1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Devin Funds Management, Greg Smith. Welcome to Monday Mate morning, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Mike Ran, what do you reckon? Yeah, we're braced for 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: some volity. I think that's pretty much pretty much the theme. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: So I guess there's gonna be a lot of eyes 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: on the oil price. As you mentioned, you know, are 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: we going to get a spike of sort of five 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to ten percent or as we're going to go much 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: high as things escalate. So you know, we've seen some 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: predictions that prices could go well north of one hundred 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: dollars a bell, and no one really knows. It's currently 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: around around about seventy five. There's one major economics group 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: over the weekend that modeled a few scenarios, and now 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: you can the most severe case, we get to one 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty hour use inflation goes to six percent. 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's certainly not ideal and obviously would complicate 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: an already complicated picture for the central banks. Of course, 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: we had drone Power last week saying there and no 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: rush to cut rates. Rising all prices also will be 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: a handbrake on economic growth, and yeah, just let the 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: impact to board equity markets. You know, do we get 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: a bit of a risk off sell off. I suppose. Yeah, 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: there was sort of one point to sort of take 23 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: away that you know, we have seen shop like this 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: in the past without sort of understanding what's happening. And 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: markets have shown to be quite resilient. So you look 26 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: at where Middle East as sort of bubbled higher in 27 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: the past and past conflicts, your markets have tended to recover. Yeah, 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: regardless of what they do in the short term. So 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: you go back to the two thousand and three Iraq 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: invasion invasion the benchmark with ease and P five hundred 31 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: that fell nine percent in the week prior a couple 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: of months later it was five percent high, So I 33 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: have to fall in nine percent. So quite a useful 34 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: reminder from vices might not to be too spooked by 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: selling lids to pick up in volatility and the spot 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: of the headlines. It is often the worst time to sellers. 37 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: It was also proven the period since Trump's Liberation Day. 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Obviously the mark old off in the aftermath and then 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: went on to rebound and then some So yeah, we 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. Obviously plenty of interests in 41 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: those developments. Indeed, and I mentioned Andrew Bailey, so he's 42 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: not moving he's sitting at four two five, and yet 43 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: the retail sales down two point seven. That's material, isn't it. Yeah, 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, the UK consumers not in sort of 45 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: great knack. I mean they had had a good month prior, 46 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: but not not so much, not so much in May. 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was well below forecasts for a half 48 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: percent different retail sales and it was the biggest drop 49 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: since Decene betweeny twenty three. Food still sales particularly weak 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: and they were down five percent. So yeah, UK households 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: are scaling, expending and cost of living pressures and the like, 52 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: closing DIY sales they were down it as well. But 53 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: April been quite sunny, so that perhaps changed a little bit. 54 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, UK shops they had splurged, but this came 55 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: to a real hult. And also on the volume side, 56 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: they were down one point three percent on a year ago. 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: That's the biggest drop since April twenty twenty four. So 58 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: eve it was pretty weak. Supermarkets said lower of volumes, 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, other retailers were under pressure and that's also 60 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: what they've been reporting of late. So the interesting thing, though, 61 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: Michael thought was that on the same day there was 62 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: actually a consumer Conference. In the extra release GfK's one 63 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: and it actually rose two points, although needative eighteen probably 64 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: not too much to shout about. It was the best 65 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: reading since twenty twenty two. So there's a bit of optimism, 66 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: maybe the Genoa economic outlook, but everyone sort of still 67 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: seems to think that their finances are not in great shape, 68 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: and maybe they're also aware that the government's finances aren't 69 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: exactly tip top either. So UK public sector borrowing seventeen 70 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: point seven billion pounds in May. It's the second highest 71 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: for the month on record, highest spending link to you, 72 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: yesed it inflation? So UK public sector debt now ninety 73 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: six point four percent of GDP. So you won't ease 74 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: up the pressure on UK Chancellor Rachel Reeves, No, it 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: will not. Have you seen the price of rice in Japan? 76 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: It's double? God, yeah, double, isn't it? So it's absolutely incredible. 77 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: So the staple food, of course very politically sensitive, up 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and two percent in May. So core inflation 79 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: in Japan two year high, up three point seven percent. 80 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: That's the fastest pace since January twenty thirty three. That 81 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: was above estimates. Cost of living inflation that's going to 82 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: be a big election topic next month for the government. 83 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: They've managed to sort of get their popularity up a little. 84 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: They've been trying to lower the cost of grain. But yeah, 85 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the bag of Japan, they're certainly going to take an 86 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: interest in that print. I've been looking to raise interest 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: rates as long as the economy recovers and get inflation 88 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: back towards the two percent target, but it's actually been 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: above that for more than three years. Rates of course 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: are very low in Japan half percent, so a few 91 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: flies in the ointment. We haven't going to trade deal 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: yet with Washington, so they're waiting for that and obviously 93 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: their next economy so they really do need and talked 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: about that previously that they've got these obviously twenty five 95 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: percent auto turfs, so they want to see a deal there. 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: And yeah, the central banks or the Bank of Japan, 97 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: like other central banks, are split on how this is 98 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: all going to impact inflation. Are they going to see 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: cheaper Chinaese imports driving down prices or films generally just 100 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: going to raise prices and wages. So we'll have to see. 101 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: And of course now we have the oil price to 102 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: also sort of contend with, So yeah, a big week 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: for a number of economies. All right, numbers please, So 104 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: the day on Friday was actually up point one percent 105 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: fully two two zero six, the S and P five 106 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: hundred was down point two percent, and nasdek was down 107 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: half percent. For one hundred was down point two percent, 108 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Nickey down point two percent, as was the A six 109 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: two hundred that finished at eight five zero far Indian 110 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: x fifty. Obviously, we were closed to the Mataiki gold 111 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: down two dollars three three and sixty eight US and 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: ounce oil close of course after their strikes, but prior 113 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: to that was up thirty four cents, consuming three spot 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: eighty four a barrel for WTI. And the currencies key 115 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: we lower against the US fifty nine point seven, fled 116 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: against the US dollar ninety two point five, down slightly 117 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: against the British pound forty four point four. Jepany gen 118 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: eighty seven point two's that was up point one percent 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: this week, Mike, we've got card spending with trade data locally. 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: We've got consumer conference here as well. I'm sure use 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: existing home sales, durable goods, use inflation. We've got Pow 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: testifying before SENATECE so that'll be interesting and we've got 123 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: doing some Pedix and Nike, but of course a lot 124 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: of interest on developments of Prospector around go well mate 125 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management. For more from the Mic 126 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks there'd be from 127 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio