1 00:00:06,855 --> 00:00:10,695 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:15,415 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. Squeaky Door or Squeaky Floor. 3 00:00:15,895 --> 00:00:19,615 Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peterwolfcamp The Resident Builder with 4 00:00:19,815 --> 00:00:23,255 Speaker 1: Lightfoursolar dot Co, dot insiead switch to solar in twenty 5 00:00:23,295 --> 00:00:26,015 Speaker 1: twenty five and pay less for power us talks at B. 6 00:00:27,415 --> 00:00:30,615 Speaker 2: A house sizzor even when it's dog. 7 00:00:32,575 --> 00:00:37,815 Speaker 3: Even when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even 8 00:00:37,895 --> 00:00:42,175 Speaker 3: when a dog is too old to bar, and when 9 00:00:42,215 --> 00:00:46,655 Speaker 3: you're sitting at the table trying not to start. Oh 10 00:00:47,335 --> 00:00:48,655 Speaker 3: scissor home. 11 00:00:49,535 --> 00:01:07,095 Speaker 4: Even when we bend, even when you're therellonezzo. House is 12 00:01:07,135 --> 00:01:11,655 Speaker 4: a hold, even when there's ghost, even. 13 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:15,055 Speaker 5: When you got around from the ones you love, your moves. 14 00:01:16,215 --> 00:01:22,135 Speaker 3: Scream doors, broken pants, appeeling from the world, locals, vestment 15 00:01:22,175 --> 00:01:23,535 Speaker 3: when they're gone, and leaving the. 16 00:01:25,495 --> 00:01:29,295 Speaker 4: Have, even when. 17 00:01:29,215 --> 00:01:41,655 Speaker 3: We'll rebne, even when you're very lone. 18 00:01:41,855 --> 00:01:44,975 Speaker 6: A well, a very very good morning and a warm 19 00:01:45,135 --> 00:01:47,615 Speaker 6: welcome to you on this the first show, the first 20 00:01:47,655 --> 00:01:50,055 Speaker 6: Resident Builder on Sunday show here at News Talk Seed 21 00:01:50,135 --> 00:01:53,775 Speaker 6: B for twenty twenty five. So it is a great 22 00:01:53,815 --> 00:01:57,375 Speaker 6: pleasure to return. Well, we haven't really taken a break, 23 00:01:57,415 --> 00:01:59,655 Speaker 6: to be fair, but it's great to be back, and 24 00:01:59,695 --> 00:02:02,935 Speaker 6: it's it is twenty twenty five, and that brings with it, 25 00:02:03,015 --> 00:02:08,415 Speaker 6: I suppose optimism, hope, opportunity, potential for a year ahead. 26 00:02:09,015 --> 00:02:12,455 Speaker 6: Certainly there's plenty of challenges out there for the construction sector, 27 00:02:12,495 --> 00:02:15,535 Speaker 6: for the economy in general, to be fair, so we'll 28 00:02:15,535 --> 00:02:18,175 Speaker 6: see how that pans out over the course of the year. 29 00:02:18,855 --> 00:02:20,975 Speaker 6: But it is delightful to be back. I trust that 30 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:25,855 Speaker 6: you had a good New Year's celebration. Hopefully if it 31 00:02:25,975 --> 00:02:28,495 Speaker 6: was festive, it was not festive with some sort of 32 00:02:28,535 --> 00:02:30,495 Speaker 6: long lingering hangover or some. 33 00:02:31,975 --> 00:02:33,695 Speaker 7: Yeah something you've got of it later on. 34 00:02:33,855 --> 00:02:36,575 Speaker 6: But anyway, if you've had a hopefully you've had a 35 00:02:36,615 --> 00:02:40,095 Speaker 6: good New Year's and you are preparing yourself for the 36 00:02:40,175 --> 00:02:42,775 Speaker 6: year ahead. If you've been out in the garden, or 37 00:02:42,855 --> 00:02:45,055 Speaker 6: you've been working around the house, or you've been doing 38 00:02:45,055 --> 00:02:48,255 Speaker 6: some jobs inside, I hope they've been going well or 39 00:02:48,295 --> 00:02:51,655 Speaker 6: as well as they possibly can. I did actually notice 40 00:02:51,695 --> 00:02:55,135 Speaker 6: in my neighborhood someone was out with power tools on 41 00:02:55,255 --> 00:02:58,295 Speaker 6: New Year's Day. They were cracking into it. I don't 42 00:02:58,335 --> 00:03:00,215 Speaker 6: know what it was. It might have been a water blaster. 43 00:03:00,815 --> 00:03:03,655 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I heard a grinder out there somewhere. 44 00:03:04,015 --> 00:03:06,295 Speaker 6: Not sure that I heard a skill saw or a chainsaw, 45 00:03:07,175 --> 00:03:09,335 Speaker 6: but certainly some people were out and about with power 46 00:03:09,375 --> 00:03:13,295 Speaker 6: tools on New Year's Day, possibly having a sort of 47 00:03:13,295 --> 00:03:15,495 Speaker 6: a very sober night and then wanting to rub in 48 00:03:15,975 --> 00:03:19,495 Speaker 6: their vigor and their determination to greet the new year 49 00:03:19,535 --> 00:03:22,855 Speaker 6: with activity. For those who maybe were lingering a little 50 00:03:22,855 --> 00:03:25,895 Speaker 6: bit in bed a bit longer on New Year's Day radio, 51 00:03:26,055 --> 00:03:29,175 Speaker 6: we're into it. So the year ahead will be fascinating. 52 00:03:29,255 --> 00:03:32,735 Speaker 6: I think from a political point of view, it's going 53 00:03:32,815 --> 00:03:34,855 Speaker 6: to be interesting to see whether so much of what 54 00:03:35,055 --> 00:03:38,975 Speaker 6: was talked about last year, in terms of lessening bureaucracy, 55 00:03:39,255 --> 00:03:42,895 Speaker 6: trying to speed up the construction or the consenting process, 56 00:03:43,335 --> 00:03:46,455 Speaker 6: any of those sorts of things come to fruition, whether 57 00:03:46,535 --> 00:03:50,455 Speaker 6: or not after a lot of consultation around standards, and 58 00:03:50,495 --> 00:03:53,135 Speaker 6: whether or not the increased standards for H one, which 59 00:03:53,215 --> 00:03:57,255 Speaker 6: is the insulation requirements, will be wound back in order 60 00:03:57,295 --> 00:04:00,135 Speaker 6: to try and find some savings for the cost of 61 00:04:00,175 --> 00:04:04,935 Speaker 6: building houses. Whether that actually comes to something I personally 62 00:04:04,975 --> 00:04:07,535 Speaker 6: hope not in the scene. It's that I don't think 63 00:04:07,575 --> 00:04:10,455 Speaker 6: that we need to wind back EH one standards, but 64 00:04:10,495 --> 00:04:12,055 Speaker 6: we do need to get rid of the schedule method, 65 00:04:12,095 --> 00:04:13,615 Speaker 6: so we'll we can talk about that. 66 00:04:15,055 --> 00:04:16,615 Speaker 7: It's going to be a fascinating year. Head. 67 00:04:16,655 --> 00:04:20,375 Speaker 6: So if you've got a project that is underway and 68 00:04:20,415 --> 00:04:23,615 Speaker 6: maybe you'd like some help with it, or you've started something, 69 00:04:23,695 --> 00:04:27,215 Speaker 6: perhaps you've got some new tools. Like me, I don't 70 00:04:27,215 --> 00:04:30,095 Speaker 6: actually get any tools for Christmas. Buying tools for me 71 00:04:30,175 --> 00:04:33,295 Speaker 6: for Christmas could be a little bit tricky. However, I 72 00:04:33,335 --> 00:04:36,495 Speaker 6: have been out shopping over the Christmas break and I 73 00:04:36,535 --> 00:04:38,855 Speaker 6: picked up a couple of little things that I felt 74 00:04:38,895 --> 00:04:42,735 Speaker 6: that I needed that were a gap in the arsenal, 75 00:04:42,855 --> 00:04:45,415 Speaker 6: a gap in the repertoire of tools that I might 76 00:04:45,455 --> 00:04:46,895 Speaker 6: have in the tool shed. So we can talk a 77 00:04:46,935 --> 00:04:50,175 Speaker 6: little bit about those. But later on this morning, and 78 00:04:50,535 --> 00:04:52,455 Speaker 6: I did actually spend a little bit of happy time 79 00:04:52,535 --> 00:04:57,975 Speaker 6: in the workshop, just kind of organizing, sort of puttering. Puttering, 80 00:04:58,015 --> 00:05:01,255 Speaker 6: I think was my word for twenty twenty four. At 81 00:05:01,255 --> 00:05:03,495 Speaker 6: some stage during twenty twenty five, I'll think of another 82 00:05:03,495 --> 00:05:05,935 Speaker 6: word or find another word that I like. I'm not 83 00:05:05,935 --> 00:05:08,215 Speaker 6: making up, I just find them and I like them. 84 00:05:08,295 --> 00:05:11,415 Speaker 6: Puttering was a great word. Actually, I've got a delightful 85 00:05:11,495 --> 00:05:15,895 Speaker 6: card from Dennis, who lives around where I did, and 86 00:05:17,015 --> 00:05:19,215 Speaker 6: he swung by to drop off a card and a 87 00:05:19,255 --> 00:05:22,495 Speaker 6: gift actually, which is very kind of a just to say, hey, look, 88 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:25,215 Speaker 6: have a good year, and all the best for Christmas 89 00:05:25,295 --> 00:05:28,735 Speaker 6: and so on. And he mentioned in his card that 90 00:05:28,855 --> 00:05:33,415 Speaker 6: he had been out puttering during the day and found 91 00:05:33,455 --> 00:05:36,215 Speaker 6: that enormously satisfying as well. If you don't know what 92 00:05:36,255 --> 00:05:38,975 Speaker 6: puttering means, I'll explain a bit later on. But hey, look, 93 00:05:39,015 --> 00:05:41,575 Speaker 6: we're into it for a new year. So this is 94 00:05:41,615 --> 00:05:47,015 Speaker 6: a show all about essentially building literacy. So what I 95 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:49,535 Speaker 6: want to talk about is stuff that I read about, 96 00:05:49,535 --> 00:05:52,615 Speaker 6: all that I'm involved with and do. And you know, 97 00:05:52,695 --> 00:05:54,695 Speaker 6: during the course of the year, I'm in a privileged 98 00:05:54,695 --> 00:05:56,535 Speaker 6: position in a sense where I get to attend a 99 00:05:56,535 --> 00:05:59,535 Speaker 6: lot of seminars. I have an opportunity of sort of 100 00:05:59,535 --> 00:06:04,135 Speaker 6: getting an insight into the construction sector and into construction 101 00:06:04,375 --> 00:06:09,735 Speaker 6: practice as well. How we build better houses? And it's complex. 102 00:06:10,055 --> 00:06:12,735 Speaker 6: There's lots and lots of well, initially moving but in 103 00:06:12,775 --> 00:06:15,255 Speaker 6: the end not many moving parts in a house. They 104 00:06:15,295 --> 00:06:18,335 Speaker 6: tend to remain stable. So you know, how do we 105 00:06:19,055 --> 00:06:21,335 Speaker 6: how do we figure out how to do things better 106 00:06:21,695 --> 00:06:23,975 Speaker 6: in order to get better houses? And there was a 107 00:06:24,055 --> 00:06:25,935 Speaker 6: text at the end of last week's show, I obviously 108 00:06:25,935 --> 00:06:28,855 Speaker 6: struck a nerve by talking a little bit about bureaucracy. 109 00:06:29,855 --> 00:06:33,175 Speaker 6: I wasn't actually talking about bureaucracy, but people there are 110 00:06:33,255 --> 00:06:37,415 Speaker 6: several texts actually quite critical of me in their eyes, 111 00:06:37,535 --> 00:06:42,455 Speaker 6: defending bureaucracy, defending regulations. I don't mind talking about that, 112 00:06:42,495 --> 00:06:44,815 Speaker 6: but later on the show as well, right now in 113 00:06:44,895 --> 00:06:47,175 Speaker 6: the show. Actually, let's not do it later. Let's do 114 00:06:47,215 --> 00:06:49,535 Speaker 6: it right now, because the lines are open. Eight hundred 115 00:06:49,655 --> 00:06:52,735 Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty. Is that number to call. You can 116 00:06:52,855 --> 00:06:55,935 Speaker 6: text which is nine two nine two or zbzb from 117 00:06:55,975 --> 00:06:57,935 Speaker 6: your mobile phone, and if you'd like to send me 118 00:06:57,975 --> 00:07:00,015 Speaker 6: an email, you would be more than welcome it as 119 00:07:00,055 --> 00:07:04,295 Speaker 6: Pete atnewstookxb dot co dot nz. So let's get into it. 120 00:07:04,575 --> 00:07:06,775 Speaker 6: The lines are open. The number to call eight hundred 121 00:07:06,775 --> 00:07:10,135 Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty any building related questions, and it 122 00:07:10,215 --> 00:07:15,015 Speaker 6: might be legislation, it might be tools. More than happy 123 00:07:15,055 --> 00:07:17,775 Speaker 6: to talk about tools. Actually I might give you my 124 00:07:17,855 --> 00:07:21,135 Speaker 6: tool of the year. I was thinking about this after 125 00:07:21,175 --> 00:07:23,255 Speaker 6: the show last week, and I was sort of, you know, 126 00:07:23,455 --> 00:07:25,055 Speaker 6: at the end of the year, you kind of I 127 00:07:25,055 --> 00:07:28,295 Speaker 6: don't know. My habit is to be a little bit reflective. 128 00:07:28,415 --> 00:07:31,695 Speaker 6: Let's say a little contemplative thinking back on the year, 129 00:07:31,695 --> 00:07:33,775 Speaker 6: and I was trying to think in amongst a whole 130 00:07:33,775 --> 00:07:37,335 Speaker 6: lot of other thoughts that were rumbling around and my 131 00:07:37,415 --> 00:07:40,175 Speaker 6: head around things like what was the most useful thing 132 00:07:40,215 --> 00:07:42,575 Speaker 6: that I might have purchased or encountered in terms of 133 00:07:42,655 --> 00:07:46,015 Speaker 6: tools over the course of the year. And so I've 134 00:07:46,095 --> 00:07:51,335 Speaker 6: landed on something, possibly two, but certainly one. Anyway, So 135 00:07:51,415 --> 00:07:53,335 Speaker 6: we can talk tools, we can talk about projects. We 136 00:07:53,335 --> 00:07:56,095 Speaker 6: can talk about projects that you might have ahead of 137 00:07:56,095 --> 00:07:58,815 Speaker 6: you this year. If you've got something on the drawing 138 00:07:58,855 --> 00:08:01,295 Speaker 6: board back in the old days that you'd like to 139 00:08:01,295 --> 00:08:02,815 Speaker 6: bring to life, how are you going to do it? 140 00:08:02,895 --> 00:08:07,175 Speaker 6: What choices do you make, where do you put your resources? 141 00:08:07,655 --> 00:08:10,335 Speaker 6: And in fact I've just at the end of last 142 00:08:10,415 --> 00:08:14,135 Speaker 6: year I was introduced to via a builder that I know, 143 00:08:15,575 --> 00:08:18,335 Speaker 6: an outstanding builder to be fair, a project that he 144 00:08:18,455 --> 00:08:21,415 Speaker 6: started right in the middle of December, so almost at 145 00:08:21,415 --> 00:08:25,295 Speaker 6: the end of the year. A renovation and addition to 146 00:08:25,335 --> 00:08:29,015 Speaker 6: an existing nineteen fifties house where the clients are particularly 147 00:08:29,015 --> 00:08:31,815 Speaker 6: informed and they want to go high performance. They want 148 00:08:31,855 --> 00:08:37,015 Speaker 6: to create a really energy efficient house out of what 149 00:08:37,215 --> 00:08:40,895 Speaker 6: is an older house, So a deep retrofit with a 150 00:08:40,975 --> 00:08:46,015 Speaker 6: view to making it incredibly energy efficient, a very sustainable home. 151 00:08:46,815 --> 00:08:48,415 Speaker 6: So we'll keep you up to date with that project. 152 00:08:48,455 --> 00:08:50,615 Speaker 6: If that's what you've got on your plate that you'd 153 00:08:50,655 --> 00:08:52,895 Speaker 6: like to do, well, we can talk about that as well. 154 00:08:52,975 --> 00:08:55,295 Speaker 7: Or if it's just a more and a sense more 155 00:08:55,295 --> 00:08:55,855 Speaker 7: modest thing. 156 00:08:55,975 --> 00:08:58,455 Speaker 6: I just want to make my house a little bit warmer, 157 00:08:58,615 --> 00:09:03,135 Speaker 6: drier and more comfortable, then let's talk about that too. Oh, 158 00:09:03,215 --> 00:09:05,415 Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 159 00:09:05,655 --> 00:09:07,735 Speaker 6: Great to be back with you, really looking forward to 160 00:09:07,735 --> 00:09:10,735 Speaker 6: the year ahead. It is six fifteen here on the 161 00:09:10,775 --> 00:09:14,295 Speaker 6: fifth of January twenty twenty five. We're into it, paul A, 162 00:09:14,495 --> 00:09:16,215 Speaker 6: very good morning to you. How are you this morning? 163 00:09:16,255 --> 00:09:19,535 Speaker 8: Paul, Yeah, good morning. 164 00:09:19,175 --> 00:09:20,815 Speaker 7: Into you, into you. 165 00:09:21,175 --> 00:09:21,575 Speaker 5: I've got a. 166 00:09:21,575 --> 00:09:24,135 Speaker 8: Little chip on my kitchen bench. I've got like an 167 00:09:24,215 --> 00:09:26,855 Speaker 8: undermount think and it's right on the rim of the app. 168 00:09:27,215 --> 00:09:29,335 Speaker 8: I've heard you in the past recommend a couple of 169 00:09:29,415 --> 00:09:32,175 Speaker 8: companies that can come around, and already that up. So 170 00:09:32,535 --> 00:09:33,735 Speaker 8: I'm on Central Auklands. 171 00:09:34,215 --> 00:09:37,575 Speaker 6: Depends what's the material, good. 172 00:09:37,455 --> 00:09:40,375 Speaker 8: Question, not sure at some fall of ermine. I've asked 173 00:09:40,375 --> 00:09:42,615 Speaker 8: some people that have come around. It's like a it's 174 00:09:42,655 --> 00:09:46,375 Speaker 8: Scott Constantino's Spain brand underneath it. I'm not quite sure. 175 00:09:46,495 --> 00:09:49,455 Speaker 8: It looks like some sort of resin sort of. It's 176 00:09:49,495 --> 00:09:51,455 Speaker 8: kind of stone sort effect was in the house when 177 00:09:51,495 --> 00:09:53,335 Speaker 8: we brought it, so we're just really tiding it up 178 00:09:53,415 --> 00:09:56,815 Speaker 8: for the new owner really, So yeah, sure, I'm certain, 179 00:09:56,895 --> 00:09:58,415 Speaker 8: but i'd say some sort of reason. 180 00:09:59,295 --> 00:10:04,975 Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, now that Costantino was a fairly new brand 181 00:10:05,015 --> 00:10:07,175 Speaker 6: that's out, so. 182 00:10:07,575 --> 00:10:10,455 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think just too. I've said this house for 183 00:10:10,775 --> 00:10:15,375 Speaker 8: over fifteen years ago. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't 184 00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:17,535 Speaker 8: think it's a better look online at that brand. I 185 00:10:17,535 --> 00:10:19,895 Speaker 8: can't see any relevant to what I've got for you. 186 00:10:19,935 --> 00:10:22,975 Speaker 6: No, Okay, Look, composites have been around for a while 187 00:10:23,135 --> 00:10:27,295 Speaker 6: and they are quite repairable, so well, in most cases 188 00:10:27,295 --> 00:10:32,975 Speaker 6: they can be. I would start with bench doctors online, 189 00:10:33,015 --> 00:10:35,815 Speaker 6: so they effectively they're kind of like a franchise. I 190 00:10:35,815 --> 00:10:39,095 Speaker 6: think they're around the country and certainly they'll be in Auckland, 191 00:10:40,495 --> 00:10:43,535 Speaker 6: and if they don't know, they'll probably be able to 192 00:10:43,575 --> 00:10:46,455 Speaker 6: put you onto someone like there's another guy that I 193 00:10:46,535 --> 00:10:49,455 Speaker 6: used a little while ago, a crylic fix, but that 194 00:10:49,695 --> 00:10:52,695 Speaker 6: was specifically for a crylic bench top, so things like 195 00:10:52,895 --> 00:10:55,055 Speaker 6: vanity tops and that sort of thing. Where we had 196 00:10:55,055 --> 00:10:59,815 Speaker 6: the classic, you know, finished the project and someone, possibly me, 197 00:11:00,015 --> 00:11:03,615 Speaker 6: possibly another trade, you know, dropped a hammer or a 198 00:11:03,695 --> 00:11:06,935 Speaker 6: chisel onto the edge of the bench and we ended 199 00:11:06,975 --> 00:11:12,015 Speaker 6: up with a chip in it, right yeah, oh yeah, 200 00:11:12,015 --> 00:11:13,895 Speaker 6: there was another one of those a little while ago. 201 00:11:15,055 --> 00:11:17,175 Speaker 6: So yeah, look, they can be repaired. I'd start with 202 00:11:17,215 --> 00:11:22,215 Speaker 6: bench doctors go from there. Yeah, okay, yeah, And are 203 00:11:22,255 --> 00:11:24,175 Speaker 6: you staying in the house or are you looking to sell? 204 00:11:25,135 --> 00:11:27,255 Speaker 8: No, we're looking to sell. So just tinting it up 205 00:11:27,255 --> 00:11:28,975 Speaker 8: foot and you ain't like it's the bench stoll I 206 00:11:29,135 --> 00:11:32,095 Speaker 8: that's fairly whole, but it's obviously quite good quality seeing 207 00:11:32,135 --> 00:11:34,855 Speaker 8: your life in it, and I'd say, yeah that that 208 00:11:35,055 --> 00:11:38,855 Speaker 8: kitchen sinks had won too many bands with a under 209 00:11:38,895 --> 00:11:42,095 Speaker 8: the water Yeah, just that's a tiny chap. It's only 210 00:11:42,095 --> 00:11:44,175 Speaker 8: about maybe eight meals by a couple of meals, but 211 00:11:44,255 --> 00:11:46,655 Speaker 8: it's just right and the worst possible place. You see 212 00:11:46,655 --> 00:11:47,455 Speaker 8: it every time you go to. 213 00:11:47,495 --> 00:11:49,575 Speaker 7: The thing, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 214 00:11:49,615 --> 00:11:51,535 Speaker 6: And it's one of those things that perhaps you know, 215 00:11:51,615 --> 00:11:54,975 Speaker 6: someone coming in to look at the house prior to purchase, 216 00:11:55,015 --> 00:11:57,255 Speaker 6: and then they see that and they think, oh, then 217 00:11:57,335 --> 00:11:59,975 Speaker 6: I've got to find someone to fix it, you know 218 00:11:59,975 --> 00:12:02,695 Speaker 6: what I mean. And then suddenly it becomes it kind 219 00:12:02,695 --> 00:12:04,535 Speaker 6: of in their head. It goes on that side of 220 00:12:04,535 --> 00:12:06,735 Speaker 6: the ledger that goes stuff that I have to do 221 00:12:06,775 --> 00:12:09,255 Speaker 6: once I bought that house. And I've always thought, actually, 222 00:12:10,615 --> 00:12:12,335 Speaker 6: you know, people have often said, oh, what should I 223 00:12:12,375 --> 00:12:14,735 Speaker 6: do prior to selling the house? And I've always thought, 224 00:12:15,095 --> 00:12:18,055 Speaker 6: you try and tack off those things that leave that 225 00:12:18,295 --> 00:12:22,495 Speaker 6: sort of oh impression in a prospective buyer. You don't 226 00:12:22,535 --> 00:12:24,815 Speaker 6: want them to you know, like open. I went to 227 00:12:24,815 --> 00:12:27,055 Speaker 6: one open home a little while ago. Open the door. 228 00:12:27,975 --> 00:12:30,615 Speaker 6: The front door was open, and down the corner on 229 00:12:30,695 --> 00:12:34,295 Speaker 6: the hinge side, they done some really terrible painting, right. 230 00:12:34,415 --> 00:12:37,535 Speaker 6: The painted bled around and you could see the outside 231 00:12:37,655 --> 00:12:39,615 Speaker 6: was dark and the inside was light, and on that 232 00:12:39,855 --> 00:12:42,575 Speaker 6: edge it was just really ragged, and it kind of 233 00:12:42,615 --> 00:12:46,335 Speaker 6: just went, ah, it just feels like a lack of attention. 234 00:12:46,495 --> 00:12:48,655 Speaker 6: And I would have thought, if that's the first thing 235 00:12:48,695 --> 00:12:50,535 Speaker 6: that a buyer sees when they walk through the door, 236 00:12:50,575 --> 00:12:53,735 Speaker 6: why wouldn't you deal with that? You know, it's that 237 00:12:53,775 --> 00:12:58,535 Speaker 6: sort of thing. So wow, oh mate, hey, good luck 238 00:12:58,535 --> 00:13:02,135 Speaker 6: with that. And yeah, the bench doctor people I've used. 239 00:13:02,135 --> 00:13:05,815 Speaker 7: And I'm sure they'll sort you out all the very best. 240 00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:08,815 Speaker 6: Yeah, all of is Paul oh eight hundred and eighty 241 00:13:08,855 --> 00:13:12,095 Speaker 6: ten eighty is that number to call? Quick text has 242 00:13:12,095 --> 00:13:14,855 Speaker 6: come through my house has not been signed off yet? 243 00:13:14,855 --> 00:13:17,695 Speaker 6: Does it have to have things like painting on inside 244 00:13:17,735 --> 00:13:22,055 Speaker 6: walls in carpet or vinyl down? I probably need a 245 00:13:22,095 --> 00:13:24,135 Speaker 6: little bit more detail on that. I presume that when 246 00:13:24,135 --> 00:13:25,895 Speaker 6: you say not signed off yet is. 247 00:13:27,895 --> 00:13:30,015 Speaker 7: I mean? Look, it's unlikely. 248 00:13:29,535 --> 00:13:33,055 Speaker 6: That it would even qualify for a final inspection without 249 00:13:33,215 --> 00:13:39,215 Speaker 6: floor coverings, particularly if floor coverings are necessary in you know, 250 00:13:39,255 --> 00:13:44,015 Speaker 6: wet areas, and that includes now kitchens. So you know, 251 00:13:44,055 --> 00:13:48,615 Speaker 6: if it was let's say explosed plywood, then I don't 252 00:13:48,615 --> 00:13:51,455 Speaker 6: think you'd even get a final inspection. And certainly without 253 00:13:51,455 --> 00:13:55,335 Speaker 6: a final inspection, you won't get a certificate or code 254 00:13:55,375 --> 00:13:59,415 Speaker 6: compliance certificate a CCC. So I think you probably need 255 00:13:59,455 --> 00:14:00,135 Speaker 6: to get that done. 256 00:14:02,135 --> 00:14:04,335 Speaker 7: Another quick text as well, Morning Peak. We're about to 257 00:14:04,335 --> 00:14:05,575 Speaker 7: put in the secondhand kitchen. 258 00:14:05,615 --> 00:14:07,895 Speaker 6: It has a gas hob. Can we put a nine 259 00:14:07,975 --> 00:14:11,415 Speaker 6: kg bottle inside the cupboards instead of outside? 260 00:14:11,815 --> 00:14:13,055 Speaker 7: I don't believe. 261 00:14:13,175 --> 00:14:17,895 Speaker 6: So again I'm not a gas fitter, which is licensed trade. 262 00:14:18,175 --> 00:14:22,135 Speaker 6: I know it's possible to have a nine kg bottle exterior, 263 00:14:22,735 --> 00:14:25,535 Speaker 6: but I'm pretty sure that having them inside, which I 264 00:14:25,615 --> 00:14:29,095 Speaker 6: know was common working on a kitchen probably twenty years 265 00:14:29,135 --> 00:14:32,735 Speaker 6: ago where that was the case. But I don't think 266 00:14:32,735 --> 00:14:34,935 Speaker 6: that that would be done that would be suitable anymore. 267 00:14:35,255 --> 00:14:39,055 Speaker 6: And also any gasworks should be done by a registered 268 00:14:39,215 --> 00:14:42,175 Speaker 6: gas fitter as well. That's really really important to say, Oh, 269 00:14:42,215 --> 00:14:44,295 Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, the lines are open. The 270 00:14:44,375 --> 00:14:46,855 Speaker 6: number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you'd 271 00:14:46,895 --> 00:14:49,255 Speaker 6: like to text like these other people have done, which 272 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:51,335 Speaker 6: would be great, it is nine two nine two is 273 00:14:51,375 --> 00:14:53,735 Speaker 6: ZBZB from your mobile phone. If you'd like ze me 274 00:14:53,815 --> 00:14:58,375 Speaker 6: an email. It's Pete atnewstalksb dot co dot Nz. Just 275 00:14:58,415 --> 00:15:01,215 Speaker 6: gone twenty one minutes after six. The lines are open. 276 00:15:01,575 --> 00:15:03,535 Speaker 6: We always get busy a little bit later in the show, 277 00:15:03,775 --> 00:15:06,775 Speaker 6: and now is a great time to call eight hundred 278 00:15:06,855 --> 00:15:07,855 Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty. 279 00:15:09,335 --> 00:15:11,775 Speaker 1: Doing other house sorting the garden asked Pete for a 280 00:15:11,855 --> 00:15:15,415 Speaker 1: hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Light Force 281 00:15:15,455 --> 00:15:18,775 Speaker 1: Solar your solar journey in twenty twenty five, call oh, 282 00:15:18,815 --> 00:15:20,095 Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty eight. 283 00:15:20,335 --> 00:15:21,175 Speaker 7: News talks in me. 284 00:15:21,695 --> 00:15:24,375 Speaker 6: Right, let's get amongst that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 285 00:15:24,415 --> 00:15:26,535 Speaker 6: Then number to call Kate A very good morning to you. 286 00:15:27,655 --> 00:15:28,495 Speaker 9: Good morning, Pete. 287 00:15:28,495 --> 00:15:30,895 Speaker 7: Happy to year to you and to you into you. 288 00:15:31,775 --> 00:15:32,215 Speaker 2: Thank you. 289 00:15:32,655 --> 00:15:36,015 Speaker 9: I'm kind of coming to the end stage of my projects, 290 00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:41,135 Speaker 9: which you have given me okay of advice, thank you, 291 00:15:41,495 --> 00:15:45,415 Speaker 9: since since it started in July and even before. Now 292 00:15:46,655 --> 00:15:51,375 Speaker 9: I'm at the point where I need to install a 293 00:15:51,535 --> 00:15:58,975 Speaker 9: fence tank. It's a thin tank for stormwaterer retention, and 294 00:15:59,015 --> 00:16:03,055 Speaker 9: it's going up against the sense. It's three thousand liters yep. 295 00:16:03,175 --> 00:16:07,335 Speaker 9: And beneath the sense there is a hut that they 296 00:16:07,415 --> 00:16:09,655 Speaker 9: made in the ground. So I've sort of exposed some 297 00:16:09,735 --> 00:16:14,775 Speaker 9: concrete of the concrete post, and I'm worried about putting 298 00:16:14,815 --> 00:16:19,615 Speaker 9: some retaining in there. But i can't dig deeply into 299 00:16:19,655 --> 00:16:22,775 Speaker 9: the ground because there's a storm public storm water line 300 00:16:22,855 --> 00:16:25,375 Speaker 9: nearby and I'm not allowed to do that. So but 301 00:16:25,575 --> 00:16:27,735 Speaker 9: looking at options, I don't want to take up a 302 00:16:27,735 --> 00:16:30,975 Speaker 9: lot of depth front to back because there isn't much 303 00:16:31,135 --> 00:16:35,295 Speaker 9: room between this fence in the back of the house. Sure, 304 00:16:36,335 --> 00:16:41,295 Speaker 9: So I've looked at keystone, which will be quite deep. 305 00:16:41,535 --> 00:16:43,935 Speaker 9: I think it's about three hundred it's going to take 306 00:16:44,015 --> 00:16:50,375 Speaker 9: up with the scoria and over. I've seen online concrete 307 00:16:51,015 --> 00:16:54,295 Speaker 9: slabs that you can put in place or Gabian, but 308 00:16:54,335 --> 00:16:57,695 Speaker 9: they have to be quite deep as well. I need 309 00:16:57,695 --> 00:16:59,575 Speaker 9: to take it five hundred in hype. 310 00:16:59,655 --> 00:17:01,775 Speaker 7: Oh, that was going to be my next question. That's 311 00:17:01,815 --> 00:17:06,375 Speaker 7: actually quite a lot, isn't it. So it's a I 312 00:17:06,415 --> 00:17:09,335 Speaker 7: mean three thousand tank. It's probably about two and a 313 00:17:09,335 --> 00:17:11,015 Speaker 7: half meters long, three meters. 314 00:17:10,735 --> 00:17:16,775 Speaker 9: Long twenty nine fifty three meters long front. 315 00:17:16,615 --> 00:17:24,975 Speaker 7: That yeah, right, do do you have it? 316 00:17:25,775 --> 00:17:28,415 Speaker 6: You know, tanks that are designed to sit on the 317 00:17:28,455 --> 00:17:32,255 Speaker 6: ground are not designed to sit in the ground, right, 318 00:17:32,695 --> 00:17:37,455 Speaker 6: that's obvious, but they can take a little bit of bearing. 319 00:17:37,535 --> 00:17:41,695 Speaker 6: I'm just wondering whether it would be helpful if depending 320 00:17:41,695 --> 00:17:45,095 Speaker 6: on which end the outletters, and you could some tanks 321 00:17:45,095 --> 00:17:48,175 Speaker 6: have outlets at both ends or one end, and the 322 00:17:49,015 --> 00:17:50,815 Speaker 6: sides are both the same, so it doesn't matter which 323 00:17:50,815 --> 00:17:54,215 Speaker 6: way around you put them. I'm just one just obviously 324 00:17:54,255 --> 00:17:57,215 Speaker 6: it's a sloping site. And does it slope sort of 325 00:17:57,335 --> 00:18:00,015 Speaker 6: along the length of the tank along that three meter 326 00:18:00,135 --> 00:18:03,935 Speaker 6: length or does it slope back to front of the tank? No, 327 00:18:04,055 --> 00:18:05,295 Speaker 6: along the length along the length? 328 00:18:05,415 --> 00:18:07,455 Speaker 9: Okay, build it. The builder says he's going to put 329 00:18:07,455 --> 00:18:10,615 Speaker 9: a concrete plint, right, and I've got some sort of 330 00:18:10,775 --> 00:18:13,735 Speaker 9: framing that will hold it. 331 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:19,335 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, some tanks require restraint, right, so you need 332 00:18:19,375 --> 00:18:22,255 Speaker 6: to cast in like a timber post, which you can 333 00:18:22,295 --> 00:18:24,775 Speaker 6: then secure. Particularly the tanks that have a quite narrow 334 00:18:24,775 --> 00:18:32,495 Speaker 6: footprint will often require seismic restraint. Look, if you can 335 00:18:32,535 --> 00:18:34,655 Speaker 6: do a concrete pad, that's good. You don't actually have 336 00:18:34,735 --> 00:18:35,895 Speaker 6: to have concrete under them. 337 00:18:36,375 --> 00:18:36,855 Speaker 7: You could. 338 00:18:38,175 --> 00:18:40,775 Speaker 6: The last one that I installed, which was a Bailey 339 00:18:41,175 --> 00:18:45,055 Speaker 6: slim gym tank, we again it was on a sloping site, 340 00:18:45,295 --> 00:18:48,455 Speaker 6: probably a similar slope to yours. I ended up excavating 341 00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,215 Speaker 6: down at one end a little bit like one hundred 342 00:18:50,255 --> 00:18:53,415 Speaker 6: mill below the ground, and I could just batter that away. 343 00:18:53,895 --> 00:18:55,615 Speaker 7: I made up a hoop. 344 00:18:55,815 --> 00:18:59,215 Speaker 6: Essentially out of some might have been two hundred or 345 00:18:59,255 --> 00:19:03,375 Speaker 6: two fifty by fifty retaining timber set that on the ground, 346 00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:06,775 Speaker 6: got some compacted base course, and so one end it 347 00:19:06,935 --> 00:19:09,055 Speaker 6: was slightly in the ground and at the other end 348 00:19:09,135 --> 00:19:11,015 Speaker 6: it was slightly out of the ground, and kind of 349 00:19:11,175 --> 00:19:15,615 Speaker 6: we balanced that up and I just put in compacted 350 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:19,335 Speaker 6: hardfilm and that's been absolutely fine. Saying that that was 351 00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:22,975 Speaker 6: a slightly wider tank, and it also didn't require seismic 352 00:19:23,055 --> 00:19:26,935 Speaker 6: restraint in that particular instance. 353 00:19:28,815 --> 00:19:29,775 Speaker 7: Look, I mean, if. 354 00:19:31,535 --> 00:19:34,255 Speaker 6: I would be really tempted to bury one end slightly 355 00:19:34,455 --> 00:19:37,255 Speaker 6: right to excavate down. So you know, if you lose 356 00:19:37,535 --> 00:19:40,175 Speaker 6: two hundred mil there, then suddenly you're only three hundred 357 00:19:40,215 --> 00:19:42,455 Speaker 6: mils out of the ground at the other end. If 358 00:19:42,455 --> 00:19:45,015 Speaker 6: it's five hundred mili slope, you can kind of lose 359 00:19:45,055 --> 00:19:45,815 Speaker 6: it at either end. 360 00:19:46,015 --> 00:19:49,335 Speaker 9: Oh sorry, Pete, I didn't explain it very much. The 361 00:19:49,455 --> 00:19:52,455 Speaker 9: retaining wall has to be five hundred it's not that 362 00:19:52,615 --> 00:19:53,615 Speaker 9: much of a slope. 363 00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:55,775 Speaker 7: Oh okay, But then. 364 00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:59,095 Speaker 9: Why the drop down is five hundred and within that 365 00:19:59,495 --> 00:20:01,895 Speaker 9: there are some massive. 366 00:20:02,015 --> 00:20:04,255 Speaker 7: Tree roots, right, okay, then. 367 00:20:04,455 --> 00:20:09,575 Speaker 9: Ground away we're looking at the side of a tree route. 368 00:20:09,655 --> 00:20:17,375 Speaker 6: Yes, okay, Well it's a little tricky without actually seeing it. 369 00:20:17,415 --> 00:20:20,455 Speaker 6: But in terms of actually providing a stable base for 370 00:20:20,535 --> 00:20:22,655 Speaker 6: a water tank like this, right, the ones that just 371 00:20:22,695 --> 00:20:26,815 Speaker 6: sit on the ground, you can do concrete if you want, 372 00:20:26,855 --> 00:20:32,295 Speaker 6: but it's not really necessary. Compacted hardfill is fine. A 373 00:20:32,415 --> 00:20:35,455 Speaker 6: small retaining around it is fine, certainly if you're settling 374 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:37,935 Speaker 6: it on areas that you think is loose material. I 375 00:20:38,055 --> 00:20:40,175 Speaker 6: try and remove as much of that as you possibly 376 00:20:40,215 --> 00:20:44,655 Speaker 6: can and replace it with compacted hardfill. And you know, 377 00:20:44,735 --> 00:20:47,815 Speaker 6: even the compacting it's really just if you've got a temper. 378 00:20:47,815 --> 00:20:48,255 Speaker 7: That's fine. 379 00:20:48,295 --> 00:20:50,135 Speaker 6: You don't even have to go out and hire a 380 00:20:50,175 --> 00:20:51,735 Speaker 6: plate compact or anything like that. 381 00:20:53,535 --> 00:20:58,055 Speaker 9: I'm more worried about the wall behind the five hundred retaining. 382 00:20:57,775 --> 00:21:00,575 Speaker 6: Wall right and is it sitting Is that going to 383 00:21:00,575 --> 00:21:05,495 Speaker 6: collapse in? Well, No, I don't think so. And that 384 00:21:05,535 --> 00:21:08,575 Speaker 6: retaining wall behind it. Does that rise above the bottom 385 00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:10,575 Speaker 6: of the tank or does the tank sit on it 386 00:21:10,655 --> 00:21:12,615 Speaker 6: and then the retaining wall is supporting it. 387 00:21:14,415 --> 00:21:17,095 Speaker 9: No, it rises above the bottom of the tank. And 388 00:21:17,135 --> 00:21:18,655 Speaker 9: I'm worried that it's going to cave in on the 389 00:21:18,695 --> 00:21:21,295 Speaker 9: tank and push the tank towards the house. So it's 390 00:21:21,335 --> 00:21:26,015 Speaker 9: five hundred in height at the left land at the 391 00:21:26,055 --> 00:21:28,735 Speaker 9: right hand and it might be four hundred in height. 392 00:21:28,815 --> 00:21:30,415 Speaker 9: It's just dropping a little bit. 393 00:21:30,535 --> 00:21:32,015 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay. Look. 394 00:21:32,015 --> 00:21:34,055 Speaker 6: The other thing that you could do just to offer 395 00:21:34,135 --> 00:21:36,175 Speaker 6: up some support to the retaining wall is given that 396 00:21:36,175 --> 00:21:38,135 Speaker 6: you if you do have to put in some posts, 397 00:21:38,615 --> 00:21:40,935 Speaker 6: you could then dig those in in front of the 398 00:21:40,975 --> 00:21:44,055 Speaker 6: retaining wall and just make sure you go down a 399 00:21:44,095 --> 00:21:47,855 Speaker 6: little bit deeper and perhaps a slightly bigger hole that 400 00:21:47,895 --> 00:21:49,015 Speaker 6: you can fill with concrete. 401 00:21:49,255 --> 00:21:49,815 Speaker 7: Put that in. 402 00:21:49,895 --> 00:21:52,095 Speaker 6: That will offer up some support to the retaining wall. 403 00:21:52,175 --> 00:21:54,855 Speaker 6: It will also give you the support you need for 404 00:21:55,095 --> 00:21:58,495 Speaker 6: that particular type of tank for the seismic restraint. 405 00:21:59,895 --> 00:22:02,895 Speaker 9: Well, I need to put an overcoil and scoria behind that. 406 00:22:03,295 --> 00:22:06,255 Speaker 6: Look for something that's five hundred high, no, I mean 407 00:22:06,735 --> 00:22:09,615 Speaker 6: you know, generally, yes, you need an overcoil and some 408 00:22:09,735 --> 00:22:14,695 Speaker 6: scuory would be good. Putting in some drainage coil. Unless 409 00:22:14,735 --> 00:22:18,055 Speaker 6: it's actually directed somewhere and connected to assessment and connected 410 00:22:18,055 --> 00:22:20,775 Speaker 6: to the storm water, it's probably not a lot of 411 00:22:20,815 --> 00:22:22,695 Speaker 6: point in doing it. I would just put in some 412 00:22:22,735 --> 00:22:25,015 Speaker 6: free drainage material at five hundred high. 413 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:28,175 Speaker 9: I think on the plans it shows connecting to a 414 00:22:28,295 --> 00:22:28,975 Speaker 9: catch pet. 415 00:22:29,455 --> 00:22:29,735 Speaker 7: Great. 416 00:22:29,895 --> 00:22:32,295 Speaker 6: Okay, Well again, if it's on the plans, then please 417 00:22:32,335 --> 00:22:34,415 Speaker 6: do what's on the plan, because just in case someone 418 00:22:34,415 --> 00:22:37,255 Speaker 6: wants to check it. And yeah, I mean look, drainage 419 00:22:37,255 --> 00:22:40,175 Speaker 6: coil behind a wall makes a massive difference to how 420 00:22:40,215 --> 00:22:44,015 Speaker 6: that wall performs over time. And if there is the 421 00:22:44,055 --> 00:22:46,255 Speaker 6: ability to drop it into a catch pit, which is 422 00:22:46,295 --> 00:22:48,695 Speaker 6: the right thing to do to control the sediment, then 423 00:22:49,055 --> 00:22:51,695 Speaker 6: that's great. And if it's on the plans. 424 00:22:51,415 --> 00:22:54,615 Speaker 9: Absolutely, But I'm not allowed to dig down because of 425 00:22:54,615 --> 00:23:00,775 Speaker 9: the storm water. I'm close to a water care stormwater line. 426 00:23:01,615 --> 00:23:05,495 Speaker 7: Right and that's obviously allow me to go public line 427 00:23:06,415 --> 00:23:06,695 Speaker 7: it is. 428 00:23:07,575 --> 00:23:09,855 Speaker 9: They won't allow me to dig within a meter of it, 429 00:23:09,975 --> 00:23:13,175 Speaker 9: I think, so I just got to stay above that's 430 00:23:13,215 --> 00:23:20,495 Speaker 9: the ground, just a little putting in. I was thinking 431 00:23:20,495 --> 00:23:24,415 Speaker 9: for creative ideas of what products could be used that 432 00:23:24,535 --> 00:23:27,735 Speaker 9: won't take up the whole depth of the space. 433 00:23:27,815 --> 00:23:32,215 Speaker 6: Have got again, the picture I have in my mind 434 00:23:32,295 --> 00:23:34,055 Speaker 6: is I'm coming back to what I did on a 435 00:23:34,095 --> 00:23:36,615 Speaker 6: project about a year ago, probably a bit longer now, 436 00:23:36,855 --> 00:23:40,015 Speaker 6: where I just made up like a hoop, excavated the 437 00:23:40,055 --> 00:23:43,255 Speaker 6: ground a bit, removed the loose material, put that down. 438 00:23:43,295 --> 00:23:45,295 Speaker 6: So that was my form work for my base for 439 00:23:45,335 --> 00:23:48,655 Speaker 6: the water tank like the slim Gin one, and then 440 00:23:48,735 --> 00:23:51,295 Speaker 6: filled it with I probably used half a meter or 441 00:23:51,335 --> 00:23:54,015 Speaker 6: so of base course and put the tank on top 442 00:23:54,055 --> 00:23:56,295 Speaker 6: of there, and that was absolutely fine. Then I'm not 443 00:23:56,335 --> 00:23:59,775 Speaker 6: digging anything down and as long as the base is sound, 444 00:24:00,935 --> 00:24:03,375 Speaker 6: and in your case, you do have I keep emphasizing 445 00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:05,375 Speaker 6: the seismic restraint because again, if it's part of the 446 00:24:05,375 --> 00:24:09,495 Speaker 6: manufacturer speci vacation, then it pays to do it, you. 447 00:24:09,455 --> 00:24:12,615 Speaker 7: Know, if you need to do it. 448 00:24:12,655 --> 00:24:15,015 Speaker 6: But then if you need to dig in some posts 449 00:24:15,055 --> 00:24:17,215 Speaker 6: and you're not allowed to dig because of the proximity 450 00:24:17,255 --> 00:24:21,055 Speaker 6: to the water care line. I guess this is the 451 00:24:21,095 --> 00:24:23,335 Speaker 6: only option in terms of location for the tank. 452 00:24:24,815 --> 00:24:30,295 Speaker 9: It is. Yeah, okay, yes, you know what has become 453 00:24:30,455 --> 00:24:34,175 Speaker 9: quite tricky about it is it's a longer fence line 454 00:24:34,255 --> 00:24:37,615 Speaker 9: which was in the wrong place, right. The neighbor built 455 00:24:37,615 --> 00:24:40,495 Speaker 9: it too far on my boundary. So I took a 456 00:24:40,615 --> 00:24:43,215 Speaker 9: notchot and I took a not chot that was large 457 00:24:43,335 --> 00:24:46,255 Speaker 9: enough for the tank to sit in so that it 458 00:24:46,255 --> 00:24:49,775 Speaker 9: would be one straight line and on the existing fence. 459 00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:51,975 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you, not okay. 460 00:24:53,015 --> 00:24:56,055 Speaker 9: So it's going to be all right. But but it's 461 00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:59,935 Speaker 9: just beneath the base of the fence where the posts 462 00:24:59,975 --> 00:25:02,975 Speaker 9: go into the ground. They had to dig down five 463 00:25:03,095 --> 00:25:06,375 Speaker 9: hundred Yes, that's the thing, so that the sense all 464 00:25:06,415 --> 00:25:08,295 Speaker 9: the sense sort of above the ground. It's not eigh 465 00:25:08,335 --> 00:25:08,895 Speaker 9: level or anything. 466 00:25:09,335 --> 00:25:09,815 Speaker 7: I'm with you. 467 00:25:11,215 --> 00:25:13,935 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I've got this cut in the ground and 468 00:25:13,975 --> 00:25:18,375 Speaker 9: I'm worried the fence is going to kay, then something 469 00:25:18,415 --> 00:25:22,775 Speaker 9: needs to be filling in some of the gaps that 470 00:25:23,015 --> 00:25:27,615 Speaker 9: either notch Yes, so I place the fence there. Look, 471 00:25:28,175 --> 00:25:30,615 Speaker 9: it has to be at each en. It's going to 472 00:25:30,695 --> 00:25:32,615 Speaker 9: take up some of the length of the tank, I'm 473 00:25:32,615 --> 00:25:35,415 Speaker 9: going to have to make that much bigger. I didn't realize. 474 00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:37,495 Speaker 9: I didn't realize that to retain. 475 00:25:37,175 --> 00:25:40,495 Speaker 6: It a little bit, I would try and even out 476 00:25:40,535 --> 00:25:42,975 Speaker 6: the retaining by excavating, you know, pushing down in one 477 00:25:43,055 --> 00:25:45,015 Speaker 6: area and then the height of the retaining in the 478 00:25:45,095 --> 00:25:48,655 Speaker 6: other area is diminished. And also I think, you know, 479 00:25:48,735 --> 00:25:52,175 Speaker 6: I mean, I know, in terms of protecting the public asset, 480 00:25:52,255 --> 00:25:54,535 Speaker 6: what water care are concerned about when you build over 481 00:25:55,695 --> 00:25:58,815 Speaker 6: is that you have nothing that bears on the pipe, right, 482 00:26:00,055 --> 00:26:03,175 Speaker 6: But that typically is more of a focus in terms 483 00:26:03,255 --> 00:26:07,575 Speaker 6: of actual buildings. Right, So in the unlikely event that 484 00:26:07,655 --> 00:26:09,775 Speaker 6: someone needs to come and repair that public line in 485 00:26:09,815 --> 00:26:12,015 Speaker 6: the future, they could drain the tank and lift it 486 00:26:12,095 --> 00:26:14,135 Speaker 6: off and do the excavation and get down to it. So, 487 00:26:14,415 --> 00:26:17,135 Speaker 6: you know, it's not quite the same I'm thinking about 488 00:26:17,175 --> 00:26:19,135 Speaker 6: the principle of it. It's not quite the same as 489 00:26:19,335 --> 00:26:23,575 Speaker 6: if you had a house sitting over a public either 490 00:26:23,655 --> 00:26:28,055 Speaker 6: wastewater or storm water line. So I think, well that 491 00:26:28,175 --> 00:26:30,735 Speaker 6: makes sense, Yeah, yeah, you know, it's not quite the 492 00:26:30,815 --> 00:26:34,335 Speaker 6: same duty of care. Let's say, given that it's a 493 00:26:34,415 --> 00:26:37,495 Speaker 6: structure that could be in the event of it needing 494 00:26:37,535 --> 00:26:39,895 Speaker 6: to be moved, could be moved, so again i'd sort 495 00:26:39,935 --> 00:26:41,375 Speaker 6: of dial back the caution on that. 496 00:26:41,855 --> 00:26:45,815 Speaker 9: A little bit, right, Okay, but they still say in 497 00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:48,415 Speaker 9: the plans as they specify keystone. So I'm just looking 498 00:26:48,455 --> 00:26:49,095 Speaker 9: for products. 499 00:26:49,455 --> 00:26:52,215 Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, I've used keystones. And remember there's two. 500 00:26:52,415 --> 00:26:54,695 Speaker 6: There's kind of two different types of keystones as well. 501 00:26:54,735 --> 00:26:56,975 Speaker 6: There's the big heavy one for doing much higher wall, 502 00:26:57,375 --> 00:27:00,015 Speaker 6: and then there's kind of a garden edging one which 503 00:27:00,095 --> 00:27:02,215 Speaker 6: is much smaller, still effective. 504 00:27:01,855 --> 00:27:02,575 Speaker 7: But a lot smaller. 505 00:27:03,855 --> 00:27:05,175 Speaker 9: Take a look how bigger they. 506 00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,175 Speaker 6: I think you're probably about three hundred long and maybe 507 00:27:08,175 --> 00:27:09,135 Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty deep. 508 00:27:10,495 --> 00:27:14,335 Speaker 9: Okay, Look, so I find those in high restorers. 509 00:27:14,415 --> 00:27:14,895 Speaker 7: Absolutely. 510 00:27:16,415 --> 00:27:20,135 Speaker 6: Oh, you take care all this wrapping up the project. 511 00:27:20,335 --> 00:27:23,935 Speaker 6: Take care you were new stalks, B and Michelle A 512 00:27:24,055 --> 00:27:24,615 Speaker 6: very good morning. 513 00:27:25,815 --> 00:27:26,935 Speaker 2: Oh did you peak? 514 00:27:27,055 --> 00:27:27,975 Speaker 5: Happy New Year? 515 00:27:28,375 --> 00:27:29,775 Speaker 7: And to you, my dear, how are you. 516 00:27:32,095 --> 00:27:32,815 Speaker 5: No complaint? 517 00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:35,615 Speaker 7: Box of fluffies in my corner of the world. 518 00:27:35,775 --> 00:27:39,095 Speaker 5: But I've got plenty to say about the regional. 519 00:27:38,815 --> 00:27:44,415 Speaker 2: Council in the HA space, Go right ahead. I am 520 00:27:44,655 --> 00:27:46,095 Speaker 2: visually impaired. 521 00:27:46,455 --> 00:27:51,135 Speaker 5: Ten years living lockdown, all these problems that came kept 522 00:27:51,215 --> 00:27:58,095 Speaker 5: depector uh COVID you name it, Gabriel. I've survived a lot, 523 00:27:58,615 --> 00:28:02,215 Speaker 5: but I can't do the regional council. I live in Headlock. 524 00:28:02,855 --> 00:28:07,015 Speaker 5: We're a village. We have a district council who looks 525 00:28:07,055 --> 00:28:12,415 Speaker 5: after football stormwater. This is this lovely lady, the last 526 00:28:12,495 --> 00:28:15,135 Speaker 5: corner and it just brought it all back. 527 00:28:16,335 --> 00:28:23,215 Speaker 2: He is my beautiful home wreck and ruined. No stormwater runoff. 528 00:28:24,055 --> 00:28:27,855 Speaker 2: My whole place is thinking. It's the blitter. I'm not 529 00:28:28,095 --> 00:28:32,175 Speaker 2: covered by insurance because it's neglect and it's the whole 530 00:28:32,295 --> 00:28:38,615 Speaker 2: wil thing. It just breaks my heart. It's legislation. There's 531 00:28:38,735 --> 00:28:43,815 Speaker 2: my issue. I'm old, I'm blind, I live alone, independent, 532 00:28:44,495 --> 00:28:49,455 Speaker 2: with gorgeous help for mate concern, but adding flex there's 533 00:28:49,535 --> 00:28:53,935 Speaker 2: no vehicle crossing. There is no way for this water 534 00:28:54,095 --> 00:28:57,095 Speaker 2: from maybe road to go to a storm water there 535 00:28:57,215 --> 00:29:00,655 Speaker 2: is none. I live in a sinkhole. Now the house 536 00:29:00,775 --> 00:29:05,215 Speaker 2: is splitting. It's all coming apart and I have nothing 537 00:29:05,935 --> 00:29:10,295 Speaker 2: to picture. My dad passed away. It was my everythink, 538 00:29:10,935 --> 00:29:15,855 Speaker 2: my brains in the world. It gives me sanity and 539 00:29:16,015 --> 00:29:17,895 Speaker 2: there do you go? Where do you go with a 540 00:29:18,015 --> 00:29:21,935 Speaker 2: vesical crossing content to stop? I have a shared driveway 541 00:29:22,055 --> 00:29:25,615 Speaker 2: with three others. I'm the only occupy, our owner and 542 00:29:25,775 --> 00:29:27,535 Speaker 2: it only affects my left. 543 00:29:29,775 --> 00:29:34,535 Speaker 6: There any answers, they're probably well, to be fair, sometimes 544 00:29:34,655 --> 00:29:38,415 Speaker 6: there are answers, but you won't like them, right, give 545 00:29:38,455 --> 00:29:43,295 Speaker 6: it to me, No, no, because because I can't you know, 546 00:29:43,655 --> 00:29:46,335 Speaker 6: I don't know all of the details, and and these 547 00:29:46,415 --> 00:29:50,575 Speaker 6: things do get incredibly complex. But you know, I think 548 00:29:50,615 --> 00:29:52,895 Speaker 6: one of the things that as a country we're probably 549 00:29:52,975 --> 00:29:56,655 Speaker 6: going to have to face is that some areas that 550 00:29:56,775 --> 00:30:00,175 Speaker 6: we thought we could live in, we can't write that 551 00:30:00,455 --> 00:30:00,975 Speaker 6: that was the. 552 00:30:01,215 --> 00:30:03,135 Speaker 2: Change the subdivision. 553 00:30:03,335 --> 00:30:07,735 Speaker 6: You're right, you know, and possibly areas that we've lived 554 00:30:07,775 --> 00:30:10,455 Speaker 6: in for a you know, a longer period of time 555 00:30:10,655 --> 00:30:14,495 Speaker 6: now a subject of flooding and inundation in ways that 556 00:30:15,255 --> 00:30:19,135 Speaker 6: the only answer is pretty much retreats. 557 00:30:18,255 --> 00:30:21,855 Speaker 2: Me completely, because there's no run off, no still order, 558 00:30:22,055 --> 00:30:23,095 Speaker 2: it's no drainage. 559 00:30:23,255 --> 00:30:26,935 Speaker 6: At that point, you would hope that the state, whether 560 00:30:27,055 --> 00:30:31,255 Speaker 6: that's regional or national, would would be able to say 561 00:30:31,295 --> 00:30:34,855 Speaker 6: to people, hey, look, you know, we we gave you 562 00:30:34,935 --> 00:30:38,055 Speaker 6: a consent to build there thirty forty fifty years ago, but. 563 00:30:38,135 --> 00:30:40,295 Speaker 2: It's it's not nineteen sixty. 564 00:30:40,535 --> 00:30:43,375 Speaker 6: It's no good anymore, and we're going to help you 565 00:30:43,535 --> 00:30:44,055 Speaker 6: to move on. 566 00:30:46,335 --> 00:30:49,055 Speaker 2: You know that it's just a repair drob that should 567 00:30:49,095 --> 00:30:49,415 Speaker 2: have been. 568 00:30:51,255 --> 00:30:54,775 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think some councils are facing the fact 569 00:30:54,855 --> 00:30:58,775 Speaker 6: that they what they're trying to repair. The repair is 570 00:30:58,855 --> 00:31:02,935 Speaker 6: not going to work right that you know, I'm aware of. 571 00:31:03,455 --> 00:31:06,855 Speaker 6: I went to a house that was flooded while ago, 572 00:31:07,015 --> 00:31:10,535 Speaker 6: and I'm now aware that that area they've simply bought 573 00:31:10,655 --> 00:31:14,255 Speaker 6: all of the owners out and they've said it's in practice, 574 00:31:14,375 --> 00:31:16,655 Speaker 6: nothing we can do is going to stop the flooding 575 00:31:16,775 --> 00:31:18,535 Speaker 6: in the future, So we're just going to have to 576 00:31:18,575 --> 00:31:21,495 Speaker 6: buy you out now. Obviously counsels don't really want to 577 00:31:21,535 --> 00:31:25,215 Speaker 6: be in that position because that's a really expensive activity 578 00:31:26,095 --> 00:31:29,775 Speaker 6: and so on, but it is going to be a 579 00:31:29,815 --> 00:31:32,015 Speaker 6: reality that we're going to have to accept, I think, 580 00:31:33,215 --> 00:31:35,375 Speaker 6: and maybe you fall into that category. 581 00:31:35,855 --> 00:31:37,175 Speaker 7: I just wonder if not. 582 00:31:37,335 --> 00:31:41,255 Speaker 5: Really neglect any right, this is why there's no insurance 583 00:31:41,415 --> 00:31:44,815 Speaker 5: because when I actually got a lawyer onto the case 584 00:31:45,015 --> 00:31:47,815 Speaker 5: because she said this is wrong, they've just not finished 585 00:31:47,855 --> 00:31:51,175 Speaker 5: the job because they're not on the same page. Why 586 00:31:51,455 --> 00:31:55,255 Speaker 5: are they a regional look after the roading and the 587 00:31:55,415 --> 00:31:59,615 Speaker 5: district look after the footpath? They did a new footpath. 588 00:31:59,815 --> 00:32:02,055 Speaker 2: Used half of my property as. 589 00:32:04,575 --> 00:32:08,735 Speaker 5: Except to the vehicle crossing on the main road, but 590 00:32:08,895 --> 00:32:12,095 Speaker 5: they didn't put a storm water. So I am the 591 00:32:12,215 --> 00:32:15,975 Speaker 5: one who wears all the runoff from Napier Road. It's 592 00:32:16,095 --> 00:32:17,215 Speaker 5: poisoned my land. 593 00:32:17,775 --> 00:32:20,095 Speaker 6: It's poisoned that sort of thing. 594 00:32:20,255 --> 00:32:20,455 Speaker 2: There. 595 00:32:20,935 --> 00:32:23,655 Speaker 6: You know, there is provision within I think it's the 596 00:32:23,695 --> 00:32:26,495 Speaker 6: Property Act in particular that talks about. 597 00:32:28,095 --> 00:32:30,615 Speaker 7: Right about it. Okay. 598 00:32:30,895 --> 00:32:35,415 Speaker 6: So I'm just wondering whether for you, Michelle, given your circumstances, 599 00:32:36,015 --> 00:32:41,175 Speaker 6: is that maybe maybe through age concern, or through great 600 00:32:41,335 --> 00:32:44,255 Speaker 6: power or through advice at all. 601 00:32:44,455 --> 00:32:46,495 Speaker 8: Okay, you're the next step, darling. 602 00:32:48,735 --> 00:32:52,295 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up. Squeaking will get the results. 603 00:32:54,415 --> 00:33:00,415 Speaker 6: And sometimes I had this conversation with him, with your knowledge, 604 00:33:00,495 --> 00:33:02,335 Speaker 6: who had an idea and he's like, tell me if 605 00:33:02,375 --> 00:33:06,655 Speaker 6: it's a good idea or not. Look, I My sense 606 00:33:06,935 --> 00:33:10,615 Speaker 6: is for in your circumstances, you kind of want an advocate, 607 00:33:10,775 --> 00:33:14,215 Speaker 6: right which might be a retired lawyer. It might be 608 00:33:14,295 --> 00:33:16,735 Speaker 6: someone who's involved in community work, who can sort of 609 00:33:16,935 --> 00:33:20,455 Speaker 6: assess all of the documentation, all of the. 610 00:33:21,335 --> 00:33:24,655 Speaker 2: From the district council. He tried to advocate on my behalfer. 611 00:33:24,855 --> 00:33:25,975 Speaker 7: He didn't get any want. 612 00:33:25,815 --> 00:33:28,655 Speaker 2: To see the exit. He did as much as he 613 00:33:29,015 --> 00:33:32,935 Speaker 2: was in his power. It's legislation on the regional council 614 00:33:33,015 --> 00:33:33,495 Speaker 2: and a lot. 615 00:33:33,455 --> 00:33:37,095 Speaker 7: Of it, either local councilor or member of parliament. 616 00:33:38,335 --> 00:33:39,015 Speaker 2: Oh, I've been there. 617 00:33:39,295 --> 00:33:40,015 Speaker 5: They're beautiful. 618 00:33:40,335 --> 00:33:42,255 Speaker 7: So still don't get anywhere. 619 00:33:42,335 --> 00:33:45,775 Speaker 2: Feeling for the situation, but can't fix it themselves. It's 620 00:33:45,895 --> 00:33:49,215 Speaker 2: up to legislation. And I couldn't get a constant to 621 00:33:49,335 --> 00:33:55,175 Speaker 2: get another person to do a vehicle exit because it's 622 00:33:55,695 --> 00:33:59,575 Speaker 2: ENCROATIREUS on regional and they wouldn't pay. And then we 623 00:33:59,655 --> 00:34:02,535 Speaker 2: had Cabrielle and now and then my son died and 624 00:34:02,655 --> 00:34:06,055 Speaker 2: he was my advocate, and now I'm just lost. Yeah, 625 00:34:06,375 --> 00:34:10,295 Speaker 2: with weird age concern. They are my best freens, the 626 00:34:10,415 --> 00:34:14,175 Speaker 2: beautiful people and what they do, so they provide that 627 00:34:14,295 --> 00:34:18,335 Speaker 2: I don't have to leave home. There's no transport, there's 628 00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:22,295 Speaker 2: no buzzers in my side of the road to accommodate transport. 629 00:34:22,735 --> 00:34:26,135 Speaker 2: I won't use the free taxi. It's a burden on 630 00:34:26,255 --> 00:34:29,015 Speaker 2: some tax player, but I don't need it. 631 00:34:28,975 --> 00:34:30,935 Speaker 6: Because it's all Are you in a position where you 632 00:34:30,975 --> 00:34:31,575 Speaker 6: could sell. 633 00:34:31,455 --> 00:34:31,895 Speaker 7: And move on. 634 00:34:33,735 --> 00:34:37,895 Speaker 2: I'm still paying a mortgage. It's not good because it's 635 00:34:37,975 --> 00:34:42,255 Speaker 2: just moosing value. And I'm on a bench only night 636 00:34:42,335 --> 00:34:48,335 Speaker 2: and day all my life to get every home that's 637 00:34:48,535 --> 00:34:52,575 Speaker 2: the same thing. She said, get ready. Our village is 638 00:34:54,055 --> 00:34:58,375 Speaker 2: more understanding because in township, you just come the next 639 00:34:58,455 --> 00:35:03,295 Speaker 2: door neighbor. The village is amazing. I live independent, alone, 640 00:35:03,855 --> 00:35:08,695 Speaker 2: and I I'm so blessed with the kindness of others. 641 00:35:09,175 --> 00:35:12,615 Speaker 2: But it doesn't fix legislation and can't fix it. 642 00:35:13,415 --> 00:35:17,335 Speaker 6: No, And that's where I wonder whether, in some sense, Michelle, 643 00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:20,975 Speaker 6: that the problem is. I mean, we like to think 644 00:35:21,015 --> 00:35:23,695 Speaker 6: of all problems are being solvable, but possibly they're not. 645 00:35:24,215 --> 00:35:27,295 Speaker 6: And I don't mean that in a dismissive sense. I 646 00:35:27,815 --> 00:35:32,175 Speaker 6: just know sometimes it feels I do feel that an advocate. 647 00:35:32,615 --> 00:35:36,695 Speaker 6: You mentioned you lost your son. My condolence is for that. 648 00:35:37,215 --> 00:35:39,295 Speaker 6: I'm just I tell you, could you just stay on 649 00:35:39,335 --> 00:35:41,695 Speaker 6: the line, keep you and Mark will get your number 650 00:35:41,735 --> 00:35:44,255 Speaker 6: and I'll put my thinking cap on and we'll see 651 00:35:44,255 --> 00:35:47,975 Speaker 6: what we can do. Maybe the one with the runoff 652 00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:50,095 Speaker 6: needs to go to the Minister of Building. Probably not 653 00:35:50,175 --> 00:35:52,415 Speaker 6: really their thing. I think it's that local advocate thing, 654 00:35:52,935 --> 00:35:55,175 Speaker 6: you know, maybe a retired lawyer looking for a bit 655 00:35:55,215 --> 00:35:56,055 Speaker 6: of a push. 656 00:35:56,255 --> 00:35:57,095 Speaker 7: We'll be back in a moment. 657 00:35:58,575 --> 00:36:01,575 Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering 658 00:36:01,655 --> 00:36:02,255 Speaker 1: how to fix. 659 00:36:02,135 --> 00:36:02,935 Speaker 2: That hole in the wall. 660 00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:05,575 Speaker 1: Give Peter wolf Cabin call on Oh eight hundred and 661 00:36:05,655 --> 00:36:09,055 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty the resident builder with light Force Solar. 662 00:36:09,215 --> 00:36:12,495 Speaker 1: Where your twenty twenty five solar purchase earns you airports 663 00:36:12,535 --> 00:36:13,855 Speaker 1: dollars used talks B. 664 00:36:15,255 --> 00:36:18,255 Speaker 6: Some texts coming in with regard to the conversation with Michelle. 665 00:36:18,295 --> 00:36:19,575 Speaker 6: We'll see what we can do there. A couple of 666 00:36:19,695 --> 00:36:22,415 Speaker 6: useful ones, couple of to be fair not so useful ones. 667 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,535 Speaker 6: We'll we'll talk about that a little bit later on 668 00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:26,615 Speaker 6: the show. If you've got a question of a building nature, 669 00:36:26,695 --> 00:36:28,615 Speaker 6: call us now oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 670 00:36:29,535 --> 00:36:33,455 Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor, Get the right advice from 671 00:36:33,535 --> 00:36:37,615 Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare the resident builder with Lightforcesolar dot co dot 672 00:36:37,735 --> 00:36:40,495 Speaker 1: nzere make twenty twenty five the year you switch to 673 00:36:40,695 --> 00:36:42,055 Speaker 1: solar News Talks B. 674 00:36:42,775 --> 00:36:45,215 Speaker 6: Your news talk said B, Oh eight hundred eighty ten 675 00:36:45,255 --> 00:36:49,815 Speaker 6: eighty is the number? Hello Janet, Yes hi, My. 676 00:36:51,175 --> 00:36:56,735 Speaker 10: Question is rather trivial compared to the last role. I 677 00:36:57,055 --> 00:37:02,175 Speaker 10: have a shower enclosure which I want to revamp. It's 678 00:37:02,375 --> 00:37:06,215 Speaker 10: very old. It's been in the in the downstairs here 679 00:37:06,495 --> 00:37:10,615 Speaker 10: of our property, so it's got a concrete floor and 680 00:37:10,775 --> 00:37:14,855 Speaker 10: the shower there has and I don't know what you 681 00:37:14,975 --> 00:37:17,055 Speaker 10: call it, but it's an old fashioned trap. It's not 682 00:37:17,175 --> 00:37:19,935 Speaker 10: an easy waste one, so you have to step step 683 00:37:20,095 --> 00:37:22,935 Speaker 10: up into it. Yes, I want to do a complete 684 00:37:23,015 --> 00:37:27,335 Speaker 10: revamp of a whole lot. I was wondering, can I 685 00:37:27,855 --> 00:37:31,535 Speaker 10: lower that down and do an easy trap trap installation, 686 00:37:32,215 --> 00:37:35,695 Speaker 10: but it would have to drain from it has got 687 00:37:35,735 --> 00:37:38,615 Speaker 10: about one point five meters to the outside wall to 688 00:37:38,655 --> 00:37:41,655 Speaker 10: where the trap is, So I don't know what sort 689 00:37:41,695 --> 00:37:46,335 Speaker 10: of height I'm going to get in the advantage changing 690 00:37:46,455 --> 00:37:48,615 Speaker 10: to an easy trap, or still better to stay with 691 00:37:48,695 --> 00:37:49,255 Speaker 10: the old one. 692 00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:51,455 Speaker 6: So when you say the old one, so what you 693 00:37:51,535 --> 00:37:53,775 Speaker 6: think is underneath the shower tray is a sort of 694 00:37:53,855 --> 00:37:56,015 Speaker 6: conventional P or an S trap, right, So. 695 00:37:56,055 --> 00:37:59,295 Speaker 10: It comes down like you have under a hand basin. 696 00:37:59,495 --> 00:38:02,135 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So I mean typically that's what I was 697 00:38:02,295 --> 00:38:03,295 Speaker 6: looking at one the other day. 698 00:38:04,215 --> 00:38:05,495 Speaker 7: Maybe a two. 699 00:38:05,455 --> 00:38:09,295 Speaker 6: Hundred mil turn and thirty mil from let's say the 700 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:13,895 Speaker 6: outlet to the bottom of the bend and then back 701 00:38:13,975 --> 00:38:17,735 Speaker 6: up again, and an easy waste are often about eighty 702 00:38:17,855 --> 00:38:20,455 Speaker 6: to ninety. So I think there's an easy one hundred, 703 00:38:20,615 --> 00:38:22,855 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty mil that you might get out 704 00:38:22,855 --> 00:38:27,775 Speaker 6: of it by changing that. Obviously it will require removing 705 00:38:27,815 --> 00:38:31,375 Speaker 6: the lining, pulling out the shower tray, reframing that area, 706 00:38:31,615 --> 00:38:35,415 Speaker 6: dropping it down lower. But yeah, I mean yes, there 707 00:38:35,495 --> 00:38:37,895 Speaker 6: are obvious savings by using an easy trap. 708 00:38:38,215 --> 00:38:39,095 Speaker 7: Which is a lot sharp. 709 00:38:40,255 --> 00:38:40,455 Speaker 1: Yeah. 710 00:38:40,575 --> 00:38:43,935 Speaker 10: Yeah, no, Now, so that brings me to my next question. 711 00:38:45,855 --> 00:38:50,255 Speaker 10: All of the sort of custom built shower trays now 712 00:38:50,535 --> 00:38:53,775 Speaker 10: because this has got an old stone still, Yeah, all 713 00:38:53,855 --> 00:38:58,015 Speaker 10: of the custom built ones now there's sort of for 714 00:38:58,615 --> 00:39:03,775 Speaker 10: sort of more level thraw a level plumbing underneath. Of course, 715 00:39:03,815 --> 00:39:06,455 Speaker 10: it's a concrete saw, so we can't do that. It's 716 00:39:06,495 --> 00:39:11,775 Speaker 10: got to go out the wall. Do you know how 717 00:39:12,615 --> 00:39:14,415 Speaker 10: do you need to build a frame for those? 718 00:39:14,895 --> 00:39:17,695 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know what you're saying, Yes you would, So 719 00:39:17,775 --> 00:39:20,095 Speaker 6: it's essentially, you know, you know where your pipe work's 720 00:39:20,095 --> 00:39:22,495 Speaker 6: got to go, so you can't frame up there, but 721 00:39:22,615 --> 00:39:26,975 Speaker 6: you can frame around it, lay in, use tennalized timber, 722 00:39:27,215 --> 00:39:31,335 Speaker 6: and put some tannalized ply down. Create a platform for 723 00:39:31,855 --> 00:39:35,095 Speaker 6: your now lower shower tray to sit on. And as 724 00:39:35,175 --> 00:39:37,815 Speaker 6: long as the shower tray is fully supported just as 725 00:39:37,855 --> 00:39:39,935 Speaker 6: if it was sitting on the ground, then that'll. 726 00:39:39,695 --> 00:39:44,015 Speaker 10: Be fine, right, fine, Okay, then how do you finish 727 00:39:44,095 --> 00:39:47,815 Speaker 10: off sort of the front face of it, because you're 728 00:39:47,815 --> 00:39:48,935 Speaker 10: still going to have to step up there. 729 00:39:49,015 --> 00:39:50,015 Speaker 7: Yes, that's right, you will. 730 00:39:50,935 --> 00:39:51,095 Speaker 5: Look. 731 00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:54,375 Speaker 6: The most simple way would probably be tiles or something similar. 732 00:39:55,055 --> 00:39:56,855 Speaker 6: If you were using a vinyl on the floor, you 733 00:39:56,895 --> 00:40:01,415 Speaker 6: could bring the vinyl up. But what's what's on the 734 00:40:01,695 --> 00:40:03,535 Speaker 6: concrete floor of the bathroom anyway? 735 00:40:05,455 --> 00:40:08,015 Speaker 10: It's four in which is all getting ripped up, So 736 00:40:08,295 --> 00:40:11,375 Speaker 10: we're put to be doing a complete revamp of that downstairs. 737 00:40:11,935 --> 00:40:14,855 Speaker 6: Would you put vinyl as in sheet vinyl down again? 738 00:40:15,855 --> 00:40:16,735 Speaker 7: Yes? Okay? 739 00:40:16,895 --> 00:40:19,575 Speaker 6: Then I would just form an upstand and have the 740 00:40:19,735 --> 00:40:22,535 Speaker 6: vinyl come up. And ideally, if when you're framing the 741 00:40:22,615 --> 00:40:25,495 Speaker 6: platform for the shower tray, you set it back a 742 00:40:25,575 --> 00:40:29,015 Speaker 6: couple of millimeters so that the vinyl can actually tuck 743 00:40:29,135 --> 00:40:33,455 Speaker 6: up underneath the lip of the shower tray, right okay, 744 00:40:33,775 --> 00:40:35,735 Speaker 6: Or you could have a little step flashing in there 745 00:40:35,775 --> 00:40:38,015 Speaker 6: as another option. But you just want to make sure 746 00:40:38,055 --> 00:40:40,615 Speaker 6: that if you're going to bring the vinyl up that upstand, 747 00:40:41,215 --> 00:40:45,175 Speaker 6: that you don't provide access for water to penetrate, you know, 748 00:40:45,775 --> 00:40:48,975 Speaker 6: from the top, right, so just condensation and overflow from 749 00:40:49,015 --> 00:40:51,695 Speaker 6: the shower, So as long as it tucks either tucks 750 00:40:51,775 --> 00:40:54,495 Speaker 6: underneath the shower tray or you have a little step 751 00:40:54,575 --> 00:40:56,615 Speaker 6: flashing there that will make it waterproof. 752 00:40:57,855 --> 00:41:01,895 Speaker 10: Well okay, yep, no, no, that's fine. And you don't 753 00:41:02,415 --> 00:41:05,655 Speaker 10: like with the old fashion traps you needed to have 754 00:41:05,775 --> 00:41:07,655 Speaker 10: access to these. 755 00:41:07,735 --> 00:41:10,175 Speaker 6: You can clean from the top, you can clean from 756 00:41:10,175 --> 00:41:10,735 Speaker 6: the trot. 757 00:41:12,935 --> 00:41:13,695 Speaker 2: A way to go. 758 00:41:14,815 --> 00:41:17,015 Speaker 6: It'll make a big difference to that that step up, 759 00:41:17,055 --> 00:41:19,655 Speaker 6: because that's always a bit nervous, isn't it nerve racking? 760 00:41:19,855 --> 00:41:21,815 Speaker 6: I think it's more nerve racking stepping out of the 761 00:41:21,895 --> 00:41:23,815 Speaker 6: shower and when you're slightly unbalanced. 762 00:41:24,535 --> 00:41:26,175 Speaker 7: We'll be back straight after news, sport and. 763 00:41:26,175 --> 00:41:28,495 Speaker 1: Weather, Top of the Hour at seven for more from 764 00:41:28,535 --> 00:41:31,615 Speaker 1: The Residence Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. 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