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Speaker 1: Setting the news of Jedder and digging into the issues.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duelic Ellen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial and rural

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Speaker 1: news talks, Dad be Real, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Morning, and welcome coming up today for the second time

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Speaker 2: this week. We knew the data was bad, we didn't

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Speaker 2: realize it was going to be quite that bad. We

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Speaker 2: just got the worst year economically since nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 2: according to the GDP data. We'll have a chat to

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Speaker 2: Westpac about that after seven, and then Michael Riddell, formerly

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Speaker 2: of the Reserve Bank, on just how badly Adrian or

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Speaker 2: has actually stuffed this up again the government's having to

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Speaker 2: force UNIS to protect free speech. Well, speak to the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Initiative about that House New Zealand on striking

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Speaker 2: some targets but missing outs, and will wrap the week

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Speaker 2: with Tim and Trisherson.

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Speaker 3: Heather duplicy l.

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Speaker 2: How good is that news out overnight that Liam Dawson's

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Speaker 2: be Lawson's been confirmed as a driver for red Bull

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five. I mean, I know it's kind

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Speaker 2: of been I suppose one of the worst kept secrets

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Speaker 2: in F one of late. So it kind of feels

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Speaker 2: a little today like a Fader company, but actually it

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Speaker 2: isn't at all. And this is an amazing success story

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Speaker 2: for a kid from New Zealand. I mean, you think

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Speaker 2: about it, Liam Lawson's just taken one of only twenty

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Speaker 2: spots available in F one next year. That is an

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Speaker 2: incredible feat for someone from a small country of only

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Speaker 2: a driver he is and what a reward as well,

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Speaker 2: right for all of the sacrifice that he and his

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Speaker 2: family has made to get him to this position. He

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Speaker 2: hand at being a driver. His parents especially had to

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Speaker 2: give up so much for this to happen. That to

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Speaker 2: relocate from Hawks Bay to book a Kobe, to get

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Speaker 2: him to the best place in the country to develop

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Speaker 2: his skills. They even sold their house to be able

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Speaker 2: to keep funding his racing. I mean, that is a

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Speaker 2: massive thing for parents to do when you think about it,

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Speaker 2: to upend their lives and give up their security to

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Speaker 2: give a child a best shot at what a lot

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Speaker 2: of people would have said to them would be a

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Speaker 2: crazy dream for a kid in a country that's only

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Speaker 2: got five million people, And actually this is the first

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Speaker 2: time that it's really starting to pay off. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you might assume that because Liam Lawson's been right up

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Speaker 2: there in the top tier of races in the world,

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Speaker 2: that he was already raking it in. But actually he's

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Speaker 2: been racing on a salary of about one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a year, which is fine, but I mean for

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Speaker 2: somebody with a celebrity he's got, with the skill he's got,

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Speaker 2: with the sacrifice he and his parents have had to

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Speaker 2: make to get there, that's actually a surprisingly small salary,

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Speaker 2: don't you think Now in a year where we have

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Speaker 2: had no end of amazing sports success stories, from lulusun

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever, you would have to say

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Speaker 2: that this story, Liam Lawson's story has got to be

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Speaker 2: right up there who.

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Speaker 3: News of the world. In ninety seconds, Kiers.

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Speaker 2: Starmer has been up in front of the Liaison Committee

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Speaker 2: for the first time and it turns out the UK

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Speaker 2: mirrors our issues when it comes to emergency housing.

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Speaker 4: The numbers you quote to me on hopeless no tempora accommodation, Apauli,

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Speaker 4: that is what we inherited and you will have seen that.

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Speaker 4: Just in the last week to the Deputy Prime Ministers

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Speaker 4: with homelessness and temporary accommodation.

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Speaker 2: Trump's case in Georgia about election subversion hasn't been thrown out,

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Speaker 2: but the DA has been disqualified from being able to

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Speaker 2: prosecute him because of a significant appearance of impropriety.

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Speaker 5: The Georgia Court of Appeals is saying that it's a

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Speaker 5: significant appearance of impropriety caused by the conduct of a

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Speaker 5: public prosecutor. That is willis, how she behaved, how she

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Speaker 2: Now, the Feed and Jerome are worried about Trump's tariffs

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Speaker 2: and the effect they're going to have an inflation.

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Speaker 6: We don't know what'll be tariffed from what countries, for

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Speaker 6: how long, in what size. We don't know whether they'll

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Speaker 6: be retaliatory tariffs. We don't know what the transmission of

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, a bipartisan government spending bill has gone back to

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Speaker 2: the drawing board after only a few days, or rather

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Speaker 2: only a few days before federal funding runs out. After

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Speaker 2: Trump wasn't a fan. Now it has sent as from

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Speaker 2: both sides lamenting that nothing can be done without their

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Speaker 2: else is to blame for one hundred billion dollars in

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Speaker 7: For doose brothers have a lot of political influence right now,

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Speaker 7: because you know, they highlighted a lot of the port

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Speaker 7: and they blew it up, and President Trump was on

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Speaker 2: Giselle Pelicott in France, her husband and fifty others have

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Speaker 2: all been sentenced just in the last few hours for

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Speaker 2: raping her.

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Speaker 8: I'm thinking about the other families affected by this case

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Speaker 8: and the non recognized victims in these stories that are

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Speaker 8: often in the shadows. You must know you share my struggle.

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Speaker 2: Get back to the US. Luisi Mangioni, the shooter, has

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Speaker 2: waived his extradition to New York, agreeing to be transferred,

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Speaker 9: He was occasionally smiling, looked very relaxed. His Pennsylvania attorney

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Speaker 9: Thomas Dicky, had his arm around his chair and it

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Speaker 9: has been a bit of a surface atmosphere here with

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Speaker 9: about a dozen Luigi Mangioni supporters who have come out

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Speaker 2: And finally, the NBA team, the Charlotte Hornets. This year's

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Speaker 2: grinched before Christmas. So what happened is the team did

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Speaker 2: they gave him a PS five for Christmas. Now, how

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Speaker 2: cool is that? A PS five when you're a kid

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Speaker 2: saying it was on an on court skip that missed

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Speaker 2: They're going to give the kids the PS five back

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Speaker 2: and they've invited him to a VIP experience at their

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Speaker 2: EV's are having it tough, but it looks like Tesla

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Speaker 2: a bunch of reasons for this, analysts reckon. Part of

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Speaker 2: the problem is the EU's introduced these seven percent tariffs

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Speaker 2: the EU are shunning the brand because Elon Musk backed

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Thirteen past six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't forget the Kiwi sponsors who are also

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Speaker 2: behind and Liam Lawson, especially road and racing. That's a

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Goney, Brig.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: That recession how bad?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? Pretty bad.

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Speaker 12: So it's the worse since nineteen ninety one if you

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Speaker 13: So we're in a bad spot.

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Speaker 12: The economy's only point one percent bigger than it was

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Speaker 12: one point two percent. That's the eighth consecutive fall. So look,

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Speaker 12: I think it confirms not only that the Urbans was

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Speaker 12: I just wonder if they're talking to real businesses. I

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Speaker 12: more than two months. Agan Or He said that officials

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Speaker 12: if this doesn't draw them out of their batchers, I'm

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Speaker 12: not sure what will.

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Speaker 2: I think you've been proven right as time goes on. Hey,

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Speaker 2: the Fed though, they so it's a lot better in

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Speaker 2: the States. They're not going to have as many cuts

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Speaker 12: if they cut rates by core percent as expected, markets

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Speaker 12: all A wonderful Christmas?

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Speaker 12: I certainly am so a couple of weeks look forward.

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Speaker 2: To mate Gowell, enjoyed a merry Christmas to you, That

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Speaker 2: is Greg Smith of Devon Funds Management. Listen to here's

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Speaker 2: an early Christmas present for Ashburton, who frankly deserve it.

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Speaker 2: You're getting a second bridge. I've been campaigning for this,

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Speaker 2: apparently at council level for about twenty years. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: B Heather, I am speechless. Sonoda had the inside running

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Speaker 1: Now with Chemist were House, the home of Big brand vitamins.

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Speaker 2: So what is it with Hollywood and making weird films

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Speaker 2: about animals? In the last couple of years, We've had

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Speaker 2: Red which is about that giant zombie kangaroo that was

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Speaker 2: point when we get the next movie about a killer unicorn.

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Speaker 11: I need you to act like everything is fine.

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Speaker 3: Is there something in your car?

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Speaker 11: Species in this area are rare?

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Speaker 2: What exactly are we seeing?

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Speaker 11: This is though, I think we know exactly what it is.

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Speaker 15: Horse like mammalia with some sort of protrusial growth.

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Speaker 16: It's a unicorn.

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Speaker 13: I don't think I should be in in swim shorts.

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Speaker 11: For this moment.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is, it seems to be the cure for cancer.

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Speaker 17: Cancer.

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Speaker 2: That that's the biggest one.

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Speaker 3: Have never been so alive.

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Speaker 13: Here's how then we killed Bigfoot on the way home.

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Speaker 2: Now it's called Death of Unicorn. It's built as a

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Speaker 2: We're all going to tune and really enjoy it. By

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Speaker 2: We'll to talk about GDP News is next News Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Adrian Law has been used as a scapegoat for a

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Speaker 2: always going to happen. Steve, I think you might be

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Ashburton is finally getting itself a second bridge to council.

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Speaker 2: There has been campaigning for a bridge a second one

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Speaker 2: for nearly two decades, and Business Canterbury chief executively Anne

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Speaker 20: Now?

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Speaker 2: This is good news. I mean for any place getting

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And for an important piece of infrastructure, how many times

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Speaker 21: So yeah, this is a really significant announcement and you know,

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Speaker 2: You are doing very well as a region, Lely and

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Speaker 2: That's Leanne Watson, Business Canterbury Chief Executive. You're so on this,

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Speaker 2: okayse So yesterday the number I mean, Jesus, well, we're

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Speaker 2: What's going on in Stats New Zealand because yesterday I

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Speaker 2: How what's going on? Stats? Come on guys anyway, listen

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Speaker 2: Westpac Senior economist Michael Gordon's going to be with us

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Speaker 2: after seven o'clock. He'll talk us through the data just

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Speaker 2: how bad it is and fingers crossed out. We threw

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Speaker 2: the worst of it nineteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: Power It by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Be Hey on the drones. By the way, here's a

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Speaker 2: quick update for you. The FAA, which they are the

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Speaker 2: guys in the States to control the skies. Basically, the

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Speaker 2: FAA has banned any drones from flying over parts of

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Speaker 2: certain areas of New Jersey for a full month. They

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Speaker 2: say there will be some exceptions. Obviously they will hand

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Speaker 2: them out for special security reasons and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But if they see drones up there, they are reserving

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Speaker 2: the right to use deadly force against them if they

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Speaker 2: consider that they oppose an imminent security threat. Now what

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Speaker 2: this means is if Biden at l are all right,

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Speaker 2: there's just there are some legit drones up there, and

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Speaker 2: everybody else is just copycatting and making the situation worse.

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Speaker 2: It should clear it up with the ban.

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Speaker 13: How do you use deadly force against something that's not alive.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good question. What it means is that

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Speaker 2: thing is coming down. They're going to actually shoot it down.

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Speaker 2: This that's the best that you could possibly assume from that. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: We'll see if it clears it up or not.

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Speaker 17: It's called it to seven International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance.

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold out of the US is with us right now, Richard.

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Speaker 23: Hello, good morning, Christmas approaching right yep?

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Speaker 2: And a shutdown?

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Speaker 3: Learning yeah?

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Speaker 23: Will there be a shutdown over the holidays with many

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Speaker 23: government workers getting no money, no pay, maybe a delay

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Speaker 23: in pensions for seniors and vets, and again no cash

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Speaker 23: for Christmas. That is entirely possible because of Elon Musk,

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Speaker 23: the world's richest man, has torpedoed a Republican backfunding deal.

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Speaker 23: So now they're scrambling at the minute to fix this

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Speaker 23: thing by deadline time, which is tomorrow night, folks. So

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Speaker 23: far they do not have the by partisan vote numbers

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Speaker 23: to pass another Elon Musk approved spending plan by the

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Speaker 23: time of that deadline. So happy Christmas, app happy end

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Speaker 23: of yew holidays. Elon Musk, by the way, put four

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Speaker 23: hundred and ninety million dollars New Zealand into the Trump

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Speaker 23: election campaign. Since Trump one, Elon has gained a financial windfall.

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Speaker 23: His total wealth, they say, a shot up by three

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Speaker 23: hundred and one billion dollars New Zealand to a grand

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Speaker 23: total of eight hundred and sixty billion. Also, Elon now

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Speaker 23: looks to have taken residence at Marra Lago, Trump's Florida estate.

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Speaker 23: He's there most of the times that would have hanging

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Speaker 23: around now. Elon was not elected to anything. He's just

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Speaker 23: a businessman who gets most of his money from government contracts,

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Speaker 23: especially with SpaceX. But he says the spending bill should

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Speaker 23: not include money for cleaning up after natural disasters hurricanes, fires, flights, tornadoes.

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Speaker 23: Pecked with those folks. And he's posted more than one

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Speaker 23: hundred tweets in the last twenty four hours or exites

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Speaker 23: or whatever and on his social media site that he

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Speaker 23: owns saying the government spending bill should be quashed. In

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Speaker 23: one he says, quote shutting down the government is infinitely

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Speaker 23: better than passing a horrible bill. Well thanks, wy in

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Speaker 23: effect the almost trillionaire. The way this played out has

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Speaker 23: Democrats and some Republicans calling Musks the president or shadow

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Speaker 23: president it was Musk who first delayed the government's spending

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Speaker 23: beat deal. Only after that did Trump sign on with

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Speaker 23: his comments. So who's calling the shots. He's running the show,

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Speaker 23: asked former Republican Congressman Adam Kinsingham.

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Speaker 15: President Musk this morning made it clear with all his

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Speaker 15: vast government experience, which is basically he became rich on

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Speaker 15: the federal government, that he doesn't want Republicans to pass this,

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Speaker 15: and seemingly Vice President Trump kind of backed him up

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Speaker 15: then at that point. And what it says about the

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Speaker 15: politics is this is going to be a messy four years.

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Speaker 23: No Democrat Primula jaypoul says, it is clear who's in charge,

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Speaker 23: and she said, yes, you ain't Trump.

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Speaker 24: It will be their fault that Americans don't get disaster relief,

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Speaker 24: that Americans don't get their Social Security checks. That is

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Speaker 24: on the Republicans. Mike Johnson negotiated a deal with Leader

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Speaker 24: Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden, and now he's

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Speaker 24: reniking on the deal because the shadow President Elon Musk

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Speaker 24: said that we shouldn't be doing this deal.

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Speaker 20: So this is on them.

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Speaker 23: Well, right now, it looks like the only way for

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Speaker 23: the government shutdown to be averted is with Democratic Party

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Speaker 23: votes in the House, will the dam saying Republicans the

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Speaker 23: House Speaker Johnson says the leader of the House Democrats,

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Speaker 23: the Keing Jeffreys.

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Speaker 19: House Republicans will now own any harm that is visited

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Speaker 19: upon the American people that results from a government shutdown.

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Speaker 23: All this puts the Speaker, by Johnson's third in line

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Speaker 23: to the presidency by the way, in danger. Will he

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Speaker 23: survive or will the Republican civil wars take down yet

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Speaker 23: another speaker. That speaker, one of the most senior officials

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Speaker 23: in the government here, was pleading with Musk and his offsider,

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Speaker 23: failed presidential contender Viva co Romaswami until late last night

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Speaker 23: to let the spending deal go through.

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Speaker 25: Elin and Vivek and I are on a text chain

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Speaker 25: together and I was explaining to them the background of this.

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Speaker 6: Remember, guys, we still have just a razor thin margin

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Speaker 6: of Republicans.

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Speaker 23: Really, the elected speaker begging rich outsiders to let him

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Speaker 23: keep the government running. Meantime, Trump and now has jumped

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Speaker 23: on board in support of Elon Musk, while also calling

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Speaker 23: for the amount of the debt the US can have

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Speaker 23: the so called its ceiling to be increased, so it

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Speaker 23: doesn't have to be done on his watch. So on

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Speaker 23: one hand they're calling for spending cuts, on the other

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Speaker 23: demanding a spending cap increase. Also they can blame each

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Speaker 23: other for the living financial woes and all the while

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Speaker 23: who suffers, well, of course it's yeah, government workers, vets,

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Speaker 23: seniors and the poor.

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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, brilliant stuff. Hey listen, Richard, go and have

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Speaker 2: yourself lovely. Christmas has been lovely, chat too, look after yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's Arnald are us correspondent. Heither is that? Seriously? The

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Speaker 2: extent of the news reporting on the drone situation in

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Speaker 2: the East coast of the United States today, it is today,

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Speaker 2: it is collectively, we've been keeping you updated on it,

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Speaker 2: and obviously it goes without saying the reason that we're

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Speaker 2: using deadly force on a drone is because you don't

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Speaker 2: know there might be something in there that needs to

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Speaker 2: be killed, at which point we start playing some X

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Speaker 2: files music, you know what I mean. Birkenstocks Now, Birkenstock

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Speaker 2: has just finished its first full year as a public company,

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Speaker 2: and it is going absolutely gangbusters at the moment. It's

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Speaker 2: beat market expectations and fourth quarter with the sales, the

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Speaker 2: shares are up seven percent as a result. It's managed.

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Speaker 2: What's amazing about it is, given the state of everything,

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Speaker 2: it's managed to do this without doing the pre Christmas discounting.

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Speaker 2: You're actually paying more right now for the products than

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Speaker 2: you were maybe I don't know, a year ago or something,

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Speaker 2: because the average selling prices this year are up eight percent.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that is causing the Birkenstock to do

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Speaker 2: really well at the moment is the clog. Apparently the

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Speaker 2: clog is now making up about a third of its business.

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Speaker 2: And if I can recommend anything to you, right it's

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Speaker 2: not the right season for the clog right now, but

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Speaker 2: you're going to wear your clog next winter. So if

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Speaker 2: you're thinking, oh, what can I get the woman in

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Speaker 2: my life who I love deeply and I don't know

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Speaker 2: what to get her a pair of Birkenstock's clogs. You

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Speaker 2: will change her life. She will be cool. You're welcome

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Speaker 2: ten away from seven Ever.

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Speaker 1: Dupleusy Ellen on the MI casking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News togs head Behether.

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Speaker 2: I've been loving the Strone stuff. I watch every foreign

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Speaker 2: news clip on it. I think, honestly, some of these

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Speaker 2: are of alien origin and shadowed by US military drones.

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Speaker 2: It's great times. Full disclosure is close, Heather, and I'm excited, Steve.

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Speaker 2: You're going to be excited for a while mate. Anyway, listen.

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Speaker 2: Free speech thought, this was fascinating thought. A bunch of

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Speaker 2: universities actually started kind of getting themselves in line on

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Speaker 2: the free speech and figuring out, but obviously not enough,

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Speaker 2: so the government's decided they're going to pass a law

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Speaker 2: on it. So I have a chat about this New

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Speaker 2: Zealand initiatives. Michael Johnston's with us in about twenty minutes time.

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Speaker 2: It's six away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the inns are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level now.

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Speaker 2: Just to make your holiday travel super stress free this year,

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Speaker 2: I thought i'd detail some of the holiday mishap from

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Speaker 2: last year and the money spent trying to sort it out.

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Speaker 2: This is data that comes from Southern Cross Travel Insurance

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Speaker 2: and it looks at claims that are made around Christmas

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Speaker 2: time last year, which actually encompasses the period from November

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Speaker 2: all the way through to February, so it's basically most

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Speaker 2: of your summer travel. Anyway, health emergencies. No surprise. Biggest

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Speaker 2: spender last year, two point sixty seven million dollars was

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Speaker 2: paid out for medical and evacuation claims, with the biggest

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Speaker 2: individual bill being for four hundred and sixty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's for one person. No guesses needed for what country

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Speaker 2: that person was in at the time. There were also

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Speaker 2: individual activity bills, like a nineteen thousand dollar medical claim

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Speaker 2: for a skiing accident. They paid out one million in

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Speaker 2: lost baggage and Christmas gift claims also included everything from

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Speaker 2: stolen bags to smash gifts in check and luggage. Stop

616
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Speaker 2: putting your alcohol in your suitcase, peopole, put it in

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Speaker 2: your carry on bag, then you can avoid that. Bari

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00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: was a major destination for claims. Most of them were medical.

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Speaker 2: Many people needed medical assistance because of the infamous barley belly.

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Speaker 2: So where are we going this summer? That has caused

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Speaker 2: people to get the most insurance for Ossie number one destination,

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Speaker 2: followed by the US and also by Japan. Speaking of Ossie,

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Speaker 2: tell you what's flipping out, old mate, Varnaby Joyce over

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Speaker 2: in Aussie at the moment, it's the gingerbread men, Because

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Speaker 2: what's happened is he's wandered himself down to the Parliamentary

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Speaker 2: Cafe in Canberra, which is probably better than what he

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Speaker 2: used to do, which is wander himself down to the

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Speaker 2: Parliamentary bar. But anyways, it goes gone down to the

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Speaker 2: Parliamentary Cafe for his late afternoon sugarhead and he sees

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Speaker 2: they've changed the gingerbread men into gingerbread people to be

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Speaker 2: gender neutral. And as if that's not bad enough that

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Speaker 2: they've been called gingerbread people, they're also vegan, and as

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Speaker 2: that's not bad enough, they also cost three dollars fifty

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Speaker 2: each in Aussie dollars, so what's that's like seven hundred

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Speaker 2: million New Zealand dollars. You could buy six of them

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Speaker 2: for twenty eight dollars for a bargain. They're not big enough,

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Speaker 2: by the way to be three dollar fifty ones. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: he's so livid. He said, all this stuff's been forced

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Speaker 2: on me. Just leave it. And he's flipped out and

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Speaker 2: he said, the more you do this, the more you

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Speaker 2: piss people off, and the more you encourage a Trump

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Speaker 2: type snapback. That's right, gingerbread people are going to make

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Speaker 2: you so angry. You're going to do a trump on.

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Speaker 13: That the way you've ever done the gingerbread house at

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Speaker 13: this tome of year, bulls it or made it Yeah,

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Speaker 13: both hard?

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Speaker 2: No, have you?

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Speaker 14: Well, I've seen people attempt it on numerous occasions, and

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Speaker 14: it seems to be fraught.

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Speaker 13: The assemblage of the gingerbread house.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that anything to do with food

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Speaker 2: at Christmas time is fraught. And I'm increasingly and quite

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Speaker 2: quickly moving towards what you want to do as a

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Speaker 2: barbecue outside and anything other than that, you're just making

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Speaker 2: your life hard. Stop it. You don't need it.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 2: We're doing GDP next, we're going to do how much

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Speaker 2: adrianall is to blame for this? And we're going to

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Speaker 2: do free speech news togs EDB.

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Speaker 1: Being used bold opinions Heather due to c Allen on

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Speaker 1: the mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover villa designed

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you for the second time this week.

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Speaker 2: We knew that the data was going to be bad,

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Speaker 2: but we didn't know it was going to be this bad,

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Speaker 2: did we? The GDP in the third quarter was down

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Speaker 2: a full percentage point. That's much worse than the zero

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Speaker 2: point two percent that was expected the previous quarter. Q

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Speaker 2: two has also been revised down even further, making this

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Speaker 2: the worst recession that we've had excluding COVID since nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety one. Westpac senior economist Michael Gordon's with us Morning, Michael. Michael,

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Speaker 2: Ye there, Yes, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Why was this so much worse? Do you think than

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Speaker 2: the forecasts?

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Speaker 26: It's never one thing that drives it. I think one

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Speaker 26: thing that did stand out was a little more recognition

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Speaker 26: of the cutbacks in the public sector, which weren't initially

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Speaker 26: being fully captured the figures we were looking at three

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Speaker 26: months ago.

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Speaker 2: This does this, to some extent, explain what we were

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Speaker 2: hearing from people out there who were saying, this is

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Speaker 2: really tough, it's the worst thing we've seen in forty years,

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Speaker 2: and these figures back it up.

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Speaker 27: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: I think it's certainly showing that the kind of grind

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Speaker 26: that we've had really through this year is now showing

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Speaker 26: up a bit more fully than that the GDP numbers

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Speaker 26: that we saw three months ago. I tend to think

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Speaker 26: because GDP can be revised a lot, I tend to say,

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Speaker 26: if you want to know what's going on in the

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Speaker 26: economy right now, Probably best to look at the jobs

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Speaker 26: numbers because they're not vulnerable to the same kind of issues,

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Speaker 26: and they had been telling a similar story. We did

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Speaker 26: see quite a cutback in jobs through the middle part

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Speaker 26: of this year, especially. They look to have stabilized a

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Speaker 26: bit more recently, and we're also seeing things like business confidence,

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Speaker 26: consumer confidence surveys. People are feeling a little bit more upbeat.

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Speaker 2: Now, how do we explain stats getting the second quarter

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Speaker 2: figures so badly wrong? Going originally saying it was negative

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Speaker 2: zero point two and now saying it's negative one point one.

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Speaker 26: It's a terribly boring explanation. I'm afraid there's a lot

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Speaker 26: of it came through changes in the way that they

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Speaker 26: adjust for seasonality in the numbers, So it's really about

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Speaker 26: it doesn't change the overall growth rate, it kind of

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Speaker 26: changes when they think the growth occurred within the year.

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Speaker 26: I'm not entirely happy with what they've done with it,

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Speaker 26: to be honest. I think it might be revised again

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Speaker 26: in the future, up or down. I think probably that

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Speaker 26: court will go up, others will go down.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, look when you look at it broken down

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Speaker 2: by sector, it feels like some of the stuff that's

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Speaker 2: happened in Q three or stuff we couldn't have dodged,

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Speaker 2: like the decline in electricity and gas, and we've got

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Speaker 2: no control over that, and I guess some of the

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Speaker 2: decline and manufacturing is related to that. Or am I

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Speaker 2: being a little too generous here?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 26: There's always one off things in these numbers that you

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Speaker 26: sort of look through and as a full cast or

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Speaker 26: I'm sort of going, well, I know that the hydro

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Speaker 26: lakes are full now, so I don't think we'll have

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Speaker 26: the same issues with electricity, but it always happens. I

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Speaker 26: think if you move through you can see things like

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Speaker 26: we've seen sectors like construction, manufacturing, retail. You know, they've

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Speaker 26: kind of been in decline for a while and they're

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Speaker 26: quite cyclical, quite interest rate sensitive sectors. So it was

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Speaker 26: really telling a story of we had high interest rates

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Speaker 26: for the last year or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael, thanks, it's really good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: That's Michael Gordon, Westpac senior Economists. Just to give you

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Speaker 2: some international comparison to understand how badly we're doing. We

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Speaker 2: went backwards in Q three one percent, right, negative one,

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Speaker 2: Australia up zero point three, Canada up zero point three,

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Speaker 2: China up zero point nine, Japan up zero point three,

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Speaker 2: Britain up zero point one, United States up zero point seven,

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Speaker 2: coming up eleven past seven, Heather do for clan prison

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Speaker 2: of courses? What does this say about the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: who deliberately engineered the recession that we find ourselves in?

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Speaker 2: Former Reserve Bank economist Michael Radella's with us. Hey, Michael,

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Speaker 2: do you think the Reserve Bank has made a mistake

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Speaker 2: sending us to a three month summer break with an

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Speaker 2: ocr setting this high above neutral?

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Speaker 27: I mean the three months summer break as a bad

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Speaker 27: core always has been on their part. The data do

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Speaker 27: come through and they need to be able to respond.

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Speaker 27: The government tells us that, you know, they can have

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Speaker 27: emergency meetings if they need to, but you know it's

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Speaker 27: always going to be a very high threshold for that,

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Speaker 27: so they should have changed that calendar. The bigger question

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Speaker 27: still is the held monetary policy too tight for too long?

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Speaker 27: You know, it's only six months ago they were talking

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Speaker 27: about raising rates further. That was just clearly out to lunch.

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Speaker 2: Have we met the threshold for them coming back during

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Speaker 2: the break do you think?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 27: I don't think so I'd be really surprised. You they'll

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Speaker 27: be looking outwards the CPI coming out in the second

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Speaker 27: half of January, and they wouldn't want to do anything

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Speaker 27: before that. Months that's come out, they have to work

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Speaker 27: the numbers through their forecast, and then they'll go, it's

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Speaker 27: only three weeks until I'm next, And so what do.

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Speaker 2: You reckon seventy five basis points in February?

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Speaker 27: Oh, I think that's still a big call. I think

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Speaker 27: you know, they were talking pretty confidently at fifty points

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Speaker 27: in February at last the NPS. I think that's still

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Speaker 27: the most likely move. What's more likely is that we

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Speaker 27: see a continued succession of cuts during next year. You know,

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Speaker 27: he's hit a number of economists going for fifty points

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Speaker 27: in February, and then things might start to tail off

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Speaker 27: quite rapidly. I suspect what we'll see if inflation continuing

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Speaker 27: to fall away faster, and they'll need to be cutting

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Speaker 27: rates towards three or maybe even under three by the

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Speaker 27: remember of the next year.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon Adrian or thought when he saw

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Speaker 2: that number yesterday? Do you reckon that was what he wanted?

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Speaker 2: Or may have realized that he overcooked everything.

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Speaker 27: I'm sure it wasn't what he wanted his focus, and rightly,

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Speaker 27: central banks always focused on the inflation numbers. Inflation has

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Speaker 27: been coming down a bit faster, and they appreciate it,

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Speaker 27: but they had already got that in the bag. They'll

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Speaker 27: look at that and go, oh, my goodness, you know

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Speaker 27: what's happened here. Some of that, of course, is about

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Speaker 27: those revisions from statistics. New Zealand Reserve Bank can't control that.

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Speaker 27: But some of it, standing back still, is that we

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Speaker 27: had a really big inflation probably a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 27: and it was always like here that it was going

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Speaker 27: to need something pretty nasty to get that down. In

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Speaker 27: some ways, it's puzzling that other countries haven't needed something

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Speaker 27: quite so bad yet. But there are still challenges there

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Speaker 27: in the US, for example, where they're saying, look, you know,

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Speaker 27: maybe inflation hadn't come down as far as we would

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Speaker 27: have liked.

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Speaker 2: Michael's good to talk to you. Thank you, Michael Riddell,

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Speaker 2: Former Reserve Bank economist heller Do for see Ellen Luigi Mangioni,

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Speaker 2: who is the shooter in the healthcare CEO situation. He's

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Speaker 2: just arrived in New York. Geez. They've moved fast on

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Speaker 2: the seven day, just arrived in New York because he

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Speaker 2: was fighting the extradition order. Didn't want to have to

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Speaker 2: go to New York to face his charges, and gave

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Speaker 2: up on that. This morning, they flew him out pretty

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Speaker 2: much immediately flew him apparently because they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: drive them because they didn't want to know Ja Simpson's

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Speaker 2: situation all over again. So he's landed just in the

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Speaker 2: last few minutes, and he's had to do the perp

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Speaker 2: walk across the tarmac. And I'll tell you what there are.

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Speaker 2: Hey is vastly outnumbered by agents there. I reckon there

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Speaker 2: would be easily two dozen agents around him. He's iness

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Speaker 2: of an orange suit and they are all around them

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Speaker 2: with their guns and their helmets, and it's quite full

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Speaker 2: on the way that they're dealing with this one. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's made for quite the spectacle in a story that is, well,

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Speaker 2: I suppose, in a weird where quite spectacular. Seventeen at

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Speaker 2: fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: That'd be either if the worst recession in nearly forty

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Speaker 2: years doesn't meet the Reserve Bank threshold for an emergency meeting.

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Speaker 2: What does very good question seventeen past seven. Now, the

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Speaker 2: government's decided to give UNIS a bit of a hand

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Speaker 2: sorting out their free speech guidelines. All will be passed

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Speaker 2: forcing the UNIS to adopt a freedom of speech statement

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Speaker 2: and then also banning them from taking any positions on

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Speaker 2: issues unrelated to their core functions, like the war and Gaza,

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Speaker 2: for example, with US now as former Victoria Universe and

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Initiative, Senior Fellow Michael Johnston, Heymichael.

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Speaker 28: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Aren't they already legally supposed to do this because of

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Speaker 2: the Education Act and the Bill of Rights?

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Speaker 11: Yes, they are.

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Speaker 28: The Education and Training Act certainly makes very clear their

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Speaker 28: obligations to provide a venue for academics and students to

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Speaker 28: freely discuss ideas and challenge controversial ideas and so on,

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Speaker 28: and the Human Rights Act guarantees freedom of speech. The

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Speaker 28: problem is that if they don't uphold those obligations, then

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Speaker 28: academics and students have very little recourse. They can go

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Speaker 28: to court or perhaps the Human Rights Tribunal, but those

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Speaker 28: time consuming exercises and onerous and in the case of

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Speaker 28: the courts, expensive, so they need.

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Speaker 27: A bit of help.

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Speaker 2: So how does this law change it? Does it give

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Speaker 2: them a course?

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Speaker 28: Well, one of the stipulations is that there needs to

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Speaker 28: be a robust complaints procedure, so yes, it really would

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Speaker 28: help with that.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel about this, I mean, in an ideal world,

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Speaker 2: you want them to sort of get to the point

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Speaker 2: where they realize how important free speeches of their own ecotomy.

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Speaker 28: Well, an ideal world for sure, and in fact, in

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Speaker 28: the past it's been a lot better. I've been around

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Speaker 28: university is a very long time. My father was an

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Speaker 28: academic and I remember an environment that was very different

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Speaker 28: to the current one. So the culture is the root

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Speaker 28: problem in universities, and in particular the culture in the

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Speaker 28: university management.

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Speaker 2: Now, the problem is if you're forcing it on them

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Speaker 2: rather than them voluntarily and through their own intelligence realizing

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Speaker 2: how important free speeches, then aren't they just going to

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Speaker 2: find other ways to get around it and do what

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Speaker 2: they want anyway, like citing health and safety.

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Speaker 28: Well there's a risk of that for sure, and this

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Speaker 28: is not a silver bullet to solve the cultural problem,

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Speaker 28: but I do think that it's necessary and hopefully it

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Speaker 28: will shake them up enough to instigate a culture change.

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Speaker 28: Now that will take time. The cultures don't change over

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Speaker 28: the all right, And certainly I would say that the

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Speaker 28: problems on campuses are in part a result of a

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Speaker 28: political bias pretty strongly to the left, and there's a

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Speaker 28: lack of viewpoint diversity amongst staff as a result of that.

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Speaker 28: That's the sort of thing that requires quite a long

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Speaker 28: process to change. But in the immediate term, I do

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Speaker 28: think that universities need some help to recognize their existing obligations.

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Speaker 3: As you've said, it.

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Speaker 2: Really is like putting training wheels on the Michael, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Michael Johnston, former Victoria University dean and Initiative New Zealand

876
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Initiative senior fellow. By the way, that judge who verbally

877
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Speaker 2: allegedly verbally attacked, well, she did admit it. She admitted

878
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Speaker 2: that she was rude in the bit out of hand, right,

879
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: So anyway, the judge was a bit rude to Winston

880
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: Peters after the Christmas party is now under investigation by

881
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Speaker 2: the Judicial Conduct Commission. Apparent the commission has just done

882
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: this off his own accord. He read what had happened,

883
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: he read some media commentary on it, decided and our

884
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: best to have a look at this then, so a

885
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: preliminary examination is now underway. And even if he hadn't

886
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: reached this position of his own accord, it sounds like

887
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: he might have got there anyway because due to the

888
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: Collins Attorney General Center letter, and there was also a

889
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: complaint from a member of the public. So there you go.

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00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: That's being sorted out right now here. The Luxon is

891
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: not one of my favorite people, but I have to

892
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: say I admire and salute his stance on not attending

893
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: White Tounguy Day. Let's deal with us next seven to twenty.

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00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,880
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Speaker 2: That'd be Health New Zealand have been set those targets.

897
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: They've missed a couple of them. They're doing okay on

898
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Speaker 2: a couple of them. We'll talk to the chief executive,

899
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Speaker 2: Marji Upper after half past seven now seven to twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I think on the White Tonguey Day thing, I think

901
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: Chris Luxen's made the right call not going to White

902
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Tongy next year. I mean, I think he's going to

903
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: copy it from the press gallery for being a woss.

904
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: But the rest of us have probably been around long

905
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: enough to see the logic in this one. We know

906
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Speaker 2: by now White Tounguy is volatile and unpredictable at the

907
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: best of times. I mean, you can Coppadildo in the

908
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: face for doing absolutely nothing. So imagine how intense it's

909
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Speaker 2: going to be next year with the Treaty Principal's build

910
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: debate and full swing in the Select Committee process underway

911
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: already and everything going on already. Willie Jackson's warned the

912
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister about his safety if he goes up there.

913
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: Will He said, Apparently Mari are angry and you just

914
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: never know. Now, it's hardly quite apart from what WILLI

915
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: said here, it's hardly as if Chris Luxon is being

916
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: made to feel like he is welcome to attend. He's

917
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: apparently being told he's not allowed. He is allowed to

918
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Speaker 2: come on the sixth, which is why Tangy Dad, but

919
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: then he's not allowed to come on the fourth because

920
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Speaker 2: he's not welcome at the big meeting that the National

921
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: Ee Chairs Forum hosts every year where everybody else is

922
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: going to be. He's had a letter from the Hekoy

923
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: organizers telling him he's not welcome at White Toungy at all.

924
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: He loses nothing by giving this event Tomis next year.

925
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: I doubt very much he's going to win votes if

926
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Speaker 2: he ends up going. He could actually instead lose votes

927
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Speaker 2: by going and standing there like a pin art are

928
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Speaker 2: taking a verbal bashing over a bill that's actually not

929
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Speaker 2: his Politically, he's smart to put some space between himself

930
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Speaker 2: and that bill. He is better off leaving the defending

931
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Speaker 2: of that bill to the guy who's actually responsible for it,

932
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Speaker 2: who's David Seymour, who says he is actually going up

933
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Speaker 2: so Lux and I think can actually say he's done enough.

934
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Speaker 2: He's been there two years in a row a ready,

935
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Speaker 2: He's shown respect, he's defended his corner. He's not being

936
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Speaker 2: made to feel welcome, he has been threatened by Willie Jackson.

937
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Speaker 2: Right minded people I think absolutely will understand why he

938
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Speaker 2: may not want to go, and frankly why he shouldn't

939
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Speaker 2: have to go.

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Speaker 3: Heather duplusy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed this, but we've just

942
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: had three blokes on the program, Michael, Michael and Michael So.

943
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: We had Michael Gordon talking about GDP. We had Michael

944
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: Riddell talking about the OCRO med Michael Johnston talking about

945
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: free speech. Now, do you know what we've missed an

946
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: opportunity because if we would have jackpotted, if we had

947
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Michael Hoskins sitting here, and we could have had four

948
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Speaker 2: Michaels all in a row having chats to it, isn't

949
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Speaker 2: that weird?

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Speaker 13: Not to mention the fact that the next person we're

951
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 13: talking isn't called Michael either. That's annoying.

952
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: Margie is close enough, though, we can make her an

953
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: honorary Michael. It's a little bit like.

954
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Speaker 13: You know, when you go I would have accepted a Mikayla.

955
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Speaker 2: Yeah, next three year. It's a bit like you know,

956
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: when you go to Mexico and everybody's called Jose, or

957
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: if you go to a Middle Eastern country, everybody's called Mohammad.

958
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: You come to New Zealand everybody's called Michael. So I

959
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: don't know if you're having a baby next year or

960
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: in the remaining days of this year and you're you're

961
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: short on names. I mean, I think we've sorted it

962
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: out for you. In fact, I'm having a baby. In fact,

963
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Speaker 2: I'm having a baby, and I should call her Michael,

964
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: and that wouldn't be weird. I've heard of people calling

965
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: baby girls Michael before. How was this just quickly for

966
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: serendipity in solving a crib and get a load of this? Okay,

967
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Speaker 2: Back in November last year, there was a guy who

968
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Speaker 2: was living in Spain who was reported missing by a relative.

969
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: The relative got a little bit suspicious because out of

970
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Speaker 2: the blue, the guy in Spain started texting him and

971
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Speaker 2: sending weird messages from the phone saying, Oh, I've met

972
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Speaker 2: a new girlfriend. I'm going to leave Spain, I'm getting

973
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Speaker 2: rid of the phone, blah blah blah. And the relative

974
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Speaker 2: was like, this is not like this, this is not

975
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Speaker 2: like this person. So reported it to the coppers investigating,

976
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Speaker 2: but they do nothing for months. Then last month, November,

977
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Speaker 2: a year later, the cops arrest the guy's actual girlfriend

978
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Speaker 2: and the girlfriend's new boyfriend because of Google Images. Because

979
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 2: what happened is in October this year, one month before

980
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: the arrest, the Google Images car drives down this random

981
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: little street in a tiny town of only about fifty

982
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: six people in Spain, snaps a picture of a red

983
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: car on the side of the road and there's a

984
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: guy hunched over the boot of the red car with

985
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: a white sack putting into it, which is the body,

986
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: So Google drives by and literally takes a picture of

987
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: the guy trying to get rid of the body. They

988
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: find the body the tulso in a nearby Hamlets cemetery.

989
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: How weird is that?

990
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 8: You go?

991
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 16: What is news's next?

992
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers? Can then Duplessy

993
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Allen on the my casking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate,

994
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks

995
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Speaker 1: head Hey on.

996
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: That amazing news about Liam Lawson finally getting the seat

997
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: for next year in the F one. We're gonna have

998
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: a chat to Bob McMurray about it before the end

999
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: of this hour. Hither the Prime Minister should man up

1000
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: and go and defend his actions up at White Tonguey.

1001
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: But he will do what cowards do and just run

1002
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: and hide. Shameful man, Just a coward, Jamie. Actually it's

1003
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: not his actions though, as it's David Seymour's and he's

1004
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: going up to defend it. So what's the problem. Twenty

1005
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: three away from eight Love howth New Zealand has released

1006
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: the first of its quarterly performance reports. It's winning with

1007
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: two of the measures. It's gone backwards on to Health

1008
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: New Zealand's chief executive is Marjorie Upper Morning, Marjie, So, okay,

1009
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: so you're winning with the shorter days in emergency departments,

1010
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: you're winning with the shorter wait times for elective elective treatment.

1011
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: What's going on with the specialist appointment waiting time blowing

1012
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: out like it has?

1013
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 16: Well, that's a real challenge because we have, of course,

1014
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 16: it's a bit like a tank more people coming in

1015
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 16: or being referred into specialist assessments than people being referred

1016
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 16: and then moved on to either treatment or back to

1017
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 16: primary care. So that is a volume challenge that we

1018
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 16: do need to try.

1019
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 27: To get on top of.

1020
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Do you think it's even worse than that looks here,

1021
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: because we've heard that some specialists not even adding people

1022
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: to the waiting list because it's already so Choker, Well.

1023
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 16: That's good that maybe I'm true, because we are looking

1024
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 16: into the GP referrals that are declined because our services

1025
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 16: believe they don't have the capacity, and it's really important

1026
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 16: that we do accept patients who meet the clinical criteria

1027
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 16: for a service, and actually the capacity issue of something

1028
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 16: we need to work on as a service.

1029
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: So why are they doing this by the way, I mean,

1030
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: why not take them on, just add them to the

1031
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: bottom of the list. Why say no?

1032
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 16: Oh, look, I think our services feel quite challenged by

1033
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 16: taking on patients and they're not being able to offer

1034
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 16: them certainty and where they can book an appointment. And

1035
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Speaker 16: this is a practice set's been going on in some

1036
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 16: hospitals for many years. So we actually want to find

1037
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 16: some light on that properly. And look that in many cases,

1038
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Speaker 16: if you're working with primary care to support them with

1039
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 16: some more tools like diagnostics, us funding them to actually

1040
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 16: get engaged in providing some of that specialist support, you know,

1041
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 16: there are lots of solutions that we could look at

1042
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 16: to try to address that.

1043
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1044
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: Now, the second thing that you guys are going backwards

1045
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: on is the immunization rates for kids around about two

1046
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: years old. What's going on here?

1047
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's really stubborn and you know, we've got to

1048
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 16: do a lot of work to get confidence back in

1049
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 16: immunization post COVID, But there is some hope we have

1050
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 16: a massive uplift and Patussus boosterricks to deal that at

1051
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 16: the moment. And so we do think that if we're

1052
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 16: our job is to get the information out tell our patients,

1053
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 16: get trusted people into communities to let them know that

1054
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Speaker 16: these vaccines are safe. You know, we know that that

1055
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Speaker 16: that has booken into Tassas as recent as November, and

1056
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Speaker 16: you know we need to apply that across the country.

1057
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Speaker 2: Is this a COVID thing? Is this? Is this a

1058
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: result of people not wanting you know, forcing the jab

1059
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: on people during COVID, them not wanting that, them going

1060
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole and now they've gone off all

1061
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Speaker 2: jabs altogether.

1062
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Speaker 16: Well, it's certainly what there's some of the survey and

1063
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 16: feed that we've had from consumer groups tell us that

1064
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 16: there is this trust in vaccines in general because of COVID.

1065
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 16: But you know, I need to remind people these vaccines

1066
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 16: well proven of them. We've been using them for a

1067
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Speaker 16: long time in our health systems. That evidence is pretty

1068
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 16: sound and so you know that the it's really important

1069
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 16: that we do rebuild that trust.

1070
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not going to work saying that though,

1071
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Speaker 2: is it? Because that's what Jasinda said about the vaccine

1072
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Speaker 2: and then and then and then people kind of felt

1073
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: the opposite about us. We probably lost them, haven't we.

1074
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 16: Well there are some that and and we are keeping

1075
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 16: a close eye on the decline rates because we do

1076
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Speaker 16: count the people who are offered a vaccine and then

1077
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Speaker 16: have declined, and then we want to understand why, and

1078
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Speaker 16: it varies around the country. But certainly we've also learned

1079
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Speaker 16: and communities have told us and we who also led

1080
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Speaker 16: us through COVID, if there's a trust person that comes

1081
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Speaker 16: into your community, whether it's the mud, I know that

1082
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 16: that as somebody who actually you know, is informed and trained,

1083
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 16: that can be really helped. For the other opportunity we're

1084
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Speaker 16: opening up as other people being able to vaccinatees. So

1085
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Speaker 16: we've got pharmacies training to do. You know, there are

1086
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Speaker 16: over two hundred now who can do a whole of

1087
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 16: life vaccination, including under two midwives and vaccinats, but also Plunkett.

1088
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 16: So we're really pleased to see Plunkett joining the vaccination

1089
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 16: team that.

1090
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: It'll be helpful. Are you getting a break this year?

1091
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 26: Yes, yes i am.

1092
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 16: I'm looking forward to finishing work early next week.

1093
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: I feel like you deserve it, Margie, after all of

1094
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: the year that you've been through. Merry Christmas and go well,

1095
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: that's Marjorie Upper Health, New Zealand Commissioner. Hither the issue

1096
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: with immunization rates is the funding model for providers. I

1097
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: call absolute bs on that. The reason I call bs

1098
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: on that is because as you know, having a baby,

1099
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: Michael is going to arrive next year, you know, in

1100
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: like about five weeks time. Thank god, Lord let it

1101
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: go fast. Anyway, So when baby before baby Michael arrived,

1102
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: I you know, but well recently before, in preparation of

1103
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: baby Michael arriving, I got in touch with various members

1104
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: of the family and I said, listen's probably been a

1105
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: little wile since you had your hooping cough up. Your jab.

1106
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: JAB got to get it every five years or so,

1107
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: and we've got a hoop and coff epidemic going on,

1108
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: So can you just go get yourself like, you know whatever.

1109
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: So my mum went and got her jab a couple

1110
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: of days ago, done the right thing. Two members of

1111
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: the family, which probably means it impacts about six members

1112
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: of the family are not going to get the hooping

1113
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: cough jabs because they have gone all weird because of

1114
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: the owner. They've gone totally lost their trust in jabs.

1115
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: Will not get the hooping cough jab And the only

1116
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: way around that is basically we can't see them for

1117
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: six weeks because it's sort of like, well, you could

1118
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: see them, but then you could end up with a

1119
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: dead baby, and who wants that. So I don't want

1120
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: baby Michael to die because because somebody in the family

1121
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to get a job. So I call base

1122
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: on that. I think what's gone on? And I think

1123
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: this is when you sit there and you sit in judgment,

1124
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: and you go, we did the right thing, forcing people

1125
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: to get the JAB and do the mandates. Just ask

1126
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: yourself if it really was the right thing, because now

1127
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: we've got a really big problem trying to givince people

1128
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: that we're right when we say trust the hooping cough

1129
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: jab and go and get it. The father also needs

1130
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: to get it. But that's the problem. There is not

1131
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: JAB resistance. It's just mail and competence, isn't it. In

1132
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,479
Speaker 2: terms of organizing a doctor's visit, Helen Clark Heather didn't

1133
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: go to white tonguey on at least one occasion, so

1134
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: it's no big deal.

1135
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 17: Seventeen away from it, the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show

1136
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 17: podcast on iHeartRadio, how ad By News.

1137
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: Talks, it'd be hither your baby Michael will be a dragon? Well,

1138
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean that would be kind of cool, wouldn't it.

1139
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: So you're weird, aren't you? Honestly?

1140
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 22: Wow?

1141
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's taking, that's taken, going down. The rabbit

1142
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: holds to a new level. Baby have a Potassa's jab.

1143
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: Baby comes out a dragon. That's awesome.

1144
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 13: Here, the virus theory is a fraud.

1145
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: Do your research, seat, do your own research. There we go,

1146
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: there we go. Started that thing off. Anyway, I got

1147
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: the jab. I'll let you know if the baby comes

1148
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: out as a dragon, all perfectly fine and doesn't die

1149
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: of hooping cough, which is kind of where I'm going

1150
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: with this. Hopefully Mike has got an award. He's got

1151
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: an award, do I want to? Okay, Well, he's got

1152
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: an award in his absence. There is Look, I don't

1153
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: know if you if you're aware of this, and I

1154
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: don't recommend doing your own research on this one, but

1155
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: there is a little podcast on a rival radio station,

1156
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: and I think the clue is in rival radio station

1157
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: called media Watch, and it's not very good. I'm not

1158
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. I've listened to it from time.

1159
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: I've stopped listening to it because it's not very good

1160
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: and it's just a little bit whiney, but anyway, so

1161
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: in the spirit of being whiney, they've given Mike an award.

1162
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: They say they've compared him to Jack and they've said,

1163
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: look good, look at how good Jack is. Jack's so awesome.

1164
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: Jack does all these interviews and he's really hard on

1165
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: the politicians. Mike's not like that. Mike takes a different tack.

1166
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: Back in February, a listener asked Mike why he seemed

1167
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: to give the Prime Minister an easier ride than opposition politicians,

1168
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: and he replied, Mate, he hasn't done anything apart from

1169
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: open some envelopes and they've exploded in his face. Let

1170
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: him get his feet under the table, get a bit

1171
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: of legislation passed, and then in three years time, when

1172
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: he has another crack, watch me give him a hard time.

1173
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: You bet I will. They say, an interesting strategy to

1174
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: promise the Prime minister an easy ride for a full term,

1175
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: but would he stick to that position or the following

1176
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 2: month he offered lux in a reassurance, I'm feeling sorry

1177
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: for you. There's a bomb going off every day, Osking

1178
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: told the Prime Minister. I'm glad you feel sorry for me,

1179
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: said the Prime minister back to him, and because of that,

1180
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: he has got the holding power to account award from

1181
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: Media Watch. Now, that would be fine if that's what

1182
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: actually happened, But it didn't happen, did it, Because I

1183
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: don't know. If you've been tuning into to Mike regularly

1184
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: like the rest of the country, media Watch, you probably

1185
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: should have given you the name of your podcast. He's

1186
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: been tough on Luckxon, like quite tough on Luxon.

1187
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 3: So come on, give me a break.

1188
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: There we go see Luxon's even begging for a break

1189
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: from Mike. I got an award. I got an award

1190
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: because in September, I let you know that Samian Brown's

1191
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: nickname is Golden Balls, because he gets everything right. Because

1192
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: I was told that the caucus colleagues have called him

1193
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: God Golden Balls, and I did say, I don't know

1194
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: if this is true, but I'm going to tell you regardless,

1195
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: because I only got told by one person, and normally

1196
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: you need to stack it up with a couple of sources. Anyway,

1197
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: when Media Watch scoured the archives and the internet, because

1198
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: that's what you do if you're in caucus, you go,

1199
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: you know what Samion Brown's nickname as Golden bulls, So

1200
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to put it on the internet. No, you

1201
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: don't weirdos anyway. We could find no references out of

1202
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: z B to the bull zy name. Yeah, because nobody

1203
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: puts it out like we don't put your nicknames on

1204
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: the internet. Media watch anyway. Political journalists spoken to and

1205
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: confidence could not confirm or deny the existence of the nickname.

1206
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: One said they'd never heard of it. Well, because not

1207
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: listening to news talk ZB are they for listening to

1208
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: media watch? We know a lot if you're listening to

1209
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: media watch anyway, the Golden Balls source should reveal themselves

1210
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: to end the suspicion and until them Heather, Until then

1211
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: Heather gets the award for baseless rumor of the Year.

1212
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to take that. I'm going to take because

1213
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: that's going to get me in with the vaccine crowd

1214
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: as well, because I'm spreading disinformation.

1215
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 13: So I went anyway, So this is all big news

1216
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 13: to me that these I was not aware that we

1217
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 13: had a rival radio station.

1218
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't aware of it. Once upon a time,

1219
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: I was aware of it, but lately I thought I

1220
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: didn't realize that they still existed. However, what I would

1221
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: say is. I am really stoked that they are handing

1222
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: out awards, which is a very very generous attitude from them,

1223
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: given that awards is not something coming their way. Thick

1224
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: and Fast, ten away from.

1225
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: Eight Heather dupasy Allen on the My Costing Breakfast with

1226
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: the Range Rover Villa News, Tom sadb.

1227
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: Hey by the way, Tim Wilson, Trisherson, they're going to

1228
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: be with us after eight to wrap the newsweek, but

1229
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: actually just the whole year. Why not seven away from eight? Now,

1230
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: as you've heard this morning, the speculation is finally over

1231
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: and Liam Lawson has been named as Red Bulls next

1232
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: full time F one driver. He's going to partner with

1233
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: Max Verstappen. His days being on a one hundred thousand

1234
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: dollars salary as a reserve driver are over. He's going

1235
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: to be in the big money now. Motorsport expert and

1236
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: former McLaren Race member Bob McMurray is with us right now.

1237
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: Bob, Hello, good morning.

1238
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: Have Where does he rate? I mean, we have had

1239
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: a lot of very very high profile drivers come out

1240
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: this country. Where does he rate? Is he the most

1241
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: high profile?

1242
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: No?

1243
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 22: Well, I don't suppose he's got much of a profile

1244
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 22: internationally at the moment, compared to the likes of Bruce

1245
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 22: McLaren's any Holme pre sem and that sort of thing.

1246
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 22: But he's certainly joined their ranks, hasn't he, in that

1247
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 22: he is a Formula one driver, But he's been a

1248
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 22: Formula one driver for eleven races. Now, of course he's

1249
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 22: an old hand, isn't he.

1250
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: How do you reckon he's going to go when he's

1251
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: racing with Maxim Stepan, because the problem is Max has

1252
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: got a really weird style, doesn't he.

1253
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 22: Yeah, apparently he sets his car up definitely to everybody else.

1254
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 22: But what Liam is going to have to do is

1255
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 22: adapt completely. I mean, you know, it is great news.

1256
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 22: It's a vindication for him, indication for his family, of

1257
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 22: indication for news and motorsport in the way that the

1258
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 22: motorsport ladder has got him from kating all the way

1259
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 22: through to Formula One. Okay, he's done it himself obviously,

1260
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 22: but that ladder was there and he is now at

1261
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 22: base camp on Everest. To put it that way, he

1262
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 22: has got a huge mountain to climb now. I mean

1263
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 22: he's going to be expected to match or better, preferably

1264
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 22: a full time world champion in a team that he

1265
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 22: has molded around himself. Liam's done eleven races, so that

1266
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 22: the task in front of him is massive. It's kind

1267
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 22: of getting even bigger with all the pressure that goes on,

1268
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 22: with the continuous interviews and why aren't you doing this right?

1269
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 22: Why do you know? There's going to be an awful

1270
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 22: lot thrown at him? But knowing him, knowing his family,

1271
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 22: I think he's more than capable of coping with all that.

1272
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: What does his pay go up to?

1273
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea?

1274
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 22: No idea that he's had. I wouldn't say with an

1275
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 22: S on the end, No, not millions. I would say

1276
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 22: his salary for this first year would be it's going

1277
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 22: to be approaching a million, I would say, but you

1278
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 22: know that's the US dollars.

1279
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1280
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 22: I don't know how they do their contracts. That's not bad.

1281
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 22: I could handle that. But the one thing he's got

1282
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 22: to do is make sure he's got the contract all

1283
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 22: the way through the year and he stays there. Because

1284
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 22: Red Bull have an awful habit of getting rid of

1285
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 22: drivers when they don't like them halfway through a season.

1286
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 22: So that's his main concern. He's not concerned about the

1287
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 22: money now, just establishing his feet on the ground in

1288
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 22: that team.

1289
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: Now the hard work really starts, Bob. Thank you very

1290
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: much and thanks for getting up so early for us.

1291
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: Bob McMurray speaking to us out of Sydney. We woke

1292
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: him up. Motors bought expert obviously former McLaren race driver

1293
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: Liam is. The other thing Liam needs to brace himself

1294
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: for is that he's going to cop it on social

1295
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: media and probably from media watch. Actually, they're already really

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Speaker 2: angry with him. They're already blaming him for this, and

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Speaker 2: he's the devil incarnate. But this is just the fun

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Speaker 2: of This is the fun of F one. So this

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Speaker 2: just comes with the territory. He's given an interview to

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Speaker 2: the Time saying, not only did his parents have to

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Speaker 2: sell their house to basically fund his way through, you know,

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Speaker 2: learning how to race and stuff, but his sisters had

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Speaker 2: to give up Irish dancing so that he could be

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Speaker 2: an F one. But hey, who makes two million bucks

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Speaker 2: out of Irish answering?

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Speaker 3: Right? So he was.

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Speaker 2: Baby just shot down like that, just shut down like that. Right,

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap the week next.

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Speaker 11: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews. Heather Duplessy Allen

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Speaker 1: on the mic asking breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities,

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Speaker 1: life your Way news talk, said b.

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Speaker 11: Marry Christmas d We're pard that's true.

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Speaker 29: I can juramo Barry Manilo, isn't it Clay Aiken. I

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Speaker 29: remember a Clay Akon who was on American Idol about

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Speaker 29: twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: He's doing his There are five and nineteen fifties. The

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Speaker 2: album covers very nineteen fifties in Crosby like that's like

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Speaker 2: a little spacey type of things. Christmas bells are ringing,

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Speaker 2: it's called and a picture of him looking very youthful

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Speaker 2: for his age. This is Mery Christmas Darling. Obviously, Clay's

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Speaker 2: been very busy since American Idol. It didn't go I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was the runner up in season two of American

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Speaker 2: American Idol. He was a little bit famous for a

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Speaker 2: little bit and then nothing really happened. But then you

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Speaker 2: tried to run for Congress, and then he's been raising

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Speaker 2: his teenage son, which we'll have been keeping him extremely busy.

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Speaker 2: Now he's come back with a Christmas album. So if

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Speaker 2: you're like, wow, I'd love to have a bit more

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Speaker 2: play in my life. There's your answer for you.

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Speaker 17: The Week in Review with two degrees Fighting for fear

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Speaker 17: for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson Tris Sharson with us.

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Speaker 3: Hello you two, Hello, Harry, Christmas, Tristia.

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Speaker 2: You on the road up north?

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Speaker 3: Yet I am up north?

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Speaker 2: You've also readly gone up north?

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Speaker 10: You can I came up last night. You can probably

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Speaker 10: hear the Mama Coo swaying in the breeze.

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Speaker 2: Oh listen to you. Did you go up north because

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Speaker 2: you were expecting the traffic to be heavy today or what?

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Speaker 10: No, just just the timing worked out and couldn't wait

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Speaker 10: to get up here. And you know we have fiber

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Speaker 10: to the door now so it's all going in the

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Speaker 10: Northland Regional Office.

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Speaker 2: How good does that work?

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Speaker 3: I'm worried.

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Speaker 25: I'm worried about the GDP of the People's Republic of

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Speaker 25: gray Lind Trish. I mean, what the heck's happening to

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Speaker 25: the cafes the wine bars while you're up north?

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Speaker 10: Well, it's pretty much what adrianaw has done to the

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Speaker 10: entire economy when I leave Grayland going through the floor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, jeez, that was rough, wasn't it, Tim?

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Speaker 2: What a way to end the year.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, worst recession since nineteen ninety one, and.

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Speaker 3: It's so sobering.

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Speaker 25: But then again, it reflects I think what people see

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Speaker 25: when they go to the supermarket, when they go to

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Speaker 25: the petrol station, and yeah, it's a tough, tough time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a weird way, Tresh. Actually, I was happy

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Speaker 2: to see that figure yesterday because it bore out what

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Speaker 2: we had been feeling and it felt weird to be saying,

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Speaker 2: this is the worst experience we've had in forty years,

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Speaker 2: and then the numbers didn't back it up. To have

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Speaker 2: the numbers back it up actually kind of reaffirms you,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 10: It does, and let's not underestimate that. I mean, I've

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Speaker 10: had shirts and Willis with raw for We're coming up

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Speaker 10: nineteen in April, and we've talked about this a bit

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Speaker 10: this year. You know, we went through the DFC a

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Speaker 10: few years after, we started being through a whole range

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Speaker 10: of ups and downs. But I think we've talked about

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Speaker 10: this yere. This year has been tough for everyone in business,

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Speaker 10: and not just because of this year, but it's come

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Speaker 10: off the back of you know, it's the last of

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Speaker 10: five really hard years, and every year everyone goes, oh,

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Speaker 10: we want it to be better, because that's human psychology.

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Speaker 10: So I just want to give a shout out actually

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Speaker 10: to everyone this year who is in business and you know,

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Speaker 10: I think it has been really really tough.

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Speaker 25: If you're still standing. If you're still standing, hats off

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Speaker 25: to you. I mean work at a charity, and it's

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Speaker 25: tough in the charitable sector as well.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, Trisia, if you've headed up north already, have

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Speaker 2: you had your Christmas party, had.

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Speaker 10: Our Christmas lunch yesterday which was which was really nice, and.

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Speaker 2: You did you have the Christmas lunch and then you

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Speaker 2: drove quick?

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Speaker 3: Well I know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 10: And one of the things that's been an interesting year

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Speaker 10: in twenty twenty five for me is that I have

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Speaker 10: given away drinking forever. And not not that I will,

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Speaker 10: not that I was a huge drinker, but I just

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Speaker 10: got to the point where it just didn't suit me anymore.

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Speaker 10: And I have to say it's been I'm not doing

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Speaker 10: the big Paddy gower, you know, come to Jesus go

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Speaker 10: around the country talking about how great it's not drinking

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Speaker 10: kind of a deal. But yeah, I have really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 10: So I can drink after a work lunch.

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Speaker 3: Drive drive?

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Speaker 2: How many you had already?

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Speaker 11: I just did?

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Speaker 3: I just heard that fraudy and slept.

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Speaker 11: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 3: Speak?

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Speaker 25: A big fan of coming to Jesus? But did you

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Speaker 25: have your work lunch? Did you have your work lunch

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Speaker 25: at the Northern Club?

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Speaker 3: Did you? Did you get to rinse anyone while you

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Speaker 3: were there? Did that?

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Speaker 10: We were more on a deck facing the ocean than

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Speaker 10: within the sort of ivy covered ivy covered balls.

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Speaker 2: Trish, I want to know about this. Why did you

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Speaker 2: give up the drinking?

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Speaker 6: Was?

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Speaker 2: Had you did?

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Speaker 27: You?

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Speaker 2: Were you doing an Emma Aiken? Did you do one

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Speaker 2: of those?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 10: Probably for the last four or so years, I had

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Speaker 10: just felt that just physically it didn't agree with me anymore.

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Speaker 28: That was really it.

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Speaker 10: And I'd had some quite big times off and you know,

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Speaker 10: I'm quite a fan of of yoga, and what I

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Speaker 10: had found was it's just amazing how it kind of

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01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 10: gets in your joints, and you know, a couple of

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Speaker 10: drinks one night, you get into down dog the next

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Speaker 10: day and you're more like the the you know, the

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Speaker 10: tint rustic and man, you can't.

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Speaker 2: That you need to. Really, you can't get your butt

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Speaker 2: to peak properly and get that stretch in the down

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Speaker 2: with dog that you need. What about you, Tim, How

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Speaker 2: are you going on the drinking front? Because I'm fascinated

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Speaker 2: by this because I've had to I had to go

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Speaker 2: real light on the drinking. But not because I'm pregnant. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I don't drink at all because I'm pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Because you're pregnant, yeah, but because.

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Speaker 2: When you've got little kids around, it's just too hard.

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Speaker 2: You just it just it doesn't fit in your life anymore.

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Speaker 2: What about you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Actually, you know what, I've actually quit until

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Speaker 3: Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: And it's going to be a blowout.

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Speaker 3: What what I think it's going to be. You're going

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: to be hosing everyone with champagne?

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Speaker 25: No, No, I just I just had this, had this

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 25: moment where I thought, what happened was we had some

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 25: neighbors come over and we had three gener toalics before

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Speaker 25: six pm. And it's just not a business model or

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Speaker 25: the future when you've got young kids. So I just thought,

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Speaker 25: I'm going to give it a break. And it's not easy,

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Speaker 25: I've got to say, but I'm enjoying it. Eating a

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Speaker 25: lot more sweets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happens.

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Speaker 6: Is.

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Speaker 2: The trouble is if you're an't drinking before dinner time,

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: then you start asking the two year old to put

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Speaker 2: themselves to bed, and that's really not wise at all. Right,

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Speaker 2: we'll take a break, come back to you guys shortly

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Speaker 2: Trishers and Tim Wilson fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: At sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 17: The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions

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Speaker 17: to the table.

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Speaker 2: You got Tim Wilson, Trishurs and Tim. How good is

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Speaker 2: that news about Liam.

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Speaker 3: Lawson and the stuff about what his family had to

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Speaker 3: What was it? Did they mortgage their home to pay.

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Speaker 2: Back sold the house? The girls had to.

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Speaker 3: Stop the house, the sisters had to stop the Irish dancer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is we're actually quite a weird family when

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Speaker 2: you think about it. I mean, most New Zealand families

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Speaker 2: the girls do netball and the boys do rugby. But

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Speaker 2: here we've got motors sports in Irish dancing.

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Speaker 3: But look how it's panned out. I mean, that's well

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Speaker 3: and it's great to see.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, the sort of the you know, we see the

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Speaker 25: ascent and we just we actually see people at the

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Speaker 25: top of the part me the top of the mountain,

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Speaker 25: but actually there's there's a long way up there.

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Speaker 3: So I was fascinated to hear about that.

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Speaker 2: Motor sports is a sport trash, but esports is not

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Speaker 2: a sport.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it is a huge professional sport if

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Speaker 10: you're into esport, But I personally see it as different

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Speaker 10: from sport as we know it, i e.

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Speaker 3: A physical sport.

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Speaker 2: But I'm trying to figure out why we are like

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Speaker 2: this about it is it's what's the difference?

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Speaker 16: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Because we expect if you're doing sport that you have

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Speaker 2: to be actually there has to be a physical challenge

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Speaker 2: involved in that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I think you go ahead,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, I think so.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's probably in the end the decision

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Speaker 10: that High Performance Sport in New Zealand has made around

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Speaker 10: not giving funding to esports because high performance sport, you know,

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Speaker 10: they are about the kind of traditional high performance sports

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Speaker 10: that we think about like cycling and rowing and et cetera,

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Speaker 10: et cetera. And the other thing I would say about

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Speaker 10: esports is this is a billion, billion, billion dollar business globally.

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Speaker 10: There is huge money in esports around the world, and

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Speaker 10: I'm just I'm not sure that if you're comparing it

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Speaker 10: to the sports that high performance sports fund, a lot

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Speaker 10: of those sports people still have to be amateur and

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Speaker 10: tough it out and they really need that funding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit. You know what I think

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Speaker 2: it is, Tim, I think that it's like tomatoes being

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Speaker 2: technically a fruit. Like you can say, technically you are

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: a sport, but I'm not going to put you in

1516
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: my fruit salad.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 2: Like tomatoes are a fruit, but it's not really a fruit.

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01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. I would submit that esports are a competition,

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 3: they're not a.

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01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 25: Sport, So it's a sports a bit like say poker

1522
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 25: or Rubik's Cube Cube. I'd say beer Pong's more of

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 25: a sport than esport. And this whole, this whole, I

1524
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 25: guess the thing too, is like the way that we

1525
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 25: live our lives these days, we're actually quite disconnected from

1526
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 25: our body and a lot of what we do. So

1527
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 25: you know, we're creatures, are body, mind and soul, but

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 25: a lot of what we do is actually we don't

1529
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 25: really use our bodies.

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, trust to your point.

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Speaker 25: Once you know, once you sort of start to connect,

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 25: you know, you do yoga or something you think, actually,

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 25: a lot of the stuff I'm not doing I should

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 25: be doing. So I quite like high performance Sport New

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 25: Zealand for making this decision.

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Speaker 2: See ballsy.

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Speaker 10: Okay, listen, just let you is on a very quick

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 10: little secret. Actually, speaking of tomatoes, I have the best

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 10: tomato crop.

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01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: Ever this year.

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01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 10: And I'm quite a big tomato grow And let me

1542
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 10: let me tell you. You can now buy a tomato

1543
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 10: that's grafted onto rootstock and on one half of the

1544
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 10: vine you get an orange cherry and the other half

1545
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 10: you get a red cherry.

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 20: So cool.

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: Have you got that going on?

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01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 25: I have got that going on.

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01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 10: It's absolutely fantastic. And it's still not too late to

1550
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 10: plant your tomatoes.

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 24: And anyone out there is.

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01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: Actually good point, because our tomato plant is going to plants.

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01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 2: Actually I've gone double this year. It's going nuts. Actually,

1554
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: so maybe it's the thing in the in the in

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: the in the space.

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: Now, okay, who's your politician of the year.

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look, I'm going to go I'm going to

1559
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: go with Simeon Brown.

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01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 25: Doesn't escalate, doesn't let things escalate. Stuff that counts Rhodes, potholes, etc.

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01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 25: But I think you know Winston geopolitical he's Doinston's a

1562
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 25: great foreign Minister and I think geopolitics is going to

1563
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 25: rise up in the next two or three years.

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01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think in time we will

1565
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: be grateful for Winston actually for what he's doing right now.

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: What do you Reckontrish?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I have felt good actually with Winston as Foreign Minister.

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 10: He has the gravitask, he takes the role seriously, he

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01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 10: really gets it and I think he is respected and

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,480
Speaker 10: he's put in a lot more work into our relationships.

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01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 10: My top performer this year is Ericas Stanford. I think

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 10: she's done fantastic things in education and it's an area

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 10: we absolutely need to get on top.

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01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: Of in New Zealand.

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 10: But I've got two others sitting underneath that, and these

1577
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 10: are actually prizes for something we now undervalue in politics,

1578
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 10: which is oratory and the ability to speak in the house.

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: Let me guess Shane Jones is in there.

1580
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 10: And well no, Shane, Shane's great. I've got actually two

1581
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 10: up and comers. One is a new first term MP

1582
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 10: Cameron Brewer. If you watch Cameron. He has that old

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 10: political skill. He can stand up in the house, he

1584
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,799
Speaker 10: can speak on any piece of legislation that the whippers

1585
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 10: just probably chucked it in five minutes beforehand, and he's

1586
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 10: bringing back. I think that skill of oratory and speaking

1587
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 10: in the house great to watch. The other one is

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 10: Hannah Rafferty mighty clark for her, she's the young Maori

1589
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 10: politician and Maori. Her speech on the fore Court of

1590
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 10: Parliament at the Heckoy is one of the best political

1591
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 10: speeches I have seen.

1592
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 17: In many years?

1593
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: Was it better than her? Which actually was really cool?

1594
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 10: Well, that was actually and if I'm thinking about politics,

1595
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 10: politics is theater. That was actually brilliant theater that everyone

1596
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 10: around the world watched her. But her speech to that

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 10: Hackoy was it line and length, absolutely perfect, brilliant mana

1598
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 10: from such a young person.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 25: Can can I throw anccolade out one to just quickly

1601
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 25: Chris Luson's end of the year speech this year?

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01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: My goodness, it was like a comedic triumph. It was.

1603
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: It was actually good.

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 8: You go.

1605
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 25: If Labor was in charge of Santa's workshop, the Elves

1606
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 25: will be charging consultants. The sleigh would cost four billion

1607
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 25: dollars and the reindeer would be working from home.

1608
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 3: Payer speech writer, more person payrise, guys.

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Go well, Merry Christmas to you both, trishas.

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01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 17: And Terry Christmas Christmas everyone, Heather duplessy Ellen Pond on

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 17: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: Heather, I gave it drinking this year. The toughest part

1613
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: is listening to the rubbish chat of all of those

1614
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: still boozing at parties. I will one hundred percent agree

1615
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: with you on that, because I have to go to

1616
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: parties as a very very very sober person. At the moment,

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 2: I would have said sober as a judge, but given

1618
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: the behavior of Emma Aiken at her Christmas party at

1619
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: the Northern Club, I don't think we can use that

1620
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: one anymore. Anyways. I go sober as a pregnant lady,

1621
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what the chat. That's some shite chat,

1622
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: isn't it? And you get very bored of it very quickly. Hey,

1623
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: it's being reported that apparently Karmala Harris is going to

1624
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: be rolling in it next minute, because apparently there are

1625
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: publishers top publishers prepared to pay her as much as

1626
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: twenty million US dollars for a tell all book on

1627
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: what happened within the Biden White House. According to a

1628
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: Karmla insider, virtually the moment that Karmla lost to Trump,

1629
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: the office began pouring in from the publishing world for

1630
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: her to do the definitive book on what really went

1631
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: on between Joe and KRMLA. And it would be worth

1632
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: it because don't tell me you wouldn't read that. I

1633
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 2: would read it. Wouldn't you to know how long he's

1634
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: been gaga, how long they've been pretending he's not gaga,

1635
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: how many fights they had about the fact that he's

1636
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: gaga and shouldn't be running for president, And jeez, I'd

1637
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: want it to go right up to the end of

1638
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: his presidency, all the way through to him pardoning Hunter

1639
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,480
Speaker 2: Biden and the whole bloody lot would be absolutely fascinating.

1640
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: Murriold's Out of Australia's with Us next and Torri Farno

1641
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: A funny little thing to tell you about Torri Farno,

1642
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: who STIGs bsim.

1643
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: Wonderful last time, setting the newser gender and digging into

1644
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 1: the issues.

1645
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 17: Heather Duflucy Ellen on the.

1646
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: Mic, asking breakfast with the range rover villa designed to

1647
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: intrigue and use togs.

1648
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: That'd be oh hey, listen quickly. On the banks being

1649
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: the climate police, you know how we're here in New

1650
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: Zealand we've been getting pretty frustrated with the Australian banks

1651
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: being the climate police and deciding what's morally right and

1652
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: wrong and having a crack at our dairy farmers and stuff.

1653
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Turns out in Australia they're also not loving it. AINZ

1654
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 2: had its big AGM yesterday, got a bit rowdy, lots

1655
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: of questions from the investors about the climate policies, the

1656
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: banks holding the line on it. They still say they

1657
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 2: believe in reacting to climate change and blah blah blah.

1658
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: Then what happened was one one shareholder who obviously does

1659
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: think the bank should be doing the climate stuff, submitted

1660
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: a resolution to force asp A and Z sorry to

1661
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: only lend to companies who are doing the right thing

1662
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: by the Paris Agreement. So like really narrowing it down,

1663
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 2: I mean, like we're not going to lend to anybody

1664
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: unless they're reducing their emissions. Only got support from twenty

1665
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: seven percent of investors, which is the what's that like

1666
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: a quarter anyway, So it just goes to show they're

1667
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: not loving it. We're not loving it. Bank may may

1668
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: need to rethink that also, just general unhappiness with a

1669
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: Z So they're having a tough time over in Australia.

1670
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: So as a result, they voted forty percent, like quite

1671
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 2: a reasonable minority, voted against the executive pay scheme and

1672
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: as a result, the outgoing chief executive has agreed to

1673
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: give up some of his bonuses three point two million

1674
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: dollars worth out twenty two away from.

1675
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 17: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

1676
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand business.

1677
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 11: Murray Olds is with us mus Very good morning, dear Heather.

1678
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: How's your dollar looking then?

1679
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 11: Well, not flash.

1680
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 18: I'm glad I might go to America or the UK

1681
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 18: for a holiday this Christmas. Already the expensive beers and

1682
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 18: coffees will be even more disgracefully expensive because the Australian

1683
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 18: dollar had a two year low against the US dollar

1684
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 18: yesterday afternoon sixty two and a quarter US since and

1685
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 18: the Australian shear market also got smashed, nearly lost two

1686
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 18: percent to lunchtime yesterday and kept heading south.

1687
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 11: The big mining companies like VHP got hammered.

1688
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 18: So to the big banks A and Z you just

1689
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 18: mentioned that lost the most two point seven percent, the

1690
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 18: Commonwealth Bank Westpac down two point three, NAB two point one.

1691
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 18: And this is all because the United States apparently next

1692
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 18: year mon't have four cuts in the official interest rates

1693
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 18: in the United States, only two now expected.

1694
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 11: And of course that old line about when America.

1695
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 18: Sneezes, Australia catches cold, it's certainly the case. We're heading

1696
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 18: into Christmas we're expecting I mean, retailers will still do well.

1697
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 11: They I think they were.

1698
01:17:55,640 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 18: Maybe expecting to have a fair surge of retails spending

1699
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 18: on those you know, the Black Fridays and the mad Mondays.

1700
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 11: And all the rest of it. But there will still

1701
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 11: be a big spend. How big, We're not.

1702
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 18: One hundred percent sure yet, because cost of living is

1703
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 18: really biting over here.

1704
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 11: I'm sure it's biting over home as.

1705
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 18: Well, and you know, at Christmas time perhaps not as

1706
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 18: festive as has been in previous years.

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 11: With one eye on the election early next year, Heather, Hey,

1708
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 11: I see that.

1709
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 2: These new coal mines are being extended that tay.

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01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 18: Although they're not new, no no nos, Environment Minister Tanya Plipasek.

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01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 11: No, hang on a second.

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 18: You've just approved a green field coal mine in queens

1713
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 18: lamb but it's not an approval.

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 11: What does that mean?

1715
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,480
Speaker 18: Look all this, I mean, look the government turning itself

1716
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 18: inside out.

1717
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 11: We know that coal, that more coal is going to

1718
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 11: be needed for a very long time.

1719
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 18: If we're not going to burn it here, it's certainly

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01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 18: going to be exported to countries that will be burning coal,

1721
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 18: because that's you know, for those countries that will be

1722
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 18: the most efficient, most effective and most cost effective way

1723
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,879
Speaker 18: of actually providing energy for their countries.

1724
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 11: But it really is, it's an.

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01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 18: Embarrassing mess really for the government because you've got Tanya

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01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 18: plibask on one side, but you know, very able and

1727
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 18: capable left wing minister from Sydney and it's you know,

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 18: it's her job to look at this, at these things.

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Speaker 18: And she's signed off on four new on four new

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Speaker 18: coal projects, but apparently nothing approved that's brand new this year.

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Speaker 18: Well that's nonsense, isn't it. And on the other side

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Speaker 18: you've got another Sydney minister, Chris Bowen, who's the Energy Minister.

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Speaker 18: He's the guy in charge of all the green energy

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01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 18: that's coming through. He must be pulling, you know, whatever

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01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 18: hair he's got left, he must be yanking out this morning.

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Speaker 11: Based on his ministerial colleagues decision. It really is a mess.

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Speaker 2: This Breakdown's musical, Raygun Breakdowns Musical, is turning into quite

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Speaker 2: the kindfuffle, isn't it?

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Speaker 18: Well it is, and I mean look, yesterday, all the

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01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 18: news was that Raygun, the Olympic athlete who basically went

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Speaker 18: to Paris and you know, became an international viral hit

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01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 18: for all the wrong reasons. She didn't get a point

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Speaker 18: in the competition, so she's come home with a bit

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Speaker 18: of a name, but no gold medal. And you know,

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Speaker 18: I think a lot of people were giving us some

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Speaker 18: a lot of support because you know, being embarrassed on

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Speaker 18: the net. Well but preper anyway, there's a young stand

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Speaker 18: up comic and she thought she came up with the

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Speaker 18: idea of Raygun the musical, all the information she got

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Speaker 18: off the internet. Well, apparently Raygun's lawyers got hold of

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Speaker 18: the idea a fortnight ago that to cover their bums

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01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 18: they were going to sting them ten thousand dollars for

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Speaker 18: the possible costs of legal action.

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Speaker 11: They wanted to get the legal costs out of the

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Speaker 11: way up.

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Speaker 18: Front before it took place, if you don't mind, but anyway, look,

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01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 18: apparently and then Raygun because she called the lawyers in,

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01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 18: she was getting hammered on social media apparently overnight or

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01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 18: late yesterday, there's been some rapproch more put it that way,

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01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 18: and Raygun's saying, look, knock yourself out, steph, have your

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Speaker 18: stand up comedy show. All the money going from the

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Speaker 18: show is going to go to a women's and girls

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Speaker 18: emergency center and it's going to be one of the

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Speaker 18: headline acts apparently at the Adelaide Friends early next year.

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Speaker 18: And you know, just imagine all the tickets that are

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Speaker 18: going to be sold in the back of this publicity.

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01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 18: Apparently it's all friends, all made up, all kisses, all lovees,

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Speaker 18: and it's the show will go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, muz, listen, Merry Christmas to you, go and

1770
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 2: have yourself a lovely summer break. We'll see again next year.

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01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: It's Murray Old's our Australia corresponding year. So on the

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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars. The ten thousand dollars is the thing

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Speaker 2: that is stinging Raygun. Reagan's losing a lot of fans

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Speaker 2: because of this Reaguan, so she wants the ten thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars legal fees from we mate who's running her little, tiny, tiny,

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: tiny little stage production. It's blown up in Reagan's face.

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: So Raygan's gone on social media and done a little

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01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: video defending herself.

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Speaker 30: We have not sought any costs from all there. So

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01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 30: there's a lot of talk around. There's ten thousand dollars.

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01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 30: That was from really early on my day one. My

1782
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,879
Speaker 30: lawyers were acting on my behalf.

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Speaker 20: They'd sent out letters and you know, they asked for

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Speaker 20: a response, and so the ten k would just be

1785
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 20: my potential legal costs if we had.

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01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 2: To go to court, but fortunately we didn't. I said, okay,

1787
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 2: it was only if we had to go to court. Bs.

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01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: The letter says you will reimburse our client with legal

1789
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: costs to date, which we estimate to be ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So raygana not very good at breakdancing, not very good

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Speaker 2: at fibbing. Tory Fino. Next sixteen Away from nine The Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 1: Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B Gee Heather from ray Gun to Torrifino. Yes, it's

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01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: that kind of a day. Okay, So Tory Fino. So

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Speaker 2: a funny thing happened with Tory yesterday. Tory goes on

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Speaker 2: with Nick and Wellington once a month and it was

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Speaker 2: it was it was that time time of the month yesterday,

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01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 2: and so Tory was on and they were chatting about

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Speaker 2: something which which seemed to me to be relatively innocuous.

1801
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 2: So we chatting about the fact that Tory has got

1802
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: this business advisory group in Wellington and a chap called

1803
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Speaker 2: Mark McGinnis, who I think is a developble or something

1804
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: like that. He's got anyway, he's got commercial interests. He

1805
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: was he's on the business advisory group and he's left

1806
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: and it appears that he's left because of it. He

1807
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: doesn't agree with the Golden Mile. Nobody agrees with the

1808
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: Golden Mile, and he's left because of that. And anyway,

1809
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: Nick asked Tory about that, and this is what Tory said.

1810
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Speaker 31: You know, the feedback from some people is going to

1811
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Speaker 31: be canceled the Golden Mile. That's not the most he

1812
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 31: would preferred that it would have been held off, but

1813
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Speaker 31: I'd rather not spect for him. Actually I probably shouldn't

1814
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 31: have said that, And I was very open about not

1815
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 31: doing that. The rest of the group wanted to go left,

1816
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 31: you'd have to ask him.

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01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So that basically she regretted what she said, and

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01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: the question line continues for a few more minutes long.

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: It's just really trying to get out of this. She

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01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said it, shouln't have said it, should have

1821
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: said it. So anyway, it gets whatever, gets boring. It's

1822
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: the same thing over and again, and they go to

1823
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: a break, come back from the break.

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Speaker 32: Tory's not there, Wellington Morning, Tory Fano is in the studio.

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Speaker 32: She just asked for a little bit of a time out.

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Speaker 32: She was not happy with one some of the questions

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Speaker 32: and just ask for a bit of a time out.

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Speaker 32: So we'll we'll plod on and hopefully she'll come back

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Speaker 32: and finish the out.

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Speaker 2: That's weird. That's weird, though, isn't it Like if you're

1831
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: actually doing an interview and then you just ask for

1832
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of a mental health break during the interview.

1833
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: So all up, she was out of the studio for

1834
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: four and a half minutes. It was two minutes two

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Speaker 2: minutes of on airtime or thereabouts plus two and a

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01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: half minutes or thereabouts. For the break anyway. The reason

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this is because Tory has had a

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Speaker 2: Tory has had a tough time in interviews of late.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was the interview this year where she

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Speaker 2: said that she'd sold her car to pay her bills,

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01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 2: and then there was the interview where she had to

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Speaker 2: admit that she actually hadn't sold her cards to pay

1843
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Speaker 2: her bills. And it's just been a kerfuffle, hasn't it.

1844
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: But Torri also said yesterday on air that she actually

1845
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: thinks she's done quite well this year and she would

1846
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: rate her performances is a seven or eight out of ten.

1847
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 2: So seven or eight, like this is a mere under pressure,

1848
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: right you don't you don't. You don't take a mental

1849
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: health break in the middle of an interview unless you're

1850
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 2: feeling some serious pressure coming down on you. So seven

1851
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Speaker 2: or eight out of ten given the context of you know,

1852
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: I guess having the government called the Crown Observer Daddy

1853
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: in to sit with you and babysit you, being ridiculed

1854
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: by the media for being but rubbish, not being able

1855
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: to get the reading cinema deal across the line, increasing

1856
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Speaker 2: the rates by seventeen percent, having the balls to increase

1857
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Speaker 2: the rates by sixteen percent next year. After all of that,

1858
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Speaker 2: having the water pipes bursting, having the butt the business

1859
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: is shut down all over the shop because you're doing

1860
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: the road cones everywhere and then pretending that you're selling

1861
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Speaker 2: your car to pay your bills. Despite all of that,

1862
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Speaker 2: seven seven or eight out of ten, you can imagine

1863
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be stratispheric next to you when she's

1864
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: actually doing a good job and sort of not telling

1865
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 2: FIBs and state and ducking out during the middle of interviews,

1866
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: you can imagine that that rating is going to be

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Speaker 2: through the roof, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Ten?

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Speaker 2: Away from nine?

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Speaker 1: The duplicy allent fon the my costing Breakfast with a

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Speaker 1: Vida retire in Communities News togstad be.

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Speaker 2: Actually here there's some interviewers a pretty harsh and persistence.

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Speaker 2: So not everyone is tough enough to cope with those interviews,

1874
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 2: which is fair, but they're not everyone's a mare. But

1875
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: if you're a maage'd probably be tough enough. Hey, so

1876
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 2: I mentioned like, this is the power of this particular

1877
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: breakfast show. I hadn't realized my regular show Drive does

1878
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 2: not have this kind of power. But the Mike Costkin

1879
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: Breakfast Show has this kind of power. I just made

1880
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Speaker 2: one comment at about I reckon quord it to eight.

1881
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 2: I was I just I All I said was And

1882
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Speaker 2: the husband hasn't got his hooping cough jabb yet, has

1883
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: he either? Anyway? Useless man moved on. Somebody heard it.

1884
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Text him he's got an appointment for quarter past nine.

1885
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: I have been harping on at the sky for days weeks.

1886
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: I am nine and a half months pregnant. Well nine,

1887
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna round it down. Be generous. I'm nine months pregnant.

1888
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: I've been talking about it for nine months. Go on

1889
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Show, say one time sorted so anyway.

1890
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Speaker 13: Suck on that media watch that is right too right.

1891
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Put that in there in your pipe and smoke it.

1892
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: Only the legal stuff. Six away from nine.

1893
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: Trending now will Chemist Warehouse the home of big brand vitamins.

1894
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Speaker 2: Now, we've got some data about what we've been watching

1895
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: this year. When it comes to the TV shows and

1896
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: the movies, we have spent three hundred and forty million

1897
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: hours watching films and TV on Sky and Neon alone.

1898
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: That's not even counting Netflix, that's not even counting up

1899
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: all TV. That's not even counting TV's it's just these

1900
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 2: two three hundred and forty million hours. Top genre was drama,

1901
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: which we watched sixty five million hours worth of Top

1902
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: shows were Midsummer Murders and Law and Order Special Victims Unit. Surprising,

1903
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Isn't It over?

1904
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 3: On?

1905
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: Neon? This is where the quality happens. Yellowstone top spot,

1906
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: followed by House of the Dragon, and clearly outside of

1907
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 2: those shows, the toddlers are taking over because because in

1908
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: the brackets of people who pay the bills in are

1909
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty five years old, they're watching Yellowstone,

1910
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 2: The White Lotus and then Bluey. To be fair, that'll

1911
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 2: be the children that you're trying to occupy the children.

1912
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: But when the children go to bed and you just

1913
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: want to chill out, you probably sit down and just

1914
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 2: watch it again because it's like it's entertaining without the streets,

1915
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 2: do you know.

1916
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Speaker 8: What I mean?

1917
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: That's what you need in your life anyways. So also

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Speaker 2: in the top ten was Poor Patrol, Harry Potter, and

1919
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: Willie Wonker. When it came to movies, action was the

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Speaker 2: most popular drama. The number one movie Mission Impossible, Dead

1921
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: Reckoning Part one over two hundred thousand hours of that

1922
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: was watched. Comedy was the second most popular genre. I'm

1923
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: surprised that people are watching Mission Impossible. I'll be honest

1924
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: with you. That's on the slightly more stressful end of

1925
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 2: the spectrum for me.

1926
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Speaker 14: Hey, well, the only thing that surprised me about it

1927
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 14: is that I watched it and realized that I'd already

1928
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 14: seen it in the trailer.

1929
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Speaker 13: They gave away like the end of the movie in

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Speaker 13: the trailer.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that the movie? Is that the one where

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Speaker 2: he goes with the motorcycle right up to the killed.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, I see that Sometimes I have

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01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: to look up in the studio just and because we've

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Speaker 2: we've got the sky on here, and they run that

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01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: trailer a lot, and it makes it immediately makes me

1938
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: feel stressed out too much. For him, I'm like, I

1939
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Speaker 2: see why he got the Navy honor, because that's a

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Speaker 2: pretty cool stunt to Paul. Now it's Christmas time, right,

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Speaker 2: so this is this is basically I think, apart from

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Speaker 2: you know, people who are still trying to rescue their

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Speaker 2: off today, aren't we. I mean, you're not gonna do Monday,

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Speaker 2: are you, because that's that's a really terrible idea. Or

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve. Oh man, I feel for retail right now. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: most of us are gonna knock off today. So we're

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Speaker 2: all gonna head off and we're gonna have a lovely,

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Speaker 2: lovely summer. Thank you for listening, Thank you for tolerating

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Speaker 2: me in for Mike. Thank you to Sam and Glenn,

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Speaker 2: the producers here for holding my hand because let me

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Speaker 2: tell you, I've been mocking people for training wheels, but

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Speaker 2: I've ad them, haven't I. And also my regular producers

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Speaker 2: on Drive they're pretty okay as well. Enjoy your summer,

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Speaker 2: have a lovely Christmas, try and look after yourself on

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Speaker 2: of the beautiful ten Merry Christmas.

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