1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks a B. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:14,547 Speaker 2: We're coming towards the end of our time here at 4 00:00:14,587 --> 00:00:17,227 Speaker 2: Shed twenty two, but time for one more interview and 5 00:00:17,227 --> 00:00:20,467 Speaker 2: it's a great pleasure to welcome into the show. Former 6 00:00:20,507 --> 00:00:25,507 Speaker 2: Springbok now TV rugby analyst with Supersport, Han Yanni Shimangi, 7 00:00:26,027 --> 00:00:28,907 Speaker 2: Han Yanni, let's look back to last week. What did 8 00:00:28,947 --> 00:00:31,227 Speaker 2: you make of the spring Box performance at Eden Park. 9 00:00:32,187 --> 00:00:34,587 Speaker 3: It's a team that would probably look at at the performance. 10 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:36,147 Speaker 3: They created a lot. 11 00:00:36,187 --> 00:00:39,307 Speaker 4: They had I think twelve or thirteen twenty two meter entries, 12 00:00:39,307 --> 00:00:42,027 Speaker 4: but they could just don't convert that pressure, so it 13 00:00:42,147 --> 00:00:44,947 Speaker 4: was it was sort of what I want to call 14 00:00:44,987 --> 00:00:48,667 Speaker 4: it messi when they got to the red zone, which 15 00:00:48,667 --> 00:00:50,867 Speaker 4: was compounding areas, it would be a miss line ut 16 00:00:51,107 --> 00:00:53,827 Speaker 4: to be, you know, they win the lineup and the 17 00:00:53,867 --> 00:00:55,827 Speaker 4: wall get dropped in the get going, then there'd be 18 00:00:55,827 --> 00:00:56,347 Speaker 4: a knock on. 19 00:00:56,907 --> 00:00:57,827 Speaker 3: Or some pressure there. 20 00:00:57,827 --> 00:01:00,227 Speaker 4: But but New Zealand did well to disrupt the spring 21 00:01:00,267 --> 00:01:03,387 Speaker 4: Box and probably seven points is probably a fair reflection 22 00:01:03,467 --> 00:01:05,147 Speaker 4: of the game really at the end in terms of 23 00:01:05,347 --> 00:01:08,107 Speaker 4: the New Zealand victory. Didn't Park was always going to 24 00:01:08,107 --> 00:01:09,987 Speaker 4: be a difficult place to win, but to win, they 25 00:01:10,187 --> 00:01:11,987 Speaker 4: need to put up your best performance. 26 00:01:12,427 --> 00:01:14,267 Speaker 3: And the spring Box was slightly of conor. 27 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:18,147 Speaker 2: How desperate then will they be to produce a big 28 00:01:18,187 --> 00:01:19,067 Speaker 2: reaction tonight? 29 00:01:19,587 --> 00:01:20,267 Speaker 3: It'll be desperate. 30 00:01:20,267 --> 00:01:23,107 Speaker 4: Look, it's a similar to you guys, every time you 31 00:01:23,187 --> 00:01:25,147 Speaker 4: put on the Springbox jersy, every time they are not, 32 00:01:25,227 --> 00:01:26,747 Speaker 4: there is an expectation. 33 00:01:26,867 --> 00:01:30,227 Speaker 3: To deliver excellence. New Zealand it's the greatest library. 34 00:01:30,307 --> 00:01:33,227 Speaker 4: It's it's a harder place to win, and when you're especial, 35 00:01:33,347 --> 00:01:35,467 Speaker 4: it's it's you know, we always remember the wins we 36 00:01:35,507 --> 00:01:38,387 Speaker 4: have in New Zealand against New Zealand. We informed the 37 00:01:38,387 --> 00:01:40,227 Speaker 4: truck last year, but none of them were in New Zealand, 38 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:42,547 Speaker 4: and the team will be desperate together results here. 39 00:01:43,067 --> 00:01:45,547 Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of hype around last weekend's game in 40 00:01:45,627 --> 00:01:48,147 Speaker 2: there is tonight as well. But with the Eden Park record, 41 00:01:48,187 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 2: the undefeated record, all of the you know, the emotion 42 00:01:51,587 --> 00:01:53,587 Speaker 2: that was wrapped around last week, can you see the 43 00:01:53,627 --> 00:01:56,547 Speaker 2: spring Box getting up again in similar fashion for the 44 00:01:56,587 --> 00:01:57,187 Speaker 2: game tonight. 45 00:01:57,387 --> 00:02:00,107 Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll get up and purely because also we take 46 00:02:00,147 --> 00:02:02,547 Speaker 4: this flat a bit, so there's a lot of internal 47 00:02:02,587 --> 00:02:05,867 Speaker 4: competition within this flood, which means guys will want to 48 00:02:05,907 --> 00:02:07,027 Speaker 4: perform in put the. 49 00:02:06,987 --> 00:02:08,107 Speaker 3: Big foot forward. 50 00:02:07,907 --> 00:02:11,187 Speaker 4: And that that's good for the Springboks. But the reality 51 00:02:11,307 --> 00:02:14,547 Speaker 4: is it's it's you know, it's a Dorby game. It's 52 00:02:14,547 --> 00:02:16,867 Speaker 4: it's a massive rivalry and don't get up for they 53 00:02:17,147 --> 00:02:19,507 Speaker 4: They've never not been up for it, you know. And 54 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:21,227 Speaker 4: I don't think the gap between the two teams is 55 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:23,547 Speaker 4: that big, to be honest with you. And there's plenty 56 00:02:23,627 --> 00:02:25,707 Speaker 4: of South Africans and as we said, stand here, I'm 57 00:02:25,707 --> 00:02:27,747 Speaker 4: watching the guys walking into the team bus and there's 58 00:02:27,787 --> 00:02:30,227 Speaker 4: loads of South Africans just taking pictures here so to 59 00:02:30,347 --> 00:02:34,747 Speaker 4: understand what's required to understand, you know, in front of them, 60 00:02:34,747 --> 00:02:36,467 Speaker 4: and it's something that they're always embrace. 61 00:02:37,067 --> 00:02:39,787 Speaker 2: What if you made of the raft of changes Rassi 62 00:02:39,827 --> 00:02:42,267 Speaker 2: Erasthmus has made to a side for tonight. 63 00:02:42,827 --> 00:02:45,347 Speaker 3: They're good, they're good. Look we have ritated a bit. 64 00:02:45,427 --> 00:02:46,147 Speaker 3: I mean's such a fund. 65 00:02:46,547 --> 00:02:49,627 Speaker 4: Missoulia played probably ten years Sea games last year and 66 00:02:49,627 --> 00:02:51,867 Speaker 4: everyone but he's going to get introduced into the springball team. 67 00:02:52,227 --> 00:02:54,907 Speaker 4: He wouldn't start against New Zealand and look what's happened now. 68 00:02:55,267 --> 00:02:57,787 Speaker 4: He started last year and he's probably the best young 69 00:02:57,867 --> 00:02:59,067 Speaker 4: up and coming talent anymore. 70 00:02:59,307 --> 00:03:04,307 Speaker 5: US demon Billin says, yea two Cayn made the springboards. 71 00:03:04,307 --> 00:03:06,667 Speaker 5: I think there's a three year old against US Tralia 72 00:03:06,747 --> 00:03:09,187 Speaker 5: which we won. So it's as much as it's a 73 00:03:09,187 --> 00:03:11,187 Speaker 5: lot of changes. These guys have been around the block 74 00:03:11,267 --> 00:03:12,147 Speaker 5: and they know what to do. 75 00:03:13,187 --> 00:03:15,547 Speaker 4: Exciting was a coward infant look at the New Zealanders 76 00:03:15,547 --> 00:03:17,347 Speaker 4: wouldn't seen a lot of out it facebook the charts 77 00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:20,267 Speaker 4: that they did, played edge groups to ut So he's 78 00:03:20,267 --> 00:03:21,827 Speaker 4: a very good player and if he's given a little 79 00:03:21,827 --> 00:03:23,507 Speaker 4: bit of space and he started as a big. 80 00:03:23,347 --> 00:03:25,987 Speaker 2: Way, did you think that he might have gone in 81 00:03:25,987 --> 00:03:28,707 Speaker 2: one or both tests Russie with a six to two 82 00:03:29,067 --> 00:03:32,147 Speaker 2: bench split given how effective that was last year in 83 00:03:32,147 --> 00:03:33,627 Speaker 2: both Johannesburg and Cape Town. 84 00:03:33,907 --> 00:03:35,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the backs don't have a lot of minutes. 85 00:03:35,987 --> 00:03:38,347 Speaker 4: I think that's why he couldn't go with We went 86 00:03:38,427 --> 00:03:40,187 Speaker 4: five to three. But Chester Hayesen can come in a 87 00:03:40,267 --> 00:03:42,827 Speaker 4: center and flame, so this week you can either. 88 00:03:42,667 --> 00:03:44,107 Speaker 3: Look at it as a five to three or a 89 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:47,907 Speaker 3: hybrid sixth too. So that's what he's done this week. 90 00:03:47,947 --> 00:03:50,227 Speaker 4: Oh guess name one's a big one because as a 91 00:03:50,307 --> 00:03:52,867 Speaker 4: lot he's quite a bigger but a massive offloading. It's 92 00:03:52,867 --> 00:03:55,307 Speaker 4: almost like a basketbooll player in terms of this swofloading game. 93 00:03:55,907 --> 00:03:58,227 Speaker 4: They can get the pull away within context. So it's 94 00:03:58,227 --> 00:03:59,307 Speaker 4: going to be an exciting game. 95 00:03:59,587 --> 00:04:02,187 Speaker 2: Do you think the spring Box will continue the aerial 96 00:04:02,227 --> 00:04:03,987 Speaker 2: assault they employed last weekend? 97 00:04:04,507 --> 00:04:08,627 Speaker 4: I think the condition sort of takes it at Christie 98 00:04:08,787 --> 00:04:11,867 Speaker 4: kicked probably the most that he was good, so you've 99 00:04:11,867 --> 00:04:13,147 Speaker 4: got to adapt to the conditions. 100 00:04:13,147 --> 00:04:15,427 Speaker 3: You could see that midfield area a lot of the 101 00:04:15,467 --> 00:04:16,187 Speaker 3: teams are kicking. 102 00:04:16,667 --> 00:04:18,747 Speaker 4: I think what you might maybe see from both teams 103 00:04:18,747 --> 00:04:21,867 Speaker 4: as variation and kicking instead of kicking from nine, kicked 104 00:04:21,867 --> 00:04:24,827 Speaker 4: from ten, kick from twelve, kicked from fifteen, and try 105 00:04:24,827 --> 00:04:26,667 Speaker 4: to isolate someone from the back and use that. 106 00:04:27,427 --> 00:04:31,507 Speaker 2: This is a very experienced South African side in many areas, 107 00:04:31,547 --> 00:04:35,307 Speaker 2: other areas it's not quite so experienced. How many of 108 00:04:35,307 --> 00:04:37,907 Speaker 2: the plaiers involved in the spring Box squad now do 109 00:04:37,987 --> 00:04:40,387 Speaker 2: you expect to not be there in a couple of 110 00:04:40,507 --> 00:04:42,027 Speaker 2: years at the next Rugby World Cup. 111 00:04:42,867 --> 00:04:46,147 Speaker 3: It's difficult sold because you can't do you look at 112 00:04:46,147 --> 00:04:48,667 Speaker 3: the performance, not the age of the player. So if 113 00:04:48,707 --> 00:04:49,587 Speaker 3: you look at. 114 00:04:49,347 --> 00:04:53,667 Speaker 5: A guy like what's for example, two thousand people. 115 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:55,667 Speaker 3: See it's too Old two thousand and seven, you ended 116 00:04:55,747 --> 00:04:58,507 Speaker 3: up winning the World Cup. You know, so, I think 117 00:04:58,587 --> 00:05:01,347 Speaker 3: what the chapter on months for spiders listening? Would you play? 118 00:05:01,387 --> 00:05:03,547 Speaker 3: Well old enough? It actually doesn't matter. 119 00:05:04,067 --> 00:05:05,987 Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, hen Yanni. I gotta leave it there. 120 00:05:06,027 --> 00:05:09,747 Speaker 2: I thanks for joining us. Henyani Shimangi a former springbalk 121 00:05:09,747 --> 00:05:12,507 Speaker 2: In now TV rugby analyst with Supersport. 122 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:16,347 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 123 00:05:16,427 --> 00:05:19,747 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 124 00:05:19,787 --> 00:05:21,387 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio