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Speaker 1: It's been quite a significant background from the government on

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Speaker 1: its plans to amend the fishing laws New Zealand. First

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Speaker 1: was planning changes that would essentially allow commercial fishes to

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Speaker 1: sell undersized fish. They're are not going to do that,

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Speaker 1: and the leader, Winston Peters is with us high Winston, Hello,

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Speaker 1: why'd you change your mind?

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Speaker 2: Well? Thank me. We were hearing from a lot of

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Speaker 2: people and the issue was very very confusing and the

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Speaker 2: end it was one or the other, and we decided

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Speaker 2: that they were right for two profound reasons. One is

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Speaker 2: that it was being listened to it what we were

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Speaker 2: trying to do. And the second is that if you

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Speaker 2: were new immigrant and may have been caught now with

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Speaker 2: undersized shellfish and undersized fish, they don't know that there's

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Speaker 2: a law and all we do is reinforcing the fact

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Speaker 2: that there's no laws when the captters minimal size. So

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Speaker 2: in the end we made a decision and said no,

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Speaker 2: let's dump it, dunce and go with what people think

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Speaker 2: and see weekend sort it out.

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Speaker 1: Now the National Party appears to be taking credit for this,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Prime Minister has suggested that he had

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Speaker 1: meeting with Shane Jones this morning and it was discussed

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Speaker 1: then that the issue was dropped there after. Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: It was a meeting with Shane Jones. That is true.

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Speaker 2: The issue was dropped thereafter, but the Prime Minister's office

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Speaker 2: was warned that the purpose of the meeting would be

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Speaker 2: for us to say we are going to change the law.

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Speaker 1: So you guys had already taken that decision yourselves.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Well, Shane is a minister. Well, to tell

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Speaker 2: you the truth, we've been talking about it for days

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Speaker 2: and we confirmed it this very early this morning, chronologically,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, hours before doing the meeting with Luxon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because he I mean, the thing is, Shane Jones

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Speaker 1: has been pretty vocal in defending this until the very

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Speaker 1: last minute, then, hasn't he Because just a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago he was calling critics noisy voices.

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Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with my colleague, Shane Joones does

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Speaker 2: have a conshine to describe people that way, but he's

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Speaker 2: not beyond reason and we said to him, Shane, this

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Speaker 2: issue is getting them all alone vibes and from a

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Speaker 2: lot of people who are recreational fishing, and of course

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Speaker 2: they don't want to the outcome, which is so you

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Speaker 2: catch all the sundersized fish and so they're dead. So

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Speaker 2: you throw them back in the water and recycle the

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Speaker 2: life show to speak, as opposed to what your planning

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Speaker 2: to do, bring them back on land dead and dump

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Speaker 2: them and do that sort of stuff. I said, stick

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Speaker 2: with the perstone to bed to say, that's where they

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Speaker 2: started and we will not be wasting our time of

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Speaker 2: unnecessary controversy. And he agreed.

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Speaker 1: All right, Winston, thank you for your time. Appreciated this

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