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Speaker 1: It never takes long to find the bank of the

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Speaker 1: tax payer. Don't you reckon the Green Building Council. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to them later. The Green Building Council has lined

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Speaker 1: up the government for lord knows how many millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars so we can auditch our gas heaters, buy heat

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Speaker 1: pumps and save us all one money and two apparently

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Speaker 1: the gas industry are We talked yesterday with businesses who

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Speaker 1: use gas. Some are looking to convert, some want discretionary

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Speaker 1: loans from you know who. Major Gas US has met

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Speaker 1: the Minister last Friday. I assume to state the obvious

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Speaker 1: that we don't have enough gas, so something needs to

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Speaker 1: be done. Just what the something is? No one seems

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Speaker 1: to know give and I've been given no clear answer

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Speaker 1: so far to a fairly simple question I've asked a

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Speaker 1: number of times over the past couple of weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: at the big level, like method X or balance, I

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Speaker 1: don't know there is an answer. I mean you either

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Speaker 1: pay the price or presumably pass it on, or you

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Speaker 1: don't and close down. At the smaller level, does a

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Speaker 1: grower of something need a government loan or a handout?

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Speaker 1: Should a grower not have seen the price of gas

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Speaker 1: and thought to themselves might like to inquire about an

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Speaker 1: alternative you do, I guess, get that interface between business

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Speaker 1: being for personal good versus wider good like jobs and

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Speaker 1: produce for the country, and what role the government might

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Speaker 1: play in that. At a personal level, we use gas

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Speaker 1: at our place price as a joke. We may or

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Speaker 1: may not need to look at something different. But meantime,

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Speaker 1: I am prepared to foot the bill, and I've got

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Speaker 1: no desire to seek help from the government. If the

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Speaker 1: Green Building Council or right and we all switch to

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Speaker 1: electricity as supplied by rain, wouldn't life be great? But

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Speaker 1: we all know it's not that easy. We all know

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Speaker 1: the renewable journey has been and remains a cluster. We

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Speaker 1: all know a variety of circumstances. A coalest to provide

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Speaker 1: the sort of business environment that leads to big bills,

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Speaker 1: big cutbacks, job losses and lack of growth. It's an

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Speaker 1: open question, I guess, as to how much of the

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Speaker 1: lack of gas is about the labor Party and the

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Speaker 1: killing of an industry versus what we already had running

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Speaker 1: out faster than we thought. But is it possible we

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Speaker 1: could just have a mindset change whereby the taxpayer isn't

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Speaker 1: always the first cab off the rank To cover yet

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Speaker 1: more lack of foresight and planning for more from the

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