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Speaker 2: The pre trade negotiations under way within the year. But

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Speaker 2: our film industry of course reading over these one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent tariffs on movies. So John Key on sparking up

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy. You moves to fire up tourism

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Speaker 2: seven Poser six Welcome to the day Now regulars will

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Speaker 2: know my view on the pending sale of the Fontira

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Speaker 2: consumer business. If you're not up with the Playfonterra want

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Speaker 2: to offload various brands Mainland Capity anchor the stuff you

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Speaker 2: see in the supermarkets. They argue they're better at the

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Speaker 2: bulk stuff like milk powder and the associated by products,

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Speaker 2: the R and E being of course, one of the

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Speaker 2: one of the by products of milk powder is ice

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Speaker 2: cream and cheese. So a road show was held, Explanations

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Speaker 2: were offered to the shareholders and the latest news as

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Speaker 2: we have some interested parties. Now interested parties is a

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Speaker 2: double edged sword. Good that we have people wanting to

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Speaker 2: hand over cash, that'll be good for the price of

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Speaker 2: this a bit of competition, but not so good because

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Speaker 2: interest to me means people see what Fontira don't want to,

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Speaker 2: making it a bit tricky. Is Miles Hurrel, who's been

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Speaker 2: on this program and explained very clearly why he's doing

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Speaker 2: what he's doing, And who am I, or indeed anyone

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Speaker 2: to argue with Miles, given Miles has done an amazing

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Speaker 2: job with the company and seems on a bit of

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Speaker 2: a role. But one of the interested parties is Lactalis.

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Speaker 2: Now who are they? Well, they're the biggest dairy player

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Speaker 2: in the world, which sort of backs up my point.

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Speaker 2: How is it a French dairy giant wants a bit

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Speaker 2: of what a New zealandery giant doesn't. How Come a

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Speaker 2: company in the same market sees what I see and

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Speaker 2: Fontira doesn't. What is it they can do to accompany

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Speaker 2: they buy that Fontira apparently count this is all related activity.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there's nothing stopping Fontira being good at ice

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Speaker 2: cream or butter or skim milk. Are they seemingly decide

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Speaker 2: they just don't want to be And would Miles say, Lactalis,

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Speaker 2: I suppose that their sort of scale globally could market

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Speaker 2: and sell in a way we never could. Now if

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Speaker 2: he said that, he might have a point. But until

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Speaker 2: that becomes clear, my argument, I think is still alive.

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Speaker 2: I am not convinced they are. They aren't making a

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Speaker 2: big mistake, and at this level, a very expensive one

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Speaker 2: used at the world in ninety second, Well, the big

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Speaker 2: days in Britain at the moment it's eighty years since

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Speaker 2: the end of the war V E day are there

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Speaker 2: are bank holidays galore. They've rolled out Timothy's spall, no

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Speaker 2: list to conjure up the memories, no long years to come.

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Speaker 3: Not only were the people of this island, but of

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Speaker 3: the world wherever the bird of freedom chirps in human arts,

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Speaker 3: look back to what we have done, and they will say,

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Speaker 3: do not despair.

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Speaker 2: Pet was a codebreaker.

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Speaker 4: We sort of instinctively headed to the palace. We thought

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Speaker 4: the king would have power, and they did come out

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Speaker 4: on the Belclare and everybody child and you know, a

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Speaker 4: great feeling of celebration.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. There are some very good photos this morning of

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Speaker 2: the royals on that palace balcony that are worth looking up.

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Speaker 2: And after that they set down to tea with a

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Speaker 2: few of the vets. Special at least we could do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they seem very comfortable, lovely, lovely family. As I say,

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Speaker 2: look up the pictures. Ironically, as they remember one war,

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Speaker 2: they seemingly haven't learned many lessons given a current one

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Speaker 2: is still a mess.

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Speaker 5: We decided to take intensified action in Gaza. That was

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Speaker 5: the Chief of Staff's recommendation, to move, as he said,

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Speaker 5: toward the defeat of hamas he believes this will also

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Speaker 5: help us rescue the hostages.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with him and Gaza it's all but hopeless.

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Speaker 6: We can no longer bear the pressure the war, the killing,

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Speaker 6: the death and bombing.

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Speaker 2: We can no longer endure anything. What more can happen?

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Speaker 5: Children have died, children have been displaced, children have gone hungry.

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Speaker 2: And then we come to the movie business. Roll the

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Speaker 2: credits if they're not willing to make a movie inside

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Speaker 2: the United States, and we should have a tariff when

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Speaker 7: And not only that, governments are actually giving big money.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's reporting them.

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Speaker 2: Finance, so that's sort of a threat to our country.

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Speaker 2: In a sense on that he is right and disputably,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about our role in this shortly. Finally,

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Speaker 2: insight into the American hygiene. We've got the survey from

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Speaker 2: the National Foundation from Infectious Diseases. It's found almost half

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Speaker 2: of all participants either forgot or chose not to wash

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Speaker 2: their hands at key times. Sixty two percent said washing

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Speaker 2: wash their hands at all because they either believed the

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Speaker 2: practice isn't necessary, they didn't have time, or they didn't

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Speaker 2: as the world of ninety You're going to have a

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Speaker 2: government in Germany tomorrow. I think the good Lord if

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Speaker 2: you every time we complain about negotiations and how they

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Speaker 2: take too long in this country, tried Germany. I mean,

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Speaker 2: long this is all taken. Anyway, they've literally just a

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Speaker 2: short time ago signed the actual co deal. They take

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Speaker 2: office tomorrow. This will be the CDU their barbarian sister party,

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Speaker 2: the CSU and the German Social Democrats the SPD. They

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Speaker 2: that is determined to move Germany fords with reforms and investments,

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Speaker 2: so said the new Chancellor, mister Metz. Twelve pas six.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading about Greg Able this morning. Who after the weekend,

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Speaker 2: Warren Buffet said, I'm retiring and Able was on the stage.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Now, the American economy, what are we go? We've got

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Speaker 2: some numbers. What's the read?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So the US markets that they've navigated their way

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Speaker 9: looks relatively under control. Unfortunately, at this point we had

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Speaker 8: So we just need to we need to gigg it.

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Speaker 9: Along a little bit and get it up so we

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Speaker 8: We might not get there.

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Speaker 9: So look, we continue to be reasonably hyper sensitive actually

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Speaker 9: over there to every data print. So we're trawling through

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Speaker 9: the introduction of tariffs is having on the US economy.

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Speaker 9: You know what effect is the uncertainty having. This week

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Speaker 8: Again.

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Speaker 9: Not a lot of dub this week, but overnight we

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Speaker 9: did have the Institute of Supply Managers their Services Index.

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Speaker 9: was actually a little bit better than expected. Services index

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Speaker 9: overnight similar outcome fifty one point six, So it's inexpansionary

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Speaker 9: territory and higher than the previous reading, and also higher

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Speaker 9: than economists had expected as well. So, Mike, if you

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Speaker 9: take a little step back, because you know, if in doubt,

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Speaker 9: zoom out. If I look at the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 9: the data has been reasonably resilient and probably a little

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Speaker 8: So but you dig into the detail and there are

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Speaker 9: So if I look inside the services index, this thing

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Speaker 9: what a price is doing, points to inflation that jumped

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Speaker 8: Two year high.

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Speaker 9: It's sixty five point one the next level, and forty

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Speaker 9: percent of purchasing managers are now reporting higher prices. So look,

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Speaker 9: I've warned Mike about the data that it's going to

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Speaker 9: be noisy, probably a little.

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Speaker 8: Bit more unreliable than it would normally be.

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Speaker 9: But there was an interesting comment with in all of

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Speaker 9: pricing impacts. Yes, the uncertainty is one thing, but it's

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Speaker 9: when it starts hitting the hard data. But you know, generally,

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Speaker 9: We also got the final read on the larger the

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Speaker 9: what you have seen like this slightly stronger data. You

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Speaker 9: were expecting four interest rate cuts from the Fed. This week,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so we sort of made a commitment to try

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Speaker 8: The flip side of that coin is what's happening in China.

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Speaker 9: Now, we did get a view into this last week

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Speaker 9: The headline, So you've got what's effectively a trade embargo

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Speaker 9: still above fifty, still expansionally. Admittedly it's easing, but not

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Speaker 9: not actually seeing sort of cratering damage yet. Look new

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Speaker 9: You started to see this renewed fall in exports, slight

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Speaker 9: reduction employment. Business confidence slipped to the third lowest on record.

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Speaker 9: I look at the official.

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Speaker 8: PMI that was below fifty.

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Speaker 9: Again we're seeing we're seeing some evidence their new export orders.

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Speaker 9: They're at their lowest level since December two, twenty two.

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Speaker 9: But you are seeing a theme of hesitancy across Asia.

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Speaker 9: If I look at pepper like and sort of key

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Speaker 2: Top text Mike Liam will need a new job soon

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Speaker 2: on developments in the F one. This morning, Duan's been

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Speaker 2: Seventeen eighty started It's for all money over in the

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Speaker 2: Any Dundas is the destination director at Auckland Unlimited and

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Speaker 13: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is segregating a small country into smaller bits a wise

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Speaker 13: Do, well, We've done it for a long time and

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 13: And I think we've got this so much going on here,

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Speaker 13: they're all working from home. We've got to get smarter

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Speaker 2: When you put together a coalition like this of the

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Speaker 13: Every single region has a job to do to build

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Speaker 13: We can We've kicked off with Rodaura and Auckland Airport

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Speaker 2: All power to your arm, hope it to smash hit.

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Speaker 2: Annie Dundas, who's with Auckland Unlimited with us this morning,

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Speaker 2: doing the whole North Island nineteen minutes away from seven

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Speaker 2: PASKI who is always going to be the way? Just

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Speaker 2: and ZED. Mike, I hope you're going to smash TV

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Speaker 2: we're at school, We're at kindy. This is what passes

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Speaker 2: the Chinese, fine, no problem, I'll apologize tomorrow. My suspicion

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Speaker 2: is Erica's above board, Erica's a good minister, Erica has

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Speaker 2: done nothing wrong, and this, yet again, is another monstrous

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Speaker 2: beat up by people who should know better. Eighteen to

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Speaker 2: two The.

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Speaker 2: Actually speaking of spurious reportage this business from Retail New

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Speaker 2: Zealand yesterday about the ninety nine percent of people who

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Speaker 2: had experienced either crime and no one split, the difference

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Speaker 2: and anti social behavior all piled into one story. Let

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Speaker 2: me come back to that in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Six forty five international correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand Business France.

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Speaker 2: Captaine Field, very good morning to you. Good morning man.

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Speaker 2: I've been busying myself in the early hours of this

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Speaker 2: New Zealand morning watching the balcony at the Buckingham Palace

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Speaker 2: and the royal family there, looking at the flyovers and big, big, big,

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Speaker 2: big deal in your part of the world.

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Speaker 16: Oh, absolutely huge. Eightieth anniversary of the end of the

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Speaker 16: Second World War in Europe very much subdued this time around, Mike,

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Speaker 16: and very much a focus on national rather than international

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Speaker 16: commemorations we're seeing. Of course the Brits did at first,

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Speaker 16: as they did it on Monday, which was a public

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Speaker 16: holiday there, but they did also have other troops from

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Speaker 16: other countries taking part. Of course, there were some French

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Speaker 16: troops there and also some Ukrainian troops. So that's very

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Speaker 16: much how it is. It's going to be commemorated here

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Speaker 16: in Paris on Thursday. Again very much a lo o

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Speaker 16: key type of commemoration, one that's going to be more

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Speaker 16: about remembering the values that were fought for in the

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Speaker 16: Second World War, liberty, democracy and also the sort of

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Speaker 16: shared goals. A real difference from say ten years ago, Mike,

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Speaker 16: when there was the American Secretary of State at the time.

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Speaker 16: John Kerry was here in Paris for the commemorations. Don't

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Speaker 16: think we're going to be seeing any of that type

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Speaker 16: of American presence here in Europe over the next couple

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Speaker 16: of days.

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Speaker 2: I've also been watching mister Merch sign the document that's

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Speaker 2: taken It is this unusual. I mean, we get really

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Speaker 2: angsty in this country trying to put together a coalition

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Speaker 2: and if it goes beyond two weeks where we're like

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Speaker 2: beside ourselves and this has taken a lot longer than that.

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Speaker 2: Is he going to reform Germany? Is this genuinely different

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 16: It does look as though it's going to be different.

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Speaker 16: You're quite right. Make we'd all forgotten about those German

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Speaker 16: elections because they were held back in February, so there

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Speaker 16: was a lot of time for people to get very ansty.

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Speaker 16: It does look as though he's going to change things.

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Speaker 16: It's going to shake things up. I mean one of

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Speaker 16: the first things he did was announce is going to

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Speaker 16: be this huge what is it about five hundred billion euros,

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Speaker 16: so that's what about nine hundred billion New Zealand dollars.

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Speaker 16: Fun for getting the economy going again, that's going to

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Speaker 16: be put into infrastructure. The big thing that people are

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Speaker 16: looking at on him though, mic is that he comes

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Speaker 16: from business. Even though he's been in and out of

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Speaker 16: politics several times. He says that he knows how the

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Speaker 16: country can.

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Speaker 2: Be made better.

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Speaker 16: He says he knows how it has to be more

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Speaker 16: focused towards Europe. And the other thing they're really looking

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Speaker 16: at Mike is not just the fact that Germany is

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Speaker 16: Europe's largest economy and it's got to get it back together,

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Speaker 16: but also he will be more on the right same

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Speaker 16: wavelength as French President of Manual Macron. Both of them

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Speaker 16: come from business. Let's not forget that Manual Macron's mandate

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Speaker 16: ends on two years time. So Macron's in a bit

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Speaker 16: of a hurry to get things going, to really put

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Speaker 16: his legacy as the man who helped put Europe back

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Speaker 16: on its good economic.

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Speaker 2: And sound footing.

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Speaker 16: But also Fredrick Metz, he's really and patient to show

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Speaker 16: that Germany can get back in the running and can

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Speaker 16: actually be a not just a political force for good,

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Speaker 16: but also an economic driver as it used.

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Speaker 1: To be in Europe.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's wishing, well, how is it possible? So the

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Speaker 2: Berlin the German spy agency has classified the AfD as extremist,

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Speaker 2: which means they can now monitor them and tap their

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Speaker 2: phones and do all of that. Now, this is, whether

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Speaker 2: you like them or not, a legitimate political party that

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Speaker 2: got quite a lot of support. How much angst does

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Speaker 2: that create?

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Speaker 16: Well, interestingly enough, yeah, that domestic spy agency, the fafasen Shutz,

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Speaker 16: has declared that this party is a right wing extremist

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Speaker 16: group and it bases this on the party's disregard for

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Speaker 16: human dignity. It's said that the party's prevailing understanding of

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Speaker 16: people was based on ethnicity and dissent, and it says

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Speaker 16: that's incompatible with free, democratic basic order. Now, all that means, Mike,

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Speaker 16: is that you're, as you rightly said, it could be monitored.

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Speaker 16: They can listen to their phones, they can undersetp party communications.

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Speaker 16: They cannot ban the party now, obviously, because of germany

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Speaker 16: It's history, banning a party is really a no no.

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Speaker 16: But interesting enough, leaders poll out shows that forty nine

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Speaker 16: percent of Germans are in favor of banning the AfD.

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Speaker 16: But as you rightly say, you know, the AfD has

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Speaker 16: got one hundred and fifty two seats in that new parliament.

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Speaker 16: It is the second largest parliamentary block, so how they

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Speaker 16: go about this will be very difficult. The AfD, for

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Speaker 16: its part, has said this is complete nonsense. It's blow

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Speaker 16: for democracy and they're going to challenge it in the courts.

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Speaker 2: We will, So you're seeing Katherine appreciate it as always.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field in Europe for us on Tuesday morning. By

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Speaker 2: the way, speaking of political parties, that are nation numbers

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Speaker 2: came out yesterday and they were interesting. So I'll get

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Speaker 2: to them a little bit later on the program, but

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Speaker 2: I got an insight into the economy for your next

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Speaker 2: ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The my Casking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks

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Speaker 1: be could he had all the over that surprises.

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Speaker 17: But I wouldn't be market part with you.

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Speaker 18: Another character filled in rage wonderful stuff. Can he take

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Speaker 18: us to them?

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Speaker 2: Mid session interval who knows seventeen eleven started at seventeen eight.

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Speaker 2: He was get I mean it was like something like

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Speaker 2: seven to one in the initial session yesterday. He was

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Speaker 2: getting absolutely caned and it was over, which was a

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Speaker 2: shame because he had played brilliantly through the whole tournament

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Speaker 2: but had probably been pushed to hard. The Higgins semi

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Speaker 2: final was fantastic to watch. Come on, Mike, you seem

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Speaker 2: to be someone who believes in high standard. Stanford should

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Speaker 2: be a bit smarter than a rookie mistake. I agreed. Look,

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Speaker 2: I said she's broken the rules. No one questions she's

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Speaker 2: broken the rules. It's a cabinet manuals she hasn't broken

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Speaker 2: the law. It's a cabinet manual. And the cabinet manual

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Speaker 2: says something along the lines of to your best endeavors.

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Speaker 2: But I know if you want to look up Newsroom.

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty eighteen, documents released under the Official Information

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Speaker 2: Act showed that David Clark, Kelvin Davis, Chris Fharfoyd, Chris Hopkins,

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Speaker 2: Ron Mark Eugenie said Phil Tweyfe had received official emails

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Speaker 2: at their private email addresses. They handled their official correspondent

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Speaker 2: slightly differently. Hipken said there was regular interaction between his

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Speaker 2: private and official duties. Diary contained both personal official appointments,

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Speaker 2: for example, but he maintained that he forards all official

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Speaker 2: corresponders to a senior private secretary so that they become

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Speaker 2: public records. So he's defending himself. Then he was breaking

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Speaker 2: the rules back in eighteen. So why isn't our newsroom

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Speaker 2: asking him, by the way, while I've got you on

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Speaker 2: the phone here in twenty twenty five, Chris, back in eighteen,

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Speaker 2: you were doing exactly the same thing. Do you see

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Speaker 2: yourself as a hypocrite? Five minutes away from seven?

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, our new numbers from the fine folks at Centric's

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Speaker 2: Credit and Decatur for March mixed bag. We've got a

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Speaker 2: mixed bag. After a couple of months of falling a riars,

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Speaker 2: March saw the numbers rise up nine thousand. We got

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Speaker 2: four hundred and ninety thousand of US twelve point six

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Speaker 2: percent of US with credit debt. That rises an unusual

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Speaker 2: because it's got that seasonal peak fiber bat. But some

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Speaker 2: long weekends Easter Anzac Day, we go out and spend

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Speaker 2: a bit of money. Then we realized we didn't have

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Speaker 2: the money to spend in the first place. One hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy thousand of US Ober a month late on payments,

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Speaker 2: which is down a little bit first time since February

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Speaker 2: last year. That personal loan areas are back over ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Not good vehicle loan areas. Credit card areas up per

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Speaker 2: smage to five point eight percent and four point seven

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Speaker 2: percent percent respectively in get easier money from the bank.

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Speaker 2: So it means we're not using the BNPL as much

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Speaker 2: as we used to. Home loan areas their upper smage

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Speaker 2: over and above seasonal expectation. So we've got twenty four

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Speaker 2: thousand residential mortgages there past due. Is that a lot?

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Speaker 2: Not really, it's one point five eight percent of mortgages,

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Speaker 2: So ninety eight point four six percent of us are fine.

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Speaker 2: New mortgage lending is up significantly. Household lending is up significantly.

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Speaker 2: Business credit demand is up a bit bigger arts and

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Speaker 2: rex sector up twenty three percent, property up twenty one

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Speaker 2: financial services up twenty credit defaults. Business credit defaults also

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Speaker 2: up to faults at thirty eight percent in transport, twenty

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Speaker 2: nine percent in construction. I note that across the Tasman

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Speaker 2: from Westpac, fewer customers struggling to make loan repayments, so

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Speaker 2: they're okay. And Westpac came in with their profit. Do

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Speaker 2: they make a profit here in New Zealand? West Pec?

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Speaker 2: You bet they did. For the six months to March

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Speaker 2: ten percent rise half a billion, five hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars worth of profit. What's that margin, Mike? Oh,

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Speaker 2: the ness interrist margin. Yes, let me tell you that's up.

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Speaker 2: It's gone up. So it's bigger than it was. What

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Speaker 2: a surprise. So they bumped that by fifteen basis points

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Speaker 2: to two point two six percent. Is that higher, Mike

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Speaker 2: than it is in Australia? Yes, it is, Mike. So

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Speaker 2: could the banks on this particular part of the world

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Speaker 2: be gouging us a little bit? Quite possible, Michael, India

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Speaker 2: free Trade, Tim Grosser, he's with us. Next.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: my costing Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news Togsdad be.

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Speaker 2: Buding a as past seven just before we get to

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Speaker 2: the free trade deal with India. This much about the

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Speaker 2: rads would.

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Speaker 18: Love to go the same scrip with bold players leave

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Speaker 18: the arena. Can you believe it? We're talking about the

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Speaker 18: one train. We've got to misessments of all incredible stuff

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Speaker 18: from Mark Williams.

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Speaker 17: What a tell?

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Speaker 18: Gain still trails old seventeen twelve.

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Speaker 2: Then the snooker. This is the final A few are

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Speaker 2: just joined us this morning right to try next step

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Speaker 2: in our year's long journey to try and get this

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Speaker 2: FTA with India. The government delegations landed in New Delhi

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Speaker 2: for the first in person round of negotiations. The politics

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Speaker 2: of it is interesting. The Government of Courses promised this

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Speaker 2: deal in their first term, so what chance? Former trade

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Speaker 2: mines to Tim Grosser, but there's Tim morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: What are your assessment of the chances?

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Speaker 14: Well, look, if past form were any guide, they would

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Speaker 14: not be very encouraging. But I think the landscape and

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Speaker 14: I'll elaborate on in a second, but the landscape is

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Speaker 14: changed as a result of Trump's trade bombs, and I'm

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Speaker 14: thinking that will change the odds of pulling this off.

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Speaker 14: And it's a good idea anyway, to have a go,

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Speaker 14: whatever the chances of success are, because this is the

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Speaker 14: world's emerging third largest economy and we are undoubtedly will

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Speaker 14: have a much bigger economic future with India regardless of

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Speaker 14: how the talks go.

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Speaker 2: Is the political overlayer problem for us? When you promise

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Speaker 2: it will be done term one, the pressure's on you

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Speaker 2: and the Indians know it, don't they.

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Speaker 14: Oh, look, I don't think that's a real issue. The

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Speaker 14: negotiations will run their normal course of events, and as

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Speaker 14: long as the government's making a lot of progress in

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Speaker 14: the period of time, I don't think this is a

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Speaker 14: large issue. The larger issue is India with a track

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Speaker 14: record or walking away from negotiations. Is India now prepared

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Speaker 14: to move forward commensurate with its enormous future role in

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Speaker 14: global trade? And that is something that has to be

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Speaker 14: answered by India not buying New.

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Speaker 2: Zealand exactly as you would well understand, we then have

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Speaker 2: a deal versus a deal. I mean, just getting a

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Speaker 2: deal can't be hard if you're prepared to give everything

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Speaker 2: a why do we get a good deal?

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Speaker 14: Well, we've we've got very little to give away because

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Speaker 14: of already an open economy. The Indians will not do

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Speaker 14: this because they want better access to New Zealand. The

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Speaker 14: Indians will do this because they see a broad a

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Speaker 14: strategic rationale. And that's where I come back full circle.

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Speaker 14: So look, just go back on the history of this.

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Speaker 14: John Key and I started a negotiation exactly on these

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Speaker 14: lines in twenty ten. The Indians who have a track

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Speaker 14: quick word of moving unbelievably slowly on international trade issues,

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Speaker 14: took this into ten rounds of negotiations. The bilateral FDA

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Speaker 14: was abandoned in twenty I think twenty fifteen when India

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Speaker 14: joined the larger FDA idea of this Asia Pacific thing

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Speaker 14: called the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement, which involved China,

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Speaker 14: the Southeast Asians, Australia, New Zealand, and even that fell

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Speaker 14: apart when India was invited to leave the negotiations. So

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Speaker 14: India has got this very protectionist history, but I think

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Speaker 14: India is coming out of that, out of that, and

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Speaker 14: I think there's a real chance of.

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Speaker 17: Pulling this off.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Tim, Nice to talk to you again. Tim Grosser,

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Speaker 2: former Trade minister, speaking which Donkey's on the program just

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Speaker 2: after seven to thirty on other matters this morning, although

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Speaker 2: we'll cover that off obviously. Ten past seven PASKW the

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Speaker 2: old farm conversion debates back as we get the latest

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Speaker 2: numbers around stocks. So the number of sheep has dropped

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Speaker 2: twenty one percent over the past decade. We're down to

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Speaker 2: twenty three and a bit million of them. Dairy cattle

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Speaker 2: numbers are down thirteen percent. Beef cattles holding steady. Now

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Speaker 2: these figures come out the same day, of course, as

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Speaker 2: we hear another couple of Hawk's Bay farms have been

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Speaker 2: flicked offshore for forest reconversion. The Associate ag Minister is

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Speaker 2: Andrew Hogart of course is whether it's Andrew morning to.

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Speaker 15: You, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Do you take a side on conversion? Where are you

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Speaker 2: at with it?

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Speaker 15: Well, obviously the government's still got legislation coming forward that

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Speaker 15: will do a moratorium on these full farm forestry conversions

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Speaker 15: and then allow cap for the sort of lower class

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Speaker 15: land of how much can be done. So look, personally,

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Speaker 15: I do think it's a concern where you have these

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Speaker 15: complete whole farm conversions. I prefer to see a mosaic.

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Speaker 15: You should be able to have good quality land doing

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Speaker 15: stock or crops, and yes, some of the poorer quality

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Speaker 15: land put it in forestry. That's as a farmer, that's

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Speaker 15: a sensible way to do it.

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Speaker 2: And given the numbers we're getting from export at the moment,

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Speaker 2: is the drop twofold question? Is the drop in stock

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Speaker 2: purely conversion related? And if the drop and stock doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter how it's dropped, are we worried that we're not

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Speaker 2: doing enough when we can get good money for what

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Speaker 2: we make.

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Speaker 15: Well, we're still you know, primary production across the country

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Speaker 15: is still earning, is projected to earn more and more.

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Speaker 15: You look at horticulture that's going up. So I mean

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Speaker 15: some of the drop and dairy is because of people

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Speaker 15: switching to kiwi fruit and apples. You know, That's how

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Speaker 15: New Zealand farming has succeeded over the years of having

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Speaker 15: that land use change going to where the better value is.

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Speaker 15: So you know it, we're still good personally. I think

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Speaker 15: there's also a cost element to this with RIMA and

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Speaker 15: all the other rules and regulations that kind of hold

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Speaker 15: farmers back. And you know, I visited a farm where

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Speaker 15: the guy had all these wetland rules in place on

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Speaker 15: him and all this fencing requirements he had to do,

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Speaker 15: and in the end it was just listened to, bloody heart,

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Speaker 15: I'll just put it all in the forestry. So there's

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Speaker 15: an element of the work we're doing around rm A

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Speaker 15: that I hope will provide a bit more common sense

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Speaker 15: and sensibility going forward to farmers to make smart decisions

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Speaker 15: on their farm and not just give up in plant trees.

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Speaker 2: While I've got you, you're going to be on the

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Speaker 2: Fontierra consumer sale.

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Speaker 15: Well as a Fonterra shot.

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Speaker 10: Are you I do?

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Speaker 15: I think you know, I'm waiting to see the you know,

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Speaker 15: the full detail of it. But historically we haven't made

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Speaker 15: a great deal of return from these consumer products, and

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Speaker 15: you know, it's been a good return. And obviously we're

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Speaker 15: attached to these brands, but actually it's this consumer business

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Speaker 15: or the business to business side of it that's actually

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Speaker 15: runing the real returns. And so you know, I want

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Speaker 15: to see my money invested or it's going to generate

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Speaker 15: the most return.

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Speaker 2: Good insight. I appreciate it very much. Andrew Hoggard, the

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Speaker 2: Associate Agriculture Minster, speaking of which are ten minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: The two farms we referred to in Hawk's Bay, one

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Speaker 2: was eight hundred hectares, the other was four eighty hectares,

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Speaker 2: and they're sold for I mean, look, I know it's

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Speaker 2: a lot of money, but if you live in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: it's not eight hundred hectares of prime land sold for

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Speaker 2: eight million, four hundred and eighty hectares five million in

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Speaker 2: buy a house worth more than that in Auckland. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if we're selling it off too cheap. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, the and the reason the sheep stock

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Speaker 2: numbers we should be worried about. Westpac they had a

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Speaker 2: look at all of this and therefore casting a milk

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Speaker 2: prime of ten thirty for the season next season ten bucks.

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Speaker 2: It's big money, so we need sheep and cows and

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Speaker 2: all of that. Meat prices they see further increases beef

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Speaker 2: prices are production constraints in the state, so we're taking

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Speaker 2: advantage of that. The tariff's likely to be manageable. They

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Speaker 2: reckon lamb more. They expected to lift strong demand out

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Speaker 2: of Europe in the Middle East. Hought elevated and remaining

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Speaker 2: elevated orchard that's Kiwi fruit apples, elevated gangbusters. The only

775
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Speaker 2: bad news is locks. So we're planting trees and the

776
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Speaker 2: logs don't earn as much money. The stuff we're getting

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Speaker 2: rid of it is earning money like we've never seen.

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Speaker 2: Be John Key Shortley Nickbrand after right seventeen past seven, Well,

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Speaker 2: the Trump ideology is well and truly landed on New

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Speaker 2: Zealand shores of the universal ten percent on everything didn't

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Speaker 2: rip unity. How about the one hundred percent on movies

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Speaker 2: made outside America.

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Speaker 7: I'm not looking to hurt the Indus, joy, I want

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Speaker 7: to help the industry, but they're given financing by other countries.

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Speaker 7: They've given a lot of things, and the industry was decimated.

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Speaker 7: If you look at how little is done in this

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Speaker 7: country now, you know, you think we were the ones

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Speaker 7: We used to do one hundred not long ago, one

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Speaker 7: hundred percent. Now we do almost like very Little's shuck in.

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Speaker 2: Screen Production Development to Assistant president Associate president Iron Gardeners

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Speaker 2: with us iren.

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Speaker 19: Good morning, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: He's right, isn't he. We subsidize and he wants to

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Speaker 2: balance the playing field.

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Speaker 19: Well, he's not entirely right, because actually the problem he's

798
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Speaker 19: trying to solve, which is building in particular Hollywood LA

799
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Speaker 19: back up again. There's a few contributing factors there to

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Speaker 19: do with COVID, the strikes, the fires, and there'd actually

801
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Speaker 19: be different ways to do that, including looking at their

802
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 19: own incentives and the type of films they make and

803
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 19: so on and so forth. So he's kind of that's

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Speaker 19: the problem I think he's trying to solve because he

805
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Speaker 19: hasn't quite got his green industry terminal. You right, He's

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Speaker 19: actually talked about films not made in America getting the

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Speaker 19: terrifle that would actually not be American films that shoot

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Speaker 19: somewhere else, that would actually be you know, like a

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Speaker 19: New Zealand film like Tina couldn't go there. But I

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Speaker 19: don't think that's what he means. What he means is

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Speaker 19: the big films that are taking an incentive.

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Speaker 2: Do you actually know, I mean, no one knows what

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Speaker 2: he means, does he? So, so what happens you shoot?

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Speaker 2: You shoot something in Los Angeles, then you flick a

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Speaker 2: bit of it off to wetter and then they finish

816
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Speaker 2: it off somewhere else and then they take it back

817
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Speaker 2: to America. Now is that American made or not?

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Speaker 19: Well, see, that's still an American movie, it's still in

819
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Speaker 19: American production. That's where it's terminology is quite confusing. And

820
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Speaker 19: so I don't know how you could actually do what

821
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Speaker 19: he is talking about doing. And I guess that's what

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Speaker 19: will shake down in the next few days. And that's

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Speaker 19: why I would tell you our members and other screen

824
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Speaker 19: industry not to panic. But but you know, people do

825
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Speaker 19: get very unsettled because the American movie is either shooting

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Speaker 19: here or post producing here, you know, using wetter special

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Speaker 19: effects or whatever. That's a huge chunk our screen industry money.

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Speaker 19: And you wouldn't want to lose that, and you wouldn't

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Speaker 19: want to lose the training grounds and all of that,

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Speaker 19: and it won't actually help solve the problem. And people

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Speaker 19: don't only shoot in a territory because of the incentives.

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Speaker 19: I mean they shoot in New Zealand sometimes because of

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Speaker 19: physical things. We've got landscape things exactly. So it's all

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Speaker 19: a little confusing. And I would, you know, just because

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Speaker 19: a lot of our producer members are local producers, I

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Speaker 19: would just say the reason you need to keep local

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Speaker 19: strong because international can be very variable.

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Speaker 2: Good on you iren, listen. Once it shuts down, we

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Speaker 2: know what the hell's going on. We'll get you back

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Speaker 2: on and have a longer conversation. I think I have

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Speaker 2: a solution to a problem that was presented to us

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Speaker 2: by the bureaucracy yesterday, who presented some data that said

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Speaker 2: this is not good. We don't know why it's happening.

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Speaker 2: I might have an answer.

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Speaker 2: Now more of them than ever have left the country.

869
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: Officialdom here doesn't know if they're enrolled off shore or

870
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: here's the critical point why they left. Fortunately I can help, well,

871
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: at least a little bit. We had one leave, couldn't

872
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: get out fast enough, went off and studied. We have

873
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: a niece currently studying offshore. We also have a nephew

874
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: who left, studied and graduated last year. They were or

875
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: are all bright, all got top marks, and here is

876
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: official them's answer. All wanted to get the hell out

877
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: of here. Studying at an overseas university has become a

878
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: thing in the last handful of years. In one way,

879
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: it is no different to the vast ways of other

880
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: New Zealanders who have set records exiting in the past

881
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: couple of years as well. In simple terms, the brighter

882
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: you are, the more prospects you have. Part of your

883
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: brain power and academic success will have led you to

884
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: the realization that there is a big world out there

885
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: with a lot of opportunities. You want a slice of

886
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: this action. Anecdotally, as regards higher study, post secondary school,

887
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: I can tell you the amount of Marian doctrination at

888
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: high school these days is not just absurd, but counterproductive.

889
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 15: Now.

890
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: I know it's not PC to say that, and I

891
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: know it's not scientifically fact based, but I know what

892
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: kids tell me. And even in this current generation, which

893
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: is far more willing and open to this type of

894
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: bilingual Mari based approach to learning, by the time you've

895
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: had five years of it at high school, you're done

896
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: what they failed the Grip when they were hell bent

897
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: for leather. And this applies to broader life in New Zealand,

898
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: ranging for Mari names of government departments to news greetings

899
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: on the television at night. If you overegg something, you

900
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: get pushback, which is where we are right now. But

901
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: I think there also must be some acceptance that is

902
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: a small, insular country at the bottom of the world.

903
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: When times are tough, the world remains shiny and brains

904
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: get you access. I would have once said, and this

905
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: is the really sad part about this, I would have

906
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: once said, most come home. But I look at our

907
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: wider family and I'm not sure that's actually true anymore.

908
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Asking the real issue isn't the price farm self, for

909
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: it's the economic loss from the drop in productivity. It's

910
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: a very good point. It's a very good point. If

911
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: you plant a tree, what are you getting out of

912
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: the land as opposed to sheep and cows and the

913
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: sort of money we're making at the moment. Thank you,

914
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: Mike for the accurate context. Whereece Stanford's email situation, Mike's

915
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: double standards. As it seems, Erica Stanford has so much

916
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: credit in my bank. I'm not interested in this email saga.

917
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: It's been addressed with her. Are more interested in how

918
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: she's reforming education. Very good point. Political capital counts. Of course,

919
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: if she was a weak link, it might be different.

920
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: But I take lux and yet again, you could see

921
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: him yesterday going, honestly, are we dealing with this? Is

922
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: this the sort of crap I have to deal with?

923
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: Mike ree Stanford? The fact T, B and Z has

924
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: devoted so much time to attempting to smear this woman's

925
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: good name only goes to show how nervous they are

926
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: of her popularity. I think you've overregged that. I don't

927
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: think that's true. I don't think they run that overta

928
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: and agenda, but they're certainly doing themselves. No favors, and

929
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 2: I do reiterate TV three ran with the same thing.

930
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: It's not just TV and Z, although T B and

931
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: z's got the story and TV three copied it, and

932
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: god knows how TV and Z justify part two tonight.

933
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: I think on some of these coalition issues, such as

934
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: yesterday's texting after Chris Hipkins would be far better off

935
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: to make a comment along the lines of there was

936
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: nothing to see here. That's an excellent point for a

937
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: blow through. Said he wasn't going to bark at every

938
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: dog and passing car, or barking every passing car or whatever.

939
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: City wasn't going to do. He is, and he undermines himself,

940
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: especially as a person who's done it himself.

941
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic hosking

942
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life your Way, News,

943
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: togs Hea'd be.

944
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: He's over, and the snooker train.

945
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 18: Went treking the nerves at jaymin which I.

946
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: Certain they are.

947
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 19: So wills he came here.

948
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 18: Tonight just playing for pride. I'd buy did his turbos

949
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 18: with pride on his performance. But I always thought jaos

950
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 18: in tongue the way he's been playing when he got

951
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 18: that one.

952
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: Chance he just found she would take it.

953
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: What a town, what a player, as your.

954
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 18: First ever champion of the world is absolutely tremendous.

955
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that's so Chaosingtong first, as he mentioned Chinese players.

956
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: Certainly the cloud. He was part of the cheating scandal,

957
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: the betting scandal, and he'd been banned for two years

958
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: and he's only just come back. But he's right, he

959
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: is a talent twenty two minutes away from aquis right.

960
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: But the business in this country whose hundreds to gather

961
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: at the inaugural Lighthouse Ignite twenty five to summit. The

962
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: plan has to stark business led growth in the economy

963
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: to start. Turn is to John Key, who is with us.

964
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: Very good morning to you, Mollie, Mike. Are we in

965
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: need of a shot in the arm?

966
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 12: Oh yeah.

967
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: Look, I think if you walk out there at the

968
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 6: moment and ask people what's the business environment like, I

969
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 6: think most people would say it's been pretty tough over

970
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 6: the last eighteen months, a few years. But you know,

971
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 6: a bit, as they say in ice hockey, it's a

972
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 6: little bit less about where the puck's been, a bit

973
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 6: more about where it's going. And I think the fundamental

974
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: reason we've been in such bad shape is because interest

975
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 6: rates have been in the wrong place, and that's been

976
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 6: a slightly self induced position. Too much been by the

977
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 6: previous government, too much pressure, pretty slow to react I

978
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 6: think personally on the en straight environment from the Reserve Bank.

979
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 6: So have you accept that argument in straits have been lowered.

980
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 6: I think actually they're going to come down even more.

981
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 6: I mean, it's less predictable from here. Still think they

982
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: they're lower and you'll start breathing some confidence back. And

983
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 6: I think you're very slowly saying to see that in

984
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 6: the housing market, agriculture, as you've pointed out in your

985
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 6: show many times, is on fire. And actually I think

986
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 6: there's some things the government are doing. I mean my

987
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: understanding is the uptake of this high neck with individual

988
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 6: visa category is really starting to pour it in big way.

989
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 6: So again, you know, there's some light at the end

990
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 6: of the tunnel.

991
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: Really, Okay, having said all of that, do we know

992
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: where the puck is going when we've got a bloke

993
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: in America who's changing the rules literally on a daily basis.

994
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, to describe as unpredictable would

995
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: be you know, an understatement. But let's just take one

996
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: step back and say, what do we know? Okay, so

997
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: Donald Trump hates trade, has go look at the videos

998
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: of the forty years ago. He hasn't Changed's saying the

999
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: same thing as he was then as he is now,

1000
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 6: and he fundamentally thinks that the playing field is not

1001
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 6: level and America gets taken advantage of now to a degree,

1002
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 6: to a level playing field. Right, Not so I agree

1003
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 6: with his policies. I'm saying it's god point. So then

1004
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 6: you still say, okay, well he's put on these massive

1005
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 6: tariffs and what did he get? An enormous vomit from

1006
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 6: the stock market and the bond markets, and that forced

1007
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: him to take them off of everyone except China.

1008
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 10: So it's part China up for a few seconds.

1009
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 6: I was there last week at shit in China. But

1010
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 6: take that out, you know, take that off the table

1011
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 6: for a second, because they're an individual case. Then what

1012
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 6: he's sort of saying is well, I'm going to negotiate

1013
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 6: with people, and I'm going to negotiate with countries. We'll

1014
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 6: see how it all goes. If you don't play ball,

1015
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 6: I'll put it back on. But he is the best predictor.

1016
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 6: I think the markets, and that is the markets themselves,

1017
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 6: the stop market, the bond markets, currency markets. They are

1018
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 6: not buying that he's leaving massive tariffs on When he

1019
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 6: put them on, they had a terrible reaction, you know,

1020
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 6: as Andrew Kalaher points out on your show every morning.

1021
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 6: You know, that's not been the situation for the last

1022
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 6: twelve days. So these people are pretty smart and they've

1023
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 6: worked out that he's going to negotiate some solution.

1024
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, India, our boots are on the ground for this FTA.

1025
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: You tried, you couldn't do it. Will they this time

1026
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: and will it be quality?

1027
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 10: Got a better chance with Mumhu, with Mody.

1028
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 6: I was then with mum Hun Sing lovely man actually

1029
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 6: passed away recently.

1030
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 10: But you know I was up against the bureaucracy and

1031
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 10: never want to do it.

1032
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: I think this is the way to look at it

1033
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 6: is that I think if you believe you're going to

1034
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 6: get a comprehensive, you know, incredible suit in US FTA

1035
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 6: with India in day one, then I think you're going

1036
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 6: to be disappointed. And I mean I remember standing in

1037
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 6: the Beehive theaterre doing a press conference with the visiting

1038
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 6: then India Minister of Trade from India, and he said,

1039
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: I'll do an STA with.

1040
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 10: New Zealand on the podium right.

1041
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 6: Here, right now, And I said, yeah, but you'll exclude

1042
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 6: agriculture and you'll exclude all the little things we want

1043
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 6: right And it's like a lot of things, like you

1044
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 6: can write anything down, but if you exclude the bits

1045
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 6: of matter, it doesn't do much. So my point would

1046
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 6: be you can always get an FDA. That's not the judge.

1047
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 6: It's the quality or the tests. It's the quality of

1048
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 6: what actually comes out the other end. But I suspect

1049
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 6: what's going to happen is they're going to get what

1050
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 6: in sort of trade talk is called the early harvest.

1051
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 6: I think they'll get certain categories where they'll get some game.

1052
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 6: So for the likes of maybe a zespre for instance,

1053
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 6: could be really really important and really.

1054
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 10: Useful across the board.

1055
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 6: That takes a much longer period of time.

1056
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: You made a very good point about the trump point,

1057
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: which is that it's not a level playing field. And

1058
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: one of the people who moved the level playing field

1059
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: away from being leveled was you. When you're older, Jackson

1060
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: into Premier House and the LTD all those years ago

1061
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: and on that Trump is right, isn't he.

1062
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, no, Look here's the deal.

1063
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 6: I mean when we put in the incentives, which there

1064
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 6: were already something sentences there, but we fundamentally made them

1065
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 6: better than let's be ones for the movie industry.

1066
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 10: I remember the.

1067
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 6: Discussions around the cabinet, and you know, it's like a

1068
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 6: lot ofs around the cabinet table. You may not like

1069
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 6: what you suggested. You just like the alternative even less,

1070
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 6: which was they were going to go to the UK

1071
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 6: and make the Hobbits over there. Peda didn't want to go,

1072
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 6: if you want to. Brothers thought he'd make a better

1073
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 6: movie in a series of movies in New Zealand, like

1074
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: he did. But the reality was that it's just a

1075
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 6: business that gravitates to where the incentives are the greatest.

1076
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 6: And so you've seen a hollowing out of the movie

1077
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 6: industry in Hollywood. And so Trump is right about that actually,

1078
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: and so I guess my point. I think if we

1079
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 6: all sit there and say, if he really can put

1080
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 6: one hundred percent tariff on and let's a very significant terror,

1081
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 6: I don't know exactly where it applies, like for instance,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, there's only so much AI generation.

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Speaker 10: You might want to do of a backdrop that.

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Speaker 6: Was used in the making of many movies that have

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Speaker 6: used New Zeale landscape, or where you've used very specific

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Speaker 6: technology out of where the workshops. So let's just argue

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Speaker 6: for moments of very large terror. Then there's just no

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Speaker 6: getting away from the fact that it will completely rebalance

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Speaker 6: the cost effectiveness of where things are made. But on

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Speaker 6: the other side of the coin, the only point it'd

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Speaker 6: sort of make is that if that meant that everyone

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Speaker 6: eliminated any kind of subsidies, then interestingly enough, actually New

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Speaker 6: Zalem went on that basis because we've always been a

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Speaker 6: really good place to do things because of the skills

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Speaker 6: and talent here and the natural landscape exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was talking before the news about kids leaving the

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Speaker 2: country and the numbers and generally New Zealanders leaving the country.

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Speaker 2: As a person who can live in you where the

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Speaker 2: world are you bullish for this place?

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Speaker 10: Still? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know the sort of argments that you

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Speaker 6: hear sometimes.

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Speaker 10: You know, we're a giant retirement village and with this.

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Speaker 6: And with that, yeah, yeah, okay, but I get that,

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Speaker 6: and I don't want to be some sort of ridiculous Pollyanna.

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Speaker 10: But you know, I travel the world quite a lot.

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Speaker 6: I'm off the States next week, and as I was

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Speaker 6: in China last week.

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Speaker 10: You still get that feeling when.

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Speaker 6: You come home to New Zealand where there's it's more

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Speaker 6: than just look it's a nice place to live in there.

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Speaker 6: Every country you go to has significant problems. I mean,

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Speaker 6: just list them in the United States, from racial issues

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Speaker 6: to break trust in the systems, to it no longer

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Speaker 6: independent judiciary. I mean, you just go on and on

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Speaker 6: and on, can't you. But it still doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 6: not a great place to live. So my point is

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Speaker 6: that it's the same one I always used to make

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Speaker 6: when I was prime.

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Speaker 10: Ands.

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Speaker 6: Look, we have tyranny of distance, always been our problem.

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Speaker 10: We're at the bottom of the world.

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Speaker 6: Well, actually technology is changing that very rapidly in helping us.

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Speaker 6: We also are very small. So while you know, like

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Speaker 6: you know, I have sympathy for Chris la since PM

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Speaker 6: slow to turn things around, but we're still a lot

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Speaker 6: quicker to turn around in a bigger country. I mean,

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Speaker 6: can we with the right policies, with the rights of

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Speaker 6: the level of confidence, with the right sense of enthusiasm.

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Speaker 6: Could we actually make New Zealand, you know, a fantastic

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Speaker 6: better place than it currently is. The answer is absolutely.

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Speaker 6: And I always thought, you know, like we campaigned three

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Speaker 6: elections on ambitious for New Zealand building a brighter future.

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Speaker 10: Why do we do that?

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Speaker 6: Because that resonated number one with voters of anything we

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Speaker 6: ever tested through a focus group, and that shows you

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Speaker 6: people want their country to do really well. And actually,

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Speaker 6: for the most part, New Zealand is a hard.

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Speaker 10: Working, decent people.

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Speaker 6: We actually do have decent institutions, like you know, a

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Speaker 6: very loyal and dependable police force and the proper judiciary

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Speaker 6: and all those things. So I guess that's a long

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Speaker 6: winded way of saying we're a great place to grow things,

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Speaker 6: We're a beautiful place to visit. We do have some

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Speaker 6: very smart man do we need to do a hell

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Speaker 6: of a lot better and pulus socks up? And actually

1147
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Speaker 6: do we need to be more welcoming to foreign capital?

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Speaker 6: Smart foreigners who want to come and live here.

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Speaker 10: People who want.

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Speaker 6: To stop them these stupid things like oh I can't

1151
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Speaker 6: come here and buy a house. I mean, for God's say,

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Speaker 6: if they've got an IQ that's well above one hundred

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Speaker 6: and they're bringing capital or whatever. Let's have them in

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Speaker 6: the country generating jobs. But can we do it? The

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Speaker 6: abser is absolutely we can.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. I always good to talk to. You appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: So John Key thirteen away from.

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Speaker 1: A good the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: I won't read the text on John Key. You know

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Speaker 2: what they say. Eighty home ownership specialists are currently being

1162
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Speaker 2: hired by ASB. Big surge coming and this will be

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Speaker 2: applicable to wallbanks. I'm assuming big surge coming in home

1164
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Speaker 2: line applications on the fixed and interest rates a moving

1165
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Speaker 2: and people are wanting to do business. So somebody's getting

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Speaker 2: a job, which I assume is encouraging by the way.

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Speaker 2: Mike Watz, who got rolled the other day out of

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration, this morning Smash which is an app

1169
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Speaker 2: that runs an app Schmart runs. It's in Israeli founded app.

1170
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Speaker 2: It acts as a modified version of Signal. Waltz liked Signal,

1171
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Speaker 2: hig Seth likes Signal. Problem with Signal as it's open

1172
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Speaker 2: to being hacked. Guess what that's right, it's been upon detection.

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Speaker 2: We acted quickly to contain it and engaged an external

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Speaker 2: cybersecurity firm to support our investigation. Out of an abundance

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Speaker 2: of caution, all tele message services have been temporarily suspended,

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Speaker 2: so you can see why he's ended up at the

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Speaker 2: up at the un Let me come back to the

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Speaker 2: retail business yesterday and the crime around retail and whether

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Speaker 2: it's getting worse, whether we're just complating a couple of

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Speaker 2: issues here eight to eight.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs head Bes.

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Speaker 2: Slicks away from it. The reason we're not interviewing anybody

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Speaker 2: about the Retail New Zealand survey on the fact that

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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of its membership experience some form of

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Speaker 2: crime slash anti social behavior is because we have on

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Speaker 2: this program a BS detector and as soon as that

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Speaker 2: came out yesterday, it went whoop, warp whop, which is

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Speaker 2: what our BS detector does. It's a whoop anyway, ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent, it's up from ninety three percent. What does

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Speaker 2: this actually mean? And more importantly, why don't they make

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Speaker 2: a distinction. This is not to defend crime in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form or gormless morons who do stupid stuff

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Speaker 2: and retail outlets. Don't get me wrong here for a second,

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Speaker 2: but there are two different things. Crime is one thing.

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Speaker 2: Antisocial behavior is something completely different. So if you lump

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Speaker 2: social behavior or anti social behavior in with the crime figure,

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Speaker 2: guess what you're going to have. Virtually everyone, when was

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Speaker 2: the last time you encountered any form of antisocial behavior?

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Speaker 2: Every single one of us in life has encountered antisocial behavior.

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Speaker 2: We haven't necessarily encountered crime because they're in a different category. So,

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Speaker 2: in trying to spook the story, as so often as

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Speaker 2: the case, what happens is the body that represents the people,

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Speaker 2: whether it be consumer, whether it be retail New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: whether it is a union, whether it's a charity looking

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Speaker 2: to spruit their particular cause for the week, what they

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Speaker 2: do is they conduct a survey, they come up with

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Speaker 2: some alarmist number and they go look look Generally, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: most newsrooms get sucked in by that and they give

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Speaker 2: them the coverage that they were so desperately wanting. What

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Speaker 2: isn't good And we will talk to Mark about this tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Report a physical violence and assault, that is crime, that

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Speaker 2: is real, and that is a problem. It's running about

1214
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Speaker 2: three hundred and forty three incidents per month. Now, the

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Speaker 2: other part that I noted yet again where the retailers

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Speaker 2: could be on board, is that they don't report this,

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Speaker 2: and they don't report this because they have decided that

1218
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Speaker 2: it's not worth it. Now, if you decide not to

1219
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Speaker 2: report something because you've decided it's not worth it, that's

1220
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Speaker 2: on you, not on the authorities. If you report something

1221
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Speaker 2: and nothing is done about it, then you've got yourself

1222
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Speaker 2: a complaint and will give you the coverage. But if

1223
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Speaker 2: you're just sitting there having been bowled over by whatever,

1224
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Speaker 2: some figure came through your door and you go on,

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Speaker 2: cops aren't going to do anything about it, I can't

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Speaker 2: be bothered. Fine, then don't but don't complain about it,

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Speaker 2: and don't participate in the survey that gives false claims

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Speaker 2: and false figures. Anyway, As I say, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell about this tomorrow on the program after eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of police, Mike Bush going to Victoria. So Mike Bush,

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Speaker 2: good bloke, nice guy, thoroughly enjoyed dealing with him as

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Speaker 2: police commissioner here, He's going to try and fix Victoria.

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Speaker 2: Is that a job or a miracle. Eh, Nick Bryant

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Speaker 2: speaking of Australia is going to be what it's after

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Speaker 2: the news which is next.

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Speaker 1: The Mike host game will be insightful, engaging and vital.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range rover, the law

1238
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Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be a seven past day. Was so much democracy

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Speaker 2: untold the in cannabus this passed week from Romania to

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Speaker 2: Australia to Singapore, Canada and the United Kingdom. We need

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Speaker 2: to tap into some serious brain power and work through

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Speaker 2: what it all might mean. Nick Bryant, these days you

1244
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Speaker 2: will remember resides in Australia, and he resided in Australia

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Speaker 2: at least in part because America wasn't the same place

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Speaker 2: as when it was when he arrived from Britain. Wrote

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Speaker 2: a very good book about it in Peck called When

1248
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Speaker 2: America Stopped Being Great. So let's get into it, Nick

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Speaker 2: brian'speck with us. Mate. How are you, Mike? I'm good?

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Speaker 8: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm extremely well. Did you see elbow coming the way

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Speaker 2: he did on Saturday night?

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Speaker 11: Well, it was certainly a big Trump effete here in Australia,

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Speaker 11: as it was in Canada. I mean, I think he

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Speaker 11: was the real beneficiary of Trump's first one hundred days.

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Speaker 11: I mean, Peter Dutton, the opposition leader, obviously thought he

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Speaker 11: was going to be the beneficiary of what he saw

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Speaker 11: at Trump's inauguration as this global right wood vibe shift.

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Speaker 11: But as the one hundred days went on, it became

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Speaker 11: more apparent that Australia wanted to use its uniquely Australian

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Speaker 11: model of democracy to elect an emphatically Australian prime minister.

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Speaker 11: And I think one way of interpreting the labor Landslide

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Speaker 11: Mike is a rejection of americanization and a collective active australianization.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the key things.

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Speaker 11: And they've really gone for a very authentic Australian, Australian

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Speaker 11: prime minister, very Australian tend to do well, Bob Pork,

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Speaker 11: John Howard, Anthony ALBERESI.

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Speaker 2: Do you see him as more popular than many people

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Speaker 2: saw him prior to the whole Trump thing in the

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Speaker 2: election campaign, because up until that point my reading was

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Speaker 2: Dutton was a contender, may not win, but he was

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Speaker 2: a contender, and people found a lot of things wrong

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Speaker 2: with elbow and what he was doing with Australia.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Anthony Alberzi runs the risk of sort

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Speaker 11: of misinterpreting this result as a kind of massive personal

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Speaker 11: mandate for him and a sign of his popularity. I

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Speaker 11: really think it was a rejection of the other side.

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Speaker 11: I mean, sure Albersi ran a strong campaign, there were

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Speaker 11: none of the errors that there were three years ago.

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Speaker 11: It was an effective message that looked at the future

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Speaker 11: when Peter Dutton was kind of a gaining the past.

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Speaker 11: But I really think the Trump effect was key here

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Speaker 11: because so much of the sort of liberal rhetoric at

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Speaker 11: the beginning of the campaign, which doesn't seem to think

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Speaker 11: would work, came back to haunt them. I mean, not

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Speaker 11: least that comment about working from home for federal employees,

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Speaker 11: which had an echo of what Elon Musk was saying

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Speaker 11: and what Donald Trump was saying. That became as facile

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Speaker 11: as the Liberal Party's nuclear policy. You know, when he

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Speaker 11: went after the Canbury bureaucracy again, there was a kind

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Speaker 11: of echo of what Elon Musk was doing with Doge.

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Speaker 11: And I think this this kind of really hurt Peter Dunnet,

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Speaker 11: and of course he became the sort of perre of

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Speaker 11: of Australian politics, losing his seat, as as the Canadian

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Speaker 11: Conservative Leona did as well.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about Canada is in a Lichton county

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Speaker 2: and so your argument about Australia true, turbocharge it for Canada.

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Speaker 2: But what have they elected? This is a bloke who's

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Speaker 2: never been in politics before. So they elected a guy

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Speaker 2: who Yay, we like him because he does he's going

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Speaker 2: to stand up to Trump. But Kenny, because do we

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Speaker 2: don't know anything about him?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I was really amazed.

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Speaker 11: Has that A Karnee sort of came on and said

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Speaker 11: campaign during this campaign, I mean, he's not the most

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Speaker 11: charismatic a man. I mean he's a very technocratic I

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Speaker 11: mean British people know obviously because he was the Governor

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Speaker 11: of the Bank of England during Brexit and he was

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Speaker 11: a real stabilizing presence. And I think that's one of

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Speaker 11: the key things. And I think that's one of the

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Speaker 11: key things in Australia as well, Mike. I mean, I

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Speaker 11: think that's why there is a linkage between the two,

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Speaker 11: because the most powerful force in politics in twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: four was anti incumbency. One of the major Trump effects

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Speaker 11: is to kind of neutralize that and actually to turn

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Speaker 11: incumbency into an advantage. The idea that a ton of

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Speaker 11: global chaos and market chaos that you back somebody you know. Now,

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Speaker 11: Mark Carney is particularly well placed to kind of benefit

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Speaker 11: from that because he is such a kind of master

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Speaker 11: of the economy. He wasn't only the governor of the

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Speaker 11: Bank of England, he was also the governor of the

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Speaker 11: Bank of Canada, and that helps that financial expertise. And

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Speaker 11: I think Alberanizi, who you thought was going to be

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Speaker 11: a victim of anti incumbency six months ago, has ended

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Speaker 11: up being a beneficiary of incumbency as far.

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Speaker 2: As so to counter your argument though Canada, yes, we

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Speaker 2: get Australia, we get Singapore to a you know, individual story,

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Speaker 2: but the same thing applies. How do you then and

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Speaker 2: Romania you can dismiss because Eastern Europe's a strange block

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Speaker 2: of countries, But how do you explain Farage over the weekend?

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Speaker 11: He's yeah, I think that's really fascinating. You asked me that,

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Speaker 11: and I've got an answer for you. You know, Naja

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Speaker 11: Farrage did lead the Reform Party to storming victories last

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Speaker 11: week in a local action. It ended up gaining control

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Speaker 11: of some local councils. It rents the parliamentary seat from

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Speaker 11: Liverpool from labor on the fringes of Liverpool in Runkel

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Speaker 11: with a massive, a massive seventeen percent sweg. You know,

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Speaker 11: Farage has a charisma that doesn't lacks and an understanding

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Speaker 11: of political showmanship that the Canadian Conservative leader didn't have.

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Speaker 11: But my hunch is that a kind of Australian populist

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Speaker 11: with Arage like skills, or a Canadian populist with Farage

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Speaker 11: like skills, would struggle because the political cultures are very different.

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Speaker 8: In Britain.

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Speaker 2: You have Boris Johnson.

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Speaker 11: You know, the Brits have shown that they're prepared to

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Speaker 11: go for a prime minister who's kind of populist, charismatic, unconventional,

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Speaker 11: somebody with a lot of journalistic entertainment value that I

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Speaker 11: don't think is what Canadians want. That is certainly not

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Speaker 11: what Australians want. I think there's a kind of rejection

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Speaker 11: of a kind of it's just not the Australian way

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Speaker 11: to have that kind of demagogery. It kind of violates

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Speaker 11: the tall poppy syndrome to begin with, and I think

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Speaker 11: something similar probably operates in New Zealand as well.

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Speaker 2: Which brings us the star of the show, mister d Trump.

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Speaker 2: More in a moment with Nick Bryan out of Australia,

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Speaker 2: thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks, All be sixteen past eight. Nick

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Speaker 2: Bryan's back with so NICKA Earlier on this morning, we

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Speaker 2: had the former Prime Minister John Key on the program.

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Speaker 2: He was the one who initiated the terrriff or the

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Speaker 2: deals here for the film industry, got Peter Jackson to

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Speaker 2: make lord of the rings here we cut some you

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Speaker 2: tax and sents, all that sort of stuff. The reason

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Speaker 2: I asked that 'll talk about that is because Trump,

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Speaker 2: of course one hundred percent for movies on that he's right.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, that he wants to rebalance dealings

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Speaker 2: with the world, he's right because countries have taken business

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Speaker 2: away from us, taken business away from America. And yet

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Speaker 2: all of the rest of it, the madness, the nuttiness,

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Speaker 2: how do you explain it.

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Speaker 11: I think it's almost as if he wants had taken

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Speaker 11: America back to the nineteenth century. I mean, it seems

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Speaker 11: that so many things that have kind of guaranteed and

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Speaker 11: made America's pre eminence in the post war world, the

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Speaker 11: international trading system which America created, the international rules based

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Speaker 11: order which America created, the scientific trailblazers at the university,

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Speaker 11: these amazing governmental medical institutions that are packed with the

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Speaker 11: greatest scientists in the world, that sort of underscored its

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Speaker 11: innovative and technical dominance. It's almost like he wants to

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Speaker 11: get rid of all of that and returned to a country.

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Speaker 11: And he said this in his inauguration when he talks

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Speaker 11: about America returning to being expansionist country as it was

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Speaker 11: in the nineteenth century. He missed it at the time

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Speaker 11: because he ended that sentence by saying, We're going to

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Speaker 11: plant the stars and stripes on Mars, and then Elon

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Speaker 11: Musk went bonkers and that was a headline. But it

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Speaker 11: was worth rereading the inaugural address because it shows how

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump Kinner doesn't really want America to be as

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Speaker 11: it was in the twentieth century, which is internationalist and interventionists.

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Speaker 11: He wants it to be like it was in the

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Speaker 11: nineteenth century, the Gilded Age, when there were tariffs, when

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Speaker 11: there was an income tax, when there was a very

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Speaker 11: small government. You didn't have to finance it with income taxes.

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Speaker 11: When America had antagonistic relationships, it didn't have an alliance system,

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Speaker 11: it didn't have this kind of technical dominance at the beginning.

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Speaker 11: That's one way I interpret these first hundred days. And

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Speaker 11: his new hero, his new sort of historical crush, is

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Speaker 11: William McKinley, this guy that was called the Napoleon of tariffs.

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Speaker 11: And you know, he always has loved Andrew Jackson, which

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Speaker 11: again was a nineteenth century president who wrote roughshodo over

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Speaker 11: Congress and who wrote roughshod over the Supreme Court. That's

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Speaker 11: the kind of America that he sees is great, I think,

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Speaker 11: and that's what he's tried to take America back to.

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Speaker 2: But the problem with the statistics, and you saw the

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Speaker 2: GDP the other day, they're going backwards, and they've got midterms,

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Speaker 2: and when that goes wrong for him and he's a

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Speaker 2: lamed up president, at some point that must register that

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Speaker 2: things aren't the way they're supposed to be in his mind.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure. And what we're learning, I don't think

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Speaker 11: the market's a moderating influence on Trump because they go

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Speaker 11: up and down, and indeed a lot of the sort

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Speaker 11: of reverses that we saw on Liberation, then it's aftermath

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Speaker 11: have been recovered by the end of April. But what

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Speaker 11: does affect him, and what is obviously a moderating influence,

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Speaker 11: is the bomb market.

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Speaker 8: You can't mess with the bomb market.

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Speaker 2: And Scott Vessant told.

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Speaker 11: Him this, and sure, you know, he inherited a really

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Speaker 11: strong economy. You know, the Biden economy was coming good

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Speaker 11: and he's turning it to a very bad economy. And

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Speaker 11: that's really interesting, Mike, because I think, you know, some

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Speaker 11: of his supporters will support him up to a point.

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Speaker 11: What will always struck me when I went into the

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Speaker 11: rust belt, I went into the farm belt talk to

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Speaker 11: people who are being hit. Trump supporters who are being

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Speaker 11: hit by the tariffs. They were prepared to support Trump

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Speaker 11: even though it hit their buttom line, because they just

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Speaker 11: wanted somebody to fight for them. It was kind of

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Speaker 11: they were making a cultural choice that was against their

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Speaker 11: kind of economic self interest. But you know, their patience

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Speaker 11: doesn't last forever, and I think that's one of the

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Speaker 11: problems they're facing Trump.

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Speaker 2: In regard to the media, I'm reading this morning out

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Speaker 2: of Australia Guinea. Ryan Hart's blaming, and this goes back

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Speaker 2: to Australia blaming what she calls the lift media and

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Speaker 2: very short. People are very short on understanding. What's your

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Speaker 2: take on how the American medias cover Trump, in whether

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Speaker 2: they've learned anything from Trump?

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Speaker 11: Somebody asked me, Yeah, somebody asked me to book festival

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Speaker 11: Mike where the journalists are afraid? The other day, I

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Speaker 11: don't know any journalists that's afraid. Certainly know my colleagues

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Speaker 11: in the BBC are afraid. Are any of my friends

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Speaker 11: that I knew in places out of the New York Times

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Speaker 11: at the Washington Post. What I do worry about is

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Speaker 11: that the owners of some of these big media organizations

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Speaker 11: are afraid. They're frightened of Trump. They're frightened of what

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Speaker 11: he can do. You know, we saw the chief of

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Speaker 11: sixty minutes resign because he felt that paramount, the owner

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Speaker 11: of sixty minutes and CBS, which is trying to do

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Speaker 11: this big murder at the moment that could be scuffered

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Speaker 11: by Trump, was being interventionists and interfering and that was wrong.

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Speaker 2: And that's what worries me.

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Speaker 11: You know, watching that inauguration, it's great people watching, isn't

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Speaker 11: it but it's always great power watching as well. And

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Speaker 11: to see those kind of heads of the big tech companies,

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Speaker 11: the princes of Silicon Valley, the Jeff bezos Is and

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Speaker 11: the Zuckerbergs given better seats than incoming senior members of

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Speaker 11: the Trump administration, you know, it was deeply worrying. And

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Speaker 11: I think they've made a calculation based on two things.

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Speaker 11: A they worried what the Trump administration could do to them,

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Speaker 11: and B They've looked at the election result, where Trump

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Speaker 11: became the first Republican in twenty years to win the

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Speaker 11: popular vote, and they think, well, he's more representative American

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Speaker 11: than we thought it was, so we better reflect that

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Speaker 11: in our policies. But I wonder now whether you know

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Speaker 11: the tanking of his approval ratings, the instability and the economy.

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Speaker 11: You know, a corporate America that basically capitulated at the

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Speaker 11: start of the Trump administration might start showing a bit

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Speaker 11: more backbone.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to have you on the program, mate,

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up again soon. Appreciate it very much. As

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Speaker 2: read Nick Bryan out of Australia in the early hours

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Speaker 2: four in total, spread across seven to nine paramount and

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: SBS so one channel YouTube twenty six you get all

1505
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: the television networks together as well as Fox Tell, the

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: Walls and stuff fifty four million dollars. Labor Party were

1507
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: big spenders on YouTube. Palmer's trumpet of patriots, which we

1508
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 2: hadn't mentioned yet We probably should didn't do a thing,

1509
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: not a single thing. His party, Clive Palmer twenty four

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01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 2: million dollars in video, spent twenty four million dollars for

1511
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 2: a return of Zip. Labour spent twenty four the Coalition

1512
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: twenty one. The Greens spent four million. As far as

1513
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: the audiences were concerned in Australia for the election night coverage,

1514
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: the ABC one hands down over four million people. That's

1515
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: in total they averaged two point three million, so they've

1516
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: won every one of the last eight elections, so there

1517
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: a go to seven got two point seven eight million,

1518
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: an average of five hundred and eighty thousand. Nine got

1519
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: an average of half a million, and ten who don't

1520
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: really do political news or news of any of they're

1521
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: sort of in trouble, have been for years anywhere, they

1522
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: got an average of ninety seven thousand, and at ninety

1523
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: seven thousand, I wouldn't have been bothered turning the lights

1524
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: on personally. Don't know who they hired and what sort

1525
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: of catering they had, but at ninety seven thousand, don't

1526
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: worry about it. Speaking of elections, as we have been

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01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 2: Rod first chance to catch up with him after the weekends,

1528
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: what they're calling the reform quake. Nigel Farage is there

1529
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: and there in a big way. We'll catch up with

1530
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: Rod after the news, which is next. News talks would be.

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01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: FI news, opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking

1532
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: break best with Bailey's real estate, your local experts across residential, commercial,

1533
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: and rural news talks had been.

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: Job numbers out tomorrow. This is the last of the

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: story in many respects. In other words, broadly speaking, the

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: economies under control. Broadly speaking, interest rates have come down.

1537
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: Inflation's under control. The last measure or metric is jobs

1538
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: and there are some debate as to when that will peak.

1539
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: It would seem to be about now ish, it might

1540
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: not be tomorrow's numbers. Westpac have got it coming out

1541
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: at fire point three. That's the unemployment rate. A and

1542
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: Z have got five point three, ASB have got fire

1543
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: point two. Wage growth is going to be subdued. They

1544
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: think about two and a half percent for the year.

1545
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: So that's about where inflation is. So in other words,

1546
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: you'll be feeling like you're not getting anywhere, which is

1547
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: true because you're not THERB. You have got the number

1548
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: at five point two. The question is not the number

1549
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: five point two five point three. The question is is

1550
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: that as bad as it gets? Once upon a time

1551
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: we were thinking six, then we started thinking fire point five.

1552
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: Now I'm guessing we've about done. So we'll be interested

1553
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: in the commentary and the numbers when they come out tomorrow.

1554
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from nine.

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: International correspondence with NS and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

1556
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business like to the UK.

1557
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: The old mate Roderick, how are you, mam? Good mornings

1558
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: you met I've been very much looking forward to this

1559
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: because all the reading I've done as to what happened

1560
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: last Friday and Saturday time as this might well have

1561
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: permanently changed the landscape. And what Reform did is quite dramatic.

1562
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: Do you see it that way or not?

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01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 17: Yes? I do. There's a lot of people at the

1564
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 17: moment say, oh no, it doesn't amount too much, it

1565
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 17: doesn't amount too much, But I think that's wish for

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 17: thinking from people who don't like Reform. I think these

1567
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 17: were the most remarkable election results I've seen for a

1568
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 17: very long time, talking in terms of decades, and I

1569
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 17: have to fess up that I got it wrong. You know.

1570
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 17: My argument was always a Reform wouldn't be able to

1571
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 17: get past thirty percent in the polls, and that the

1572
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 17: various leftish leanings that they're showing at the moment weren't

1573
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 17: going to be taken seriously by the electorate and so

1574
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 17: they wouldn't break through the red wall. What happened on

1575
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 17: Thursday was as an astonishing trouncing of both major parties

1576
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 17: by Reform, Absolutely astonish it They took. They took the

1577
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 17: county I'm living in now Durham, which has been labor

1578
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 17: for one hundred years. It's never been anything but labor.

1579
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 17: They took that just like that, you know, from nowhere,

1580
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,879
Speaker 17: and they took mayoral ships, they took Lincolnshire County Council,

1581
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 17: and they won the runcorn by election. They had a

1582
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 17: total of six hundred and the tourists lost a total

1583
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 17: of six hundred and ninety odd seats and Reform one

1584
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 17: more than every other party put together. So yeah, it is.

1585
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 17: It is a major major change in British politics. And

1586
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 17: I don't think it's just something you can write off

1587
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 17: as being you know, these are just local elections.

1588
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: Let me just break it down a couple of things. Firstly,

1589
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 2: that by election they won off labor. They didn't win

1590
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: it by they didn't win it buy much and there

1591
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: was a recount. So do they do they put would

1592
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: they feel good about holding it going forward or was

1593
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 2: this just one of the those moments.

1594
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 17: Well they shouldn't hold it. It's been a rock solid

1595
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 17: labor seat for its entire existence. They managed to win

1596
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 17: it by taking the entirety of the Conservative Party vote.

1597
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 17: The Conservatives were left with just over two thousand votes,

1598
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 17: only about eight votes ahead of the Greens. So can

1599
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 17: they hold that. Well, the way things are looking for

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01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 17: the Tories, no one is voting Tory at the moment,

1601
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 17: you know, so they may well hold onto that. And

1602
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 17: just because it was bout six votes, it's still an

1603
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 17: enormous swing, you know, it's a swing of unheard of proportions.

1604
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 17: And it gives them that sixth parliamentary.

1605
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,520
Speaker 2: Seat also, and this is what makes it even more fascinating.

1606
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: Winning seats on councils is one thing, but controlling a

1607
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 2: council is another. So in implementing what they want to

1608
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 2: do in these counties and councils, if it's effective, that then,

1609
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 2: you know, builds their reputation going into a next general election.

1610
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 2: In theory, doesn't.

1611
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 17: It, Well, it does, and the opposition would say it doesn't.

1612
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 17: So no, you're absolutely right. They have no experience of

1613
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 17: running councils. They've never had much success at local council

1614
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 17: level before, and here they are with all these seats,

1615
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 17: more than all the other Cuttage cobblind and some people

1616
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 17: who oppose reform are saying, right, well, now we'll see

1617
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 17: how badly they administer things and their vote will stuff

1618
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 17: to fall. I fear there's a bit of wishful thinking

1619
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 17: in that because I know that all the voters around here,

1620
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 17: and everybody I know in the village I live in

1621
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 17: voted reform. All of them, the whole lot. Were very

1622
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 17: cheered to hear Niger Feraj saying all the people who

1623
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 17: work in diversity, equity and inclusion in county councils which

1624
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 17: we now hold, look for a new job. That went

1625
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 17: down like a bomb. You know, people really liked it.

1626
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: In New Zealand. What makes you different? And this is

1627
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: why this is so interesting Rod. In New Zealand, at

1628
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: local council level we don't have the parties. We occasionally

1629
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: have some centrist party endorsement, but the councilor is not

1630
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: representative of the Tories, of the Lib Dems, of anything else.

1631
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 17: More.

1632
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: Is still different. So does it truly translate? In other words,

1633
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: somebody I read suggested over the weekend put this vote

1634
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: to the general election Farage's Prime minister. Is that possible?

1635
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 17: I think it is. I think now I never did,

1636
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 17: you know, I've never previously thought that. I think now

1637
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 17: it's eminently possible. You know, two or three weeks before

1638
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 17: the local authority elections, we had an opinion poll which

1639
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 17: suggested that if there was an election tomorrow, Ferrats Lot

1640
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 17: Reform would get one hundred and eighty and Labour and

1641
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 17: the Tories would end up with one six' five, each

1642
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 17: Making reform the largest party and therefore tilting towards an

1643
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 17: alliance with The, conservatives and that shocked a lot of.

1644
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 17: People this goes even. Further you, know this gave HIM

1645
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,440
Speaker 17: i think four hundred and forty seven seats In. PARLIAMENT

1646
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 17: i don't think it would translate to. THAT i don't

1647
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 17: think that they have four hundred and forty seven senty

1648
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 17: and ten ps rightly who would get? Them they do have,

1649
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 17: problems you, know fill in these, spaces and, indeed over

1650
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 17: the next few weeks we will be hearing about Various

1651
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 17: reform councilors who've been elected who have previously said we

1652
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 17: should march Into poland or something, similar which the media

1653
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 17: will dig. Out so, YEAH i mean that there are

1654
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 17: problems ahead For, reform but it's still an enormous change

1655
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 17: and at the MOMENT i don't think you can really be.

1656
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 17: Overstated and the carnage for the tourries The tories had

1657
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 17: appalling results wiped, out but it was even worse for.

1658
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 17: Labor it was at least twice as bad as the

1659
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 17: worst possible lestimate the labor insiders had been given to the.

1660
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: Press all, right, mate go well catch Up. Thursday Rod

1661
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: little who is just leave that part of the. World

1662
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: i'm not sure it's, possible but they're looking at. It

1663
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: The Competition Markets, authority which is the a version of

1664
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: the Com Commerce. Commission they're looking at vets and price,

1665
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: capping veterinary sites so, medicines, prescriptions, services. Cremations they looking

1666
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: at whether there's a lack of competition in the marketplace

1667
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: and whether that's led to soaring, prices and even if it,

1668
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 2: has which it may well. DO i don't. Know but

1669
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: can you then go and, say well you can only

1670
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: CHARGE x number of dollars to operate on your dog

1671
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: or your. Cat that seems like a weird, thing so

1672
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye out for. That eight forty Four.

1673
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On iHeartRadio powered

1674
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,160
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1675
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,520
Speaker 2: WHY I Act as they announced a couple of, weekends

1676
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: was it two three weeks? Ago whenever it was that

1677
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: they're going to look for local body candidates and participate

1678
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 2: in the local body. Elections they've obviously seen what's been

1679
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: happening with the. Reform, Mike it doesn't Say, mike Says.

1680
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Hosking hosking Defending. Sanford it's Not. Sandford stanford was a

1681
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 2: bit rich this. Morning of it had been A Labor party,

1682
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: minister it would have been all over it like a.

1683
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: Chief So, no the point, Is i'm not defending. Her

1684
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: no one's questioning the fact that she broke the curbn at.

1685
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: Manual What i'm suggesting is it's not a breathless. Story

1686
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: it's just a. Mistake rookie era is at the end

1687
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: of the. World, No we've got more important things to think.

1688
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: About it's not really the scandal they're so desperately trying

1689
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 2: to make it. Out speaking of, which the money that

1690
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: went to the parties was released. Yesterday they changed the.

1691
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: Rules you may or may not be, aware but any

1692
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: donations more than five thousand dollars that's down for fifteen

1693
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars has to be you, know it can't be anonymous.

1694
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: Anymore the main. Money it's interesting to my eye how

1695
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: little money is raised in this country in terms of political.

1696
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 2: Parties this is all their, donations so a lot of it,

1697
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: comes of course from the tax. Payer and this is

1698
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: why so many every time we have this sort of

1699
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: this random conversation each election campaign as to how we

1700
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: fund these, people how much advertisin we should give. Them

1701
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: why are weirdos like The new Zeal and the Uterro

1702
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: Legalized Cannabis party In Vision New zealand and The Women's Rights?

1703
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Party how come they get government? Money they're not going

1704
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 2: to do, Anything and so you can never really come

1705
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: to a conclusion as to what the best way to

1706
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: fund political parties. Is either the taxpayer funds it or they,

1707
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 2: don't and if they, don't you reliant on the. Privates

1708
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 2: and if you relian it on the, privates of course

1709
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 2: you know who ends up. Winning so top of the

1710
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: pile is The National party at four point eight, million

1711
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 2: which IS i, mean obviously four point eight million is

1712
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: a lot of money for you AND, i but as a,

1713
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: business as the major party in the country drumming up

1714
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 2: all possible, sausages, prizes raffles rich, people they can't even

1715
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: break five million. Dollars The Labor party got one point

1716
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: six one one point six million dollars from all that union,

1717
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 2: affiliation all their Mates greens one point. FIVE i mean

1718
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 2: that says something that The greens can virtually match The Labor.

1719
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: PARTY i would have thought act at one point four

1720
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: Zeal On first got seven hundred and fifty eight, thousand

1721
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 2: and there's a one hundred and nineteen thousand dollars loan in.

1722
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: There merst Oh. SKINS i don't think we want to

1723
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 2: go down the loan, department do? We if you follow

1724
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: that particular, story who owes who the opportunity Is party

1725
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 2: eighty two thousand bucks To Party murray fifty. Three so

1726
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: when you add all of those, up what are you talking?

1727
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: About you're talking five, six, seven eight. Nine you're under

1728
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: a ten million dollars for every single political. Party and

1729
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: if you look at what was say spent In america

1730
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 2: By karmela between nine thirteen and nine fourteen on A,

1731
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: tuesday just on that set for that podcast exactly in the,

1732
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: makeup it would have been about ten times that night

1733
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: away from nine.

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01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: The Make Hosking breakfast With Bailey's Real Estate News.

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01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 10: Talks they'd BES i got.

1736
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: My New netflix bill over the weekend and they up

1737
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: the prices yet, again AND i become increasingly fascinating by

1738
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: the world of media streaming sports rights things like. That

1739
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: Major League soft this is In america have announced this

1740
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: morning that they have done a deal WITH ea as

1741
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: an electronic arts as in the games, people for four

1742
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: regular season matches on their game. Machine so if you're AN,

1743
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: ea you, know sports, player you're going to be able

1744
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: to watch Four Major League soccer games on your gaming.

1745
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: Machine and so this is a. First previously it's been

1746
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: On apple and you have to buy AN msl season,

1747
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: pass which is. Fine so that's just. Streaming But i've

1748
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: Got disney at the, Moment disney is now offering ME.

1749
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: Espn if they're offering ME, espn DO i need to

1750
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: then Have Sky? Sport and DO i now need to

1751
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,839
Speaker 2: buy not only eight hundred streaming, services but a gaming

1752
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 2: machine so THAT i can watch the? Football have you got?

1753
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 2: Smash of course. NOT i didn't even know that was the.

1754
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: Thing that's not even a. Thing that's the. Thing that's

1755
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: What Mike whilst's. Got, yeah that's how it controls the.

1756
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Thing it's just, like not only have you got your,

1757
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: signal but hold, on you need your smask to control your.

1758
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 2: Singers just like someone's dicking with, this a someone's up

1759
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: there and they're robots and they're about to take. Over but,

1760
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: again a gaming console to watch the. Football it's how

1761
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: diluted do you want your? Sport then you can play

1762
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: the football game that, part but how how diluted do

1763
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: you want to make your? Product before everyone, Goes i'm

1764
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: not getting a gaming machine and a streaming, service And

1765
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: i'm not buying the kid the jersey five minutes away

1766
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: from nine.

1767
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 1: Trending, now Will kim as well book in your flu vaccination?

1768
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: Today speaking of, sports snooker eighteen. Twelve in the, End

1769
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: Ja xintong First chinese to ever win. It we're going

1770
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: to end the show with a snooker because the boss

1771
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 2: loves the. Snooker The boss came and, saying thank, god

1772
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 2: we're leading with the. Snooker it's been great to have the. Snooker,

1773
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Jason no one loves loves snooker more than the chase

1774
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 2: for the letters he's, received the letters he's. Received, anyway

1775
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Here's yoo after the win.

1776
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 6: Tonight still a good, prayer still the top.

1777
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Prayer can give me so much.

1778
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 6: Pusher, yeah he's the.

1779
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: Best it's a mutual appreciation society.

1780
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 20: Tonight and since you've had to win nine. Matches you've

1781
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 20: had to win one hundred and eleven. Frames you've been

1782
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 20: playing for twenty nine. Days how tired are?

1783
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 6: You, No i'm not. Tired.

1784
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah how are you going to?

1785
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: Celebrate?

1786
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe you.

1787
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 16: Have have a good drink.

1788
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Tonight williams was very humble and defeat as. Well he's.

1789
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: Wonderful he's one of Those brits that looks older than he.

1790
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 10: Is he's.

1791
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: Fifty he looks on rickon sixty two, Anyway so it's

1792
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: been fantastic for the support for the. Snooker are we

1793
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 2: getting the writings on the? Snooker boss wants to see

1794
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: the writings on the snooker so we can read out

1795
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: the writings on the, snooker so we can. Go he can.

1796
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: Go no watches the snooker told you, Anyway we all

1797
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: got to see. It it's one of sports great. Events

1798
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: there were some real. HIGHLIGHTS a low light Was ronnie

1799
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 2: Oh sullivan sadly but the. Clue there are one hundred

1800
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 2: and eleven. Frames go out, today get yourself a snooker,

1801
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 2: Table go out today and play yourself one hundred and

1802
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: eleven frames and see how you're. Feeling, ah it's all good.

1803
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Times back tomorrow morning on The Mic Hosking breakfast from

1804
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:23,679
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1805
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:43,719
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1806
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