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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 1: global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle this Evening Philo Riley, Iron Duke Partners and

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Speaker 2: former Boss of Business New Zealand and Alie Jones from

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Speaker 2: Red PRK. Elder Cordawa, Jall, hey, Pphil, do you reckon

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Speaker 2: this is something that we overlook when we think about

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Speaker 2: you know, body I magicians affecting young people. A lot

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Speaker 2: of the focuses on young women. But do you think

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Speaker 2: this is something that perhaps has been a little overlooked.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're absolutely right, Jack. There's always been a bit

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Speaker 3: of this, and one I remember living in Sydney, you know,

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Speaker 3: twenty five thirty years ago, in some gyms in Sydney

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Speaker 3: there was I think called roid rage, you know, where

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Speaker 3: the steroids were in use to they get these mood

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Speaker 3: changes and so on. But of course it was a

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Speaker 3: very niche thing. And what's happened is the emeritus professor

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Speaker 3: there is absolutely right. What's happening is actually social media.

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Speaker 3: He mentioned movies and stuff as not movies. It's social media.

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Speaker 3: It's Instagram, it's TikTok, it's Facebook, it's the kinds of

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Speaker 3: these the kinds of social media outlets that the young

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Speaker 3: people are using these days, and that is causing some

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Speaker 3: of these problems as well as other social changes. You

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Speaker 3: know that the kids aren't be allowed out to play

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Speaker 3: in the park and so on, so they stay inside

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Speaker 3: and watch social media and so on. So there's a

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Speaker 3: real issue here about the popularization of this these body images.

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Speaker 3: And you're absolutely right. We concentrate a lot on young

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Speaker 3: women and that's entirely appropriate. We do that because there's

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Speaker 3: some real risks there. But we're also needing to have

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Speaker 3: a look at young men because they've got similar and

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Speaker 3: also different issues associated with the social media issue. And

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Speaker 3: so I think we need to as a nation ever

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Speaker 3: think about this. And yeah, banning cell phones from schools

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Speaker 3: is just one good step.

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Speaker 2: Oh you see, I'm one hundred percent with you on this. Well,

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Speaker 2: I just I can't understand the opposition to cell phones

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Speaker 2: and schools. And I know that maybe it seems a

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Speaker 2: bit trite and easy allly just to blame social media

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Speaker 2: for these kind of trends, But it seems so obviously

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Speaker 4: Well, of course it is. I mean, I'm in my fifties.

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Speaker 4: Our kids are now sort of in their twenties. But

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Speaker 4: I've got a girlfriend who works at a high school

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Speaker 4: in christ Church and she is saying that a lot

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Speaker 4: of the stuff that they're seeing in the kids, the anxiety,

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Speaker 4: the second guessing, the body image stuff is all related

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Speaker 4: to social media. What I really liked that I heard

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Speaker 4: from the professor then was he mentioned women, And I

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Speaker 4: think that's really important and filtered too, and it shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be a competition, right, But you know, women have been

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Speaker 4: dealing with this for decades and decades and in fact,

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Speaker 4: there isn't the health support around this for women and

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Speaker 4: we need to. I mean, young women are being sent

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Speaker 4: home in christ Church to die and I know that

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Speaker 4: I'm not just making that up, but they cannot look

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Speaker 4: after them. They're sending them home to die. So I

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Speaker 4: think there needs to be a public information campaign. It

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Speaker 4: needs to get into schools, you know, to hear those

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Speaker 4: things that he was talking about, anxiety, mental health, impotence, fertility, cancer, man,

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Speaker 4: get it into the schools and start saying is it

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Speaker 4: worth this?

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Speaker 3: Do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, guys, I'm going to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the Prime Minister's comments today in a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 2: plus news that crocs are apparently causing US hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 2: if not millions of dollars in health claims every year.

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Speaker 2: Ali Jones and Phil O'Riley on the Huddle right now

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Speaker 2: at sixteen to six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the

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Speaker 1: marketing of your home.

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Speaker 2: And you're back with the huddlers. Phil O'Riley I and

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Speaker 2: Duke Partner's former boss of Business New Zealand and Ali

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Speaker 2: Jones from Red PR. So, Ali, what do you make

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Speaker 2: of the Prime Minister's response to the scrutiny or attention

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Speaker 2: over the sale of his properties.

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Speaker 4: He's out of touch. He is absolutely out of touch.

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Speaker 4: It is not about resenting his wealth or someone who's successful.

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Speaker 4: I do think we have a tall poppy problem in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand, but you know you have to point the

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Speaker 4: finger where it's correct to do so. I think it's

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Speaker 4: about what's reasonable and what is not reasonable. And I

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Speaker 4: think what is not reasonable in this case is that

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Speaker 4: someone makes that amount of money from selling a house

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Speaker 4: which is essentially income and isn't taxed, and yet everyone

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Speaker 4: else earning twenty K, twenty five K, thirty K, fifty

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Speaker 4: k whatever they are taxed for their income. Now, if

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Speaker 4: Christopher Luxen and others can't see that they should be

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Speaker 4: taxed for making that, well, making any money from the

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Speaker 4: sale of a property, they're out of touch, completely out

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they're out of touch with a

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Speaker 2: lot of our listeners, because I know that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people will support Christopher luxe in this position. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know. In my view, it's a question of fairness.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Phil, Well, of course we're going

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Speaker 3: to have the Prime minister. Where is the proxy for

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Speaker 3: this debate that the left appears to want to continue

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Speaker 3: or game text with what we want to charge them

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Speaker 3: all wealth tax too so soon. It's just we're using

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Speaker 3: them as a proxy for a wider debate, and that's

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Speaker 3: entirely appropriate. That's I understand. He's the Prime minister. Here's

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Speaker 3: the danger, Jack, Yes, other people will be listening to

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Speaker 3: all of that and seeing that, seeing the stuff. He's young,

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Speaker 3: so whether he's handling it well or not, and I'll

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Speaker 3: be saying, gee, I'm not sure I want to stand

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Speaker 3: for political office if this is going to go on

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Speaker 3: about my personal affairs. So we just need to be

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Speaker 3: a bit cautious about this kind of gotcha politics around

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Speaker 3: politicians off left all the right, and because all it

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Speaker 3: does is it says less good people will stand up

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Speaker 3: and say, you know, I'll stand for parliament, I'll make

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Speaker 3: a contribution. And that's what he said he was trying

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Speaker 3: to do. By the way, he didn't make his money

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Speaker 3: through his parents or anything else, made it himself. And

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Speaker 3: we should be celebrating that in New Zealand and not

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Speaker 3: turning it into a bit of a you know, a

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Speaker 4: I think that's that's not fair. Now I'm going to

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Speaker 4: jump in here. That is not fair when you've got

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Speaker 4: someone who's making over two hundred k on the sale

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Speaker 4: of a property, and this is someone who's quite happy

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Speaker 4: to tax New Zealanders who are struggling earning money.

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Speaker 1: I think, as you said before, Jack, look gave a

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Speaker 1: tax cut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it doesn't work. He gives us mates a

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Speaker 4: tax cut.

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Speaker 3: Phil.

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Speaker 4: What he needs to understand is that what he's making

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Speaker 4: on selling a property and what everyone else is is

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Speaker 4: essentially income. Why should he be any different to anyone

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Speaker 3: I have the debate about capital gains tax. Don't need

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Speaker 3: to pull luctionin into it's my point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, Phil, just on your point though, like, don't you

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Speaker 2: think as Prime Minister, given like tax policies so central

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Speaker 2: to central government politics and central to his role, don't

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Speaker 2: you think it is kind of really important that it

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Speaker 2: actually we do look at tax policy through the leans

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Speaker 2: of his own experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, I mean I say he's promister, he's a

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Speaker 3: big boy. You can stand up for it, and he

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Speaker 3: to judge. My point is we need to make sure

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Speaker 3: that we don't just jump all over politicians of the

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Speaker 3: left all the right. I've seen this happened to politicians

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Speaker 3: of the left and the rights using personal circumstances to

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Speaker 3: really have a red hot go and what we what

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Speaker 3: we'll see is good people will say that public life

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Speaker 3: is not for me, and that's a bad thing for

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Speaker 3: our democracy. So we should just be cautious about overdoing

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Speaker 3: this and turning on I think he's a big.

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Speaker 4: Boy, Phil, I think he's a big boy. If he

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Speaker 4: can't manage that, he shouldn't be there.

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Speaker 3: He might be, but others might not be. They might

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Speaker 3: be thinking I don't want to into political life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to have my own affairs affairs. Yeah, Hey, Phil,

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Speaker 2: are you a Crocs kind of guy?

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Speaker 3: Mate? I have banned two types of shoes in my office.

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Speaker 3: One is that and one is birkenstruct It's a it's

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Speaker 3: a dismissive. Often my staff will tell you if they

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Speaker 3: were either of those in the office, crocs the worst.

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Speaker 3: They should just ban them. They should be taken off

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Speaker 3: the face of the earth. These things there. But only

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Speaker 3: are they dangerous, as we now see, they're also ugly.

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Speaker 3: And so I just take it you. If I see

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Speaker 3: people on crocs, you know, leave my office. Please go

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Speaker 3: go do something else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, Elie, I'm I'm well, I'm

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Speaker 2: surprised to learn that they're linked to so many injuries.

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Speaker 4: Oh look, it was a clickbait headline Crocs shot the

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Speaker 4: shoes that cost ACC too million. What a load of rubbish.

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Speaker 4: ACC paid out nearly two million to people with full

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Speaker 4: related claims involving jandles, high heels and crocs. And I

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Speaker 4: just want to mention to you, do you know how

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Speaker 4: many claims go in for people getting their toes stuck

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Speaker 4: in pajama trousers.

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Speaker 3: And falling over.

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Speaker 4: Oh go on, there is a massive number. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I read it somewhere. I thought you might know that

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Speaker 4: it's it's a significant number. So what do I think

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Speaker 4: we should bam pajambers as well?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, everything tax everything, that's us. Hey, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, guys, appreciate your time. This evening, fellow Riley

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Speaker 2: and Ellie Jones Huddler's this evening after six o'clo. We're

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Speaker 2: going to catch up with Brad Olsen from Inframetrics. The

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Speaker 2: latest construction consents data is out shows a twenty percent

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Speaker 2: drop year on year, and of course, even if the

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank continues cutting the ocr there's likely to be

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Speaker 2: a bit of a lag, a bit of a delay

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Speaker 2: as to how long that takes to flow through to

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Speaker 2: the construction sector at large. That being said, Infrastructure and

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Speaker 2: Housing Minister Chris Bishop has some big plans for his

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Speaker 2: portfolios in the coming month. So I'll ask Brad Olsen

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Speaker 2: how those central government policy changes might impact the construction

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Speaker 2: sector over the next week. While right now it's eight

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