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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, it'd be do you have someone for

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Speaker 1: me to be one?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I got loads? Can you guess who it is?

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Speaker 2: Do do do? There's Carlie Minoak. She's back. Carlie's back. Uh, well,

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Speaker 2: she's been in the business again. People bug in for

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Speaker 2: a long long time now, but she's just got a

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Speaker 2: new album. That song is called someone for Me, kind

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Speaker 2: of catchy. Twenty four to ten on News Talks, it'd

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Speaker 2: be time to catch up with our film review of

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Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin to get her picks for this weekend killed her?

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Speaker 3: How many times she's back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's never gone. Yeah, I wonder how many albums

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Speaker 2: she's done. I'm going to google that. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: see how many albums Kylie Minoak has done. But I

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Speaker 2: quite didn't mind that felt, you know, felt very on

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Speaker 2: brand for one a bit of a better term. She

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Speaker 2: sold eighty million records. Yeah that's a lot. That's a few, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, she's well, here goes. She's been active since nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy nine, so yeah, I think we probably should stop

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Speaker 2: saying she's back anyway. So we've got two different films

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Speaker 2: to talk about this morning. I'm going to start off

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Speaker 2: by having a little bit of a listen to our

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Speaker 2: first one. This is merchant Ivory. Merchant Ivory, it was

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Speaker 2: just a golden period.

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Speaker 3: I mean, basically, they made the films they wanted to make.

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Speaker 3: It required an immense amount of stamina to work for

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Speaker 3: Merchant Ivery. At the end of every movie, everyone says,

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Speaker 3: never again.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So this is a documentary looking at the relationship

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Speaker 2: between the director, James Ivory and the produce Ishmael Merchant.

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Speaker 3: Yes. And so this is Screening is part of the

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Speaker 3: British and Irish Film Festival and it is kicking off

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Speaker 3: on a twenty third of October. It's running to the

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Speaker 3: thirteenth of November. I love this festival because it really

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Speaker 3: does go across the country. It's going to be in

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Speaker 3: twenty cities. It's got about thirty cinema partners and they've

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Speaker 3: got a really great program this year. And this documentary

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Speaker 3: of Screening is part of the Film Festival, and it

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Speaker 3: takes a look at this film company that took art

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Speaker 3: house period drama and turned them into sort of mainstream

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Speaker 3: global hits and the company was founded in the sixties

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Speaker 3: by Ismael Merchant, who is mentioned as the producer, and

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Speaker 3: James Ivory who was the director writer, and they were

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Speaker 3: life and business partners from about nineteen sixty one through

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Speaker 3: to Merchant's death in two thousand and five. And they

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Speaker 3: also worked with Ruth chab Bucko, who was a who

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Speaker 3: scripted a lot of their films as well. In the

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Speaker 3: eighties they became very well nonmated a series of films

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Speaker 3: such as Quartete, Heat and Dust and The Bostonians. But

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty five they released A Room with a

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Speaker 3: View and many of our listeners will remember this film.

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Speaker 3: It kind of encapsulated what Merchant Ivory was all about.

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Speaker 3: They were renowned for creating films that resonated universally. They

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Speaker 3: had these lush settings, beautiful music, and these complex characters

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Speaker 3: and launched many careers and then often worked regularly with

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Speaker 3: the same cast films such as Morris Howard's End, Remains

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Speaker 3: of the Day, Jefferson and Paris Surviving Picasso, so that

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Speaker 3: all these films will ring about and they came from

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Speaker 3: this one production company. But the same about Merchant Ivory was,

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Speaker 3: even though they were hugely successful, the way that kind

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Speaker 3: of films were distributed and things. In those days, they

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Speaker 3: never had any money. So so Ishmael was a firecracker.

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Speaker 3: Everybody calls them sort of like lots of people, a

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Speaker 3: lot of famous names. In this film, they call him

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Speaker 3: night me to deal with. He never had enough money.

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Speaker 3: He never paid on time, he'd say. He sort of

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Speaker 3: said to one one costume designer, and I think that

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Speaker 3: there were four costumed four people working on costumes with

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Speaker 3: the room of the view, like hundreds and hundreds of thing.

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Speaker 3: Afterwards, on the next film she worked on, he said, Ah,

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Speaker 3: I got you an oscar? Do I really need to

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Speaker 3: pay you? And she's like, yeah, you kind of do.

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Speaker 3: So there's all these fabulous stories and Hugh Grant talks

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Speaker 3: about it as being a wonderful time in filmmaking, and

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Speaker 3: he says, in those days, we fancied each other on seat,

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Speaker 3: you know, the sick crackled with subliminal lust. And nowadays

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Speaker 3: you go on seat, you go on seat and everyone's

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Speaker 3: just sitting there on their phones, not communicating. So lots

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Speaker 3: of wonderful stories about the background. So they just constantly

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Speaker 3: struggled to get these films up and running. And then

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Speaker 3: you had James who was just this gentle, quiet director

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Speaker 3: and people talk about he was just so calm. They

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Speaker 3: were just were They were just complete opposites who came

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Speaker 3: together to create some incredibly well known films. It's a

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Speaker 3: really delightful look at this production. I love the behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes part of the stories and this one's fabulous.

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Speaker 2: That sounds great, Okay, So that is merchant ivory as

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Speaker 2: you say that, showing the British and Iri Film Festival.

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Speaker 2: Also showing at that festival is The.

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Speaker 3: Return, Yes, and this is this film reunites the English

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Speaker 3: Patient stars. Ralph finds Andreuette Binoche for the first time.

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Speaker 3: This is a new take on the Odyssey, but it

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Speaker 3: kind of starts after all the actions taken off and

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Speaker 3: it kind of picks up when our hero returns home

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Speaker 3: after being away for twenty years, and it's really the

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Speaker 3: story of him reuniting with his wife Penelope and finds

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Speaker 3: of Anosha. Both really remarkable. I mean, I can't take

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Speaker 3: my eyes off them when they're on the screen together.

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Speaker 3: But this adaptation, it's very stripped back. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: got a theatrical edge to it. It takes its time.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of silence. This is very much

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Speaker 3: kind of an art house, you know, adaptation of this

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Speaker 3: story for a discerning film goer, but you know, it's

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Speaker 3: got these really interesting themes of virtue and violence and

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Speaker 3: the nature of man. Look for me, it was a

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Speaker 3: little sluggish, but I just love seeing these two on screen.

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Speaker 3: Is another film I would highly recommend, also in the

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Speaker 3: film festival. It's called Conclave and it's from the director

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Speaker 3: of All Quiet on the Western Front, and this is

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Speaker 3: getting huge reviews. There's quite a few films which are

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Speaker 3: coming straight from the Toronto Film Right Can Film Festival,

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Speaker 3: so this will be the first time we get to

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Speaker 3: see them, so definitely worth grabbing a program and checking

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Speaker 3: it out. British and Irish Film Festival dot co dot

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Speaker 3: film read very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hey did you see the film war Horse? Do

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Speaker 2: you remember Horse? Yeah? Yeah, I'm putting you on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So the well that the you know, the

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Speaker 2: author of that store. Did you ever read the book

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 1: No idea?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, tell.

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Speaker 2: Me the author's name, Michael Morpurgo.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we brought my children when they were younger.

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Speaker 3: All his books were the most amazing books to give

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Speaker 3: young readers. They are to kind of absorb big themes

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Speaker 2: You've nailed it. You've given the exact answer that I

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Speaker 2: wanted you to give. So thank you very much for Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's with us after ten o'clock this morning. He's got

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Speaker 2: some really remarkable, like special new books, so he's going

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Speaker 2: to tell us about that after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: And as Francisca says, this year's British and Irish Film

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Speaker 2: Festival has an incredible selection of films. So if you

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Speaker 2: go to a British Film Festival dot co do on

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Speaker 2: nz you will find your cup of tb at drama, comedy,

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Speaker 2: documentaries and more. It is screening nationwide from this Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: the twenty third of October through to the thirteenth of

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Speaker 2: November and we have double tickets to be won, so

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Speaker 2: in order to be in the draw, go and register

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Speaker 2: at Newstalk zb dot co dot nz ford slash win

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Speaker 2: and while you're on the news Talk ZBI website you'll

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Speaker 2: be able to find Francesca's recommendations those films. Merchant Ivory

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Speaker 2: was that first documentary and the second one is the return.

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