Speaker 1: Caldercot. Welcome to the b YC.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Export Bear Garden Studio and welcome to
Speaker 2: the ACC headquarters. I'm Paul Ford, godfather of the Pagema
Speaker 2: Gaid and today we are getting fired up for the
Speaker 2: English and Welsh crusade of New Zealand that is underway
Speaker 2: in Queenstown.
Speaker 1: They have landed.
Speaker 2: We're sniffing around the border Gaviscar series. We're checking on
Speaker 2: the planket shield and we get some cricket violence right
Speaker 2: between the eyes and reflect on the monsoon magnet.
Speaker 1: That is a cricket series in Sri Lanka. No Jason Hoyt.
Speaker 2: Today as he recovers from his boxing debut over the
Speaker 2: weekend were he lost on points to Joe Biden and
Speaker 2: a disgraceful woman about ahead of his fight against Mike
Speaker 2: Tyson and a g string on boxing day. But we
Speaker 2: do have our pleasy, didn't they of the fantastic scoop
Speaker 2: making the Bounce newsleader Dylan Clever with us today.
Speaker 1: Dylan, how the hell are you?
Speaker 3: I'm very good, Thank you, Paul. Thanks for the kind introduction.
Speaker 1: We'll get into one of those scoops in a bit. Look.
Speaker 1: First off, I reckon.
Speaker 2: We should have a look at this one day International
Speaker 2: series over in Sri Lanka that succumbed to the rain
Speaker 2: gods and Pala Kelly overnight. Not quite the same success
Speaker 2: as New Zealand enjoyed in the drawn T twenty series.
Speaker 2: But can we take much out of these performances from
Speaker 2: what is essentially a development squad really in a series
Speaker 2: of three rain affected matches.
Speaker 3: Very little can we take out of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Look, they went to the first one in dan Burler,
Speaker 3: which was a follow on from the T twenty series.
Speaker 3: They got hammered there. Let's be fair on Duckworth Lewis
Speaker 3: by forty five runs. Sri Lanka scored three hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty four for five. New Zealand could only get one
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five for nine in return off twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Again rain affected in Pala Kelly first game, but New
Speaker 3: Zealand fell short with two hundred and nine didn't beat
Speaker 3: out there forty seven overs and then Shri Lanka struggled
Speaker 3: to chase that down two hundred and ten for seven.
Speaker 3: And then finally last night I was all excitedly watching
Speaker 3: well Young and Harvey Nichols. You know, look quite comfortable
Speaker 3: until the spinners came on. They certainly comfortable against pace
Speaker 3: and one hundred and twelve to one, it was all over.
Speaker 3: And really the talking point is we keep going to
Speaker 3: Sri Lanka and we keep getting rained on.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Have you been into the history box on that or
Speaker 2: are you just saying that was of your head?
Speaker 3: It felt so awfully familiar, I thought I would do
Speaker 3: some geekery and the first thing that surprised me was
Speaker 3: that it's actually the first bilateral One Day series we've
Speaker 3: paid there in eleven years. But I want my suspicions were.
Speaker 1: It seems like Sri Lanka's played in New Zealand every
Speaker 1: year four eleven years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so in twenty thirteen it was a
Speaker 3: three months match series. The first one in hand Them
Speaker 3: Totter was no result, second one, same venue was twenty
Speaker 3: three overs per team. The third one in dan Buller
Speaker 3: was a thirty three over versus twenty five over Duckworth
Speaker 3: Lewis affair. In twenty twelve we had a four match
Speaker 3: ODII series. The first at Pala Kelly was fifty overs
Speaker 3: versus twenty three on Duckworth Lewis. The second the second
Speaker 3: at Pala Kelly was a thirty three over a side
Speaker 3: match that was also decided on Duckworth Lewis. The third
Speaker 3: at ham bent Tota was thirty two overs versus twenty seven,
Speaker 3: again decided on Duckworth Lewis. Sri Lanka won all three
Speaker 3: of those Duckworth Lewis, but the crown and glory was
Speaker 3: the fourth one at Hambantota which was no result and
Speaker 3: then the previous series, so that was a tri series
Speaker 3: in Sri Lanka. I think he might have involved int
Speaker 3: you as well. And the New Zealand's match was Sri
Speaker 3: Lanka in that tri series at dan Buller was no result.
Speaker 1: God, that's extraordinary. So that's three six ' ten. That's
Speaker 1: eleven rain affected matches in a row.
Speaker 3: The past eleven, Odie Eyes and Sri Lanka have all
Speaker 3: been rain affected and Sri Lanka won the vast majority
Speaker 3: of them on Duckworth lows.
Speaker 1: That is preposterous.
Speaker 2: It's also ridiculous that we haven't won any of those
Speaker 2: games on duck with Lowis.
Speaker 1: But I guess we.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't dwell on that God that is there, that is well,
Speaker 2: we should just not go at this time. But I
Speaker 2: guess we don't call the shots.
Speaker 3: There's another curiosity in that as well, that every single
Speaker 3: venue of that and there's that eleven match streak is
Speaker 3: up in the highlands, there's no there's no gaull od
Speaker 3: I or Columbo. All up in the hills, the rain
Speaker 3: rolls in that gets I don't know, perhaps nothing much
Speaker 3: goes on there and they think, well, we'll give them
Speaker 3: the New Zealand.
Speaker 2: To be fair, some of the crowds look quite fired up.
Speaker 2: I quite enjoyed the crowds. They look quite lively, beautiful,
Speaker 2: lively than the pictures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, there was nothing to take out
Speaker 3: of it other than I think the major difference in
Speaker 3: that the two teams was Sri Lanka was far closer
Speaker 3: to the full strength and New Zealand was and their
Speaker 3: spinner's economy rates with far superior like lysa Thik Sharner
Speaker 3: and Jeffrey Vandersay were far more effective at keeping the
Speaker 3: runs in check. I don't know, can you take anything
Speaker 3: out of Will Young bettered Nicey. I guess I compiled
Speaker 3: as last. I think his last eleven Odie eyes. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you can remember, but that game of
Speaker 3: the World Cup opener that New Zealand one and Conway
Speaker 3: and Ravendra had got big tons and they thresht England
Speaker 3: and that same game Will Young was strangled down leg side.
Speaker 3: I think it might have been a first ball duck,
Speaker 3: you know, hellishly unlucky. Since then, he's compiled seventy to
Speaker 3: fifty four, seventeen, thirty two, thirty three, one hundred and five,
Speaker 3: eighty nine, twenty six, forty eight, twenty six and fifty
Speaker 3: six not out. So he has been amazing, amazingly consistent
Speaker 3: and ODII cricket. Does that count for much these days?
Speaker 3: That's a question I'll throw to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look, look, look I'll be I think it does.
Speaker 2: I think it does, and it's great to see, you
Speaker 2: know that he is putting together a record. I mean obviously,
Speaker 2: so obviously he's the next cap off the rank, but
Speaker 2: it's also a sign that he's not getting bored and frustrated,
Speaker 2: that he just.
Speaker 1: Keeps on putting those numbers up. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: good on them.
Speaker 2: I think he averaged sixty five in the series, But
Speaker 2: for comparison, I think coustial Menus was averaging two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifteen or something, and I think Fernando was fifty
Speaker 2: odd so yeah, look he was. He was probably the
Speaker 2: second best better in the in the series. But I
Speaker 2: don't think there's a hell of a lot anyone else
Speaker 2: got out of it. A few other scores. I think
Speaker 2: Chapman got a he got a seventy odd I think yeah.
Speaker 3: I think he got a top scorer in the series
Speaker 3: for New Zealand. And Nichols got some nice enough forty
Speaker 3: odds last night when he had been really struggling coming
Speaker 3: off the back of a very poor for trophy, which
Speaker 3: again raised questions as to how he managed to find
Speaker 3: himself in this New Zealand Odie Ice squad and then
Speaker 3: failures in the first two games. He would have been
Speaker 3: feeling some heat. So and he looked nice actually, in fact,
Speaker 3: when the spinners came on, he looked more accomplished than
Speaker 3: Young did last night. But jeep, some of those shots
Speaker 3: Young played off the pacemen were just mint.
Speaker 1: Saw a beautiful straight drive that I was doing. The
Speaker 1: dishes sensational and it.
Speaker 3: Does make you realize just what a fine talent he is.
Speaker 3: And again it's that his New Zealand cricket maximized it.
Speaker 3: And I think the answer is probably resounding.
Speaker 1: No, he looked like he was having a bloody good
Speaker 1: time in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I had, I had one eye, you know, on him,
Speaker 2: and you talked about it.
Speaker 1: I think last week, you know, a little not.
Speaker 2: Not a swagger per se, but a confidence, And I
Speaker 2: thought I thought we could see that last night as
Speaker 2: he was out there with with Nichols, as we were
Speaker 2: hoping that they wouldn't run each other out in some
Speaker 2: sort of act of malicious malevolence.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, one guy that I thought would have been annoyed
Speaker 2: at his series as Tim Robinson, you know, way down.
Speaker 1: I think he was just looking here, what did he get? Average?
Speaker 2: Sixteen forty eight runs off forty seven balls.
Speaker 1: And one of those scores was thirty five.
Speaker 2: So it took a couple of failures and Glenn Phillips
Speaker 2: was a little bit out of sorts too, but yeah,
Speaker 2: look I agree with you, but Young looked sublime until
Speaker 2: the heavens opened.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the bowling it was Michael Bracewall. He did
Speaker 1: some good things.
Speaker 2: I think he was top of the wickets and so on,
Speaker 2: but yeah, not a hell of a lot to really take.
Speaker 2: And given the how few overs were played across the thing,
Speaker 2: that series.
Speaker 3: I thought Bracewall was the time you reminder that the
Speaker 3: guy can play cricket, right you mentioned last week He's
Speaker 3: just an unreal fielder. He's a sensational fielder. He was
Speaker 3: too expensive though, but he was a wicket taking option.
Speaker 3: But you watch the difference between him and Think Channer.
Speaker 3: And I know Thik Channer's got the Karen ball, the
Speaker 3: big arm ball, something that Bracewall and the New Zealand
Speaker 3: spinners don't zest. But I did feel like they leaked
Speaker 3: too many runs. Mind you, csemendous Is was batting out
Speaker 3: of this world and home conditions. So but yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean it was a time you reminder that Michael Bracewall
Speaker 3: was still there. You're still part of that burgeoning, finger
Speaker 3: spinning list of options we've got.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure any of them will well. Before that
Speaker 3: India Test series, I wasn't sure that any of them
Speaker 3: were world class. But you know, join the Q now
Speaker 3: braces behind Len Phillips, a Jaz Mitchell Santner.
Speaker 1: Lovely problem to have.
Speaker 2: Hey, DC, let's take a break and when we come back,
Speaker 2: let's get stuck into the New Zealand Test squad. I
Speaker 2: think you did pretty well on your guestimates for the squad.
Speaker 1: We'll be back shortly. Welcome back to the b y C.
Speaker 2: It's Paul Ford and Dylan Cleaver coming to you today.
Speaker 2: And Dylan, the New Zealand Test squad was named this week.
Speaker 2: Do you want to give us a rundown on that
Speaker 2: and maybe any any points of interest, anything surprising in there.
Speaker 2: I think you guessed pretty well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So the squad is Lathan Captain, Blundle Wicker Keeper,
Speaker 3: Conway Duffy, Henry Mitchell, O'Rourke, Phillips, Ravendra, Nathan Smith, Tim
Speaker 3: Southy Caine, Williamson, will Young and Mitchell Santon will come
Speaker 3: in for the second and thirdest in Wellington Hamilton and
Speaker 3: one of those pace bowlers will drop out of the squad.
Speaker 3: There's two uncapped players in that team, which is Duffy
Speaker 3: and Nathan Smith. And yeah, I had a punt at
Speaker 3: picking the thirteen slash fourteen and for some reason I
Speaker 3: should have got all fourteen, but for some reason I
Speaker 3: didn't have Nathan Smith, although I had this funny feeling
Speaker 3: he was right there in the mix and I actually
Speaker 3: thought they might have an extra spinner as a kind
Speaker 3: of stock bowler slash deep in the batting lineup for
Speaker 3: christ Church as well. I thought Santna would be in
Speaker 3: for all three on the back of what he did
Speaker 3: in India and the fact they love him. You know,
Speaker 3: he offers leadership, he offers the potential of runs down
Speaker 3: the order fields brilliantly and can bolve very tightly. But
Speaker 3: they brought him in for the second and third Test
Speaker 3: and have Smith in for the first one. So I
Speaker 3: guess the points of interest really are Nathan Smith. Do
Speaker 3: they crow bar them into that first Test lineup ahead
Speaker 3: of Duffy or do they play just the three seamers
Speaker 3: and both Duffy and Smith's on the sidelines. And of
Speaker 3: course Sally announced Manning official that this will be his
Speaker 3: last Test series barring qualification for the World Test Championship,
Speaker 3: which would be a final in Lords, during which he
Speaker 3: would make himself available for clearly no guarantees of selection.
Speaker 2: I'm also available for selection for that as well. Yeah, look,
Speaker 2: it's interesting to see Nathan Smith in there. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: really does feel like it's a duel for that fourth
Speaker 2: semi spot. You know, I've put my cards on the
Speaker 2: table last week. I'd love to see Will Young in there.
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that the New Zealand selectors
Speaker 2: are going to do that. I think that with came back,
Speaker 2: they're going to want to have those four seemers, And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's going to be an interesting decision. I guess in
Speaker 2: terms of seniority, you would expect that Duffy would.
Speaker 1: Be given a shot.
Speaker 2: But it does seem like they like the cut of
Speaker 2: Nathan Smith's jib and if they're looking for a bit
Speaker 2: more batting insurance, then you know, you you suspect that
Speaker 2: a guy down the order betting at number eight who
Speaker 2: can bash it around could could be pretty handy. So yeah,
Speaker 2: look it's a it's again a good conundrum for the selectors. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you called the center thing. I guess, were you thinking
Speaker 2: maybe Bracewall might be in there? Is it who you
Speaker 2: were thinking might sort of?
Speaker 3: No, I she thought was Handton would be in for
Speaker 3: the start and they might bring a js ptel and
Speaker 3: got for an extra spin option. Probably wouldn't use them,
Speaker 3: but just to have them there in case they roll
Speaker 3: up to seven Park and get the similar wicket that
Speaker 3: they got in South Africa. We're here last summer and
Speaker 3: rolled up to Wellington and get a similar wicket they
Speaker 3: had when Nathan Lyon and Glenn Phillips were the two
Speaker 3: most effective bowlers at the base and last summer, which
Speaker 3: nobody anticipated. And I still find it hard to believe
Speaker 3: that you're going to find a wicket like that in
Speaker 3: November in Wellington, but who knows. But look, I actually
Speaker 3: totally agree with you. This whole fourth seema thing feels
Speaker 3: again and we use this work quite often when describing
Speaker 3: a Gary Stead's side, but it feels slightly dogmatic and
Speaker 3: that you go to Christus, you go to have the
Speaker 3: over and you have to play four seamas. I think
Speaker 3: what we tend to forget is that when New Zealand
Speaker 3: we're at the most effective doing that, the fourth seamers
Speaker 3: were Jamison Wagner, Bolt or Saudi and they had Colin
Speaker 3: de Gronholm as your backup who was a genuine number
Speaker 3: seven guy who's capable of scoring Test centuries. Colinder Grondholm
Speaker 3: is your fourth seema is a lot different than Nathan Smith,
Speaker 3: your four seema where you have or Jacob Duffy where
Speaker 3: you have to you're lengthening the tail and to be
Speaker 3: I'm fear of Nathan Smith. I haven't seen enough from bat.
Speaker 3: I do know he's capable with the bat, but there's
Speaker 3: a difference between being capable of the bat first class
Speaker 3: level and being capable with the bat when you're faced
Speaker 3: with you know, at chest attack. They are not the
Speaker 3: strongest English Test attack you can ever come across, but
Speaker 3: still a good chest attack. So yeah, look they did
Speaker 3: it last summer with Scott Coogar. Liners have four seamer.
Speaker 3: He barely bold. He did slog a few runs in
Speaker 3: one of the innings here, but I'm like you, I'd
Speaker 3: actually rather see them play Will Young, make that batting
Speaker 3: lineup really strong and say to Sally Henry all yours guys,
Speaker 3: go get it done, Go get it done.
Speaker 2: The other interesting piece of context around this, and I
Speaker 2: don't know whether this changes anything, is obviously New Zealand
Speaker 2: has to win effectively to stay in the running, and
Speaker 2: you know there's different permutations and whatever, but basically New
Speaker 2: Zealand needs to win this series three mel to give
Speaker 2: themselves a shot at that World Test Championship final. So
Speaker 2: I guess I was thinking about this, and you could
Speaker 2: argue that picking four seamas is a more aggressive option
Speaker 2: if you're trying to win a Test match.
Speaker 3: But if it all seems effective.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: And if your fourth seamer is as you say, it's
Speaker 2: a I think I can't if you said Matt Henry
Speaker 2: in there as well, but you know what an embarrassment
Speaker 2: of Richards having Henry, Jamison and yeah de grondeom all
Speaker 2: in the mix for selection, which you know we're not
Speaker 2: in that position anymore.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I don't know who.
Speaker 2: England would look at and go we would rather face
Speaker 2: Duffy or we would rather face Smith. He's probably reasonably
Speaker 2: familiar to a lot of them. Obviously McCullum would know
Speaker 2: them both well. Jim Pattel's been in and around that
Speaker 2: team as well, he would have some pretty decent insights
Speaker 2: in Both of them have played county cricket.
Speaker 1: I actually heard.
Speaker 2: NASA the saying say, just as an aside, that Nathan
Speaker 2: Smith was his the local pro at his at Radlett
Speaker 2: in Hertfordshire before he ended up going off and playing,
Speaker 2: getting sort of scaled up and going and playing.
Speaker 1: Was it for what's the ship? What's the source?
Speaker 2: I think it was anyway, Yeah, someone described him as yep,
Speaker 2: get him in the get him in the main team
Speaker 2: because he wacks it and he bolves quick, which is
Speaker 2: quite a nice, quite a pithy description for for Smith.
Speaker 1: But yeah, look it's a it's a it's a bit
Speaker 1: of an interesting one in terms of I am intrigue.
Speaker 3: I would like to see him, actually, you know, I
Speaker 3: am intrigued by what Nathan Smith can offer. I just
Speaker 3: hope they're confident that he will be a genuine option
Speaker 3: and you know, just not the spear preck that spends
Speaker 3: most of his time a third man.
Speaker 1: And yes, yeah, exactly exactly as you.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have a bit more of a chat about
Speaker 2: I think there's some correspondence about Kanes. Maybe we'll come
Speaker 2: back to that one. But I guess the big news
Speaker 2: in this whole squad naming was Tim southy sensational career
Speaker 2: coming to a close for New Zealand and DC.
Speaker 1: You had a pretty decent scoop on this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you probably read it first in the bounce.
Speaker 2: To be.
Speaker 3: Brutally honest, it was not that hard to anticipate. I
Speaker 3: think the writing was on the wall as soon as
Speaker 3: he handed the captaincy back. That was the signal that
Speaker 3: selection was no longer guaranteed. He wouldn't have played every
Speaker 3: you know, if they had the Afghanis Sand Test as
Speaker 3: well in India, I think, you know, there was a
Speaker 3: chance that he probably looking to play maybe four of
Speaker 3: those Tests overseas. I think Gary said signal that he
Speaker 3: wouldn't be playing every Test as it was. He got
Speaker 3: too in India. I think he got both in Sri Lanka.
Speaker 3: So that sounds about right, and it's the right time.
Speaker 3: And there's just has been a lack of wickets. There's
Speaker 3: no other way of putting it. You know, he's still
Speaker 3: bowling a relatively nice shape with the new ball for
Speaker 3: a couple of overs, but there doesn't seem to be
Speaker 3: any punch when he comes back for those second and
Speaker 3: third spells. He's used more as a holding bowler. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it just feels like the timing is right.
Speaker 3: It's probably not his choice. But look, you go through
Speaker 3: some of those numbers and there's a whole list here,
Speaker 3: should we go through them? I mean, only Fleming Victorian
Speaker 3: Taylor have played more than as one hundred and four Tests.
Speaker 3: He's got the most teach winy wickets by any human
Speaker 3: alive or dead. He's got the most Test wins by
Speaker 3: a New Zealander at forty six. He's got the most
Speaker 3: international wickets by a New Zealander. I think it's seven
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy international wickets. He's got the second most
Speaker 3: Test wickets behind him. Ay, he's got the third most
Speaker 3: ODI wickets behind for Tory and Mills, is it? I think? So?
Speaker 3: I should have checked that really, And my favorite stat
Speaker 3: of all, he's got the six most sixes in Test
Speaker 3: history with ninety three and cheap as I hope he
Speaker 3: swings for the hills and goes for one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixes of this series. It's all over.
Speaker 2: And I know we should be talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: his seven for sixty four at Bengaluru and six.
Speaker 1: For forty three and six for fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Lords and you know all these these sensational bowling figures
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, But how good is
Speaker 2: the sixers?
Speaker 1: Thing?
Speaker 2: Like when you look at the company that he is
Speaker 2: rubbing shoulders with in there, Stokes, McCullum, Gilchrist, Gaale keallous
Speaker 2: Seywag Sharma, Lara, Ken's, Richard's, it's amazing, amazing company. And
Speaker 2: I know you've got a couple more stats, but I
Speaker 2: do love the three hundred Test wickets two hundred one
Speaker 2: Day wickets and one hundred T twenty International wickets. That's
Speaker 2: that's a good insight into his hosatility and commitment to
Speaker 2: New Zealand.
Speaker 3: Frankly, yeah, and he's one of only twenty five players
Speaker 3: to have the two thousand runs in two hundred chest
Speaker 3: wickets and another one of my favorite stats. And it
Speaker 3: feels like I'm cheapening his legacy here a little bit
Speaker 3: with batting stats when he was clearly a bowler who
Speaker 3: could swing the willow a little bit. But only two
Speaker 3: players have scored as many Test runs as him without
Speaker 3: scoring a century. Can you name them?
Speaker 2: Well, I reckon, I'm worn, I feel as one of
Speaker 2: the two. But geez, I'm really struggling on the second one.
Speaker 2: I'm god, I can't even I can't even think. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That the sort of Lance Kenes or is
Speaker 2: it someone really sort of niche out of the subcontinent.
Speaker 1: I just don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm very niche out of the sub continent. It was
Speaker 3: the tree Link and work Keeper Narish and Dick Weller.
Speaker 1: Geez, well, that's not quite as a illustrious company.
Speaker 2: I feel like dick Weller's punching above his weight there
Speaker 2: being in there with Southern and warned to be honest.
Speaker 1: But yeah, a sensational career.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure as we as we see things unfold
Speaker 2: over the next few weeks, it be great to reflect
Speaker 2: on some of those magnificent performances from Timseuth and hopefully
Speaker 2: he's got another one to give us over there, or another,
Speaker 2: in fact, another six to give us.
Speaker 3: It can't you reflect on something right now? Though? And
Speaker 3: this is something that bothers me a little bit, And
Speaker 3: it's on the comments of my news letter all the
Speaker 3: time as well, and I hear it on talkback. He's
Speaker 3: got all these incredible numbers. He was always available. He
Speaker 3: made it very very clear that he put playing for
Speaker 3: his country above anything else, and yet he's never quite
Speaker 3: had the universal adoration in a way that a had
Speaker 3: the Bond, or even Bolt and Wagner had. You did
Speaker 3: you get that sense, and if so, do you have
Speaker 3: any kind of reasons or any theories as to why
Speaker 3: that might be?
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's an interesting reflection. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: feel like that.
Speaker 1: I mean I do.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the point of what you say,
Speaker 2: but I do feel like he has not muddled. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think so not let himself down, but I
Speaker 2: guess not tarnished, because it makes it sound like he's done.
Speaker 2: He's been bad, but the last couple of years have
Speaker 2: been tough going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and you know, the best will in
Speaker 1: the world and so on.
Speaker 2: It's just been really hard to keep backing his selection
Speaker 2: in the team and it's felt bad.
Speaker 1: I think we've acknowledged it on here.
Speaker 2: It's a horrible feeling to have this guy that's literally
Speaker 2: given Parfa's life to playing for New Zealand very deliberately,
Speaker 2: I think, has turned down a lot of the riches
Speaker 2: going on around the world in terms of t twenties
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's just given as guts.
Speaker 1: But it's an interesting point.
Speaker 2: And I guess for a long time he was that
Speaker 2: that duo with Trent Bolt, and maybe that's the maybe
Speaker 2: that's the root of this of this feeling, you know.
Speaker 2: I think in Bolt, I think Trent Bolt's favorite bowler
Speaker 2: was was he Macram Tim So Howthy's favorite bowler was
Speaker 2: Glen McGrath.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's kind of.
Speaker 2: That there's something in that that this kind of more Bolt,
Speaker 2: I think more of an extrovert, more of an outgoing guy,
Speaker 2: sort of laughing when he's out there, intensely competitive, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure Tim is exactly the same on that front,
Speaker 2: just more of a more of a hype man, whereas
Speaker 2: I feel like Tim's now he's a public persona is
Speaker 2: more reserved and more low key and a bit more surly,
Speaker 2: and you know, he's that sort of calming influence. So yeah, look,
Speaker 2: I just think that public persona is quite is just
Speaker 2: quite different. I mean everything you read about those both
Speaker 2: of those guys actually, but you know, Tim feels like
Speaker 2: he's a real alpha in that New Zealand dressing room. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like lots of these New Zealand sports people, you
Speaker 2: do wonder whether he just pulls the shutters down a
Speaker 2: little bit when he heads out into public.
Speaker 3: He's never been there polished in front of a camera
Speaker 3: or a dictaphone, has he. It's always been he started
Speaker 3: off for your Shakxi just to cut off Northland Farm
Speaker 3: that kind of a little bit, I think, when you
Speaker 3: know he maybe wasn't living up to his potential early
Speaker 3: and he had a little bit of a reputation as
Speaker 3: a party boy, which I don't think was ever totally justified.
Speaker 3: I think there were elements of this story that might
Speaker 3: have been true, But from what I've been told, he's
Speaker 3: never been a big drinker, never lived a life of
Speaker 3: excess la kind of your Jesse Ryders, Doug Bracewells, that
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, like, he was always very dedicated
Speaker 3: to the team and fitness. But I think that stuck
Speaker 3: a little bit and I think it made him a
Speaker 3: little bit weary from there. And after that, as you say,
Speaker 3: I think shutters came down and the public really never
Speaker 3: saw a totally Tim Southey who was totally engaged with them,
Speaker 3: totally engaged with the cricket, totally engaged with the team,
Speaker 3: but not that front facing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like one of those guys that's accidentally
Speaker 2: famous and doesn't really dine out on it very much.
Speaker 1: You know, it was probably trying to keep a low profile.
Speaker 2: I mean, I had not a huge you know, I
Speaker 2: don't follow thousands of cricketers on Instagram and so on.
Speaker 2: But my sense is that trump Bolt will be a
Speaker 2: lot more you know, living it up.
Speaker 1: Through through those mediums than Tim Sally would.
Speaker 2: And I love both of them, you know, it's just
Speaker 2: a different approach, But I do think that, yeah, that
Speaker 2: extroverted personality of trump Bolt maybe lends itself to being
Speaker 2: more sort of beloved by the New Zealand public. And
Speaker 2: it's sort of wrong because you know, if you're going
Speaker 2: to go on the things that the cricket followers really
Speaker 2: really want, it's that commitment to New Zealand, and I
Speaker 2: think Tim's absolutely top of the heap on that front.
Speaker 3: Is he in your Four Pillars of New Zealand past bowling?
Speaker 3: More importantly, he absolutely is.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, the Mount Rushmore of New Zealand paste bowling
Speaker 2: for me was is Hadley, Southy, Bolt and Bond with
Speaker 2: cheating here honorable mentions Wagner, Morrison and Martin.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's that's interesting. I think we've got something
Speaker 3: very similar. But I also cheated. I mean, Sir j
Speaker 3: had I mean that goes without saying he is. He's
Speaker 3: not just the pillar or the Mount Rushmore. He's going.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Mount Rushmore was on his farm.
Speaker 1: It's on his land, it's on his.
Speaker 3: Orchid orchard, and he's also commissioned the sculptor as well.
Speaker 1: And he is selling photos of it for ninety nine
Speaker 1: to ninety five.
Speaker 3: Exactly with explicit instructions to make his just a little
Speaker 3: bit larger than the rest of the sculptures. So him,
Speaker 3: I've got term and trend. They almost come as a
Speaker 3: package deal, and I was thinking about doing that as
Speaker 3: a package deal, but no, they are separate. But the
Speaker 3: tour really struggled with were how do I shoe horn
Speaker 3: Jack Cowie and Shane Bond into the four pillars. Shane
Speaker 3: Bond I saw nearly every delivery he bowled, and he
Speaker 3: was a phenomenon, but he just wasn't available that often.
Speaker 2: There was the cricket fastest New Zealand had a fifty
Speaker 2: Test wickets and what eighteen tests eighty seven wickets, stress
Speaker 2: for rictures to feat in backs and knee injuries and
Speaker 2: ic El Shenanigan's.
Speaker 3: You know, never bowling innings in Test cricket where he
Speaker 3: didn't take a wicket, which is quite remarkable. Like the
Speaker 3: guy was a gift, but he was a gift that
Speaker 3: was snatched away from us all too often. And look,
Speaker 3: it's a similar story with Jack Cowie. And I think
Speaker 3: it was Wisdom Magazine said of or the Bible of
Speaker 3: Cricket said of Jack Cowie. Had he been Australian. He
Speaker 3: might have been termed a wonder of the age.
Speaker 1: Gee, that is my praise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the guy only played nine tests. I
Speaker 3: never saw it, clearly, I never saw it. His career
Speaker 3: was between the two Tours of England of thirty seven
Speaker 3: and forty nine. By the time he was on the
Speaker 3: forty nine tour, I think he was a little bit
Speaker 3: beyond past his best, but I think he's still averaged.
Speaker 3: It seemed like twenty six per wicket on that tour.
Speaker 3: Len Hatton said he was just dynamite quick, with a
Speaker 3: spitting copra of an off break and a playing the
Speaker 3: ball away. I think how he got Manhattan, who was
Speaker 3: one of the great all time, for zero in one
Speaker 3: in his Lord's debut, So yeah, terrific. So I'm putting
Speaker 3: those in there because they played so seldom. They make
Speaker 3: up one of my pillars.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, right, they're sort of doing one hundred tests collectively,
Speaker 2: sort of thing fifty plus or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2: I've got also Jason Hoyt's text through his Matt Rushmore
Speaker 2: and see what you think of this. Dale Hadley, Chris Pringle,
Speaker 2: Derek Sterling, Martin Sneden, honorable mention Ben Lister.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that sounds a lot like Jason Hoyt.
Speaker 3: He's a massive fan of Martin Steden. Obviously he loves
Speaker 3: the windmill action.
Speaker 2: Chris Springle thirty wickets at forty six. Dale Hadley seventy
Speaker 2: one wickets, not bad ye at thirty but best bowling
Speaker 2: four for thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Dale Hadley was poised to be a star as well,
Speaker 3: and then he put his foot in a lawmar or something.
Speaker 3: They got a horrific injury just as he was at
Speaker 3: his peak. The late Derek Sterling, a fantastic CD servant,
Speaker 3: pushed off the pickets of Fitzerbert Park, his home ground.
Speaker 3: But yeah, interesting choices. Hey, I've got a bit of
Speaker 3: correspondence for you here. It's from Dylan Dylan Nielsen. Hey, guys,
Speaker 3: I couldn't help but notice the buyc and the bounds broke.
Speaker 3: The news of Tim Salle's retirement last week, which was
Speaker 3: kind of expected. Slightly more worrying was Paul's confident declaration
Speaker 3: there would also be Kane's last Test series. Was this
Speaker 3: idle speculation or should I brace myself for the worst
Speaker 3: of all news? Love the show, don't go missing from
Speaker 3: a month again, please.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, absolutely no inside information very much,
Speaker 2: just a sort of a vibe thing really. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just look at his ongoing injuries. I look at
Speaker 2: the fact he's got three young kids, he's got an
Speaker 2: English wife.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's baggeral test cricket coming out.
Speaker 2: I looked at yeah, exactly. I look at the schedule.
Speaker 2: We play England, then there's potentially the World Test Championship.
Speaker 2: I think that there's some barbwey test matches. We've got,
Speaker 2: only got the West Indies next summer. It doesn't give
Speaker 2: him a lot to cling onto. And I just just
Speaker 2: it was just a spidy census thing, to be honest,
Speaker 2: you know, folding a couple of other things. You know,
Speaker 2: the captaincy changed, Tom Latham's in there, Tom Latham and
Speaker 2: Gary Stead. There's an axis there. He's off to the
Speaker 2: South African Premier League. So you know he's obviously key
Speaker 2: to play, but sort of play in other ways. And
Speaker 2: start to see a bit more activity around his business interests.
Speaker 2: I think he's involved in apples, he's involved in I
Speaker 2: think I saw Kombucher.
Speaker 3: So yeah, local kom Butcher brew not beare yeah.
Speaker 2: A couple of yeah, the last couple of couple of months,
Speaker 2: and then I don't want to I've got no sense
Speaker 2: of the timing on this, but you know, I saw
Speaker 2: him in the nets at Hamilton before the Planket Shield
Speaker 2: game that he's playing currently, and it seemed to me
Speaker 2: that like Tim Soudy was, you know, just like he
Speaker 2: seemed unburdened, and he seemed quite flippant and quite loose,
Speaker 2: and he said some quite poignant things, you know, talking
Speaker 2: about agent stage and obviously kind of reflecting on to
Speaker 2: Southey's career alongside his mortality.
Speaker 3: During that he.
Speaker 2: Did he did contemplate his own mortality and yeah, coaches,
Speaker 2: I think that B and D and it just made
Speaker 2: me think, just slip out the side door, that he
Speaker 2: wouldn't want thunder from Tim, I wouldn't want a song
Speaker 2: and dance, but everything we can to make sure he's
Speaker 2: here at least till next summer surely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, worryingly, I think you might be onder something there.
Speaker 3: And again, this is the top of the head stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it sound like I've got
Speaker 3: a connection into the Williamson family or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I haven't, but there was a couple of things that
Speaker 3: give me hope that he might press on and and
Speaker 3: one of them is they're on his casual contract. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's an all time great, he's New Zealand Cricket's McCaw
Speaker 3: and the way he carries himself and the way he
Speaker 3: goes about it, and because he's on this casual contract,
Speaker 3: you can actually taylor his calendar to what he wants
Speaker 3: to do effectively. I know that might not go down
Speaker 3: well with everyone, and I know he might himself feel
Speaker 3: that that's taking the past, but that's kind of what
Speaker 3: they've been doing for the past four years. Anyway. He's
Speaker 3: missed a lot of cricket. Some of it's been through injury, well,
Speaker 3: a lot of it's been through injury, but some of
Speaker 3: it's just been through not engaging with some of these
Speaker 3: bilateral these endless bilateral series that are going on. I've
Speaker 3: kind of had a look at the calendar for the
Speaker 3: next cycle. Dylan kleback, Yeah, assistant, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: do it now. I will save it, save it for
Speaker 3: next week if anyone's interested in. But I reckon I
Speaker 3: got a way of getting him through to the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty seven Cricket World Cup, which is when we can
Speaker 3: say goodbye that home summer, that Southern Hemisphere summer. The
Speaker 3: twenty six twenty seven they're away in Australia for three tests,
Speaker 3: so I'd love to see him have one more crack
Speaker 3: at Australia and then they're also home. I think maybe
Speaker 3: it's a bumper summer. They might even be home to
Speaker 3: England and Sri Lanka there and I've just got I
Speaker 3: can see parades down the main street of Mount Monganoi,
Speaker 3: a final farewell at Bay Oval, but Dylan Klever led
Speaker 3: hikoy Yeah, New Zealand cricket free entry, spill over into
Speaker 3: Blake Park for big screens, free beer, free captain's hats,
Speaker 3: free rocket apples, you know, maybe even an investa sture
Speaker 3: how you say that word, where you get a New
Speaker 3: Zealand or a merit awarded to them at lunch on
Speaker 3: the first day. All this sort of stuff that he
Speaker 3: absolutely did test, but we're just going to make him
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's a fever dream for
Speaker 2: you and a fever nightmare for him, That's exactly.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, I look forward to that.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could write that up as a Google calendar
Speaker 2: that we can all that you could share and we
Speaker 2: can all sort of embed that into our list of
Speaker 2: calendars on Google and we can kind of keep an
Speaker 2: eye on we came.
Speaker 3: I can do that. I'm finding close to having already
Speaker 3: done it.
Speaker 2: Oh you do worry me at at times, Dylan. Yeah, well, Dylan,
Speaker 2: I can tell you England have landed. I've seen the
Speaker 2: photos of them coming into Queenstown, the classic stereotype photos
Speaker 2: of the bags coming off the plane, and looks like
Speaker 2: they are gearing up for some golf at Millbrook ahead
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand at Cricket eleven at the Sir
Speaker 2: John Davies over eleven am. I guess my question is
Speaker 2: up game or are they really just actually here to
Speaker 2: play golf.
Speaker 3: They're certainly here to play golf initially. It's a very
Speaker 3: bassball way of going about things, isn't it. There's plenty
Speaker 3: of choices down there as well. In fact, it's not
Speaker 3: so long ago that my oldest child went around Central
Speaker 3: Otago playing a bit of golf. So if they get
Speaker 3: sick of Millbrook, they can shoot down to Roxburgh, which
Speaker 3: is a lot of fun. There's all sorts of courses
Speaker 3: there can't go wrong, but arrow Town's always good for
Speaker 3: the soul. Yeah, I hope they're as distracted as can
Speaker 3: be because I've still got that World Test Championship, hope,
Speaker 3: and that requires England to play their part in a
Speaker 3: series loss have.
Speaker 2: Isolated through our ongoing analysis. We need the distractions to win.
Speaker 2: So yeah, a bit of golf that will be helpful.
Speaker 2: World Test Championship is not going to be as distraction
Speaker 2: for they're pretty much stuffed. They've just lost a series
Speaker 2: in Pakistan, but they one day series in the West Indies.
Speaker 2: Brenda McCollums taken on the white ball reins feels like
Speaker 2: it could be another distraction with her James Anderson and
Speaker 2: his wife bleating about him being dropped in the media
Speaker 2: even though he's about as old as Methuselah and.
Speaker 3: His wife has not taken Awhall, has she She.
Speaker 2: Must have had her clothing allowance reduced or something. And
Speaker 2: we've got the IPL action coming up next week as well.
Speaker 3: So he's in that though James Anderson's in.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes he is.
Speaker 2: I tell you one that I did see went pretty
Speaker 2: well over in the West Indies as the new boy
Speaker 2: Jacob Bethel who he's only twenty one years old, but
Speaker 2: they are talking about him same hushed tones as they
Speaker 2: were talking about Harry Brook. So that's what Marcus Stroscothic thinks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, look out.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's another big series about to start as well,
Speaker 3: this time across the Tasman and that's one that I'm
Speaker 3: tremendously looking forward to. And I'm not sure. I haven't
Speaker 3: worked out the WTC implications yet and what is the
Speaker 3: best result for New Zealand. But I'm assuming that we're
Speaker 3: assuming that Australia are going to be kind of in
Speaker 3: so if they beat India that probably helps how things go.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a few Well, Australia had their issue
Speaker 3: replacing David Warner, but India have gone next level with
Speaker 3: their issues. And at the top of the order, Rowat
Speaker 3: Sharma is not there on opportunity leave shouldn't and Gill
Speaker 3: has cracked something and is unavailable, and they are looking
Speaker 3: at kl Rah Hall opening the batting, and maybe a
Speaker 3: young fellow called Paddy Carl who was in the India
Speaker 3: squad that lost to quite heavily to Australia. A and
Speaker 3: a couple of unofficial tests, joining him at the top
Speaker 3: of the order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that that's a massive loss.
Speaker 1: Shouldn Gil being out. I mean, he's he's scary.
Speaker 2: Ko Roll got one on the got crunched on the
Speaker 2: hand this week as well, So I think he's been
Speaker 2: for scans, but it's been cleared warming up at the whacker. Actually,
Speaker 2: Charmi is also an Coli'S been for some scans.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're really they are really in the wars.
Speaker 2: Australia too, have got their troubles, as you say, new
Speaker 2: opener even opened in Sheffield. Shield cricket nicknamed Buddha after
Speaker 2: childhood cricket coach Fat shamed him and he's never been
Speaker 2: able to shake the nickname.
Speaker 1: And of course they've got Cameron.
Speaker 2: Green out with the buggered back headed Marsha just back
Speaker 2: from parental leave as well. And you know, both teams
Speaker 2: really are. It's Army gets thrown around a lot, but geez, gentleman,
Speaker 2: in these teams. I mean, I think Australia, every single
Speaker 2: player apart from McSweeney.
Speaker 1: Is over thirty five.
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: I think that's what I saw made. No, that's not true.
Speaker 2: Over thirty Macsweeny's the only guy that's under thirty, he's
Speaker 2: twenty five. And then yeah, the Indians have got you know,
Speaker 2: lots of old dogs in there as well, you know
Speaker 2: row It Cooley, Boomera, Ashwyn, you know. Yeah, they've got
Speaker 2: some old buggers in there too. So yeah, it's going
Speaker 2: to be interesting. I'm really looking forward to seeing Richard
Speaker 2: part go berserk and yashas Vijai's while he looked potentially
Speaker 2: ominous but ultimately wasn't against New Zealand.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I sure he had his moment Stindy and
Speaker 3: that that series, that five test series starts at the
Speaker 3: very user friendly time zone for New Zealand three twenty
Speaker 3: pm on Friday at not the Whacker, I was just
Speaker 3: about to say the Whacker by default, but the Opus
Speaker 3: Optus in Perth. Sorry, it's a four test series. Yeah,
Speaker 3: before they move on there, I think they have a
Speaker 3: pink ball warm up in Canberra and they play a
Speaker 3: pink ball test in Adelaide that didn't go so well
Speaker 3: for India last time out, all out thirty something in
Speaker 3: that test. Then they go up to the Gabatoire and
Speaker 3: that series ends with the Boxing Day Test in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: So you've got haven't they got the Sydney They've got
Speaker 2: the Sydney one in there. I don't think I just
Speaker 2: don't think it's in our notes.
Speaker 3: I think it is year ye, that New Year's Day
Speaker 3: test that would make sense my notes.
Speaker 1: And there's a bit of.
Speaker 2: There's a bit of speculation that those first three tests
Speaker 2: per Adelaide and Brisbane have been set up in that
Speaker 2: order to sort of try and get just But I
Speaker 2: think I heard Simon dal saying that this week, which
Speaker 2: I think is an interesting and interesting theory, they kind
Speaker 2: of want him to be wrecked by the time. Well,
Speaker 2: there's speculation, I guess, conspiracy theory, speculation rather than any
Speaker 2: anything official, that they want him cooked by the time
Speaker 2: Boxing Day and the STG matches roll around.
Speaker 1: So an interesting thing to watch out for there.
Speaker 2: And probably the biggest decision that India have to make
Speaker 2: is which spinner.
Speaker 1: They're going to be picking. Do they pack at Jadasia,
Speaker 1: do they pick an Ashwin? Yeah, it's going to be
Speaker 1: interesting to see that. Obviously got coolled it.
Speaker 2: The yard ave in there as well, but you'd expect
Speaker 2: he's a bit of a he's more shitty on the
Speaker 2: batting front, so so, but yeah, magnificent can't wait to
Speaker 2: get stuck into that series DC. Just to bring things
Speaker 2: down the level, Let's have a quick look at the
Speaker 2: planket shield before we get out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well the planket shield is in full swing
Speaker 3: now around two is underway and we'll go around the
Speaker 3: grounds at Seddon Park. This is just from after the
Speaker 3: first day. Actually, I haven't had a chance to do
Speaker 3: much of a catch up today, but after the first
Speaker 3: day at Seddon Park, ND word out for two hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty eight with Williamson and I have to confess
Speaker 3: it was a fairly painstaking sixty, but he's still top
Speaker 3: scored with sixty with the late blooming Jordan Sussex three
Speaker 3: fifty three and Danrew Ferns three sixty two Auckland were
Speaker 3: cruising along in reply at Sex and Oval CD just
Speaker 3: all out for disappointing two hundred and two d cleaver
Speaker 3: quality start. The season continues with fifty four not out.
Speaker 3: Camp Paul was the chief destroyer for the Cantabs, taking
Speaker 3: five to thirty four, and just on a little note,
Speaker 3: Camp Paul was the son of Justin Paul, who wrote
Speaker 3: the brilliant essay letter to Israel. We've had Justin Paul
Speaker 3: on the show to talk about that. Yeah, and you
Speaker 3: can check out the essay in full on the Bounce
Speaker 3: Substack newsletter. I'd encourage you to do that. Canterbury, the
Speaker 3: last I saw about eighty odd for two with Rehys
Speaker 3: Marry who was not out in the forties and at
Speaker 3: University Oval, Wellington. We're in a really good position. Three
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty nine for six Overnight Nickelley one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty four, Logan van Beek continuing his fine start
Speaker 3: to the season for sixty eight. I think they were
Speaker 3: dismissed relatively quickly this morning three fifty seven, three fifty
Speaker 3: seven year. I thought it was a bit of a
Speaker 3: collapse and Otago were doing right. They lost the earlier
Speaker 3: wik at of Thorn Parks, but I saw Jacob Cumming
Speaker 3: had scored a few runs. I'm not sure how they're
Speaker 3: going at the moment, but yeah, just a quick rundown
Speaker 3: of the Golden Box, which is the award that the
Speaker 3: BYC gives to the top scoring plunket shield batter for
Speaker 3: the season. D Cleaver CD leading the way with two
Speaker 3: five with the two Willingtonians Van Beek and Nick Kelly
Speaker 3: closely following on one nine to six. The silver Sweatband
Speaker 3: may have changed a little bit depending on Liam Dudding
Speaker 3: is doing the CD transplant that's ended up in Wellington
Speaker 3: this year. Dan rul Ferns though leads away on nine
Speaker 3: and I think Dudding in Sussex were next at eight,
Speaker 3: although that may have changed. And just a little bit
Speaker 3: of a recap here. We had a really messy end
Speaker 3: to last season, clearly involved Jason Hoyt just not turning
Speaker 3: up and the studio being refitted, but essentially we went
Speaker 3: missing as the domestic season concluded. So you might not
Speaker 3: be aware that last year's winners of the Golden Box
Speaker 3: was Dale Phillips of Otago was six eighty six, so
Speaker 3: he's defending champion, with the runner up being Garris Severin
Speaker 3: of Wellington was six x seven and a special shout
Speaker 3: out to the for the over forties, Greg Hay nearly
Speaker 3: stole it actually you can pile six hundred and forty
Speaker 3: three in his final season for the Mighty CD. What
Speaker 3: a warrior he was. And the Silver Sweatband winner was
Speaker 3: Nathan Smith of Wellington with thirty three and the runner
Speaker 3: up was Otago's Jacob Duffy with one. So I guess
Speaker 3: it's nice to see that plunkettshield performances certainly, and when
Speaker 3: it comes to the ball we're being rewarded. So yeah, look,
Speaker 3: if anyone knows Nathan Smith and Dale Phillips, if you
Speaker 3: can get in touch with them and get them to
Speaker 3: send back their trophies so we can get the golden
Speaker 3: box engraved and the silver sweatband embossed for the new
Speaker 3: winners if needed. Well, my word, this is embarrassing. Just
Speaker 3: as we're about to cross over to Pool for his
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