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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on either duplicy Ellen Drey with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else you saw, Siddy.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, it is six after four on your Monday.

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company. We'll go across the Tasman

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Speaker 2: for the latest on this terror attack past two police

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, about the threat level here at home?

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Speaker 2: How to make your kids meal for two bucks? James

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Speaker 2: Cameron wants more tax rebates, Thank you very much. What

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Speaker 2: are the big lego blocks being installed at Wellington Airports?

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Speaker 2: We've got Shane Soley on the markets and a triple

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Speaker 2: whammy with Nichola Willis this evening after six on the

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Speaker 2: RB and Z Heyfu and GDP all out.

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Speaker 3: This week, Bryan Bridge, This terror.

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Speaker 2: Attack in Sydney is what everyone else says and is saying.

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Speaker 2: It is absolutely horrific anti Semitic terrorism. That's what it is. Sadly,

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Speaker 2: this type of attack is happening and will keep happening

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Speaker 2: more frequently, and this is what our intelligence agencies tell us.

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Speaker 2: The worst part about it is that it seems almost

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Speaker 2: impossible to Australia has what the world considers the gold

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Speaker 2: standard gun control. After the Port Arthur massacre, you'll remember it,

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Speaker 2: they tightened up the rules, but it still now has

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Speaker 2: more guns than it did back then in the nineties,

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Speaker 2: both in number and per capita. Guns, of course, don't

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Speaker 2: cause terror attacks. For that, you'll need radical fanatics with

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Speaker 2: It's a great place, unfortunately, to go and meet like

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Speaker 2: and prevent Bondai Beach type events. In this case, RCO,

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Speaker 2: their security intelligence agency, knew about the sun with the

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Speaker 2: gun in Sydney as early as six years ago. There

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Speaker 2: were links to ISIS. For goodness sakes, didn't stop them,

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Speaker 2: year beforehand online. He wasn't stopped either. Some said the

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Speaker 2: groceries in New Lynn, remember that he was actually being

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Speaker 2: he still managed to stab eight innocent people in the

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Speaker 2: shopping are some argue migration is the problem. Oh, they say, well, Jews,

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Speaker 2: the Jewish community, the Muslims, they've been fighting for centuries

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Speaker 2: and that's where the problem lies. Except mass shootings are

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Speaker 2: perpetrated by all sorts of people for all sorts of

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Speaker 2: different reasons. You've got left wing extremism, look at what

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Speaker 2: they're saying about the guy and Charlie Kirk, the insurance

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Speaker 2: assassin in America, the attempt on Trump. Then you've got

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Speaker 2: your far right extremists. You've got radical Islamic terrorists. And

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Speaker 2: then they're just completely crazy people who seem to have

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Speaker 2: no motive. They just want to either be famous or

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Speaker 2: kill people for a body count, like life is some

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Speaker 2: sort of video game. The sad, disturbing, uncomfortable part heart

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Speaker 2: of this attack is that I think everybody knows it

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Speaker 2: won't be the last one, and there is very little,

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Speaker 2: it seems, that we can actually do to stop them.

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Speaker 2: You're on news talks EB. It's nine minutes after four

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Speaker 2: Police have been patrolling outside Jewish synagogues and events here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, after what's happened in Sydney. Same thing

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Speaker 2: It is, of course the start of Honiker. Deborah Hart

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Speaker 2: and joins me now, Deborah, good afternoon, Cia. How are

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Speaker 2: you doing. How is the Jewish community in New Zealand

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Speaker 4: Well, we are reeling. Our hearts are truly broken. We

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Speaker 4: hold those directly affected in our hearts. But we know

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Speaker 4: the first night of Hunakah, and Honaker is the festival

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Speaker 4: that has carried us through centuries of persecution. It's the

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Speaker 4: ancient promise that light and jaws even when we're met

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Speaker 4: with brutal violence. So it's ironic that this has come

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Speaker 2: It's awful for everyone there, isn't it? And for you here?

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Speaker 2: So what are people? How do you normally celebrate Hanneka

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Speaker 4: Well, most Jewish people will be celebrating the eight days

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Speaker 4: But you know, we stopped doing that because it just

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Speaker 2: Deborah, is are things getting how much? I mean, we

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Speaker 2: you know, there's always been this awful baseline anti Semitic

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Speaker 4: Well, the first thing to say is it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: We get threats in broad daylight. We have the government

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Speaker 4: Globalizing the into Farder is what we have seen in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they people like Chloe actually understand what

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Speaker 4: I would hope not, but you know, these are intelligent

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Speaker 4: And am I doing something that endangers other people? And

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Speaker 4: you know these kinds of messages are heard by some

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Speaker 2: Debra, I really appreciate you talking to me today. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for that and all the best for the rest

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Speaker 2: of your huneker. That is Debrah Hart, Holocaust Center, Chare

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Speaker 2: It is seventeen minutes after four. We'll speak to a

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Speaker 2: security expert out of Australia after five this evening on

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Speaker 2: the terror attack in Sydney. We just had Debra Hart

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Speaker 2: on the shows from the Holocaust Center and she called out,

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Speaker 2: singled out Chloe Swarbrick, the co leader of the Greens,

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Speaker 2: for her rhetoric over the past few months about Jewish

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Speaker 2: she needs to take a look at herself. Basically, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Chloe's silence on what's happening in Australia is deafening. This

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Speaker 2: Et cetera. Ryan. This is from Lance. Lance's Ryan. Anti

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Speaker 2: Semitism is completely wrong. But for her to say what

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Speaker 2: In one sided Lance, I think what Deborah was trying

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Speaker 2: to say is it doesn't matter what's happening in a

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Speaker 2: Responsibly Piney's with us this afternoon. Hey Poney, how are you?

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Speaker 5: Ryan?

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Speaker 2: Hi mate, I'm good. Thanks. So Tom Blundle returns for

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Speaker 2: the black Caps. Is this the right call you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Week is the right call. Not everybody agrees with it, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: but that's the beauty of it all. Yeah, no, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Hey McCullum very quickly? Is he could? He potentially lose

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Speaker 2: tits up over in Australia because this contract apparently is

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Speaker 6: men to lead England for they could. I mean, contracts

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Speaker 6: are always you can always extricate yourself from them, card

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Speaker 2: They all right, I appreciate that. Piney, Thank you. Jason

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Speaker 2: you some aret from a young woman who there was

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Speaker 2: being targeted or involved in a mass shooting, who've actually

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Speaker 2: You know that doesn't make sense. So now the Cabinet

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Speaker 5: The Howard government skun laws have made an enormous difference

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs Empy Drive in Australia.

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Speaker 2: One of the shooters was the registered owner of six

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Speaker 2: Finally, this afternoon, what's he going to do? What's he

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Ryan, good afternoon to you this. I'm just heartbroken.

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Speaker 10: You know, you'd wonder how anyone in Australia would need

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Speaker 2: Now you've got your opposition leader is you know, she's

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Speaker 10: if not one of the most iconic beaches in the world,

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Speaker 10: that this could happen. Bryan, it is just heartbreaking, is

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Speaker 10: absolutely heartbreaking, a terrible day to this country.

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Speaker 2: Olie, really appreciate you being with us this afternoon seventeen

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Speaker 2: away from five Olipeds and our Australia correspondent. Now go

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Speaker 2: to Wellington Airport and have a look at what's going

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Speaker 2: on down there. You'll see some massive blocks being put

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Speaker 2: up on either side of the airport. They apparently look

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Speaker 2: a little bit like lego blocks. What is going on

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Speaker 2: in Wellington? Well I can tell you Wellington Airport spreading

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Speaker 2: its wings because it's got a short runway and they've

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Speaker 2: always hated that and they wanted to extend it. Remember

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Speaker 2: they wanted to go into the cook straight for like

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty meters. They needed to add to

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Speaker 2: it so they could have the big jets landing. Well

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Speaker 2: that obviously didn't go anywhere because Wellington doesn't do anything

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Speaker 2: or make decisions. Well, hopefully Andrew Little will start that.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, what they have done I think is genius

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Speaker 2: and why did they not do this from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So they're putting these big blocks in manufactured in the US,

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Speaker 2: in pits, and they'll be placed like giant like giant

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Speaker 2: lego blocks, energy absorbing blocks that crush under the weight

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Speaker 2: of an aircraft's wheels if it overruns the runway, bringing

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Speaker 2: it to a safe stop. So you don't need had

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Speaker 2: a big long runway. You can just have these sort

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Speaker 2: of gravel lego pits at each end. And Bob's your uncle.

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Speaker 2: You've added well, you have added the equivalent of three

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty meters of track that you didn't have before.

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Speaker 2: So the length landing length of the runway extended by

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty meters and twenty six meters for takeoff.

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Speaker 2: This will allow the latest model long haul jets, including

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Speaker 2: the Bowing Triple seven X, to fly direct to Wellington

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Speaker 2: with a full load. Great work around sixteen to five

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Speaker 2: news Talks ad B politics.

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Speaker 1: Was centric Crey to check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen away from five barries over here with politics Barry

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, Good afternoon. Right, I'm terrible about what's happening

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Speaker 2: in Sydney obviously, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's shocking and you know we've all been through

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Speaker 11: that in this country. When you think back to the

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Speaker 11: Moss killings when fifty one people were killed, I remember

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Speaker 11: feeling honestly speechless. In your Australian correspondent said that he

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Speaker 11: felt really emotional talking about it. Is just awful that

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Speaker 11: you something like this can happen in a country like

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Speaker 11: Australia and like New Zealand. And of course the perpetrator

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Speaker 11: of the New Zealand Moss shooting wasn't Australian, Brenton Tarrant.

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Speaker 11: But that you can't make. You can't play politics with

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Speaker 11: this game. Even though Chloe Swarbrick has been singled out

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Speaker 11: by a number of people because of her statements, but

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Speaker 11: look like us all. It was the shaken Prime Minister

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Speaker 11: who spoke to journalists this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Terrorism and hate have no place in our societies. Violence

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Speaker 12: of any kind is unacceptable, whether it is targeted at

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Speaker 12: people of Jewish or any other faith. We all need

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Speaker 12: to call out in tolerance when we see it. There

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Speaker 12: is room in this world for everyone to live side

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Speaker 12: by side at peace. At the stage, we have no

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Speaker 12: indication that any New Zealanders have been injured in the attack.

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Speaker 12: Let's all continue to look after each other, especially our

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Speaker 12: Australian and our Jewish friends. At this time, you're shocked

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Speaker 12: and appalled to think that something like that could happen

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Speaker 12: in a place where so much fun typically takes place.

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Speaker 12: And you have to be honest, as I watched those

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Speaker 12: images late last night, you know, into the early hours

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Speaker 12: of this morning, you know it's really sickening, and you

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Speaker 12: know your thoughts immediately go to the families of loved

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Speaker 12: ones who lost someone yesterday. You think about the people

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Speaker 12: that are fighting for their lives in hospital right now.

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Speaker 12: There are incredible stories again first responders, but also incredible

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Speaker 12: stories of just people in the local community coming down

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Speaker 12: onto the beach and helping where they could and can.

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Speaker 11: And that amazing man that came to n disarmed.

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Speaker 2: One of the guns, the fruit shop owner. I'm incredible.

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Speaker 11: I can't even envisage that a father and son would

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Speaker 11: be resigned. How could you go.

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Speaker 2: Because the first thing, no exactly, the first thing you

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Speaker 2: think is, oh, their parents will be absolutely ashamed, And

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Speaker 2: then you realize the dead's in honors. Hey bears have

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Speaker 2: got behind through tomorrow. The supers we pushed out again.

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Speaker 11: Yes it will be. That'll be the third time it's

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Speaker 11: been pushed out. But no doubt Nichola will Us will

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Speaker 11: have a good argument for it. Less aptually does have

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Speaker 11: a good argument for it because.

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Speaker 2: The debate is it happening?

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Speaker 11: What has happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm mary on board now.

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Speaker 11: I know I've texted the Taxpayers Union today, well who's moderating?

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Speaker 11: Where is it at?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 2: And I've heard anything now, But look, I.

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Speaker 11: Think I think it will be on Thursday, because that's

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Speaker 11: certainly the last word from Nikola Willis on it. But

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Speaker 11: that debate. Luxon says he understands why Nikola Willis wants

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Speaker 11: to put up the government's case against former National Finance

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Speaker 11: Minister Ruth Richardson.

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Speaker 12: I think it is important that she feels she can

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Speaker 12: defend the record of this government and the approach of

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Speaker 12: this government and what we're doing. I think you would

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Speaker 12: have seen last week, you know, we had major RMA reform.

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Speaker 12: I think that was well understood, that was well supported

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Speaker 12: across the country. This week we've got Haifu tomorrow on Thursday,

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Speaker 12: we'll have the GDP growth numbers.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 12: I think what's important is that for most of these islanders,

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Speaker 12: they really focused on Christmas. They focus on Christmas shopping,

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Speaker 12: and they need to know that actually we're going into

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Speaker 12: Christmas with the economy building and with good momentum.

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Speaker 11: See, there's always a positive to all these things.

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Speaker 2: Right, nothing positive at your house apparently.

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Speaker 11: Role Well, thank you for bringing that up.

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Speaker 2: What is the domestic dispute?

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Speaker 11: And I want to take this opportunity actually to tell

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Speaker 11: you the real story about something my other have said

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Speaker 11: on the breakfast show this morning about the debate. Have

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Speaker 11: her listen to hearther.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you the real story.

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Speaker 13: I'm here for this debate. But this debate between Nicola

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Speaker 13: and Ruth is getting more and more ridiculous by the

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Speaker 13: day because I don't know if you've heard what the

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Speaker 13: latest is, but there is, for one hot minute, they

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Speaker 13: thought that the moderator should be Winston. Apparently this idea

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Speaker 13: has emanated from within my household that Nicola texts me

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Speaker 13: last night. I said it was Barry's idea. So apparently

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Speaker 13: Barry Soaper came up with the idea that Winston should

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Speaker 13: be the moderator. And then pitched it to Nichola's office,

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Speaker 13: and then nicholas office were like, hmm, thank the good Lord.

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Speaker 13: Winston is otherwise occupied and will not be doing it

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Speaker 13: because I'll tell you there's no chance that you would

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Speaker 13: get to hear anything from Nichola or Ruth. It was

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Speaker 13: be the Winston show talking about I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 13: the evils of capitalist I can't that. No, thanks, I

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Speaker 13: want to hear from the ladies anyway. Barry can defend himself.

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Speaker 13: I think it's a terrible idea. Not allowed to say that.

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Speaker 13: I'm not allowed to tell him anymore, like as off

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Speaker 13: limits in the house. I'm not allowed to say your

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Speaker 13: idea sucks. So I just say it on the radio

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Speaker 13: to you and then he can defend it later on.

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Speaker 13: We just have we just have that, like, just have

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Speaker 13: a fight through you.

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Speaker 2: Basically, that's how normal it's all out there. I hate

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Speaker 2: to get in the middle of this, but I think

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Speaker 2: that that may have come from me on Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: because I said that you were you were getting Winston involved. No, well,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much.

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Speaker 11: Right, well, you know, I just the argument in that case.

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Speaker 11: But the thing is that it wasn't me that suggested

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Speaker 11: that Winston might be the moderator of the debate. In fact,

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Speaker 11: it was the taxpayer Union itself.

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Speaker 2: You were just talking him like a good journalist. I

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Speaker 2: went to Winstein and said, would you do it?

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Speaker 11: And he said yes, probably willis.

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Speaker 2: I've muddy the waters. I said, you were orchestrating the

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Speaker 2: whole thing.

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Speaker 11: Thanks right, I'm leaving.

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Speaker 2: I've had enough. Get out, Yeah, go home to Heather

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Speaker 2: and explain yourself. Eight minutes away from five News talks.

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Speaker 1: Big, the headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 13: Christopher Lux and the Prime Minister is in the studio

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Speaker 13: with us. This debate between Nikola and Ruth.

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Speaker 14: Is this a good idea?

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Speaker 12: Look, I mean, Nikolair is right to defend herself and

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Speaker 12: defend our government. As I said to you last week,

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Speaker 12: I do find it odd that the TPU want to

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Speaker 12: encourage a radical labor agenda of text must and.

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Speaker 2: I want to say to you here that, because I

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Speaker 2: know you've probably.

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Speaker 12: Got sympathies towards that side of things, we have lowered

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Speaker 12: in context.

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Speaker 13: I'm not going to defend your taxpayers union in this

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Speaker 13: I think they're just trying to get more for school discipline,

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Speaker 13: which I don't think is a bad idea. But is

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Speaker 13: this debate a good idea? Like this thing has just

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Speaker 13: got legs of its own.

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Speaker 2: It's gone, Natty, Look, I don't know the bottlelight is that.

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Speaker 2: I think she's right to defend herself.

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Speaker 1: Hither duplicy Ellen on the mic asking breakfast back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at six am with the defender and use togs dead.

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Speaker 2: B coming up five away from five now, Ryan. In

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Speaker 2: regards to the Wellington Airport story, Yes, it is awesome technology.

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Speaker 2: This is the big block that they put at each

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Speaker 2: end which your plane will hit and rather than explode,

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Speaker 2: it will just stop. Apparently that's how the theory. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's what it's meant to do. In regards to the story, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's awesome technology. On a side note, though, the other

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Speaker 2: thing that occurred to me this means the airport has

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Speaker 2: given up on lengthening the runway. One wouldn't spend that

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Speaker 2: money at each end if there was a chance of

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Speaker 2: needing to remove it and then extend it. But what's Chris,

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with that? They don't need to extend the

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Speaker 2: runway three hundred and fifty meters into the cook strait

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Speaker 2: do they because they've just put the big lego blocks

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Speaker 2: at the end and it has the same effect. So

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Speaker 2: who cares. You can still land the biggest jets that

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Speaker 2: fly in the skies on a shorter runway, so why

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Speaker 2: do you need a longer one? That would be my

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Speaker 2: question nine two nine two if you work at the

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Speaker 2: airport and you know the answer to that coming up

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Speaker 2: to four minutes away from top of the nail from

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Speaker 2: five o'clock. Now I have to get his name correct

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't have a thing anymore. Andrew mount Batten Windsor.

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Speaker 2: He is the butt of the Christmas joke. They put

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Speaker 2: it out there to the country. Give us a Ristmas

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Speaker 2: cracker joke and the winner. Why is Prince Andrew not

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Speaker 2: writing any Christmas books? Answer? He hasn't got any titles.

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Speaker 2: That's from a kid. He wins fifteen thousand, sorry, fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred pounds towards a holiday. Good on him. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: more on the tear attack out of Sydney after news

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Speaker 2: and how can you make your kids a two dollars lunch?

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you news talks. They'd be.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try to ask the

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Speaker 1: questions just to get the answers, find the facts and

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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Ryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be good evening at seven after five on your

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Speaker 2: Monday nights. Now to Bondo Beach. This terror attack and

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Speaker 2: the suspects. A twenty four year old His name is

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Speaker 2: Navid Arkram. He's in custody right now. His dad, who's fifty,

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Speaker 2: was shot dead at the scene.

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Speaker 15: The son is an Australian born citizen. The father arrived

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Speaker 15: in nineteen ninety eight on a student visa, transferred in

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Speaker 15: two thousand and one to a partner visa, and after

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Speaker 15: each trip overseas since then, has been on resident return visas.

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Speaker 2: So we're learning more about these two now. Reportedly the

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Speaker 2: dad originally came from Pakistan. Police won't confirm that yet.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Levi West is a terrorism research fellow at the

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Speaker 2: Australian National University with me, good evening, Good evening, Aden,

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Speaker 2: very well, thank you. How are you doing. How's Australia doing.

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Speaker 16: Ah, Look, I think this is rattle the country in

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Speaker 16: a quite significant and consequential kind of way. I don't

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Speaker 16: think anyone was expecting something of this kind of scale

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Speaker 16: and gravity to take place in an iconic location like

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Speaker 16: Bondo Beach.

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Speaker 2: We're hearing that they've both pledged allegiance to ISIS. Do

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Speaker 2: we know that for sure yet?

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Speaker 16: There's some indicators in the public domain suggesting that certainly

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Speaker 16: the younger of the father and son duo had previously

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Speaker 16: been investigated for their tie for their connection to Islamic

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Speaker 16: state cells within Australia. There is talk in the public

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Speaker 16: domain that they found Islamic state flags and the vehicle.

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Speaker 16: None of this has been formally confirmed as official information

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Speaker 16: by the government. I would expect that sometime over the

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Speaker 16: next day or two. If that's if those claims are true,

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Speaker 16: then they'll be confirmed by the relevant authorities.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Levy. The thing that's jumping out at me, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it is for others as well. As You've

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Speaker 2: got the son who allegedly head links to an ISIS guy,

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Speaker 2: and then you've got the dad and they're both living

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Speaker 2: in the same house and the dad's got sex legal firearms.

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Speaker 2: How does that work?

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Speaker 16: So I think it's important in the aftermath of any

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Speaker 16: terrorist attack to remember that the assessments for things for instance,

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Speaker 16: the father's gun license. He met the requirements to pass

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Speaker 16: the application for a gun license because he hadn't committed

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Speaker 16: a terrorist attack. Yet, when we look back after an incident,

688
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Speaker 16: it's easy for us to ask questions about, well, why

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Speaker 16: didn't we do something about this person, It's because they

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Speaker 16: hadn't done anything at that point, and that associations with

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Speaker 16: people and associations that your son has with people who's

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Speaker 16: not necessarily sufficient to rule.

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Speaker 2: You out of measures the new stuff.

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Speaker 16: While the state government is talking fairly transparently at the

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Speaker 16: moment about tightening what is, by any measure, some of

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Speaker 16: the toughest gun laws in the world, you know, none

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Speaker 16: of these things are foolproof. I think that's important thing

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Speaker 16: to keep in mind that just because someone has gotten

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Speaker 16: through the system doesn't mean that the system is comprehensively flawed.

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Speaker 16: It means that there's a small gap there that someone's

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Speaker 16: managed to slip through.

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Speaker 2: Anti Semitism, extremist Islamic ideologies, all these things. Are they

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Speaker 2: more prevalent in Australia than they are in other places?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just because we're at next door to

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Speaker 2: you that you know, we notice it more.

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Speaker 16: I don't think it is if you track, for instance,

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Speaker 16: some of the anti Semitism activity that's been happening in

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Speaker 16: Europe in particular, where the baseline level of activity is

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Speaker 16: like in numerical terms but also in terms of severity,

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Speaker 16: is higher than it is in Australia, for instance, but

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Speaker 16: there's more incidents and they tend to be more severe.

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Speaker 16: They haven't reached into this kind of level of proper

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Speaker 16: kinetic terrorist activity, but it's more like sabotage than it

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Speaker 16: is graffiti. It's not to say that it hasn't happened

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Speaker 16: in Australia, obviously it has. But there are other parts

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Speaker 16: of the world where where the kind of anti Semitism

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Speaker 16: that we've witnessed here has been more prevalent and more consequential,

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Speaker 16: you know, and Australia is I think this is something

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Speaker 16: that Australia and New Zealand has learned really in very

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Speaker 16: difficult ways. And speaking here about New Zealand's experience with

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Speaker 16: christ Church and now Australia's experienced with WITHNAI, is that

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Speaker 16: as much as it is easy in both Australia and

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Speaker 16: New Zealand to feel like we're largely disconnected from the

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Speaker 16: world and that we live in splendid isolation because for

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Speaker 16: most of the time we do the realities that we

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Speaker 16: don't that these things happen all over the world, and

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Speaker 16: that that includes Australia and it includes New Zealand. So

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Speaker 16: you know, yes, we have had a significant increase in

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Speaker 16: anti Semitic activity in Australia since October seven. Much of

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Speaker 16: the Western world has experienced that significant uptick in anti semitism.

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Speaker 16: The United States has, Canada has, the UK certainly has. So,

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Speaker 16: you know, I think it's important in these things. Regrettably,

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Speaker 16: these kinds of incidents remind us that Australia and New

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Speaker 16: Zealand are part of the world despite our geographic isolation.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll leave it there, Levia. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your analysis tonight. I believe I wes who's say, national

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Speaker 2: security expert at a and you across the testment. Now

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Speaker 2: to the hero and everyone if you live on planet Earth,

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Speaker 2: you've seen this video today of the hero. This is

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Speaker 2: the fruit and veggie shop owner who hides behind a car,

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Speaker 2: leaps out, grabs the gun off the baddie and then

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Speaker 2: points the gun at the battye so that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: come after him. Incredible footage seen around the world. Trump's

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Speaker 2: weighing in. We'll get to that in a second, but first,

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Speaker 2: his cousin. This is Arpmed l Upmed. His cousin has

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Speaker 2: spoken out too, but we hope he will be fine.

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Speaker 2: He's a hero one d percent. He's a hero because

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Speaker 2: once we see on the on the on the social media,

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Speaker 2: he's like one hundred percent hero. He certainly is. The

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Speaker 2: thing I would worry about is if you pick up

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Speaker 2: a gun and a live shooting environment like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: you had police snipers that were coming in and anti

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Speaker 2: terrorist squad group's coming in. If you pick up a gun,

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Speaker 2: you just worry that you might get the you know,

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Speaker 2: someone might confuse you for the terrorists and shoot you anyway.

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Speaker 2: Armed al Upmed has another cousin here.

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Speaker 17: He is he's got like two shots, one of them

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Speaker 17: like in his shoulder, the other one his young That

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Speaker 17: was very bad. He was getting he was like he

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Speaker 17: was shocked on his hero. He's done a surgery now

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Speaker 17: he's still in the recovery.

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Speaker 18: What was it like when he grabbed that gun off

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Speaker 18: the gun then.

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Speaker 19: You know, yeah, he was very spurt.

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Speaker 17: He was looking he fought me like him, I want

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Speaker 17: to die.

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Speaker 3: I want to.

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Speaker 17: I love you there with me, don't leave me.

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Speaker 2: Legion probably saved lives at Bondi Beach. I reckon. Did

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump give him a shout out too?

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Speaker 5: It's been there's been a very very brave person actually

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Speaker 5: who went and attacked frontally one of the shooters and

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Speaker 5: saved a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of lives.

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Speaker 20: So very brave person who's right now in the hospital.

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Speaker 21: So I great respect to that man that did that.

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Speaker 2: And time now it's five fourteen, Bryan Bridge. You wouldn't

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Speaker 2: guess it from the headlines, but some parts of the

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Speaker 2: school lunches program aren't actually working well. In fact, most

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Speaker 2: parts are working well. You just hear a lot about

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Speaker 2: the moldy school lady from christ Church. However, kids Can,

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Speaker 2: which provides meals to around ten thousand early childhood centers,

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Speaker 2: is as set students, I should say, is getting some

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Speaker 2: great feedback ninety seven percent for consistency, hygiene, ninety eight percent,

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Speaker 2: ninety five percent for service as a whole. Dame Julie

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Speaker 2: Chapman is the Kids Can founder with me, Dame Julie.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Good evening, Ryan, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Things are going well at your.

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Speaker 22: In then, yeah, I mean, it's it's amazing to get

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Speaker 22: that feedback, and I think that it's it's a real

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Speaker 22: testament to the team at kids Can and the work

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Speaker 22: that they've put in. And I guess the way that

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Speaker 22: we actually run that particular food program which is quite

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Speaker 22: separate from the school lunches and it's a bit more

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Speaker 22: bespoke in the way that we do it, but we're

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Speaker 22: super proud of it.

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Speaker 2: What, yeah, I can tell us about what you're doing,

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Speaker 2: because I'm imagining because the younger kids, you're not doing

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Speaker 2: hot meals all the time. Is it more basic stuff

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Speaker 2: than that?

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Speaker 23: Well, what we.

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Speaker 22: Do is a sly We've worked with a group of nutritionists,

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Speaker 22: the Heart Foundation in the past to develop a range

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Speaker 22: of nutritious, wholesome, you know, kid friendly I guess, recipes

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Speaker 22: for children under five. Those ingredients for those recipes are

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Speaker 22: delivered on a weekly basis through our supply partner, and

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Speaker 22: they go to each individual center and then within the center,

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Speaker 22: depending on the menu that they've chosen, they will prepare

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Speaker 22: and cook those recipes. A lot of them are hot meals,

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Speaker 22: but they're prepared from scratch using the ingredients on site.

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Speaker 22: And I guess the point I would make is you know,

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Speaker 22: we're talking about a lot smaller kind of role numbers.

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Speaker 22: You're talking thirty to fifty kids as opposed to you know, hundreds,

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Speaker 22: potentially thousands of kids. So that bespoke model for early

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Speaker 22: childhood works really well.

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Speaker 2: More of my food bag situation where you seen the

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Speaker 2: stuff and then but you've got to look at yourself.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, and a lot of early childhood centers they are

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Speaker 22: already set up to have kitchen facilities, so it's kind

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Speaker 22: of ingredients that can be put together. Kids love it,

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Speaker 22: and I guess the results that we're seeing from that

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Speaker 22: in terms of you know, our service, but importantly more

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Speaker 22: importantly kids participation, trying new foods, eating more veggies. We're

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Speaker 22: just loving that as well.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, don't judy. What does a meal cost?

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Speaker 22: On average? It costs us around two dollars to provide

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Speaker 22: the meal. So that's the ingredients, the distribution, everything included.

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Speaker 22: And I guess you know, we're not for profit, so

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Speaker 22: we're able to do that and we have some amazing

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Speaker 22: partnerships with suppliers of food.

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Speaker 2: Keep it out, So keep it up, Dame Julie, Keep

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Speaker 2: up the good work, Dame Julie, Chapman Kids Count Founded

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Speaker 2: with Founded with us. Tonight's seventeen minutes after five. By

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Speaker 2: the way, the money that allows us to fund those lunches,

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Speaker 2: those that program for the the early childhood education is

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Speaker 2: the money saved from David Seymour's savings drive for the

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Speaker 2: older kids. So the older kids get a meal that's

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Speaker 2: just as nutritious, arguably but cheaper, and the younger kids

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Speaker 2: get something for free. It's seventeen after five, News Talks

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Speaker 2: abit zeb James Cameron next, well, not him, but we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about him five twenty on News Talks zib Ryan.

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Speaker 2: This is from Grant. Why don't the older kids make

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Speaker 2: their lunch from supplied ingredients just like the under fives?

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Speaker 2: Good question, Grant. Presumably there are too many of them.

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Speaker 2: They're fussy. I don't know, but it's a lot hell

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Speaker 2: of a lot cheaper, as we just heard from kids

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Speaker 2: can to do it that way at two bucks a pop. Right.

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Speaker 2: Oscar winning director James Cameron says New Zealand needs to

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Speaker 2: get serious about attracting overseas film productions because the subsidies

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Speaker 2: aren't big enough. They reckon earlier this year, you'll know

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Speaker 2: we changed it. The film rebate scheme allowing more productions

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Speaker 2: to claim back up to twenty five percent of what

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Speaker 2: they spend. Here, Cameron says, still not enough.

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Speaker 24: I think that the little incremental change to the rebate

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Speaker 24: scam recently is it's in it. It's an effort in

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Speaker 24: the right direction, but it's far from sufficient to do that.

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Speaker 2: And he marries with us from the Film Commission Chief Executive,

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Good evening, Annie. Sure, Ryan now is so

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Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty five percent? How does that compare

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Speaker 2: with the rest of the world.

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Speaker 25: Well, we're still sitting around about the middle of the pack,

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Speaker 25: which we have been for more than ten years, and

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Speaker 25: we have built an industry on that. It's not all

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Speaker 25: about that headline rate. There's so much more that New

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Speaker 25: Zealand brings to the table. That is the reason that

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Speaker 25: we've attracted such enormous production to New Zealand over all

867
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Speaker 25: this time. I have to say though, that Jim Cameron

868
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Speaker 25: is right. There are some territories in most noticeably Australia,

869
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Speaker 25: which is a lot more competitive than us. They went

870
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Speaker 25: from a sixteen percent rebate to thirty so they nearly doubled.

871
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Speaker 25: And then you can add state rebates on top of that,

872
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Speaker 25: they are very very busy, and I think what our

873
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Speaker 25: industry is feeling is the comparison between us and there.

874
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Speaker 2: And that's see the problem is because all they've got

875
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Speaker 2: is dirt. I mean, and they read dirt and then

876
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Speaker 2: they've got a bigger subsidy. So I mean, we are

877
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Speaker 2: clearly the more beautiful country. If we up the subsidy,

878
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Speaker 2: we'd get more films, wouldn't we.

879
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Speaker 25: Well it's not quite as simple as that. Yes, there

880
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 25: would be some more films, absolutely, But what they're coming

881
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Speaker 25: for too is our world class people who are very

882
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Speaker 25: very experienced at delivering at scale and at very very

883
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Speaker 25: high tech and also just being fantastic people to work with.

884
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Speaker 25: You'll see every interview that is done with those Hollywood

885
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Speaker 25: producers they say that they love coming here, they love

886
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Speaker 25: working with New Zealanders. Yes, they are looking for the

887
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Speaker 25: best for their bottom line, but they're also looking first

888
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Speaker 25: and foremost for a creative fit and they're certainly finding

889
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Speaker 25: that here.

890
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Speaker 2: Any is the risk that, though, that if we don't

891
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Speaker 2: up the subsidies, that that talent is taken out from

892
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Speaker 2: underneath us by the Aussies.

893
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Speaker 25: There's always that risk, and what we have done. Is

894
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Speaker 25: up to the subsidies about six weeks ago, so we

895
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Speaker 25: have yet to see the results of that.

896
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Speaker 2: Not enough for Gym, not enough for James.

897
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Speaker 25: Well, you know, Jim's at the top end of town.

898
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Speaker 25: He's making the most expensive film in the world, and

899
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Speaker 25: you know he is the first to admit to that.

900
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Speaker 25: So that is a very challenged business model. We've got

901
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Speaker 25: to be realistic about that. You know, when you're making

902
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Speaker 25: very high budget films, you've got to bring in a

903
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Speaker 25: massive audience worldwide to make the revenue to justify that.

904
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Speaker 25: So you know there is pressure on that model. There's

905
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Speaker 25: no denying that streamers have made an enormous difference to

906
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Speaker 25: the cinema attendance. We all know that everybody's happy to

907
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Speaker 25: sit at home and watch movies on the telly rather

908
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Speaker 25: than go to the movies. So you know, things have

909
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Speaker 25: to change and.

910
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Speaker 2: A whole new world. And I really appreciate you coming

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Speaker 2: on the show tonight. Thank you, Annie Murray. Film Commission

912
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Speaker 2: Chief Executive Time is twenty three minutes after five. I

913
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Speaker 2: have a quick for Nikola Willis next.

914
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Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Ryan

915
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Speaker 1: Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drive with one.

916
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: New Zealand coverage like no one else news.

917
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: Talks, they'd be by twenty six. I have a very

918
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: important question for the Finance Minister tonight. She's on the

919
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: program just after News at six, and it affects everyone

920
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: with a mortgage because a third of us, a third

921
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: of mortgage holders will be refixing over this summer period.

922
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: So that is a hell of a lot of us.

923
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Think about how many people that is down at the

924
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: beach under the umbrella with cell phones out scrolling bank rates,

925
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: trying to figure the whole thing out. Doesn't sound very

926
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: relaxing already, does it. The banks are there, obviously, the

927
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: sharks circling with their cash back deals, trying to rope

928
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: you win, and we're all desperate to just jump in

929
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: the ocean. It's hot on the sand, the feet are burning.

930
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: We just want to get the thing done, don't we.

931
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: We want to get him there, except we don't want

932
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Speaker 2: to get eaten by the sharks. We want the best

933
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Speaker 2: deal possible from the banks, and we need to know

934
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Speaker 2: when to fix and we need to know for how long.

935
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Speaker 2: To do that, you need good information, sound, clear information

936
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: communication from in particular the Reserve Bank, except that's not

937
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: what we got at the last meeting, is it? We

938
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: got confusion, We got mixed messages from Hawksby's last hurrah.

939
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Speaker 2: They've muddied the waters were now swimming in murky waters

940
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: with sharks great. The markets have been given the impression

941
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Speaker 2: that rates will start climbing again from February. How do

942
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: we know this well, the retail rates are already starting

943
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 2: to climb again. And the new Swedish import Anna Bremen

944
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Speaker 2: not Ikia. She's come in and was given a chance

945
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: to clarify this last week but didn't. So question for

946
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: Nikola willis after six o'clock tonight should the Reserve Bank

947
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: come out and clarify its position publicly? And is three

948
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: months between meetings? Three months between Reserve Bank ocr meetings

949
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: a little long to let bad information fester in already

950
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: infested waters, Ryan Bridge, we'll ask twenty eight minutes after

951
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: five News Talk ZMB names up in the cards.

952
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, let's know what we don't.

953
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Hard questions, strong opinion, Ryan Bridge on Heather Dupicy Ellen

954
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite

955
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: mobile News Talks MBS.

956
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: I can wait to see those face twenty four away

957
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: from sex yar on News Talk ZB we'll get to

958
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: the huddles shortly with Trisherson and Gareth Hughes. Nichola Willis,

959
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: the Finance Minister, Live after sixth evening. Now the cops

960
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: in the US, so they arrest a guy. This is

961
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: the mass shooting at Brown University. People were very scared, petrified.

962
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: They reportedly get a call from someone who dabs in

963
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: who they think the shooter is. So the police then

964
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: take action. They've got a cell phone number of this guy.

965
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: They immediately take action. They go and locate him by

966
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Speaker 2: a GPS, track him down to a hotel room. He's

967
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Speaker 2: in a hotel room with two firearms. They arrest him,

968
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: they haul him in. Word gets out, media is reporting it.

969
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: Police now say they're going to have to release this person.

970
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: They might have got the wrong guy. So I mean,

971
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Speaker 2: be careful what you wish for and don't act too soon.

972
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: I suppose twenty three away from six now you'll see police,

973
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: some heavily armed outside Jewish schools and synagogues here in

974
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Speaker 2: New Zealand after what happened in Sydney. Joining me ours

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Speaker 2: Mike Panet, the Assistant Police Commissioner Good evening.

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Speaker 20: Mike, Good evening, Ryan.

977
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: So you've been talking to your colleagues across the ditch today,

978
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: have you. What are they telling you?

979
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 20: Yes, So we're in constant communication with their colleagues in

980
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 20: Australia and they are keeping us surprised, as would be expected.

981
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 20: We have offered our assistants and support to them, but

982
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 20: at this stage, their investigations continue and we will continue

983
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 20: to offer support and monitor what's happening across there.

984
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: Why because people are texting and as you're talking, I'm

985
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: seeing police outside this school or this Why is that happening?

986
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: Is that just a precaution in case someone else follows suit?

987
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: Or do you have any specific information?

988
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 20: So we have no immediate threat to New Zealand, so

989
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 20: our national count terrorism or terrorism threat level remains low.

990
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 20: What we are doing is assessing the information. We're assessing

991
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 20: any potential risk that comes off the back of it.

992
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 20: And while we're doing that, we are taking precautions. But

993
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 20: we're also providing reassurance, particularly to the viewers community and

994
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 20: to other communities out there, to let them know that

995
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 20: we are out there, we are monking, we are present

996
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 20: for them.

997
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: What should people do? I know you put you put

998
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: advice out on this a couple of months ago. What

999
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: should you do if you find yourself, God forbid, in

1000
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: a situation like that?

1001
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 20: Yeah, the terrible situation, but the crowded places strategy that

1002
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 20: was released a couple of months ago, it's pretty clear.

1003
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 20: So three simple things to remember. The first one is

1004
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 20: to escape, to move quickly and quietly away from danger,

1005
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 20: but only do it when it's safe to do it.

1006
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 20: The other thing is to hide and stay out of sight,

1007
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 20: silence your mobile phone, and don't reveal yourself to any offenders.

1008
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 20: And the third thing is to tell. So call the

1009
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 20: police as soon as you can dial one one one

1010
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 20: when it's safe to do so. We will absolutely attend

1011
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 20: as fast as we can. But you know, as the

1012
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 20: circumstances of showing over the last day, there is you

1013
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 20: know that no time, no advance warning, and just the

1014
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 20: terrible consequences of what's occurred.

1015
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: Mike, what did you think of that guy that you

1016
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: know in the video, the hero who got up there

1017
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: and got the gun.

1018
00:53:54,200 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 20: Yeah, look and incredibly brave without fear for himself moving forward,

1019
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 20: So you have to recognize that. But you know there's

1020
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 20: also the other side of that is you can avoid

1021
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 20: doing so. You shouldn't put yourself at unnecessary risk. But

1022
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 20: that doesn't diminish from the fantastic job he did putting

1023
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 20: his own life at risking.

1024
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: He certainly did because I thought when he picked up

1025
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: the gun, I thought, oh my goodness. You know, if

1026
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: the police are there and they're sharpshooting from a distance

1027
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: or something. I mean, at that point, things can get messy,

1028
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: can't they Because you don't necessarily know who's who.

1029
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 20: Yeah, exactly, and when you arrive in a scene like

1030
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 20: that is it is a very confusing situation. And so

1031
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 20: you're one hundred percent Ryan, that is a risk and

1032
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 20: another reason why you shouldn't do it.

1033
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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time tonight, Mike. Thank you. Mike Pannett, who's

1034
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Speaker 2: the Assistant Police Commissioner. It is twenty to six.

1035
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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name

1036
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

1037
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Speaker 2: Huddling tonight, Trish Huson, Shirston Willis pr Good evening, Trish Hi,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Gareth hus Is with US two direct of the

1039
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: Wellington Sorry well Being Economy Alliance ALTEDO and former Green MP.

1040
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show too, Gareth, good evening.

1041
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: How are you.

1042
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 20: Oh, I'm very good, Thank you very good.

1043
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: Nice to have you here. Hey, just a horrible situation

1044
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: for us to wake up to the news or go

1045
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: to bed last night to the news. Trush, what do

1046
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: you think when you look at what's happening in Sydney

1047
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: right now?

1048
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 18: Well, just on a human level, I simply can't understand

1049
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 18: how you get to a state in your head where

1050
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 18: you think it's going to do anything or change anything,

1051
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 18: or as anyway you know, the way to go to

1052
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 18: go out and just slaughter innocent people.

1053
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just at the beach.

1054
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 18: It's just horrible, isn't it. And I think their most

1055
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 18: awful thing about what's happened at Bondi is as usual

1056
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 18: these individuals have chosen a really high profile target and

1057
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 18: an event because their whole aim is to try and

1058
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 18: send a message and you know, it might seem a

1059
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 18: little bit kind of wofty and zen I guess, but

1060
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 18: I always think when in situations like this, it's it's

1061
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Speaker 18: a great example of hatred begets hatred and you know,

1062
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 18: nothing good ever comes from that.

1063
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Speaker 2: It doesn't. And I mean already in Australia. They're talking

1064
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: about migration, and they're talking about have we got the

1065
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: settings right? All that kind of stuff, Gareth. But just

1066
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Speaker 2: the thing that gets you is the evil, How evil

1067
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: it is, how dark it feels when somebody can do

1068
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 2: that to another person.

1069
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Speaker 20: Oh, I agree the trish.

1070
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Speaker 26: I can't fathom the thought process that would lead to that.

1071
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Speaker 26: Absolutely horrible and it's at hate right, It's a extremeist

1072
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Speaker 26: hate which is driving not only this but some other

1073
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Speaker 26: shocking events that we've been victims of with the mosque

1074
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Speaker 26: shooting in the past. And I know the police commissioner

1075
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Speaker 26: has to say that are not urging people to be heroes,

1076
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Speaker 26: but I salute Armed al Ahmed Like watching that footage

1077
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Speaker 26: was just incredible. I understand he's a dad of to himself,

1078
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Speaker 26: As a dad of too myself, I can't believe you'd

1079
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Speaker 26: put yourself in such harm's way. But what an incredibly

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Speaker 26: brave man.

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Speaker 2: Now I have to ask you this, Gareth. As a

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Speaker 2: former Green MP Chloe Swarbrick has been singled out individually

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Speaker 2: today by Debra Hart on this program, who's from the

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Speaker 2: Holocaust Center. Her rhetoric from the River to the Sea,

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Speaker 2: chanting at rallies. She says, that is exactly the type

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Speaker 2: of rhetoric which encourages bad stuff like this happening. Do

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Speaker 2: you distance yourself from that, Well, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 26: Use those particular words, and I think it's also very

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Speaker 26: tasteless and I think pretty disgusting the comments of Benjamin E.

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Speaker 26: Yahoo blaming effectively Australia for their active Palestinian state recognition.

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Speaker 26: Eighty percent of countries around the world have done that.

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Speaker 26: The UN has done that since a resolution in the

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Speaker 26: nineteenth seventies. What we need to do is separate anti

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Speaker 26: Semitism and other forms of discrimination which have no place

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Speaker 26: in our society that drives hateful violence. But the policy

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Speaker 26: choices of a state which is signed up to international

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Speaker 26: law are two separate things. It's okay to criticize as well.

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Speaker 26: Anti Semitism is never okay.

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Speaker 18: And I think that's one of the worrying things we've

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Speaker 18: seen how quickly the conversation around this moves onto a

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Speaker 18: political footing, which is completely wrong. These are two separate things.

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Speaker 18: This is a hideous evil act and trying to put

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Speaker 18: a political overlay on it. No matter what you think

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Speaker 18: about what's going on in the Middle East, it is

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Speaker 18: not okay to go and do what happened at Bondai Beats.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Trish Huson and Garetheu's on you Huddle

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Speaker 2: tonight back in a ticktook the Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only truly global.

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Speaker 2: Brand TB is thirteen minutes away from six. Trish Shurson

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Speaker 2: from Sheerson Willis pr and Garethew's former Green MP with

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Speaker 2: US tonight now. So Motor Trade Association is warning that

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't extend the wafts from one years to two

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Speaker 2: years one years two years because we will have more

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Speaker 2: cars with problems driving around on the streets and causing issues. Gareth,

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Speaker 2: do you have a problem? I mean to me, I'm like, sweet,

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Speaker 2: I'll save fifty bucks. It's about as much as I

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Speaker 2: thought about it. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 26: Well, I mean that does sound nice, but I also

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Speaker 26: know people who have been in terrible car crashes and

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Speaker 26: had family members dyeing them. So, I mean, what's the

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Speaker 26: point of a waft? After all, it's about safety. We

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Speaker 26: drive some of the oldest cars in the developed world.

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Speaker 26: Our average older car is fifteen years old. I actually

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Speaker 26: kind of like going to the testing center. They tell me,

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Speaker 26: I'll to got to fill the oil, and I should

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Speaker 26: really do that. But I think, you know, basically we

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Speaker 26: should be common tent about this. This is about safety.

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Speaker 26: I see the AA saying that maybe it really should

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Speaker 26: be based on the amount of distance travel rather than

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Speaker 26: just the age, which could be seen as a bit

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Speaker 26: arbitrary for me. At the heart of it, we should

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Speaker 26: be making these decisions based on safety, not just cost

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Speaker 26: and productivity. I understand the forecasters that if we make

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Speaker 26: this change we could see eight additional fatal car crashes

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Speaker 26: as the estimate. You know, this is a question about

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Speaker 26: what we value and that comes at huge cost, more

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Speaker 26: so than me saving fifty bucks.

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Speaker 18: I think all great points from Gareth, except I am

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Speaker 18: a fan of moving it out to two years. I

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Speaker 18: think probably the people who go and get a WAFT

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Speaker 18: every year, which is you know, a lot of people,

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Speaker 18: but they are also the people who probably book their

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Speaker 18: cars in for at least an annual service, if not

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Speaker 18: a couple of services. I think there's a huge rump

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Speaker 18: of people who are driving unregistered, unwarranted cars who this

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Speaker 18: will completely pass by. But I think for the majority

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Speaker 18: of people who are regular in getting their waft. They're

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Speaker 18: going to have their car serviced anyway, So I think

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Speaker 18: that's a mitigation against.

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Speaker 2: The organized people.

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Speaker 18: Organize people and probably the people who you want to

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Speaker 18: keep their car in good running order, because ultimately that's

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Speaker 18: going to save the money over time as well.

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Speaker 2: True that hey, James Cameron wants some more money out

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Speaker 2: of us, Gareth, you have because things they do create jobs,

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Speaker 2: and the jobs are not just any old jobs. They're

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Speaker 2: normally quite well paid jobs, and they give us free

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Speaker 2: publicity by making amazing movies. So if he says jump,

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Speaker 2: do we say how high?

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Speaker 26: Well, it's a really tricky one and I think it's

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Speaker 26: a genuine policy dilemma. On one hand, we're in an

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Speaker 26: arms race right against other countries that are also lowering

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Speaker 26: that and offering tax rebates and lowering things to attract them.

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Speaker 26: It's kind of an arms race, and there's a rest

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Speaker 26: that you're racing to the bottom. But on the other hand, right,

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Speaker 26: these are high value exports. I live in Wellington, you know,

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Speaker 26: I think five hundred million to the local economy. I

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Speaker 26: know people employed in the sector. I personally would rather

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Speaker 26: see New Zealand exporting weightless creative products like films or

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Speaker 26: games than dirty, old, polluting products. So in other countries

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Speaker 26: industrial strategy you actually pick some sectors that you really

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Speaker 26: want to foster and develop. I would be perfectly happy

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Speaker 26: with video games movies, but we needed a better job

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Speaker 26: of communicating the actual benefits. That's not clear. So I

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Speaker 26: think there's a lot of skepticism when Cameron, you know,

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Speaker 26: of course, in his own self interest, is going to

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Speaker 26: be saying we need more money. If we're going to

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Speaker 26: do that, there's another side of the deal. It's got

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Speaker 26: to have real benefits for local communities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does. It does. I'm with you. I

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Speaker 2: actually think you should up it until we beat the Australians,

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Speaker 2: which are at thirty percent now apparently trus Well.

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Speaker 18: I think it's a great area for New Zealand to

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Speaker 18: focus on because don't forget now with Lord of the Rings,

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Speaker 18: we've got almost thirty years of capability at the very

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Speaker 18: highest end of global movie making. I was around at

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Speaker 18: the time of the original Lord of the Rings movies

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Speaker 18: in Wellington and my husband was one of the crew

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Speaker 18: that got his start in filmmaking there, and it was

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Speaker 18: just incredible for those young guys to get a start

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Speaker 18: on a Hollywood movie and in a highly technical movie

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Speaker 18: like that, and a lot of them have gone on

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Speaker 18: and they are now the foundation of the New Zealand

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Speaker 18: film industry. I think from the government perspective, the issue

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Speaker 18: where is there is a lack of fact and evidence

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Speaker 18: based out there to say, you know, we are strategically

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Speaker 18: making this a focus. This is what we know about

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Speaker 18: its returns to everyone. These are the jobs created. So

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Speaker 18: I think they need to put the two They need

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Speaker 18: to decide if it is an industry they want to back,

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Speaker 18: and then they need to put the pieces of the

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Speaker 18: puzzle together and sell it.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, they can't sell the movie story, which is you know,

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Speaker 2: the industry's filled with people who are selling things. But

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Speaker 2: I think you're right and the South Koreans are a

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Speaker 2: great example of this. You know the Demon Pop Gareth,

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Speaker 2: You've got kids, haven't you? The dem k Pop, Demon

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Speaker 2: Hunters whatever it's called, the show that the it on Netflix,

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Speaker 2: everyone's watching, And they did a survey of tourists coming

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Speaker 2: into South Krek because they've got this massive explosion and

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Speaker 2: tourism numbers. What are you coming for? Are the kids

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Speaker 2: wanted to come? Because this is where it's filmed, this

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Speaker 2: is where it's from, so it has a massive impact.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think you're right. We need to

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Speaker 2: sell the story better. Trish, thank you, Trish hus and

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Speaker 2: Shust and Willis pr Gareth Hughes who's the director of

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Speaker 2: the Well Being Economy Alliance ALTO and you'll know him

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Speaker 2: as a former green MP. News Talks EB it's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EB five away from six News Talks EB. Now, I

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Speaker 2: just was speaking to you after five about Anna Breman,

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank governor, saying she really needs to come

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Speaker 2: out and say something about this muck up with the markets,

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Speaker 2: and it did a whole piece. It was fabulous. You

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Speaker 2: were listening and one of your texted and said, you idiot,

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Speaker 2: you've actually missed what she has just said. So since

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Speaker 2: we've been on air this afternoon, she has done exactly

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Speaker 2: that Anna Breman, which I think is great, Like if

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Speaker 2: you miss step and would we have got this from

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Speaker 2: or would we have got this from Hawksby, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but she said she'd be transparent and up front, straight

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Speaker 2: up the guts, and so far she passes the snow test,

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Speaker 2: so she has come up with a statement. Today, Miss

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Speaker 2: Breman reiterated that the forward path of the OCR published

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Speaker 2: in the November MPs indicates a slight probability of another

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Speaker 2: rate cut in the near term. However, if economic conditions

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Speaker 2: evolvers expected, the OCR is likely to remain at its

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Speaker 2: current level of two point two five percent for some time.

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Speaker 2: In other words, you can probably keep it where it

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Speaker 2: is for the rest of next year. The quote financial

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Speaker 2: market conditions have tightened since November beyond what is implied

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Speaker 2: by our central projection for the OCR. As always, we're

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Speaker 2: closely monitoring this. Blah blah blah. Anyway, that's all she

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Speaker 2: had to do, and wholesale rates dropped nine percent on

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Speaker 2: the back of it, so clearly message has been received, delivered,

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Speaker 2: science sell delivered received and everything as well. Was the

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Speaker 2: world again. Good job, the first test passes, well done.

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Speaker 2: Not only do we get Ikea, but we get Arna

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Speaker 2: Bremen and everybody's happy. Now it's coming up to six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Nicola willis on the show. After six we've got the well,

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Speaker 2: big day for her tomorrow. Probably gonna have to push

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Speaker 2: the serpace out again over in Australia after the terror attack.

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Speaker 2: Migration is now the topic dejure. Here's some of the

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Speaker 2: punters that Sky spoke to.

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Speaker 21: So more people coming into this country.

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Speaker 2: Where's the worse it goes? These are the.

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Speaker 21: Government's fall to the governments who know exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 21: The happens second time, so people doesn't understand whatever happened?

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Speaker 21: Are they Wherever are you coming from? It stays there,

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Speaker 21: not this country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the point that people are making. Don't

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Speaker 2: bring bad news to our shawes please. How will Elbow

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Speaker 2: deal with that? That'll be one for them. They're having

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Speaker 2: a meeting by the way in the next few minutes

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Speaker 2: talk about guns and sort of simplifying the gun laws,

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Speaker 2: making them more streamlined across the states. Whatever they can do,

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Speaker 2: really they are promising to do on guns. It is

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Speaker 2: coming up the sixth. Nicola willis next on News Talks EB.

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Speaker 1: And keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 3: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Mood.

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Speaker 1: Of vehicle Insurance, Your Features and Good Haads Newstalk zedby

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Speaker 1: good Ending.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Monday seven after six. Now we'll get to

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Speaker 2: Shane Stoley with the market shortly the mta On wats

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Speaker 2: and Gavin Gray out of the UK before top of

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Speaker 2: the hour. Right now, Nikola Willis, the Finance Minister, joins

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Speaker 2: me live Minister, good evening, Good evening, run. I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: you would have been pleased to see this statement that

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Speaker 2: Arna Breman has come out with the Reserve Bank governor

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Speaker 2: kind of fixing up or correcting what the market was

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Speaker 2: interpreting from that November meeting.

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Speaker 27: Well, she did note that financial market conditions had tightened

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Speaker 27: beyond what was implied by the Reserve Bank central projection,

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Speaker 27: that they were monitoring that and would continue to assess it.

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Speaker 27: And I note that the market has responded since she

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Speaker 27: made that statement, with wholesale rates coming down.

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Speaker 2: It's great. I mean, I know you can't direct the

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank tell them what to do, but did you

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Speaker 2: say or give a nudge to say, hey, maybe you

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Speaker 2: know you need to clarify your position or tell us

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Speaker 2: what you really think about it something like that.

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Speaker 27: I think this is entirely consistent with what doctor Braman

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Speaker 27: has said she will do, which has been an open,

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Speaker 27: transparent and clear communicator. And that's what she's achieved with

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Speaker 27: the statement.

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Speaker 2: God, isn't it refreshing.

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Speaker 27: It's good, she's great, She's a great appointment.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, Right, did Camnet talk about the terror attack in

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Speaker 2: Sydney today and if so, what was discussed?

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Speaker 27: Yes, we did. We shared our concern how what was

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Speaker 27: clearly an anti Semitic attack and how vulnerable that makes

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Speaker 27: Jewish people feel around the world, but particularly here at home.

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Speaker 27: We talked about how shared support for that community and

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Speaker 27: our willingness to do what's required to ensure they continue

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Speaker 27: to feel safe here in New Zealand, and just our

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Speaker 27: general feeling of horror that such an event could occur,

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Speaker 27: in our sympathy for all Australians affected by it.

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Speaker 2: Could you get any updates on sidecurity alerts for New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: whether we need to be more worried here?

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Speaker 27: No, that wasn't what happened at cabinet, and regardless, we

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Speaker 27: don't comment publicly on matters of national security.

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Speaker 2: Debra Hart, who's with the Holocaust Center, she came on

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Speaker 2: the program today and unprompted, she singled out Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 2: for some of her language and rhetoric around Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: Do you think politicians need to take this as a

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Speaker 2: sign to call the jets.

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Speaker 27: Yes, yes they do. We need to be really careful

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Speaker 27: that in attacking the policies of a particular government, as

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Speaker 27: some political parties have done with regard to Israel, we

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Speaker 27: don't incite violence and hatred against the people, the Jewish people.

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Speaker 27: And there is no question I know from speaking to

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Speaker 27: the Jewish community that many in that community have felt

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Speaker 27: singled out by some of the rhetoric coming from politicians

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Speaker 27: in our parliament. There is no place for anti Semitism

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Speaker 27: in New Zealand. Every Jewish person in this country deserves

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Speaker 27: to feel safe.

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Speaker 2: You got the hy for coming out this week and

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Speaker 2: well everyone reckons you're going to push a surplus out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we did this, will you push a surpace

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Speaker 2: out or not dance last week? So we won't do

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Speaker 2: it again this week? But do you have do you

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Speaker 2: have anything you want to say about that? Because I

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Speaker 2: think people are expecting it now, Minister.

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Speaker 27: You see, well there's one sleep to go and tomorrow.

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Speaker 27: What I get to set out is the government's continued

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Speaker 27: path back to surplus, our path to bending the debt

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Speaker 27: curve down, all of which can be achieved with ongoing

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Speaker 27: fiscal discipline. Importantly, I also get to update the Treasury's

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Speaker 27: economic forecasts, and that's what shows the picture for more

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Speaker 27: job creation and come growth into the future, people doing better.

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Speaker 27: And then on Thursday we get the actual update to

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Speaker 27: what's happened in the economy over the past few month

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Speaker 27: and all the signs from economists, including my own, that

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Speaker 27: we actually grew faster in that September quarter than anyone

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Speaker 27: was previously prepared to predict.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's talk about the weird debate. It's I'm calling

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Speaker 2: it a weird debate because it seems it's gone on

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Speaker 2: too long, Like, just do it or just shut up

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Speaker 2: a bit.

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Speaker 27: I'll look home with you, Ryan. We've booked a venue.

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Speaker 27: All that matters to me is there's a moderator. The

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Speaker 27: tax payers Union can live with that. All media can

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Speaker 27: be there. Happens this week so that we can get

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Speaker 27: it done. I'm up for it. But look, it seems

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Speaker 27: that there's all sorts of coming and going from the

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Speaker 27: other side. Frankly, if they don't want to have the debate,

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Speaker 27: that's on them.

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Speaker 2: So who So what was what moderators did you agree to?

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Speaker 2: You agreed to the Bank, the Cameron bagri Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: and they won't agree to that or something like that.

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Speaker 27: So yeah, we said, look, can bag ree fine, Winston,

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Speaker 27: Peter's fine, Toby manheih, fine, that doesn't really matter. What's

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Speaker 27: the key thing is I didn't want the timing to

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Speaker 27: clash with the release of GDP economic data on Tusday.

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Speaker 27: And then I thought it was important that will media

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Speaker 27: be able to cover the event. Other than that, I

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Speaker 27: don't really care, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well they wanted to have it on this program,

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Speaker 2: So did you not agree to that? What's wrong with

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Speaker 2: this program?

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Speaker 8: Look?

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Speaker 27: I'm an equal opportunity player and I didn't want to

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Speaker 27: preference one media outlet over another. There was interest from everyone.

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Speaker 27: Ted and Z wanted to host it, stuff wanted to

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Speaker 27: host Who cares? New Zealand even put.

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Speaker 2: In a y me. You got radio, you got online,

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Speaker 2: you got streaming, you got you got everything under the sun,

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Speaker 2: all handed to you on the plant, Minister.

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Speaker 27: And well, I'd certainly want you to be covering it,

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Speaker 27: that's for sure, which is partly why we rejected the

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Speaker 27: idea of just doing it, for example.

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Speaker 2: On the platformyone. Did the platform get in there with

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Speaker 2: a bid too?

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Speaker 27: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Did anyone not come in with a bid?

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Speaker 27: Not that I'm a there was, there was widespread interest

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Speaker 27: and look for me, you know, I want it to

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Speaker 27: be about the substance, which is that I have very

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Speaker 27: good answers to a lot of the half baked attacks. Well,

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Speaker 27: we'll have to be that particular lobby group mate relish

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Speaker 27: the opportunity to give them rebuttal in real time.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to take you with it. I suspect this

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Speaker 2: thing is not going to happen. It's going to be anyway.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. So Advatar, By the way, I

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Speaker 2: saw you at the premiere. You looked fantastic in the

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Speaker 2: frock gown whatever it was, in the walking down the

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Speaker 2: red carpet. So that's great. What about you?

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Speaker 18: Thank you, run, thank you.

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Speaker 27: This was totally what I was expecting in my interview

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Speaker 27: this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: The rebate situation though, so James Cameron saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is good, but we could do more. Does he

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Speaker 2: have a point because if it works, then you want

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Speaker 2: to be competitive, don't you.

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Speaker 27: Well, look, we have made a confirmation that we're going

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Speaker 27: to continue that rebate and that involved a big commitment

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Speaker 27: in this year's budget. And I've listened to the sector

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Speaker 27: who said to me look, you need to make some

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Speaker 27: tweaks to this, minister if you want to attract more

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Speaker 27: international productions. We made some changes a few weeks ago

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Speaker 27: that have been welcomed by the sector and which actually

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Speaker 27: the Film Commission have told me has led to more

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Speaker 27: expressions of interest very rapidly following those changes. So look,

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Speaker 27: we're a listening government. We want the film sector to

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Speaker 27: succeed here and we'll make sure that those settings are

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Speaker 27: working to ensure we get international productions coming here, creating

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Speaker 27: key we jobs, creating big Keiwi incomes. That's what we

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Speaker 27: want to see.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Hey minister, this will be our final chat for

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Speaker 2: the year. Well, I'm off on Thursday. You'll be off

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Speaker 2: whenever you're off. What are your plans this summer?

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Speaker 27: Well, I'm very fortunate. I'm going to go to Riversdale

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Speaker 27: Beach on the Widded Upper Coast with our kids and

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Speaker 27: they'll be doing surf life saying, I'll be reading a

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Speaker 27: couple of novels and maybe having a gen T or two.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy well deserved rest. Nikola willis the Finance Minister. Quarter

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Speaker 2: gets to the markets nineteen after six for Shane Solly

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Speaker 2: Harbor Asset Management, Shane good Evening, get it right, so

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Speaker 2: do well. Bit of a surprise for the markets today,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it with the announcement the statement from the governor

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Speaker 2: at the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, so, new Governor Anna Bremen did probably a little

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Speaker 28: bit of a nearly Christmas present for market san indeed

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Speaker 28: the economy by calling the risk of rate hikes. What

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Speaker 28: she said was in quite strongly worded comments, very much

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Speaker 28: sort of design to push back on market pricing of

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Speaker 28: interest rate hikes next year. Governor Bremen reinforced the official

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Speaker 28: case rate likely to remain at two twenty five for

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Speaker 28: some time. She said, the New Zealand economy is in

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Speaker 28: line with novemberg expectations that market conditions have tightened more

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Speaker 28: than the manation policy statement imply so a bit of

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Speaker 28: a reprieve there. Markets reacted quite positively. We saw probably

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Speaker 28: the most important one for mort which holders a three

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Speaker 28: year swap rate used as a reference point for some

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Speaker 28: bank mortgages. It fell just under zero point one percent

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Speaker 28: zero point nine to be exact. The three thirty one,

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Speaker 28: still well above their recent love of mid October and

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Speaker 28: two point six percent. New Zealand dollar pulled back a

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Speaker 28: little bit from its reason and high as against the US,

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Speaker 28: started to close at fifty seven to seventy. New Zealand

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Speaker 28: Shire market quite liked it almost one percent, led by

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Speaker 28: Strength and Phision and Vocal Healthcare, which is benefiting from

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Speaker 28: unfortunately an outbreak of flu in the northern Hemisphere looks

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Speaker 28: bad at milk and a bit of a bounce back

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Speaker 28: from recent weakness. And Auckland Airport was up on improving

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Speaker 28: traffic training. So certainly the market's liked that update.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just refreshing, isn't it really to have?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, it's actually very your helpful. It's a good

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Speaker 28: timing to be doing.

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Speaker 2: This, absolutely, particularly because we've we've got to wait until

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Speaker 2: February before we get on next meeting. Now the PSS

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Speaker 2: sign this is our Performance of Services Index in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: The data was released a bit soft again today.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, it's just telling us this service industry remains pretty mild.

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Speaker 28: Fell to forty six point nine and they've got down

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Speaker 28: from forty eight point four in October. Look, it's a

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Speaker 28: reading below fifty. That means we're contracting services index is

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Speaker 28: now read below fifty for twenty one straight months. This

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Speaker 28: is a real you know, a lot of people out

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Speaker 28: there will know this, but this data remains pretty challenging.

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Speaker 28: And so when we mix that with last week's stronger

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Speaker 28: manufacturing data, that sort of composite indicator suggests that we're

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Speaker 28: still going to see downside risk to even a modest

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Speaker 28: New Zealand growth number for early twenty twenty six. Governor

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Speaker 28: Breman's comments tonight today were pretty timely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely much much needed given the state of play there,

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01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,959
Speaker 2: and of course services is a big chunk of the economy.

1504
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: To the US. The share market down last week. This

1505
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 2: is on the soft tech results.

1506
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 28: Yeah, and you know, down quarter percent zero point two

1507
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 28: five percent, but really weighed by some of the artificial

1508
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 28: intelligence heavyweights like Uricon, Broadcom. So we've seen some deflation

1509
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 28: in this US semiconductor share price bubble that people are

1510
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 28: quite rightly focusing on so the semiconductor and dixter to

1511
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 28: includes big companies like a Video was down six percent

1512
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 28: last week and that magnificent seven group of companies, So

1513
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 28: it's quite a big chunk of global shar market benchmarks

1514
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 28: that most qbs have a growth and balance funds have

1515
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 28: an allocation too. But it's been a really good place

1516
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 28: to invest run over the last twelve months. Indeed, you

1517
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 28: know that semiconductor index is up eighty one percent year today,

1518
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 28: so a little bit of a pullback after a big role.

1519
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 28: What we are seeing the RYAN is a rotation of

1520
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 28: performance to either industry sect. The sectors that benefit from

1521
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 28: lower US federal interest rates strong recondom make it to

1522
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 28: be things like financials, commodities, industrious, so they are providing

1523
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 28: a bit of a fun off set to the US

1524
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 28: tech pullback. So you know, we can sort of breathe

1525
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 28: easily at this stage. And there are other things still

1526
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 28: providing some support the quious however, and of course we've

1527
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 28: got chat GPT five point two released overnight. It's got

1528
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 28: people very excited, so you never know.

1529
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 2: You never know, all right, We live in hope and

1530
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: and also hope for a big twenty twenty six on

1531
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: the stock market too, hopefully the local economy as well. Shane,

1532
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: Good to have you on the program is always Shane Soley,

1533
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: Harbor Raset Management. You're on News Talks MB Schober's next

1534
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: six twenty three.

1535
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 3: Ever's to do with money? It matters to you.

1536
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and MAM's Motor Vehicle Insurance.

1537
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands.

1538
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: News TALKSBB six twenty five. If you've seen movies like

1539
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: The Princess Brianon when Harry met Sally, then the director

1540
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 2: you'll know is he's also an actor. Rob Reiner. Police

1541
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: are investigating a potential apparent homicide of two people at

1542
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 2: Rob Ryaner's house. That's all they have said so far.

1543
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: Firefighters went there. This is in the Brentwood neighborhood in LA.

1544
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: They found a seventy eight year old man and a

1545
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: sixty eight year old woman there dead. Now media, the

1546
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: local media over there, the paparazzi and stuff. They're all

1547
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: reporting that. Sources say the couple was killed by their

1548
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: son neck. Police at this stage aren't confirming that information, though.

1549
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 29: There are going to be many family members interviewed. I'm

1550
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 29: not going to confirm whether someone's being interviewed at this

1551
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 29: time or not. We're going to try to speak to

1552
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 29: every family member that we can to get to the

1553
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 29: facts of this investigation.

1554
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 2: Very said a lot of activity outside. They're mentioned in

1555
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: Brentwood right now. It is twenty six after six.

1556
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1557
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: You will know the song. The longest animated TV show

1558
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: and history is continuing to find new ways to make headlines.

1559
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 2: The Simpsons is now in its thirty seventh season, and

1560
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: so they've got to do something they've never done before.

1561
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 2: They've got to hype it up. They've made Maggie Simpson

1562
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: the baby speak ha. She's voiced by a pretty major

1563
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: actress as well. See if you can work out who

1564
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 2: this is, Uggie, Maggie.

1565
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 13: West your voice you're still getting over with that wayland ginas.

1566
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 3: Please don't let bar drive. It's too scary.

1567
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 29: He drives so wiggly, and everybody hunts in us and

1568
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 29: yells bad words and shows us fingers.

1569
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: Okay, whose voice is that? Does anyone can any of it?

1570
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: Lindsey Lohan, I would never have guessed that you'll know

1571
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: her from Mean Girls, Freaky Friday and multiple public breakdowns

1572
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: in the late two thousands normally at nightclubs. Well, she's

1573
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: pretty happy about this new gig, even if it was

1574
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: just a cameo. In a flashforward scene, she said the

1575
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: role was a dream come true. This isn't actually the

1576
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: first time that the youngest Simpson has spoken in the show, though,

1577
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: comedian Carol Kane said one sentence as Maggie all the

1578
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: way back in season two. She's also been voiced by

1579
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Jodie Foster, James ah So this has happened loads before,

1580
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 2: James Earl Jones as well over the years. There's even

1581
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 2: a whole new Simpsons movie coming out soon right now.

1582
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: It's set for July twenty twenty seven release. The question

1583
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: is whenever will the Simpsons finish? Never? Never? It is

1584
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: six thirty coming up six thirty Newsport Weathernex and then

1585
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: we're in the UK before Top of the.

1586
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: R crudging the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan

1587
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,520
Speaker 1: Bridge on the Business Hour with MAZ Motor Vehicle Insurance.

1588
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: Your future is in good hands. Used talks'd be.

1589
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: Good evening. It is twenty four away from seven. You're

1590
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: on news Talk so here'd be great to have your company.

1591
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: We're live to the UK before Top of the hour,

1592
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: a lot of reaction around the world. I mean, everybody

1593
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: knows Bondo Beach, everybody loves Bondo Beach, but the Brits

1594
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: in particular, so they've had a lot to say about

1595
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 2: that over there. Plus we will hear about what's happening

1596
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: with some Christmas and Honiker plans in Europe as a

1597
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: result of what's going on in Sydney. First though, let's

1598
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: get stuck into it, shall we. If you've got a car,

1599
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: if you drive a car, maybe you're a bit laxed

1600
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: with your waft. While the Motor Trade Association says the

1601
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 2: government's planned changes to wafts in the whole system are

1602
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: a mistake, these are the changes that will mean you

1603
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: don't have to go to get a waft as often,

1604
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: only once every two years instead of every year if

1605
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 2: your car is less than ten years old. James McDowell

1606
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 2: is head of advocacy at the MTA and joins me, now, James,

1607
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: good evening, good ending, How are you you good? Thank you? So,

1608
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: So what's wrong with this because not all I mean,

1609
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: if you think about organized, sensible people who would be

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01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 2: getting their wafts regularly and on time, they would surely

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01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,879
Speaker 2: be looking after their cars anyway, wouldn't they.

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01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 19: Well, there's a few things to that, and one is

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01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 19: that they might be good responsible drivers and looking after

1614
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 19: their vehicles, and certainly that is a good thing, particularly

1615
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 19: in between warrants. You know, keeping on tiles tires is

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 19: the most obvious thing, but as a system wide scheme,

1617
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 19: the warrant fitness, it's often about the car coming the

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01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 19: opposite direction. You know, what's the standard and the condition

1619
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 19: of the other cars on the road, how safe are they?

1620
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 19: And with the warrant regime the way it is, with

1621
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 19: the annual checks, particularly for those cars four to ten

1622
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 19: years old, that is just a nice once a year

1623
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 19: checking to ensure that things like breaks, tires, et cetera

1624
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 19: are good to go, and there are risks associated with

1625
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 19: stretching that out over two years. Particular, say a tire

1626
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 19: might be right on the limit one point six millimeters

1627
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 19: at the moment that that is a pass has to

1628
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 19: be passed, and it's debatable if that's going to last

1629
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 19: another year. Probably not, and the driver will be told,

1630
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 19: you know, you need to get those tires done soon.

1631
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 19: But you know, now you'll be looking at that and

1632
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 19: connect last another two years and the outswer that is

1633
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 19: most definitely no. So there is a safety concern in

1634
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 19: all of this.

1635
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: Okay, what proportion of cars at the moment fail on

1636
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: the you know, on the first guy of or.

1637
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 19: Off, Well, if you take out brand new cars that

1638
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 19: come off the ship, because that's a little bit unfair

1639
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 19: to include that. If you look at the general fleet,

1640
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 19: it's in the low forties, but you know, approaching forty

1641
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 19: three percent fail that that first inspection. And for those

1642
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 19: newer cars, yes, the fail rate is lower, of course,

1643
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 19: that's in between twenty and thirty one percent, and those

1644
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 19: are the ones that will be moving to two years,

1645
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 19: so the reasonable reasonable fail rates and even those brand

1646
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 19: new cars were the three year warrants, once they go

1647
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 19: for their three year checking there at about fourteen percent fail.

1648
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: Pretty bad, I would have thought, a pretty bad failure. Right,

1649
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: What are we failing on? Is? You know, is it

1650
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: actually important stuff or is it just little things?

1651
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 19: Well, I mean, obviously there's a lot to that, but

1652
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 19: it's it's serally all important if it's in the room.

1653
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 19: But it certainly tires breaks, those are the most common things. Lights,

1654
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 19: you know, underbody to an extent, whether there's any rust

1655
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 19: and so on. So but it's it's those really safety

1656
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 19: critical ones that are that are the big concern. You know,

1657
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 19: can can they be left two years? The other big

1658
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 19: main point of all of this is that the review

1659
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 19: or the proposals is pitched as a cost of living measure.

1660
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 19: You know, it'll save you the time and the hassle

1661
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 19: and the seventy bucks once a year to go get

1662
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 19: a warrant of fitness, and we get it. We know

1663
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 19: that it's a hassle, but the reality is when you

1664
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 19: let the tires run down, it just causes exponential damage.

1665
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 19: So you might save you seventy dollars, but come your

1666
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 19: next warrant, you've got to do your tires, might have

1667
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 19: to do all the tires this time, got to do

1668
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 19: your breaks, potentially, maybe there's damage to the road is

1669
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 19: Suddenly it becomes a very expensive exercise. So having these

1670
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 19: annual checks is a good way to sort of stay

1671
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 19: on top of that.

1672
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: James, are you just saying all of this because you

1673
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: work for the MTA, and the MTA's job is to

1674
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: represent the businesses that are fixing all the cars and

1675
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: selling the new ones you have still in the game.

1676
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 19: It's actually sort of the opposite isn't it, Because you know,

1677
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 19: our one thing our repairs have been saying to us,

1678
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 19: and we do in terms of inspections, our members cover

1679
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 19: about eighty percent of wolf inspections in New Zealand. But

1680
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 19: if these warrants are pushed out, particularly if they go

1681
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 19: all away four to ten years, get a two year warrant,

1682
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 19: our repairs are saying to us, actually, you know, financially

1683
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 19: be a good thing. Cars will come in with more

1684
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 19: damage and have more repairs needed, and so it's actually

1685
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 19: not such a bad thing, you know. But first and

1686
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 19: foremost have said to us, Look, safety is paramount. We

1687
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 19: see these cars, we're on the front lines and this

1688
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 19: cars that come in for their twelve months warrant and

1689
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 19: we think shee's imagine if that was on the road

1690
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 19: for another twelve months.

1691
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 2: James, appreciate your time this afternoon, James mcdale, who's with

1692
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: the Motor Trade Association. It is nineteen minutes away from

1693
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: seven o'clock. We'll get to the UK with Gavin Gray next.

1694
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

1695
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: on the business hours with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor

1696
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance.

1697
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 3: Your futures in good hands us.

1698
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 2: Talk ZEBI sixteen away from seven, we'll get to Gavin

1699
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK shortly. Lots of people texting

1700
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: in about their WAFF and someone here says, eighty nine

1701
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: dollars at vtn Z in Corpu Thames, eighty nine dollars

1702
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: for one fitness. Well, I still pay fifty dollars for Like,

1703
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: if you're just getting the warrant, I pay fifty dollars.

1704
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: This is an Auckland. Ray is my mechanic. Ray shout out,

1705
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: you're amazing, love you. Let's we could even drop that down.

1706
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: We could even get down to forty forty five or

1707
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: something like that. Anyway, we'll talk about that another time.

1708
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: But Ray's brilliant. I had to go and see him

1709
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 2: the other day because something my car. Someone has crashed

1710
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: into my car while it's been parked, and I think

1711
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 2: I know who it is, but I don't have the

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Speaker 2: kahunas to confront this person. So I'm living in an

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Speaker 2: apartment at the moment, and I park my car, you know,

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01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: like in the apartment's get numbered and you park your car,

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01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 2: and there's a guy that parks next to me that

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01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 2: has a four wheel drive, and I came out to

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Speaker 2: go to work the other morning, and there's a bloody

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Speaker 2: great dent in the side of my car and it's

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01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: got white paint or I can see white, and it's

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01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 2: like a big knock. I'm like, damn it, you know

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01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: who did this? And then I look at his car

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01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: and he has to back his in carefully to get,

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01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, to get next to mine, and the back

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01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 2: corner that matches up exactly with the height of my

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01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 2: ding has white marks on it too. So I take

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Speaker 2: photos of my car, photos of his car. I've done

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: nothing about it. I've taken it to the garage, like

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01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm getting it fixed, but I'm just gonna use my

1729
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 2: you know, I'll just pay the excess on my insurance

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01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: because I don't want to. I can't be bothered.

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01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 30: So you've done nothing about it except call this person

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Speaker 30: out on the radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, I've only recently moved into this apartment,

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01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 2: so I've never actually spoken to this person. And I mean,

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01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking about would this person know what they did,

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01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 2: because surely if you hit another car and it's quite

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01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 2: a big dent, but then it's a big use and

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01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 2: you know, those things are large, and maybe you wouldn't notice,

1739
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 2: and so because there was no note on my window. Anyway,

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01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to leave it here. If look, if you

1741
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 2: are this person then and you did do this, then

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01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 2: it would be nice if you said something. If you don't,

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01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: no worries, Okay, I'm gonna deal with it anyway. I'm

1744
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: gonna deal with it anyway because it needs to be done.

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01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes away from seven, Ryan, just get to Gavin

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01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Gray in the UK. Gavin, good evening, good morning to

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Speaker 2: you in there.

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Speaker 8: An.

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Speaker 2: How's the UK reacting to the stereo tech in Sydney, YEP.

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Speaker 23: Lots of different celebrations of Hannekah, but of course remembering

1751
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,759
Speaker 23: their lost ones in their community. In Australia, a crowd

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01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 23: of around one hundred gathered outside the Australian High Commission

1753
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 23: in central London for a vigil. People waving British Israeli flag,

1754
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 23: some just have the signs stop the hate and the rabbi.

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01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 23: One of the rabbi's attending the vigil said, don't be afraid.

1756
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 23: We should celebrate Hannekah and then at Trafalgar Square, a

1757
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 23: large manora was lit up to mark the first day

1758
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 23: of the festival, with hundreds of others also attending Hannocker

1759
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 23: events in northwest London. So there is a definite sign

1760
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 23: that there's an increased police presence in and around these

1761
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 23: events taking place. But obviously huge sadness with one of

1762
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 23: the dead victims named as a British born rabbi here

1763
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 23: with family still in London, and some tense times as well,

1764
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Speaker 23: after Benjaminette and Yaho Israeli leader comments effectively saying well,

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01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 23: there's countries where these attacks have allowed it to happen,

1766
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 23: have allowed the cancer to festa. And of course we

1767
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 23: remember back in Manchester where two people were killed in

1768
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 23: an attack on a synagogue on Yom Kippur. So a

1769
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 23: great deal of concern for the safety of Jews gathering

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01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 23: for various celebrations.

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01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and for people gathering generally in Germany. What's going

1772
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 2: on in Germany?

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01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think this story's kind of gone under the radar.

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01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 23: This is because they just haven't really advertised or put

1775
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 23: out and publicized what's been going on. But five people

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01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 23: have been arrested in Germany on suspicion of being involved

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01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 23: in a plot to drive a vehicle into people at

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Speaker 23: a Christmas market. They are three Moroccans, An Egyptian and

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01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 23: Assyrian and they've all been detained in the south of Bavaria,

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01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 23: and authorities say they do suspect an Islamist motive. According

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01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 23: to the prosecutors, the Egyptian who's a fifty six year old,

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01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 23: is alleged to called for a vehicle attack with the

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01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 23: aim of killing or injuring as many as possible, and

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01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 23: the Moroccans are allegedly agreed to carry out the event. Now,

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01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 23: the authorities don't say which market when it was planned,

1786
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 23: but the German newspaper Built is reporting the Egyptian man

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01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 23: was an imam at a mosque in the area, and

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01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 23: there are there have been a number of attacks on

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01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 23: Christmas markets in Germany, perhaps the most significant in twenty

1790
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 23: sixteen in Berlin, when a man drove a lorry into

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Speaker 23: a crowd, killing twelve people but injuring hundreds of others.

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Speaker 2: And finally, the winner of last year's Eurovision Song contests

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01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 2: said that they're going to give their trophy back.

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Speaker 20: What for?

1795
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 23: Yes Nemo says they're going to give their trophy back,

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01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 23: and that is because they don't agree with Israel's continued

1797
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 23: participation in the event. The twenty six year old Swiss

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01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 23: singer says there's a clear conflict between Israel's involvement in

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01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 23: the competition and what's going on in Gaza and the

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01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 23: ideals of unity, inclusion and dignity that the contest says

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01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 23: that it stands for now. They of course have four countries,

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01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 23: indeed five now because another one's joined them. Iceland, Spain, Ireland,

1803
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 23: Slovenia and the Netherlands have announced they were boycott next

1804
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 23: year's event because Israel has been allowed to compete. Very

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01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 23: controversial last year in Israel nearly one with a huge

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01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 23: public vote, but that was with each person allowed to

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01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 23: vote twenty times, and of course the public vote was

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01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 23: massive for Israel. And really the Eurovision bosses have got

1809
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 23: a court between a rock and a hard place there

1810
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 23: because they've decided not to ban Israel, and Germany, for instance,

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01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 23: was saying that it would boycott if they did ban Israel.

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01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 23: So they are stuck in this. You know, they should

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01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 23: all be beyond polo. But quite frankly, I don't think

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01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 23: it can be.

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01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't sound like it either. Gavin, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for that. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent with US tonight.

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Speaker 2: It is nine minutes away from seven News Talks VB.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tuples Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZBB News Talks VB.

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Speaker 2: It is seven minutes away from seven o'clock now the news.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us about Rob Reiner and his wife,

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01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: they've been found dead. This is the Hollywood director sometimes

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01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: actor as well, if you probably know his face if

1824
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 2: you see it. But he and his wife have apparently

1825
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: been murdered inside their home, big mansion in Brentwood and

1826
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 2: La murdered inside their home. And then the local journalists

1827
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 2: are reporting that it was the sun that did it.

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01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 2: The cops haven't confirmed any of that yet, but they're

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01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: just saying at the stage they're investigating. And they got

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01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: a call about three point thirty in the afternoon, seventy

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01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 2: eight year old man and a sixty eight year old

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01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: woman were dead inside. So very very sad. When Harry

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01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 2: met Sally a couple of other movies you would probably

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01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 2: know he was either directing or part in part acting

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01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 2: in as well. News Talk said, B we will leave

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01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: you what are we going out with tonight?

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01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 30: Ants Garden of Eden by Lady Gaga to play us

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01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 30: out tonight, Ryan. So, Lady Gaga has just finished up

1839
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 30: her Mayhem Ball tour in Australia. Actually she her last

1840
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 30: show was at Sydney's a Core Stadium on Saturday, and

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01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 30: there was a bit of a There was a bit

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01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 30: of a drama during this song because one of the

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01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 30: backup dancers fell off stage. Apparently it was raining out

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01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 30: at the Course Stadium and so the stage got all

1845
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,839
Speaker 30: slippery and so they slipped off the stage. But luckily

1846
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 30: nothing bad happened. Lady Gaga saw it happen, and so

1847
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 30: she quickly waved and said, hey, we need to stop

1848
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 30: the song, ran up and checked that the dancer was okay,

1849
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 30: said and he said on Instagram afterwards his name is

1850
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 30: Michael Demeski, that he was fine. So he was able

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01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 30: to basically just get back on stage and keep dancing.

1852
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 30: But then there was another delay later in the show

1853
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 30: when she got her dancers to swap footwear for something

1854
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 30: that was less slippery. So the go practical.

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01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 2: Ah, well, I mean yeah, it doesn't make much sense

1856
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,520
Speaker 2: if it's raining to be gyrating around a star wet stage.

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01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 30: That everyone's paid. You know, they've paid their money. If

1858
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 30: she'd taken it to Forsyth Bar Stadium in Duneda. Now

1859
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 30: they've got a roof rightout. Have been a problem, wouldn't it.

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01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 30: Lady Gaga, if you're listening, do.

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Speaker 2: You know a friend you showed me the other day

1862
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: that there's this the heat seeking equipment that they've got

1863
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 2: and they put it on the pop stars as they're singing,

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01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 2: as they're belting out these big notes, and they reckon

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01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 2: that you can actually I can't believe I'm saying this,

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01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 2: but that they're actually passing wind as there, because if

1867
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: you can imagine doing the big, chesty, big solos, that

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01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 2: they pass a lot of wind, and they've got a

1869
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 2: particular camera and they put it all over Instagram and TikTok.

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01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: They reckon they can tell when these pop stars are

1871
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 2: passing gas.

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Speaker 30: I mean, I think that's the real thing, Rhinos. If

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01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 30: someone invented a camera that you can point at your

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01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 30: coworker and know whether they farted or not, that's agreeing

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01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 30: the lead here.

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01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, meat, Well, if you did go to you

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Speaker 2: go across the Testament, I hope you enjoyed it. From

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Speaker 2: what I've heard all accounts, it was brilliant. See you tomorrow, everyone, Tuesday.

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Speaker 14: Use talks it Big.

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Speaker 5: Up here.

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