on sky Hope. It's

1427
01:07:23,867 --> 01:07:26,867
Speaker 2: a very memorable afternoon for you and for all of

1428
01:07:26,907 --> 01:07:28,187
Speaker 2: our fighters from back here as well.

1429
01:07:29,187 --> 01:07:30,747
Speaker 22: I'm sure it will be. Thank you for having me.

1430
01:07:30,867 --> 01:07:32,867
Speaker 2: No, thanks for joining us, Rivenda, Rivenda who neea there

1431
01:07:33,587 --> 01:07:38,107
Speaker 2: from a UFC on sky So UFC three five rac

1432
01:07:38,227 --> 01:07:42,267
Speaker 2: Arena in Perth this afternoon. Israel Adisagna, aiming to become

1433
01:07:42,307 --> 01:07:45,827
Speaker 2: the UFC's first three time middleweight champion, takes on at trikastupla.

1434
01:07:45,907 --> 01:07:48,667
Speaker 2: See that'll be a bit later on. The undercart starts

1435
01:07:48,907 --> 01:07:50,827
Speaker 2: at two o'clock, so what are we now about? Twenty

1436
01:07:50,867 --> 01:07:52,867
Speaker 2: four minutes away from things getting underweight. We'll keep you

1437
01:07:52,947 --> 01:07:55,547
Speaker 2: up to date right across the afternoon on Israel, but

1438
01:07:55,707 --> 01:08:00,027
Speaker 2: also on Dan Hooker and Kaikara France involved as well.

1439
01:08:00,827 --> 01:08:03,107
Speaker 2: When we come back across to the UK, we go.

1440
01:08:03,307 --> 01:08:05,907
Speaker 2: James mcconey has been in Paris for the Olympics and

1441
01:08:05,987 --> 01:08:09,227
Speaker 2: his jeted off now to the UK where he's filing

1442
01:08:09,347 --> 01:08:12,267
Speaker 2: various bits and pieces for the for the for the

1443
01:08:12,347 --> 01:08:15,627
Speaker 2: different organizations he works for. But he will take our

1444
01:08:15,707 --> 01:08:18,907
Speaker 2: call James mcconey in his regular Sunday slot right after this.

1445
01:08:20,387 --> 01:08:23,307
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

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01:08:23,307 --> 01:08:28,107
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pin and GJ. Guvnerholmes,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs.

1448
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Speaker 2: They'd be twenty one, so you just stoupdoating some live

1449
01:08:32,987 --> 01:08:35,667
Speaker 2: sport for you. Scott McLoughlin's come home second in the

1450
01:08:36,387 --> 01:08:40,587
Speaker 2: IndyCar Race in Illinois. Joseph Newgarden has won his fifth

1451
01:08:41,387 --> 01:08:44,947
Speaker 2: victory on this oval track. I understand ya McLoughlin's second.

1452
01:08:44,987 --> 01:08:46,867
Speaker 2: There was all sorts of chaos without eight laps to

1453
01:08:46,947 --> 01:08:49,707
Speaker 2: go and had to go under a what was a

1454
01:08:49,787 --> 01:08:51,227
Speaker 2: red flat green flag. They had to go into a

1455
01:08:51,267 --> 01:08:55,147
Speaker 2: flag and start again and McLaughlin couldn't get past Newgarden

1456
01:08:55,187 --> 01:08:57,587
Speaker 2: in the final seven or eight laps, so second for him,

1457
01:08:57,747 --> 01:09:01,867
Speaker 2: still a really good result. Marcus Armstrong the eighth place,

1458
01:09:02,267 --> 01:09:06,307
Speaker 2: eighth for Marcus Armstrong and Scott Dixon coming home eleven.

1459
01:09:06,747 --> 01:09:08,627
Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date with that. Looking at

1460
01:09:08,667 --> 01:09:11,267
Speaker 2: some Farrah Palmer cup North Harbor forty one to five

1461
01:09:11,347 --> 01:09:15,107
Speaker 2: ahead of Tasman at Albany and looking to score in

1462
01:09:15,187 --> 01:09:18,027
Speaker 2: another try just as we speak, seventy five minutes gone,

1463
01:09:18,427 --> 01:09:21,627
Speaker 2: and that one couple of Bunning's MPC matches underway at

1464
01:09:21,627 --> 01:09:24,867
Speaker 2: around about two o'clock this afternoon after two actually we'll

1465
01:09:24,907 --> 01:09:28,107
Speaker 2: talk to Ben o'keeff. He's refereeing County's White Cuttle this

1466
01:09:28,187 --> 01:09:32,347
Speaker 2: afternoon has two hundred and twenty second first Class fifteen's match.

1467
01:09:32,547 --> 01:09:36,747
Speaker 2: That takes some past Patty O'Brien as our highest referee

1468
01:09:36,787 --> 01:09:40,747
Speaker 2: in terms of controlling matches with fifteen plaza side. So

1469
01:09:40,867 --> 01:09:43,547
Speaker 2: Ben O'Keeffe on the show a bit later on this afternoon.

1470
01:09:43,627 --> 01:09:47,427
Speaker 2: Let's get you though, to James mcconey, who is still

1471
01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:50,307
Speaker 2: in the Northern Hemisphere from the Paris Olympics across to

1472
01:09:50,947 --> 01:09:54,787
Speaker 2: the UK where you'll be jumping around and visiting various people.

1473
01:09:54,867 --> 01:09:57,667
Speaker 2: Opening weekend to the Premier League season. Of course, James

1474
01:09:57,907 --> 01:10:02,067
Speaker 2: Chris Wood has another goal. That's nine Premier League seasons

1475
01:10:02,147 --> 01:10:03,867
Speaker 2: now in which he scored. He got the goal in

1476
01:10:03,947 --> 01:10:07,227
Speaker 2: Forests one all draw with Bournemouth to open the Premier

1477
01:10:07,267 --> 01:10:09,427
Speaker 2: League season. More goals in the Premier League now than

1478
01:10:10,187 --> 01:10:12,827
Speaker 2: Eric Cantoner. What a player Chris Wood has become.

1479
01:10:13,747 --> 01:10:16,667
Speaker 6: It's unbelievable, isn't it. I'm so thrilled for Chris Wood.

1480
01:10:16,707 --> 01:10:19,987
Speaker 8: And I feel like I've watched enough podcasts saying that

1481
01:10:20,107 --> 01:10:22,627
Speaker 8: Forrests are going to be in the relegation zone to

1482
01:10:22,747 --> 01:10:25,507
Speaker 8: think that they haven't really factored in Chris Wood.

1483
01:10:25,387 --> 01:10:27,267
Speaker 6: Because he keeps scoring goals.

1484
01:10:27,307 --> 01:10:30,027
Speaker 8: He's an important part of that club and I think

1485
01:10:30,027 --> 01:10:33,267
Speaker 8: they've got actually a pretty good nucleus of attacking, attacking players.

1486
01:10:33,347 --> 01:10:37,747
Speaker 8: So I know it's only one all, but hey, it's

1487
01:10:37,787 --> 01:10:40,787
Speaker 8: a point and Chris Wood just doesn't miss.

1488
01:10:40,867 --> 01:10:43,307
Speaker 6: You know, he's reliable and very very reliable.

1489
01:10:43,347 --> 01:10:46,027
Speaker 2: They all count for one doesn't matter. And yeah, he's

1490
01:10:46,147 --> 01:10:48,227
Speaker 2: just a guy a lot of teams would like to have.

1491
01:10:48,667 --> 01:10:51,027
Speaker 2: I guess his heir apparent in the All Watch anyway

1492
01:10:51,067 --> 01:10:53,587
Speaker 2: would be Ben Wayne. He's a Plymouth our guy. Now

1493
01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:55,627
Speaker 2: Wayne Rooney's his boss, James.

1494
01:10:56,147 --> 01:10:58,587
Speaker 8: I know I'm going down there to see him on

1495
01:10:58,787 --> 01:11:02,907
Speaker 8: Monday for Crowd Goes Wild. So I can't wait to

1496
01:11:03,027 --> 01:11:07,267
Speaker 8: see Wayne and Wayne. But they've said to me, you

1497
01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:09,387
Speaker 8: might not get an audience with Wayne Rooney. But I

1498
01:11:09,507 --> 01:11:11,627
Speaker 8: just said, I might be the only journalist that's traveled

1499
01:11:11,627 --> 01:11:14,507
Speaker 8: twelve thousand miles to be there, So just you know,

1500
01:11:14,627 --> 01:11:17,187
Speaker 8: give him a little nudge in my direction if you can.

1501
01:11:17,707 --> 01:11:20,987
Speaker 6: But Ben Wayne, he look, I think that this is

1502
01:11:21,187 --> 01:11:22,587
Speaker 6: this is a big season for him.

1503
01:11:22,987 --> 01:11:25,187
Speaker 8: He's you know, he's you can tell that he's starting

1504
01:11:25,267 --> 01:11:28,427
Speaker 8: games for the New Zealand at all levels and and

1505
01:11:28,587 --> 01:11:29,187
Speaker 8: I think he is.

1506
01:11:29,187 --> 01:11:31,947
Speaker 6: A proper starting striker.

1507
01:11:32,027 --> 01:11:34,547
Speaker 8: And he's always been on the bench for Plymouth Argyle

1508
01:11:35,187 --> 01:11:37,347
Speaker 8: and I think it stayed that way today.

1509
01:11:37,507 --> 01:11:40,827
Speaker 6: So look, he's it's pivotal for Ben Wayne.

1510
01:11:40,867 --> 01:11:42,827
Speaker 8: But you've watched him from his what I call his

1511
01:11:42,987 --> 01:11:47,347
Speaker 8: Macaulay Culkin days, his home alone days as a basically

1512
01:11:47,387 --> 01:11:50,107
Speaker 8: a child playing for the Phoenix. I think this is

1513
01:11:50,547 --> 01:11:52,587
Speaker 8: this is going to be massive learning from pretty much

1514
01:11:52,747 --> 01:11:55,787
Speaker 8: you know, one of the greatest English strikers of all time.

1515
01:11:55,907 --> 01:11:58,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, terrific for him. You just need to send

1516
01:11:58,587 --> 01:12:01,867
Speaker 2: send Plymouth Arguile footage of you interviewing Tony Hawk and

1517
01:12:01,987 --> 01:12:05,507
Speaker 2: Scottie Shefflin and and tell them that actually, Wayne Rooney

1518
01:12:05,587 --> 01:12:07,987
Speaker 2: is not not such a big deal for you anyway.

1519
01:12:07,987 --> 01:12:12,587
Speaker 2: I'm sure, Ygun. Three of the biggest styles on the planet,

1520
01:12:12,627 --> 01:12:15,947
Speaker 2: Wayne Rudy just they'll be very sort of common place

1521
01:12:16,067 --> 01:12:18,267
Speaker 2: by comparison. Hey, did you get the touch in front

1522
01:12:18,307 --> 01:12:19,467
Speaker 2: of a TV and watch you all Blacks?

1523
01:12:20,627 --> 01:12:20,827
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1524
01:12:20,827 --> 01:12:23,747
Speaker 8: I did, And I really thought that they played some

1525
01:12:23,947 --> 01:12:25,187
Speaker 8: Champagne rugby in the rain.

1526
01:12:25,307 --> 01:12:27,347
Speaker 6: I thought the Fords are outstanding.

1527
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,307
Speaker 8: Great to see two po vi he sort of stamp

1528
01:12:29,427 --> 01:12:31,227
Speaker 8: his mark on the game because I feel like he's

1529
01:12:31,587 --> 01:12:35,627
Speaker 8: he's got that and him the loose forwards actually were excellent,

1530
01:12:35,667 --> 01:12:39,187
Speaker 8: weren't they. And but really for me the standout performance

1531
01:12:39,387 --> 01:12:42,947
Speaker 8: was Damien McKenzie. I think, you know, he's getting coming

1532
01:12:43,027 --> 01:12:45,547
Speaker 8: under a lot of pressure for game management and all

1533
01:12:45,627 --> 01:12:47,907
Speaker 8: these different sort of things that yeah, I know it's

1534
01:12:47,947 --> 01:12:51,027
Speaker 8: important for a first five. But I just think, don't

1535
01:12:51,147 --> 01:12:55,347
Speaker 8: scare off or don't ruin let's say, the chances of

1536
01:12:55,427 --> 01:12:59,307
Speaker 8: seeing someone who could be a real an outstanding.

1537
01:12:58,707 --> 01:13:01,947
Speaker 6: First five too early in the piece. You know, we've

1538
01:13:02,027 --> 01:13:02,787
Speaker 6: we've scared off.

1539
01:13:02,707 --> 01:13:06,587
Speaker 8: Talented players before in rugby, and I just don't want

1540
01:13:06,587 --> 01:13:10,587
Speaker 8: to see that happen to someone like Damian mackenzie. Look,

1541
01:13:10,947 --> 01:13:14,587
Speaker 8: his best position may yet be fallback with boat and

1542
01:13:14,667 --> 01:13:17,267
Speaker 8: sliding into ten or something like that, but at the moment,

1543
01:13:17,467 --> 01:13:21,187
Speaker 8: I'm I think it's worth persevering with that experiment.

1544
01:13:21,387 --> 01:13:23,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree, and I think he'll get the

1545
01:13:23,907 --> 01:13:26,187
Speaker 2: ten jersey for the next Test against South Africa and

1546
01:13:26,267 --> 01:13:29,627
Speaker 2: then we see from there. I thought it was a

1547
01:13:29,627 --> 01:13:31,467
Speaker 2: pretty good crowd there at Eaton Park last night. It

1548
01:13:31,547 --> 01:13:34,387
Speaker 2: was very wet, especially in the lead up to the game.

1549
01:13:34,387 --> 01:13:37,067
Speaker 2: Once the game started it wasn't as bad, but I'm

1550
01:13:37,107 --> 01:13:40,027
Speaker 2: still getting over forty thousand there. We've talked during the

1551
01:13:40,067 --> 01:13:43,907
Speaker 2: week about the lack of crowd by Comparison and Wellington.

1552
01:13:44,107 --> 01:13:46,867
Speaker 2: I think every sports organization is looking for a way

1553
01:13:46,987 --> 01:13:50,067
Speaker 2: to make their events pop. If you like I mean

1554
01:13:50,427 --> 01:13:52,147
Speaker 2: you're an out of the box thinker. Have you got

1555
01:13:52,187 --> 01:13:52,747
Speaker 2: any thoughts on this?

1556
01:13:54,307 --> 01:13:58,067
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was kind of messaging you before saying, look,

1557
01:13:58,107 --> 01:14:00,667
Speaker 8: I think there's something in the way that a lot

1558
01:14:00,707 --> 01:14:03,867
Speaker 8: of sports events have just become so big that they

1559
01:14:03,987 --> 01:14:05,867
Speaker 8: still improve against all odds.

1560
01:14:05,907 --> 01:14:06,027
Speaker 5: You know.

1561
01:14:06,347 --> 01:14:08,907
Speaker 8: The Ryder Cup, for example, last year was the most

1562
01:14:09,027 --> 01:14:13,227
Speaker 8: watched in its history, even though linear TV or just

1563
01:14:13,347 --> 01:14:17,387
Speaker 8: normal TV is supposedly going down in ratings, but the

1564
01:14:18,107 --> 01:14:21,107
Speaker 8: Ryder Cup manages to sort of be bigger than ever.

1565
01:14:21,507 --> 01:14:24,747
Speaker 8: The Ashes seems to be bigger than ever, and it's

1566
01:14:24,867 --> 01:14:27,987
Speaker 8: more frequent now. So I think it comes down to

1567
01:14:28,067 --> 01:14:31,187
Speaker 8: a few things. One is rivalry. I think you can't

1568
01:14:31,267 --> 01:14:34,987
Speaker 8: beat that, and even state of origin, you can be

1569
01:14:35,067 --> 01:14:38,347
Speaker 8: an absolute newbie to that and still appreciate what's on

1570
01:14:38,427 --> 01:14:41,907
Speaker 8: the line with this intense rivalry. But then you need

1571
01:14:41,987 --> 01:14:44,227
Speaker 8: a format that really works, and that's where I think

1572
01:14:44,267 --> 01:14:47,187
Speaker 8: the Ryder Cup is something. By having three days of

1573
01:14:47,267 --> 01:14:50,627
Speaker 8: different types of competition. I wonder whether rugby. I know

1574
01:14:50,747 --> 01:14:53,947
Speaker 8: Rugby's going back to Tours of South Africa, but would

1575
01:14:53,987 --> 01:14:58,707
Speaker 8: it perhaps work, for example, for Transtasmin competition not to

1576
01:14:58,867 --> 01:15:01,467
Speaker 8: just play for the bleeders load with the men playing,

1577
01:15:01,547 --> 01:15:04,187
Speaker 8: but then also have the Black fans play and then

1578
01:15:04,307 --> 01:15:05,867
Speaker 8: have our sevens teams play.

1579
01:15:06,427 --> 01:15:07,387
Speaker 6: And you know what I mean.

1580
01:15:08,147 --> 01:15:10,907
Speaker 8: So there's four games, yes, and then it all becomes

1581
01:15:10,987 --> 01:15:14,267
Speaker 8: a massive format so that you're all fully engaged in

1582
01:15:14,347 --> 01:15:18,107
Speaker 8: all these different styles of rugby. And I mean that's

1583
01:15:18,227 --> 01:15:20,507
Speaker 8: just for rugby, but I feel like in other sports

1584
01:15:20,947 --> 01:15:23,667
Speaker 8: that could happen. Football, whatever you like, it needs they

1585
01:15:23,707 --> 01:15:27,547
Speaker 8: need to have some just change, tweak the format a

1586
01:15:27,627 --> 01:15:31,107
Speaker 8: bit so that people have properly interested in the outcome.

1587
01:15:31,307 --> 01:15:33,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're talking innovation, nothing should be off the table,

1588
01:15:34,267 --> 01:15:36,627
Speaker 2: you know. Just yeah, just kick some ideas around.

1589
01:15:36,667 --> 01:15:37,027
Speaker 6: I like that.

1590
01:15:37,227 --> 01:15:39,507
Speaker 2: Even what do we add the touch blacks and have

1591
01:15:39,587 --> 01:15:41,947
Speaker 2: a game of touch as well as part of it all?

1592
01:15:41,947 --> 01:15:42,227
Speaker 6: Why not?

1593
01:15:42,307 --> 01:15:44,027
Speaker 2: I mean, let's kick some ideas around and see what

1594
01:15:44,587 --> 01:15:46,667
Speaker 2: flows to the top. Hey, speaking of ideas, you've got

1595
01:15:46,707 --> 01:15:49,507
Speaker 2: a new a new call it a show. I'm not

1596
01:15:49,547 --> 01:15:52,267
Speaker 2: sure what the right terminology is these days. I'm not

1597
01:15:52,307 --> 01:15:54,067
Speaker 2: sure what the young kids are calling it. You've got

1598
01:15:54,707 --> 01:15:56,227
Speaker 2: you've got something new coming up.

1599
01:15:57,587 --> 01:16:00,707
Speaker 8: It's really a chat show that's on on Sky starts

1600
01:16:00,747 --> 01:16:04,027
Speaker 8: tomorrow night at seven thirty pm on Sky Sport one.

1601
01:16:04,507 --> 01:16:08,307
Speaker 8: And it's called It's not Tiddley Winks, so it's referenced

1602
01:16:08,347 --> 01:16:11,227
Speaker 8: to Tanna among his famous quote when he was saying

1603
01:16:11,267 --> 01:16:14,027
Speaker 8: to the ref, you know, we're playing rugby here, and

1604
01:16:14,187 --> 01:16:19,467
Speaker 8: it's really just having players talking, sharing stories that they

1605
01:16:19,507 --> 01:16:20,507
Speaker 8: wouldn't normally share.

1606
01:16:20,987 --> 01:16:23,187
Speaker 6: I mean, you and I have done so much, so

1607
01:16:23,307 --> 01:16:25,587
Speaker 6: many events where we're em seeing.

1608
01:16:25,507 --> 01:16:27,987
Speaker 8: And doing Q and A on the couch in front

1609
01:16:28,027 --> 01:16:32,027
Speaker 8: of you know, live audiences, and quite often those stories

1610
01:16:32,107 --> 01:16:34,707
Speaker 8: some of them probably aren't for TV, but some of

1611
01:16:34,787 --> 01:16:37,667
Speaker 8: them are. And that's where I sort of decided that

1612
01:16:37,827 --> 01:16:39,467
Speaker 8: this would be a good idea to have a show

1613
01:16:39,467 --> 01:16:42,707
Speaker 8: where We've got Stephen Donald kicking things off tomorrow night

1614
01:16:42,827 --> 01:16:46,587
Speaker 8: and he's fantastic. We've got Shrey and Gillies Khaka coming up,

1615
01:16:46,707 --> 01:16:52,587
Speaker 8: a Peartow Brothers really interesting, Steve Devine, Thomas the Tank Engine, Waldrome.

1616
01:16:52,747 --> 01:16:55,827
Speaker 8: You know, there's Frank Buntz as an episode as well.

1617
01:16:55,947 --> 01:16:57,907
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's going to be every week for the

1618
01:16:58,027 --> 01:17:01,827
Speaker 8: next six weeks on Monday night on Sky and I'm

1619
01:17:01,867 --> 01:17:05,027
Speaker 8: really excited just even just to do something I'm not on.

1620
01:17:05,267 --> 01:17:05,987
Speaker 6: In front of camera.

1621
01:17:06,027 --> 01:17:09,867
Speaker 8: I'm producing it and it's Rah Paul Muddy from Crowd

1622
01:17:09,907 --> 01:17:12,507
Speaker 8: Goes Wild and John R. Four are the hosts. But

1623
01:17:13,107 --> 01:17:17,667
Speaker 8: I think Beaver's stories are really interesting. Just even his

1624
01:17:17,907 --> 01:17:20,827
Speaker 8: sill of any siv vartu stories from Gauzoe mates at

1625
01:17:20,867 --> 01:17:23,747
Speaker 8: school right at Wesley College and then and then we're

1626
01:17:23,787 --> 01:17:26,747
Speaker 8: teammates for years and years and you could listen to

1627
01:17:26,827 --> 01:17:28,867
Speaker 8: them all day, but they are half an hour.

1628
01:17:28,987 --> 01:17:32,347
Speaker 6: So that's my plate tune in nice.

1629
01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:34,787
Speaker 2: One A good plug too, excellent to chat to you, mate,

1630
01:17:34,787 --> 01:17:37,667
Speaker 2: all the best with Wayne and Wayne, with Ben and Wayne,

1631
01:17:37,707 --> 01:17:40,307
Speaker 2: with Wayne and Rooney when you get when you get

1632
01:17:40,347 --> 01:17:42,947
Speaker 2: down to Plymouth wherever that might be. Hey, great to

1633
01:17:43,027 --> 01:17:45,387
Speaker 2: chat as always, mate. We'll catch up again next Sunday.

1634
01:17:46,707 --> 01:17:48,907
Speaker 6: Cheers Poney, Thanks mate, Yeah, Rooney.

1635
01:17:50,787 --> 01:17:53,947
Speaker 2: James mcconey from the UK off to see Wayne, Rooney

1636
01:17:54,027 --> 01:17:56,107
Speaker 2: and Ben Wayne. No doubt we'll hear all about that

1637
01:17:56,267 --> 01:18:00,067
Speaker 2: next week when James mccony joins us in his next

1638
01:18:00,187 --> 01:18:03,627
Speaker 2: installment of Sunday Afternoons on weekend Sport eleven Away from

1639
01:18:03,707 --> 01:18:06,707
Speaker 2: two updating you on some live sport chat. Madam Cup

1640
01:18:06,747 --> 01:18:12,547
Speaker 2: Football Semi final time Coastal Spirit hosting Wellington Olympic down

1641
01:18:12,587 --> 01:18:15,867
Speaker 2: in christ Church one all at halftime or approaching halftime

1642
01:18:15,907 --> 01:18:18,147
Speaker 2: in that game. The second semi is at two o'clock

1643
01:18:18,147 --> 01:18:23,187
Speaker 2: at Kiwatia Street in Auckland Auckland City up against Birkenhead United.

1644
01:18:24,107 --> 01:18:25,947
Speaker 2: When we come back, We'll just give you a couple

1645
01:18:25,987 --> 01:18:31,147
Speaker 2: of little snippets from Scott Robertson's day after media session

1646
01:18:31,667 --> 01:18:34,267
Speaker 2: house he feeling as they head off to the big

1647
01:18:34,347 --> 01:18:36,547
Speaker 2: challenge of South Africa. We'll hear are the thoughts of

1648
01:18:36,867 --> 01:18:39,787
Speaker 2: Scott Robertson after this on Weekend Sport when.

1649
01:18:39,667 --> 01:18:41,947
Speaker 1: It's down to the line. You made a call on

1650
01:18:43,307 --> 01:18:46,827
Speaker 1: ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pine News dog.

1651
01:18:46,747 --> 01:18:49,187
Speaker 2: ZMB seven and a half to two full time in

1652
01:18:49,267 --> 01:18:52,147
Speaker 2: that far Apartmer Cup Championship game at Albany and North

1653
01:18:52,187 --> 01:18:54,987
Speaker 2: Harbor of beaten Tasmen forty six points to five, so

1654
01:18:55,187 --> 01:18:58,507
Speaker 2: fairly comprehensive. There Bunning's MPC action underway in about ten minutes.

1655
01:18:59,027 --> 01:19:02,067
Speaker 2: Goldsport and iHeartRadio have commentaries of these games. Bay of plenty,

1656
01:19:02,187 --> 01:19:05,027
Speaker 2: North Harbor. This game is at the toadong A Domain

1657
01:19:05,147 --> 01:19:07,547
Speaker 2: Bay of plenty two from two looking very good and

1658
01:19:07,747 --> 01:19:10,627
Speaker 2: at pottydo A Park or Jerry Collins Stadium in Potty

1659
01:19:10,667 --> 01:19:13,947
Speaker 2: do Wellington taking on Tararanhaky. That game also at five

1660
01:19:14,147 --> 01:19:17,627
Speaker 2: past two. Scott Robinson, all blacks Head coach the day

1661
01:19:17,667 --> 01:19:21,307
Speaker 2: after the win over Argentina last night, has he already

1662
01:19:21,387 --> 01:19:23,267
Speaker 2: started thinking ahead to South Africa?

1663
01:19:23,907 --> 01:19:26,227
Speaker 27: You do, just naturally, You look forward to the next

1664
01:19:26,267 --> 01:19:31,467
Speaker 27: game pretty quickly. Yeah, you know, these two don't come

1665
01:19:31,467 --> 01:19:34,547
Speaker 27: around that often, especially the Joe burg Cape down combo,

1666
01:19:35,787 --> 01:19:38,827
Speaker 27: so you're aways planning away And you know, I enjoyed

1667
01:19:38,867 --> 01:19:43,107
Speaker 27: last night and the capping and of the three debutantes

1668
01:19:43,987 --> 01:19:48,387
Speaker 27: with their families and then get a sleeping sort of

1669
01:19:48,387 --> 01:19:50,107
Speaker 27: a sleeping and then get straight onto the next job.

1670
01:19:50,427 --> 01:19:53,827
Speaker 2: Haw's last night's performance loosened the shackles around the team

1671
01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:54,827
Speaker 2: a little bit, a.

1672
01:19:54,827 --> 01:19:57,947
Speaker 27: Little bit, just confirmed what you know, we've been planning

1673
01:19:57,987 --> 01:20:02,147
Speaker 27: all along, I could said last night and the execution

1674
01:20:02,347 --> 01:20:05,907
Speaker 27: part of it. Love the efforts and off the ball,

1675
01:20:07,387 --> 01:20:09,067
Speaker 27: you know, we showed a lot of those clips. We

1676
01:20:09,187 --> 01:20:11,507
Speaker 27: just needed to get that these little finishers people finishing

1677
01:20:11,627 --> 01:20:14,147
Speaker 27: your job. We've been creating and doing jobs, but not

1678
01:20:14,187 --> 01:20:16,707
Speaker 27: finishing job. So that was pleasing and the mood of

1679
01:20:16,747 --> 01:20:18,707
Speaker 27: the group was boy enters.

1680
01:20:18,867 --> 01:20:20,947
Speaker 2: You can imagine how big is the challenge of getting

1681
01:20:20,987 --> 01:20:23,187
Speaker 2: the team up to speed now with the challenge that

1682
01:20:23,347 --> 01:20:24,667
Speaker 2: South Africa will present.

1683
01:20:25,347 --> 01:20:28,187
Speaker 27: Yeah, these different styles and these different body types, and

1684
01:20:28,307 --> 01:20:31,907
Speaker 27: they've got a clear DNA South Africa. They've been pretty

1685
01:20:31,907 --> 01:20:36,027
Speaker 27: innovative involved evolved really well in the last few games.

1686
01:20:36,107 --> 01:20:39,667
Speaker 27: So it's exciting part. And you know you said enough

1687
01:20:39,707 --> 01:20:43,667
Speaker 27: of them and test footing and you see how Zie's

1688
01:20:43,667 --> 01:20:48,347
Speaker 27: minds worked as pretty specials. They've got a great group there,

1689
01:20:48,387 --> 01:20:50,627
Speaker 27: so it's going to be great, great few test meters.

1690
01:20:50,707 --> 01:20:52,107
Speaker 2: And one thing we haven't talked about actually with the

1691
01:20:52,147 --> 01:20:54,387
Speaker 2: rugby today is our suffer I'm aways yellow card late

1692
01:20:54,467 --> 01:20:56,387
Speaker 2: in the game for head contact, stayed at a yellow

1693
01:20:56,427 --> 01:20:59,227
Speaker 2: card after an off field review. What did Scott Robertson

1694
01:20:59,267 --> 01:21:00,507
Speaker 2: make of that yellow card decision?

1695
01:21:00,987 --> 01:21:03,467
Speaker 27: I think it was right cool, yep, it was good.

1696
01:21:03,667 --> 01:21:06,787
Speaker 27: I Look, what I'm really impressed with is where we've

1697
01:21:06,827 --> 01:21:13,147
Speaker 27: got to clear processes. We've got considered its short sharp,

1698
01:21:13,227 --> 01:21:16,187
Speaker 27: they look at it. The tmo's coming in and saying

1699
01:21:16,547 --> 01:21:21,147
Speaker 27: it's a yellow. There is some mitigative factors. Let's don't

1700
01:21:21,187 --> 01:21:24,267
Speaker 27: have a look. It's done with and you know there's

1701
01:21:24,347 --> 01:21:27,027
Speaker 27: not big long stops and play. You know, the whole

1702
01:21:27,667 --> 01:21:31,467
Speaker 27: Rugby Championship has been really clear, it's been quicker, the

1703
01:21:32,067 --> 01:21:35,107
Speaker 27: actual entertainment values higher with all those little things that

1704
01:21:35,187 --> 01:21:37,067
Speaker 27: have been put in. I think they've done a great

1705
01:21:37,107 --> 01:21:39,547
Speaker 27: job world rugby and that's a great example of it.

1706
01:21:39,627 --> 01:21:40,627
Speaker 27: That yellow card there.

1707
01:21:40,867 --> 01:21:44,307
Speaker 2: That's Scott Robertson with some of his after or day

1708
01:21:44,387 --> 01:21:46,987
Speaker 2: after thoughts. The next Test is in a couple of

1709
01:21:47,067 --> 01:21:49,267
Speaker 2: weeks in South Africa. They playing joe Burg and then

1710
01:21:49,307 --> 01:21:52,507
Speaker 2: in Cape Town. Two massive test matches coming up. Look

1711
01:21:52,547 --> 01:21:54,867
Speaker 2: forward to us seeing how they play out into discussing

1712
01:21:54,987 --> 01:21:56,027
Speaker 2: those test matches with you.

1713
01:21:56,307 --> 01:21:56,547
Speaker 13: Final.

1714
01:21:56,547 --> 01:21:58,147
Speaker 2: A couple of texts on the rugby before we hit

1715
01:21:58,187 --> 01:22:01,747
Speaker 2: the news. Jason somewhat unheralded and unappreciated thought too, Paul

1716
01:22:01,787 --> 01:22:04,547
Speaker 2: Vai had a good game and telling Lee played eighty

1717
01:22:04,587 --> 01:22:07,587
Speaker 2: minutes in both test matches. Seems the coaches appreciate what

1718
01:22:07,707 --> 01:22:10,627
Speaker 2: he brings. Absolutely might totally agree with that. Good to

1719
01:22:10,667 --> 01:22:12,387
Speaker 2: see some of the young blokes go el Sis Barry

1720
01:22:13,067 --> 01:22:15,427
Speaker 2: to Mighty Williams and Sam Dowry. I'd like to see

1721
01:22:15,507 --> 01:22:18,387
Speaker 2: Artie back at seven with Satiti starting at eight. I

1722
01:22:18,547 --> 01:22:20,227
Speaker 2: sort of made that point yesterday. I wonder whether they

1723
01:22:20,467 --> 01:22:23,787
Speaker 2: if that's in their mind at all. Well, Ethan black

1724
01:22:23,787 --> 01:22:25,907
Speaker 2: Aada made a really good fist of the number six

1725
01:22:26,067 --> 01:22:28,667
Speaker 2: jersey last night. I think he probably holds on to that.

1726
01:22:29,827 --> 01:22:31,707
Speaker 2: I just think it would be hard to bring Wallace

1727
01:22:31,747 --> 01:22:34,947
Speaker 2: Atiti in now against South Africa without having played the

1728
01:22:35,027 --> 01:22:38,307
Speaker 2: last two Test matches. Still we'll see, and Craig says

1729
01:22:38,387 --> 01:22:40,627
Speaker 2: finding one of d Max's kicks was one second away

1730
01:22:40,667 --> 01:22:44,987
Speaker 2: from being over time the crowd we're counting down too.

1731
01:22:47,027 --> 01:22:49,907
Speaker 2: Obviously something worked because he's kicked six from six, hasn't he?

1732
01:22:49,947 --> 01:22:52,947
Speaker 2: D Mac After two we're inside the Black Fern's camp

1733
01:22:52,987 --> 01:22:54,507
Speaker 2: with Caitlin va Calall.

1734
01:22:55,507 --> 01:22:59,667
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1735
01:23:00,427 --> 01:23:05,307
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1736
01:23:05,467 --> 01:23:09,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport at Jason Vain on your home of Sports

1737
01:23:09,747 --> 01:23:10,747
Speaker 1: News Talk said.

1738
01:23:10,547 --> 01:23:14,627
Speaker 2: Been two o seven This is weekend Sport, but only

1739
01:23:14,667 --> 01:23:16,627
Speaker 2: for another hour and then we'll hand over to Tim

1740
01:23:16,667 --> 01:23:19,387
Speaker 2: Beveridge for the weekend Collective Sunday edition. Quite a bit

1741
01:23:19,427 --> 01:23:23,067
Speaker 2: to get through between now and three though, just looking

1742
01:23:23,107 --> 01:23:25,267
Speaker 2: at some pictures from Potty to a park in Wellington.

1743
01:23:25,347 --> 01:23:29,667
Speaker 2: The weather is terrible and there's been a special commemoration

1744
01:23:29,867 --> 01:23:33,387
Speaker 2: of the life of Connor Garden borshop can see his dad,

1745
01:23:33,507 --> 01:23:36,787
Speaker 2: former All Black Stephen Bashop there as part of a

1746
01:23:37,027 --> 01:23:39,307
Speaker 2: number of friends in farn Now who have been invited

1747
01:23:39,347 --> 01:23:41,787
Speaker 2: out onto the turf there to pay tribute to their

1748
01:23:41,827 --> 01:23:46,107
Speaker 2: recently fallen son Jackson Garden bashop. Of course, Connor's brother

1749
01:23:46,467 --> 01:23:48,827
Speaker 2: is at first five for Wellington this afternoon. They're taking

1750
01:23:48,907 --> 01:23:53,267
Speaker 2: on Taranaki had a wind and rain swept potty to

1751
01:23:53,347 --> 01:23:55,827
Speaker 2: a park. We'll keep eyes on that for you, as

1752
01:23:55,867 --> 01:23:58,627
Speaker 2: we will on the other NPC match which is going

1753
01:23:58,707 --> 01:24:02,787
Speaker 2: on right now, and I'll just just check who that is.

1754
01:24:03,027 --> 01:24:06,227
Speaker 2: They have bleeding North Harbor of course, how could I

1755
01:24:06,467 --> 01:24:13,387
Speaker 2: forget the Steamers this hour. Caitlin var acrlol is a

1756
01:24:13,507 --> 01:24:18,267
Speaker 2: try scoring sensation for the Black Ferns. Four tries the

1757
01:24:18,347 --> 01:24:21,587
Speaker 2: last time she played in that jersey against Australia. She's

1758
01:24:21,627 --> 01:24:24,107
Speaker 2: been named as one of the traveling squad for the

1759
01:24:24,227 --> 01:24:26,867
Speaker 2: upcoming Test match against England at Twickenham and then the

1760
01:24:27,027 --> 01:24:28,867
Speaker 2: wx F that follows. She's standing by the chat to

1761
01:24:28,947 --> 01:24:31,227
Speaker 2: us Tom Rennie out of the UK, running an eye

1762
01:24:31,267 --> 01:24:34,107
Speaker 2: over the weekend that has been and is still to come.

1763
01:24:34,147 --> 01:24:37,867
Speaker 2: In the Premier League opening weekends, Manchester United starting with

1764
01:24:37,947 --> 01:24:40,227
Speaker 2: a win and it'll keep the United fans happy for

1765
01:24:40,307 --> 01:24:40,587
Speaker 2: a week.

1766
01:24:40,627 --> 01:24:40,987
Speaker 24: At least.

1767
01:24:42,107 --> 01:24:44,147
Speaker 2: Ben keeps on the show too. He breaks a record

1768
01:24:44,187 --> 01:24:46,347
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Our top referee. We'll tell you more about that.

1769
01:24:46,747 --> 01:24:50,307
Speaker 2: Your cause and correspondence continue to be welcomed. Oh eight

1770
01:24:50,427 --> 01:24:52,707
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty nineteen nine to two on

1771
01:24:52,827 --> 01:24:55,467
Speaker 2: text eight past two. As we always do tho old

1772
01:24:55,507 --> 01:24:57,587
Speaker 2: around about this time on weekend sport, it's time to

1773
01:24:57,627 --> 01:25:00,027
Speaker 2: bring you right up to date, to get you across

1774
01:25:00,067 --> 01:25:01,907
Speaker 2: the stuff you've missed. Because there is a lot going on.

1775
01:25:02,467 --> 01:25:06,267
Speaker 2: You can't possibly keep eyes on everything in cashamist it

1776
01:25:06,347 --> 01:25:09,267
Speaker 2: put together by Andy McDonald every Saturday and Sunday. A

1777
01:25:09,387 --> 01:25:14,467
Speaker 2: brand new New Zealand's Dance Master has been crowned in

1778
01:25:14,507 --> 01:25:16,547
Speaker 2: Hamilton last Night Up.

1779
01:25:18,787 --> 01:25:19,907
Speaker 22: The World but the one.

1780
01:25:23,587 --> 01:25:29,587
Speaker 25: Series Weather the very fous child lay cap free, Donalics

1781
01:25:29,907 --> 01:25:30,147
Speaker 25: is the.

1782
01:25:30,267 --> 01:25:35,907
Speaker 2: Fable one and Luke Humphreys winner of the Hamilton Dance Masters.

1783
01:25:36,467 --> 01:25:40,547
Speaker 2: High drama in the NRL as the West Tigers held

1784
01:25:40,627 --> 01:25:43,987
Speaker 2: off a late comeback from the South Sydney Rabbits last

1785
01:25:44,107 --> 01:25:44,827
Speaker 2: Why the.

1786
01:25:44,987 --> 01:25:50,747
Speaker 9: Gate comes down to this, Mamosella, my shut up.

1787
01:25:56,787 --> 01:26:01,987
Speaker 2: Tiger's hober There Tiger's winning eighteen sixteen the ran Fully

1788
01:26:02,107 --> 01:26:10,347
Speaker 2: Shield will regrettably stay in magpiece country. They fought off

1789
01:26:10,347 --> 01:26:12,587
Speaker 2: a stiff challenge from the Stags yesterday picked up.

1790
01:26:12,467 --> 01:26:14,907
Speaker 9: By Walker Lee a Werry give them away too for

1791
01:26:15,107 --> 01:26:18,267
Speaker 9: my for May he's up to within five minutes of

1792
01:26:18,267 --> 01:26:22,347
Speaker 9: a light gives it to White who I scores see old.

1793
01:26:22,227 --> 01:26:25,827
Speaker 2: Say thirty one seventeen the final result there across the ditch.

1794
01:26:26,347 --> 01:26:29,027
Speaker 2: South Africa have line out driven their way to another

1795
01:26:29,067 --> 01:26:30,867
Speaker 2: one over the wallab East, this time out in Perth.

1796
01:26:31,467 --> 01:26:33,067
Speaker 2: Trying to hold them a ransom.

1797
01:26:34,107 --> 01:26:42,507
Speaker 8: It's too powerfully, it's too pliny Pool and.

1798
01:26:42,667 --> 01:26:46,187
Speaker 2: Milk Marts goes in thirty points to twelve the winning

1799
01:26:46,267 --> 01:26:49,787
Speaker 2: margin and finally to the Premier League Liverpool. An impressive

1800
01:26:49,827 --> 01:26:54,267
Speaker 2: start to their post Jurgen klop Era in the Premier League.

1801
01:26:54,307 --> 01:26:59,867
Speaker 25: Alexander Arnold and Salah and Mosalah in for Shutter who

1802
01:26:59,947 --> 01:27:05,787
Speaker 25: doesn't miss this time. Liverpool's first goal scored under the

1803
01:27:05,907 --> 01:27:07,427
Speaker 25: new head coach Arna Slot.

1804
01:27:08,907 --> 01:27:10,907
Speaker 9: Its caressed beyond the.

1805
01:27:10,907 --> 01:27:12,827
Speaker 25: Ipswich keeper by dog shot.

1806
01:27:14,627 --> 01:27:17,227
Speaker 1: The scoot from the track field and the court on

1807
01:27:17,387 --> 01:27:19,387
Speaker 1: your homes Sport weekends for.

1808
01:27:19,507 --> 01:27:20,227
Speaker 14: It with j.

1809
01:27:22,067 --> 01:27:24,427
Speaker 2: Eleven minutes past two, Taranaki, you've opened the scoring in

1810
01:27:24,467 --> 01:27:27,987
Speaker 2: Potty dou scoring a try to Ricky Rickettelli. It's absolutely

1811
01:27:28,187 --> 01:27:32,347
Speaker 2: pelting down in Wellington. I think it's actually wet everywhere where?

1812
01:27:32,467 --> 01:27:35,587
Speaker 2: Is it not wet? Send Send me your weather reports

1813
01:27:35,627 --> 01:27:38,987
Speaker 2: from somewhere with sunshine to text nine two nine two.

1814
01:27:38,987 --> 01:27:41,427
Speaker 2: Don't worry about sending a photo. We can't process those

1815
01:27:41,507 --> 01:27:43,747
Speaker 2: on our computer screen here. But if it is fine

1816
01:27:43,787 --> 01:27:46,507
Speaker 2: where you are in New Zealand, let us know. Ah

1817
01:27:46,667 --> 01:27:48,867
Speaker 2: the Black Ferns their squad has been named for the

1818
01:27:48,947 --> 01:27:51,987
Speaker 2: highly anticipated end of year tour, where they will play

1819
01:27:52,107 --> 01:27:56,107
Speaker 2: England at Twickenham before venturing to Canada for w XV

1820
01:27:56,347 --> 01:28:00,147
Speaker 2: one in September. The squad, of course, includes Blues and

1821
01:28:00,427 --> 01:28:03,427
Speaker 2: Black Ferns. Winger Caitlin Vaha al all.

1822
01:28:03,387 --> 01:28:05,947
Speaker 3: Left end side for the matt left running ball. Vaha

1823
01:28:06,027 --> 01:28:08,867
Speaker 3: call tonight a hat trick before halftime and might come

1824
01:28:08,987 --> 01:28:12,947
Speaker 3: now though she's swerving and she's away. Kaylan Baja.

1825
01:28:15,187 --> 01:28:16,107
Speaker 9: Scored it third.

1826
01:28:16,627 --> 01:28:19,707
Speaker 2: Kaylan Vaha Colo is with us on Weekend Sport. Congratulations

1827
01:28:19,827 --> 01:28:22,427
Speaker 2: Caitlyn on your selection in the squad. How much anticipation

1828
01:28:22,627 --> 01:28:25,867
Speaker 2: is there among the players ahead of what looks to

1829
01:28:25,907 --> 01:28:27,467
Speaker 2: be a very very exciting tour.

1830
01:28:28,387 --> 01:28:31,187
Speaker 10: Thank you so much here, really grateful to have been named.

1831
01:28:31,947 --> 01:28:35,827
Speaker 10: We're very excited to go overseas and I guess show

1832
01:28:35,827 --> 01:28:37,107
Speaker 10: the growth that we've had as a team of this

1833
01:28:37,267 --> 01:28:40,467
Speaker 10: last year but in different years. We lost England last year,

1834
01:28:40,467 --> 01:28:42,387
Speaker 10: so we really want to come into these next few

1835
01:28:42,427 --> 01:28:44,347
Speaker 10: tests firing and yeah, we're really excited.

1836
01:28:44,547 --> 01:28:46,707
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that loss at

1837
01:28:46,707 --> 01:28:48,587
Speaker 2: the back end of last year at Mount Smart thirty

1838
01:28:48,627 --> 01:28:51,427
Speaker 2: three twelve. How much motivation do you have to turn

1839
01:28:51,467 --> 01:28:53,667
Speaker 2: that around when you face England at Twickenham.

1840
01:28:54,987 --> 01:28:57,747
Speaker 10: I mean, nobody likes losing, so obviously there's there's a

1841
01:28:57,827 --> 01:29:00,747
Speaker 10: little bit of hunger that we have to go back

1842
01:29:00,787 --> 01:29:04,147
Speaker 10: and get our revenge, I guess, but this is something

1843
01:29:04,187 --> 01:29:06,107
Speaker 10: we do every day. It's just another rugby game as well,

1844
01:29:06,187 --> 01:29:07,627
Speaker 10: so we're just going to go into it with that

1845
01:29:07,707 --> 01:29:08,387
Speaker 10: same mindset.

1846
01:29:08,867 --> 01:29:11,107
Speaker 2: And yeah, well, let's look at the last time you

1847
01:29:11,147 --> 01:29:14,107
Speaker 2: played for the Black Ferns last month. Four tries and

1848
01:29:14,187 --> 01:29:16,907
Speaker 2: a sixty two nil demolition of Australia that equals the

1849
01:29:16,947 --> 01:29:19,547
Speaker 2: Black Ferns record for most tries and a Test match.

1850
01:29:19,587 --> 01:29:21,227
Speaker 2: What went so well? I looked at the highlights you

1851
01:29:21,267 --> 01:29:23,307
Speaker 2: were amazing. What went so well for you that day?

1852
01:29:24,787 --> 01:29:27,587
Speaker 10: I'm sorry it was actually most tries and Visustralia because

1853
01:29:27,587 --> 01:29:28,267
Speaker 10: porl she has the most.

1854
01:29:28,307 --> 01:29:29,987
Speaker 5: But I what was your question?

1855
01:29:30,267 --> 01:29:32,147
Speaker 2: I just wondered what went so well for you that day.

1856
01:29:34,067 --> 01:29:36,027
Speaker 10: Honestly, I just have the best teammates and they just

1857
01:29:36,107 --> 01:29:38,907
Speaker 10: basically gave me that last tussle, that last kick, and

1858
01:29:38,947 --> 01:29:40,627
Speaker 10: I was able to put the ball over the line.

1859
01:29:41,427 --> 01:29:44,267
Speaker 10: I think over the last few weeks before that game,

1860
01:29:44,587 --> 01:29:47,187
Speaker 10: our coaches had really made us hold each other accountable

1861
01:29:47,227 --> 01:29:48,827
Speaker 10: to our skill set, and I think we were able

1862
01:29:48,907 --> 01:29:51,947
Speaker 10: to transfer that onto the pitch when it came to

1863
01:29:51,987 --> 01:29:55,027
Speaker 10: playing that day. So yeah, it was an exciting one.

1864
01:29:55,707 --> 01:29:57,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, are being a bit modest. You're right, You're on

1865
01:29:57,387 --> 01:29:59,107
Speaker 2: the end of a couple of backline moves, but there

1866
01:29:59,187 --> 01:30:02,267
Speaker 2: was also a gruber kick that you had to chase

1867
01:30:02,307 --> 01:30:04,067
Speaker 2: after and score, and then there was your third try.

1868
01:30:04,467 --> 01:30:06,827
Speaker 2: I reckon, you're about thirty forty meters out the line,

1869
01:30:06,987 --> 01:30:10,187
Speaker 2: ball in two hands, side step. You're playing well, man,

1870
01:30:10,227 --> 01:30:12,067
Speaker 2: you must be stoked with how you're playing.

1871
01:30:13,547 --> 01:30:16,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm definitely becoming more confident, which I think was

1872
01:30:16,427 --> 01:30:18,707
Speaker 10: something I was struggling with last year. So just to

1873
01:30:18,787 --> 01:30:21,467
Speaker 10: be able to play confidently has been my biggest goal,

1874
01:30:21,867 --> 01:30:23,707
Speaker 10: and so yeah, I'm loving what I'm doing at the moment.

1875
01:30:23,907 --> 01:30:25,907
Speaker 2: You did talk about your teammates though, how exciting is

1876
01:30:25,947 --> 01:30:28,787
Speaker 2: it to play outside players like Sylvia brunt Alo I

1877
01:30:28,867 --> 01:30:32,027
Speaker 2: hate Demon Amy Duplas who are very good at creating

1878
01:30:32,427 --> 01:30:34,227
Speaker 2: opportunities for their outsides.

1879
01:30:35,307 --> 01:30:36,147
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're awesome, I.

1880
01:30:36,307 --> 01:30:37,347
Speaker 11: Learn Sylvia have.

1881
01:30:37,427 --> 01:30:39,347
Speaker 10: I've played them since they first started with Auckland Storm,

1882
01:30:39,427 --> 01:30:41,707
Speaker 10: so I love to get begin to care of my friends.

1883
01:30:41,747 --> 01:30:42,827
Speaker 10: I have so much fun with them.

1884
01:30:44,187 --> 01:30:44,467
Speaker 19: Amy.

1885
01:30:44,507 --> 01:30:46,427
Speaker 10: I don't play in a lot of the team to

1886
01:30:46,467 --> 01:30:48,307
Speaker 10: the Black Ferns, but she has such a workhoorse to

1887
01:30:48,427 --> 01:30:50,747
Speaker 10: work greater than amazing, and she just loves to play.

1888
01:30:50,867 --> 01:30:52,947
Speaker 10: So I'm pretty lucky to spare what to learn from them,

1889
01:30:53,267 --> 01:30:54,787
Speaker 10: and just to be able to play on the same

1890
01:30:54,867 --> 01:30:56,707
Speaker 10: level of them as really exciting.

1891
01:30:57,067 --> 01:31:00,267
Speaker 2: And you've got thirteen tries in your last eight test matches,

1892
01:31:00,987 --> 01:31:03,707
Speaker 2: have scored at least one and all of those last eight.

1893
01:31:04,587 --> 01:31:06,947
Speaker 2: Is that a metric that you measure yourself by? Try

1894
01:31:07,027 --> 01:31:09,707
Speaker 2: scoring an important measure of your success.

1895
01:31:12,267 --> 01:31:14,747
Speaker 10: I think for people that watch our games it probably is,

1896
01:31:14,867 --> 01:31:18,547
Speaker 10: But to me not really. I feel like the amount

1897
01:31:18,547 --> 01:31:21,747
Speaker 10: of tries I score won't necessarily represent the kind of

1898
01:31:21,787 --> 01:31:23,947
Speaker 10: player I am, and I don't want it to. I

1899
01:31:23,987 --> 01:31:25,987
Speaker 10: don't want sooring tries to define who I am as

1900
01:31:26,027 --> 01:31:27,747
Speaker 10: ruggy player. I think I'm so much more than that.

1901
01:31:27,867 --> 01:31:32,147
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, well Rugby obviously thought so breakthrough fifteen's

1902
01:31:32,147 --> 01:31:33,907
Speaker 2: Player of the Year at the end of last year.

1903
01:31:33,947 --> 01:31:35,467
Speaker 2: How big an honor was that for you?

1904
01:31:36,747 --> 01:31:39,427
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was very unexpected, I'm going to be honest,

1905
01:31:39,627 --> 01:31:42,147
Speaker 10: but I think that's just a reflection of all the

1906
01:31:42,187 --> 01:31:44,707
Speaker 10: support that's been around me and the amount of people

1907
01:31:44,747 --> 01:31:46,707
Speaker 10: that have believed in me. So I guess I was

1908
01:31:46,747 --> 01:31:48,947
Speaker 10: able to break through because of that. Yeah, but I've

1909
01:31:48,987 --> 01:31:50,067
Speaker 10: obviously felt very honest.

1910
01:31:50,307 --> 01:31:53,707
Speaker 2: You talked before about how you've got a greater confidence

1911
01:31:53,787 --> 01:31:57,747
Speaker 2: now in a black Fern's jersey. What was it like

1912
01:31:57,787 --> 01:31:59,547
Speaker 2: when you didn't have that confidence and why do you

1913
01:31:59,587 --> 01:32:00,187
Speaker 2: think that was.

1914
01:32:02,547 --> 01:32:05,147
Speaker 10: I think I've just been I'm just really hard on myself.

1915
01:32:05,187 --> 01:32:07,507
Speaker 10: I really high standards myself as a revery player, and

1916
01:32:07,547 --> 01:32:09,667
Speaker 10: I really do want to be the best in the world.

1917
01:32:09,787 --> 01:32:12,147
Speaker 10: So last year was my Like, I guess I was

1918
01:32:12,147 --> 01:32:13,747
Speaker 10: a bit of a rookie and I didn't know if

1919
01:32:13,787 --> 01:32:15,787
Speaker 10: I was in the right place. I sometimes felt like

1920
01:32:15,827 --> 01:32:18,867
Speaker 10: I didn't deserve the jersey, but just from the support

1921
01:32:18,907 --> 01:32:21,387
Speaker 10: around me and people constantly reminding me that I'm exactly

1922
01:32:21,427 --> 01:32:23,907
Speaker 10: where I'm meant to be. It's kind of been engraved

1923
01:32:23,947 --> 01:32:25,787
Speaker 10: in my mind that now that I'm exactly where I'm

1924
01:32:25,787 --> 01:32:27,187
Speaker 10: meant to be, and if I believe in my stuff,

1925
01:32:27,227 --> 01:32:29,827
Speaker 10: then I can't play as great as I have been lately.

1926
01:32:29,907 --> 01:32:32,707
Speaker 10: So I think that's been the change for me over

1927
01:32:32,787 --> 01:32:33,387
Speaker 10: this last year.

1928
01:32:33,787 --> 01:32:36,307
Speaker 2: What is the Black Fern's environment like in terms of

1929
01:32:36,387 --> 01:32:38,707
Speaker 2: the support that has wrapped around you when things are

1930
01:32:38,707 --> 01:32:39,947
Speaker 2: going well and even when they're not.

1931
01:32:42,987 --> 01:32:45,387
Speaker 10: I feel like I'm supported in the best way possible way.

1932
01:32:45,387 --> 01:32:49,027
Speaker 10: I feel like everything we need is athlete. The internal

1933
01:32:49,107 --> 01:32:51,507
Speaker 10: management and our coaches try it be best to cater

1934
01:32:51,627 --> 01:32:54,067
Speaker 10: to our needs. I still think we can get paid

1935
01:32:54,067 --> 01:32:55,987
Speaker 10: a bit more, but I know that's a journey. But

1936
01:32:56,067 --> 01:32:58,467
Speaker 10: other than that, I feel like we're very supported in.

1937
01:32:59,147 --> 01:32:59,827
Speaker 21: We're very lucky.

1938
01:32:59,867 --> 01:33:01,627
Speaker 10: I think our past Black Fernds have really paid the

1939
01:33:01,667 --> 01:33:04,347
Speaker 10: way for us to have full time contracts, so you

1940
01:33:04,427 --> 01:33:06,507
Speaker 10: have credit to them and all their hard work so

1941
01:33:06,627 --> 01:33:09,227
Speaker 10: that we, I guess, get to reap all those benefits.

1942
01:33:09,507 --> 01:33:11,947
Speaker 2: Of course, you're a brilliant rugby league player as well,

1943
01:33:12,227 --> 01:33:14,627
Speaker 2: like for the Kiwi Ferns Rugby League World Cup back

1944
01:33:14,667 --> 01:33:16,467
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty two, what got you back to the

1945
01:33:16,507 --> 01:33:17,867
Speaker 2: fifteen a side code.

1946
01:33:20,227 --> 01:33:22,187
Speaker 10: While my first year with Oakland Storm, I had never

1947
01:33:22,267 --> 01:33:24,867
Speaker 10: been in such a welcoming environment and I just feel

1948
01:33:24,907 --> 01:33:28,307
Speaker 10: like after that, after that campaign, I really wanted to

1949
01:33:28,387 --> 01:33:32,227
Speaker 10: keep playing with those same people. And I think in

1950
01:33:32,307 --> 01:33:34,947
Speaker 10: New Zealand there's not as much support around resources for

1951
01:33:35,027 --> 01:33:37,107
Speaker 10: female sport, especially within rugby league.

1952
01:33:37,147 --> 01:33:37,747
Speaker 13: Like for the league.

1953
01:33:37,747 --> 01:33:41,067
Speaker 10: Sorry, so we don't have FULLI contracts for rugby league

1954
01:33:41,067 --> 01:33:43,027
Speaker 10: players here. The girls have to move over to Australia

1955
01:33:43,107 --> 01:33:46,747
Speaker 10: to get proper opportunities and so it's awesome that the

1956
01:33:46,787 --> 01:33:48,947
Speaker 10: Worries have a team next year, which means girls can

1957
01:33:48,987 --> 01:33:52,347
Speaker 10: stay home. But for me, I'm looking at my future

1958
01:33:52,387 --> 01:33:54,267
Speaker 10: life and what I want to have as a career

1959
01:33:54,267 --> 01:33:55,747
Speaker 10: and I don't want to be a part time I said,

1960
01:33:55,747 --> 01:33:57,747
Speaker 10: I want to be a full time athlete, so which

1961
01:33:57,787 --> 01:34:00,107
Speaker 10: is what Black Germs is offering, which I'm very lucky

1962
01:34:00,147 --> 01:34:00,307
Speaker 10: to have.

1963
01:34:00,547 --> 01:34:03,187
Speaker 2: So you so if an opportunity ever came up in

1964
01:34:03,227 --> 01:34:05,547
Speaker 2: the future, I mean, could you ever see yourself going

1965
01:34:05,627 --> 01:34:07,907
Speaker 2: back to a rugby league in the NRLW.

1966
01:34:09,747 --> 01:34:12,587
Speaker 10: I don't know. My focus right now is my rugby

1967
01:34:12,707 --> 01:34:14,267
Speaker 10: and trying to make the World Cup team. That's my

1968
01:34:14,347 --> 01:34:17,107
Speaker 10: only focus in serving this Black Link team as best

1969
01:34:17,107 --> 01:34:19,547
Speaker 10: as I can. So I haven't really been thinking about Lee,

1970
01:34:19,707 --> 01:34:22,507
Speaker 10: to be honest, but who knows what the future holds.

1971
01:34:22,547 --> 01:34:24,707
Speaker 10: But who Now, I'm fully focused on this team.

1972
01:34:25,107 --> 01:34:25,467
Speaker 6: Good time.

1973
01:34:25,507 --> 01:34:27,027
Speaker 2: You just don't need to decide now, you don't have

1974
01:34:27,107 --> 01:34:31,867
Speaker 2: to decide to die you about plague you. The other

1975
01:34:31,947 --> 01:34:34,427
Speaker 2: thing I love, Caitlan is your social media content. Your

1976
01:34:34,507 --> 01:34:38,107
Speaker 2: Instagram is just full of happiness and light and positivity.

1977
01:34:38,867 --> 01:34:42,427
Speaker 2: How keen are you to use your platform for good?

1978
01:34:45,387 --> 01:34:47,307
Speaker 10: I never want to feel like it's obligation. I think

1979
01:34:47,347 --> 01:34:49,507
Speaker 10: when you have a big platform, you sometimes feel like

1980
01:34:49,587 --> 01:34:52,267
Speaker 10: you have to be the super positive and happy person.

1981
01:34:52,387 --> 01:34:53,987
Speaker 10: But I think I just want to be someone that's

1982
01:34:54,027 --> 01:34:56,107
Speaker 10: relatable and I want I guess if I want it

1983
01:34:56,147 --> 01:34:57,907
Speaker 10: to be anything. I want to be an advocate of

1984
01:34:57,987 --> 01:35:00,747
Speaker 10: encouragement to young people that see my social media and

1985
01:35:00,747 --> 01:35:02,907
Speaker 10: they see that I'm expressive and that I'm trying to

1986
01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:06,867
Speaker 10: be just be myself, that they can go and in

1987
01:35:06,947 --> 01:35:10,067
Speaker 10: pathways that I'm at the moment too, So don't. I

1988
01:35:10,107 --> 01:35:12,187
Speaker 10: don't want to ever feel like I'm obligated to be

1989
01:35:12,867 --> 01:35:14,867
Speaker 10: like that. But I just love to be happy. I

1990
01:35:14,947 --> 01:35:16,907
Speaker 10: love to share joy and if that comes across on

1991
01:35:16,947 --> 01:35:18,347
Speaker 10: my social media. Then that's a good thing.

1992
01:35:18,387 --> 01:35:21,507
Speaker 2: I guess it comes across as authentic, though it doesn't

1993
01:35:21,547 --> 01:35:24,147
Speaker 2: come across as though you're forcing yourself to put a

1994
01:35:24,187 --> 01:35:27,227
Speaker 2: smile on and put a photo up. Because authenticity, your

1995
01:35:27,227 --> 01:35:29,347
Speaker 2: authenticity is important to isn't it? And being real?

1996
01:35:30,867 --> 01:35:34,027
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do think it is. I think that it's

1997
01:35:34,067 --> 01:35:36,347
Speaker 10: important to share your struggles. It's important to share the

1998
01:35:36,427 --> 01:35:38,747
Speaker 10: things that I guess don't necessarily look that great on

1999
01:35:38,827 --> 01:35:42,347
Speaker 10: social media, but if maybe if I'm sharing that, then

2000
01:35:42,347 --> 01:35:45,547
Speaker 10: people will feel less alone. And so yeah, that's probably

2001
01:35:45,587 --> 01:35:47,307
Speaker 10: why I'm sort of open on social media.

2002
01:35:47,587 --> 01:35:50,187
Speaker 2: Awesome, And just to finish, back to back to the

2003
01:35:50,267 --> 01:35:52,867
Speaker 2: black Ferns and your next your next point of business.

2004
01:35:52,907 --> 01:35:54,587
Speaker 2: Have you thought about what it'll be like running out

2005
01:35:54,867 --> 01:35:56,627
Speaker 2: if you get the opportunity, obviously running out of to

2006
01:35:56,667 --> 01:35:58,947
Speaker 2: sold out twicken them to face England.

2007
01:36:00,467 --> 01:36:03,107
Speaker 10: I have never been in a crowd where I can't

2008
01:36:03,107 --> 01:36:05,907
Speaker 10: hear my teammates, but my my my friends in the

2009
01:36:05,947 --> 01:36:08,027
Speaker 10: black telling me that what it's going to be like,

2010
01:36:08,307 --> 01:36:10,787
Speaker 10: and apparently it could be like a world record breaking audience.

2011
01:36:11,787 --> 01:36:14,227
Speaker 10: So I guess there is a little bit of nervousness

2012
01:36:14,667 --> 01:36:17,307
Speaker 10: if I get slicked to play. But like I said

2013
01:36:17,347 --> 01:36:19,667
Speaker 10: at the start, rugby is I do this every day,

2014
01:36:19,707 --> 01:36:20,947
Speaker 10: so it's just the same thing. We just have a

2015
01:36:20,987 --> 01:36:22,467
Speaker 10: crowd around us that's only different.

2016
01:36:22,787 --> 01:36:25,147
Speaker 2: So yeah, such an exciting squad that you're part of

2017
01:36:25,267 --> 01:36:28,707
Speaker 2: for these back end of the internationals. Kaitlin, travel safe,

2018
01:36:28,827 --> 01:36:32,147
Speaker 2: all the best and yeah, we all just can't wait

2019
01:36:32,147 --> 01:36:34,587
Speaker 2: to see how it plays out for you at Twickenham

2020
01:36:34,947 --> 01:36:36,707
Speaker 2: in September. Thanks for taking the time for a chat.

2021
01:36:37,747 --> 01:36:38,547
Speaker 10: Thank you so much.

2022
01:36:38,787 --> 01:36:42,747
Speaker 2: Thanks Kaitlyn, Caitlin for call on there. Yeah, try scoring machine.

2023
01:36:43,707 --> 01:36:47,347
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on her. She will, I think, become

2024
01:36:47,467 --> 01:36:49,667
Speaker 2: what Porsha Woodman has been in that team. She just

2025
01:36:49,747 --> 01:36:53,347
Speaker 2: seems like a very special player, very special player. Indeed,

2026
01:36:53,387 --> 01:36:55,467
Speaker 2: we'll look forward to seeing how they go against England

2027
01:36:55,507 --> 01:36:58,267
Speaker 2: at twicken and big challenge there coming to tweety. Okay,

2028
01:36:58,667 --> 01:37:01,947
Speaker 2: I asked where it wasn't raining. Okay, here we go,

2029
01:37:02,027 --> 01:37:03,987
Speaker 2: hot and windy and hawks by today. Jason, thank you,

2030
01:37:04,107 --> 01:37:07,147
Speaker 2: Sonny and Woodland's Southland. Hi, Jason's only in Denedin, but

2031
01:37:07,187 --> 01:37:09,267
Speaker 2: clouding over now, but no rain or wind, says Kate.

2032
01:37:09,507 --> 01:37:11,947
Speaker 2: Old Erna says fine here in Mosgeel, fine with some

2033
01:37:12,067 --> 01:37:15,667
Speaker 2: cloud and Napier, Hastings twenty degrees earlier. Beautiful, says Brendan Piney.

2034
01:37:15,667 --> 01:37:19,187
Speaker 2: He's been to Ocean Beach near Hastings ran fully Shield Territory.

2035
01:37:19,187 --> 01:37:22,227
Speaker 2: All right, calm down, sunshine, Sunbay. There's swimmers getting breezy

2036
01:37:22,267 --> 01:37:25,787
Speaker 2: but still warm and dry, thank you, Graham. Sunny but windy,

2037
01:37:25,867 --> 01:37:28,747
Speaker 2: and Gisbon fine. Hot and windy in Napier, says John

2038
01:37:29,107 --> 01:37:31,027
Speaker 2: a mind day, and in the cargo says Hemi's just

2039
01:37:31,067 --> 01:37:34,467
Speaker 2: been out orient tearing, nice work, fine and sunny. Gisbon

2040
01:37:34,587 --> 01:37:37,947
Speaker 2: very windy though nineteen degrees sunshine at Marsden Point. No

2041
01:37:38,187 --> 01:37:41,507
Speaker 2: rain in Cromwell sonny in Hawk's Bay, only now clouding over.

2042
01:37:41,587 --> 01:37:43,867
Speaker 2: You can't beat it. Beautiful day and Gisbon fine Here

2043
01:37:43,947 --> 01:37:46,947
Speaker 2: in Matuta at the moment, says Cath Cloudy with the

2044
01:37:47,067 --> 01:37:52,307
Speaker 2: sun shining in Mattoda, and I think that's it. I'm

2045
01:37:52,347 --> 01:37:54,227
Speaker 2: looking at a TV screen with wellings and on it.

2046
01:37:54,387 --> 01:37:57,227
Speaker 2: Terrible and he's been watching the Farah par mcupp in

2047
01:37:57,307 --> 01:38:01,147
Speaker 2: christ Church terrible. Not that nice here in Auckland, unfortunately,

2048
01:38:01,307 --> 01:38:03,067
Speaker 2: but good to know that around the country there are

2049
01:38:03,147 --> 01:38:07,027
Speaker 2: parts of our population who are enjoying the I've just

2050
01:38:07,067 --> 01:38:09,267
Speaker 2: got Southland and Hawk's Bay. From that report, I think

2051
01:38:09,307 --> 01:38:12,547
Speaker 2: you're right well. Enjoy Enjoy guys Southland and Hawks Bay.

2052
01:38:12,867 --> 01:38:15,987
Speaker 2: You have the best of the weather today to twenty two,

2053
01:38:16,107 --> 01:38:19,067
Speaker 2: we're after the UK shortly a look at the Premier League,

2054
01:38:19,067 --> 01:38:22,107
Speaker 2: which has been well been underweight, is underway the first

2055
01:38:22,187 --> 01:38:24,147
Speaker 2: round of the new Premier League season across the weekend.

2056
01:38:24,227 --> 01:38:26,987
Speaker 2: Some teams have played, some teams yet to play. So

2057
01:38:27,267 --> 01:38:31,067
Speaker 2: can anybody knock Manchester City off their perch? Tom Rennie

2058
01:38:31,267 --> 01:38:33,147
Speaker 2: out of talkSPORT in the UK after this.

2059
01:38:33,987 --> 01:38:35,827
Speaker 6: It's more than just a game.

2060
01:38:36,187 --> 01:38:40,267
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Bene and TJ Gardner Homes New

2061
01:38:40,387 --> 01:38:42,507
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News.

2062
01:38:42,387 --> 01:38:45,147
Speaker 2: Talks and b two twenty five Chris Wood has scored

2063
01:38:45,147 --> 01:38:47,827
Speaker 2: a goal on the opening weekend of the Premier League season.

2064
01:38:48,107 --> 01:38:49,987
Speaker 9: Here they are really costive and long. It gets it

2065
01:38:50,067 --> 01:38:51,587
Speaker 9: back from Wood yet.

2066
01:39:00,507 --> 01:39:02,027
Speaker 26: Noting a forest in.

2067
01:39:02,107 --> 01:39:06,667
Speaker 2: The incredible Chris Wood has now scored in nine Premier

2068
01:39:06,747 --> 01:39:09,027
Speaker 2: League seasons. He has more Premier League goals, as I

2069
01:39:09,067 --> 01:39:11,347
Speaker 2: mentioned to James mcconey a little while ago, than ear

2070
01:39:11,427 --> 01:39:13,987
Speaker 2: Ack Kentona and a host of other big stars. Just

2071
01:39:14,107 --> 01:39:17,427
Speaker 2: continues to produce the Goods, Chris Wood, Nottingham Forest one,

2072
01:39:17,707 --> 01:39:21,187
Speaker 2: Bournemouth one. Let's bring in talkSPORT commentator Tom Renneye to

2073
01:39:21,267 --> 01:39:23,027
Speaker 2: run an eye over some of the other matches. Can

2074
01:39:23,107 --> 01:39:25,147
Speaker 2: we start with the very first match of the season, Tom,

2075
01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:29,227
Speaker 2: which you covered Manchester United one nil winners over Fulham.

2076
01:39:29,587 --> 01:39:33,667
Speaker 2: They were eighth last season Manchester United. Anything to suggest

2077
01:39:33,747 --> 01:39:36,067
Speaker 2: that they'll challenge for I don't know, the top four

2078
01:39:36,507 --> 01:39:37,187
Speaker 2: or even higher.

2079
01:39:37,947 --> 01:39:40,427
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't go any higher. Let's not go wild

2080
01:39:40,547 --> 01:39:43,667
Speaker 9: on the first weekend of the season. But do you know,

2081
01:39:44,427 --> 01:39:46,547
Speaker 9: I think most of us are surprised that Ericton harg

2082
01:39:46,667 --> 01:39:49,387
Speaker 9: is still there, right. I think that the season was

2083
01:39:49,627 --> 01:39:51,827
Speaker 9: pretty poor in the league, but then they put in

2084
01:39:51,867 --> 01:39:54,587
Speaker 9: an all time great performance to my mind against man

2085
01:39:54,667 --> 01:39:57,347
Speaker 9: City in the FA Cup Final. Not many people beat

2086
01:39:57,427 --> 01:40:00,987
Speaker 9: man City and they did, and on the balance of it,

2087
01:40:01,107 --> 01:40:03,107
Speaker 9: I think it's fair that he gets another shot. Ericton

2088
01:40:03,147 --> 01:40:06,387
Speaker 9: Hall two seasons, two trophies, not too shabby. And you

2089
01:40:06,427 --> 01:40:08,507
Speaker 9: know they've not won the Premier League's in Alex Ferguson

2090
01:40:08,507 --> 01:40:10,227
Speaker 9: and all of that, so you've got to take all

2091
01:40:10,307 --> 01:40:12,747
Speaker 9: this success is relative and I think during the summer,

2092
01:40:13,347 --> 01:40:15,187
Speaker 9: no euro at the moment but I think you'll be good.

2093
01:40:15,307 --> 01:40:17,187
Speaker 9: De Lickt wasn't fit enough to start, but he's going

2094
01:40:17,267 --> 01:40:19,907
Speaker 9: to come good. Xerxy is scoring the winning goal. He's

2095
01:40:19,947 --> 01:40:21,987
Speaker 9: going to come good. I think there's lots of positives

2096
01:40:22,027 --> 01:40:25,947
Speaker 9: about Manchester United. Look, the performance against Fulham wasn't great,

2097
01:40:26,187 --> 01:40:30,707
Speaker 9: It wasn't fully coherent, it wasn't as good as they're

2098
01:40:30,707 --> 01:40:33,307
Speaker 9: going to be. But if there's one thing the opening

2099
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:35,747
Speaker 9: weekend of the football season will teach you is that

2100
01:40:35,867 --> 01:40:38,307
Speaker 9: we're not in a position now to talk about performance.

2101
01:40:38,387 --> 01:40:40,627
Speaker 9: We're not in a position to talk about development. What

2102
01:40:40,827 --> 01:40:44,427
Speaker 9: matters is you get that first win by a hook

2103
01:40:44,627 --> 01:40:46,947
Speaker 9: or by crook. If you get it, there is your

2104
01:40:47,027 --> 01:40:51,027
Speaker 9: foundational stone for this season. Next week, there's an away game,

2105
01:40:51,107 --> 01:40:53,027
Speaker 9: next week, another home game. If you get to five

2106
01:40:53,107 --> 01:40:55,747
Speaker 9: games in and you've not won, and your bottom of

2107
01:40:55,787 --> 01:40:58,667
Speaker 9: the league with a minor six goal difference, you may

2108
01:40:58,747 --> 01:41:01,307
Speaker 9: well not finish there. You likely won't finish there if

2109
01:41:01,307 --> 01:41:04,227
Speaker 9: you're Man United or even you know, Newcastle Villa, west

2110
01:41:04,267 --> 01:41:06,747
Speaker 9: Ham or whatever, the mid table, never mind the upper table.

2111
01:41:07,667 --> 01:41:10,387
Speaker 9: If you're in that position, everyone on start to panic.

2112
01:41:10,547 --> 01:41:13,747
Speaker 9: The season will fill doomed and it's very hard to recover.

2113
01:41:13,867 --> 01:41:14,107
Speaker 6: From that.

2114
01:41:14,347 --> 01:41:16,827
Speaker 9: So they got the win and that's all that matters.

2115
01:41:16,907 --> 01:41:18,307
Speaker 2: Well, let's look at a couple of other teams that

2116
01:41:18,387 --> 01:41:21,187
Speaker 2: did exactly that as well. Arsenal sickon to City in

2117
01:41:21,227 --> 01:41:24,227
Speaker 2: the last two seasons two at home over Wolves. Could

2118
01:41:24,267 --> 01:41:26,787
Speaker 2: they take that next step Arsenal this season.

2119
01:41:28,267 --> 01:41:30,467
Speaker 9: I mean, the issues are too far with Arsenal. Number

2120
01:41:30,507 --> 01:41:32,507
Speaker 9: one is that the average to win the Premier League

2121
01:41:32,547 --> 01:41:35,987
Speaker 9: across the thirty seasons there's been is around eighty four

2122
01:41:36,067 --> 01:41:39,987
Speaker 9: to eighty five points. Manchester City have made that average ninety,

2123
01:41:40,507 --> 01:41:42,387
Speaker 9: so you have to get ninety points to win the

2124
01:41:42,427 --> 01:41:45,867
Speaker 9: Premier League. Now, man City have raised the standards and Arsenal,

2125
01:41:45,907 --> 01:41:47,867
Speaker 9: though great for two seasons, have not been able to

2126
01:41:47,947 --> 01:41:50,627
Speaker 9: meet those standards. They face City quite soon in the

2127
01:41:50,667 --> 01:41:53,507
Speaker 9: opening few weeks of the season. To win the Premier League,

2128
01:41:53,907 --> 01:41:57,987
Speaker 9: they have to beat Manchester City twice. That has to happen.

2129
01:41:58,747 --> 01:42:01,387
Speaker 9: It's Rick Flair, right, to be the man, You've got

2130
01:42:01,467 --> 01:42:04,067
Speaker 9: to beat the man. That is what it is with Arsenal.

2131
01:42:04,227 --> 01:42:06,787
Speaker 9: So I think it all comes down to those meetings

2132
01:42:07,107 --> 01:42:08,947
Speaker 9: with man City coming up one of the first few

2133
01:42:08,987 --> 01:42:12,507
Speaker 9: weeks on the opening day against Wolves, they weren't amazing.

2134
01:42:12,707 --> 01:42:15,267
Speaker 9: It's got to be said. They weren't at their absolute best.

2135
01:42:15,347 --> 01:42:17,667
Speaker 9: That can rise have just come back from being away,

2136
01:42:18,107 --> 01:42:20,747
Speaker 9: barely played and trained during the summer. Same with the

2137
01:42:20,827 --> 01:42:24,947
Speaker 9: Kayasakrus scored the second goal, so again get the job done.

2138
01:42:25,147 --> 01:42:27,747
Speaker 9: Were they spectacular, No, but they were certainly solid. I

2139
01:42:27,827 --> 01:42:30,187
Speaker 9: will say that with the transfer window being open, looking

2140
01:42:30,187 --> 01:42:33,547
Speaker 9: at the Arsenal team on Saturday, not a great deal

2141
01:42:33,587 --> 01:42:36,587
Speaker 9: of change has happened. And I think even though it's

2142
01:42:36,627 --> 01:42:39,587
Speaker 9: called ninety plus goals last season, last season, I'd still

2143
01:42:39,587 --> 01:42:42,507
Speaker 9: be looking for that goalscorer who can take that chance

2144
01:42:42,667 --> 01:42:44,867
Speaker 9: in that game to get them over the line, because

2145
01:42:44,867 --> 01:42:49,627
Speaker 9: again the standards are ridiculously high. So look, can they

2146
01:42:49,707 --> 01:42:49,907
Speaker 9: do it?

2147
01:42:50,347 --> 01:42:51,667
Speaker 6: Yes? Will they do it?

2148
01:42:51,907 --> 01:42:53,227
Speaker 9: I'd still sit in the camp of no.

2149
01:42:53,947 --> 01:42:57,227
Speaker 2: West Ham one, Eston Villa two, Villa fourth last season

2150
01:42:57,267 --> 01:42:59,507
Speaker 2: you cover this game? Was this encouraging from Eston Villa?

2151
01:43:01,227 --> 01:43:01,707
Speaker 8: Yeah it was?

2152
01:43:01,987 --> 01:43:02,107
Speaker 1: You know.

2153
01:43:02,387 --> 01:43:04,587
Speaker 9: I followed a couple of Villa games during pre season.

2154
01:43:04,747 --> 01:43:07,547
Speaker 9: They lost the match against Columbus Crew in Ohio. They

2155
01:43:07,627 --> 01:43:09,427
Speaker 9: didn't really look like they were in the best of

2156
01:43:09,547 --> 01:43:11,987
Speaker 9: shape during their US tour, But I'll tell you what

2157
01:43:12,107 --> 01:43:13,947
Speaker 9: they looked like the team of last season. They just

2158
01:43:14,067 --> 01:43:17,187
Speaker 9: continued from where last season left off. I know there

2159
01:43:17,187 --> 01:43:18,947
Speaker 9: were some poor results back end of last season, but

2160
01:43:19,027 --> 01:43:21,707
Speaker 9: the macro of the campaign was fantastic and you could

2161
01:43:21,747 --> 01:43:24,147
Speaker 9: see they looked a lot more settled then west Ham

2162
01:43:24,227 --> 01:43:27,387
Speaker 9: in this game with John McGee was fantastically on. Bailey

2163
01:43:27,427 --> 01:43:33,107
Speaker 9: had a great game defensively strong, offensively, impressive and fitting.

2164
01:43:33,187 --> 01:43:35,307
Speaker 9: Really that John Duran, who was almost begging for a

2165
01:43:35,387 --> 01:43:37,587
Speaker 9: move to west Ham a couple of weeks ago. He

2166
01:43:37,747 --> 01:43:40,787
Speaker 9: was on Instagram live doing west Ham symbols to west

2167
01:43:40,827 --> 01:43:43,427
Speaker 9: Ham fans because he thought he was being sold, comes

2168
01:43:43,467 --> 01:43:46,027
Speaker 9: on for Villa and scores the winning goal away at

2169
01:43:46,067 --> 01:43:48,027
Speaker 9: west Ham. One of the most fitting things you're going

2170
01:43:48,107 --> 01:43:50,987
Speaker 9: to see in football weather. But look, I think Villa.

2171
01:43:51,547 --> 01:43:53,467
Speaker 9: The issue with Villa is that they've got a great

2172
01:43:53,507 --> 01:43:56,067
Speaker 9: manager and a really good team. The issue is they're

2173
01:43:56,067 --> 01:43:58,067
Speaker 9: in this new Champions League. First, they have a Champions

2174
01:43:58,107 --> 01:44:00,667
Speaker 9: League campaign. There are eight group games. That is going

2175
01:44:00,747 --> 01:44:04,587
Speaker 9: to be a killer come December, come February four Villa,

2176
01:44:04,747 --> 01:44:07,427
Speaker 9: unless they had some more players, they really are one

2177
01:44:07,467 --> 01:44:09,427
Speaker 9: of the great teams we will find out. And on

2178
01:44:09,507 --> 01:44:11,427
Speaker 9: the flip side with west Ham, you know four and

2179
01:44:11,467 --> 01:44:13,627
Speaker 9: a half years of David moy is a very very

2180
01:44:13,707 --> 01:44:16,107
Speaker 9: long time and they looked like they were trying one

2181
01:44:16,187 --> 01:44:18,507
Speaker 9: or two new things today. There were new players coming in.

2182
01:44:18,787 --> 01:44:21,787
Speaker 9: I think Riquez was very poor, but he's a good player.

2183
01:44:22,107 --> 01:44:24,267
Speaker 9: Nicholas ful Krug not fit enough to start. He is

2184
01:44:24,467 --> 01:44:26,747
Speaker 9: a brilliant signing for west Ham. I think he'll come good.

2185
01:44:27,187 --> 01:44:29,387
Speaker 9: You know, they went to west Ham at a really

2186
01:44:29,427 --> 01:44:31,307
Speaker 9: good time and in the end, Thomas sochik this is

2187
01:44:31,307 --> 01:44:33,707
Speaker 9: an open goal. It probably should be too too. So

2188
01:44:34,227 --> 01:44:36,227
Speaker 9: I think that there's good science for Villa, but I

2189
01:44:36,307 --> 01:44:38,907
Speaker 9: don't see them requalifying for top four and I think

2190
01:44:38,987 --> 01:44:41,387
Speaker 9: west Ham are going to take ten games. I think

2191
01:44:41,427 --> 01:44:44,027
Speaker 9: it's not fair to judge them until we get to

2192
01:44:45,307 --> 01:44:45,987
Speaker 9: end of October.

2193
01:44:46,067 --> 01:44:46,427
Speaker 6: Probably.

2194
01:44:46,907 --> 01:44:49,627
Speaker 2: Premier League football returned to Portman Road after a twenty

2195
01:44:49,707 --> 01:44:52,347
Speaker 2: two year ebsence. Wonderful scenes there Episwich though, going down

2196
01:44:52,387 --> 01:44:54,547
Speaker 2: to Neil to Liverpool, you talking about teams needing to

2197
01:44:54,627 --> 01:44:56,707
Speaker 2: get off to a winning start. New Liverpool boss Anna

2198
01:44:56,747 --> 01:45:00,507
Speaker 2: Slot just needed the win, didn't he Impressive from Liverpool

2199
01:45:00,507 --> 01:45:01,227
Speaker 2: and impressive enough.

2200
01:45:02,787 --> 01:45:04,947
Speaker 9: No, I wouldn't say impressive. I think you make the

2201
01:45:04,987 --> 01:45:07,107
Speaker 9: point and you're absolutely right. I keep saying it too.

2202
01:45:07,387 --> 01:45:10,787
Speaker 9: In this conversation first weekend. Just get the points on

2203
01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:13,867
Speaker 9: the board. Liverpool going to get better. Liverpool is going

2204
01:45:13,947 --> 01:45:16,147
Speaker 9: to learn how to play under Arnes slot. And look

2205
01:45:16,187 --> 01:45:20,547
Speaker 9: they had a really interesting assignment today because ipswich a

2206
01:45:20,587 --> 01:45:22,587
Speaker 9: bit like the other two promoted sides. They're going to

2207
01:45:22,627 --> 01:45:24,867
Speaker 9: struggle for thirty points. Right, It's going to be really

2208
01:45:24,907 --> 01:45:27,107
Speaker 9: difficult to stay up in the Premier League for those teams,

2209
01:45:27,387 --> 01:45:29,907
Speaker 9: and it's going to become increasingly more difficult when even

2210
01:45:29,947 --> 01:45:32,307
Speaker 9: the likes of Brighton can now spend one hundred and

2211
01:45:32,347 --> 01:45:34,467
Speaker 9: twenty to one hundred and fifty million pounds on players.

2212
01:45:34,827 --> 01:45:37,227
Speaker 9: It's so hard to catch up. Every point is going

2213
01:45:37,267 --> 01:45:40,947
Speaker 9: to be vital. But that first home game a great bounce,

2214
01:45:41,027 --> 01:45:43,547
Speaker 9: great energy about Portman Road. As you say, twenty two

2215
01:45:43,707 --> 01:45:46,107
Speaker 9: years since they were last in this league. So it

2216
01:45:46,187 --> 01:45:48,707
Speaker 9: was a tough one. But Liverpool just went through the gears.

2217
01:45:48,987 --> 01:45:50,907
Speaker 9: And they've got most Sala who always seems to score

2218
01:45:50,947 --> 01:45:53,947
Speaker 9: an open day. They've got McAlister, the Sabba Slie looks

2219
01:45:54,027 --> 01:45:56,907
Speaker 9: like he's fit. They've got Diogo Jotta for as long

2220
01:45:56,947 --> 01:45:59,987
Speaker 9: as he stays fit, they'll score goals. They can make

2221
01:46:00,107 --> 01:46:04,067
Speaker 9: changes with quality coming off the bench, so they would improve.

2222
01:46:04,147 --> 01:46:05,947
Speaker 9: I think they made a couple of signings, they'll becoming

2223
01:46:05,987 --> 01:46:08,587
Speaker 9: honest team. I think they may be pressed higher than

2224
01:46:08,627 --> 01:46:11,107
Speaker 9: we've seen in the last couple of years and played slightly,

2225
01:46:11,987 --> 01:46:14,147
Speaker 9: not recklessly, I think that's the wrong word, but there'll

2226
01:46:14,147 --> 01:46:16,667
Speaker 9: be a bit more cavalionis to Liverpool by the look

2227
01:46:16,707 --> 01:46:18,827
Speaker 9: at what we saw today. But yeah, look, it's not

2228
01:46:18,867 --> 01:46:21,227
Speaker 9: an honest lot team yet. We're weeks and weeks away.

2229
01:46:21,227 --> 01:46:23,187
Speaker 9: A bit like West Ham, a bit like Man United.

2230
01:46:23,547 --> 01:46:26,307
Speaker 9: I'd wait till week twelve, week thirteen to really get

2231
01:46:26,347 --> 01:46:28,067
Speaker 9: a beat on this team because they are going to

2232
01:46:28,107 --> 01:46:28,547
Speaker 9: be different.

2233
01:46:28,747 --> 01:46:30,587
Speaker 2: All right, quick, look a here, Tom, It's okay. Four

2234
01:46:30,627 --> 01:46:33,827
Speaker 2: time defending champions Man City lives at Chelsea tomorrow, game

2235
01:46:33,827 --> 01:46:36,387
Speaker 2: of the round probably. How are City placed fourth? I

2236
01:46:36,427 --> 01:46:39,947
Speaker 2: can't even believe I'm saying this an unprecedented fifth title

2237
01:46:39,987 --> 01:46:40,387
Speaker 2: in a row.

2238
01:46:41,427 --> 01:46:42,467
Speaker 22: You know, City are.

2239
01:46:42,467 --> 01:46:45,507
Speaker 9: Probably as interesting right now as there've been at any

2240
01:46:45,507 --> 01:46:47,427
Speaker 9: point in the last four or five years. You know,

2241
01:46:47,507 --> 01:46:50,187
Speaker 9: I'm bored of them. I find them tedious to watch

2242
01:46:50,387 --> 01:46:52,427
Speaker 9: and I would like Guardiola to leave. You know, I'm

2243
01:46:52,467 --> 01:46:54,667
Speaker 9: happy to accept he's the greatest coach of all time

2244
01:46:54,987 --> 01:46:57,747
Speaker 9: with a stacked squad, and he's too good for us.

2245
01:46:58,147 --> 01:47:00,547
Speaker 9: He's just too good. He's too good. They're too good.

2246
01:47:01,427 --> 01:47:04,627
Speaker 9: Take the Golden Premier League Trophy, take the belt, retire

2247
01:47:04,707 --> 01:47:07,147
Speaker 9: it whatever, just go and don't come back, because you're

2248
01:47:07,187 --> 01:47:09,747
Speaker 9: kind of killing it in many ways that he's the

2249
01:47:09,867 --> 01:47:13,307
Speaker 9: greatest coach ever, right, Fine, take the badge. The issues

2250
01:47:13,747 --> 01:47:15,707
Speaker 9: which make them interesting for me is that, a this

2251
01:47:15,827 --> 01:47:19,147
Speaker 9: is likely to be Guardiola's last season. I think he's

2252
01:47:19,227 --> 01:47:21,787
Speaker 9: intimated several times he isn't going to renew an extend

2253
01:47:21,827 --> 01:47:24,667
Speaker 9: and that'll be like a decade at city. That feels

2254
01:47:24,707 --> 01:47:27,067
Speaker 9: like it's probably enough for everybody involved. There are players

2255
01:47:27,107 --> 01:47:30,067
Speaker 9: like Julian Alvarezo has left, as others have left saying

2256
01:47:30,107 --> 01:47:34,307
Speaker 9: they can't continue to work at this intensity, and you

2257
01:47:34,347 --> 01:47:36,547
Speaker 9: know rahiem Sterling and one or two others. You look

2258
01:47:36,587 --> 01:47:39,427
Speaker 9: at this golden generation of players. Kevin de Burner is

2259
01:47:39,427 --> 01:47:42,587
Speaker 9: getting old, Walker is getting old, John Stone is getting old.

2260
01:47:42,907 --> 01:47:45,307
Speaker 9: They're going to need to do a huge rejuvenation coming

2261
01:47:45,387 --> 01:47:48,587
Speaker 9: up in the next couple of years. And then of

2262
01:47:48,667 --> 01:47:50,987
Speaker 9: course in September the hearings about one hundred and fifteen

2263
01:47:51,067 --> 01:47:53,707
Speaker 9: charges start and then after we've had the hearings and

2264
01:47:53,787 --> 01:47:56,267
Speaker 9: there is a resolution in one way or the other.

2265
01:47:56,867 --> 01:47:59,987
Speaker 9: You can bet your last dollar that city are going

2266
01:48:00,067 --> 01:48:03,227
Speaker 9: to appeal and appeal and appeal and appeal again, and

2267
01:48:03,307 --> 01:48:05,507
Speaker 9: we are going to be stuck in courtroom hell with

2268
01:48:05,627 --> 01:48:08,187
Speaker 9: this for a long long time to come. And that's

2269
01:48:08,187 --> 01:48:10,187
Speaker 9: if they're found guilty, and they've found innocent, and we

2270
01:48:10,307 --> 01:48:13,387
Speaker 9: hope they are, then it's a whole other kettle of fish.

2271
01:48:13,467 --> 01:48:16,827
Speaker 9: But either way, I think that city are on for

2272
01:48:17,307 --> 01:48:21,027
Speaker 9: an historic end of an era campaign and I think

2273
01:48:21,147 --> 01:48:24,227
Speaker 9: that may well spur them on for another ninety plus

2274
01:48:24,307 --> 01:48:26,547
Speaker 9: point season. If you get that, then you're going to

2275
01:48:26,587 --> 01:48:29,067
Speaker 9: be champions more than nightly, just briefly as well. On

2276
01:48:29,147 --> 01:48:34,707
Speaker 9: this game tomorrow or on Sunday. Chelsea, what on earth?

2277
01:48:34,987 --> 01:48:37,347
Speaker 9: What in the flying squirrel are we going to get?

2278
01:48:37,627 --> 01:48:41,787
Speaker 9: I have absolutely no idea. The manager, you know, has

2279
01:48:41,947 --> 01:48:45,347
Speaker 9: never managed at top flight level before. He's been assistant

2280
01:48:45,427 --> 01:48:48,347
Speaker 9: to Pellegrini at west Ham and Guardiola at Man City

2281
01:48:48,667 --> 01:48:52,347
Speaker 9: and now he's managing Chelsea is basket case club with

2282
01:48:52,587 --> 01:48:57,227
Speaker 9: fifty five senior players in their squad, of which forty

2283
01:48:57,347 --> 01:49:01,467
Speaker 9: four are still at Stanford Bridge or Cobham training, where

2284
01:49:01,467 --> 01:49:03,387
Speaker 9: they have to name a twenty five man squad plus

2285
01:49:03,627 --> 01:49:07,987
Speaker 9: additionals who are development or whatever. There was a story

2286
01:49:08,027 --> 01:49:10,507
Speaker 9: in The Athletic which was players were getting chained in

2287
01:49:10,627 --> 01:49:13,547
Speaker 9: the corridor because there was not enough room in dressing

2288
01:49:13,587 --> 01:49:16,987
Speaker 9: rooms to get ready. They've since expanded the squad from

2289
01:49:17,027 --> 01:49:20,067
Speaker 9: that point. I don't get it. I don't understand it.

2290
01:49:20,307 --> 01:49:23,267
Speaker 9: I don'gee how it's practical. I don'ge how Maresca as

2291
01:49:23,267 --> 01:49:26,147
Speaker 9: a novice is going to handle it. Who knows it

2292
01:49:26,267 --> 01:49:28,947
Speaker 9: might be amazing. They might beat City five nil, or

2293
01:49:28,987 --> 01:49:32,147
Speaker 9: they might lose five nil, or Gord knows what they're

2294
01:49:32,147 --> 01:49:33,427
Speaker 9: going to be fascinating to watch.

2295
01:49:33,467 --> 01:49:35,747
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that I love it, Tom. Always love

2296
01:49:35,827 --> 01:49:36,627
Speaker 2: tending football with you.

2297
01:49:36,707 --> 01:49:36,867
Speaker 1: Mate.

2298
01:49:36,867 --> 01:49:39,107
Speaker 2: Here we are week one of a long season. Let's

2299
01:49:39,147 --> 01:49:39,907
Speaker 2: catch up again soon.

2300
01:49:41,027 --> 01:49:43,427
Speaker 9: Don't get too down in the dumps until week ten.

2301
01:49:43,507 --> 01:49:44,467
Speaker 9: Everyone stay was it?

2302
01:49:44,747 --> 01:49:45,867
Speaker 2: I love it Tom? Thanks mate.

2303
01:49:46,027 --> 01:49:46,227
Speaker 13: Tom.

2304
01:49:46,267 --> 01:49:48,907
Speaker 2: Renny had a talkSPORT in the UK. So if him

2305
01:49:48,907 --> 01:49:51,707
Speaker 2: Menu won Fulham nil, love Apaol beating up switch to nil.

2306
01:49:51,787 --> 01:49:53,307
Speaker 2: Great to see him switch Town back in the Premier

2307
01:49:53,387 --> 01:49:56,467
Speaker 2: League after over two decades away. Arsenal two nil one

2308
01:49:56,547 --> 01:49:59,107
Speaker 2: is over Wolves Newcastle one Southampton nil. Southampon back in

2309
01:49:59,107 --> 01:50:01,587
Speaker 2: the Premier League. If it to nil, Brighton three in

2310
01:50:01,707 --> 01:50:04,827
Speaker 2: Forest and Bournemouth drawing one all West Ham one Eston Villa.

2311
01:50:04,947 --> 01:50:08,027
Speaker 2: Two games to come tomorrow morning one o'clock Brentford host

2312
01:50:08,067 --> 01:50:11,227
Speaker 2: Crystal Palace three thirty. It's that Chelsea Manchester City game

2313
01:50:11,547 --> 01:50:13,187
Speaker 2: and then Leicester who had a season out of the

2314
01:50:13,187 --> 01:50:15,187
Speaker 2: Premier League only to bunce straight back in. They host

2315
01:50:15,227 --> 01:50:20,027
Speaker 2: Tottenham Tuesday morning at seven o'clock. New Zealand time. Having

2316
01:50:20,027 --> 01:50:21,987
Speaker 2: a quick look around the live sport that's happening in

2317
01:50:22,267 --> 01:50:25,067
Speaker 2: New Zealand right now. Bunning's MPC Bay of plenty five

2318
01:50:25,267 --> 01:50:31,347
Speaker 2: North Harbor three after twenty eight minutes at Todonga and

2319
01:50:31,867 --> 01:50:35,827
Speaker 2: Wellington five Taranaki twelve currently after the same amount of

2320
01:50:35,907 --> 01:50:38,747
Speaker 2: time at Pottydoor Park. Checking on the Farrh Palmer Cup.

2321
01:50:39,387 --> 01:50:41,587
Speaker 2: This game being played in christ Church Rugby Park and

2322
01:50:41,667 --> 01:50:44,867
Speaker 2: christ Church in terrible conditions are Canterbury three mill ahead

2323
01:50:45,147 --> 01:50:49,547
Speaker 2: of white Cuttle. Later on this afternoon in the Bunnings MPC,

2324
01:50:49,787 --> 01:50:53,307
Speaker 2: it'll be white Cuttle traveling to Pukakoe to take on

2325
01:50:53,427 --> 01:50:56,787
Speaker 2: Caddy's Manico Ben O'Keefe is the referee and he will

2326
01:50:56,867 --> 01:51:01,147
Speaker 2: break a long standing first class refereeing record when he

2327
01:51:01,347 --> 01:51:03,227
Speaker 2: controls this one we'll tell you more about that and

2328
01:51:03,307 --> 01:51:05,147
Speaker 2: chat to the man himself, Ben o'keef when we come back.

2329
01:51:06,387 --> 01:51:11,547
Speaker 1: Questions off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and GJ. Gunnerholmes,

2330
01:51:11,747 --> 01:51:13,347
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most Trusted.

2331
01:51:13,027 --> 01:51:16,547
Speaker 2: Home Builder News two forty on Weekend Sport. A long

2332
01:51:16,667 --> 01:51:21,107
Speaker 2: standing first class refereeing record is to be broken this afternoon.

2333
01:51:21,147 --> 01:51:24,667
Speaker 2: Ben O'Keeffe is in charge of the NPC rugby match

2334
01:51:24,747 --> 01:51:28,227
Speaker 2: between Counties Monaco and White Cuttle in Pokacoe, kicking off

2335
01:51:28,267 --> 01:51:31,827
Speaker 2: around four thirty. It'll be Ben o'keeff's two hundred and

2336
01:51:32,027 --> 01:51:36,827
Speaker 2: twenty second top level fifteen's game, passing Patti O'Brien's two

2337
01:51:36,987 --> 01:51:40,107
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one. That record has stood since two

2338
01:51:40,227 --> 01:51:42,787
Speaker 2: thousand and five. Ben o'keeff joins us on the wad

2339
01:51:42,787 --> 01:51:44,747
Speaker 2: of the game. I think congrats on the milestone.

2340
01:51:44,907 --> 01:51:45,107
Speaker 15: Ben.

2341
01:51:45,147 --> 01:51:48,707
Speaker 2: Can you remember game number one two twenty two this afternoon?

2342
01:51:48,747 --> 01:51:49,867
Speaker 2: Can you remember game number one?

2343
01:51:50,747 --> 01:51:50,947
Speaker 20: Yeah?

2344
01:51:51,027 --> 01:51:51,627
Speaker 24: Thanks Piney.

2345
01:51:52,347 --> 01:51:54,387
Speaker 20: Game number one was a long time goo now, but

2346
01:51:55,187 --> 01:51:58,107
Speaker 20: I do remember. It was on the West Coast. I

2347
01:51:58,187 --> 01:52:01,747
Speaker 20: was doing a Heartland game and I was pretty young Bicknness,

2348
01:52:02,227 --> 01:52:04,747
Speaker 20: learning my trade and craft. But it almost didn't go

2349
01:52:04,827 --> 01:52:07,147
Speaker 20: ahead because of the there and I think it was

2350
01:52:07,187 --> 01:52:10,387
Speaker 20: a bit of hail, but it was nothing. Nothing soften

2351
01:52:10,467 --> 01:52:12,227
Speaker 20: me getting on that field to do that match. And

2352
01:52:13,107 --> 01:52:15,787
Speaker 20: it was in twenty more since then, so it's been awesome,

2353
01:52:15,827 --> 01:52:16,947
Speaker 20: it's been I'm really grateful.

2354
01:52:17,227 --> 01:52:20,027
Speaker 2: So two hundred and twenty two and counting this afternoon.

2355
01:52:20,067 --> 01:52:23,027
Speaker 2: How much does this milestone mean to you? The fact

2356
01:52:23,027 --> 01:52:28,467
Speaker 2: that you'll be you know, the highest highest controlling referee

2357
01:52:29,387 --> 01:52:30,387
Speaker 2: in New Zealand history.

2358
01:52:32,107 --> 01:52:34,347
Speaker 20: I think it mainly, like you know, when I realized

2359
01:52:34,347 --> 01:52:36,347
Speaker 20: that I was going to reach that milestone this week,

2360
01:52:36,747 --> 01:52:39,307
Speaker 20: it just makes me reflect on, you know, the referees.

2361
01:52:38,867 --> 01:52:39,827
Speaker 15: That have gone before.

2362
01:52:40,347 --> 01:52:42,627
Speaker 20: Obviously Poo O'Brien massive and you know, it was a

2363
01:52:42,667 --> 01:52:46,347
Speaker 20: big part of me when I started young himself, Colin Hawk,

2364
01:52:46,427 --> 01:52:48,867
Speaker 20: and I've had a lot of not just referees who

2365
01:52:48,907 --> 01:52:52,427
Speaker 20: have coached me or I've been you know, working with,

2366
01:52:52,587 --> 01:52:54,347
Speaker 20: you know, people that have just really assisted me throughout

2367
01:52:54,347 --> 01:52:56,227
Speaker 20: the game the whole time. So it's sort of made

2368
01:52:56,227 --> 01:52:57,867
Speaker 20: me just reflect im the help that I've got along

2369
01:52:57,907 --> 01:52:59,707
Speaker 20: the way, because it's been a big part of my

2370
01:52:59,787 --> 01:53:01,627
Speaker 20: life in part of games, and I abouly love it

2371
01:53:02,227 --> 01:53:04,827
Speaker 20: and how they get to two hundred and twenty two,

2372
01:53:06,387 --> 01:53:08,187
Speaker 20: I sort of feel like there's a bit of responsibility

2373
01:53:08,227 --> 01:53:10,427
Speaker 20: to keep going and you know, do even better job

2374
01:53:10,467 --> 01:53:11,667
Speaker 20: for the next hundred and twenty two.

2375
01:53:12,587 --> 01:53:16,867
Speaker 2: I can brilliant, great stuff. What is behind your longevity

2376
01:53:17,427 --> 01:53:19,067
Speaker 2: at the very top level, do you think?

2377
01:53:20,467 --> 01:53:22,747
Speaker 20: Look, I've had a lot of good support while I've

2378
01:53:22,787 --> 01:53:24,787
Speaker 20: been refereeing, but I do think that I'm a bit

2379
01:53:24,827 --> 01:53:26,267
Speaker 20: of a like, I'm a student of the game. I

2380
01:53:26,307 --> 01:53:30,067
Speaker 20: actually love rugby and I'm always trying to work on

2381
01:53:30,307 --> 01:53:32,547
Speaker 20: the things that I can get bit after every single

2382
01:53:32,667 --> 01:53:35,867
Speaker 20: game I'm reviewing them. You know, I'm really diligent about

2383
01:53:35,907 --> 01:53:37,787
Speaker 20: how I watch my games afterwards and then what do

2384
01:53:37,907 --> 01:53:40,227
Speaker 20: for a week two get better? So I feel like

2385
01:53:40,907 --> 01:53:43,387
Speaker 20: I've been able to just grow after each game to

2386
01:53:43,507 --> 01:53:45,267
Speaker 20: do that, And that's what I always tell other referees

2387
01:53:45,307 --> 01:53:48,107
Speaker 20: and when our refereeing games is you know, you've always

2388
01:53:48,107 --> 01:53:49,587
Speaker 20: got to learn. There's always something you can take out

2389
01:53:49,627 --> 01:53:51,467
Speaker 20: of a match that it can make you better for

2390
01:53:51,547 --> 01:53:53,387
Speaker 20: the next game that you do. So I feel like

2391
01:53:53,467 --> 01:53:54,987
Speaker 20: that's probably been a big part of it and something

2392
01:53:54,987 --> 01:53:56,787
Speaker 20: that I'll just I'll continue withus on my journey.

2393
01:53:57,427 --> 01:53:59,587
Speaker 2: When you're doing a review, what is it that you're

2394
01:53:59,627 --> 01:54:00,267
Speaker 2: watching for.

2395
01:54:02,227 --> 01:54:02,627
Speaker 6: A lot of it.

2396
01:54:02,707 --> 01:54:04,307
Speaker 20: I mean there's a lot of detail just around the

2397
01:54:04,387 --> 01:54:08,987
Speaker 20: decisions that I make correct, clear and obvious. What decisions

2398
01:54:09,027 --> 01:54:12,827
Speaker 20: did I miss? And then things like how was my

2399
01:54:12,907 --> 01:54:15,587
Speaker 20: positioning in the game? Could I have been better? The

2400
01:54:15,587 --> 01:54:18,707
Speaker 20: way that I communicate with players, was that a correct

2401
01:54:19,147 --> 01:54:21,627
Speaker 20: escalation process? About to give alow card? So all these

2402
01:54:21,667 --> 01:54:25,027
Speaker 20: things that make your game understandable not just for the players,

2403
01:54:25,387 --> 01:54:27,547
Speaker 20: but for the you know, the spectators and people watching

2404
01:54:27,587 --> 01:54:28,787
Speaker 20: the game as well. I want it to be really

2405
01:54:28,827 --> 01:54:32,507
Speaker 20: clear to them how I'm officiating and controlling.

2406
01:54:32,147 --> 01:54:34,747
Speaker 2: The match, and amongst those two hundred and twenty two

2407
01:54:34,907 --> 01:54:37,307
Speaker 2: or two hundred and twenty one up till now, you've

2408
01:54:37,627 --> 01:54:41,587
Speaker 2: controlled some massive matches Rugby World Cup semi finals. Do

2409
01:54:41,667 --> 01:54:44,427
Speaker 2: you still get a buzz out of referring provincial rugby?

2410
01:54:45,267 --> 01:54:48,987
Speaker 20: Oh? Absolutely? Singles sort of go down my spine now

2411
01:54:49,107 --> 01:54:51,667
Speaker 20: just thinking about, you know, the games that or got

2412
01:54:51,747 --> 01:54:53,627
Speaker 20: coming up that you know, even just heading down the

2413
01:54:53,667 --> 01:54:56,147
Speaker 20: book to covery like I almost feel like it. Even

2414
01:54:56,187 --> 01:54:58,027
Speaker 20: though I've done some massive games like Line Series and

2415
01:54:58,107 --> 01:55:00,947
Speaker 20: Rugby World Cups, you know you feel more pressure, you know,

2416
01:55:01,107 --> 01:55:04,467
Speaker 20: doing NBC provincial games, doing Super rugby games because you know,

2417
01:55:04,947 --> 01:55:07,147
Speaker 20: there is there's an expectation should need to do a really,

2418
01:55:07,187 --> 01:55:10,587
Speaker 20: really good job, and I love that. I also love

2419
01:55:10,867 --> 01:55:13,307
Speaker 20: the environment of going in and you know, I have

2420
01:55:14,027 --> 01:55:17,747
Speaker 20: some young assistant referees, some new tmos that I can

2421
01:55:17,827 --> 01:55:20,347
Speaker 20: work with, but also just the environment around. You know,

2422
01:55:20,387 --> 01:55:22,227
Speaker 20: there's a little bit of an afternet to an NBC

2423
01:55:22,387 --> 01:55:25,467
Speaker 20: game too, So those types of things I do find

2424
01:55:25,787 --> 01:55:28,027
Speaker 20: more pressured because I want to do a really good job,

2425
01:55:28,067 --> 01:55:30,947
Speaker 20: but I also love the environment around how everyone can

2426
01:55:31,027 --> 01:55:32,307
Speaker 20: just enjoy it after the game as well.

2427
01:55:32,547 --> 01:55:36,267
Speaker 2: How much responsibility responsibility, Ben, do you feel for nurturing

2428
01:55:36,347 --> 01:55:38,587
Speaker 2: the next way you talked about some young officials. There

2429
01:55:38,827 --> 01:55:40,747
Speaker 2: is that a responsibility that you take seriously.

2430
01:55:41,627 --> 01:55:43,667
Speaker 20: Yeah, but Hurricane, that's one of the biggest things that

2431
01:55:43,707 --> 01:55:44,867
Speaker 20: I'm sort of running towards now.

2432
01:55:44,947 --> 01:55:45,347
Speaker 17: I guess the.

2433
01:55:45,347 --> 01:55:49,547
Speaker 20: Responsibility that I want. And you know, the game is

2434
01:55:49,987 --> 01:55:52,587
Speaker 20: trying to work itself out of a whole internationally al

2435
01:55:52,627 --> 01:55:55,107
Speaker 20: so regionally as well. We're trying to get people that

2436
01:55:55,187 --> 01:55:57,747
Speaker 20: love the sport and I think a small part of

2437
01:55:57,827 --> 01:56:00,987
Speaker 20: that is the referees and how we manage games, referee

2438
01:56:01,027 --> 01:56:04,067
Speaker 20: games and allow people to understand the decisions that we're making,

2439
01:56:04,187 --> 01:56:07,387
Speaker 20: So I feel a bit of responsibility to help that

2440
01:56:07,547 --> 01:56:10,227
Speaker 20: drive to improve the game, and also like I want to,

2441
01:56:10,587 --> 01:56:12,747
Speaker 20: I want to be a leader and show the next

2442
01:56:12,827 --> 01:56:17,267
Speaker 20: generation of young men and woman referees hopefully how to

2443
01:56:17,387 --> 01:56:19,867
Speaker 20: do it my way and then hopefully they can get

2444
01:56:19,907 --> 01:56:21,667
Speaker 20: better than me and and you know, go on to

2445
01:56:21,707 --> 01:56:24,747
Speaker 20: the inspecial stagids be absolutely fantastic, which is you know

2446
01:56:24,867 --> 01:56:27,747
Speaker 20: where we were out at the moment was really really

2447
01:56:27,787 --> 01:56:30,507
Speaker 20: promising and really awesome referee at their level, and I

2448
01:56:30,547 --> 01:56:32,067
Speaker 20: hope that would give many, many more and you know

2449
01:56:32,187 --> 01:56:34,347
Speaker 20: they can sort of surpass me and then lead the

2450
01:56:34,427 --> 01:56:35,787
Speaker 20: way after fi I'm done.

2451
01:56:36,027 --> 01:56:37,947
Speaker 2: Well, you take the record from Patty O'Brien you mentioned

2452
01:56:37,987 --> 01:56:39,467
Speaker 2: that before, but can can you just give us a

2453
01:56:39,507 --> 01:56:41,867
Speaker 2: bit of an insight into into the assistance he's given

2454
01:56:41,947 --> 01:56:44,787
Speaker 2: you and the trial that he blazed for referees.

2455
01:56:45,787 --> 01:56:48,987
Speaker 20: Well, he had a professional referee, you know, him, along

2456
01:56:49,027 --> 01:56:51,107
Speaker 20: with Colin Hawk, showed that you know it could be

2457
01:56:51,747 --> 01:56:54,947
Speaker 20: the job can be or personally a full time professional role,

2458
01:56:56,067 --> 01:56:57,827
Speaker 20: and you know that it can be a job that

2459
01:56:57,907 --> 01:57:00,787
Speaker 20: has taken very seriously and that to be to be

2460
01:57:00,827 --> 01:57:02,827
Speaker 20: able to have long jevity, you have to work hard,

2461
01:57:03,387 --> 01:57:05,787
Speaker 20: not just on the field and how you you know,

2462
01:57:05,907 --> 01:57:09,187
Speaker 20: you move like. He was a very physically active referee,

2463
01:57:09,307 --> 01:57:11,907
Speaker 20: was really really fast, the way that he managed players.

2464
01:57:12,667 --> 01:57:13,907
Speaker 20: You know, it was something that you know, when we

2465
01:57:13,987 --> 01:57:15,907
Speaker 20: were younger, we always sort of aspired to it. We

2466
01:57:15,947 --> 01:57:18,467
Speaker 20: would take parts of what Paddy did, parts of what

2467
01:57:18,587 --> 01:57:21,627
Speaker 20: Colin Hawke did, parts of what guys like Chris Pollock,

2468
01:57:21,707 --> 01:57:24,387
Speaker 20: Bryce Lawrence ken Jackson did, and we'll try and mold

2469
01:57:24,467 --> 01:57:26,867
Speaker 20: the best of that into how we refereed. So now,

2470
01:57:26,907 --> 01:57:29,667
Speaker 20: all those referees that have gone before me, I've watched them,

2471
01:57:29,747 --> 01:57:31,987
Speaker 20: and you know, I've studied them and taken a piece

2472
01:57:32,027 --> 01:57:34,947
Speaker 20: of what they do really well and tried to include

2473
01:57:34,987 --> 01:57:36,587
Speaker 20: in the game that I or how I referee.

2474
01:57:37,107 --> 01:57:40,307
Speaker 2: How much has the officiating of the game changed during

2475
01:57:40,347 --> 01:57:42,307
Speaker 2: these two hundred and twenty one games.

2476
01:57:43,987 --> 01:57:46,147
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, look, if I think back to right at

2477
01:57:46,187 --> 01:57:50,067
Speaker 20: the start, you know, we go through just the number

2478
01:57:50,067 --> 01:57:52,507
Speaker 20: of camera angles that are there in the games, the

2479
01:57:52,707 --> 01:57:54,867
Speaker 20: use of the TMO and the procol around what the

2480
01:57:54,947 --> 01:57:56,867
Speaker 20: TMO can come in for and what they can't come

2481
01:57:56,947 --> 01:57:59,587
Speaker 20: in for, and even more recently, just the law changes

2482
01:57:59,627 --> 01:58:02,387
Speaker 20: to try and make the game faster also safe with

2483
01:58:02,507 --> 01:58:06,107
Speaker 20: the players so all of that has helped, I think,

2484
01:58:06,427 --> 01:58:09,027
Speaker 20: and grow into the right direction, and it's going to

2485
01:58:09,147 --> 01:58:10,987
Speaker 20: keep it's going to continue to do that. And what

2486
01:58:11,147 --> 01:58:15,307
Speaker 20: I love is that over the last few years, players, coaches,

2487
01:58:16,427 --> 01:58:18,547
Speaker 20: you know, key stakeholders in the game have also been

2488
01:58:18,587 --> 01:58:22,507
Speaker 20: collaborating with referees to try and make that game better

2489
01:58:22,587 --> 01:58:25,347
Speaker 20: for every run too. So I think it's changed a

2490
01:58:25,547 --> 01:58:27,387
Speaker 20: lot over the two hunred and twenty two games, as

2491
01:58:27,467 --> 01:58:31,187
Speaker 20: certainly I can remember, I've helped to change. I feel

2492
01:58:31,227 --> 01:58:33,867
Speaker 20: like it's gone in the right direction. So it's exciting

2493
01:58:33,907 --> 01:58:35,067
Speaker 20: to still be a part of it because I think

2494
01:58:35,107 --> 01:58:38,147
Speaker 20: we can actually go a lot further than making a

2495
01:58:38,187 --> 01:58:40,827
Speaker 20: game that we love, you know, more more enjoyable for

2496
01:58:41,547 --> 01:58:43,427
Speaker 20: other parts of the world as well. So I think

2497
01:58:43,467 --> 01:58:44,267
Speaker 20: it's pretty exciting.

2498
01:58:44,867 --> 01:58:46,427
Speaker 2: Can you still watch a game of rugby as a

2499
01:58:46,467 --> 01:58:49,307
Speaker 2: fan without refereeing it from the stand or from your couch?

2500
01:58:49,987 --> 01:58:50,107
Speaker 26: Oh?

2501
01:58:50,307 --> 01:58:52,427
Speaker 20: No, I think I was five games five games in

2502
01:58:52,547 --> 01:58:54,987
Speaker 20: and that kind of stopped me, unfortunately. And I feel

2503
01:58:55,067 --> 01:58:58,347
Speaker 20: sorry for any any close friends and family as well,

2504
01:58:58,387 --> 01:59:00,587
Speaker 20: because I think they sort of fixed on watching the

2505
01:59:00,667 --> 01:59:04,147
Speaker 20: referee too now. But me, no, I always I've always

2506
01:59:04,147 --> 01:59:06,227
Speaker 20: sort of watching a game and you know, even though,

2507
01:59:06,387 --> 01:59:07,987
Speaker 20: and I can really enjoy, you know, watching the all

2508
01:59:08,027 --> 01:59:10,987
Speaker 20: backs of a fan, I'm definitely looking at where the

2509
01:59:11,067 --> 01:59:13,947
Speaker 20: referees positioned and for the sisions that they make and

2510
01:59:14,267 --> 01:59:16,107
Speaker 20: the replays that come on the big screen as well.

2511
01:59:16,227 --> 01:59:18,867
Speaker 20: So and I enjoy it. But you know, it's a

2512
01:59:19,147 --> 01:59:21,827
Speaker 20: fascinating part of the game. When I'm sort of sitting

2513
01:59:21,867 --> 01:59:23,627
Speaker 20: in the stands or I'm sitting on the couch watching

2514
01:59:23,787 --> 01:59:25,467
Speaker 20: watching a game of rugby, I can, I can get

2515
01:59:25,507 --> 01:59:25,947
Speaker 20: a bit loud.

2516
01:59:25,987 --> 01:59:30,307
Speaker 2: I think I don't believe that I do. So two

2517
01:59:30,387 --> 01:59:32,387
Speaker 2: twenty two this afternoon. What do you reckon the final

2518
01:59:32,507 --> 01:59:32,947
Speaker 2: number will be?

2519
01:59:35,747 --> 01:59:38,467
Speaker 20: Look, I don't know. I think I'm thirty five now.

2520
01:59:38,507 --> 01:59:40,867
Speaker 20: And if you look at sort of the age of

2521
01:59:41,227 --> 01:59:43,187
Speaker 20: you know, some some of the top referees that sort

2522
01:59:43,187 --> 01:59:46,067
Speaker 20: of continued into their sort of late forties, I'd love

2523
01:59:46,147 --> 01:59:48,907
Speaker 20: to I'd love to continue for another few World Cups. Obviously,

2524
01:59:48,907 --> 01:59:51,987
Speaker 20: we're a World Cup coming in Australia, the US after that,

2525
01:59:52,147 --> 01:59:53,347
Speaker 20: and then you know, potentially out.

2526
01:59:53,267 --> 01:59:53,747
Speaker 5: There as well.

2527
01:59:53,827 --> 01:59:57,067
Speaker 20: But yeah, look, the body is really good right now.

2528
01:59:57,867 --> 02:00:00,107
Speaker 20: I feel like I'm really contributing well to the game,

2529
02:00:00,547 --> 02:00:03,307
Speaker 20: friends really well as well. So and also I feel

2530
02:00:03,307 --> 02:00:04,427
Speaker 20: like you know, there's sort of still a lot of

2531
02:00:04,427 --> 02:00:06,867
Speaker 20: stuff I can then and get better at. So I

2532
02:00:06,987 --> 02:00:10,467
Speaker 20: hope the runways quite long. I'm keen to stay part

2533
02:00:10,507 --> 02:00:13,707
Speaker 20: of the game because it's a privilege to be better

2534
02:00:13,787 --> 02:00:16,467
Speaker 20: run on any sort of field, not just around the world,

2535
02:00:16,547 --> 02:00:18,787
Speaker 20: but you know, especially in New Zealand. You know, right

2536
02:00:18,867 --> 02:00:21,187
Speaker 20: from Super Rugby npceed and to Club Rugby. You know,

2537
02:00:21,267 --> 02:00:25,467
Speaker 20: it's it's awesome. So yeah, look, I'm hoping, I'm hoping

2538
02:00:25,507 --> 02:00:29,227
Speaker 20: it's it's a long one, but it's not because you know,

2539
02:00:29,267 --> 02:00:30,867
Speaker 20: we've got a lot of young refrees coming up and

2540
02:00:31,067 --> 02:00:33,827
Speaker 20: they take over me and that's fine as well. I

2541
02:00:34,187 --> 02:00:35,667
Speaker 20: would have left it in a good place.

2542
02:00:35,827 --> 02:00:36,027
Speaker 24: Yeah.

2543
02:00:36,027 --> 02:00:37,507
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure there's a bit to come and join

2544
02:00:37,627 --> 02:00:39,547
Speaker 2: number two to two too this afternoon. Ben, thanks for

2545
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Speaker 2: chatting and we'll catch up again.

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Speaker 15: So good bye, no, thank you mate.

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Speaker 2: That has been O'Keefe on his way to referee his

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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty second first class game of fifteen's

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Speaker 2: passing Patty O'Brien's two twenty one that record dating back

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Speaker 2: to two thousand and five. Updating you on the games

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Speaker 2: that I honor. At the moment, they have plenty of

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Speaker 2: lead North Harbor twelve ten at halftime in Todonga. There's

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Speaker 2: been quite a lengthy stoppage and potty door while he'm

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Speaker 2: up or Cunningham is attended to quite a serious injury

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Speaker 2: by the looks of it. So there still thirty two

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Speaker 2: and a half minutes. The game's been stopped for the

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Speaker 2: best part of ten minutes actually, so let's hope I'm

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Speaker 2: morepor Cunningham is okay. The Tatarannaki number eight. They're just

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Speaker 2: getting back underway now. Tadahaky twelve five ahead of Wellington

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Speaker 2: with seven and a half minutes to go halftime in

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Speaker 2: the Fara Palmer Cup in christ Church as well, Wake

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Speaker 2: up all lead Canterbury seven points to three. Quick email

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Speaker 2: from Leon always enjoy your thoughts Leon, thanks for giving

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Speaker 2: them some voice fire email Piney. The AB's great last night,

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Speaker 2: especially in that first half despite the tricky weather conditions.

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Speaker 2: The Box will be a much tougher challenge though, especially

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Speaker 2: upfront and at set peace time. Can't wait for it though.

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Speaker 2: Also d'orsagna against Duplus today will certainly be worth the

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Speaker 2: admission price. I'm picking the Style Bender to win an

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Speaker 2: unpressed entered third Midway title in what should be an

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Speaker 2: epic fight. These guys really can't stand each other and

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Speaker 2: this will be spicy. I'm picking easy to win a

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Speaker 2: close one. Thank you, Leon, I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Nine away from three News Talks he'd.

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Speaker 1: Be breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails

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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Pine News Talk zemb just on.

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Speaker 2: Six away from three. That's pretty much us for another weekend.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, we'll keep you updated across the afternoon as

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Speaker 2: part of our sports news bulletins with the rugby the

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Speaker 2: NRAL when that gets underway, and of course UFC three

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Speaker 2: oh five with a number of kiwis involved, including the

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Speaker 2: headlined act Israel Ardisgna who fights I would look, I'm

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Speaker 2: just guessing here, but I think around four thirty five

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Speaker 2: o'clock probably is when he'll take to the ring against

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Speaker 2: Dricus Duplessy. We'll keep you, as I say, right up

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Speaker 2: to date with it. Tip Beverage on the radio after

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Speaker 2: three o'clock with the weekend collect a huge thanks to

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Speaker 2: Annie McDonald for producing the show across the weekend. We're

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow night on Sports Talk between seven and eight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening in and for contributing to the show.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you taking the time to call or to text,

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Speaker 2: and even though we don't get the chance to read

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Speaker 2: out all the text, we do read them all and

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Speaker 2: appreciate them very much. Taking us out today with the

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Speaker 2: exception by the sounds of it of Mber Carglan Hawks Babe,

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Speaker 2: the rest of the country is being subjected to quite

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Speaker 2: a bit of rain at the moment, quite a bit

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Speaker 2: of wet, wet, wet, you might say, Andy, Andy, shaking

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Speaker 2: his head at my use of this very tenuous link.

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Speaker 2: I do like the band though, and I've enjoyed the weekend,

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Speaker 2: even though it rained at Eden Park last night, enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the rugby very much. And look, as they always say,

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Speaker 2: it's good for the gardens, good for the garden. With

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Speaker 2: a tiny play the song this is a sweet little

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Speaker 2: Mystery by Wet Wet Wet, Taking us out see Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: Night Morrison, Tap Time, Tap.

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Speaker 5: Must Take

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Speaker 1: Sh For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Pine, Listen

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