1 00:00:06,855 --> 00:00:10,735 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:11,975 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,975 --> 00:00:16,775 Speaker 2: Your news TALK'SB and we're just standing by to jump 4 00:00:16,815 --> 00:00:19,455 Speaker 2: into the garden with climb pass to be with us 5 00:00:19,495 --> 00:00:23,175 Speaker 2: in just a moment. If you've got a question for it, 6 00:00:23,535 --> 00:00:26,455 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 7 00:00:27,095 --> 00:00:29,095 Speaker 2: One of the things we will talk about is this 8 00:00:29,135 --> 00:00:35,375 Speaker 2: whole thing around the the L boxes. So there was 9 00:00:35,415 --> 00:00:39,895 Speaker 2: a request actually came from my own house to build 10 00:00:39,895 --> 00:00:44,455 Speaker 2: one of these in order to entice perhaps an OL 11 00:00:44,455 --> 00:00:46,095 Speaker 2: to come and live at our place for a while, 12 00:00:46,095 --> 00:00:48,495 Speaker 2: which would be awesome in any way, I went to 13 00:00:48,535 --> 00:00:50,815 Speaker 2: the expert, which was Rut, and said, hey, can you 14 00:00:50,855 --> 00:00:54,215 Speaker 2: send me some plans, which he did. I think he'd forgotten, 15 00:00:54,295 --> 00:00:56,135 Speaker 2: to be fair, that he sent me two different plans. 16 00:00:56,215 --> 00:01:00,695 Speaker 2: Of course, I've built two different OL boxes and put 17 00:01:00,735 --> 00:01:02,375 Speaker 2: up a little video of one of them, and I'll 18 00:01:02,415 --> 00:01:04,735 Speaker 2: put up a little bit of an explanation about the 19 00:01:04,855 --> 00:01:07,815 Speaker 2: two different OL boxes a little bit later on. So 20 00:01:07,855 --> 00:01:09,295 Speaker 2: we'll try and get that sorted out. But if you've 21 00:01:09,335 --> 00:01:12,055 Speaker 2: got a question for Dred, the lines are open and 22 00:01:12,095 --> 00:01:15,055 Speaker 2: the number to call is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 23 00:01:16,615 --> 00:01:19,375 Speaker 2: Just gonna check in with the team that we've got 24 00:01:19,935 --> 00:01:26,455 Speaker 2: root not yet, I can't hear right. We'll come back 25 00:01:26,455 --> 00:01:28,215 Speaker 2: to that in just a moment. A couple of other 26 00:01:28,295 --> 00:01:29,975 Speaker 2: quick texts that have come in just before the break. 27 00:01:31,335 --> 00:01:34,855 Speaker 2: I've talked about the soul before. This is from a 28 00:01:35,055 --> 00:01:39,935 Speaker 2: sparky who was talking about installing, you know, like heat 29 00:01:39,935 --> 00:01:43,535 Speaker 2: transfer systems. Before installing a heat transfer system asks a 30 00:01:43,615 --> 00:01:46,015 Speaker 2: supply to show evidence of the temperature and the roof. 31 00:01:46,135 --> 00:01:49,455 Speaker 2: Because of the construction type, there was no heat in 32 00:01:49,495 --> 00:01:52,575 Speaker 2: my roof space, so they ended up declining. That's not 33 00:01:52,615 --> 00:01:54,815 Speaker 2: to say there's not a benefit to putting ventilation in 34 00:01:55,495 --> 00:01:57,895 Speaker 2: which I think is really really important. And other text 35 00:01:57,935 --> 00:02:00,775 Speaker 2: comes through, Hey, look, I've got a late nineteen eighties 36 00:02:00,855 --> 00:02:03,535 Speaker 2: house with a concrete tile roof. There's no building paper 37 00:02:03,695 --> 00:02:06,775 Speaker 2: or no roofing underlay underneath the roof as that normal? 38 00:02:06,855 --> 00:02:10,055 Speaker 2: Is that okay? From Blair? Yep. That's still the case 39 00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:12,015 Speaker 2: today in terms of the building code. So if it's 40 00:02:12,095 --> 00:02:15,215 Speaker 2: concrete tile roof with a pitch I think of greater 41 00:02:15,335 --> 00:02:18,735 Speaker 2: than fifteen degrees, there is no requirement to put a 42 00:02:18,855 --> 00:02:23,215 Speaker 2: roofing underlay underneath the concrete tile roof, mainly because there's 43 00:02:23,295 --> 00:02:25,895 Speaker 2: not the same issues with condensation as you might have 44 00:02:26,055 --> 00:02:30,415 Speaker 2: from a metal roof if it's less than fifteen degrees. 45 00:02:30,455 --> 00:02:32,775 Speaker 2: I believe there is a requirement to have a roofing 46 00:02:32,895 --> 00:02:37,415 Speaker 2: underlay there, So hopefully that answers that one. And this 47 00:02:37,495 --> 00:02:40,135 Speaker 2: is the classic response every time, And this has been 48 00:02:40,135 --> 00:02:41,855 Speaker 2: the case for as long as I've been doing the show. 49 00:02:41,975 --> 00:02:44,815 Speaker 2: Since we talk about, you know, making our houses warmer, 50 00:02:44,935 --> 00:02:49,895 Speaker 2: more comfortable, dryer, et cetera. You know, I get a 51 00:02:49,935 --> 00:02:53,815 Speaker 2: text that runs along the lines of, oh, come on, 52 00:02:54,135 --> 00:02:58,135 Speaker 2: you know it was all right back in the day. Yeah, Well, 53 00:02:58,175 --> 00:03:00,775 Speaker 2: all of the evidence would point that that's not the case. Actually, 54 00:03:00,935 --> 00:03:04,375 Speaker 2: and some of the longitudinal studies, particularly out of the 55 00:03:04,455 --> 00:03:08,535 Speaker 2: University of Targo's medical team, who have done longitudinal studies 56 00:03:08,575 --> 00:03:14,375 Speaker 2: on the health impact of living in poor damp conditions 57 00:03:15,015 --> 00:03:19,135 Speaker 2: is massive. So our houses weren't great and they should 58 00:03:19,135 --> 00:03:21,455 Speaker 2: be much better. Oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 59 00:03:21,455 --> 00:03:22,975 Speaker 2: If you've got a question for it, I think we've 60 00:03:22,975 --> 00:03:24,015 Speaker 2: got up on the line. 61 00:03:24,055 --> 00:03:28,335 Speaker 3: Hey, get he get making it? How's that? 62 00:03:28,535 --> 00:03:28,735 Speaker 2: Yes? 63 00:03:28,815 --> 00:03:31,935 Speaker 3: He loved your love, Your love, your photos, I must 64 00:03:31,975 --> 00:03:32,695 Speaker 3: say they're great. 65 00:03:32,895 --> 00:03:35,495 Speaker 2: So let's indulge you ourselves for a minute, because I 66 00:03:35,535 --> 00:03:37,495 Speaker 2: did promise that i'd make one, and I have made it, 67 00:03:37,535 --> 00:03:39,335 Speaker 2: but in fact I didn't make two because you sent 68 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:41,415 Speaker 2: me two different plans, right, so I. 69 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:42,735 Speaker 3: Think I sent you three. 70 00:03:43,015 --> 00:03:44,935 Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, Well that means I'm going to 71 00:03:44,935 --> 00:03:47,295 Speaker 2: make another one, which is fine, to be fair. I've 72 00:03:47,375 --> 00:03:48,535 Speaker 2: had a great time making. 73 00:03:48,335 --> 00:03:50,095 Speaker 3: Them, especially if you want barn ols. 74 00:03:50,335 --> 00:03:53,455 Speaker 2: Yes, I do want barn ols. Specifically, what have I 75 00:03:53,535 --> 00:03:55,815 Speaker 2: now built blood boxes that are not for barn ols? 76 00:03:56,535 --> 00:03:59,535 Speaker 3: You built two boxes? Said no, no, the two boxes. 77 00:03:59,575 --> 00:04:03,895 Speaker 3: One is for the one that has got the offset instances, 78 00:04:04,695 --> 00:04:08,735 Speaker 3: is something that was designed for little owls, which had 79 00:04:09,095 --> 00:04:11,935 Speaker 3: the German owl. They're actually small. 80 00:04:11,495 --> 00:04:14,535 Speaker 2: Owls, very small owls. It's a very big box for 81 00:04:14,575 --> 00:04:15,655 Speaker 2: a small owl. 82 00:04:15,655 --> 00:04:19,655 Speaker 3: I know, I know. And the other one is actually 83 00:04:19,855 --> 00:04:23,695 Speaker 3: also a box for little owls, but probably ruru would 84 00:04:23,695 --> 00:04:26,095 Speaker 3: go in there as well, which is of course our 85 00:04:26,215 --> 00:04:31,855 Speaker 3: native ruru owl. Yes, okay, the one for the and 86 00:04:31,935 --> 00:04:35,695 Speaker 3: I sent them because I feared that for some reason 87 00:04:35,735 --> 00:04:38,455 Speaker 3: you might not have either gotten it or looked at it. 88 00:04:38,735 --> 00:04:41,175 Speaker 3: There's a third one from England which is slightly larger 89 00:04:41,215 --> 00:04:43,615 Speaker 3: for the Bano. The Banyl is the largest of the 90 00:04:43,695 --> 00:04:46,095 Speaker 3: three native owls or the three owls that we have 91 00:04:46,135 --> 00:04:50,215 Speaker 3: in New Zealand. But look, to be quite honest, a 92 00:04:50,495 --> 00:04:53,935 Speaker 3: baro might go in the largest ones that you've built anyway, 93 00:04:54,575 --> 00:04:57,135 Speaker 3: as long as it's got an entrance of something like 94 00:04:57,175 --> 00:04:59,655 Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen centimeters. 95 00:04:59,735 --> 00:05:03,015 Speaker 2: Oh okay, because all of the designs that I had 96 00:05:03,055 --> 00:05:06,255 Speaker 2: said that the entranceway needs to be somewhere around seven 97 00:05:06,335 --> 00:05:07,735 Speaker 2: and tea to eighty millimeters. 98 00:05:08,295 --> 00:05:13,375 Speaker 3: That's right, and that is for little owls. Ok. And 99 00:05:13,495 --> 00:05:15,575 Speaker 3: I've got little owls in my garden. You see the 100 00:05:15,575 --> 00:05:18,975 Speaker 3: one that I sent you from. We banned those. This 101 00:05:19,135 --> 00:05:22,455 Speaker 3: is actually an old game from Europe. It's actually a 102 00:05:22,495 --> 00:05:23,295 Speaker 3: niedlance owl. 103 00:05:23,455 --> 00:05:23,655 Speaker 4: Yep. 104 00:05:24,135 --> 00:05:28,655 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. So here you go. The other thing 105 00:05:28,735 --> 00:05:31,295 Speaker 3: that you were you're quite right by saying that Ponsonby 106 00:05:31,375 --> 00:05:34,335 Speaker 3: Road is where we found somebody found an owl sitting 107 00:05:34,335 --> 00:05:34,935 Speaker 3: there in a tree. 108 00:05:36,415 --> 00:05:36,935 Speaker 2: Amazing. 109 00:05:37,735 --> 00:05:38,535 Speaker 3: How cool is that? 110 00:05:38,895 --> 00:05:43,335 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I know I've seen some photographs Bayswater of 111 00:05:43,935 --> 00:05:45,695 Speaker 2: I think that was rue that was sitting in the 112 00:05:45,735 --> 00:05:48,455 Speaker 2: tree there. And then some people that I know over 113 00:05:48,535 --> 00:05:51,815 Speaker 2: in Beach Haven Way had a barn owl crash into 114 00:05:51,855 --> 00:05:54,415 Speaker 2: the appool glass and and kind of wander around the 115 00:05:54,455 --> 00:06:01,055 Speaker 2: deck slightly dazed as well, which is pretty awesome. Okay, well, 116 00:06:01,095 --> 00:06:04,615 Speaker 2: look ill, I may have to. I've still got some 117 00:06:04,655 --> 00:06:08,575 Speaker 2: plywood leftover, so another one. 118 00:06:08,855 --> 00:06:11,135 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what now. But that is the cool 119 00:06:11,255 --> 00:06:14,655 Speaker 3: thing that we're doing now, because these there are other 120 00:06:14,655 --> 00:06:18,935 Speaker 3: people that are making vinyl boxes, if you like, and 121 00:06:18,935 --> 00:06:22,095 Speaker 3: and they they love that sort of idea because they're dry, 122 00:06:22,215 --> 00:06:27,215 Speaker 3: they're high, they're protected, and it's all good. The other 123 00:06:27,255 --> 00:06:31,695 Speaker 3: thing I was going to say is that for barnals 124 00:06:31,895 --> 00:06:35,775 Speaker 3: there are two types of boxes. One that goes inside 125 00:06:36,095 --> 00:06:39,855 Speaker 3: the barn, yes, because they love to live in human barns, 126 00:06:40,415 --> 00:06:44,695 Speaker 3: and the other one is probably better for outside barns, 127 00:06:44,735 --> 00:06:48,175 Speaker 3: but in trees and in such a way that they 128 00:06:48,255 --> 00:06:50,535 Speaker 3: can have enough shelter from rain and all that sort 129 00:06:50,575 --> 00:06:53,495 Speaker 3: of stuff and the sun. It's another thing, of course, 130 00:06:53,495 --> 00:06:55,655 Speaker 3: hanging them up in the right place. If you hang 131 00:06:55,735 --> 00:06:58,535 Speaker 3: them in an area where there's always some especially in 132 00:06:58,575 --> 00:07:01,575 Speaker 3: the summertime, you'll find that barnys start to cook a bit. 133 00:07:01,615 --> 00:07:02,775 Speaker 3: They get very very hot. 134 00:07:03,895 --> 00:07:06,695 Speaker 2: Okay, because I must have met one of them has 135 00:07:06,735 --> 00:07:08,695 Speaker 2: got like a little balcony right. 136 00:07:08,615 --> 00:07:13,935 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly that's where you go sunbathing. But anyway, the 137 00:07:14,015 --> 00:07:18,255 Speaker 3: point I loved that. The point though, is that we 138 00:07:18,455 --> 00:07:20,735 Speaker 3: have to be careful not to not to cook them 139 00:07:20,735 --> 00:07:22,815 Speaker 3: too much. And the third thing I'd like to tell 140 00:07:22,815 --> 00:07:25,495 Speaker 3: you that is something that we've just found out here 141 00:07:25,535 --> 00:07:29,055 Speaker 3: in New Zealand when those binals got into Kaitaia in 142 00:07:29,095 --> 00:07:33,255 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, is that these pairs have three 143 00:07:33,615 --> 00:07:34,935 Speaker 3: broods a year. 144 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:35,855 Speaker 2: Wow. 145 00:07:36,775 --> 00:07:41,295 Speaker 3: So imagine it. Imagine that three times four young with 146 00:07:41,375 --> 00:07:43,855 Speaker 3: a bit of luck, that's twelve young and a year 147 00:07:43,935 --> 00:07:44,975 Speaker 3: for just one pair. 148 00:07:46,215 --> 00:07:49,815 Speaker 2: Fantastic amazing. Isn't that just incredible? 149 00:07:50,215 --> 00:07:50,415 Speaker 5: It is? 150 00:07:51,095 --> 00:07:53,535 Speaker 2: I love And I'll tell you what I was. Actually, 151 00:07:53,535 --> 00:07:58,095 Speaker 2: I was at an event on Thursday night with Cactus, 152 00:07:58,095 --> 00:08:01,815 Speaker 2: you know, the clothing manufacturers, right, New Zealand based clothing manufacturers, 153 00:08:01,855 --> 00:08:04,335 Speaker 2: and Ben As, one of the owners, was there. Now 154 00:08:04,375 --> 00:08:07,255 Speaker 2: he actually sits on the board of Forest and Bird 155 00:08:07,295 --> 00:08:09,775 Speaker 2: as well, so he's actively and we were talking about 156 00:08:09,815 --> 00:08:13,015 Speaker 2: this whole thing where I guess as government funding for 157 00:08:13,095 --> 00:08:16,655 Speaker 2: some community organizations dries up and conservation work dries up, 158 00:08:16,695 --> 00:08:21,495 Speaker 2: in some cases, individuals are taking on the responsibility themselves 159 00:08:21,535 --> 00:08:23,375 Speaker 2: and they're going, well, actually, we think that this is 160 00:08:23,415 --> 00:08:25,255 Speaker 2: really important work, so we're just going to carry on 161 00:08:25,335 --> 00:08:27,415 Speaker 2: and do it, which is also and that you've been 162 00:08:27,455 --> 00:08:29,735 Speaker 2: part of the space for a long time. I think, well, so. 163 00:08:30,535 --> 00:08:33,495 Speaker 3: Can we trust that sort of stuff? Yeah, absolutely, that's 164 00:08:33,535 --> 00:08:38,095 Speaker 3: exactly what this is about. And and and there's another 165 00:08:38,135 --> 00:08:40,815 Speaker 3: group just actually I got an interesting FOC call just 166 00:08:40,815 --> 00:08:47,055 Speaker 3: before your missives online from Ethel McCully. Now, most people 167 00:08:47,055 --> 00:08:49,655 Speaker 3: who are in Groces will know Ethel McCully because he 168 00:08:49,815 --> 00:08:52,375 Speaker 3: was one of the guys that rent the McCully garden 169 00:08:52,415 --> 00:08:55,335 Speaker 3: centers and grocers for a long time. And it was 170 00:08:55,375 --> 00:08:57,935 Speaker 3: something that we said last or sorry, something that I 171 00:08:58,015 --> 00:09:01,375 Speaker 3: said last week when a woman dr rang up and 172 00:09:01,415 --> 00:09:04,495 Speaker 3: said what would you do with what would you do 173 00:09:04,535 --> 00:09:08,535 Speaker 3: with chicken manure? And said, I wouldn't use it. And 174 00:09:08,655 --> 00:09:12,535 Speaker 3: here's Ethel. He's part of Rotary South Christs and they 175 00:09:12,535 --> 00:09:16,695 Speaker 3: are selling chicken manure and he knows exactly what I mean. 176 00:09:16,735 --> 00:09:19,375 Speaker 3: So he says, can you please tell people that again, 177 00:09:19,455 --> 00:09:22,415 Speaker 3: chicken minure itself is not bad, but I would put 178 00:09:22,415 --> 00:09:25,535 Speaker 3: it through a compost cycle fright before I use it. 179 00:09:26,055 --> 00:09:29,335 Speaker 3: And that makes so much sense, or diluted with good 180 00:09:30,375 --> 00:09:34,415 Speaker 3: garden mix or you know that sort of stuff, so 181 00:09:34,615 --> 00:09:37,735 Speaker 3: you you don't go to the high faluting chicken manu 182 00:09:37,815 --> 00:09:40,175 Speaker 3: and put it on your garden because that will burn 183 00:09:40,255 --> 00:09:41,975 Speaker 3: your plants. Be very careful with. 184 00:09:41,975 --> 00:09:45,855 Speaker 2: That, just quickly. And because it relates to father's day, 185 00:09:45,975 --> 00:09:50,015 Speaker 2: So Dad was an evid My dad was an evid 186 00:09:50,055 --> 00:09:54,215 Speaker 2: gardener as well, right, And so because we were you know, duchies, 187 00:09:54,255 --> 00:09:55,895 Speaker 2: and we knew the van Brinks down the road who 188 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:58,895 Speaker 2: had the chicken farm, right, we would go and collect 189 00:09:59,095 --> 00:10:03,615 Speaker 2: chicken compost manure from there. And Dad, I think knew 190 00:10:03,695 --> 00:10:06,055 Speaker 2: intuitively that you didn't put it straight on the garden. 191 00:10:06,415 --> 00:10:09,255 Speaker 2: He would go and collect a trailer load of chicken 192 00:10:09,295 --> 00:10:11,775 Speaker 2: manure from down the road and we'd bring it home. 193 00:10:11,815 --> 00:10:14,055 Speaker 2: And then he had at one stage it was like 194 00:10:14,095 --> 00:10:17,375 Speaker 2: an old bath semi buried into the garden, and so 195 00:10:17,455 --> 00:10:19,575 Speaker 2: he'd fill that up and he'd let it compost down 196 00:10:19,575 --> 00:10:21,735 Speaker 2: and then he would use it. And in the meantime 197 00:10:21,775 --> 00:10:23,575 Speaker 2: he put a kind of an old bit of plywood 198 00:10:23,575 --> 00:10:25,615 Speaker 2: over the top of it. Anyway, I can remember as 199 00:10:25,655 --> 00:10:28,535 Speaker 2: a kid forgetting that there was a plywood lid on there. 200 00:10:28,655 --> 00:10:32,415 Speaker 2: The plywood had obviously rotted ended up knee deep in 201 00:10:32,655 --> 00:10:35,015 Speaker 2: uh in the pool. 202 00:10:36,975 --> 00:10:41,775 Speaker 3: And just another thing found vrom Brink family. One of 203 00:10:41,815 --> 00:10:49,055 Speaker 3: those people married one of our My is his brother 204 00:10:49,095 --> 00:10:49,455 Speaker 3: in law. 205 00:10:49,775 --> 00:10:53,975 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Yeah, down the road on great road between Papatoy 206 00:10:54,015 --> 00:10:58,775 Speaker 2: and Worry. Yeah, let's talk to some people. Mike, A 207 00:10:58,935 --> 00:11:01,135 Speaker 2: very good morning, good morning. 208 00:11:01,135 --> 00:11:02,975 Speaker 3: How are you good? Thanks? 209 00:11:03,855 --> 00:11:07,135 Speaker 6: That's good, that's good. Hey, my wife, two kids. We're 210 00:11:07,175 --> 00:11:13,335 Speaker 6: moving from See what can I dance the Central Otago? Yeah, 211 00:11:13,495 --> 00:11:15,375 Speaker 6: I was wanting to know what we should be planning 212 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:18,495 Speaker 6: at this time of the year. Inside a gardening tunnel. 213 00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:20,655 Speaker 3: Where in Central Otago are you? 214 00:11:22,295 --> 00:11:24,135 Speaker 6: We will be moving to Renfrey. 215 00:11:24,295 --> 00:11:28,215 Speaker 3: Ren Fairly, okay, okay, so you do get big frosts 216 00:11:28,215 --> 00:11:28,895 Speaker 3: and things. 217 00:11:28,655 --> 00:11:31,895 Speaker 6: Like that as far as I'm aware, Yes. 218 00:11:31,775 --> 00:11:34,615 Speaker 3: Yes you will. Okay. You know what is probably the 219 00:11:34,655 --> 00:11:37,415 Speaker 3: best thing to do, Mike, and it's and I'm not joking, 220 00:11:38,135 --> 00:11:41,055 Speaker 3: is to go for a walk around where you are, 221 00:11:41,695 --> 00:11:45,375 Speaker 3: you know, go to Renfairly town. See who has got 222 00:11:45,375 --> 00:11:49,495 Speaker 3: the nicest gardens, What is the stuff that works well there? 223 00:11:49,855 --> 00:11:51,935 Speaker 3: And you can you know, I would normally send you 224 00:11:51,975 --> 00:11:54,695 Speaker 3: to a to a botanic garden if you like. I 225 00:11:54,735 --> 00:11:57,855 Speaker 3: don't think there's a botannic garden in Renfrelly. There will 226 00:11:57,855 --> 00:12:01,055 Speaker 3: be one in Dunedin, but stay stay central and go 227 00:12:01,175 --> 00:12:04,055 Speaker 3: never look who's got a good garden? And I bet you, Mike, 228 00:12:04,175 --> 00:12:06,855 Speaker 3: if you knock on the door of a really nice garden, 229 00:12:07,415 --> 00:12:12,535 Speaker 3: they'll tell you exactly why and what. Because gardeners do that, 230 00:12:12,575 --> 00:12:15,575 Speaker 3: they share that, they share their knowledge, and that is 231 00:12:15,615 --> 00:12:18,215 Speaker 3: probably the best way. The other thing is to go 232 00:12:18,495 --> 00:12:20,575 Speaker 3: and you've got to do a lot of work on 233 00:12:20,895 --> 00:12:24,055 Speaker 3: the internet. I suppose to find out what you can 234 00:12:24,175 --> 00:12:27,815 Speaker 3: what you can get there, but honestly, go local, ask 235 00:12:27,895 --> 00:12:30,935 Speaker 3: the local people. I bet you you will find really 236 00:12:30,975 --> 00:12:35,055 Speaker 3: willing people that will help you out. Awesome, Thank you 237 00:12:35,175 --> 00:12:37,175 Speaker 3: very much, No worries. 238 00:12:36,855 --> 00:12:39,495 Speaker 2: Mike, all this Mike, you take care. And Robbie, a 239 00:12:39,615 --> 00:12:40,535 Speaker 2: very good morning to you. 240 00:12:42,655 --> 00:12:45,095 Speaker 3: Hello Robbie, Hello, ah Hi dear. 241 00:12:45,535 --> 00:12:49,295 Speaker 4: Good morning gentlemen. Really the question for you. I've got 242 00:12:49,295 --> 00:12:53,335 Speaker 4: a lemon tree and it's got now it looks like 243 00:12:53,455 --> 00:12:57,295 Speaker 4: sut or something black that's leaned over the over the leaves, 244 00:12:57,335 --> 00:12:59,815 Speaker 4: and the whole tree is sort of like it. I 245 00:12:59,935 --> 00:13:00,895 Speaker 4: just wondered what it might be. 246 00:13:02,135 --> 00:13:07,135 Speaker 3: That stuff is probably called black sooty mob, which is 247 00:13:07,335 --> 00:13:10,815 Speaker 3: and makes sense that name, doesn't it. Are you in 248 00:13:10,895 --> 00:13:16,095 Speaker 3: the north of our country? Are you in the north Wellington? 249 00:13:16,335 --> 00:13:19,775 Speaker 3: Well that is still the north Okay, so et ceterus. 250 00:13:21,415 --> 00:13:27,775 Speaker 3: You will quite often get creatures that suck sap out 251 00:13:27,775 --> 00:13:31,855 Speaker 3: of the actual plant, out of the leaves, sometimes out 252 00:13:31,895 --> 00:13:34,975 Speaker 3: of the stems, and that could be meati bugs, that 253 00:13:35,055 --> 00:13:37,935 Speaker 3: could be scale insects, it could be aphids. And what 254 00:13:37,975 --> 00:13:41,135 Speaker 3: these things do is quite an interesting habit. They poop 255 00:13:41,175 --> 00:13:45,295 Speaker 3: out honeyedjew, which is sweet sap that they get from 256 00:13:45,335 --> 00:13:49,495 Speaker 3: the plant. That honeyedew then falls onto the leaves, often 257 00:13:49,655 --> 00:13:52,695 Speaker 3: on the top side of the leaves, and that is 258 00:13:52,975 --> 00:13:55,975 Speaker 3: sweet stuff that is a really good material on which 259 00:13:56,335 --> 00:13:59,775 Speaker 3: sooty mold grows. So what you're seeing there is the 260 00:13:59,895 --> 00:14:04,615 Speaker 3: end result of some sap sucking bugs damaging your plants 261 00:14:04,655 --> 00:14:07,615 Speaker 3: a little bit and pooping out sweet zep called honeyjew 262 00:14:08,175 --> 00:14:10,535 Speaker 3: on top of that gross souti mold. What you need 263 00:14:10,575 --> 00:14:12,375 Speaker 3: to do is think about how to get rid of 264 00:14:12,415 --> 00:14:17,895 Speaker 3: the scale insects, the meat bugs and the aphids. Very simple. 265 00:14:18,375 --> 00:14:24,375 Speaker 3: Get yourself a material like nim oil or conqueror oil, 266 00:14:25,015 --> 00:14:27,055 Speaker 3: and you can mix that with a little bit of 267 00:14:27,455 --> 00:14:31,895 Speaker 3: h if you like, pyrethroid insecticides, just insecticides and spray 268 00:14:31,975 --> 00:14:34,975 Speaker 3: that on top of those leaves of your of your plants, 269 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:38,695 Speaker 3: of your shrubs, and of your in this case citrus tree. 270 00:14:39,455 --> 00:14:41,815 Speaker 3: You'll find that you will kill. You will kill the 271 00:14:41,855 --> 00:14:45,055 Speaker 3: ones that pull all over the leaves below, and slowly 272 00:14:45,175 --> 00:14:46,695 Speaker 3: the black soutie mold will go. 273 00:14:48,135 --> 00:14:49,735 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. Is it conquer. 274 00:14:50,695 --> 00:14:55,175 Speaker 3: Conqueror conqueror oil. It's a mineral oil that you use 275 00:14:55,215 --> 00:14:58,095 Speaker 3: on plants. Your your guden senter will know what conqueror 276 00:14:58,375 --> 00:14:59,055 Speaker 3: oil is. 277 00:15:00,655 --> 00:15:04,495 Speaker 4: Thank you. Okay, thanks very much, your mother, and welcome. 278 00:15:06,655 --> 00:15:09,255 Speaker 2: Robbie. You take care. I think we'll take a break. 279 00:15:09,295 --> 00:15:10,855 Speaker 2: We'll do that. We'll do that before we talk to 280 00:15:11,015 --> 00:15:14,615 Speaker 2: and Nett will be back in just a moment. Rud 281 00:15:14,655 --> 00:15:16,255 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the email that you sent me 282 00:15:16,335 --> 00:15:21,735 Speaker 2: yesterday with the barn l nest boxes for inside Trust. 283 00:15:22,495 --> 00:15:25,655 Speaker 2: So this one now has a balcony from the first floor. Yes, 284 00:15:25,815 --> 00:15:28,575 Speaker 2: this is a whole new designed I know. 285 00:15:28,655 --> 00:15:32,735 Speaker 3: I know you'd love it, and it needs a licensed 286 00:15:32,735 --> 00:15:33,895 Speaker 3: building practitioner. 287 00:15:34,815 --> 00:15:36,775 Speaker 2: I have to say, with the designs you sent me, 288 00:15:37,015 --> 00:15:39,735 Speaker 2: I couldn't resist but slightly change them. So I just 289 00:15:39,735 --> 00:15:42,135 Speaker 2: couldn't bring myself to build one with a flat roof, 290 00:15:42,735 --> 00:15:44,935 Speaker 2: so I've put a pitched roof on them. 291 00:15:45,495 --> 00:15:48,615 Speaker 3: I think that's lovely because that's exactly what they like. 292 00:15:48,975 --> 00:15:51,415 Speaker 3: But you know what is the good things, especially that 293 00:15:51,535 --> 00:15:55,215 Speaker 3: long than one. Quite often you get starlings in there, 294 00:15:55,895 --> 00:15:59,775 Speaker 3: or because your whole is now too big if you 295 00:15:59,935 --> 00:16:03,855 Speaker 3: like or minus and it is. Yeah, oh yeah, you 296 00:16:03,895 --> 00:16:07,455 Speaker 3: get them as well. No, no, but what is the 297 00:16:07,495 --> 00:16:10,615 Speaker 3: point is that we get starlings in our little owl boxes? Now, 298 00:16:10,655 --> 00:16:12,935 Speaker 3: the little owl is not really big at all. It's 299 00:16:12,935 --> 00:16:17,975 Speaker 3: maybe at the most eight inches in size. That's all 300 00:16:18,015 --> 00:16:22,255 Speaker 3: it is, is tiny. But when you are styling and 301 00:16:22,295 --> 00:16:24,815 Speaker 3: you go into a little owl box, you end up 302 00:16:25,255 --> 00:16:28,615 Speaker 3: paying for that with your life. Those little owls know 303 00:16:28,735 --> 00:16:30,895 Speaker 3: how to kick them out or kill them right and 304 00:16:31,015 --> 00:16:34,175 Speaker 3: then and then they leave the corpses inside the box, 305 00:16:34,455 --> 00:16:37,375 Speaker 3: because what you get is flies. And if the babies 306 00:16:37,415 --> 00:16:39,415 Speaker 3: come out of the egg, they see the flies and 307 00:16:39,455 --> 00:16:44,095 Speaker 3: they learn how to hunt flies. It's absolutely stunning. 308 00:16:44,215 --> 00:16:45,095 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 309 00:16:45,215 --> 00:16:45,975 Speaker 3: It's really cool. 310 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:49,335 Speaker 2: I realized though with this one. It requires a barn, 311 00:16:49,615 --> 00:16:56,215 Speaker 2: and I don't have a bar fair, No, you. 312 00:16:56,175 --> 00:16:58,855 Speaker 3: Don't need a barn. It's like something that's European. 313 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:04,255 Speaker 2: That all right, all right, I will make maybe today 314 00:17:04,535 --> 00:17:06,855 Speaker 2: maybe it's a nice Father's day things to and happy 315 00:17:06,855 --> 00:17:09,015 Speaker 2: Father's Day to you too, mane at your. 316 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:12,335 Speaker 3: Post and and is Joseph okay, yeah. 317 00:17:12,055 --> 00:17:14,695 Speaker 2: You know he's great. He rang before and said Happy 318 00:17:14,695 --> 00:17:18,015 Speaker 2: Father's Day. So that's nice, right, and hello. 319 00:17:17,775 --> 00:17:22,575 Speaker 5: There, Hello there too, Rude and Pete. I want to 320 00:17:22,615 --> 00:17:26,735 Speaker 5: talk dead compost. I've killed it? Can I believe it? 321 00:17:26,775 --> 00:17:27,615 Speaker 5: Will it come back? 322 00:17:28,255 --> 00:17:30,255 Speaker 3: What did you do to it to kill it? 323 00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:34,855 Speaker 5: Well? I think I've put too many grass clippings into it. 324 00:17:35,615 --> 00:17:38,055 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no no, that doesn't mean 325 00:17:38,095 --> 00:17:40,015 Speaker 3: it's dead. It means you've. 326 00:17:39,815 --> 00:17:43,415 Speaker 5: Actually it's not. It's not rotting anything I put in. 327 00:17:43,495 --> 00:17:46,255 Speaker 5: I put all the kitchen scrapts out there, but it's 328 00:17:46,295 --> 00:17:46,855 Speaker 5: not roughing. 329 00:17:47,215 --> 00:17:49,695 Speaker 3: And that's exactly why you're going the wrong way, because 330 00:17:49,695 --> 00:17:53,175 Speaker 3: even the kitchen scraps are not part, are not needed 331 00:17:53,215 --> 00:17:57,775 Speaker 3: that this what you need now is wood chips. Right. 332 00:17:58,335 --> 00:18:01,775 Speaker 3: So so here's here's this. Here's a science lesson on compost. 333 00:18:02,335 --> 00:18:05,415 Speaker 3: Compost is made basically no on two things. The one 334 00:18:05,495 --> 00:18:08,375 Speaker 3: is one's night, which is all the grass pettings or 335 00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:10,535 Speaker 3: the leaves, all that stuff, or you're in most of 336 00:18:10,575 --> 00:18:13,975 Speaker 3: the food scraps. The other bit that it needs and 337 00:18:14,015 --> 00:18:16,895 Speaker 3: the large amount of compost. The largest part of the 338 00:18:16,935 --> 00:18:23,095 Speaker 3: compost is carbon, and carbon is wood chips, branches, that 339 00:18:23,215 --> 00:18:25,655 Speaker 3: sort of stuff, and if you just keep on putting 340 00:18:25,655 --> 00:18:29,415 Speaker 3: green stuff in it, you don't get enough composting going 341 00:18:29,455 --> 00:18:31,775 Speaker 3: at all. If you're now going to put a lot 342 00:18:31,815 --> 00:18:34,255 Speaker 3: of that woodchips in and mix it in if you 343 00:18:34,295 --> 00:18:37,695 Speaker 3: can with the rake, you'll find that everything will pick 344 00:18:37,775 --> 00:18:40,375 Speaker 3: up and there will be your compost won't be dead. 345 00:18:40,455 --> 00:18:41,535 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that for free. 346 00:18:42,695 --> 00:18:45,135 Speaker 5: Well, I haven't seen any little rooms or anything in it. 347 00:18:45,695 --> 00:18:48,615 Speaker 3: No, because they find it a bit too asset. They 348 00:18:48,695 --> 00:18:50,215 Speaker 3: burn their bubs in there. 349 00:18:52,175 --> 00:18:56,695 Speaker 5: Thanks, and why do they can? I think pete briefly, 350 00:18:57,055 --> 00:18:59,455 Speaker 5: thank you very much. A long time ago he told 351 00:18:59,495 --> 00:19:03,775 Speaker 5: me to put PVC windows in. Oh and I did, 352 00:19:04,415 --> 00:19:07,695 Speaker 5: And I've now sold the house to my son and 353 00:19:07,775 --> 00:19:09,495 Speaker 5: they thinks are absolutely fantastic. 354 00:19:10,295 --> 00:19:12,935 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's always one of these things. You've 355 00:19:12,935 --> 00:19:15,455 Speaker 2: got to look at the individual situation and make the 356 00:19:15,535 --> 00:19:17,855 Speaker 2: right choice for that. And if the PVC was the 357 00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:19,575 Speaker 2: right choice there, then that's fantastic. 358 00:19:19,775 --> 00:19:22,415 Speaker 5: So great here I've been meaning to tell you, thank you. 359 00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:27,255 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure, all the very best. Hey, let's look 360 00:19:27,295 --> 00:19:29,415 Speaker 2: at a couple. It's all got time for one more call. Also, 361 00:19:29,695 --> 00:19:31,215 Speaker 2: if you want to give us a call, eight hundred 362 00:19:31,215 --> 00:19:36,175 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty the number gardening questions germinating peony 363 00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:39,255 Speaker 2: tree seeds please tree. 364 00:19:39,735 --> 00:19:43,935 Speaker 3: I have not, literally, I have not worked with pony seeds. 365 00:19:44,615 --> 00:19:50,615 Speaker 3: I think Duly usually gets them from the shop and 366 00:19:50,615 --> 00:19:54,295 Speaker 3: and plants them directly. As as seed links. I've never 367 00:19:54,375 --> 00:19:56,175 Speaker 3: worked up, so I don't know. No, I'm not gonna 368 00:19:56,175 --> 00:19:57,855 Speaker 3: I'm not going to dare to do that. 369 00:19:58,775 --> 00:20:03,295 Speaker 2: And ponies are not a tree, are they not necessariutiful 370 00:20:03,335 --> 00:20:09,615 Speaker 2: for them? Cold line, very cold climate for. 371 00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:13,455 Speaker 3: That in order to flower properly. That's right right. 372 00:20:14,015 --> 00:20:16,295 Speaker 2: Another one from Duneedin is it too late to start 373 00:20:16,295 --> 00:20:19,295 Speaker 2: sowing seeds. I've collected a lot of seeds from last year, 374 00:20:19,335 --> 00:20:22,215 Speaker 2: just checking if seed raising mixes the best to use. 375 00:20:22,215 --> 00:20:26,975 Speaker 2: I'm also hoping the red and cream Karka beak seeds 376 00:20:27,015 --> 00:20:29,215 Speaker 2: will take from Joey. 377 00:20:29,455 --> 00:20:31,335 Speaker 3: That's a good thing to do right now. I would 378 00:20:31,335 --> 00:20:35,295 Speaker 3: say seeds are sowing depends on exactly what you're talking 379 00:20:35,295 --> 00:20:38,655 Speaker 3: about here. But for instance, if I'm now starting to 380 00:20:38,695 --> 00:20:41,175 Speaker 3: look at my tunnel house, I need to, for instance, 381 00:20:41,455 --> 00:20:45,815 Speaker 3: sew seeds for what do you call them? The tomatoes? 382 00:20:46,295 --> 00:20:48,935 Speaker 3: But the problem is if it's too cold, they don't 383 00:20:49,015 --> 00:20:52,055 Speaker 3: like that, So you do that inside and you do 384 00:20:52,135 --> 00:20:56,375 Speaker 3: that inside the house until literally all frost tender plants 385 00:20:56,935 --> 00:20:59,495 Speaker 3: need to do that until frost is no longer an issue. 386 00:20:59,615 --> 00:21:02,775 Speaker 3: It's that sort of stuff. So some varieties can be 387 00:21:02,855 --> 00:21:07,095 Speaker 3: sown right now. In fact, I've had broadbeat sewing it's 388 00:21:07,175 --> 00:21:12,775 Speaker 3: themselves over winter and they are now flowering. Unbelievable, but 389 00:21:12,855 --> 00:21:15,855 Speaker 3: that does work. But other plants can't handle that. So 390 00:21:16,215 --> 00:21:19,695 Speaker 3: it pays to google which particular seeds you want a 391 00:21:19,855 --> 00:21:22,055 Speaker 3: plant and make sure you do it at the right time. 392 00:21:22,135 --> 00:21:23,935 Speaker 3: But yes, you can sew seeds all. 393 00:21:23,895 --> 00:21:26,815 Speaker 2: Right, brilliant, Hey Tony, very good morning to you. 394 00:21:28,375 --> 00:21:33,695 Speaker 4: Good morning, gentlemen. I've got Michalla bubbles hedging live and ortland, 395 00:21:34,095 --> 00:21:38,455 Speaker 4: and I've got the leaves cooling up and got brownie. 396 00:21:38,055 --> 00:21:41,655 Speaker 7: Black spots on them and then obviously time falling off. 397 00:21:41,695 --> 00:21:44,295 Speaker 4: Between itself, but the leaves are all filled up and 398 00:21:44,695 --> 00:21:45,615 Speaker 4: down spots. 399 00:21:45,935 --> 00:21:48,935 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it might pay to actually use use some 400 00:21:48,935 --> 00:21:51,775 Speaker 3: some fungicides on that because it sounds like a fungal 401 00:21:51,895 --> 00:21:56,095 Speaker 3: infliction if you like, and fungicides plant, you know, for 402 00:21:56,175 --> 00:21:59,855 Speaker 3: plants to stop that brown spot actually getting on with 403 00:21:59,935 --> 00:22:03,015 Speaker 3: it is important. So what I would use is a 404 00:22:03,055 --> 00:22:09,575 Speaker 3: systemic fungicide. Go to your local garden center systemic fungus side, 405 00:22:09,775 --> 00:22:12,615 Speaker 3: something like there's all sorts of the bits, and there's 406 00:22:12,615 --> 00:22:15,335 Speaker 3: all sorts of varieties there, but ask for a systemic 407 00:22:15,375 --> 00:22:18,775 Speaker 3: that is taken into the plant and basically stops these 408 00:22:19,215 --> 00:22:21,575 Speaker 3: fungi from developing on your leaves. 409 00:22:23,295 --> 00:22:25,535 Speaker 1: Thanks for ya. 410 00:22:27,415 --> 00:22:31,655 Speaker 2: I'm listening attentively because we have Michaelia grappi's at home, 411 00:22:32,455 --> 00:22:34,215 Speaker 2: but thankfully and reasonably good health. 412 00:22:34,855 --> 00:22:38,575 Speaker 3: That's it. Sometimes when it's too wet and too cold, 413 00:22:38,735 --> 00:22:42,335 Speaker 3: it can get these fungal problems. Here, all sorts of things. 414 00:22:42,495 --> 00:22:46,855 Speaker 2: Right quick one from you, Richard. Greetings, Yes, good, good morning. 415 00:22:46,975 --> 00:22:54,495 Speaker 7: Hey Martian, lawn I sprayed the lawn, the marshy part 416 00:22:54,615 --> 00:22:58,095 Speaker 7: with your wit and forget it all died off, nicely, 417 00:22:58,175 --> 00:23:00,175 Speaker 7: yellowed and everything. What do I do with it? Now? 418 00:23:01,015 --> 00:23:04,255 Speaker 3: I would suggest you change the pH that means the 419 00:23:04,535 --> 00:23:08,815 Speaker 3: acidity of the soil by literally putting lime on it, 420 00:23:09,415 --> 00:23:15,495 Speaker 3: not not not dolomite lime, but agricultural line or normal 421 00:23:15,575 --> 00:23:17,935 Speaker 3: lime or whatever you want to call it. And that 422 00:23:18,095 --> 00:23:21,615 Speaker 3: will change the pH and that will that will really 423 00:23:21,815 --> 00:23:23,175 Speaker 3: disadvantage the moths. 424 00:23:24,495 --> 00:23:27,815 Speaker 7: Okay, your morning, welcome mate. 425 00:23:27,855 --> 00:23:30,695 Speaker 2: Go well, Andy, what's the distribution rate? 426 00:23:30,855 --> 00:23:31,015 Speaker 7: Is it? 427 00:23:31,055 --> 00:23:33,335 Speaker 2: Like a handful to. 428 00:23:33,815 --> 00:23:37,775 Speaker 3: Or you're going to be a license building pratitioner to 429 00:23:37,855 --> 00:23:42,095 Speaker 3: do that. A handful to the meter? Rough, No, but yeah, 430 00:23:42,135 --> 00:23:43,815 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, yeah it is. 431 00:23:44,375 --> 00:23:46,015 Speaker 2: Actually I took your advice. I went and got some 432 00:23:46,095 --> 00:23:48,455 Speaker 2: nitro foscar blue the other day and yeah, around hand 433 00:23:49,015 --> 00:23:52,735 Speaker 2: and it was a handful or eighty grams per square meter. 434 00:23:53,375 --> 00:23:56,295 Speaker 2: You be fair. I don't have a scale in the workshop, but. 435 00:23:56,335 --> 00:24:01,095 Speaker 3: I don't do I this is the point, and the 436 00:24:01,175 --> 00:24:03,295 Speaker 3: handful to the square meter is something that is like 437 00:24:03,535 --> 00:24:06,535 Speaker 3: is years old in gardening. It's been there all the 438 00:24:06,815 --> 00:24:08,535 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, putting your finger out there, that's 439 00:24:08,575 --> 00:24:09,095 Speaker 3: four inches. 440 00:24:11,295 --> 00:24:14,575 Speaker 2: Ayrud, Thank you mate. First to September, not the first 441 00:24:14,655 --> 00:24:16,575 Speaker 2: day of spring. We'll come down wind visit that on 442 00:24:16,615 --> 00:24:17,255 Speaker 2: the twenty first. 443 00:24:17,575 --> 00:24:19,175 Speaker 3: Now Jack Day had to go with it too. 444 00:24:20,095 --> 00:24:23,535 Speaker 2: Take care mate, Happy Father's Day, all the best, Thanks folks, 445 00:24:23,615 --> 00:24:25,455 Speaker 2: thanks for your company. It's been the absolute pleasure. See 446 00:24:25,495 --> 00:24:26,975 Speaker 2: you next Sunday. 447 00:24:29,895 --> 00:24:32,815 Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen 448 00:24:32,935 --> 00:24:35,695 Speaker 1: live to news talks'd be on Sunday mornings from six, 449 00:24:36,015 --> 00:24:38,095 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.