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Speaker 2: I want's approved because I knew deep done it so

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Speaker 2: that I could be one of the best in the world.

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Speaker 2: And this is to prove for myself that I belong

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Speaker 2: at the top. So let's get it on. Let's bang

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Speaker 2: bang bang.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's about learning how to put yourself in

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Speaker 3: comfortable positions, failing a lot, and ultimately you know you

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Speaker 3: will make it because that resilience that you'll build up

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Speaker 3: will be just invaluable.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 5: It's all over. Henry does the job and New.

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Speaker 1: Zealand win this match convincingly by sixty runs.

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Speaker 5: Spen a polished performance.

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Speaker 6: You're on News Talks B It's time for the Sports

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Speaker 6: Huddled Jim Kay's and Darcy Vudigraver here. Good evening, gentlemen,

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Speaker 6: Good evening.

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Speaker 5: Good to have you guys on mister Kay's. Hello, Hello, Ryan, Hello.

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Speaker 6: Hello Hello. Right, so we've obviously had a fantastic opening

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Speaker 6: weekend for Super Rugby. Jim will start with you, are

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Speaker 6: you expecting the same this weekend?

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Speaker 4: Well, I hope the Blues get up.

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Speaker 2: It's not that fantastic open the weekend rhyme when.

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Speaker 4: The Blues don't win. But yeah, look, it was a

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Speaker 4: fantastic weekend. You're right, they got the drawer right.

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Speaker 2: There were some great derbies first up, and there are

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Speaker 2: some great derbies again tonight Chiefs versus Crusaders, and then.

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Speaker 4: And then obviously you've got the heightened versus the Blues.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, getting the draw right is a big part

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 2: And having typed, I think last week the widest gap

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Speaker 2: in margin was eleven points, so you know that says

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Speaker 2: something about it too. So there's a few things that

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Speaker 2: are working in there and super AGCM to get off

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Speaker 2: to a really exciting start and let's hope it continues.

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Speaker 5: This weekend would have been more exciting if the Blues

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Speaker 5: hadn't decided to stop playing in the second half of

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Speaker 5: that game, though, Jim, that was quite upsetting from a

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Speaker 5: Blues point of view, Like I was there watching it

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Speaker 5: in the so called bomb squad that got let loose

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Speaker 5: and look the chief through Damie McKenzie, they just didn't

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Speaker 5: give any opportunity or option for the Blues. That was

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Speaker 5: quite overpowering, quite overwhelming looking at that. But I think

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Speaker 5: what we like about the next round. You mentioned the

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Speaker 5: Derby's their key to get eyeballs on screens and backsides

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Speaker 5: on seat. That's how you want to start things off.

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Speaker 5: And we look at the two of the unbeaten teams

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Speaker 5: from last weekend, the Crusaders, and I'm sure no one

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Speaker 5: really saw that one coming. Least you died in the

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Speaker 5: wall fan like I am up against the Chiefs and

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Speaker 5: that rivalry that they've got is already rigid, it's already

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Speaker 5: quite intense. But both unbeaten coming together to try and

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Speaker 5: go till on the bounce that's got so much on it.

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Speaker 5: That's a great way to get underway in the weekend.

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Speaker 6: He starts, and yeah, a couple of hours away, Hey,

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Speaker 6: Phil Gifford has done a piece which is I found

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Speaker 6: quite interesting talking about the tactical subs. And I want

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Speaker 6: to know what you think, Jim, because I think if

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Speaker 6: are there eight swaps you can do at the moment

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Speaker 6: he says, this should be none. Is that an extreme

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of with him.

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Speaker 2: I think that what Rugby has missed in the last

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Speaker 2: or since the game, we're professional and the athletic got bigger, stronger,

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Speaker 2: faster is fatigue. So when you don't have fatigue, particularly

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty minutes, you don't have the gaps

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Speaker 2: opening up, the spaces opening up, those sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: So perhaps what Filler's alluding to there is the need

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Speaker 2: fitter athlete and I'm one hundred percent behind them in

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Speaker 2: that regard. If there is a way that you could

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Speaker 2: limit the amount of people that come on to the

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Speaker 2: problem is how do you do that because coaches are

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Speaker 5: It it's limiting, it's not eradicating, because yes, they're fatigue

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Speaker 5: issue was all well and good, and you understand that

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Speaker 5: to able to row take through. I think the trick around

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Speaker 5: this is more like a yes, well, the different parts

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Speaker 5: can turn those over reasonably rapidly. But Jim, it comes

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Speaker 5: to me it becomes more like chess, and the fact

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Speaker 5: that it means it's a group game. We've got to

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Speaker 5: understand when to use them, how to use it, what

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Speaker 5: had more of a coaching year cerebral touch.

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Speaker 4: But if you're a fan, if you're and everything should

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Speaker 4: be decided around the fan. Everything should be fan centric.

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Speaker 4: If you're fan centric.

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Speaker 2: What do you want? You want exciting finishers, You want

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Speaker 2: athletes who have to be superbly fit and have to

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Speaker 2: be able to hang in there till the end. I

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Speaker 2: just think that all sports, and rugby in particular, should

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Speaker 2: put the fan at the center of every decision that

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Speaker 2: they make. And if it's in the fans interest to

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Speaker 5: But fatigue games for reckless, messy football. At the game's

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Speaker 5: a good game.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna go to the break, darcys, We're gonna go

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Speaker 6: to the break. We'll come back in just a second.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of tactical subs.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

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Speaker 6: Jim Kays and Darcy Waldgrave on the Sports Huddle tonight.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back, guys. Joe Parker has just lost his opponent

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Speaker 6: to illness. Now he's got a new one, Darcy. You

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Speaker 6: spoke to him last night, but this was just before

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Speaker 6: it was all announced.

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Speaker 5: It all went down, sounded all pretty good, and then

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Speaker 5: I wake up in the morning and as Pecoli's in

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Speaker 5: there because Dubois pulled a sickie. There's not really any

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Speaker 5: details about what happened. It is more sinister underlying thought

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Speaker 5: to why he pulled a sicki and what's lined up

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Speaker 5: from next. But that's unfounded, so I won't move into that.

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Speaker 5: But a guy Pecoli, who he's coming up against, He's

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Speaker 5: from the Congo's Congolese. He's ranking the top five by

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Speaker 5: most of these divisions. You get that he's a good Friday.

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Speaker 5: He's a big man. But what he is Herne has

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Speaker 5: said he's been in the Congo, he hasn't been doing

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Speaker 5: He's not exactly the fittest guy in the world. Now,

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Speaker 5: Joe's fit and Joe's patient now, so he'll take it

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Speaker 5: a lot longer than I think Martin is comfortable with. Plus,

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Speaker 6: Just flown in from the con literally in the last.

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Speaker 5: Four year, he came for three weeks, right, So there's a.

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Speaker 6: Bit of an advantage there, Jim. Why, presumably he's been

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Speaker 6: paid a great sum of money to be there, Joseph Parker,

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Speaker 6: and this is not a title fight anymore, but presumably

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Speaker 6: that's why you stay in it, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you know there's a whole of things

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Speaker 2: that go that television rights and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: You can't sort of back out of these things easily.

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Speaker 2: And they're found in a plonan and he's going to

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Speaker 2: have to step up and fight the guy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: boxing is shambolic often, isn't.

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Speaker 4: It, And this is just this is just another example

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Speaker 4: of it. But you know, Joe's going to have to

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Speaker 2: And I think the thing for Joseph Parker is, you know,

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Speaker 2: is he putting his reputation at risk here?

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Speaker 4: Like how much of a threat?

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Speaker 2: Because if you get knocked over by a bloke who's

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Speaker 2: who's the last minute ringing?

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Speaker 4: What does that say?

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Speaker 5: He's reading though quite highly in most of these places,

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Speaker 5: so he's ranked yeah, four five.

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Speaker 2: You know, My point is, as you said before, one

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Speaker 2: The other guy's just stepping off the plane. So you

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Speaker 2: do put your reputation at risk. You know, obviously I

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Speaker 2: hope Joseph does well, but it is it is a

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Speaker 6: But is that why it comes down to money? Because

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Speaker 6: someone told me he was being paid ten ten, maybe

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty million dollars? Is that that's for one fight money?

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Speaker 5: Anyway? Look thinking that this way, but you wouldn't be

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Speaker 6: You could punch me as many times as you like.

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Speaker 5: Are do you near going to deal with the Saudi

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Speaker 5: royal family?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: Sure when we know where that is.

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Speaker 4: Listen to us three blokes who would never get in

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Speaker 6: Correct, Hey will Young? Should he get in the ring?

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Speaker 6: Should the black keeps put him in the ring? This

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Speaker 5: Will Young is like Matt Henry. Matt Henry played second

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Speaker 5: he performed admirably, and then when his time came, which

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Speaker 5: He's been there as a reserve guy. He comes into

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Speaker 5: He looks extraordinarily comfortable to the man of born. So

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Speaker 5: he will take that. So it might not be this

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Speaker 5: time around Devin Conway touch and go on the field

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Speaker 5: not looking one hundred percent happy, And as Dylan Cleaver

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Speaker 5: pointed out in his Bounced newsletter, it looked like Will

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Speaker 5: Young was batting on another surface. He looked imperious.

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Speaker 2: Jim, here's a question, Oh, I can't even believe going

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Speaker 2: to say this. When do when do we get to

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Speaker 2: a point where certain Williamson is the name that we're discussing.

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Speaker 2: Not for Test cricket, he would be in written in

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Speaker 2: an ink for any Test cricket eleven. But for the

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Speaker 2: shorter versions of the game, do we go for the

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Speaker 2: people who are more natural, you know, bashes of the

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Speaker 2: ball than This.

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Speaker 5: Was often said about him first up about his serat

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Speaker 5: version game about T twenty one day cricket. I think

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Speaker 5: you look at his record, Jim Kay's go to your

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Speaker 5: room and think about what you just said.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I almost feel like I shot

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Speaker 2: Bambi by saying that.

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Speaker 4: So I do apologize. I do apologize to the nation.

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Speaker 4: But I just wonder, like you know, every every every sport,

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Speaker 2: Has succession and turnover, and even the greats Richie mccaud,

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Speaker 2: Dan Carter, Darryl you know, all sorts of people that

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Speaker 2: had to step aside. When do we get to a

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Speaker 6: Well you've been told, Jim. Hey, thanks guys. I'm just

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Speaker 5: I think you'd get engaged in strolling, and that's what

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Speaker 5: a brave man does. He gets naked and he walks

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Speaker 5: casually across the field, not afraid of anyone or anything.

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Speaker 2: And players should be allowed to tackle them. Players should

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Speaker 2: be allowed to tackle you. You an arena of collision.

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Speaker 2: You should be prepared to get king hit by some

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Speaker 2: of the biggest, strongest people in the country.

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Speaker 6: Actually, that might be the thing that puts them off

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Speaker 6: because you I mean imagine the concussion.

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Speaker 5: Well you mean there's a streak of years ago in

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Speaker 5: a cricket match and he got smacked on the backside

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Speaker 5: with a bat by one of the Australian bats. I

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Speaker 5: think it was Green Chapel. I think it was way

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Speaker 5: back in the day.

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Speaker 2: You waked him on the buttet that Simon's has done it,

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Speaker 2: David gow has done it with a cricket bat.

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Speaker 1: Really, you'll be right.

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Speaker 5: Nuted someone with a bat.

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Speaker 6: Hang on, but maybe that's why you don't get as

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Speaker 6: many streakers at the cricket They just need a hard nup.

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Speaker 4: Begitor Patrick two polo to a tackle. That guy wouldn't

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Speaker 4: come back for seconds?

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Speaker 5: Would you key for what you say about streakers hardening up?

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Speaker 6: Ryan all right, Darcy Jim, thank you. Enjoy the weekend

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Speaker 6: of sport.

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