WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: January 5, 2025

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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<v Speaker 2>A house sizzor even when it's dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even

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<v Speaker 3>when a dog is too old to bar, and when

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<v Speaker 3>you're sitting at the table trying not to start. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>scissor home.

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<v Speaker 4>Even when we bend, even when you're therellonezzo. House is

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<v Speaker 4>a hold, even when there's ghost, even.

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<v Speaker 5>When you got around from the ones you love, your moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Scream doors, broken pants, appeeling from the world, locals, vestment

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<v Speaker 3>when they're gone, and leaving the.

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<v Speaker 4>Have, even when.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll rebne, even when you're very lone.

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<v Speaker 6>A well, a very very good morning and a warm

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<v Speaker 6>welcome to you on this the first show, the first

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<v Speaker 6>Resident Builder on Sunday show here at News Talk Seed

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<v Speaker 6>B for twenty twenty five. So it is a great

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<v Speaker 6>pleasure to return. Well, we haven't really taken a break,

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<v Speaker 6>to be fair, but it's great to be back, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's it is twenty twenty five, and that brings with it,

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<v Speaker 6>I suppose optimism, hope, opportunity, potential for a year ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Certainly there's plenty of challenges out there for the construction sector,

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<v Speaker 6>for the economy in general, to be fair, so we'll

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<v Speaker 6>see how that pans out over the course of the year.

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<v Speaker 6>But it is delightful to be back. I trust that

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<v Speaker 6>you had a good New Year's celebration. Hopefully if it

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<v Speaker 6>was festive, it was not festive with some sort of

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<v Speaker 6>long lingering hangover or some.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah something you've got of it later on.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, if you've had a hopefully you've had a

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<v Speaker 6>good New Year's and you are preparing yourself for the

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<v Speaker 6>year ahead. If you've been out in the garden, or

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<v Speaker 6>you've been working around the house, or you've been doing

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<v Speaker 6>some jobs inside, I hope they've been going well or

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<v Speaker 6>as well as they possibly can. I did actually notice

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<v Speaker 6>in my neighborhood someone was out with power tools on

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<v Speaker 6>New Year's Day. They were cracking into it. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what it was. It might have been a water blaster.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure I heard a grinder out there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 6>Not sure that I heard a skill saw or a chainsaw,

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<v Speaker 6>but certainly some people were out and about with power

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<v Speaker 6>tools on New Year's Day, possibly having a sort of

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<v Speaker 6>a very sober night and then wanting to rub in

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<v Speaker 6>their vigor and their determination to greet the new year

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<v Speaker 6>with activity. For those who maybe were lingering a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit in bed a bit longer on New Year's Day radio,

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<v Speaker 6>we're into it. So the year ahead will be fascinating.

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<v Speaker 6>I think from a political point of view, it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be interesting to see whether so much of what

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<v Speaker 6>was talked about last year, in terms of lessening bureaucracy,

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<v Speaker 6>trying to speed up the construction or the consenting process,

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<v Speaker 6>any of those sorts of things come to fruition, whether

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<v Speaker 6>or not after a lot of consultation around standards, and

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<v Speaker 6>whether or not the increased standards for H one, which

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<v Speaker 6>is the insulation requirements, will be wound back in order

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<v Speaker 6>to try and find some savings for the cost of

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<v Speaker 6>building houses. Whether that actually comes to something I personally

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<v Speaker 6>hope not in the scene. It's that I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>that we need to wind back EH one standards, but

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<v Speaker 6>we do need to get rid of the schedule method,

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<v Speaker 6>so we'll we can talk about that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's going to be a fascinating year. Head.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you've got a project that is underway and

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<v Speaker 6>maybe you'd like some help with it, or you've started something,

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<v Speaker 6>perhaps you've got some new tools. Like me, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>actually get any tools for Christmas. Buying tools for me

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<v Speaker 6>for Christmas could be a little bit tricky. However, I

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<v Speaker 6>have been out shopping over the Christmas break and I

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<v Speaker 6>picked up a couple of little things that I felt

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<v Speaker 6>that I needed that were a gap in the arsenal,

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<v Speaker 6>a gap in the repertoire of tools that I might

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<v Speaker 6>have in the tool shed. So we can talk a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit about those. But later on this morning, and

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<v Speaker 6>I did actually spend a little bit of happy time

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<v Speaker 6>in the workshop, just kind of organizing, sort of puttering. Puttering,

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<v Speaker 6>I think was my word for twenty twenty four. At

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<v Speaker 6>some stage during twenty twenty five, I'll think of another

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<v Speaker 6>word or find another word that I like. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>making up, I just find them and I like them.

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<v Speaker 6>Puttering was a great word. Actually, I've got a delightful

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<v Speaker 6>card from Dennis, who lives around where I did, and

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<v Speaker 6>he swung by to drop off a card and a

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<v Speaker 6>gift actually, which is very kind of a just to say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 6>have a good year, and all the best for Christmas

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<v Speaker 6>and so on. And he mentioned in his card that

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<v Speaker 6>he had been out puttering during the day and found

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<v Speaker 6>that enormously satisfying as well. If you don't know what

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<v Speaker 6>puttering means, I'll explain a bit later on. But hey, look,

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<v Speaker 6>we're into it for a new year. So this is

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<v Speaker 6>a show all about essentially building literacy. So what I

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<v Speaker 6>want to talk about is stuff that I read about,

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<v Speaker 6>all that I'm involved with and do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>during the course of the year, I'm in a privileged

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<v Speaker 6>position in a sense where I get to attend a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of seminars. I have an opportunity of sort of

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<v Speaker 6>getting an insight into the construction sector and into construction

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<v Speaker 6>practice as well. How we build better houses? And it's complex.

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<v Speaker 6>There's lots and lots of well, initially moving but in

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<v Speaker 6>the end not many moving parts in a house. They

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<v Speaker 6>tend to remain stable. So you know, how do we

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<v Speaker 6>how do we figure out how to do things better

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<v Speaker 6>in order to get better houses? And there was a

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<v Speaker 6>text at the end of last week's show, I obviously

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<v Speaker 6>struck a nerve by talking a little bit about bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't actually talking about bureaucracy, but people there are

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<v Speaker 6>several texts actually quite critical of me in their eyes,

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<v Speaker 6>defending bureaucracy, defending regulations. I don't mind talking about that,

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<v Speaker 6>but later on the show as well, right now in

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<v Speaker 6>the show. Actually, let's not do it later. Let's do

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<v Speaker 6>it right now, because the lines are open. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 6>eighty ten eighty. Is that number to call. You can

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<v Speaker 6>text which is nine two nine two or zbzb from

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<v Speaker 6>your mobile phone, and if you'd like to send me

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<v Speaker 6>an email, you would be more than welcome it as

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<v Speaker 6>Pete atnewstookxb dot co dot nz. So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 6>The lines are open. The number to call eight hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and eighty ten eighty any building related questions, and it

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<v Speaker 6>might be legislation, it might be tools. More than happy

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<v Speaker 6>to talk about tools. Actually I might give you my

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<v Speaker 6>tool of the year. I was thinking about this after

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<v Speaker 6>the show last week, and I was sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>at the end of the year, you kind of I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know. My habit is to be a little bit reflective.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's say a little contemplative thinking back on the year,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was trying to think in amongst a whole

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<v Speaker 6>lot of other thoughts that were rumbling around and my

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<v Speaker 6>head around things like what was the most useful thing

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<v Speaker 6>that I might have purchased or encountered in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>tools over the course of the year. And so I've

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<v Speaker 6>landed on something, possibly two, but certainly one. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 6>we can talk tools, we can talk about projects. We

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<v Speaker 6>can talk about projects that you might have ahead of

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<v Speaker 6>you this year. If you've got something on the drawing

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<v Speaker 6>board back in the old days that you'd like to

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<v Speaker 6>bring to life, how are you going to do it?

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<v Speaker 6>What choices do you make, where do you put your resources?

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<v Speaker 6>And in fact I've just at the end of last

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<v Speaker 6>year I was introduced to via a builder that I know,

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<v Speaker 6>an outstanding builder to be fair, a project that he

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<v Speaker 6>started right in the middle of December, so almost at

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<v Speaker 6>the end of the year. A renovation and addition to

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<v Speaker 6>an existing nineteen fifties house where the clients are particularly

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<v Speaker 6>informed and they want to go high performance. They want

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<v Speaker 6>to create a really energy efficient house out of what

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<v Speaker 6>is an older house, So a deep retrofit with a

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<v Speaker 6>view to making it incredibly energy efficient, a very sustainable home.

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<v Speaker 6>So we'll keep you up to date with that project.

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<v Speaker 6>If that's what you've got on your plate that you'd

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<v Speaker 6>like to do, well, we can talk about that as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Or if it's just a more and a sense more

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<v Speaker 7>modest thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to make my house a little bit warmer,

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<v Speaker 6>drier and more comfortable, then let's talk about that too. Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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<v Speaker 6>Great to be back with you, really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 6>the year ahead. It is six fifteen here on the

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<v Speaker 6>fifth of January twenty twenty five. We're into it, paul A,

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<v Speaker 6>very good morning to you. How are you this morning?

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<v Speaker 8>Paul, Yeah, good morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Into you, into you.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got a.

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<v Speaker 8>Little chip on my kitchen bench. I've got like an

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<v Speaker 8>undermount think and it's right on the rim of the app.

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<v Speaker 8>I've heard you in the past recommend a couple of

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<v Speaker 8>companies that can come around, and already that up. So

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<v Speaker 8>I'm on Central Auklands.

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<v Speaker 6>Depends what's the material, good.

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<v Speaker 8>Question, not sure at some fall of ermine. I've asked

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<v Speaker 8>some people that have come around. It's like a it's

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<v Speaker 8>Scott Constantino's Spain brand underneath it. I'm not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 8>It looks like some sort of resin sort of. It's

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<v Speaker 8>kind of stone sort effect was in the house when

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<v Speaker 8>we brought it, so we're just really tiding it up

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<v Speaker 8>for the new owner really, So yeah, sure, I'm certain,

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<v Speaker 8>but i'd say some sort of reason.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Okay, now that Costantino was a fairly new brand

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<v Speaker 6>that's out, so.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think just too. I've said this house for

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<v Speaker 8>over fifteen years ago. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>think it's a better look online at that brand. I

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<v Speaker 8>can't see any relevant to what I've got for you.

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<v Speaker 6>No, Okay, Look, composites have been around for a while

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<v Speaker 6>and they are quite repairable, so well, in most cases

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<v Speaker 6>they can be. I would start with bench doctors online,

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<v Speaker 6>so they effectively they're kind of like a franchise. I

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<v Speaker 6>think they're around the country and certainly they'll be in Auckland,

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<v Speaker 6>and if they don't know, they'll probably be able to

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<v Speaker 6>put you onto someone like there's another guy that I

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<v Speaker 6>used a little while ago, a crylic fix, but that

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<v Speaker 6>was specifically for a crylic bench top, so things like

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<v Speaker 6>vanity tops and that sort of thing. Where we had

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<v Speaker 6>the classic, you know, finished the project and someone, possibly me,

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<v Speaker 6>possibly another trade, you know, dropped a hammer or a

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<v Speaker 6>chisel onto the edge of the bench and we ended

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<v Speaker 6>up with a chip in it, right yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>there was another one of those a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, look, they can be repaired. I'd start with

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<v Speaker 6>bench doctors go from there. Yeah, okay, yeah, And are

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<v Speaker 6>you staying in the house or are you looking to sell?

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<v Speaker 8>No, we're looking to sell. So just tinting it up

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<v Speaker 8>foot and you ain't like it's the bench stoll I

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<v Speaker 8>that's fairly whole, but it's obviously quite good quality seeing

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<v Speaker 8>your life in it, and I'd say, yeah that that

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<v Speaker 8>kitchen sinks had won too many bands with a under

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<v Speaker 8>the water Yeah, just that's a tiny chap. It's only

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<v Speaker 8>about maybe eight meals by a couple of meals, but

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<v Speaker 8>it's just right and the worst possible place. You see

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<v Speaker 8>it every time you go to.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's one of those things that perhaps you know,

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<v Speaker 6>someone coming in to look at the house prior to purchase,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they see that and they think, oh, then

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<v Speaker 6>I've got to find someone to fix it, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean. And then suddenly it becomes it kind

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<v Speaker 6>of in their head. It goes on that side of

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<v Speaker 6>the ledger that goes stuff that I have to do

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<v Speaker 6>once I bought that house. And I've always thought, actually,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, people have often said, oh, what should I

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<v Speaker 6>do prior to selling the house? And I've always thought,

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<v Speaker 6>you try and tack off those things that leave that

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<v Speaker 6>sort of oh impression in a prospective buyer. You don't

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<v Speaker 6>want them to you know, like open. I went to

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<v Speaker 6>one open home a little while ago. Open the door.

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<v Speaker 6>The front door was open, and down the corner on

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<v Speaker 6>the hinge side, they done some really terrible painting, right.

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<v Speaker 6>The painted bled around and you could see the outside

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<v Speaker 6>was dark and the inside was light, and on that

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<v Speaker 6>edge it was just really ragged, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 6>just went, ah, it just feels like a lack of attention.

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<v Speaker 6>And I would have thought, if that's the first thing

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<v Speaker 6>that a buyer sees when they walk through the door,

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<v Speaker 6>why wouldn't you deal with that? You know, it's that

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<v Speaker 6>sort of thing. So wow, oh mate, hey, good luck

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<v Speaker 6>with that. And yeah, the bench doctor people I've used.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm sure they'll sort you out all the very best.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all of is Paul oh eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 6>ten eighty is that number to call? Quick text has

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<v Speaker 6>come through my house has not been signed off yet?

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<v Speaker 6>Does it have to have things like painting on inside

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<v Speaker 6>walls in carpet or vinyl down? I probably need a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit more detail on that. I presume that when

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<v Speaker 6>you say not signed off yet is.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean? Look, it's unlikely.

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<v Speaker 6>That it would even qualify for a final inspection without

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<v Speaker 6>floor coverings, particularly if floor coverings are necessary in you know,

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<v Speaker 6>wet areas, and that includes now kitchens. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>if it was let's say explosed plywood, then I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think you'd even get a final inspection. And certainly without

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<v Speaker 6>a final inspection, you won't get a certificate or code

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<v Speaker 6>compliance certificate a CCC. So I think you probably need

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<v Speaker 6>to get that done.

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<v Speaker 7>Another quick text as well, Morning Peak. We're about to

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<v Speaker 7>put in the secondhand kitchen.

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<v Speaker 6>It has a gas hob. Can we put a nine

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<v Speaker 6>kg bottle inside the cupboards instead of outside?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 6>So again I'm not a gas fitter, which is licensed trade.

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's possible to have a nine kg bottle exterior,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm pretty sure that having them inside, which I

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<v Speaker 6>know was common working on a kitchen probably twenty years

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<v Speaker 6>ago where that was the case. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>that that would be done that would be suitable anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>And also any gasworks should be done by a registered

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<v Speaker 6>gas fitter as well. That's really really important to say, Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>eight hundred eighty ten eighty, the lines are open. The

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<v Speaker 6>number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you'd

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<v Speaker 6>like to text like these other people have done, which

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<v Speaker 6>would be great, it is nine two nine two is

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<v Speaker 6>ZBZB from your mobile phone. If you'd like ze me

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<v Speaker 6>an email. It's Pete atnewstalksb dot co dot Nz. Just

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<v Speaker 6>gone twenty one minutes after six. The lines are open.

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<v Speaker 6>We always get busy a little bit later in the show,

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<v Speaker 6>and now is a great time to call eight hundred

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<v Speaker 6>eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing other house sorting the garden asked Pete for a

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<v Speaker 1>hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Light Force

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<v Speaker 1>Solar your solar journey in twenty twenty five, call oh,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 7>News talks in me.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, let's get amongst that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 6>Then number to call Kate A very good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 9>Good morning, Pete.

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<v Speaker 7>Happy to year to you and to you into you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm kind of coming to the end stage of my projects,

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<v Speaker 9>which you have given me okay of advice, thank you,

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<v Speaker 9>since since it started in July and even before. Now

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<v Speaker 9>I'm at the point where I need to install a

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<v Speaker 9>fence tank. It's a thin tank for stormwaterer retention, and

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<v Speaker 9>it's going up against the sense. It's three thousand liters yep.

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<v Speaker 9>And beneath the sense there is a hut that they

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<v Speaker 9>made in the ground. So I've sort of exposed some

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<v Speaker 9>concrete of the concrete post, and I'm worried about putting

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<v Speaker 9>some retaining in there. But i can't dig deeply into

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<v Speaker 9>the ground because there's a storm public storm water line

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<v Speaker 9>nearby and I'm not allowed to do that. So but

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<v Speaker 9>looking at options, I don't want to take up a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of depth front to back because there isn't much

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<v Speaker 9>room between this fence in the back of the house. Sure,

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<v Speaker 9>So I've looked at keystone, which will be quite deep.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's about three hundred it's going to take

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<v Speaker 9>up with the scoria and over. I've seen online concrete

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<v Speaker 9>slabs that you can put in place or Gabian, but

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<v Speaker 9>they have to be quite deep as well. I need

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<v Speaker 9>to take it five hundred in hype.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, that was going to be my next question. That's

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<v Speaker 7>actually quite a lot, isn't it. So it's a I

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<v Speaker 7>mean three thousand tank. It's probably about two and a

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<v Speaker 7>half meters long, three meters.

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<v Speaker 9>Long twenty nine fifty three meters long front.

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<v Speaker 7>That yeah, right, do do you have it?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, tanks that are designed to sit on the

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<v Speaker 6>ground are not designed to sit in the ground, right,

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<v Speaker 6>that's obvious, but they can take a little bit of bearing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just wondering whether it would be helpful if depending

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<v Speaker 6>on which end the outletters, and you could some tanks

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<v Speaker 6>have outlets at both ends or one end, and the

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<v Speaker 6>sides are both the same, so it doesn't matter which

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<v Speaker 6>way around you put them. I'm just one just obviously

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<v Speaker 6>it's a sloping site. And does it slope sort of

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<v Speaker 6>along the length of the tank along that three meter

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<v Speaker 6>length or does it slope back to front of the tank? No,

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<v Speaker 6>along the length along the length?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, build it. The builder says he's going to put

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<v Speaker 9>a concrete plint, right, and I've got some sort of

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<v Speaker 9>framing that will hold it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, some tanks require restraint, right, so you need

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<v Speaker 6>to cast in like a timber post, which you can

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<v Speaker 6>then secure. Particularly the tanks that have a quite narrow

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<v Speaker 6>footprint will often require seismic restraint. Look, if you can

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<v Speaker 6>do a concrete pad, that's good. You don't actually have

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<v Speaker 6>to have concrete under them.

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<v Speaker 7>You could.

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<v Speaker 6>The last one that I installed, which was a Bailey

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<v Speaker 6>slim gym tank, we again it was on a sloping site,

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<v Speaker 6>probably a similar slope to yours. I ended up excavating

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<v Speaker 6>down at one end a little bit like one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>mill below the ground, and I could just batter that away.

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<v Speaker 7>I made up a hoop.

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<v Speaker 6>Essentially out of some might have been two hundred or

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<v Speaker 6>two fifty by fifty retaining timber set that on the ground,

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<v Speaker 6>got some compacted base course, and so one end it

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<v Speaker 6>was slightly in the ground and at the other end

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<v Speaker 6>it was slightly out of the ground, and kind of

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<v Speaker 6>we balanced that up and I just put in compacted

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<v Speaker 6>hardfilm and that's been absolutely fine. Saying that that was

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<v Speaker 6>a slightly wider tank, and it also didn't require seismic

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<v Speaker 6>restraint in that particular instance.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I mean, if.

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<v Speaker 6>I would be really tempted to bury one end slightly

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<v Speaker 6>right to excavate down. So you know, if you lose

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<v Speaker 6>two hundred mil there, then suddenly you're only three hundred

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<v Speaker 6>mils out of the ground at the other end. If

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<v Speaker 6>it's five hundred mili slope, you can kind of lose

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<v Speaker 6>it at either end.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh sorry, Pete, I didn't explain it very much. The

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<v Speaker 9>retaining wall has to be five hundred it's not that

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<v Speaker 9>much of a slope.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh okay, But then.

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<v Speaker 9>Why the drop down is five hundred and within that

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<v Speaker 9>there are some massive.

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<v Speaker 7>Tree roots, right, okay, then.

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<v Speaker 9>Ground away we're looking at the side of a tree route.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, okay, Well it's a little tricky without actually seeing it.

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<v Speaker 6>But in terms of actually providing a stable base for

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<v Speaker 6>a water tank like this, right, the ones that just

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<v Speaker 6>sit on the ground, you can do concrete if you want,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's not really necessary. Compacted hardfill is fine. A

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<v Speaker 6>small retaining around it is fine, certainly if you're settling

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<v Speaker 6>it on areas that you think is loose material. I

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<v Speaker 6>try and remove as much of that as you possibly

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<v Speaker 6>can and replace it with compacted hardfill. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>even the compacting it's really just if you've got a temper.

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<v Speaker 7>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't even have to go out and hire a

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<v Speaker 6>plate compact or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm more worried about the wall behind the five hundred retaining.

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<v Speaker 6>Wall right and is it sitting Is that going to

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<v Speaker 6>collapse in? Well, No, I don't think so. And that

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<v Speaker 6>retaining wall behind it. Does that rise above the bottom

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<v Speaker 6>of the tank or does the tank sit on it

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<v Speaker 6>and then the retaining wall is supporting it.

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<v Speaker 9>No, it rises above the bottom of the tank. And

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<v Speaker 9>I'm worried that it's going to cave in on the

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<v Speaker 9>tank and push the tank towards the house. So it's

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<v Speaker 9>five hundred in height at the left land at the

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<v Speaker 9>right hand and it might be four hundred in height.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just dropping a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay. Look.

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<v Speaker 6>The other thing that you could do just to offer

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<v Speaker 6>up some support to the retaining wall is given that

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<v Speaker 6>you if you do have to put in some posts,

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<v Speaker 6>you could then dig those in in front of the

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<v Speaker 6>retaining wall and just make sure you go down a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit deeper and perhaps a slightly bigger hole that

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<v Speaker 6>you can fill with concrete.

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<v Speaker 7>Put that in.

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<v Speaker 6>That will offer up some support to the retaining wall.

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<v Speaker 6>It will also give you the support you need for

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<v Speaker 6>that particular type of tank for the seismic restraint.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I need to put an overcoil and scoria behind that.

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<v Speaker 6>Look for something that's five hundred high, no, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>you know, generally, yes, you need an overcoil and some

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<v Speaker 6>scuory would be good. Putting in some drainage coil. Unless

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<v Speaker 6>it's actually directed somewhere and connected to assessment and connected

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<v Speaker 6>to the storm water, it's probably not a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>point in doing it. I would just put in some

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<v Speaker 6>free drainage material at five hundred high.

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<v Speaker 9>I think on the plans it shows connecting to a

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<v Speaker 9>catch pet.

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<v Speaker 7>Great.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well again, if it's on the plans, then please

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<v Speaker 6>do what's on the plan, because just in case someone

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<v Speaker 6>wants to check it. And yeah, I mean look, drainage

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<v Speaker 6>coil behind a wall makes a massive difference to how

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<v Speaker 6>that wall performs over time. And if there is the

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<v Speaker 6>ability to drop it into a catch pit, which is

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<v Speaker 6>the right thing to do to control the sediment, then

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<v Speaker 6>that's great. And if it's on the plans.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, But I'm not allowed to dig down because of

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<v Speaker 9>the storm water. I'm close to a water care stormwater line.

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<v Speaker 7>Right and that's obviously allow me to go public line

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<v Speaker 7>it is.

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<v Speaker 9>They won't allow me to dig within a meter of it,

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<v Speaker 9>I think, so I just got to stay above that's

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<v Speaker 9>the ground, just a little putting in. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 9>for creative ideas of what products could be used that

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<v Speaker 9>won't take up the whole depth of the space.

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<v Speaker 6>Have got again, the picture I have in my mind

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<v Speaker 6>is I'm coming back to what I did on a

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<v Speaker 6>project about a year ago, probably a bit longer now,

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<v Speaker 6>where I just made up like a hoop, excavated the

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<v Speaker 6>ground a bit, removed the loose material, put that down.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was my form work for my base for

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<v Speaker 6>the water tank like the slim Gin one, and then

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<v Speaker 6>filled it with I probably used half a meter or

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<v Speaker 6>so of base course and put the tank on top

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<v Speaker 6>of there, and that was absolutely fine. Then I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>digging anything down and as long as the base is sound,

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<v Speaker 6>and in your case, you do have I keep emphasizing

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<v Speaker 6>the seismic restraint because again, if it's part of the

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<v Speaker 6>manufacturer speci vacation, then it pays to do it, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, if you need to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>But then if you need to dig in some posts

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<v Speaker 6>and you're not allowed to dig because of the proximity

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<v Speaker 6>to the water care line. I guess this is the

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<v Speaker 6>only option in terms of location for the tank.

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<v Speaker 9>It is. Yeah, okay, yes, you know what has become

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<v Speaker 9>quite tricky about it is it's a longer fence line

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<v Speaker 9>which was in the wrong place, right. The neighbor built

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<v Speaker 9>it too far on my boundary. So I took a

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<v Speaker 9>notchot and I took a not chot that was large

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<v Speaker 9>enough for the tank to sit in so that it

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<v Speaker 9>would be one straight line and on the existing fence.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm with you, not okay.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's going to be all right. But but it's

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<v Speaker 9>just beneath the base of the fence where the posts

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<v Speaker 9>go into the ground. They had to dig down five

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<v Speaker 9>hundred Yes, that's the thing, so that the sense all

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<v Speaker 9>the sense sort of above the ground. It's not eigh

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<v Speaker 9>level or anything.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So I've got this cut in the ground and

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<v Speaker 9>I'm worried the fence is going to kay, then something

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<v Speaker 9>needs to be filling in some of the gaps that

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<v Speaker 9>either notch Yes, so I place the fence there. Look,

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<v Speaker 9>it has to be at each en. It's going to

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<v Speaker 9>take up some of the length of the tank, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>going to have to make that much bigger. I didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't realize that to retain.

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<v Speaker 6>It a little bit, I would try and even out

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<v Speaker 6>the retaining by excavating, you know, pushing down in one

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<v Speaker 6>area and then the height of the retaining in the

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<v Speaker 6>other area is diminished. And also I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I know, in terms of protecting the public asset,

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<v Speaker 6>what water care are concerned about when you build over

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<v Speaker 6>is that you have nothing that bears on the pipe, right,

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<v Speaker 6>But that typically is more of a focus in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of actual buildings. Right, So in the unlikely event that

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<v Speaker 6>someone needs to come and repair that public line in

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<v Speaker 6>the future, they could drain the tank and lift it

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<v Speaker 6>off and do the excavation and get down to it. So,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's not quite the same I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 6>the principle of it. It's not quite the same as

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<v Speaker 6>if you had a house sitting over a public either

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<v Speaker 6>wastewater or storm water line. So I think, well that

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<v Speaker 6>makes sense, Yeah, yeah, you know, it's not quite the

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<v Speaker 6>same duty of care. Let's say, given that it's a

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<v Speaker 6>structure that could be in the event of it needing

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<v Speaker 6>to be moved, could be moved, so again i'd sort

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<v Speaker 6>of dial back the caution on that.

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<v Speaker 9>A little bit, right, Okay, but they still say in

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<v Speaker 9>the plans as they specify keystone. So I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 9>for products.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and look, I've used keystones. And remember there's two.

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<v Speaker 6>There's kind of two different types of keystones as well.

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<v Speaker 6>There's the big heavy one for doing much higher wall,

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<v Speaker 6>and then there's kind of a garden edging one which

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<v Speaker 6>is much smaller, still effective.

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<v Speaker 7>But a lot smaller.

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<v Speaker 9>Take a look how bigger they.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you're probably about three hundred long and maybe

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and twenty deep.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Look, so I find those in high restorers.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, you take care all this wrapping up the project.

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<v Speaker 6>Take care you were new stalks, B and Michelle A

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<v Speaker 6>very good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did you peak?

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<v Speaker 5>Happy New Year?

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<v Speaker 7>And to you, my dear, how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>No complaint?

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<v Speaker 7>Box of fluffies in my corner of the world.

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<v Speaker 5>But I've got plenty to say about the regional.

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<v Speaker 2>Council in the HA space, Go right ahead. I am

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<v Speaker 2>visually impaired.

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<v Speaker 5>Ten years living lockdown, all these problems that came kept

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<v Speaker 5>depector uh COVID you name it, Gabriel. I've survived a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>but I can't do the regional council. I live in Headlock.

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<v Speaker 5>We're a village. We have a district council who looks

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<v Speaker 5>after football stormwater. This is this lovely lady, the last

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<v Speaker 5>corner and it just brought it all back.

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<v Speaker 2>He is my beautiful home wreck and ruined. No stormwater runoff.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole place is thinking. It's the blitter. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>covered by insurance because it's neglect and it's the whole

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<v Speaker 2>wil thing. It just breaks my heart. It's legislation. There's

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<v Speaker 2>my issue. I'm old, I'm blind, I live alone, independent,

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<v Speaker 2>with gorgeous help for mate concern, but adding flex there's

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<v Speaker 2>no vehicle crossing. There is no way for this water

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<v Speaker 2>from maybe road to go to a storm water there

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<v Speaker 2>is none. I live in a sinkhole. Now the house

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<v Speaker 2>is splitting. It's all coming apart and I have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to picture. My dad passed away. It was my everythink,

0:29:10.935 --> 0:29:15.855
<v Speaker 2>my brains in the world. It gives me sanity and

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<v Speaker 2>there do you go? Where do you go with a

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<v Speaker 2>vesical crossing content to stop? I have a shared driveway

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<v Speaker 2>with three others. I'm the only occupy, our owner and

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<v Speaker 2>it only affects my left.

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<v Speaker 6>There any answers, they're probably well, to be fair, sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>there are answers, but you won't like them, right, give

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<v Speaker 6>it to me, No, no, because because I can't you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know all of the details, and and these

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<v Speaker 6>things do get incredibly complex. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 6>one of the things that as a country we're probably

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<v Speaker 6>going to have to face is that some areas that

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<v Speaker 6>we thought we could live in, we can't write that

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<v Speaker 6>that was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Change the subdivision.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right, you know, and possibly areas that we've lived

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<v Speaker 6>in for a you know, a longer period of time

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<v Speaker 6>now a subject of flooding and inundation in ways that

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<v Speaker 6>the only answer is pretty much retreats.

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<v Speaker 2>Me completely, because there's no run off, no still order,

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<v Speaker 2>it's no drainage.

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<v Speaker 6>At that point, you would hope that the state, whether

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<v Speaker 6>that's regional or national, would would be able to say

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<v Speaker 6>to people, hey, look, you know, we we gave you

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<v Speaker 6>a consent to build there thirty forty fifty years ago, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's not nineteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 6>It's no good anymore, and we're going to help you

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<v Speaker 6>to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that it's just a repair drob that should

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<v Speaker 2>have been.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I think some councils are facing the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that they what they're trying to repair. The repair is

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<v Speaker 6>not going to work right that you know, I'm aware of.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to a house that was flooded while ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm now aware that that area they've simply bought

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<v Speaker 6>all of the owners out and they've said it's in practice,

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<v Speaker 6>nothing we can do is going to stop the flooding

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<v Speaker 6>in the future, So we're just going to have to

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<v Speaker 6>buy you out now. Obviously counsels don't really want to

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<v Speaker 6>be in that position because that's a really expensive activity

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<v Speaker 6>and so on, but it is going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>reality that we're going to have to accept, I think,

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<v Speaker 6>and maybe you fall into that category.

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<v Speaker 7>I just wonder if not.

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<v Speaker 5>Really neglect any right, this is why there's no insurance

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<v Speaker 5>because when I actually got a lawyer onto the case

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<v Speaker 5>because she said this is wrong, they've just not finished

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<v Speaker 5>the job because they're not on the same page. Why

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<v Speaker 5>are they a regional look after the roading and the

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<v Speaker 5>district look after the footpath? They did a new footpath.

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<v Speaker 2>Used half of my property as.

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<v Speaker 5>Except to the vehicle crossing on the main road, but

0:32:08.895 --> 0:32:12.095
<v Speaker 5>they didn't put a storm water. So I am the

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<v Speaker 5>one who wears all the runoff from Napier Road. It's

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<v Speaker 5>poisoned my land.

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<v Speaker 6>It's poisoned that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there is provision within I think it's the

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<v Speaker 6>Property Act in particular that talks about.

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<v Speaker 7>Right about it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm just wondering whether for you, Michelle, given your circumstances,

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<v Speaker 6>is that maybe maybe through age concern, or through great

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<v Speaker 6>power or through advice at all.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, you're the next step, darling.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving up. Squeaking will get the results.

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<v Speaker 6>And sometimes I had this conversation with him, with your knowledge,

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<v Speaker 6>who had an idea and he's like, tell me if

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<v Speaker 6>it's a good idea or not. Look, I My sense

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<v Speaker 6>is for in your circumstances, you kind of want an advocate,

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<v Speaker 6>right which might be a retired lawyer. It might be

0:33:14.295 --> 0:33:16.735
<v Speaker 6>someone who's involved in community work, who can sort of

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<v Speaker 6>assess all of the documentation, all of the.

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<v Speaker 2>From the district council. He tried to advocate on my behalfer.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't get any want.

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<v Speaker 2>To see the exit. He did as much as he

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<v Speaker 2>was in his power. It's legislation on the regional council

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>Of it, either local councilor or member of parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've been there.

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<v Speaker 5>They're beautiful.

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<v Speaker 7>So still don't get anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Feeling for the situation, but can't fix it themselves. It's

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<v Speaker 2>up to legislation. And I couldn't get a constant to

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<v Speaker 2>get another person to do a vehicle exit because it's

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<v Speaker 2>ENCROATIREUS on regional and they wouldn't pay. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>had Cabrielle and now and then my son died and

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<v Speaker 2>he was my advocate, and now I'm just lost. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with weird age concern. They are my best freens, the

0:34:10.415 --> 0:34:14.175
<v Speaker 2>beautiful people and what they do, so they provide that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to leave home. There's no transport, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no buzzers in my side of the road to accommodate transport.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't use the free taxi. It's a burden on

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<v Speaker 2>some tax player, but I don't need it.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it's all Are you in a position where you

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<v Speaker 6>could sell.

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<v Speaker 7>And move on.

0:34:33.735 --> 0:34:37.895
<v Speaker 2>I'm still paying a mortgage. It's not good because it's

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<v Speaker 2>just moosing value. And I'm on a bench only night

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<v Speaker 2>and day all my life to get every home that's

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. She said, get ready. Our village is

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<v Speaker 2>more understanding because in township, you just come the next

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<v Speaker 2>door neighbor. The village is amazing. I live independent, alone,

0:35:03.855 --> 0:35:08.695
<v Speaker 2>and I I'm so blessed with the kindness of others.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't fix legislation and can't fix it.

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<v Speaker 6>No, And that's where I wonder whether, in some sense, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 6>that the problem is. I mean, we like to think

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<v Speaker 6>of all problems are being solvable, but possibly they're not.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't mean that in a dismissive sense. I

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<v Speaker 6>just know sometimes it feels I do feel that an advocate.

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<v Speaker 6>You mentioned you lost your son. My condolence is for that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just I tell you, could you just stay on

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<v Speaker 6>the line, keep you and Mark will get your number

0:35:41.735 --> 0:35:44.255
<v Speaker 6>and I'll put my thinking cap on and we'll see

0:35:44.255 --> 0:35:47.975
<v Speaker 6>what we can do. Maybe the one with the runoff

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<v Speaker 6>needs to go to the Minister of Building. Probably not

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<v Speaker 6>really their thing. I think it's that local advocate thing,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe a retired lawyer looking for a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a push.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll be back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

0:36:01.655 --> 0:36:02.255
<v Speaker 1>how to fix.

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<v Speaker 2>That hole in the wall.

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<v Speaker 6>Some texts coming in with regard to the conversation with Michelle.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see what we can do there. A couple of

0:36:19.695 --> 0:36:22.415
<v Speaker 6>useful ones, couple of to be fair not so useful ones.

0:36:22.615 --> 0:36:24.535
<v Speaker 6>We'll we'll talk about that a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 6>the show. If you've got a question of a building nature,

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<v Speaker 6>call us now oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 6>Your news talk said B, Oh eight hundred eighty ten

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<v Speaker 6>eighty is the number? Hello Janet, Yes hi, My.

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<v Speaker 10>Question is rather trivial compared to the last role. I

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<v Speaker 10>have a shower enclosure which I want to revamp. It's

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<v Speaker 10>very old. It's been in the in the downstairs here

0:37:06.495 --> 0:37:10.615
<v Speaker 10>of our property, so it's got a concrete floor and

0:37:10.775 --> 0:37:14.855
<v Speaker 10>the shower there has and I don't know what you

0:37:14.975 --> 0:37:17.055
<v Speaker 10>call it, but it's an old fashioned trap. It's not

0:37:17.175 --> 0:37:19.935
<v Speaker 10>an easy waste one, so you have to step step

0:37:20.095 --> 0:37:22.935
<v Speaker 10>up into it. Yes, I want to do a complete

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<v Speaker 10>revamp of a whole lot. I was wondering, can I

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<v Speaker 10>lower that down and do an easy trap trap installation,

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<v Speaker 10>but it would have to drain from it has got

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<v Speaker 10>about one point five meters to the outside wall to

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<v Speaker 10>where the trap is, So I don't know what sort

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<v Speaker 10>of height I'm going to get in the advantage changing

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<v Speaker 10>to an easy trap, or still better to stay with

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<v Speaker 10>the old one.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you say the old one, so what you

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<v Speaker 6>think is underneath the shower tray is a sort of

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<v Speaker 6>conventional P or an S trap, right, So.

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<v Speaker 10>It comes down like you have under a hand basin.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, So I mean typically that's what I was

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<v Speaker 6>looking at one the other day.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe a two.

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<v Speaker 6>Hundred mil turn and thirty mil from let's say the

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<v Speaker 6>outlet to the bottom of the bend and then back

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<v Speaker 6>up again, and an easy waste are often about eighty

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<v Speaker 6>to ninety. So I think there's an easy one hundred,

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and fifty mil that you might get out

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<v Speaker 6>of it by changing that. Obviously it will require removing

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<v Speaker 6>the lining, pulling out the shower tray, reframing that area,

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<v Speaker 6>dropping it down lower. But yeah, I mean yes, there

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<v Speaker 6>are obvious savings by using an easy trap.

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<v Speaker 7>Which is a lot sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, no, Now, so that brings me to my next question.

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<v Speaker 10>All of the sort of custom built shower trays now

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<v Speaker 10>because this has got an old stone still, Yeah, all

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<v Speaker 10>of the custom built ones now there's sort of for

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<v Speaker 10>sort of more level thraw a level plumbing underneath. Of course,

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<v Speaker 10>it's a concrete saw, so we can't do that. It's

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<v Speaker 10>got to go out the wall. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 10>do you need to build a frame for those?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know what you're saying, Yes you would, So

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<v Speaker 6>it's essentially, you know, you know where your pipe work's

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<v Speaker 6>got to go, so you can't frame up there, but

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<v Speaker 6>you can frame around it, lay in, use tennalized timber,

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<v Speaker 6>and put some tannalized ply down. Create a platform for

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<v Speaker 6>your now lower shower tray to sit on. And as

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<v Speaker 6>long as the shower tray is fully supported just as

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<v Speaker 6>if it was sitting on the ground, then that'll.

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<v Speaker 10>Be fine, right, fine, Okay, then how do you finish

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<v Speaker 10>off sort of the front face of it, because you're

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<v Speaker 10>still going to have to step up there.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that's right, you will.

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<v Speaker 5>Look.

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<v Speaker 6>The most simple way would probably be tiles or something similar.

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<v Speaker 6>If you were using a vinyl on the floor, you

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<v Speaker 6>could bring the vinyl up. But what's what's on the

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<v Speaker 6>concrete floor of the bathroom anyway?

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<v Speaker 10>It's four in which is all getting ripped up, So

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<v Speaker 10>we're put to be doing a complete revamp of that downstairs.

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<v Speaker 6>Would you put vinyl as in sheet vinyl down again?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Then I would just form an upstand and have the

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<v Speaker 6>vinyl come up. And ideally, if when you're framing the

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<v Speaker 6>platform for the shower tray, you set it back a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of millimeters so that the vinyl can actually tuck

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<v Speaker 6>up underneath the lip of the shower tray, right okay,

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<v Speaker 6>Or you could have a little step flashing in there

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<v Speaker 6>as another option. But you just want to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>that if you're going to bring the vinyl up that upstand,

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<v Speaker 6>that you don't provide access for water to penetrate, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>from the top, right, so just condensation and overflow from

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<v Speaker 6>the shower, So as long as it tucks either tucks

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<v Speaker 6>underneath the shower tray or you have a little step

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<v Speaker 6>flashing there that will make it waterproof.

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<v Speaker 10>Well okay, yep, no, no, that's fine. And you don't

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<v Speaker 10>like with the old fashion traps you needed to have

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<v Speaker 10>access to these.

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<v Speaker 6>You can clean from the top, you can clean from

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<v Speaker 6>the trot.

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<v Speaker 2>A way to go.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll make a big difference to that that step up,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's always a bit nervous, isn't it nerve racking?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's more nerve racking stepping out of the

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<v Speaker 6>shower and when you're slightly unbalanced.

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