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Speaker 1: Son is here. Of course, warm temperatures this week, Thank

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Speaker 1: goodness about time. Anyway, we tend to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit angsty about swimming and drowning at this time of year.

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Speaker 1: So what a safety set to meet with the Sports minister?

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Speaker 1: They want a better water education program apparently what a

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Speaker 1: safety in New Zealand Boss Daniel Girard is. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: Daniel morning to you and Mike. Aren't they drownings down?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, this is so far this year we're looking

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Speaker 2: at a twenty six percent reduction, but there we go

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Speaker 2: a point in time. This is definitely not a trend. Yet.

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Speaker 2: We want to celebrate the fact that people are obviously

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Speaker 2: making better choices and we want to highlight that fact

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Speaker 2: and share that with our minister and others.

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Speaker 1: How gritty are is the data? And do you know

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Speaker 1: where they drown how old they are? Is there you

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Speaker 1: know whether there are patents to be seen there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. We've spent a lot of time and energy

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Speaker 2: around the data science and the analysis work and really

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Speaker 2: changing the shape of water safety in New Zealand so

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Speaker 2: that we are purely evidence based. We can now identify

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Speaker 2: where clearly things are going wrong, what people are doing

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Speaker 2: at that point in time. How long are they're doing

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Speaker 2: that activity to put them at risk? And what are

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Speaker 2: some of the things we can do to help prevent

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Speaker 2: and encourage people to make some different choices.

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Speaker 1: How much of it's just playing. It's not that you

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Speaker 1: can or can't swim, it's just education, getting into a

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Speaker 1: drinking too much, all the weird stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, they are significant challenges. But the big thing here,

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Speaker 2: and the big thing that we're really trying to push,

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Speaker 2: is that there's a difference being able to swim, or

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Speaker 2: a child learning to swim in a nice warm swimming

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Speaker 2: pool with their cap on and their goggles and beautiful tiles,

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Speaker 2: to actually being out in open water. And our Day

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Speaker 2: is suggesting that twenty seven percent of eight year old

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Speaker 2: can't even float for two minutes. So that's in a

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Speaker 2: nice warm pool. You put them out in the difficult conditions,

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Speaker 2: maybe a chop, maybe a swell. How long can people survive?

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Speaker 2: We also see that forty percent of adults in a

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Speaker 2: self reporting survey say, actually out in open water, I'm

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Speaker 2: not that comfortable on that. Not that constant being able

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Speaker 2: to swim and move through the water got to give

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Speaker 2: the next generation, in particular, those basic aquatic skills, the

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Speaker 2: skills you need before you learn to swim to make

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Speaker 2: sure that you are actually able to keep yourself afloat

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Speaker 2: and then move on to the fantastic skill of learning

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Speaker 2: to swim and a lifelong of getting out and gathering

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Speaker 2: ki and having great time on our waters.

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Speaker 1: Where do you do it? Because you do. I did

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Speaker 1: it in the school pool, But a lot of schools

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Speaker 1: don't have pools anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yes, schools, we believe are the cheapest and the easiest

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Speaker 2: place for this to occur. So the cheapest of all

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Speaker 2: versions is to have a passionate stuff. As we know

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Speaker 2: that school teachers are stretched every which way, but the

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Speaker 2: basic skills to be able to teach their students these

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Speaker 2: aquatic skills. So it's very very basic, straightforward stuff. If

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Speaker 2: you need to go to a council facility or other

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Speaker 2: places and use professionals to help you, that's where the

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Speaker 2: cost starts to mount up. But right now we believe

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Speaker 2: that the schools are the right place. Most schools are

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Speaker 2: doing something around aquatic education. We just want them to

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Speaker 2: align with some basic world leading research around competencies and

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Speaker 2: ages and stages of having the right skills at the

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Speaker 2: right age and then just rolling that out through through

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Speaker 2: this school life.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Dan, you appreciate up Daniel Girand, who's the

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