1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Robbie Williams. One of the great stories of modern music. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Of course, boy band bust Up Redemption through a catalog 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: of monster hits over multiple decades. Netflix a couple of 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: years ago gave an amazing insight into the life and 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: told of it all Latest does britt Pop record breaking 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: number one as it turns out, and a tour He's 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: coming Robbie Williams, as well as morning. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: Good morning buddy, nice to see you. 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Brits the other night, I mean 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: goodness on a scale of one to ten. House stoked, 11 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: are you. 12 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 3: Oh mate? 13 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: I've thought about it every day since. It was a 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: real career highlight for many reasons. 15 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: You know. 16 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: I got to have the honor of front in and 17 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: Ozzy Osbourne tribute, which in itself was just sensational, But 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: the whole evening was incredible because I've been very cynical 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: of award shows for a couple of decades now, and 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: I got to watch all of these young acts and 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: see their life unfolding before them, enjoy their performances so much, 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: then meet them and feel the wonder and the magic 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: that exists for them and get to live it through 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: them and my appreciation for award ceremonies came back, and 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: that surprised me. But standing in front of that band 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: with that power was just intoxicating, and I want more 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: of it. I became instantly addicted and very grateful that 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: missus Oh asked me to do it, when she did what. 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Was required to make that hep And I assume there 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: was some rehearsal, some work that went into it. 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: Very little. 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: I think that we ran through the song three times 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: the night before and. 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all. 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: The work is done by people that do admin and 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: get people on planes and you know, plug guitars in 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: for people and get me my decorate nicoret mints. You know, 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: very little work was done on my behalf, apart from 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: the thirty six years of work I've put into this industry. 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Now you wrote beautifully. It was on Instagram the other 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: night about the people you talk to, the young talent 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: you saw. It was seemingly so uplifting. Is there actually 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: that genuine talent out there in your industry these days? 44 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: That will rise and go will. 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: There's always going to be talents. I was quite cynical, 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: and I thought that music was full. I thought that 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: everything that could be said has been sung. Every chord 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: that could be played has been played, every note in 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: whatever order has been strung together. 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: And I thought the door was firmly shut. 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: But to experience the new and experience the I suppose 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: the new young people experience in them kind of changed 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: my perspective. And yeah, there is still magic in the air, 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: There is still magical people, and there are still a 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: bunch of magical people in the audience receiving the new, 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: and yeah, it's it. 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: Made me feel happy. 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you're sort of the new britpop. I mean, 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: did you expect it to be it? I mean, it's 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: a record breaker, for goodness sake? Did you expect it 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: to be what it is? 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, because I'd had fifteen other ones, you know, 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: So I yeah, I have sixteen number one albums, which 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: feels mind bendingly incredible. I just can't get my head 65 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: around it. But because I'd had fifteen number ones, you know, 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: I think there was a exhale that there was a 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: sixteenth number one. And I think the panic and the 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: worry was what if it isn't and what if I 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: don't get to experience that again? And I suppose the 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: intoxication is not in the experiencing sixteen number ones. It's 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: the exhale at not being number two. 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: See, I mean, even after all these years, I was 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: I was going to ask, there must be a point 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: where everything's like cream on the cake, you know, but 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: you've done all you need to do. The risk is 76 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: just joy. But that sounds to me like you need 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: some more. 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah I do. You know, the whole is unfillable, but 79 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: still I persevere. 80 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: You know, A big fan of Manchester United and a 81 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: big fan of Alex Ferguson, and as soon as they 82 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: won whatever they won, the next day, Alex Ferguson was like, 83 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: put those medals in the bin. 84 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: We go again. 85 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: And that's how I feel. We go again and we 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: carry on going again. I'm not quite sure one hundred 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: percent of what it is that I'm running from and 88 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: what it is that needs to be you know, this 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: hole that needs to be filled. But what I am 90 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: enjoying now is the journey. You know, I'm and it's cliched, 91 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: but I literally enjoy the car journeys, the playing journeys, 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: the sitting with my band, the talking to people that 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: I work with and creating and keeping this show on 94 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: the road. 95 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of the show's Robbie in terms of, you know, 96 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: the size of the logistics just getting it back on 97 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: the road and filling stadiums. How big a deal. 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Ah, every show is the most important show. The next 99 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: show is always the most important show. I don't want 100 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: to let me down and I don't want to let 101 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: my audience down. And I take the responsibility of entertaining 102 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: entertaining incredibly seriously. 103 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: The logistics of it, I don't know, man. 104 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm just the person at the front with most of 105 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: the weight on the shoulders, trying to create something special 106 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: for people that have paid good money to experience something special. 107 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: I am the. 108 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: Fool at the front, but also the most important people 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: are the ones behind me. 110 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: Literally putting the show on the road. You reckon. 111 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: The world's changed, And I've got this theory. People traveled. 112 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: They've never traveled like post covidnes is. They've never traveled 113 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: like they had before. They've never gone to more concerts. 114 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: Everyone's out there buying tickets. Is there something in that 115 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: you wicking the experiential thing? 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: Can I swear? Or no? Of course you kim okay. 117 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: I think all artists shot themselves when the experimental experiential 118 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: market fell a shit, and I think it did something 119 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: to all of our psychees where we realized on a 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: conscious or a subconscious level that this could be taken 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: away at any moment and we shall never ever take 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: this for granted again. And I think everybody came out 123 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: of the traps going. 124 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: Quick, do something, and so it is. 125 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: And I don't think that we've caught up with the 126 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: fact that we're all right right now we can maybe chill. 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I definitely, I definitely haven't. I don't think I've I've 128 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: worked as hard in the last four or five years 129 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: as I've done since I was in take that, since 130 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: I was in the boy band. 131 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: But I'm really I'm re enjoying it. 132 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: You sound like you are as well. There was a 133 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: thing I guess it was last summer I saw from 134 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: you on social media. You're walking through posted in a 135 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: through Hyde Park are You're wearing a pink suit, pink shorts, 136 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: pink jacket, and you're going up to people and saying hello, 137 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: how are you? And no one recognized you? And I thought, 138 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: that's a guy who's comfortable in his own skin and 139 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: loving life. 140 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 141 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, well, you know, more comfortable than i've 142 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: ever been, still some way to go, but it really 143 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: helps when you have kids and the world isn't about 144 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: you anymore and it's about them. And I suppose in 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: many ways I've come to understand that that they are 146 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: why I am here. Without them, I wouldn't be the 147 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: person that I am today, and without my beautiful wife, 148 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be the person that I am today. 149 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: But they are in my. 150 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Life, and yeah, I just feel very very lucky, very 151 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: very grateful that I'm still alive. 152 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Good on you that Netflix thing, by the way, last time, 153 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: since you've been on the show, the Netflix thing has 154 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: come and gone. How was that was that cathartic? Wasn't good? 155 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 156 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: It was cathartic, because you know, if you've been around 157 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: for a long long time, you're at the behest of 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: the media, and the media as its own story to 159 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: tell about absolutely everything that necessarily doesn't align. 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: With the story that you would like to be told. 161 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: And when I got to do the Netflix documentary thing, 162 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: the overwhelming sense that I got back from it was 163 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: that I'd been seen and I'd been heard, and as 164 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: a oversensitive sixteen year old that I felt that was 165 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: very healing. 166 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Let me quote you this and this has came out 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: of that thing I mentioned in miment Ago from the Brits. 168 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: I have no real confidence. You need to just explain 169 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: this to all of this. I have no real confidence, 170 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: but I am as brave as but I've got the 171 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: biggest balls and show business confidence and bravery. So the 172 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: confidence and bravery thing. You see them as separate things. 173 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: Do you? Yeah? 174 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Because I could never lean on confidence. I always used 175 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: to think and does confidence arrive? And it hasn't. But 176 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: what I can always always rely on is being brave. 177 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, there is a massive lesson for me. 178 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: Was that. 179 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: You know, when I used to get very fearful of 180 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: performances and I get stage fright, my body and my 181 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: mind and my subconscious and my conscious was telling me 182 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm about to die. Run away, And then after a 183 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: while you realize that you're still alive. 184 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: And you didn't die, And then you think, well, where 185 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: do what box do I put this in? Then? 186 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: And then I had this realization that confidence may never arise, 187 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: but look at what you've done, and look at what 188 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: you've become, and how have you done that? 189 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: Well? 190 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: Despite me, I've done it by being incredibly brave and. 191 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sort of. 192 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,239 Speaker 2: The strength that I can derive from that note is immeasurable. 193 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: Good listen, it's always uplifting talking to you. I appreciate 194 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: it very much. Good luck, well done on the Brits, 195 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: well done on brit Pop, and we'll look forward to 196 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: seeing you in the country. 197 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Oh well, God bless you brother, and lovely to speak 198 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: to you, Robbie Williams. 199 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 200 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 201 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.