1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 2: They'd be. 4 00:00:13,293 --> 00:00:15,653 Speaker 1: Rude time past is our man in the garden. 5 00:00:15,653 --> 00:00:19,773 Speaker 2: He's with us this morning, calder rude cure Jack. I 6 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:23,693 Speaker 2: loved your intro mate. The way we are looking after 7 00:00:23,733 --> 00:00:27,253 Speaker 2: the planet house, you know, all that sort of stuff. 8 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:31,373 Speaker 2: The species that we are, you know, it's just unbelievable. 9 00:00:32,253 --> 00:00:35,133 Speaker 2: You know. I sometimes thought, if all the species on 10 00:00:35,173 --> 00:00:39,293 Speaker 2: the planet could talk or think or communicate, how would 11 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:47,173 Speaker 2: they look at Homo sapiens. Are we Well, I don't know. 12 00:00:47,213 --> 00:00:49,333 Speaker 1: That's the thing that'd be very complimentary somehow. 13 00:00:49,613 --> 00:00:53,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. So this this is so, this 14 00:00:53,413 --> 00:00:55,293 Speaker 2: is the whole thing. I quite often talk to kids 15 00:00:55,293 --> 00:00:57,653 Speaker 2: and teach just about it, about nature, literacy and all 16 00:00:57,693 --> 00:01:01,773 Speaker 2: this stuff, because if you really study the creatures. Now 17 00:01:01,813 --> 00:01:03,973 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking a little bit about fungy today, 18 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:07,093 Speaker 2: but anyway, if you study fungi or by or whatever, 19 00:01:09,173 --> 00:01:14,493 Speaker 2: they run on current sunlight, not fossil sunlight, and every 20 00:01:15,093 --> 00:01:18,133 Speaker 2: and everything that they have is recycled. 21 00:01:18,773 --> 00:01:21,613 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a I mean, that seems like that's actually 22 00:01:21,613 --> 00:01:24,453 Speaker 1: a very good point. 23 00:01:24,893 --> 00:01:31,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's using and they with you exactly. And 24 00:01:31,133 --> 00:01:35,053 Speaker 2: also they work with an ecological system of cooperation, not 25 00:01:35,533 --> 00:01:40,933 Speaker 2: competition like all these bloody people in in in never Mind. 26 00:01:41,493 --> 00:01:46,653 Speaker 2: They operate on diversity too, and they use local expertise. 27 00:01:47,533 --> 00:01:48,853 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. 28 00:01:50,573 --> 00:01:54,853 Speaker 2: In the end. Yeah, and in the end, of course 29 00:01:54,853 --> 00:02:00,653 Speaker 2: they use life friendly chemistry, which I think is nice. 30 00:02:00,933 --> 00:02:02,613 Speaker 1: Well, this is why we love you, so it it's not 31 00:02:02,653 --> 00:02:08,453 Speaker 1: just philosophy is straying into political areas, which I love 32 00:02:08,493 --> 00:02:09,733 Speaker 1: as well. So I'm happy. 33 00:02:09,893 --> 00:02:12,613 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need but we need to really think about that, Jack, 34 00:02:12,653 --> 00:02:15,013 Speaker 2: you know exactly what I mean. And seeing you're dead 35 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:19,213 Speaker 2: now that is far more prevalent for you right now, 36 00:02:20,053 --> 00:02:23,213 Speaker 2: you know, with with your with your son and all. Anyway, 37 00:02:23,573 --> 00:02:26,333 Speaker 2: So I in our place, it's been very dry. The 38 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:28,093 Speaker 2: sum has been very dry, but then of course we've 39 00:02:28,093 --> 00:02:29,133 Speaker 2: obviously had a lot of rain in. 40 00:02:29,053 --> 00:02:31,253 Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks ago. And I have four 41 00:02:31,973 --> 00:02:35,733 Speaker 1: dinner plate sized mushrooms growing in my in the middle 42 00:02:35,773 --> 00:02:38,573 Speaker 1: of my lawn. They're white, they're just like dinner plates. 43 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:40,973 Speaker 1: Very interesting, and you've got a whole range that might 44 00:02:40,973 --> 00:02:42,333 Speaker 1: be growing around the place at the moment. 45 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:46,253 Speaker 2: Yes, there is right, you know, this is actually a 46 00:02:46,293 --> 00:02:50,133 Speaker 2: fantastic year for mushrooms. I've noticed that over the last 47 00:02:50,173 --> 00:02:53,333 Speaker 2: few weeks. But last week I saw Amanita muscaria, which 48 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:57,213 Speaker 2: is that famous red mushroom with the white dots. You know, 49 00:02:57,373 --> 00:02:59,733 Speaker 2: quite a large thing to see it in the lawns, 50 00:02:59,933 --> 00:03:03,093 Speaker 2: and I thought, ships I haven't seen that since, well 51 00:03:03,653 --> 00:03:05,853 Speaker 2: some weird for a long time, and why is it 52 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:08,493 Speaker 2: growing in my garden? And then I looked up and 53 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:12,253 Speaker 2: I saw the birch tree, and I thought, I never 54 00:03:12,893 --> 00:03:15,013 Speaker 2: I know I had a bird tree, but and I 55 00:03:15,093 --> 00:03:17,533 Speaker 2: know they are related. But this is how you get 56 00:03:17,533 --> 00:03:20,733 Speaker 2: these little cock So here you go. This is why 57 00:03:20,773 --> 00:03:24,093 Speaker 2: that creature is there, That that wonderful red thing is 58 00:03:24,173 --> 00:03:29,373 Speaker 2: related to working with beach and some other bloets and pieces. Uh, 59 00:03:30,213 --> 00:03:34,893 Speaker 2: it's it's it's a microizal fungus again that works with 60 00:03:35,093 --> 00:03:38,893 Speaker 2: other fungi and other trees, with the birch, the beach, 61 00:03:39,013 --> 00:03:42,773 Speaker 2: the pine and all that sort of stuff. That's exactly 62 00:03:42,813 --> 00:03:45,693 Speaker 2: what you say. So that's why I thought that fitted nicely. 63 00:03:46,413 --> 00:03:47,893 Speaker 2: And then there are a heck of a lot of 64 00:03:47,933 --> 00:03:49,653 Speaker 2: these things, and you probably see them on the on 65 00:03:49,693 --> 00:03:52,413 Speaker 2: the on the website of a whole lot of different 66 00:03:52,613 --> 00:03:56,213 Speaker 2: creatures that I call creatures almost They are funky, but 67 00:03:56,253 --> 00:04:03,653 Speaker 2: they do a fabulous job of recycling forests, leaves, branches, 68 00:04:03,933 --> 00:04:07,893 Speaker 2: everything that's so beautiful. There's a little picture there of 69 00:04:07,893 --> 00:04:10,453 Speaker 2: what they what they what we call the what you 70 00:04:10,533 --> 00:04:12,813 Speaker 2: call it the bird's nest fungus looks like a little 71 00:04:12,813 --> 00:04:16,653 Speaker 2: bird's nest, sits on a branch and has little spores 72 00:04:16,693 --> 00:04:20,173 Speaker 2: in it that look almost like coins. But it's tiny, tiny, 73 00:04:20,613 --> 00:04:21,893 Speaker 2: beautiful big. 74 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:23,813 Speaker 1: How big is that? How big is the bird's nest 75 00:04:25,013 --> 00:04:26,653 Speaker 1: the finger or something. 76 00:04:28,093 --> 00:04:28,613 Speaker 2: And a half? 77 00:04:28,973 --> 00:04:31,653 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, okay, nothing, nothing, they're tiny. 78 00:04:32,493 --> 00:04:32,973 Speaker 2: Yeah. 79 00:04:32,973 --> 00:04:34,773 Speaker 1: I like those fungus, those ones. 80 00:04:36,573 --> 00:04:39,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I always have to tell kids, you know, 81 00:04:39,773 --> 00:04:42,613 Speaker 2: they look like an ear, they feel like an ear, 82 00:04:43,333 --> 00:04:46,653 Speaker 2: they smell like an ear, and they taste like an ear, 83 00:04:46,933 --> 00:04:51,373 Speaker 2: and they'll go hang on. In the eighteen hundreds, the 84 00:04:51,493 --> 00:04:55,293 Speaker 2: Chu Chung brothers in Taranaki were the first people to 85 00:04:55,373 --> 00:04:59,573 Speaker 2: send container loads of these ear fungi to China. That 86 00:04:59,773 --> 00:05:04,813 Speaker 2: was our very first material that we exported, is the 87 00:05:04,933 --> 00:05:05,933 Speaker 2: root overseas. 88 00:05:06,013 --> 00:05:08,693 Speaker 1: Yes, that's amazing. I had no idea of it in 89 00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:09,853 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds. 90 00:05:10,453 --> 00:05:14,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, early eighteen hundreds. Okay, there you go, oh, there 91 00:05:14,693 --> 00:05:16,893 Speaker 2: you are. And so you've got funky that that buggery 92 00:05:16,893 --> 00:05:18,533 Speaker 2: your plants I know, and your fruits and all this 93 00:05:18,613 --> 00:05:20,533 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But here's the nice one, the last one, 94 00:05:20,613 --> 00:05:24,373 Speaker 2: the collaborative one, and it is the stinkhorn fungus with 95 00:05:24,573 --> 00:05:29,173 Speaker 2: brown material in that little red stinkhorn which is attracts 96 00:05:29,773 --> 00:05:32,973 Speaker 2: the flies and they slover it up and take the 97 00:05:33,013 --> 00:05:38,053 Speaker 2: spores to all over the forest. That is collaboration. Thank 98 00:05:38,093 --> 00:05:39,853 Speaker 2: you RhoD Photos on the website. 99 00:05:39,893 --> 00:05:43,653 Speaker 1: News is Next on Newstalk Z'B. For more from Saturday 100 00:05:43,653 --> 00:05:46,573 Speaker 1: Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live to News Talks EDB 101 00:05:46,773 --> 00:05:50,453 Speaker 1: from nine am Saturday, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio