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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talk said, b if it creaks, leaks,

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Speaker 1: cracks or squeaks, some's the time to get it sort

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Speaker 1: of call oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty The

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Speaker 1: Resident Builder with Peter wolf Camp US Talk saib.

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Speaker 2: People, is that away? Ba going back?

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Speaker 3: Once?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Taken your.

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Speaker 4: Drive?

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Speaker 6: Do you believe?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe? You believe it's true? Nothing the same way,

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Speaker 2: nothing the same.

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Speaker 7: Please well a very good morning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, A slightly different song to mark the passing of

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Speaker 2: the drummer from that particular band, mid Died Oil. Rob

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Speaker 2: Hurst passed away this week, so one of my all

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Speaker 2: time favorite bands. I thought in honor of them, play

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Speaker 2: a little bit of Midnight Oil, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: power and passion, and that's what we should bring to

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Speaker 2: this discussion. It is often about power, who's got it,

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Speaker 2: who you have to talk to in order to get

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Speaker 2: things done, And hopefully we're all passionate about building, because

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Speaker 2: I certainly am welcome along to the show. My name

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Speaker 2: is Pete wolf Camp, the rest and Builder, and this

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Speaker 2: is The Resident Builder. On Sunday, twenty fifth to January,

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Speaker 2: just after six o'clock what's on your mind this morning,

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Speaker 2: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty If you've got a

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Speaker 2: question or a comment, or an inquiry or a dilemma

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Speaker 2: that you'd like to talk about, if it relates to

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Speaker 2: housing in all of the ways that we relate to housing,

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Speaker 2: whether we're an owner, whether we're a renter, whether we're aspirational,

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Speaker 2: whether we've got something that's brand new or something that's

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Speaker 2: a little bit run down and need some work. And

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Speaker 2: to be fair, even if you've got a brand new house,

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Speaker 2: chances are still need some work. So there's always something

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Speaker 2: to do. There's always a question, there's always a question

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Speaker 2: that I've never heard of, and that's what I love

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Speaker 2: about the show. So welcome in on this Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two,

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Speaker 2: or that's z b ZB from your mobile phone. And

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Speaker 2: if you'd like to email me, you're more than welcome

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Speaker 2: to do that. It's Pete atnewstalok ZB dot co dot NZ. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's get amongst it now. I'll put my hand up

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Speaker 2: straight away just in case people are going, did he

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Speaker 2: do his homework?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. And it's not like it blew out the window,

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Speaker 2: the dog ate my homework or anything like that. It's

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Speaker 2: been a week and despite having a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a look around for the answer to the question that

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Speaker 2: I guess was posed to me last week on the show,

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Speaker 2: which was around whether or not there is a home

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Speaker 2: owner exemption for the building of simple standalone dwellings sesds

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Speaker 2: or granny flats, as there is if you wanted to

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Speaker 2: build your own house under the current legislation in terms

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Speaker 2: of restricted building work and the need to contract an LBP,

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Speaker 2: there's an exemption that you can use, which is, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: if I'm a passionate home builder but I don't happen

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Speaker 2: to be an LBP, can I do the work myself? Well,

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Speaker 2: yes you can. It gets noted on the limit, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. So I haven't at the stage been able

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Speaker 2: to find out whether or not that would apply to

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Speaker 2: granny flats, but I will keep looking. I think I

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Speaker 2: had some other homework to do it as well, but

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Speaker 2: that might have gone by the by as well. So

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Speaker 2: we're into it. Good morning, welcome along to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hope that you're well. It's hard to do a show

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Speaker 2: like this and not also acknowledge I guess the weather

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Speaker 2: and then the landslide that claimed to victims as well.

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Speaker 2: And this is that intersection between I guess you know

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Speaker 2: what we talk about on the show and real life,

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Speaker 2: right this is people in their homes that have been

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Speaker 2: of people been impacted by it. If that's been you,

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Speaker 2: and certainly I had had a discussion with some friends.

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Speaker 2: thoughts are with you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: Pete much better intro song for a trade, keep it up,

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Speaker 2: good show from Mike. Thank you Mike, much appreciated radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's get amongst it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is the number, Carol, A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 8: Good mornington. This is quite Kelenny because the power and

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Speaker 8: the passion you have the building I've got for for

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Speaker 8: from their education. I wanted to ask you, please, pretty please,

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Speaker 8: who can tendency tribunal adjudicators go to to get building

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Speaker 8: reports understood? I'll tell you what. I picked a fight

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Speaker 8: with Housing New Zealand. They didn't use builders or plumbing

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Speaker 8: protocol for testing the building.

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Speaker 2: What protocol do you think they should have used?

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Speaker 8: You know, like ab CD levels the same amount of

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Speaker 8: water goes against the building, A war goes along or down,

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Speaker 8: and as goes down to be A and B go

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Speaker 2: Is this in terms of moisture ingress, the potential for leaps?

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Speaker 8: And flat tee wasn't fit for rats to live in.

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Speaker 8: They said that they tested my.

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Speaker 2: Flat, tested for what.

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Speaker 8: Gamp mold and leaks? Yeah, but it was rubbish, No

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Speaker 8: such thing, even when I asked them to.

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Speaker 2: Right, yep, okay.

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Speaker 8: So I'm not happy that they urinated on the judicial

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Speaker 8: system and me because they got paid off with me

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Speaker 8: and put on sixty five percent disabled and they lied

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Speaker 8: to me and witnesses and tribunals and caused me to

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Speaker 8: be more disabled. And when I told them about was

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Speaker 8: that they got shifted me, but they didn't.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're going to have a dispute around

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Speaker 2: and I have you attempted to take housing zealand kind

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Speaker 2: of order to the tenancy tribunal? I okay? And during

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Speaker 2: the tenancy services hearing or tendancy tribunal hearing, you won?

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Speaker 2: And what what what does winning mean?

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Speaker 8: I've got a work order again with done right?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So the work order was issued. Did they complete

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Speaker 8: No? No? What happened is I knew that I'm not

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Speaker 8: a dumb femil and I knew that to fix my flat,

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Speaker 8: that have to fix others.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So if if you know that the work was

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Speaker 8: The whole lot got demolished.

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Speaker 2: The flats got demolished.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I know this sounds like talllet material, but I'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure you can see if the building got demolished,

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Speaker 2: then there's.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because after that they came after my health. And

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Speaker 8: what I'm trying to prevent is then faking a building

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Speaker 8: report to an adjudicator. Again it's going to.

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Speaker 2: But just just so unclear. Does it sound now that

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Speaker 2: you're you're your claim is now not about the building,

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Speaker 2: because the building doesn't exist anymore. It's about the impact

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Speaker 8: No, it's about the narinating on the judicial system.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a figurative term because I presume they didn't

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Speaker 2: actually do that. So no, the claim is now about

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Speaker 8: No, they most lead the judiciary. And I want to

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Speaker 8: know who an addreudicator can present a building report to

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Speaker 11: Not I mean like brands.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, look, if I'm trying to get my

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Speaker 2: might be. But in terms of if you've presented evidence

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Speaker 2: tendency tribunal, right, and you're you're wanting to provide evidence

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Speaker 2: to them, you're going to have to provide counter evidence,

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Speaker 2: surveyor who would undertake a survey. But if the building

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Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore, they've got nothing to survey. You can't

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Speaker 2: retrospectively review a report because you have no way of

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Speaker 12: So I've got a graphic, yeah, but if.

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Speaker 2: The building doesn't exist, I'm not sure that anyone's going

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Speaker 7: Dispute you need.

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Speaker 2: But if you can't argue a future case, if there

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Speaker 2: And I would imagine tendency services aren't going to be

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Speaker 8: Well, I wantators don't get taken an by government department.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's a much bigger and I you know, this

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Speaker 2: but I think in terms of an actual dispute about

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Speaker 2: a building. You've got to have the building there, and

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Speaker 2: then you can have two experts counter each other. And

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Speaker 2: I know a number of building surveys who act as

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Speaker 2: expert experts in giving evidence in trials, and it will

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Speaker 2: often be two building surveys arguing against each other or

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Speaker 2: through the court arguing with each other about the condition

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Speaker 2: and then the judged aside. So if there's going to

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Speaker 2: be another case that you want to take, you would

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Speaker 2: need to provide your own evidence. I think I don't

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Speaker 2: think that the Tendency services would do that on your behalf.

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Speaker 2: In which case, if you want to take this further

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Speaker 2: and you want to provide some evidence that they've not

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Speaker 2: understood it, not listen to what you've initially said, you'd

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Speaker 2: have to find a building survey. You can find building

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Speaker 2: surveys online.

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Speaker 2: Thing that would be the best place to start, and

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Speaker 2: then you know, if you explain it to one of them,

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Speaker 2: maybe someone take the case. But again I'm if I'm

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Speaker 2: really really honest, I'm not sure where this might head. Carol.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your passion for all of this. Take care

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Speaker 2: behind all, yes, all the best to your Carol, You

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Speaker 2: take care your new Stork. Se'd be oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. If you've got a building question

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Speaker 2: or a question about the building legislation and that sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, We're more than happy to chat about that

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Speaker 2: as well. Just for the break this text, and you

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Speaker 2: up to seventy square meter building rules, you still need

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Speaker 2: to pay development levy. The councils will just crank up

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Speaker 2: So there's a few things to consider there. Oh eight

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Speaker 1: From summer backyard job to Big Rennolds. Let's talk it through.

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Speaker 1: Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the resident builder

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Speaker 2: Indeed news talks. There be people for camp with you

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 14: The ceilings, but not in the walls or anything like that, you.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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00:26:25,975 --> 00:26:28,215
Speaker 8: Oh that's lovely, now, but what are they called?

438
00:26:29,615 --> 00:26:30,375
Speaker 11: H NO?

439
00:26:31,015 --> 00:26:33,095
Speaker 2: I understand that HIV. If you look on their website,

440
00:26:33,095 --> 00:26:35,495
Speaker 2: they're doing it, DVSA doing it. There are other really

441
00:26:35,495 --> 00:26:39,135
Speaker 2: good systems. There are some systems you could install yourself.

442
00:26:39,175 --> 00:26:41,455
Speaker 2: If you have a look at the Simics website, there's

443
00:26:41,455 --> 00:26:44,655
Speaker 2: a number of ventilation systems there. You can go to

444
00:26:44,695 --> 00:26:49,935
Speaker 2: people like Zender, you can go to Steeple Altron. It's

445
00:26:49,975 --> 00:26:53,815
Speaker 2: a really interesting space. And finally enough, yesterday I sold

446
00:26:53,815 --> 00:26:55,695
Speaker 2: the couch right and the guy that came to pick

447
00:26:55,695 --> 00:26:57,935
Speaker 2: it up we got talking about buildings and he was

448
00:26:57,935 --> 00:26:59,895
Speaker 2: talking about the fact that he'd just been to a

449
00:26:59,935 --> 00:27:03,135
Speaker 2: renovated building. It was near BnB. They'd stayed there, and

450
00:27:03,175 --> 00:27:05,495
Speaker 2: the building had been built with a view to energy

451
00:27:05,535 --> 00:27:09,775
Speaker 2: efficiency and with high performance, and it had a mechanical

452
00:27:10,095 --> 00:27:13,215
Speaker 2: ventilation system in it, so that when you went to

453
00:27:13,255 --> 00:27:17,455
Speaker 2: the bathroom, instead of having an extractor in the bathroom,

454
00:27:17,575 --> 00:27:20,415
Speaker 2: there was just a button on the wall that ramped

455
00:27:20,495 --> 00:27:24,975
Speaker 2: up the mechanical extraction heat recovery system that was there,

456
00:27:25,455 --> 00:27:29,255
Speaker 2: and that dealt with the condensation. And it's just it's

457
00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:32,375
Speaker 2: like two or three generations on from the early systems

458
00:27:32,575 --> 00:27:36,375
Speaker 2: and they're there. And when I was away overseas recently,

459
00:27:36,975 --> 00:27:38,655
Speaker 2: the house that we were staying in, our friend's house

460
00:27:38,735 --> 00:27:43,055
Speaker 2: had exactly the same system. So, like, what's really exciting

461
00:27:43,055 --> 00:27:45,935
Speaker 2: about this for me and for people involved in sort

462
00:27:45,935 --> 00:27:48,575
Speaker 2: of building and building science, is these systems are now

463
00:27:48,615 --> 00:27:52,415
Speaker 2: becoming more available. They're much more nuanced, they're much more considered,

464
00:27:52,935 --> 00:27:57,895
Speaker 2: they're much more technically involved, but the outcomes are tremendous.

465
00:27:57,895 --> 00:28:01,135
Speaker 2: So if you're going to go down the ventilation route,

466
00:28:01,295 --> 00:28:04,415
Speaker 2: spend a bit of time investigating it, maybe have a

467
00:28:04,455 --> 00:28:08,055
Speaker 2: look at some research and writing that's been done by

468
00:28:08,095 --> 00:28:12,495
Speaker 2: the super Home movement who have just recently shooed a

469
00:28:12,615 --> 00:28:17,215
Speaker 2: document which is like a super home guide for renovation.

470
00:28:17,455 --> 00:28:19,895
Speaker 2: So if you've got an existing house and you want

471
00:28:19,935 --> 00:28:23,855
Speaker 2: to do some alterations to it and improve its energy

472
00:28:23,855 --> 00:28:27,895
Speaker 2: efficiency and its performance, the super Home Movement has now

473
00:28:27,975 --> 00:28:31,255
Speaker 2: released a renovation guide which is probably a really good

474
00:28:31,255 --> 00:28:32,015
Speaker 2: place to start.

475
00:28:33,455 --> 00:28:34,775
Speaker 15: That sounds slous.

476
00:28:34,895 --> 00:28:38,095
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, my pleasure. Thank you all the

477
00:28:38,175 --> 00:28:41,895
Speaker 2: very best, Take care, see you then. And yeah, it

478
00:28:41,895 --> 00:28:44,695
Speaker 2: was a fascinating discussion, to be fair. We had to

479
00:28:44,695 --> 00:28:47,055
Speaker 2: spend a bit of time chatting Steve and myself who

480
00:28:47,095 --> 00:28:50,495
Speaker 2: came to pick up the couch yesterday, because we were

481
00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:52,495
Speaker 2: trying to lift the couch onto the trailer and then

482
00:28:52,495 --> 00:28:54,375
Speaker 2: the rain came down and was like, well, we'll just

483
00:28:54,415 --> 00:28:57,135
Speaker 2: wait for a couple of minutes, it'll blow through and

484
00:28:57,175 --> 00:28:58,775
Speaker 2: then we'll move it. And then we got talking about

485
00:28:58,855 --> 00:29:01,455
Speaker 2: houses and ventilation system and he said, look, I've just

486
00:29:01,455 --> 00:29:03,975
Speaker 2: been down the road. I think it was Matter Matter

487
00:29:04,055 --> 00:29:06,735
Speaker 2: or somewhere around there. Stayed in this house, nice villa,

488
00:29:06,975 --> 00:29:13,575
Speaker 2: massive renovation, really good joinery, air tight, well insulated, and

489
00:29:13,615 --> 00:29:17,215
Speaker 2: it had one of these mechanical ventilation systems in it.

490
00:29:17,335 --> 00:29:22,175
Speaker 2: He said it was amazing. So that's really fascinating and

491
00:29:22,255 --> 00:29:26,415
Speaker 2: actually talking about building science. There's a series of seminars.

492
00:29:26,415 --> 00:29:29,615
Speaker 2: There's a bit of a roadshow coming up in March.

493
00:29:30,095 --> 00:29:33,095
Speaker 2: We'll talk to some people involved in it in February sometime,

494
00:29:33,135 --> 00:29:36,695
Speaker 2: which is not far away obviously on building science. So

495
00:29:36,855 --> 00:29:39,415
Speaker 2: if you want to know more, if you're interested in

496
00:29:39,455 --> 00:29:41,255
Speaker 2: building science and you want to go to a sort

497
00:29:41,295 --> 00:29:45,135
Speaker 2: of one day seminar around some of the updated information

498
00:29:45,175 --> 00:29:47,975
Speaker 2: around building science, listen to a couple of experts. If

499
00:29:47,975 --> 00:29:51,175
Speaker 2: you go to the pro Climber website, so that's pro

500
00:29:52,615 --> 00:29:58,975
Speaker 2: Capital Clima pro Climber, search for them on social media

501
00:29:59,455 --> 00:30:01,575
Speaker 2: and have a look. So that's in I think it's

502
00:30:01,655 --> 00:30:05,535
Speaker 2: christ Church, Wellington and Auckland. There'll be an opportunity to

503
00:30:05,575 --> 00:30:07,255
Speaker 2: go along for a day seminar, but we will get

504
00:30:07,295 --> 00:30:10,095
Speaker 2: a bit more information for that later on. But building sites,

505
00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:13,295
Speaker 2: it's happening. It's real and it is awesome. Oh eight

506
00:30:13,375 --> 00:30:16,815
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Call Pete, good

507
00:30:16,855 --> 00:30:17,495
Speaker 2: morning to you.

508
00:30:18,295 --> 00:30:21,215
Speaker 16: You're going to Pete goodness. Yeah, the good trip.

509
00:30:22,055 --> 00:30:24,335
Speaker 2: We certainly did, thank you very much. But you know

510
00:30:24,335 --> 00:30:25,975
Speaker 2: what it's like with trips. You get back and you

511
00:30:26,055 --> 00:30:29,215
Speaker 2: go what was that all about, you know, like it

512
00:30:29,695 --> 00:30:31,495
Speaker 2: could have been a year ago and it was only

513
00:30:31,855 --> 00:30:33,335
Speaker 2: less than a month ago. So there you go.

514
00:30:34,535 --> 00:30:38,055
Speaker 16: No, that's good. They just regarding those builders report. I'm

515
00:30:38,055 --> 00:30:41,895
Speaker 16: looking at our house now. I've talked about about that

516
00:30:42,055 --> 00:30:45,615
Speaker 16: prolific clanning stuff. So yes, an't it before I buy

517
00:30:45,695 --> 00:30:47,735
Speaker 16: the place? It's going to get a mortgage and stuff

518
00:30:47,815 --> 00:30:50,215
Speaker 16: like that on it. Sure, so what so there's better

519
00:30:50,335 --> 00:30:54,215
Speaker 16: report done on this place by the buyer that was

520
00:30:54,255 --> 00:30:57,455
Speaker 16: going to buy the place, but they decided now to

521
00:30:57,495 --> 00:31:00,455
Speaker 16: pull out of it, so there is a report done

522
00:31:00,455 --> 00:31:03,295
Speaker 16: on that. So I found out by the land agent. Yes,

523
00:31:04,135 --> 00:31:09,935
Speaker 16: that molific planning. They but they are happy with that report.

524
00:31:11,535 --> 00:31:12,695
Speaker 16: Those areas are okay.

525
00:31:12,775 --> 00:31:15,815
Speaker 2: But who said that they were happy with the report?

526
00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:21,175
Speaker 16: Are the land agent did right, But I'm not happy

527
00:31:21,215 --> 00:31:21,895
Speaker 16: with that.

528
00:31:21,615 --> 00:31:23,735
Speaker 2: I was going to say, if I had a little

529
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:26,735
Speaker 2: bit of you know, soundtrack music, what I would have

530
00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:29,935
Speaker 2: is little bells that sound like alarm bells that I

531
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:35,375
Speaker 2: could play in the background. But anyway, actually, just can

532
00:31:35,455 --> 00:31:40,575
Speaker 2: I quickly make a comment on building inspection reports. Most

533
00:31:40,615 --> 00:31:43,255
Speaker 2: of the time when you read them, what stated at

534
00:31:43,255 --> 00:31:47,095
Speaker 2: the bottom is that the building report has been commissioned

535
00:31:47,095 --> 00:31:52,215
Speaker 2: by this person ABC solely for their benefit, and they're

536
00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:56,495
Speaker 2: not typically done in order to be shared. Sometimes they

537
00:31:56,535 --> 00:32:01,735
Speaker 2: are where people will have a condition report done on

538
00:32:01,895 --> 00:32:05,855
Speaker 2: behalf of the vendor, which is then available to any purchases.

539
00:32:07,695 --> 00:32:11,095
Speaker 2: But I think for obvious reasons you should treat those

540
00:32:11,135 --> 00:32:14,495
Speaker 2: with a fair amount of caution. If you're not paying

541
00:32:14,535 --> 00:32:16,975
Speaker 2: for the report, how do you know the person's working

542
00:32:16,975 --> 00:32:17,695
Speaker 2: in your interest?

543
00:32:18,775 --> 00:32:21,655
Speaker 16: You are dead right what I'm thinking, because I said

544
00:32:21,695 --> 00:32:23,975
Speaker 16: to the agent, I said, okay, but you say not

545
00:32:24,015 --> 00:32:26,215
Speaker 16: taking that report for brain of soul because it's you

546
00:32:26,255 --> 00:32:28,975
Speaker 16: will say. They're say, you know right now, well you

547
00:32:29,175 --> 00:32:32,175
Speaker 16: think it's okay, and she's actually a really good agent.

548
00:32:32,255 --> 00:32:36,295
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, I'm not having got real estate agents.

549
00:32:36,335 --> 00:32:38,855
Speaker 2: But this is just general advice.

550
00:32:38,895 --> 00:32:40,975
Speaker 12: I guess. So what are you going to do.

551
00:32:41,175 --> 00:32:43,575
Speaker 2: Now that you've so there's a building report that says

552
00:32:43,615 --> 00:32:48,015
Speaker 2: it's okay, but you've still got questions? Are you going

553
00:32:48,095 --> 00:32:51,175
Speaker 2: to commission someone to do your own building report?

554
00:32:51,775 --> 00:32:51,975
Speaker 3: Well?

555
00:32:51,975 --> 00:32:54,615
Speaker 16: I'm about to do that because basically I just thought,

556
00:32:54,615 --> 00:32:57,295
Speaker 16: well this is stupid. I said now that as I

557
00:32:57,295 --> 00:33:00,615
Speaker 16: said that the owner, now is that the previous buyers

558
00:33:00,655 --> 00:33:02,455
Speaker 16: a side to pull out of it? So I said

559
00:33:02,495 --> 00:33:04,735
Speaker 16: there's a report out there. Now I'm quite willing to

560
00:33:04,735 --> 00:33:07,375
Speaker 16: pay for her. I'm quite willing to pay for half

561
00:33:07,415 --> 00:33:09,935
Speaker 16: of that report. Why should I go and get a rep.

562
00:33:10,735 --> 00:33:16,095
Speaker 16: I can bring up that same company and say I

563
00:33:16,295 --> 00:33:20,135
Speaker 16: wanted to report that's already done on it. And basically

564
00:33:20,135 --> 00:33:24,055
Speaker 16: what the guy said was, well, we can't release that

565
00:33:24,215 --> 00:33:29,575
Speaker 16: report until that buyer has decided not to buy the place.

566
00:33:30,255 --> 00:33:33,535
Speaker 16: Then we will have to ask that buyer will I

567
00:33:33,575 --> 00:33:37,095
Speaker 16: can release that port? If they say, I understand they said,

568
00:33:37,135 --> 00:33:38,455
Speaker 16: they say no, it's the end of it.

569
00:33:38,535 --> 00:33:39,615
Speaker 3: You get your report on.

570
00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:43,255
Speaker 2: Well, that sounds fair and reasonable, doesn't it. I mean,

571
00:33:43,335 --> 00:33:45,575
Speaker 2: in the end, if if you'll buy a b and

572
00:33:45,695 --> 00:33:50,775
Speaker 2: buy Ra commissions a suitably qualified person to understake a

573
00:33:50,855 --> 00:33:55,135
Speaker 2: prepurchase inspection, and they pay for that inspection, that inspection

574
00:33:55,615 --> 00:34:00,055
Speaker 2: report and the knowledge contained in it is the property

575
00:34:00,095 --> 00:34:03,495
Speaker 2: of buyer A. So buy RA decides, for whatever reason,

576
00:34:03,615 --> 00:34:06,215
Speaker 2: I don't want to go ahead with the building. If

577
00:34:06,375 --> 00:34:09,935
Speaker 2: if they agree that what they've paid for can be

578
00:34:10,055 --> 00:34:12,815
Speaker 2: on sold to somebody else, then I guess there's no issue.

579
00:34:12,855 --> 00:34:15,215
Speaker 2: But like you say, if they go, actually no, I

580
00:34:15,295 --> 00:34:18,575
Speaker 2: paid for it, and if you you know, why should

581
00:34:18,575 --> 00:34:20,775
Speaker 2: I give that away? Or why should he only get

582
00:34:20,815 --> 00:34:23,255
Speaker 2: half price. I want part of that or whatever. If

583
00:34:23,335 --> 00:34:25,415
Speaker 2: it's their decision, because they own it, right, they paid

584
00:34:25,415 --> 00:34:25,655
Speaker 2: for it.

585
00:34:26,335 --> 00:34:29,175
Speaker 16: Oh, I definitely agree to that. There's one thing I

586
00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:33,255
Speaker 16: felt a bit funny about it was I said to

587
00:34:33,575 --> 00:34:35,215
Speaker 16: the guy, I got another guy that's going to do

588
00:34:35,295 --> 00:34:37,095
Speaker 16: the reporter. But I was got to do that anyway,

589
00:34:37,095 --> 00:34:40,615
Speaker 16: pretty much. If I ignore that, I'll get another guy.

590
00:34:40,615 --> 00:34:41,975
Speaker 16: I sort of know the guy, and I think he's

591
00:34:41,975 --> 00:34:44,015
Speaker 16: been done it for a long time. I saw, we'll go.

592
00:34:44,215 --> 00:34:44,535
Speaker 6: I have to.

593
00:34:44,575 --> 00:34:46,255
Speaker 16: Anyway because I'm just going to get a mortgage on

594
00:34:46,255 --> 00:34:51,895
Speaker 16: this place. And then I said, to regard that. I said,

595
00:34:52,615 --> 00:34:55,175
Speaker 16: but the guy that's gone thinking about doing the inspection,

596
00:34:56,375 --> 00:35:01,775
Speaker 16: I said that I pay for that report. But he said,

597
00:35:01,855 --> 00:35:05,735
Speaker 16: if we do the report, we have to disclose to

598
00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:09,415
Speaker 16: the agent that there is a fault with that place.

599
00:35:09,535 --> 00:35:12,775
Speaker 16: So well, before we get that agent like call it

600
00:35:13,015 --> 00:35:16,975
Speaker 16: all they see, Well, I have to tell the agent

601
00:35:17,055 --> 00:35:20,375
Speaker 16: there is a problem with this property. Is that right?

602
00:35:19,695 --> 00:35:23,055
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm not going to say that it's

603
00:35:23,135 --> 00:35:26,575
Speaker 2: not right, but I'm to be fair. It's the first

604
00:35:26,615 --> 00:35:31,295
Speaker 2: time that I've ever heard that, and I would be

605
00:35:33,095 --> 00:35:35,295
Speaker 2: I might have to add this to my homework, Liss. So,

606
00:35:35,615 --> 00:35:37,375
Speaker 2: just to be really clear, what you're saying is that,

607
00:35:38,335 --> 00:35:40,775
Speaker 2: let's say I'm doing a building report on your behalf,

608
00:35:41,495 --> 00:35:45,535
Speaker 2: and I go to a house number twenty six B

609
00:35:45,655 --> 00:35:47,415
Speaker 2: Street or whatever it is, and I turn up there

610
00:35:47,415 --> 00:35:49,295
Speaker 2: and I go through it, and I find that there's

611
00:35:49,295 --> 00:35:52,255
Speaker 2: a significant issue with the roof and that it's leaking,

612
00:35:52,695 --> 00:35:55,135
Speaker 2: and so I include that in the report and I

613
00:35:55,215 --> 00:35:58,295
Speaker 2: give that to you. You're saying that I, as the

614
00:35:58,295 --> 00:36:03,335
Speaker 2: building inspector or pre purchase inspector, need to also inform

615
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:06,015
Speaker 2: the real estate agent. I don't believe that that's true.

616
00:36:07,335 --> 00:36:08,335
Speaker 16: No, I don't agree to that.

617
00:36:08,895 --> 00:36:12,255
Speaker 2: The report, it's your information, it's got nothing to do

618
00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:16,695
Speaker 2: with the real estate agent. And in fact, I would

619
00:36:16,735 --> 00:36:19,015
Speaker 2: imagine that most real estate agents don't want to know

620
00:36:19,215 --> 00:36:24,375
Speaker 2: with the greatest of respect, so I think someone's pulling

621
00:36:24,415 --> 00:36:25,015
Speaker 2: your leg there.

622
00:36:26,015 --> 00:36:29,015
Speaker 16: I can use that information as a bargaining tool, of.

623
00:36:28,975 --> 00:36:32,375
Speaker 2: Course, and if you disclose it to the agent, then

624
00:36:32,415 --> 00:36:37,255
Speaker 2: the agent their duty of care, as I understand it,

625
00:36:37,295 --> 00:36:40,335
Speaker 2: is to then disclose that to anyone else. If they

626
00:36:40,455 --> 00:36:42,975
Speaker 2: know something about the property, they have to say it.

627
00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:46,295
Speaker 2: But there's no requirement for someone to tell them something

628
00:36:46,335 --> 00:36:46,815
Speaker 2: that they know.

629
00:36:48,615 --> 00:36:48,735
Speaker 3: No.

630
00:36:48,855 --> 00:36:50,015
Speaker 16: That's that's why the.

631
00:36:51,695 --> 00:36:54,295
Speaker 2: Very interesting, very interesting.

632
00:36:55,055 --> 00:36:55,935
Speaker 7: Hey, keep us up to date.

633
00:36:55,975 --> 00:36:58,535
Speaker 2: You're obviously very keen on this particular house because despite

634
00:36:58,535 --> 00:37:00,135
Speaker 2: the fact that everyone's telling you not to buy it,

635
00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:01,815
Speaker 2: it seems to your intent to buy it, which is

636
00:37:02,175 --> 00:37:04,935
Speaker 2: completely and utterly up to you. Keep us up to

637
00:37:05,015 --> 00:37:05,455
Speaker 2: date on that.

638
00:37:05,535 --> 00:37:06,015
Speaker 7: I'm going to.

639
00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:09,815
Speaker 2: Actually I think I'm catching up with a real surgy

640
00:37:10,055 --> 00:37:14,135
Speaker 2: this week. I want to ask about that. Right, That's

641
00:37:14,175 --> 00:37:16,135
Speaker 2: another piece of homework that I've got to do. I

642
00:37:16,175 --> 00:37:17,775
Speaker 2: need to take a break. Then we'll talk to Brian

643
00:37:17,975 --> 00:37:18,615
Speaker 2: after the break.

644
00:37:19,615 --> 00:37:22,375
Speaker 12: Sawdust, Sunshine and Solid Advice.

645
00:37:22,695 --> 00:37:26,215
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter wolfcab call oh eight hundred

646
00:37:26,215 --> 00:37:27,695
Speaker 1: and eighty eight News Talks.

647
00:37:27,775 --> 00:37:30,655
Speaker 2: That'd be quick text about what we were talking about

648
00:37:31,095 --> 00:37:34,255
Speaker 2: with the disclosure thing, So someone's text through Richard, thank

649
00:37:34,255 --> 00:37:36,855
Speaker 2: you for your text. I believe the caller was referring

650
00:37:36,895 --> 00:37:39,095
Speaker 2: to the Real Estate Act, which is full disclosure. So

651
00:37:39,135 --> 00:37:42,135
Speaker 2: if a punter finds out something, the agent must disclose

652
00:37:42,135 --> 00:37:47,815
Speaker 2: it to all parties. Yes, I agree that's the case.

653
00:37:48,015 --> 00:37:52,575
Speaker 2: So if an agent finds out knows that there is

654
00:37:52,695 --> 00:37:54,815
Speaker 2: let's say, a fault to that building, they have to

655
00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:57,655
Speaker 2: disclose that and I agree with that, and I think

656
00:37:57,655 --> 00:38:00,615
Speaker 2: that's sensible. The issue that was talked about a moment

657
00:38:00,615 --> 00:38:05,135
Speaker 2: ago is that the person undertaking a building inspection independently

658
00:38:05,535 --> 00:38:09,295
Speaker 2: for a patent purchaser felt that they then needed to

659
00:38:09,415 --> 00:38:13,215
Speaker 2: disclose that information to the agent. I don't believe that's true,

660
00:38:13,415 --> 00:38:16,935
Speaker 2: so we'll continue to look at that particular issue, and

661
00:38:16,975 --> 00:38:20,455
Speaker 2: the disclosure one's interesting too. Again, going back a few years,

662
00:38:20,615 --> 00:38:24,095
Speaker 2: I had a very interesting, rather stern discussion with a

663
00:38:24,175 --> 00:38:27,695
Speaker 2: real estate agent who was sharing information that they had

664
00:38:27,775 --> 00:38:31,775
Speaker 2: no evidence for about the condition of a property, which

665
00:38:31,815 --> 00:38:34,855
Speaker 2: I felt was unfair. Anyway, we'll talk about that sometimes. Brian,

666
00:38:34,975 --> 00:38:35,735
Speaker 2: greetings to you.

667
00:38:36,655 --> 00:38:38,055
Speaker 6: Yes, good morning, prete. How are you.

668
00:38:38,935 --> 00:38:41,855
Speaker 2: I'm good now. I'm just aware. I'm trying to get

669
00:38:41,855 --> 00:38:44,535
Speaker 2: better after however, many years of doing the show of

670
00:38:44,535 --> 00:38:47,495
Speaker 2: not crashing into the news, which is about two minutes away.

671
00:38:47,535 --> 00:38:50,335
Speaker 2: So if we end up taking a pause, that's okay

672
00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:50,615
Speaker 2: with you.

673
00:38:51,615 --> 00:38:54,215
Speaker 6: Hopefully this is a quick one, go for it. The

674
00:38:54,295 --> 00:38:58,815
Speaker 6: recent legislative changes allowing the building of a standalone granny

675
00:38:58,815 --> 00:39:04,495
Speaker 6: flatter up to seventy squeers ken under that legislation, can

676
00:39:04,535 --> 00:39:09,135
Speaker 6: you do a seventy square meet extension? No, damn.

677
00:39:11,535 --> 00:39:14,215
Speaker 2: So it's quite clear that the building has to be separate,

678
00:39:15,095 --> 00:39:17,695
Speaker 2: and it should be separate by at least two meters.

679
00:39:18,615 --> 00:39:20,815
Speaker 2: And before you get funky and think right, what I'm

680
00:39:20,815 --> 00:39:24,895
Speaker 2: going to do is do a seventy square meter building

681
00:39:24,975 --> 00:39:26,735
Speaker 2: two meters away, and then I'm going to put a

682
00:39:26,735 --> 00:39:29,135
Speaker 2: little walkway in as soon as you join it in

683
00:39:29,175 --> 00:39:33,015
Speaker 2: any way, that'll be considered an extension. Extensions still require

684
00:39:33,055 --> 00:39:34,815
Speaker 2: a building consent that.

685
00:39:34,895 --> 00:39:36,775
Speaker 6: Could have passed my mind that little terrace.

686
00:39:39,255 --> 00:39:42,815
Speaker 2: Look, and you know that this is exactly what we'll see, right,

687
00:39:42,855 --> 00:39:46,975
Speaker 2: We'll see people building up to seventy square meters adjacent

688
00:39:46,975 --> 00:39:50,415
Speaker 2: to their own buildings. They'll go, they'll get all of

689
00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:53,455
Speaker 2: the permissions, and then once all of the permissions have

690
00:39:53,495 --> 00:39:57,855
Speaker 2: been signed off, someone builds a path, and then the

691
00:39:57,895 --> 00:40:00,175
Speaker 2: path gets a roof on it, and then the roof

692
00:40:00,455 --> 00:40:04,615
Speaker 2: gets some walls and suddenly, magically, my goodness, look at

693
00:40:04,615 --> 00:40:06,895
Speaker 2: this little extension that I've built. But would then be

694
00:40:07,015 --> 00:40:10,375
Speaker 2: non compliant building as well, So it would be unwise

695
00:40:10,415 --> 00:40:11,215
Speaker 2: for people to do that.

696
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Speaker 6: Okay, well, well I appreciate that, appreciate.

697
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Speaker 2: Your We've done well, We've done well, thank you, Brian.

698
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Speaker 2: You take no care all the best your news talks

699
00:40:20,735 --> 00:40:23,095
Speaker 2: there'd be. We're coming up news time top of the

700
00:40:23,135 --> 00:40:25,575
Speaker 2: hour at seven. If you've got a question of a

701
00:40:25,615 --> 00:40:28,775
Speaker 2: building nature, by all means, give us a call a

702
00:40:28,895 --> 00:40:34,135
Speaker 2: couple of quick texts with regard to ventilation. Hey, good

703
00:40:34,175 --> 00:40:36,615
Speaker 2: only for having a plug Brian from Balanced there in

704
00:40:36,695 --> 00:40:40,535
Speaker 2: christ Church Morning guys. One ventilation system you could be

705
00:40:40,575 --> 00:40:43,775
Speaker 2: looking at is like the midst of Bishi Electric Losne.

706
00:40:43,815 --> 00:40:46,775
Speaker 2: I've heard of those. Actually, it's a balanced pressure system

707
00:40:46,855 --> 00:40:49,775
Speaker 2: draws fresher in, removes the stale air, but also draws

708
00:40:49,895 --> 00:40:52,935
Speaker 2: energy from that through a heat exchange or I presume

709
00:40:53,015 --> 00:40:56,375
Speaker 2: these systems you can also incorporate in your wet areas.

710
00:40:56,775 --> 00:41:00,575
Speaker 2: I think we're going to get Storm, our ventilation expert,

711
00:41:00,655 --> 00:41:02,135
Speaker 2: back on the show in the next couple of weeks

712
00:41:02,135 --> 00:41:05,495
Speaker 2: to talk about negative pressure, balance pressure, and positive pressure

713
00:41:05,735 --> 00:41:08,535
Speaker 2: ventilation systems. There's a lot to learn in that space.

714
00:41:08,775 --> 00:41:10,815
Speaker 2: Back after the new Sport and weather top of.

715
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Speaker 17: The AA.

716
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Speaker 1: Sorting those summerfixes before the barbecue crowd arrives, the Resident

717
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Speaker 1: Builder with Peter Wolfcab Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty

718
00:41:23,575 --> 00:41:25,815
Speaker 1: News talks that be a lot.

719
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome back to the show by the way,

720
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Speaker 2: Pete wolf Camp's my name, and you can call eight

721
00:41:30,775 --> 00:41:36,055
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. Finding this discussion personally quite fascinating.

722
00:41:36,095 --> 00:41:37,255
Speaker 18: So the.

723
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Speaker 2: Part of today's discussion has been around a comment made

724
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Speaker 2: by Pete who was talking about having had a building

725
00:41:45,975 --> 00:41:50,255
Speaker 2: report or knowing that there was a building report commissioned

726
00:41:50,295 --> 00:41:54,015
Speaker 2: on a property that he was interested in, but he

727
00:41:54,055 --> 00:41:57,455
Speaker 2: didn't commission the building report. A previous purchase or previous

728
00:41:57,615 --> 00:42:00,855
Speaker 2: interested party did, and then it was a discussion around

729
00:42:00,855 --> 00:42:03,455
Speaker 2: whether or not he could take that report, or whether

730
00:42:03,495 --> 00:42:05,015
Speaker 2: it could be he could pay for it, and the

731
00:42:05,055 --> 00:42:07,215
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. And then there was a comment

732
00:42:07,255 --> 00:42:11,295
Speaker 2: that he made which was about a person doing pre

733
00:42:11,335 --> 00:42:15,175
Speaker 2: purchase inspections who believed that they then had to share

734
00:42:15,695 --> 00:42:20,175
Speaker 2: the results of that pre purchase inspection with the agent

735
00:42:20,255 --> 00:42:24,335
Speaker 2: who was listening the property. I don't believe that that's true.

736
00:42:24,535 --> 00:42:27,015
Speaker 2: So a couple of texts have come through, and I'll

737
00:42:27,055 --> 00:42:29,175
Speaker 2: just read them out and you can decide for yourself,

738
00:42:29,775 --> 00:42:32,855
Speaker 2: I would say, says this Texter. I would say, building

739
00:42:32,895 --> 00:42:36,055
Speaker 2: report results would have to be disclosed only if there

740
00:42:36,135 --> 00:42:38,855
Speaker 2: was a contract, and if it was a clause, then

741
00:42:39,015 --> 00:42:42,215
Speaker 2: selling people have the option to remedy the issue if

742
00:42:42,255 --> 00:42:45,015
Speaker 2: there was one, no contract, I don't think the sellers

743
00:42:45,015 --> 00:42:47,055
Speaker 2: have a right to know the outcome of the report.

744
00:42:48,295 --> 00:42:51,055
Speaker 2: I would agree as well. If a report is done

745
00:42:51,375 --> 00:42:56,695
Speaker 2: prior to a contract being signed, then no, I can't

746
00:42:56,735 --> 00:42:59,815
Speaker 2: see why you would share that report with the seller

747
00:43:00,295 --> 00:43:03,375
Speaker 2: unless it was part of negotiation. But then that's the

748
00:43:03,415 --> 00:43:07,735
Speaker 2: person who paid for the report, the prospective per sharing

749
00:43:07,855 --> 00:43:11,175
Speaker 2: that because they own it right, they paid for the report,

750
00:43:11,615 --> 00:43:15,935
Speaker 2: but it's not a third party, So that's part of that. Pete.

751
00:43:16,255 --> 00:43:19,055
Speaker 2: You need to disclose the report if you're using the

752
00:43:19,095 --> 00:43:21,335
Speaker 2: issue to cancel a contract, and you would need to

753
00:43:21,375 --> 00:43:24,735
Speaker 2: disclose the issue if you're using it as a bargaining call,

754
00:43:24,855 --> 00:43:26,855
Speaker 2: as you say the court, as you say the caller

755
00:43:26,935 --> 00:43:31,175
Speaker 2: wanted to Yes, But that would only be true if

756
00:43:31,255 --> 00:43:35,455
Speaker 2: you paid for the report. Again, the question that I had,

757
00:43:35,535 --> 00:43:38,535
Speaker 2: or the question that was raised, was a pre purchase

758
00:43:38,615 --> 00:43:42,735
Speaker 2: inspector feeling or being told that they had to share

759
00:43:43,135 --> 00:43:46,495
Speaker 2: the report with the listing agent. Again, no one's addressed

760
00:43:46,495 --> 00:43:49,175
Speaker 2: that issue. These things are true, but they're not necessarily

761
00:43:49,215 --> 00:43:52,415
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. Pete, real estate agent here, lovely

762
00:43:52,455 --> 00:43:54,695
Speaker 2: to talk to you, Andy, Not one hundred percent true

763
00:43:54,695 --> 00:43:57,295
Speaker 2: read the disclosure. For example, if there was a previous

764
00:43:57,455 --> 00:44:01,535
Speaker 2: meth contamination that now being cleaned, a previous shower that

765
00:44:01,575 --> 00:44:04,695
Speaker 2: had been repaired. I work on the basis of what

766
00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:07,455
Speaker 2: I want to know if I was buying the yes.

767
00:44:07,495 --> 00:44:10,015
Speaker 2: But that's only if you know about these things. You

768
00:44:10,015 --> 00:44:12,935
Speaker 2: don't have a right to demand to know these things.

769
00:44:13,015 --> 00:44:15,335
Speaker 2: I think Andy, with the greatest respect, anyway, this is

770
00:44:15,735 --> 00:44:20,535
Speaker 2: fascinating stuff radio or I think so anyway, we might

771
00:44:20,535 --> 00:44:22,855
Speaker 2: talk a bit more about bonds later on as well.

772
00:44:23,175 --> 00:44:26,495
Speaker 2: Right coming up to ten minutes after seven, Remember for

773
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Speaker 2: red client pass, he's on the road. Actually he's up north,

774
00:44:29,175 --> 00:44:31,655
Speaker 2: so he'd be dialing in at around eight thirty this morning.

775
00:44:32,415 --> 00:44:35,455
Speaker 2: Right through this morning, we are going to be talking

776
00:44:35,495 --> 00:44:39,735
Speaker 2: all things building construction of Very good morning to you, Sean, Sean,

777
00:44:39,775 --> 00:44:40,455
Speaker 2: greetings to you.

778
00:44:41,255 --> 00:44:44,655
Speaker 17: Hi here you're goingday good, thank you. I'm just wondering.

779
00:44:45,415 --> 00:44:49,175
Speaker 17: I just heard you're talking about the OSHIV things before,

780
00:44:49,295 --> 00:44:51,735
Speaker 17: and yep, I don't know what, yeah, what are you're

781
00:44:51,735 --> 00:44:54,895
Speaker 17: heading on at the moment. But I've got to start

782
00:44:54,935 --> 00:44:56,815
Speaker 17: something off that I didn't really want to start off

783
00:44:56,855 --> 00:45:00,135
Speaker 17: because I went through a roof replacement, which she sort

784
00:45:00,135 --> 00:45:02,775
Speaker 17: of stared us in the right direction for a few

785
00:45:02,855 --> 00:45:06,895
Speaker 17: years back, oh thank you. And I hadn't that we

786
00:45:07,015 --> 00:45:08,815
Speaker 17: had so many leaks and I've been going up there

787
00:45:08,815 --> 00:45:10,335
Speaker 17: all the time, and I didn't really want to go

788
00:45:10,375 --> 00:45:11,735
Speaker 17: back up there. So I hadn't been up there for

789
00:45:11,775 --> 00:45:14,175
Speaker 17: a while. And when I say wow, I mean a few.

790
00:45:14,015 --> 00:45:17,895
Speaker 2: Years somewhere that typically hang out, is it?

791
00:45:18,775 --> 00:45:22,415
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, And I sort of went up there about yes,

792
00:45:22,855 --> 00:45:25,895
Speaker 17: well over the winter time anyway, and climb right into

793
00:45:25,935 --> 00:45:30,295
Speaker 17: the back of the roof and I attic, sorry, I'll

794
00:45:30,295 --> 00:45:34,255
Speaker 17: lose my way here, and found that there was an

795
00:45:34,295 --> 00:45:36,815
Speaker 17: area that had sort of like it was sort of

796
00:45:36,855 --> 00:45:39,735
Speaker 17: quite damp up there. And then I, after going through

797
00:45:39,775 --> 00:45:43,575
Speaker 17: it all, I sort of noticed that, yes, I'm not

798
00:45:43,655 --> 00:45:45,255
Speaker 17: try I don't want to try to get technical, but

799
00:45:45,335 --> 00:45:47,015
Speaker 17: because I've sort of wound myself and I'm not with it,

800
00:45:47,055 --> 00:45:48,415
Speaker 17: and like I said, I really didn't want to start

801
00:45:48,415 --> 00:45:49,895
Speaker 17: this all off again. But you can't sort of leave

802
00:45:49,935 --> 00:45:55,495
Speaker 17: them once you find something again. And I noticed that

803
00:45:55,535 --> 00:45:57,215
Speaker 17: a lot of the area was it wasn't just one

804
00:45:57,255 --> 00:45:59,375
Speaker 17: sort of particular area. It was sort of damp on

805
00:45:59,415 --> 00:46:02,175
Speaker 17: top of the pearlins, you know, yes, just the top

806
00:46:02,215 --> 00:46:04,175
Speaker 17: of the very top edge of the pearlins seemed to

807
00:46:04,175 --> 00:46:05,775
Speaker 17: be like a damp, wet spot.

808
00:46:06,015 --> 00:46:06,215
Speaker 7: Yep.

809
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Speaker 17: Now, when the roof was replaced, because it's not trying

810
00:46:09,775 --> 00:46:13,015
Speaker 17: to be smarter or anything, is it a skillion roof.

811
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Speaker 17: It's a flat roof, but it's like on an angle

812
00:46:14,975 --> 00:46:18,335
Speaker 17: at about ten degrees. Is that what you call skillion.

813
00:46:18,735 --> 00:46:23,655
Speaker 2: No, skillion typically is where the roof is basically rafters

814
00:46:23,695 --> 00:46:26,695
Speaker 2: and the ceiling follows the pitch of the rafter. So

815
00:46:26,735 --> 00:46:28,575
Speaker 2: if you can climb in there, it won't be a

816
00:46:28,575 --> 00:46:31,335
Speaker 2: skillion roof unless you're very very thin.

817
00:46:32,015 --> 00:46:33,415
Speaker 17: I noticed that the other day, so I thought, well,

818
00:46:33,415 --> 00:46:35,775
Speaker 17: that's where I've got that wrong. Yeah, he's got an

819
00:46:35,815 --> 00:46:38,135
Speaker 17: etick in it, but it's fire.

820
00:46:37,975 --> 00:46:41,695
Speaker 2: So it's a standard sort of trust roof of some description.

821
00:46:41,815 --> 00:46:43,655
Speaker 2: So there's a void there that you can get into.

822
00:46:43,815 --> 00:46:45,655
Speaker 17: Yeah, you can get into it, but it's flat on

823
00:46:45,695 --> 00:46:48,455
Speaker 17: an angle and it drops down to nothing at the

824
00:46:48,495 --> 00:46:51,695
Speaker 17: western edge of it. Anyway, when they replace the roof,

825
00:46:51,695 --> 00:46:54,335
Speaker 17: they wouldn't put corrugated because it was slightly under ten degrees,

826
00:46:54,375 --> 00:46:56,495
Speaker 17: so they put that trim rob which I'll notice just

827
00:46:56,535 --> 00:46:58,695
Speaker 17: about else of their building now has got that is

828
00:46:58,815 --> 00:47:00,415
Speaker 17: what they call trim rib and it's got the big

829
00:47:00,455 --> 00:47:01,335
Speaker 17: flat tray section.

830
00:47:01,535 --> 00:47:02,815
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a standing scene.

831
00:47:02,895 --> 00:47:06,015
Speaker 17: Yep, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I sort of thought

832
00:47:06,015 --> 00:47:08,015
Speaker 17: about wonder had something to do with that as well.

833
00:47:08,055 --> 00:47:10,775
Speaker 17: But also we used to have the old man built

834
00:47:10,775 --> 00:47:12,935
Speaker 17: a house, and we used to have that you're talking

835
00:47:12,975 --> 00:47:15,575
Speaker 17: about it. A while back. I heard the double sided

836
00:47:15,575 --> 00:47:18,295
Speaker 17: silver with a bitumen in the middle of it, bullet

837
00:47:18,575 --> 00:47:20,735
Speaker 17: bulletproof stuff which is on the sides of the house.

838
00:47:21,735 --> 00:47:23,615
Speaker 17: And they wouldn't leave that on because I asked them,

839
00:47:23,735 --> 00:47:25,135
Speaker 17: you know, can you leave that on? They says, now,

840
00:47:25,135 --> 00:47:26,735
Speaker 17: we've got to tear that off and replace it with

841
00:47:26,775 --> 00:47:30,815
Speaker 17: this real widow stuff. Oh, here we go. So I

842
00:47:30,855 --> 00:47:33,015
Speaker 17: got the I got the best of the best, which

843
00:47:33,095 --> 00:47:38,215
Speaker 17: was a fire retardant, which is a cover text thermocraft,

844
00:47:39,135 --> 00:47:43,535
Speaker 17: the white paper, which is sort of synthetic stuff or something.

845
00:47:44,655 --> 00:47:47,535
Speaker 17: But I got the best of the one, which is

846
00:47:47,575 --> 00:47:50,455
Speaker 17: the four oh seven. Now that seems that I wrung

847
00:47:50,495 --> 00:47:52,535
Speaker 17: them up, and they seem to say, I've got some

848
00:47:52,615 --> 00:47:55,335
Speaker 17: sort of system where the moisture will go through it

849
00:47:55,455 --> 00:47:58,775
Speaker 17: or other way. There's different topic where it doesn't let

850
00:47:58,815 --> 00:48:03,095
Speaker 17: moisture in or moisture through it. So I find that

851
00:48:03,095 --> 00:48:06,095
Speaker 17: that's damp underneath it, and it's like getting through that.

852
00:48:06,135 --> 00:48:08,975
Speaker 17: There wasn't any dampness with the corrugated and the old

853
00:48:09,175 --> 00:48:16,175
Speaker 17: double sided bulletproof silver paper, you know. And I also

854
00:48:16,255 --> 00:48:19,975
Speaker 17: did a temperature check a couple of weeks ago with

855
00:48:20,015 --> 00:48:21,775
Speaker 17: a thermometer because I put my head up in there.

856
00:48:22,575 --> 00:48:24,575
Speaker 17: This is cold up in the attic, and I put

857
00:48:24,575 --> 00:48:26,375
Speaker 17: a thermometer up in the attic, and it was about

858
00:48:26,415 --> 00:48:29,375
Speaker 17: sixteen degrees in the attic where it was about twenty

859
00:48:29,375 --> 00:48:31,655
Speaker 17: one degrees in the morning as the sun was coming

860
00:48:31,695 --> 00:48:34,375
Speaker 17: up in the lounge, and about twenty four outside, you know,

861
00:48:35,415 --> 00:48:37,495
Speaker 17: So there was quite a bit of temperature difference. But

862
00:48:37,535 --> 00:48:39,935
Speaker 17: it was dry up in there, because in the summertime

863
00:48:39,935 --> 00:48:43,135
Speaker 17: it still seems to be dry. I'm the question I

864
00:48:43,135 --> 00:48:46,615
Speaker 17: wanted to ask you is who are the people that

865
00:48:46,655 --> 00:48:48,855
Speaker 17: you should go to about an issue like that, because

866
00:48:49,535 --> 00:48:51,535
Speaker 17: sort of roofers were saying, well, we'll climb around the

867
00:48:51,535 --> 00:48:53,175
Speaker 17: outside of the roof and have a look at the roof,

868
00:48:53,735 --> 00:48:55,535
Speaker 17: and the outside of the roof is brand new because

869
00:48:56,255 --> 00:49:01,375
Speaker 17: yet clean and all that, and an HIV person will

870
00:49:01,375 --> 00:49:04,135
Speaker 17: just sell you an HIV And it's never had any

871
00:49:04,215 --> 00:49:06,855
Speaker 17: denting in the ceiling in fifty years for the rurogated,

872
00:49:07,375 --> 00:49:10,495
Speaker 17: and I wonder because the corrugated had more little ear

873
00:49:10,615 --> 00:49:12,935
Speaker 17: gaps through it and these big flat tray sections, and

874
00:49:12,975 --> 00:49:17,775
Speaker 17: it's getting this moisture building on this supposedly whizo paper

875
00:49:17,775 --> 00:49:20,295
Speaker 17: that's nodding and doing as good as silver paper, you know.

876
00:49:21,295 --> 00:49:23,575
Speaker 2: I mean the paper that you know that you're referred

877
00:49:23,615 --> 00:49:27,295
Speaker 2: to is really good. There's a couple of things about it.

878
00:49:27,375 --> 00:49:30,055
Speaker 2: So and you know when you said, you know, we

879
00:49:30,055 --> 00:49:32,815
Speaker 2: shouldn't get too technical, the fact is we should get technical, right,

880
00:49:32,855 --> 00:49:35,695
Speaker 2: because that's where this is where the science kicks in, right,

881
00:49:36,135 --> 00:49:39,415
Speaker 2: in terms of vapor diffusion, in terms of ventilation, in

882
00:49:39,535 --> 00:49:44,655
Speaker 2: terms of due point, in terms of how that atmosphere works, right,

883
00:49:44,695 --> 00:49:47,055
Speaker 2: And it's a combination of a whole lot of factors.

884
00:49:47,095 --> 00:49:53,135
Speaker 2: So there's warmth outside, warmth inside, ventilation, moisture, moisture diffusion,

885
00:49:53,615 --> 00:49:56,175
Speaker 2: and all of those sorts of things. So there's a

886
00:49:56,215 --> 00:49:59,895
Speaker 2: possibility that there's you know, three or four things all

887
00:49:59,895 --> 00:50:02,015
Speaker 2: happening all at once in that roots space, and they're

888
00:50:02,015 --> 00:50:05,295
Speaker 2: all combining, and how they combined produces an outcome, and

889
00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:09,295
Speaker 2: if that outcome is moisture on the perlins, then there's

890
00:50:09,335 --> 00:50:14,495
Speaker 2: an issue there, right. So look Hopefully what they've done

891
00:50:14,535 --> 00:50:17,695
Speaker 2: is put the building, the roofing underlay on the right

892
00:50:17,735 --> 00:50:25,295
Speaker 2: way up right, because it's direction. Yeah, okay, So in

893
00:50:25,415 --> 00:50:27,615
Speaker 2: terms of understanding where where you might want to go,

894
00:50:27,695 --> 00:50:30,575
Speaker 2: what you would be looking for is someone who's interested

895
00:50:30,575 --> 00:50:31,455
Speaker 2: in building science.

896
00:50:31,895 --> 00:50:32,135
Speaker 7: Right.

897
00:50:33,175 --> 00:50:35,855
Speaker 2: So that may not be with the greatest respect to

898
00:50:35,855 --> 00:50:39,095
Speaker 2: people that do house inspections. Are a person doing house inspections,

899
00:50:39,095 --> 00:50:42,135
Speaker 2: but it might be or it might be someone who's

900
00:50:42,175 --> 00:50:46,695
Speaker 2: a consultant around like energy modeling, or someone involved in

901
00:50:46,695 --> 00:50:50,295
Speaker 2: building science. Some building surveyors are heavily involved in that space,

902
00:50:50,415 --> 00:50:54,815
Speaker 2: others not so much, again with respect, but and it

903
00:50:54,855 --> 00:50:58,695
Speaker 2: would be sort of understanding the dynamics, right. It could

904
00:50:58,735 --> 00:51:01,455
Speaker 2: be as simple as maybe there is still a leak, right,

905
00:51:01,535 --> 00:51:06,055
Speaker 2: even new roofs might leak, or there's an issue with

906
00:51:06,455 --> 00:51:09,815
Speaker 2: ventilation in that space. So in many cases now we

907
00:51:09,855 --> 00:51:12,775
Speaker 2: would do a flat roof or a reasonably low pitch

908
00:51:12,815 --> 00:51:16,575
Speaker 2: roof like that, with a ventilated cavity batton on top

909
00:51:16,615 --> 00:51:19,655
Speaker 2: of the perlin to allow for airflow. So you might

910
00:51:19,695 --> 00:51:24,055
Speaker 2: have the rafters you're roofing underlay, then a ventilated cavity batten,

911
00:51:24,175 --> 00:51:27,415
Speaker 2: and then you're roofing on top of there. Which allows

912
00:51:27,455 --> 00:51:32,295
Speaker 2: for airflow, which allows for drying and also creates a

913
00:51:32,295 --> 00:51:35,695
Speaker 2: different environment in that space. So any condensation that's created

914
00:51:35,735 --> 00:51:38,335
Speaker 2: on the underside of iron, which will happen, hits the

915
00:51:38,415 --> 00:51:43,255
Speaker 2: roofing underlay and drains out, whereas in your case, you know,

916
00:51:43,375 --> 00:51:47,055
Speaker 2: maybe it's saturating the roofing UNDERLA shouldn't theoretically, but it

917
00:51:47,135 --> 00:51:49,775
Speaker 2: might be, and that's what you're seeing on the Perlin.

918
00:51:49,895 --> 00:51:52,975
Speaker 2: So I think if you're looking around in your area,

919
00:51:53,175 --> 00:51:57,935
Speaker 2: you'd be looking for someone who's involved, you know, super

920
00:51:57,935 --> 00:52:00,535
Speaker 2: home movement or building science.

921
00:52:02,295 --> 00:52:06,095
Speaker 17: No, sorry that what they call it EECA or something.

922
00:52:06,975 --> 00:52:08,975
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean ECA will have some really good information

923
00:52:09,015 --> 00:52:11,135
Speaker 2: on the website. But remember they're a government body that's

924
00:52:11,175 --> 00:52:16,095
Speaker 2: looking to increase energy efficiency and promote information about it,

925
00:52:16,135 --> 00:52:18,015
Speaker 2: and they do a fantastic job. But I'm not sure

926
00:52:18,015 --> 00:52:20,535
Speaker 2: that they've got I know some of their scientists and

927
00:52:20,815 --> 00:52:23,015
Speaker 2: they'd be amazing to have around in the same way

928
00:52:23,015 --> 00:52:26,455
Speaker 2: that I've met, you know, scientists and researchers working at brands,

929
00:52:26,455 --> 00:52:28,575
Speaker 2: and it would be wonderful if they did house visits.

930
00:52:28,575 --> 00:52:31,335
Speaker 2: But I can ask for us next time I see that.

931
00:52:31,415 --> 00:52:32,015
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

932
00:52:32,655 --> 00:52:34,095
Speaker 17: Yeah, I wasn't trying to be smart, but I just

933
00:52:34,095 --> 00:52:37,495
Speaker 17: think it more ties me and I'm not than yeah,

934
00:52:37,855 --> 00:52:39,895
Speaker 17: and then I lose my way with it, you know.

935
00:52:39,975 --> 00:52:42,095
Speaker 17: And like I say, you get people with these products

936
00:52:42,135 --> 00:52:43,815
Speaker 17: of HIV and thing. They just want to sell the

937
00:52:43,855 --> 00:52:45,055
Speaker 17: product and stick it in the ceiling.

938
00:52:45,055 --> 00:52:47,255
Speaker 2: And I've read and that's okay, and that's their job.

939
00:52:47,375 --> 00:52:47,455
Speaker 3: Right.

940
00:52:48,175 --> 00:52:50,215
Speaker 17: Sometimes you put vince in your attic and it can

941
00:52:50,255 --> 00:52:51,135
Speaker 17: make it even worse.

942
00:52:51,455 --> 00:52:53,095
Speaker 2: What I would suggest if you leave your.

943
00:52:53,095 --> 00:52:55,055
Speaker 17: Towel hanging outside overnight and you wake up in the

944
00:52:55,095 --> 00:52:57,655
Speaker 17: morning when they're all damp, you know, and I think, christ,

945
00:52:57,695 --> 00:52:59,495
Speaker 17: I don't want to put vins up there, which haven't

946
00:52:59,535 --> 00:53:02,415
Speaker 17: been for fifty years, and find that it's even more

947
00:53:02,455 --> 00:53:03,215
Speaker 17: moisture up.

948
00:53:03,095 --> 00:53:03,535
Speaker 10: There, you know.

949
00:53:03,695 --> 00:53:06,175
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, you know. And again this is this is

950
00:53:06,455 --> 00:53:09,015
Speaker 2: really exciting space, or I find it exciting in terms of,

951
00:53:09,335 --> 00:53:11,815
Speaker 2: you know, we're getting way more technicque We've got far

952
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:14,815
Speaker 2: more information about our how houses perform, right, we can

953
00:53:14,815 --> 00:53:16,815
Speaker 2: model them that we can understand how they perform, and

954
00:53:16,855 --> 00:53:19,175
Speaker 2: then you go, okay, So in this type of roof space,

955
00:53:19,615 --> 00:53:22,335
Speaker 2: maybe we do need to add some ventilation or maybe

956
00:53:22,615 --> 00:53:25,095
Speaker 2: the way in which all of those components were assembled.

957
00:53:25,135 --> 00:53:27,055
Speaker 2: If you assemble them in a different way, you'd get

958
00:53:27,095 --> 00:53:30,775
Speaker 2: a different outcome. You know, maybe it's an issue with

959
00:53:31,535 --> 00:53:35,175
Speaker 2: where the insulation. There's so much again, brands are doing

960
00:53:35,175 --> 00:53:37,735
Speaker 2: a lot of work around warm roofs and what they

961
00:53:37,775 --> 00:53:40,615
Speaker 2: look like and how they can help control moisture, et cetera,

962
00:53:40,655 --> 00:53:43,695
Speaker 2: et cetera. In terms of getting someone on site to

963
00:53:44,095 --> 00:53:46,095
Speaker 2: kind of give you some guidance and have a look

964
00:53:46,095 --> 00:53:47,935
Speaker 2: at it, I would be doing a bit of a

965
00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:51,295
Speaker 2: search around someone in your area who's interested in building science,

966
00:53:52,215 --> 00:53:55,535
Speaker 2: or maybe you go through to someone like the super

967
00:53:55,575 --> 00:53:59,415
Speaker 2: home movement for a recommendation. You could look for building

968
00:53:59,455 --> 00:54:02,055
Speaker 2: surveys who have an interest in building science, and there's

969
00:54:02,095 --> 00:54:04,335
Speaker 2: a number of them out there, and then you know

970
00:54:04,455 --> 00:54:06,215
Speaker 2: it's going to cost, but they'll be able to prove

971
00:54:06,575 --> 00:54:08,895
Speaker 2: you with some real evidence as to what's happening up there.

972
00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:10,335
Speaker 7: Going to run.

973
00:54:10,375 --> 00:54:12,895
Speaker 2: Sure, thanks mate, and much appreciate it all the best

974
00:54:12,895 --> 00:54:14,455
Speaker 2: and let us know how you get on it is

975
00:54:15,135 --> 00:54:18,175
Speaker 2: nineteen minutes after seven. Will take a short break and

976
00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:19,455
Speaker 2: then we'll be talking with David.

977
00:54:20,135 --> 00:54:22,775
Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks some is the

978
00:54:22,815 --> 00:54:24,335
Speaker 1: time to get a sort of call.

979
00:54:24,615 --> 00:54:28,215
Speaker 12: Eight hundred eighty eighty. The resident builder with Peter Worlfcare

980
00:54:28,535 --> 00:54:29,375
Speaker 12: used talks be.

981
00:54:29,815 --> 00:54:31,495
Speaker 2: Your News Talk said be the lines are open, the

982
00:54:31,535 --> 00:54:34,535
Speaker 2: number to call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty David, good.

983
00:54:34,455 --> 00:54:40,055
Speaker 14: Morning, Yes, good morning. Peter agreed. So, yeah, just to

984
00:54:40,055 --> 00:54:44,055
Speaker 14: touch on the seventy square meter dwelling and rule again,

985
00:54:44,175 --> 00:54:48,215
Speaker 14: do you know if it applies to rural properties or

986
00:54:48,335 --> 00:54:51,415
Speaker 14: the so called life sentence properties.

987
00:54:52,295 --> 00:54:55,895
Speaker 2: I've heard them call that. I believe they do. And again,

988
00:54:57,055 --> 00:55:02,215
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that has been you know,

989
00:55:02,295 --> 00:55:05,855
Speaker 2: the discussion has been sort of along lines of you

990
00:55:05,855 --> 00:55:08,175
Speaker 2: can build seventy square meetings, you don't need to consent,

991
00:55:08,335 --> 00:55:10,495
Speaker 2: and the implication being where you can do what you like.

992
00:55:11,175 --> 00:55:15,095
Speaker 2: The reality is you can't, right, So whatever you happen

993
00:55:15,175 --> 00:55:18,415
Speaker 2: to do, you will still have to comply with planning legislation.

994
00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:22,015
Speaker 2: The other thing that hasn't been talked about too much

995
00:55:22,175 --> 00:55:26,415
Speaker 2: is covenants in subdivisions. But you know, let's say you're

996
00:55:26,415 --> 00:55:29,735
Speaker 2: on a lifestyle block and maybe there's a covenant that

997
00:55:29,815 --> 00:55:33,055
Speaker 2: says there can only be a primary dwelling, in which

998
00:55:33,055 --> 00:55:36,895
Speaker 2: case you can't go against the covenant, Or if there

999
00:55:36,935 --> 00:55:40,455
Speaker 2: are other planning legislations that don't allow for it, I

1000
00:55:40,495 --> 00:55:44,735
Speaker 2: would imagine that it has to comply. But in general, yes,

1001
00:55:45,335 --> 00:55:49,215
Speaker 2: there's no seeming distinction between let's say rural and.

1002
00:55:49,295 --> 00:55:53,495
Speaker 14: Urban, right So, so basically is the planning is going

1003
00:55:53,535 --> 00:55:53,855
Speaker 14: to be there.

1004
00:55:53,895 --> 00:55:57,135
Speaker 2: Gup, Yes, and that will be the case all across

1005
00:55:57,135 --> 00:56:00,615
Speaker 2: the country. So you know, let's say you're in an

1006
00:56:00,695 --> 00:56:03,935
Speaker 2: older established suburb and you happen to have a quarter acre, right,

1007
00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:07,055
Speaker 2: so you've got over a thousand squams of land. You

1008
00:56:07,095 --> 00:56:09,175
Speaker 2: got plenty of spased to put a seventy square metera

1009
00:56:09,215 --> 00:56:12,735
Speaker 2: dwelling on there. It can be two meters from the boundary,

1010
00:56:12,775 --> 00:56:15,935
Speaker 2: it can be two meters from there. There's sufficient infrastructure

1011
00:56:15,975 --> 00:56:19,135
Speaker 2: and so on. There shouldn't be any reason that counsel

1012
00:56:19,175 --> 00:56:23,175
Speaker 2: would deny you the planning permission to do it. Or

1013
00:56:23,175 --> 00:56:26,215
Speaker 2: maybe they will. We don't know because not many people

1014
00:56:26,215 --> 00:56:29,175
Speaker 2: have tested it, given that it's only become law in

1015
00:56:29,215 --> 00:56:30,015
Speaker 2: the last week or so.

1016
00:56:32,375 --> 00:56:36,335
Speaker 14: As your website or something to find that yep, so I.

1017
00:56:36,295 --> 00:56:38,695
Speaker 2: Was reading some of it yesterday. The best place to

1018
00:56:38,735 --> 00:56:41,655
Speaker 2: start is just the building dot gov dot NZ or

1019
00:56:41,695 --> 00:56:45,255
Speaker 2: go to the INBIE website and there will be guidance there.

1020
00:56:46,175 --> 00:56:49,255
Speaker 2: And there's been a number of sort of individual commentators

1021
00:56:49,295 --> 00:56:52,855
Speaker 2: who have started to sort of publish summaries of it.

1022
00:56:54,055 --> 00:56:57,815
Speaker 2: I mentioned Mike Blackburn last week. He's a building consultant

1023
00:56:57,895 --> 00:57:01,295
Speaker 2: and commentator in christ Church. Like she had a bit

1024
00:57:01,375 --> 00:57:03,455
Speaker 2: of a chat with him during the week. He did

1025
00:57:03,455 --> 00:57:05,975
Speaker 2: a very good summary. You can find him on Facebook

1026
00:57:05,975 --> 00:57:12,255
Speaker 2: for example. I know brands. Actually, what's interesting with Brands

1027
00:57:12,335 --> 00:57:15,135
Speaker 2: is they're going to be releasing a set of sort

1028
00:57:15,175 --> 00:57:20,295
Speaker 2: of code compliant building plans, so if you're interested in something,

1029
00:57:20,575 --> 00:57:23,535
Speaker 2: you can see what's what's involved in it. But yeah,

1030
00:57:23,535 --> 00:57:26,815
Speaker 2: there's there's information on the government website, so building dot

1031
00:57:26,815 --> 00:57:28,655
Speaker 2: gov dot MZ has got guidance there.

1032
00:57:29,535 --> 00:57:32,855
Speaker 12: Right, Okay, good luck, thanks too much for all the

1033
00:57:32,895 --> 00:57:33,255
Speaker 12: very best.

1034
00:57:33,255 --> 00:57:35,895
Speaker 2: Take care. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We've got

1035
00:57:35,975 --> 00:57:38,535
Speaker 2: lines free, call us now. I eight hundred eighty ten

1036
00:57:38,615 --> 00:57:44,975
Speaker 2: eighty Michael, good morning, Hello Michael. Oh, crikey, where's he gone?

1037
00:57:45,535 --> 00:57:47,495
Speaker 2: What do I do? I am not a double clicked

1038
00:57:50,255 --> 00:57:56,015
Speaker 2: the mouses plan up. I'm going to blame the technology. Well,

1039
00:57:56,135 --> 00:57:58,375
Speaker 2: it works for a while. I eight hundred eighty ten

1040
00:57:58,495 --> 00:58:02,695
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call. Why does the secondary

1041
00:58:02,895 --> 00:58:05,495
Speaker 2: tiny home have to be two meters from the boundary

1042
00:58:05,535 --> 00:58:09,055
Speaker 2: yet the prime is only a meter away. I would

1043
00:58:09,095 --> 00:58:11,735
Speaker 2: imagine it's to do with the building the fact that

1044
00:58:11,775 --> 00:58:14,335
Speaker 2: they don't need a building consent, so it's a bit

1045
00:58:14,335 --> 00:58:19,615
Speaker 2: of a safety measure in terms of building control, to say,

1046
00:58:19,655 --> 00:58:22,295
Speaker 2: if you make the building two meters from the boundary,

1047
00:58:22,415 --> 00:58:24,695
Speaker 2: even if there's an eve or an overhang of say

1048
00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:28,495
Speaker 2: three or four hundred, it's not going to infringe. It's

1049
00:58:28,535 --> 00:58:31,535
Speaker 2: also you know, if you push the building away from

1050
00:58:31,575 --> 00:58:35,255
Speaker 2: the boundary and you're limited in terms of the overall

1051
00:58:35,375 --> 00:58:37,535
Speaker 2: height which is set out so the building can be

1052
00:58:37,575 --> 00:58:39,455
Speaker 2: a maximum I think off the top of my head

1053
00:58:39,455 --> 00:58:42,055
Speaker 2: of something like three point six meters high. You know,

1054
00:58:42,135 --> 00:58:44,575
Speaker 2: three point six and a meter from the boundary has

1055
00:58:44,655 --> 00:58:48,135
Speaker 2: quite a different impact on a neighbor than three point

1056
00:58:48,175 --> 00:58:51,495
Speaker 2: six meters overall two meters from the boundary. So I

1057
00:58:51,535 --> 00:58:54,775
Speaker 2: think it's a simple way of saying, we're just going

1058
00:58:54,815 --> 00:58:57,015
Speaker 2: to make it two meters from the boundary and then

1059
00:58:57,055 --> 00:59:00,175
Speaker 2: we don't have an issue with that, hopefully right he

1060
00:59:00,295 --> 00:59:05,095
Speaker 2: oh oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty Graham, good morning,

1061
00:59:06,295 --> 00:59:10,095
Speaker 2: Good morning, that was quick, mate. We're not mucking around today.

1062
00:59:11,295 --> 00:59:13,935
Speaker 2: It's no muck around Sunday, that's what it is today.

1063
00:59:15,375 --> 00:59:20,295
Speaker 19: Good wish get some sunshine. A few a few years

1064
00:59:20,335 --> 00:59:22,575
Speaker 19: ago raung you about Vlux skylights.

1065
00:59:22,735 --> 00:59:24,615
Speaker 12: Yes, leaking, sure.

1066
00:59:25,535 --> 00:59:29,135
Speaker 19: Now what they someone came out and sealed one off,

1067
00:59:29,215 --> 00:59:30,695
Speaker 19: but I don't know where they seal the other one.

1068
00:59:30,695 --> 00:59:33,735
Speaker 19: But it's leaking again. I've got a very light leak.

1069
00:59:33,935 --> 00:59:36,295
Speaker 19: The only way you know it's leaking. You can see

1070
00:59:36,295 --> 00:59:39,495
Speaker 19: a wee bit of water on the ceiling glass.

1071
00:59:39,895 --> 00:59:42,415
Speaker 20: Yes, I took it off and.

1072
00:59:43,255 --> 00:59:47,615
Speaker 19: It's certainly leaking a bit with all the bloody Rhinigan. Yes,

1073
00:59:47,895 --> 00:59:51,215
Speaker 19: but if you got someone in christ Chuch you knew that.

1074
00:59:51,455 --> 00:59:52,135
Speaker 3: Deals with those.

1075
00:59:53,695 --> 00:59:57,535
Speaker 2: Look, if it's a Thelux right, like an actual genuine Vlux,

1076
00:59:57,655 --> 01:00:00,775
Speaker 2: then I would just give Velux a call. They will

1077
01:00:00,855 --> 01:00:05,695
Speaker 2: have agents in christ Church, you know they're they're not

1078
01:00:06,375 --> 01:00:08,335
Speaker 2: they licensed to them. I'm not sure Felux have got

1079
01:00:08,335 --> 01:00:11,415
Speaker 2: their own team, but then there's often you know, they've

1080
01:00:11,415 --> 01:00:14,055
Speaker 2: got their preferred installers. So if it was up here

1081
01:00:14,055 --> 01:00:16,535
Speaker 2: in Auckland, I'd say you dring Google and he would

1082
01:00:16,575 --> 01:00:19,375
Speaker 2: sort you out. But in christ Church, I'm not sure who,

1083
01:00:19,455 --> 01:00:22,695
Speaker 2: but I would start with Felix and can I also

1084
01:00:22,775 --> 01:00:26,535
Speaker 2: say that in many cases when these things leak, people think,

1085
01:00:26,615 --> 01:00:29,855
Speaker 2: oh it's the Velux leaking, and nine times out of

1086
01:00:29,855 --> 01:00:32,535
Speaker 2: ten it's the flashings around it, and that might be

1087
01:00:32,655 --> 01:00:35,095
Speaker 2: part of the installation, it might be somebody else. So

1088
01:00:36,015 --> 01:00:39,855
Speaker 2: I have seen them installed, and actually mates of mine

1089
01:00:39,935 --> 01:00:42,855
Speaker 2: send me pictures when they go to jobs and they go, hey, look,

1090
01:00:42,895 --> 01:00:45,375
Speaker 2: someone said that it's the skylight leaking. And then we've

1091
01:00:45,375 --> 01:00:47,695
Speaker 2: turned up and found that the roof for or whoever

1092
01:00:48,135 --> 01:00:54,335
Speaker 2: has done the flashings completely wrong. And I've seen photographs

1093
01:00:54,375 --> 01:00:56,855
Speaker 2: of the way in which some contractors are doing their

1094
01:00:56,895 --> 01:01:00,335
Speaker 2: flashings and upstands and that sort of thing, and it's like, well, no,

1095
01:01:00,375 --> 01:01:02,895
Speaker 2: wonder the damn thing leaks, or there's no flashing at all,

1096
01:01:02,895 --> 01:01:05,255
Speaker 2: and they've just watched it up with silicon or something

1097
01:01:05,295 --> 01:01:10,095
Speaker 2: like that. But you know, a suitably experienced and qualified

1098
01:01:10,135 --> 01:01:12,575
Speaker 2: person could come and sort that out. Just talk to Elux.

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01:01:13,735 --> 01:01:19,015
Speaker 19: Well, what's your opinion of the lasting of them? Look,

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01:01:19,055 --> 01:01:22,855
Speaker 19: I heard that they had given a bit of thirty

1101
01:01:22,935 --> 01:01:24,095
Speaker 19: thirty five year life.

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01:01:24,815 --> 01:01:28,215
Speaker 2: It's probably far in excess of what they're actually warranted for.

1103
01:01:29,055 --> 01:01:32,055
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've seen them at thirty thirty five years old,

1104
01:01:32,335 --> 01:01:34,735
Speaker 2: still working. Some of them might look a bit discolored,

1105
01:01:35,535 --> 01:01:37,575
Speaker 2: you know, like the timber in the corners. You can

1106
01:01:37,615 --> 01:01:39,575
Speaker 2: see a little bit of condensation or something, and that's

1107
01:01:39,975 --> 01:01:44,695
Speaker 2: changed the timber. Again, I've seen some that have well

1108
01:01:44,815 --> 01:01:48,855
Speaker 2: at least thirty five years old, which you know, hard

1109
01:01:48,855 --> 01:01:51,615
Speaker 2: to complain about durability at thirty five years old.

1110
01:01:52,735 --> 01:01:55,975
Speaker 19: Yeah, well it's thirty five years when I built the house.

1111
01:01:57,295 --> 01:02:04,015
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, like it meets need some maintenance

1112
01:02:04,055 --> 01:02:06,935
Speaker 2: and some repair. So maybe something's changed, or maybe a

1113
01:02:07,015 --> 01:02:10,015
Speaker 2: seal has started to deteriorate or something like that. Again,

1114
01:02:10,335 --> 01:02:15,375
Speaker 2: those are serviceable items, right and kind of yeah, but

1115
01:02:15,855 --> 01:02:17,695
Speaker 2: I'm sure that can be sorted out.

1116
01:02:18,735 --> 01:02:18,895
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1117
01:02:18,895 --> 01:02:20,415
Speaker 19: Well I was going to get up and have a look,

1118
01:02:20,455 --> 01:02:21,935
Speaker 19: but they tell me I'm not allowed.

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01:02:21,735 --> 01:02:22,055
Speaker 12: To call it.

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Speaker 2: And I would encourage you to listen to the sage

1121
01:02:32,655 --> 01:02:35,295
Speaker 2: advice of those people that say, maybe at eighty seven

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01:02:35,495 --> 01:02:40,135
Speaker 2: you stop climbing on roofs A hoy, lovely to talk

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01:02:40,175 --> 01:02:43,215
Speaker 2: to you, Graham. I'm sure someone will sort you out

1124
01:02:43,255 --> 01:02:45,615
Speaker 2: if they don't give me a call back. All the best.

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01:02:46,335 --> 01:02:49,255
Speaker 2: It is seven thirty one here at news Talk zb

1126
01:02:49,455 --> 01:02:52,135
Speaker 2: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty or nine two ninety two.

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01:02:52,135 --> 01:02:54,175
Speaker 2: We've had some great texts this morning, and some very

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01:02:54,255 --> 01:02:57,175
Speaker 2: succinct ones about the real estate issue that was raised

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01:02:57,215 --> 01:03:00,655
Speaker 2: earlier on so feel free to comment eight hundred eighty

1130
01:03:00,695 --> 01:03:03,335
Speaker 2: ten eighty or nine two nine two back in.

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01:03:03,335 --> 01:03:07,655
Speaker 1: A month, suns Out tools out. If your summer DIY

1132
01:03:07,855 --> 01:03:11,495
Speaker 1: starts here and the resident builder with Peter wilfcare, call

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01:03:11,775 --> 01:03:14,135
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty eight News Talk z B.

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01:03:14,775 --> 01:03:17,775
Speaker 2: Indeed News talks B eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1135
01:03:17,815 --> 01:03:21,375
Speaker 2: the number to call just before we chat with Paul

1136
01:03:21,495 --> 01:03:24,015
Speaker 2: this text and Hi Pete, how many of those seventy

1137
01:03:24,055 --> 01:03:26,815
Speaker 2: squam meta granny flats can one build without consent? If

1138
01:03:26,855 --> 01:03:30,535
Speaker 2: one has a large permeal section we do. We can

1139
01:03:30,695 --> 01:03:33,695
Speaker 2: get o eyes the neighbors view with multiple seventy square

1140
01:03:33,735 --> 01:03:36,455
Speaker 2: meter dwellings two meters from the boundaries, which we don't

1141
01:03:36,495 --> 01:03:39,375
Speaker 2: want to but some people will have no scruples or care.

1142
01:03:40,415 --> 01:03:43,855
Speaker 2: I understand that it is the legislation as it is

1143
01:03:43,855 --> 01:03:47,375
Speaker 2: at the moment, allows for one. So let's say you've

1144
01:03:47,415 --> 01:03:50,335
Speaker 2: got I don't know, you know, and people have them

1145
01:03:50,735 --> 01:03:53,575
Speaker 2: one thousand square meters fifteen hundred square meter section and

1146
01:03:53,655 --> 01:03:59,535
Speaker 2: an urban environment massive backyard that you mow. No, I

1147
01:03:59,615 --> 01:04:02,855
Speaker 2: understand you won't be allowed to then plump down several

1148
01:04:03,015 --> 01:04:06,575
Speaker 2: seventy square meter buildings. Without a building consent, it will

1149
01:04:06,615 --> 01:04:11,015
Speaker 2: only be one. As my understanding, paul A, very good morning.

1150
01:04:12,055 --> 01:04:15,695
Speaker 3: Good morning Pete. Look I've spoken to you about this.

1151
01:04:16,295 --> 01:04:23,215
Speaker 3: These weatherboards on my old villa or so, some of

1152
01:04:23,255 --> 01:04:25,495
Speaker 3: them are cracked and some of them are rotten. So

1153
01:04:26,095 --> 01:04:28,775
Speaker 3: what I've done is I've I've cut them out like

1154
01:04:28,855 --> 01:04:31,215
Speaker 3: I've got a multi telling on my sort of got

1155
01:04:31,215 --> 01:04:35,215
Speaker 3: a few sexes out and replace them with some remove

1156
01:04:35,935 --> 01:04:39,575
Speaker 3: that my babyhead anyway, So I've painted her all now,

1157
01:04:39,655 --> 01:04:44,095
Speaker 3: and I've filled the gaps and all that. But I

1158
01:04:44,135 --> 01:04:48,455
Speaker 3: had this idea. Can I will I be able to

1159
01:04:48,535 --> 01:04:54,135
Speaker 3: rip down some some of that cement billaboard m hmmm

1160
01:04:55,055 --> 01:04:57,975
Speaker 3: for the same size as the weather board. I think

1161
01:04:57,975 --> 01:05:03,975
Speaker 3: they're about two twenty by about twenty mill and so

1162
01:05:04,855 --> 01:05:08,295
Speaker 3: rip down the villa board and put that over top

1163
01:05:08,335 --> 01:05:12,215
Speaker 3: of the old weather board and just glue it with

1164
01:05:12,335 --> 01:05:18,615
Speaker 3: some no more nails and then maybe runner you know,

1165
01:05:18,775 --> 01:05:21,095
Speaker 3: like a nail gun over it. And then I can

1166
01:05:21,575 --> 01:05:26,855
Speaker 3: go around and seal all the seal the gap with

1167
01:05:26,975 --> 01:05:30,535
Speaker 3: some nomal gaps or some you know aidable ceilant, and

1168
01:05:30,575 --> 01:05:32,975
Speaker 3: then paint it and it will look mint, it will

1169
01:05:33,015 --> 01:05:37,015
Speaker 3: look brand new if I put that villaboard over those

1170
01:05:37,895 --> 01:05:41,695
Speaker 3: defected looking old weather boards, do you think if I

1171
01:05:41,695 --> 01:05:44,935
Speaker 3: could do that? And would that compromise any sort of

1172
01:05:46,575 --> 01:05:49,855
Speaker 3: like you know, whether tightness of the building do you

1173
01:05:49,895 --> 01:05:52,935
Speaker 3: think or should I just leave it and just that

1174
01:05:53,135 --> 01:05:56,455
Speaker 3: with what I've got? So do you know what I mean?

1175
01:05:57,535 --> 01:06:02,215
Speaker 2: I have a very clear picture and what I've done. People,

1176
01:06:02,535 --> 01:06:04,935
Speaker 2: I've had a sort of week where you know, it's

1177
01:06:05,015 --> 01:06:08,375
Speaker 2: it's been a pretty tough whole week, so my patience

1178
01:06:08,455 --> 01:06:10,575
Speaker 2: might be but short. But what you're describing to me

1179
01:06:10,895 --> 01:06:14,895
Speaker 2: would look as ugly as all get out. And if

1180
01:06:14,935 --> 01:06:18,015
Speaker 2: I was to go to a property and I'd seen

1181
01:06:18,055 --> 01:06:24,175
Speaker 2: a repair like that, I know it's not a great idea.

1182
01:06:24,295 --> 01:06:26,535
Speaker 2: What you could do if you wanted, if you wanted

1183
01:06:26,575 --> 01:06:30,455
Speaker 2: to go down that path is simply like let's say

1184
01:06:30,455 --> 01:06:32,695
Speaker 2: you've got a patch of rot that's not one hundred

1185
01:06:32,695 --> 01:06:36,055
Speaker 2: millimeters long. You can cut it out, or for example,

1186
01:06:36,095 --> 01:06:37,855
Speaker 2: you could try and treat the rot and then to

1187
01:06:37,935 --> 01:06:40,895
Speaker 2: make it whether tight, you could do say a metal soka,

1188
01:06:41,055 --> 01:06:44,815
Speaker 2: have a metal soka made and put that over one

1189
01:06:44,815 --> 01:06:48,175
Speaker 2: of the issues. Look to be fair, what you're proposing

1190
01:06:48,255 --> 01:06:51,295
Speaker 2: will look really ugly, right, and it won't work particularly

1191
01:06:51,295 --> 01:06:54,895
Speaker 2: well because you can't see properly the junction. You possibly

1192
01:06:54,895 --> 01:06:57,815
Speaker 2: get some condensation between the two surfaces, which is going

1193
01:06:57,855 --> 01:07:01,935
Speaker 2: to accelerate the rot. And it's just it's not how

1194
01:07:01,975 --> 01:07:05,335
Speaker 2: we repair weatherboards. So actually, there was some guys across

1195
01:07:05,375 --> 01:07:07,575
Speaker 2: the road from me doing work on that house. They

1196
01:07:07,615 --> 01:07:09,575
Speaker 2: simply cut out the weather boards, replace some of the

1197
01:07:09,615 --> 01:07:13,295
Speaker 2: new one. That's the beauty of weatherboards, right, They are replaceable,

1198
01:07:14,135 --> 01:07:17,415
Speaker 2: not like bluing. Yeah, and that's the best thing to do.

1199
01:07:17,695 --> 01:07:21,135
Speaker 2: So I understand where you're coming from. It is an idea.

1200
01:07:21,535 --> 01:07:22,935
Speaker 2: Let's be really clear, it's.

1201
01:07:22,895 --> 01:07:24,055
Speaker 11: Not a good idea.

1202
01:07:24,495 --> 01:07:29,695
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate the calls, take care all the best and

1203
01:07:30,015 --> 01:07:34,455
Speaker 2: actually hang on, let me just grab my phone cause

1204
01:07:34,575 --> 01:07:41,495
Speaker 2: me mate, Doogle, who I happen to mention, has flipped

1205
01:07:41,535 --> 01:07:47,255
Speaker 2: me a quick text. Right, So, Graham, the guy to

1206
01:07:47,335 --> 01:07:52,095
Speaker 2: talk to in christ Church is Pere Jacobson. So Peer

1207
01:07:52,815 --> 01:07:55,935
Speaker 2: Jacobson look him up. Well, give us a call back

1208
01:07:55,975 --> 01:07:57,455
Speaker 2: and I'll give you his number. I won't give his

1209
01:07:57,575 --> 01:07:59,815
Speaker 2: number out on are So there you go. There's an

1210
01:07:59,815 --> 01:08:02,415
Speaker 2: answer to the v Lux installer and christ Church for you.

1211
01:08:02,775 --> 01:08:05,975
Speaker 2: Oh wait, hundred, So Graham, give us a callback and

1212
01:08:06,335 --> 01:08:07,975
Speaker 2: I'll pass on that number and someone will sort you

1213
01:08:08,015 --> 01:08:09,095
Speaker 2: out this week, I'm sure.

1214
01:08:09,495 --> 01:08:14,455
Speaker 9: Jim, good morning, Yeah, good morning better. Yeah, I wonder

1215
01:08:14,495 --> 01:08:16,295
Speaker 9: if you could give us a little bit of advice.

1216
01:08:16,575 --> 01:08:16,815
Speaker 7: Sure.

1217
01:08:17,055 --> 01:08:20,535
Speaker 9: We've got a house here that we bought six years ago.

1218
01:08:20,815 --> 01:08:25,215
Speaker 9: It's brick and tile house, built in nineteen eighty five.

1219
01:08:26,815 --> 01:08:31,015
Speaker 9: And then when they put the building paper on in

1220
01:08:31,095 --> 01:08:34,775
Speaker 9: the in the ceiling, in the in the on the roof,

1221
01:08:35,255 --> 01:08:39,535
Speaker 9: they didn't put any netting under it. Yes, So now

1222
01:08:39,815 --> 01:08:42,615
Speaker 9: some of the building paper has become brittle yep, and

1223
01:08:43,015 --> 01:08:48,455
Speaker 9: it's breaking away now as far as I can imagine,

1224
01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:50,575
Speaker 9: the only way to replace that would be to take

1225
01:08:50,615 --> 01:08:53,655
Speaker 9: the whole roof off. Is that the only option.

1226
01:08:55,775 --> 01:08:58,775
Speaker 2: To do it properly? Yes? Is the short answer.

1227
01:09:03,215 --> 01:09:03,615
Speaker 18: Too?

1228
01:09:04,255 --> 01:09:06,455
Speaker 9: Is that you know, is that going to be a

1229
01:09:06,495 --> 01:09:11,375
Speaker 9: major problem to me? Well, well, I don't know, sell

1230
01:09:11,415 --> 01:09:12,175
Speaker 9: a place.

1231
01:09:12,015 --> 01:09:19,335
Speaker 2: Or or a couple of quick questions Jim. Rough, So

1232
01:09:19,415 --> 01:09:23,775
Speaker 2: this is a trust roof with concrete roof tiles on it.

1233
01:09:24,775 --> 01:09:28,415
Speaker 9: No, No, it's got dechromatic roof tiles on it, okay,

1234
01:09:28,455 --> 01:09:30,975
Speaker 9: And they were installed in nineteen eighty five when the

1235
01:09:30,975 --> 01:09:31,695
Speaker 9: house was built.

1236
01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:35,895
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so they look you know.

1237
01:09:35,775 --> 01:09:39,135
Speaker 9: They looking good order at Yeah, you know, there's nothing,

1238
01:09:39,455 --> 01:09:40,175
Speaker 9: nothing wrong with.

1239
01:09:40,135 --> 01:09:46,175
Speaker 2: Them, yes, Okay, Then the roofing underlay is important, and

1240
01:09:47,095 --> 01:09:49,775
Speaker 2: because if it does become brittle or it does start

1241
01:09:49,815 --> 01:09:53,775
Speaker 2: to sag, then potentially any condensation that collects on the

1242
01:09:53,855 --> 01:09:57,895
Speaker 2: underside of that dechromatic roof instead of running along the

1243
01:09:57,975 --> 01:10:02,455
Speaker 2: roofing paper and out into the spouting, we'll find those

1244
01:10:02,535 --> 01:10:05,135
Speaker 2: low spots and if there's a tear in that, then

1245
01:10:05,175 --> 01:10:07,935
Speaker 2: you'll get the condensation collecting in that area and dripping

1246
01:10:07,975 --> 01:10:13,895
Speaker 2: down inside the roof. So that's not ideal. I suppose

1247
01:10:13,935 --> 01:10:16,655
Speaker 2: what you could do in terms of if you did

1248
01:10:16,695 --> 01:10:21,335
Speaker 2: want to make a repair is to get some roofing

1249
01:10:21,415 --> 01:10:25,895
Speaker 2: paper and sort of some roofing paper and there's like

1250
01:10:25,935 --> 01:10:29,815
Speaker 2: a blue band that we often use to hold roofing

1251
01:10:29,895 --> 01:10:35,455
Speaker 2: paper in place right to stop it sagging, and go

1252
01:10:35,855 --> 01:10:39,975
Speaker 2: underneath the roof try and staple some new roofing underlay

1253
01:10:40,095 --> 01:10:44,255
Speaker 2: underneath your old roofing underlay, and then tension that area

1254
01:10:44,335 --> 01:10:47,455
Speaker 2: to take out the dip that's in there with some

1255
01:10:47,615 --> 01:10:51,215
Speaker 2: of that blue tape. It's not a great solution, but

1256
01:10:51,335 --> 01:10:56,255
Speaker 2: it's the better way. It's part of a solution otherwise,

1257
01:10:56,575 --> 01:11:01,655
Speaker 2: Like I mean, look at is it actually causing a problem, Well.

1258
01:11:01,575 --> 01:11:04,255
Speaker 9: Not as far as I know. At the stage. You know,

1259
01:11:04,335 --> 01:11:09,215
Speaker 9: it's not a it's not a huge percentage of the

1260
01:11:09,375 --> 01:11:14,495
Speaker 9: area that it's coming off. Yeah, but I don't know

1261
01:11:14,535 --> 01:11:17,095
Speaker 9: whether there's I haven't been up there to check whether

1262
01:11:17,095 --> 01:11:18,895
Speaker 9: there's condensation dripping down.

1263
01:11:18,935 --> 01:11:23,615
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, I mean, and if it is condensation,

1264
01:11:23,815 --> 01:11:27,175
Speaker 2: it will only be a small amount. But if, for example,

1265
01:11:27,215 --> 01:11:29,495
Speaker 2: there was a small leak and that leak happened to

1266
01:11:29,815 --> 01:11:32,775
Speaker 2: be in the same area as where this paper is sagging,

1267
01:11:32,895 --> 01:11:35,255
Speaker 2: then that's going to be a little bit of a problem.

1268
01:11:35,695 --> 01:11:40,535
Speaker 9: But any leaks, you know, have a problem. If I

1269
01:11:40,775 --> 01:11:44,455
Speaker 9: have to pull our roof off, I've got you know,

1270
01:11:44,775 --> 01:11:47,535
Speaker 9: panels up there as well, it's going to be a major.

1271
01:11:49,775 --> 01:11:53,855
Speaker 2: Look, I guess. You know, when we're looking at repairs

1272
01:11:53,895 --> 01:11:57,095
Speaker 2: like this, you've got a balance that it's a cost

1273
01:11:57,175 --> 01:12:01,455
Speaker 2: benefit analysis, right, So if there's not an issue or

1274
01:12:01,495 --> 01:12:04,095
Speaker 2: a significant issue, then you're not going to go because

1275
01:12:04,295 --> 01:12:07,215
Speaker 2: we're talking a thirty forty thousand dollars a size minimum

1276
01:12:07,335 --> 01:12:10,615
Speaker 2: right to do that, And you wouldn't take that roof

1277
01:12:10,655 --> 01:12:13,015
Speaker 2: off and put it back on again. You'd take that

1278
01:12:13,095 --> 01:12:18,095
Speaker 2: roof off and you'd replace it right, And that roof's

1279
01:12:18,095 --> 01:12:20,775
Speaker 2: getting close to forty years, so it's some stage in

1280
01:12:20,815 --> 01:12:23,335
Speaker 2: the next five to ten years you're probably going to

1281
01:12:23,375 --> 01:12:26,495
Speaker 2: have to contemplate a reroof because it would have reached

1282
01:12:26,495 --> 01:12:29,055
Speaker 2: the end of its serviceable life, in which case you'd

1283
01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,175
Speaker 2: do it then. But I so you could undertake some

1284
01:12:32,215 --> 01:12:35,775
Speaker 2: repairs in an area that's accessible by doing exactly that,

1285
01:12:35,895 --> 01:12:38,255
Speaker 2: putting some paper under their attentioning it with some blue

1286
01:12:38,295 --> 01:12:42,615
Speaker 2: strap and just dealing with that. But then I guess

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Speaker 2: eventually what you'll do is wait and either you or

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Speaker 2: the next owner will lift those panels off, strip the roof,

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Speaker 2: redo the roof, upgrade all of the building paper, hopefully

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Speaker 2: upgrade the insulation, and go from there. But I think

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, very good, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Lovely to talk with you all of this, mate, to

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Speaker 2: take care right. Oh, I'm going to take a break

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Speaker 2: because I need to dig out this number for Graham.

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Speaker 2: So again thanks to Google. He's my Aukland guy. So

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Speaker 2: that's Google from light Works. I'll give him a plug

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Speaker 2: as well, light Works lit WRX. He's probably busy enough,

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Speaker 2: but hey Google, thanks for that, mate, much appreciated. Oh

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Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty we'll talk to Stephanie after

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Speaker 2: the break as well.

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Speaker 1: From summer backyard jobs to big Rennolds. Let's talk it

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Speaker 1: through call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The resident

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Speaker 1: builder with Peter Wilcab News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: Seven eight at Newstalk said, B this text just in.

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Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show about minor dwellings having

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Speaker 2: no building consent. It's totally false news. You need consent

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Speaker 2: for all services, lim report. It's giving counsel to oversee

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Speaker 2: the building and put the responsibility back on the owner.

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Speaker 2: It's not false news, it's actually fact. So the proposed

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Speaker 2: legislation or not, it's not proposed, it's in now right.

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Speaker 2: The legislation will allow people to build up to seventy

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Speaker 2: meters without necessarily requiring building consent. There are still rules

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Speaker 2: and regulations around planning and so on, so you do

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Speaker 2: need to inform counsel, you need to present counsel with

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Speaker 2: evidence of compliance. You need to build in accordance with

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Speaker 2: the building code, but you may not necessarily require a

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Speaker 2: building consent. There is nothing false news about that. So

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Speaker 2: if you want to debate that with me, give me

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Speaker 2: a call. OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: number to call Stephanie.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, good morning, How are you very well?

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Speaker 7: How are you?

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Speaker 20: Oh? Good, thank you. I just wanted to talk about

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Speaker 20: the roofing theme. Sure, because I live in a very

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Speaker 20: very well it's not my house, but they had to

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Speaker 20: get the house redone like the roof and it was

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Speaker 20: like roof and repiling that was built in the eighteen

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Speaker 20: eighteen eighty eight or somewhere like that. So it costs them,

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Speaker 20: like to something grand. And I'm like, how are people

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01:15:08,975 --> 01:15:09,895
Speaker 20: going to afford that?

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Speaker 2: It comes along with home ownership, right, if you own

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Speaker 2: a house, you've also got to be able to look

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Speaker 2: after it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I know, but that's what I'm saying. We're getting

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Speaker 20: pushed out of the system. No, no, who are who

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Speaker 20: are the biggest real estate owners in New Zealand? Would

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Speaker 20: I call it the things?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 20: Oh who are they?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. People own their own houses, right,

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Speaker 2: lots of people own their own houses, is having and

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of New Zealand houses are owned by

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Speaker 2: individual Oh you have to say.

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Speaker 20: We're getting pushed out of the market. The house price

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Speaker 20: is about seven hundred thousand, Yeah, I would say, and

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Speaker 20: so you need one hundred and twenty thousand deposits and

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Speaker 20: what young people are going to get eight when I

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Speaker 20: was young, And.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm not disagreeing with you around housing affordability. I

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Speaker 2: agree there are issues around housing affordability. But I also

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Speaker 2: think that we do ourselves at the service when we

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Speaker 2: tell our young people that they can't do it, because

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Speaker 2: I know you never.

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Speaker 20: Come them they can't. I never say you can't. I

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Speaker 20: always say you can do what? Yeah, I never say

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Speaker 20: you can't. But what I'm saying is when I bought

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Speaker 20: my first house and I was oh, I think I

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01:16:35,455 --> 01:16:40,095
Speaker 20: was sixteen seventeen, and my house was like eighty one

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Speaker 20: thousand dollars, so we only needed ten thousand and that

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Speaker 20: wasn't a problem.

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Speaker 2: But I would imagine that at the same time your

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Speaker 2: income would have been considerably less. So look, I would

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Speaker 2: wholeheartedly agree with you that I think that housing affordability

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01:16:59,015 --> 01:17:01,495
Speaker 2: is out of whack at the moment, so we can't

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Speaker 2: afford it. There's a metric around household income or income.

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Speaker 20: And our grandparents, our grandparents, our young ones are going

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Speaker 20: to have to be living all in the same house, and.

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Speaker 2: That may well be part of the case. There are

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Speaker 2: is the beginning of some Well, look, actually, if you

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Speaker 2: look at the numbers at the moment, the best thing

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Speaker 2: that's come out of sort of the price fall and

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Speaker 2: the oversupply of housing is that the number of houses

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Speaker 2: sold to first time buyers is the highest it's been

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Speaker 2: for a number of years.

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Speaker 20: But where are they from?

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Speaker 11: Background?

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Speaker 20: It does actually matter a little bit. You have to

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Speaker 20: be a little bit what's going on. Well, I'm not racist,

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Speaker 20: but I know I know what the background is. And

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Speaker 20: if you look up the phone book and if you

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Speaker 20: see more things than you see normal not normal, but.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you're deciding who's normal. Thanks very much. It

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Speaker 2: is seven fifty two and still'd be matteo Matte, Hello there.

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Speaker 11: Good morning. The idea. I've got a roofing line. Question there,

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Speaker 11: I got up. I got a roofing ie, it's like

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Speaker 11: about twenty eight years old. On to them up a

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01:18:19,135 --> 01:18:21,855
Speaker 11: roof on my house there and it's done. The rust

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01:18:21,895 --> 01:18:24,895
Speaker 11: at the ends. I'm thinking, should I give a little

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Speaker 11: bit of aha, and I use a wire brush and

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Speaker 11: try some oil based painte to keep it? Keep it?

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Speaker 11: Thank you for another two years?

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Speaker 2: Good look you're going I think if you if you

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01:18:36,455 --> 01:18:38,855
Speaker 2: start to see rust the quicker you get onto it,

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01:18:38,935 --> 01:18:41,295
Speaker 2: the better, right, So a little bit of oil, a

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01:18:41,335 --> 01:18:43,775
Speaker 2: little bit of you know, hard work with a wire brush,

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01:18:44,815 --> 01:18:49,295
Speaker 2: and then yeah it's it's getting a rust killed type primer.

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01:18:49,415 --> 01:18:53,215
Speaker 2: So there's things like Armtech and other specific primers for

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Speaker 2: roofing iron.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm trying to delay both, trying to put a

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01:18:58,815 --> 01:19:02,175
Speaker 11: pasta onto it because roof and eye is not held

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01:19:02,255 --> 01:19:04,095
Speaker 11: not cheap. I wish it was, but it's not.

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01:19:05,375 --> 01:19:09,815
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think that you know, being vigilant around

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01:19:09,855 --> 01:19:11,935
Speaker 2: your maintenance. So if you see some rust, deal with it.

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01:19:12,655 --> 01:19:14,615
Speaker 2: Take a little bit of the rust off, apply some

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01:19:15,455 --> 01:19:18,135
Speaker 2: specific primer that will have a rust kill element to it.

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01:19:18,455 --> 01:19:21,815
Speaker 2: Apply a top coat that will extend the life. Ultimately,

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01:19:22,135 --> 01:19:25,055
Speaker 2: most roofs need replacing it some stage, but you know,

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01:19:25,495 --> 01:19:28,335
Speaker 2: care and maintenance will give you many many more years

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01:19:28,415 --> 01:19:29,095
Speaker 2: of a route.

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01:19:30,135 --> 01:19:32,815
Speaker 11: Brush and then the oil based paint on it.

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Speaker 2: Or like I did the other day, I no, no no.

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Speaker 2: I discovered a leak the other day in an internal gutter,

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Speaker 2: a genuine internal gutter, So I went up wire brushed

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01:19:43,655 --> 01:19:47,615
Speaker 2: it and then used a product called Injuris, which is

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01:19:47,655 --> 01:19:50,735
Speaker 2: a waterproof compound that you can apply directly over it,

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01:19:50,895 --> 01:19:52,935
Speaker 2: and we've had plenty of.

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Speaker 11: That's what you're talking about there.

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01:19:56,655 --> 01:20:01,935
Speaker 2: Yeah, range, it's probably more expensive than that. There are

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01:20:02,015 --> 01:20:03,935
Speaker 2: similar ones. I just happened to have some of this

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01:20:04,015 --> 01:20:09,615
Speaker 2: available so that that worked. Look it's around, mate, it's around.

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01:20:10,095 --> 01:20:11,975
Speaker 2: Good luck with that and a little bit of maintenance

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01:20:12,015 --> 01:20:15,935
Speaker 2: and a bit of care all the best, right. I

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01:20:15,975 --> 01:20:18,695
Speaker 2: think what we might do is if you don't mind

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01:20:18,895 --> 01:20:22,815
Speaker 2: hold Wendy till after the break, because we are news

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01:20:22,815 --> 01:20:24,855
Speaker 2: coming up top of the hour. This is a great text.

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Speaker 2: Hey Joe here from Central Roofing Room players a bit

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Speaker 2: of insight into the dechromastic roof tiles. Over the last

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01:20:32,615 --> 01:20:36,895
Speaker 2: ten roofing jobs, we've seen a number of dechromatic tile conversions.

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01:20:37,295 --> 01:20:40,575
Speaker 2: These roofs are generally reaching the end of their service

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01:20:40,615 --> 01:20:44,095
Speaker 2: life now unless they've had extensive upkeep. So we're talking

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Speaker 2: about roofs that were laid let's say in the late seventies,

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01:20:47,615 --> 01:20:51,775
Speaker 2: mid eighties. You know, I left school in the mid eighties.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to think it wasn't that long ago, but

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01:20:53,695 --> 01:20:57,655
Speaker 2: it was. So they're getting on a bit anyway. These

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Speaker 2: roofs are generally reaching the end of their life now

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01:20:59,895 --> 01:21:03,695
Speaker 2: unless they have extensive upkeep. Once the tiles begin to deteriorate,

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01:21:04,015 --> 01:21:07,455
Speaker 2: they can develop small splits that allow water in, which

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01:21:07,495 --> 01:21:09,975
Speaker 2: can be very difficult to spot. If a full roof

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01:21:10,095 --> 01:21:14,935
Speaker 2: isn't an option, there are replacement tiles still available or

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01:21:14,975 --> 01:21:18,375
Speaker 2: homeowners or they can call these guys. When replacing a

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01:21:18,375 --> 01:21:20,935
Speaker 2: tile roof, it's important that the old timber, pearlins and

1443
01:21:21,015 --> 01:21:24,295
Speaker 2: roofing paper are removed and that an asbestos test is

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01:21:24,295 --> 01:21:28,615
Speaker 2: carried out. You're absolutely right, because some of that has

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01:21:28,655 --> 01:21:33,535
Speaker 2: still got asbestos. And also when you're doing a reroof,

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01:21:33,575 --> 01:21:36,255
Speaker 2: particularly on those ones that are the pressed metal tiles

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01:21:36,255 --> 01:21:40,815
Speaker 2: often with the met ere the stones embedded in them

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01:21:40,855 --> 01:21:44,815
Speaker 2: as well, the perlins are tuber ones, right, so you

1449
01:21:44,895 --> 01:21:49,055
Speaker 2: need to remove or have those substituted by perlins that

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01:21:49,095 --> 01:21:51,015
Speaker 2: are seventy five y fifty. So there's a bit of

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01:21:51,015 --> 01:21:55,135
Speaker 2: work involved in doing the reroof. And our texter is

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01:21:55,135 --> 01:21:57,575
Speaker 2: off to inspect some leaking roofs and I'm sure there's

1453
01:21:57,575 --> 01:22:01,095
Speaker 2: plenty of those after the weather we've had this week. Right, Yeah,

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01:22:01,255 --> 01:22:03,935
Speaker 2: we're back after the break, love chatting with you. We'll

1455
01:22:03,935 --> 01:22:05,255
Speaker 2: talk after the news date.

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Speaker 1: Sawdust, Sunshine and Solid Advice The Resident Builder with Peter

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01:22:18,295 --> 01:22:21,935
Speaker 1: Wolfcab Call eight hundred eighty eighty Youth Talk ZBB.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, good morning, Welcome to the show, or welcome

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01:22:25,375 --> 01:22:26,695
Speaker 2: back to the show. If you've been with us for

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01:22:26,695 --> 01:22:28,975
Speaker 2: a little while, if you're an early riser, or perhaps

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01:22:29,335 --> 01:22:32,695
Speaker 2: you've just sort of got up and stretched, you stretched

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01:22:32,735 --> 01:22:35,055
Speaker 2: and got ready for a new day, Welcome along to

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Speaker 2: the show. Mine, It's Pete wolf Camp. Eight hundred eighty

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01:22:38,095 --> 01:22:40,215
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call if you've got

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01:22:40,215 --> 01:22:43,855
Speaker 2: a building question or a comment. You're more than welcome

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01:22:43,935 --> 01:22:45,735
Speaker 2: to give a spell or to send me a text.

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01:22:45,975 --> 01:22:50,335
Speaker 2: We've had some tremendous texts this morning. Lots of talk

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Speaker 2: about roofing again. I was at an event yesterday chatting

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01:22:56,615 --> 01:22:59,455
Speaker 2: with someone who actually we were talking about the fact

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01:22:59,455 --> 01:23:02,375
Speaker 2: that I remember the last time we spoke, their house

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01:23:02,455 --> 01:23:05,935
Speaker 2: was impacted by the January twenty twenty three floods. So

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01:23:05,975 --> 01:23:08,935
Speaker 2: we come up to the three year anniversary of those

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01:23:08,935 --> 01:23:13,255
Speaker 2: Auckland floods, and of course we've had significant damage and

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01:23:13,455 --> 01:23:16,215
Speaker 2: loss of life tragically as a result of the weather

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01:23:16,295 --> 01:23:20,415
Speaker 2: over the last week. So we were chatting about that,

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01:23:20,495 --> 01:23:26,015
Speaker 2: and he'd undertaken his family had undertaken fairly significant repairs

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01:23:26,455 --> 01:23:29,855
Speaker 2: and upgrades to drainage, which thankfully was working. But in

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01:23:29,895 --> 01:23:33,495
Speaker 2: the heavy rain this week again one window that hadn't

1479
01:23:33,535 --> 01:23:38,055
Speaker 2: been attended to ended up leaking in this particular weather,

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01:23:38,815 --> 01:23:41,815
Speaker 2: And so there's kind of a reminder that there's more

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01:23:41,815 --> 01:23:43,495
Speaker 2: work to do, and I would imagine that lots of

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01:23:43,575 --> 01:23:47,015
Speaker 2: us will have been in exactly that space. Quick texts

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01:23:47,055 --> 01:23:50,615
Speaker 2: before we talk with Wendy. Hey, Pete, my gutters are

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01:23:50,655 --> 01:23:53,535
Speaker 2: leaking in need replacing. Should I wait until I replace

1485
01:23:53,655 --> 01:23:56,255
Speaker 2: the roof? Is it okay to replace the gutters now?

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01:23:56,935 --> 01:24:00,375
Speaker 2: When they replace the roof, they'll keep the gutters thanks

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01:24:00,495 --> 01:24:04,015
Speaker 2: from Helen. Helen, Yeah, there's no reason that you need

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01:24:04,055 --> 01:24:08,615
Speaker 2: to wait to repl the roof to replace the spouting.

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01:24:09,575 --> 01:24:12,535
Speaker 2: You could go ahead and do that. The only caveat

1490
01:24:12,575 --> 01:24:17,815
Speaker 2: to that is unless when you replace the roof, the

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01:24:18,375 --> 01:24:23,015
Speaker 2: roofing material is different, ie it'll be higher or lower

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01:24:23,055 --> 01:24:25,935
Speaker 2: or something like that and impact on that transition from

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01:24:25,975 --> 01:24:29,055
Speaker 2: the roofing into the spouting. But if it's if you've

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01:24:29,055 --> 01:24:32,695
Speaker 2: got long run now and you intend at some stage

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01:24:32,695 --> 01:24:36,375
Speaker 2: to replace the long run with the same material, then

1496
01:24:36,575 --> 01:24:39,695
Speaker 2: replacing the spouting now won't have any impact on the

1497
01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:45,135
Speaker 2: roofing in the future. So go right ahead, and it's

1498
01:24:45,135 --> 01:24:48,855
Speaker 2: one of those things. Now, if we're considering roofing, spouting,

1499
01:24:48,975 --> 01:24:52,175
Speaker 2: down pipes, and drainage, I think we've got to be

1500
01:24:52,255 --> 01:24:56,895
Speaker 2: thinking about completely different types of weather events than what

1501
01:24:57,015 --> 01:25:01,055
Speaker 2: we have done. So, you know, the square meterage, the

1502
01:25:01,175 --> 01:25:04,055
Speaker 2: volume of the spouting, the actual physical size of it,

1503
01:25:04,655 --> 01:25:08,015
Speaker 2: the location of the pipes, the number of down pipes,

1504
01:25:08,055 --> 01:25:11,215
Speaker 2: the size of the down pipes. I think a lot

1505
01:25:11,215 --> 01:25:14,375
Speaker 2: of these things were found to have been not big enough,

1506
01:25:14,695 --> 01:25:17,215
Speaker 2: not sufficient to cope with the sorts of downpaws that

1507
01:25:17,215 --> 01:25:21,095
Speaker 2: we're getting, and then we're getting more surface flooding. But also,

1508
01:25:21,135 --> 01:25:23,015
Speaker 2: of course if we capture it and direct it to

1509
01:25:23,095 --> 01:25:26,135
Speaker 2: the storm water system, then you do so in the

1510
01:25:26,175 --> 01:25:29,495
Speaker 2: hope that the storm water system itself is able to cope,

1511
01:25:29,975 --> 01:25:34,415
Speaker 2: and arguably in Auckland anyway, it's not because pretty much

1512
01:25:34,455 --> 01:25:38,615
Speaker 2: every time we get reasonable amount of rain, there's no

1513
01:25:38,735 --> 01:25:44,175
Speaker 2: swim notices at the beach. I went down for a

1514
01:25:44,215 --> 01:25:46,815
Speaker 2: swim a couple of weeks ago after some heavy rain,

1515
01:25:46,895 --> 01:25:50,015
Speaker 2: and someone was coming back from the beach and said,

1516
01:25:50,095 --> 01:25:53,735
Speaker 2: you know, there's a notice and I'm like, ah, well,

1517
01:25:53,815 --> 01:25:56,615
Speaker 2: I didn't until now, but still going for a swim.

1518
01:25:56,775 --> 01:25:59,375
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1519
01:25:59,415 --> 01:26:02,175
Speaker 2: to call and let me see you know it's tidy

1520
01:26:02,255 --> 01:26:05,095
Speaker 2: my screen up. But Wendy a very good morning to you.

1521
01:26:06,855 --> 01:26:12,895
Speaker 2: Hello Wendy now of lost her and I don't know how,

1522
01:26:13,095 --> 01:26:16,495
Speaker 2: probably my own incompetence, but Wendy gives a callback that

1523
01:26:16,535 --> 01:26:20,095
Speaker 2: would be wonderful. And again thanks to those people who

1524
01:26:20,215 --> 01:26:23,855
Speaker 2: text through gutters replacing, So yes, you can go ahead

1525
01:26:23,895 --> 01:26:29,535
Speaker 2: and do that. There morning. Leonard here says the Texter

1526
01:26:30,135 --> 01:26:32,415
Speaker 2: Good Show. Bought my house twenty years ago, now preparing

1527
01:26:32,455 --> 01:26:34,815
Speaker 2: it for the market. In early twenty twenty seven, bought

1528
01:26:34,935 --> 01:26:36,775
Speaker 2: a limb. Who's that one?

1529
01:26:36,815 --> 01:26:37,135
Speaker 11: Gone?

1530
01:26:38,455 --> 01:26:40,895
Speaker 2: Bordalim. The only concern is the planning section that has

1531
01:26:40,935 --> 01:26:44,775
Speaker 2: an unauthorized or unauthorized alterations to the dwelling. What's the

1532
01:26:44,775 --> 01:26:47,135
Speaker 2: best way to approach this? Do I ignore it and

1533
01:26:47,215 --> 01:26:50,775
Speaker 2: let buyer beware or investigate with Auckland counselors to the

1534
01:26:50,815 --> 01:26:53,935
Speaker 2: issues and then remedy. What would your advice be? FYI?

1535
01:26:54,215 --> 01:26:56,975
Speaker 2: The property file shows that's had two building reports which

1536
01:26:57,015 --> 01:26:59,655
Speaker 2: were passed in terms of being well built, safe and sanitary,

1537
01:26:59,895 --> 01:27:02,695
Speaker 2: and the reno improved the structure. Okay, that's getting a

1538
01:27:02,735 --> 01:27:06,575
Speaker 2: little bit complicated. If there is a note from or

1539
01:27:06,655 --> 01:27:11,335
Speaker 2: saying that there are unauthorized building alterations or unauthorized alterations

1540
01:27:11,735 --> 01:27:13,855
Speaker 2: to the dwelling, I would go back to them and

1541
01:27:13,895 --> 01:27:16,855
Speaker 2: get some more information on that. Then, if you want

1542
01:27:16,895 --> 01:27:18,855
Speaker 2: to tidy that up from a legal point of view

1543
01:27:18,895 --> 01:27:21,615
Speaker 2: or a building consent point of view, typically you would

1544
01:27:21,655 --> 01:27:25,655
Speaker 2: engage a building survey who could then do who could

1545
01:27:25,695 --> 01:27:29,175
Speaker 2: apply for a certificate of acceptance. That then wraps up

1546
01:27:29,215 --> 01:27:33,135
Speaker 2: the legality of that work and put it to market

1547
01:27:33,175 --> 01:27:36,375
Speaker 2: with that. Because certainly properties that are going to market

1548
01:27:36,815 --> 01:27:44,735
Speaker 2: with unauthorized building works, banks are less willing to lend,

1549
01:27:44,815 --> 01:27:49,975
Speaker 2: and insurers potentially have some questions around ensuring properties where

1550
01:27:49,975 --> 01:27:52,895
Speaker 2: there's unauthorized work. So I think the answer is get

1551
01:27:52,895 --> 01:27:55,215
Speaker 2: it sorted out. Wendy, you're back with us. Thank you

1552
01:27:55,215 --> 01:27:55,855
Speaker 2: for calling back.

1553
01:27:56,095 --> 01:28:00,175
Speaker 10: Hi there, Oh, hello, your last caller with regards to

1554
01:28:00,255 --> 01:28:04,335
Speaker 10: spouting and moving. That answered some of my questions. I've

1555
01:28:04,455 --> 01:28:08,215
Speaker 10: just had some repairs to spouting and people told me

1556
01:28:08,255 --> 01:28:11,975
Speaker 10: there's some holes in the roof, and I'm trying to

1557
01:28:12,015 --> 01:28:14,295
Speaker 10: work out whether or not they could be patched up

1558
01:28:14,335 --> 01:28:16,455
Speaker 10: and have a roof feeler put over it, or whether

1559
01:28:16,495 --> 01:28:19,335
Speaker 10: I need to go to reroof. But is there any

1560
01:28:19,495 --> 01:28:22,455
Speaker 10: any firms do both? Is anybody going to give me

1561
01:28:22,495 --> 01:28:24,655
Speaker 10: a really honest opinion on that?

1562
01:28:26,095 --> 01:28:26,735
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean.

1563
01:28:28,495 --> 01:28:30,815
Speaker 2: From a technical point of view, I've had a number

1564
01:28:30,815 --> 01:28:34,255
Speaker 2: of discussions with people around the efficacy, let's say, of

1565
01:28:34,335 --> 01:28:38,895
Speaker 2: putting a sealer over the top. Yes, there are instances

1566
01:28:38,935 --> 01:28:41,855
Speaker 2: where it can be done and where it'll be successful.

1567
01:28:42,655 --> 01:28:47,815
Speaker 2: There are other instances where potentially it's contributed to decreasing

1568
01:28:47,895 --> 01:28:51,135
Speaker 2: the lifespan of the existing roof by applying them. So

1569
01:28:53,855 --> 01:28:57,775
Speaker 2: and again, if I partly my approach has been in

1570
01:28:57,815 --> 01:29:01,575
Speaker 2: some instances I would I would undertake a patched repair

1571
01:29:01,655 --> 01:29:04,535
Speaker 2: or a targeted repair to a bit of roofing iron

1572
01:29:04,575 --> 01:29:08,975
Speaker 2: that's showing decay and order to give some time before

1573
01:29:09,015 --> 01:29:12,815
Speaker 2: the roof needs replacing. But in some cases roof replacement

1574
01:29:12,895 --> 01:29:16,455
Speaker 2: is simply required right it's reached the end of its

1575
01:29:16,535 --> 01:29:22,655
Speaker 2: serviceable life, so an independent contractor. My sole piece of

1576
01:29:22,655 --> 01:29:25,695
Speaker 2: advice on this would be, if you're going to engage

1577
01:29:25,695 --> 01:29:28,735
Speaker 2: a contractor to look at roofing, make sure they're a

1578
01:29:28,735 --> 01:29:33,255
Speaker 2: member of the Roofing Association of New Zealand so r

1579
01:29:33,855 --> 01:29:36,495
Speaker 2: n Z. If you're going to get someone, go to

1580
01:29:36,535 --> 01:29:39,895
Speaker 2: their website, find a contractor, and I think there's a

1581
01:29:40,055 --> 01:29:43,935
Speaker 2: higher level of confidence in their opinion if they're a

1582
01:29:43,975 --> 01:29:48,935
Speaker 2: member of the Roofing Association. That's where I would start.

1583
01:29:49,935 --> 01:29:52,775
Speaker 10: Okay, it's got an iron roof on it at the moment.

1584
01:29:54,135 --> 01:29:57,615
Speaker 10: If it did need to be replaced, would one go

1585
01:29:58,135 --> 01:30:02,175
Speaker 10: to long run or just replace a corrugated iron?

1586
01:30:02,375 --> 01:30:04,775
Speaker 2: Well, corrugated iron is long run, So long run is

1587
01:30:04,815 --> 01:30:11,295
Speaker 2: a way of describing a roofing material that's roll formed in. However,

1588
01:30:11,415 --> 01:30:16,055
Speaker 2: whatever length you want, right, whatever the profile is is well.

1589
01:30:16,215 --> 01:30:18,935
Speaker 2: The profile might have an impact depending on the roof pitch.

1590
01:30:19,295 --> 01:30:21,535
Speaker 2: But let's say if it's anything above say ten or

1591
01:30:21,535 --> 01:30:24,295
Speaker 2: twelve degrees, you can use any profile that you want.

1592
01:30:24,695 --> 01:30:29,295
Speaker 2: Some profiles, so like a corrugated profile that's true oak,

1593
01:30:29,655 --> 01:30:32,495
Speaker 2: which has a higher rise in it. That's better for

1594
01:30:32,575 --> 01:30:35,095
Speaker 2: low pitch roofs. I like it for any roof but

1595
01:30:35,255 --> 01:30:36,695
Speaker 2: that's a personal preference.

1596
01:30:37,695 --> 01:30:38,415
Speaker 12: What was it?

1597
01:30:38,455 --> 01:30:39,175
Speaker 10: You could you repeat that?

1598
01:30:39,695 --> 01:30:44,775
Speaker 2: There's a corrugated profile called true oak. True oak, and

1599
01:30:44,815 --> 01:30:47,415
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more like corrugated dime used to

1600
01:30:47,495 --> 01:30:51,455
Speaker 2: be one hundred years ago, right, So it has a

1601
01:30:50,495 --> 01:30:56,215
Speaker 2: steeper profile, it's got a larger depth, a deeper depth

1602
01:30:56,255 --> 01:30:59,095
Speaker 2: between the ridge and the trough on the profile and

1603
01:30:59,175 --> 01:31:02,295
Speaker 2: so on low pitch roofs, it holds more water, so

1604
01:31:02,335 --> 01:31:05,175
Speaker 2: it's more suitable for low pitch roofs. It's also, in

1605
01:31:05,175 --> 01:31:09,535
Speaker 2: my opinion again stronger because of the engineering of it.

1606
01:31:10,975 --> 01:31:14,815
Speaker 10: Okay, the problem is there's properties in the area that

1607
01:31:14,855 --> 01:31:20,095
Speaker 10: will probably need to be you can be building high

1608
01:31:20,175 --> 01:31:23,775
Speaker 10: rise places on it because of where it's close. So

1609
01:31:23,815 --> 01:31:26,455
Speaker 10: that's why I was looking to see whether or not

1610
01:31:26,535 --> 01:31:30,375
Speaker 10: it's going to be a petchable up option for a

1611
01:31:30,375 --> 01:31:32,735
Speaker 10: few years or not. Do you think that if I

1612
01:31:32,735 --> 01:31:35,655
Speaker 10: can find somebody on the rooting association to give me

1613
01:31:35,695 --> 01:31:37,575
Speaker 10: their honest opinion, that would be the way to go.

1614
01:31:37,815 --> 01:31:39,655
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean you know these things are often

1615
01:31:39,735 --> 01:31:43,335
Speaker 2: you know, when we look at repairs, and especially extensive

1616
01:31:43,415 --> 01:31:47,295
Speaker 2: repairs like a reroof then you go, Okay, if it's

1617
01:31:47,335 --> 01:31:49,655
Speaker 2: my home and I tend to be here for fifteen

1618
01:31:49,695 --> 01:31:51,535
Speaker 2: twenty years, or I'm going to sell it and I

1619
01:31:51,575 --> 01:31:54,575
Speaker 2: want to maximize the value, then it's worth the investment.

1620
01:31:54,615 --> 01:31:57,175
Speaker 2: But in your situation of what you're saying is you know,

1621
01:31:57,255 --> 01:31:59,215
Speaker 2: potentially the house to be sold and it's going to

1622
01:31:59,215 --> 01:32:01,495
Speaker 2: be removed, then you don't want to repair that's going

1623
01:32:01,575 --> 01:32:04,095
Speaker 2: to last for thirty years, when the house might not

1624
01:32:04,135 --> 01:32:07,495
Speaker 2: be there in five, in which case do a targeted repair.

1625
01:32:07,815 --> 01:32:10,775
Speaker 2: Use something like Injuris which will last for twenty years.

1626
01:32:10,815 --> 01:32:13,375
Speaker 2: But you could use that or use another product. Get

1627
01:32:13,415 --> 01:32:16,975
Speaker 2: yourself the five years you need and move on.

1628
01:32:18,015 --> 01:32:20,775
Speaker 10: Yes, if I've had five years would be fine. So

1629
01:32:21,015 --> 01:32:25,175
Speaker 10: if I just try and contact the Roofing Association to

1630
01:32:25,215 --> 01:32:25,735
Speaker 10: find out the.

1631
01:32:25,815 --> 01:32:28,975
Speaker 2: Name of yep, I'll tell you what. If you stand

1632
01:32:29,015 --> 01:32:30,415
Speaker 2: the line, I'll give you a number of a guy

1633
01:32:30,455 --> 01:32:33,615
Speaker 2: that you could talk to. Oh plenty down the line.

1634
01:32:33,615 --> 01:32:35,535
Speaker 2: We'll take a short break and I'll find a number

1635
01:32:35,535 --> 01:32:38,295
Speaker 2: for you, Dave. We'll be talking with you straight after the.

1636
01:32:38,215 --> 01:32:42,535
Speaker 1: Break, sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives.

1637
01:32:43,335 --> 01:32:46,895
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1638
01:32:46,935 --> 01:32:48,735
Speaker 1: eighty eight news Talks there'd be.

1639
01:32:49,215 --> 01:32:52,055
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1640
01:32:52,095 --> 01:32:55,175
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1641
01:32:55,735 --> 01:32:58,655
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1642
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1643
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1644
01:33:06,095 --> 01:33:09,335
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1645
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1646
01:33:13,775 --> 01:33:17,055
Speaker 2: or buying something new, or getting what you've already what

1647
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Speaker 2: you've got already ready for summer, your local still shop

1648
01:33:20,735 --> 01:33:24,175
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1649
01:33:24,255 --> 01:33:27,895
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1650
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1651
01:33:30,455 --> 01:33:34,175
Speaker 2: serious after sales and service commitment. No wonder Kiwi's love

1652
01:33:34,215 --> 01:33:36,935
Speaker 2: still shops. Right across the country, there will be one

1653
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Speaker 2: near you shop and store or online with their speedy

1654
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Speaker 2: one hour click and collect or free home delivery still

1655
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1656
01:33:46,615 --> 01:33:49,015
Speaker 12: From summer backyard job to big Rennolds.

1657
01:33:49,135 --> 01:33:51,695
Speaker 1: Let's talk it through call Oh eight hundred and eighty

1658
01:33:51,775 --> 01:33:55,895
Speaker 1: ten eighty the Resident Builder with Peter WILFCAB News Talk zb.

1659
01:33:56,655 --> 01:33:59,855
Speaker 2: You News Talks. It'd be actually quick. We've talked a

1660
01:33:59,895 --> 01:34:02,975
Speaker 2: little bit about the granny flat thing, which I do

1661
01:34:03,015 --> 01:34:05,295
Speaker 2: wish there was a better phrase or the phrase that's

1662
01:34:05,375 --> 01:34:09,255
Speaker 2: used often as simple standalone dwelling or SSD. But I

1663
01:34:09,255 --> 01:34:11,895
Speaker 2: guess we all know what a granny flat means, Hey, Pete.

1664
01:34:11,935 --> 01:34:15,495
Speaker 2: Granny flat legislation makes no mention of geotechnical or engineering

1665
01:34:15,495 --> 01:34:19,695
Speaker 2: requirements for foundations as it would for normal consent application.

1666
01:34:20,095 --> 01:34:22,215
Speaker 2: What do you think is that a gray area? See,

1667
01:34:22,255 --> 01:34:24,335
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that it doesn't. I think that

1668
01:34:24,415 --> 01:34:27,575
Speaker 2: as part of your compliance pathway, you're going to have

1669
01:34:27,615 --> 01:34:30,295
Speaker 2: to provide evidence that your foundations are going to work.

1670
01:34:31,735 --> 01:34:34,135
Speaker 2: So just because you don't need a consent doesn't mean

1671
01:34:34,175 --> 01:34:37,415
Speaker 2: you have to not prove compliance. You will, and I

1672
01:34:37,455 --> 01:34:41,055
Speaker 2: think that's where the geotech will come in. Try and

1673
01:34:41,095 --> 01:34:42,375
Speaker 2: get a few more texts in a minute.

1674
01:34:42,415 --> 01:34:42,575
Speaker 14: Either.

1675
01:34:42,615 --> 01:34:44,735
Speaker 2: This is a great one too. Here's a question if

1676
01:34:44,735 --> 01:34:46,935
Speaker 2: one build a covered walkway between the house and a

1677
01:34:46,975 --> 01:34:51,175
Speaker 2: seventy square meter minor dwelling or standalone dwelling, but left

1678
01:34:51,175 --> 01:34:53,895
Speaker 2: a week gap either side, would that be legal? I

1679
01:34:53,895 --> 01:34:57,095
Speaker 2: think then you have to look at intent, right. The

1680
01:34:57,135 --> 01:35:01,255
Speaker 2: intent is effectively to join those buildings together, and in

1681
01:35:01,295 --> 01:35:04,415
Speaker 2: that instance, again, those sorts of buildings should have a

1682
01:35:04,415 --> 01:35:06,535
Speaker 2: building consent. This comes off a back of a an

1683
01:35:06,535 --> 01:35:08,695
Speaker 2: earlier call from someone who said, well, look if I

1684
01:35:08,735 --> 01:35:11,415
Speaker 2: do a seventy square meter SSD in the back yard

1685
01:35:11,615 --> 01:35:13,975
Speaker 2: and then I go and build a little walkway between

1686
01:35:14,015 --> 01:35:18,335
Speaker 2: the two of them. You know, walkway fine, but walkways

1687
01:35:18,375 --> 01:35:20,295
Speaker 2: tend to end up with roofs on them, roofs end

1688
01:35:20,375 --> 01:35:23,695
Speaker 2: up with walls attached, and then suddenly it's part of

1689
01:35:23,735 --> 01:35:27,175
Speaker 2: the dwelling. And I think that work requires a building consent.

1690
01:35:28,575 --> 01:35:30,295
Speaker 2: Radio Dave, Good morning to you.

1691
01:35:31,295 --> 01:35:34,255
Speaker 18: Yeah, good morning, Peter, Peter. I've got I've got a

1692
01:35:34,335 --> 01:35:38,215
Speaker 18: lock with that I want to brighten up. And I've

1693
01:35:38,215 --> 01:35:41,535
Speaker 18: got a friend with one that said, the ceilings painted white,

1694
01:35:41,575 --> 01:35:45,495
Speaker 18: and it's so much lighter and brighter. But the painting

1695
01:35:45,655 --> 01:35:49,255
Speaker 18: is quite an ordeal. It's it's not something that's done

1696
01:35:49,255 --> 01:35:52,615
Speaker 18: in a day. There's a best of the sanding, there's

1697
01:35:52,615 --> 01:35:56,735
Speaker 18: got to be ceiling, and the whole thing is ends

1698
01:35:56,815 --> 01:36:01,015
Speaker 18: up to be quite disturbing and expensive. Now I remember

1699
01:36:01,775 --> 01:36:03,815
Speaker 18: old enough to remember there used to be a thing

1700
01:36:03,895 --> 01:36:05,255
Speaker 18: called piecks.

1701
01:36:04,775 --> 01:36:10,455
Speaker 2: Tiles, yep, and I'm old enough to have installed them.

1702
01:36:10,495 --> 01:36:15,255
Speaker 4: Study you go, and of course being a lot with

1703
01:36:15,335 --> 01:36:18,015
Speaker 4: they don't it wouldn't require batons. They could go straight

1704
01:36:18,095 --> 01:36:22,575
Speaker 4: onto the onto the to the to the ceiling, I imagine.

1705
01:36:22,655 --> 01:36:28,495
Speaker 4: But they're not available anymore. And is there an alternative today?

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01:36:30,015 --> 01:36:30,335
Speaker 7: Not?

1707
01:36:30,335 --> 01:36:33,135
Speaker 2: Not in the same way of you know, the the

1708
01:36:33,255 --> 01:36:36,575
Speaker 2: pine x ones, which were like a wood fiber what

1709
01:36:36,695 --> 01:36:39,895
Speaker 2: three hundred by six hundred or something like that, and

1710
01:36:40,335 --> 01:36:43,695
Speaker 2: you Shivers have done them a couple of times anyway,

1711
01:36:44,615 --> 01:36:47,495
Speaker 2: Just just looping back to your first comment around. Okay,

1712
01:36:47,535 --> 01:36:49,575
Speaker 2: so you've got a timber ceiling which has had some

1713
01:36:49,615 --> 01:36:52,175
Speaker 2: polyurethane on it, and it's quite a process to do it,

1714
01:36:52,535 --> 01:36:56,815
Speaker 2: that's true. But having done it myself not too long ago,

1715
01:36:57,895 --> 01:37:00,255
Speaker 2: like you don't need to send all of the polyurethane

1716
01:37:00,335 --> 01:37:02,615
Speaker 2: off right, So effectively, you've got to give it a

1717
01:37:02,615 --> 01:37:06,735
Speaker 2: thorough clean, get de glosset with some sandpaper, so little

1718
01:37:06,775 --> 01:37:10,295
Speaker 2: random orbital sandpaper, whip over it with that, just knocking

1719
01:37:10,335 --> 01:37:14,055
Speaker 2: the gloss back, and that allows to sort of open

1720
01:37:14,135 --> 01:37:16,575
Speaker 2: up the poll to allow a seal it like a

1721
01:37:16,575 --> 01:37:20,255
Speaker 2: smooth surface ceala or something similar. We were talking about

1722
01:37:20,255 --> 01:37:22,455
Speaker 2: it with Bryce from Razine last week on the show.

1723
01:37:22,735 --> 01:37:25,055
Speaker 2: You apply one code of that, you apply a code

1724
01:37:25,095 --> 01:37:27,895
Speaker 2: of pigmented seala, and then you're onto your top coats.

1725
01:37:28,335 --> 01:37:31,735
Speaker 2: So while it's disruptive, I would have thought that it's

1726
01:37:31,855 --> 01:37:35,815
Speaker 2: actually less route work than what you're describing by adding

1727
01:37:35,815 --> 01:37:41,895
Speaker 2: a whole new ceiling lining to the underside. So I'd

1728
01:37:42,015 --> 01:37:45,135
Speaker 2: sort of gird your loins, turn the radio on, paint

1729
01:37:45,175 --> 01:37:45,615
Speaker 2: the ceiling.

1730
01:37:47,055 --> 01:37:50,295
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, if you.

1731
01:37:50,255 --> 01:37:52,655
Speaker 2: Looked at how many hours of work and how disruptive,

1732
01:37:53,175 --> 01:37:56,975
Speaker 2: I reckon, get stuck in with the painting and it'll

1733
01:37:57,015 --> 01:37:59,375
Speaker 2: be done in a quarter of the time than your

1734
01:37:59,415 --> 01:38:02,255
Speaker 2: other solution if you could find a similar product.

1735
01:38:02,295 --> 01:38:06,135
Speaker 18: Okay, okay. It's just that the painters I've spoken to

1736
01:38:06,695 --> 01:38:11,375
Speaker 18: haven't really suggested that they've sort of gone into what

1737
01:38:11,495 --> 01:38:14,095
Speaker 18: an ordeal it's going to be preparing it.

1738
01:38:14,335 --> 01:38:16,575
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not wrong. I'm not saying that there

1739
01:38:16,615 --> 01:38:19,895
Speaker 2: isn't some preparation, but like I did it on a

1740
01:38:19,935 --> 01:38:24,375
Speaker 2: project four or five years ago, and so it was

1741
01:38:24,415 --> 01:38:26,495
Speaker 2: it was a remove ceiling. In this instance, it had

1742
01:38:26,495 --> 01:38:30,015
Speaker 2: been poly you're athaned, Remove's fine, but it just wasn't

1743
01:38:30,055 --> 01:38:32,615
Speaker 2: the look we were after. So I had it with

1744
01:38:32,655 --> 01:38:36,095
Speaker 2: a sander, gave it back in those days. Smooth surface

1745
01:38:36,135 --> 01:38:40,415
Speaker 2: cellar is an updated product now from Razine. And then

1746
01:38:41,255 --> 01:38:43,535
Speaker 2: we painted it and I was actually looking at it

1747
01:38:43,615 --> 01:38:47,255
Speaker 2: yesterday it looks absolutely fine. So I would do the painting.

1748
01:38:47,775 --> 01:38:49,455
Speaker 3: Did you just deal with a roller in a brush?

1749
01:38:49,695 --> 01:38:55,335
Speaker 2: Yep, simple as good luck, take care, Thank you all

1750
01:38:55,335 --> 01:38:58,015
Speaker 2: the best, and paula quickly comment from you.

1751
01:38:58,095 --> 01:39:00,735
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, good question.

1752
01:39:01,055 --> 01:39:03,855
Speaker 15: We're putting a new roof on and we want to

1753
01:39:04,055 --> 01:39:06,295
Speaker 15: check a couple of solitudes.

1754
01:39:06,095 --> 01:39:09,415
Speaker 3: And oh yeah on the wreck, right, do we.

1755
01:39:09,455 --> 01:39:12,175
Speaker 15: Do that at the same time as the roof's going on,

1756
01:39:12,255 --> 01:39:14,295
Speaker 15: because the advice we've been given is put your whole

1757
01:39:14,375 --> 01:39:16,055
Speaker 15: new roof one and then we'll come around and cut

1758
01:39:16,095 --> 01:39:18,615
Speaker 15: it all open and put the solitudes on, which sounds

1759
01:39:18,655 --> 01:39:19,335
Speaker 15: a bit odd to me.

1760
01:39:20,535 --> 01:39:20,775
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1761
01:39:20,815 --> 01:39:27,015
Speaker 2: Interesting, Geef Google's listening, he would give me the answer.

1762
01:39:27,255 --> 01:39:27,655
Speaker 7: Look, I.

1763
01:39:29,415 --> 01:39:31,375
Speaker 2: Think what you want to know is when you do

1764
01:39:31,415 --> 01:39:33,895
Speaker 2: the reroof, you want to know exactly where your solar

1765
01:39:33,935 --> 01:39:37,615
Speaker 2: tubes are going to go. So, for example, if I

1766
01:39:37,695 --> 01:39:39,575
Speaker 2: was doing it, I'd go, Okay, this is where it's

1767
01:39:39,615 --> 01:39:41,415
Speaker 2: going to go. So I'm going to put a peerlin

1768
01:39:41,935 --> 01:39:44,895
Speaker 2: just above and just below where that opening is going

1769
01:39:44,935 --> 01:39:48,775
Speaker 2: to be. And typically when they install the solar tubes

1770
01:39:48,935 --> 01:39:54,295
Speaker 2: or some sort of roof tunnel type device, they'll cut

1771
01:39:54,295 --> 01:39:59,535
Speaker 2: through the iron and then install a flexible flashing. But

1772
01:39:59,575 --> 01:40:02,335
Speaker 2: if there's some additional support around it, that would be better.

1773
01:40:03,975 --> 01:40:06,655
Speaker 2: The other thing is that I guess if if you've

1774
01:40:06,775 --> 01:40:08,815
Speaker 2: you know, if they've done a re roof and they've

1775
01:40:08,935 --> 01:40:11,655
Speaker 2: added they've put new roofing underlay, and then you're going

1776
01:40:11,695 --> 01:40:15,015
Speaker 2: to cut through that. Then you don't have an option

1777
01:40:15,175 --> 01:40:19,935
Speaker 2: perhaps of ceiling the roofing underlay to the penetration, in

1778
01:40:19,975 --> 01:40:23,855
Speaker 2: which case, now you've got whatever's above that roofing underlay.

1779
01:40:23,895 --> 01:40:26,255
Speaker 2: If any moisture is on there, it's going to drip

1780
01:40:26,335 --> 01:40:30,255
Speaker 2: down with the tubers. So in that sense, putting the

1781
01:40:30,295 --> 01:40:35,535
Speaker 2: tube in before the roofs arrive, they won't like you

1782
01:40:35,575 --> 01:40:37,415
Speaker 2: because they got to cut a hole in exactly the

1783
01:40:37,495 --> 01:40:40,375
Speaker 2: right place, But it might give you the opportunity of

1784
01:40:40,415 --> 01:40:43,655
Speaker 2: sealing that roofing underlay, which I think would be an advantage.

1785
01:40:44,255 --> 01:40:47,095
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's my biggest concern, and I just don't see

1786
01:40:47,135 --> 01:40:50,695
Speaker 15: the logic because the Solitude people with the trademark or

1787
01:40:50,695 --> 01:40:52,975
Speaker 15: whatever it does they have are saying no, no, no,

1788
01:40:53,015 --> 01:40:54,535
Speaker 15: we can on after it, and I think there's a

1789
01:40:54,615 --> 01:40:57,575
Speaker 15: ridiculous Yeah.

1790
01:40:57,855 --> 01:41:01,815
Speaker 2: Yeah, thankfully mate Doogle is listening and he's come back

1791
01:41:01,855 --> 01:41:06,735
Speaker 2: to me and said, depending on the roofing generally yes so.

1792
01:41:07,815 --> 01:41:10,375
Speaker 2: And also it also means the scaffolding will still be up,

1793
01:41:10,415 --> 01:41:12,455
Speaker 2: so that's why they come and do it straight after

1794
01:41:12,495 --> 01:41:13,335
Speaker 2: the roof gets laid.

1795
01:41:14,575 --> 01:41:18,295
Speaker 15: Okay, thet all right, but they're two different companies right.

1796
01:41:18,335 --> 01:41:21,615
Speaker 2: Probably, yes, it will be yeap, yes it is okay,

1797
01:41:21,695 --> 01:41:24,815
Speaker 2: good luck and hey, look I put one in in

1798
01:41:24,895 --> 01:41:28,335
Speaker 2: our oh gee, when I did my roof twenty odd

1799
01:41:28,375 --> 01:41:32,175
Speaker 2: years ago into a space where it's a walk and

1800
01:41:32,255 --> 01:41:36,495
Speaker 2: wardrobe that has no exterior windows, and it's been great,

1801
01:41:36,535 --> 01:41:38,935
Speaker 2: so I don't think you'll regret it. Oh you're a

1802
01:41:39,255 --> 01:41:43,175
Speaker 2: thank you, lovely talking take care all the best right

1803
01:41:43,695 --> 01:41:46,575
Speaker 2: that brings the building to a conclusion. It's been fantastic

1804
01:41:46,615 --> 01:41:50,415
Speaker 2: And I was going to say, please excuse, but I

1805
01:41:50,455 --> 01:41:54,015
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm saying that. I love the fact

1806
01:41:54,055 --> 01:41:57,735
Speaker 2: that that people that I know, you know are able

1807
01:41:57,775 --> 01:42:00,215
Speaker 2: to text me directly with some answers as well, So

1808
01:42:01,135 --> 01:42:03,975
Speaker 2: thank you for doing that and providing some advice or

1809
01:42:04,015 --> 01:42:07,415
Speaker 2: some recommendations for contacts around the country. So we've been

1810
01:42:07,455 --> 01:42:09,895
Speaker 2: able to find a Elux installer in christ Church. We've

1811
01:42:09,895 --> 01:42:11,855
Speaker 2: had a bit of a gas about roofing products here

1812
01:42:11,855 --> 01:42:15,935
Speaker 2: in Auckland. Happy to help. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1813
01:42:15,975 --> 01:42:18,415
Speaker 2: eighty is the number, not for building anymore. We're into

1814
01:42:18,455 --> 01:42:22,255
Speaker 2: the garden. A rid climb past is on standby and

1815
01:42:22,295 --> 01:42:24,735
Speaker 2: we will be talking with him directly after the break.

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01:42:27,975 --> 01:42:30,655
Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks. Some is the

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01:42:30,695 --> 01:42:33,255
Speaker 1: time to get it sorted. Call oh eight hundred eighty

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