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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duper Cllen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News Talks EV.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show coming up today, the Infrastructure Commission

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Speaker 4: on the mass of thirty year plan out today, the

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Speaker 4: Department of Internal Affairs on that illegal gambling at Polymarket

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Speaker 4: and Neon has lost the White Lotus in succession, and

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch of stuff in that HBO deal. We'll

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Speaker 4: have a chat to the CEO, Sophie Maloney after six.

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Speaker 4: Heather duper c l It's some fascinating data about how

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Speaker 4: we've changed in the last sixty years. Look at the

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Speaker 4: birth data from Stats today, and especially the age at

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Speaker 4: which mums are having babies. So last year fourteen percent

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Speaker 4: of births were to mums younger than twenty five fourteen percent.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety five, which is one generation ago, it

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Speaker 4: was double that, it was twenty eight percent of births

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Speaker 4: to mums under twenty five, and in nineteen sixty, which

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Speaker 4: is two generations ago, it was forty six percent of births,

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Speaker 4: nearly half of the births to mum's under twenty five.

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Speaker 4: There are now more babies born to mums older than

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Speaker 4: forty than there are to mums younger than twenty five,

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Speaker 4: and I'm one of those mums. I was counted in

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Speaker 4: late last year's data. Last January, I was forty. I

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Speaker 4: had a baby. Now, in retrospect, I reckon, if I

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Speaker 4: could do my life again, it would probably have been

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Speaker 4: better to have my kids about a decade younger. Your

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Speaker 4: knees at forty are not what your knees were at thirty.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to run around after them. They want

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Speaker 4: You feel more tired at forty, though, you also realize

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Speaker 4: the value of time. If I have my kids at

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Speaker 4: forty and they have their kids at forty, I'm going

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Speaker 4: to start being a grandmother around the age of eighty,

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Speaker 4: which means I'm not going to have that long left right,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to see my grandkids

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Speaker 4: get married and have their kids, which is one of

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Speaker 4: the joys of life. I would imagine leaving it late

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Speaker 4: means you miss out on a whole bunch of stuff

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Speaker 4: there are upsides to leaving it a bit later. You're

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Speaker 4: a better person at forty than you are at thirty.

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Speaker 4: You're more in control of your emotions, which is a

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Speaker 4: really big thing to teach your kids. You become a

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Speaker 4: better parent, I feel like, more importantly, and I reckon

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Speaker 4: this is why so many mums are leaving it later.

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Speaker 4: You're more financially secure by your late thirties. You've got

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Speaker 4: you have an established career. Your partner's income is helpful.

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Speaker 4: It helps to pay the bills, but you're not dependent

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Speaker 4: on her husband's And I think that's the reason that

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Speaker 4: the age of mums will not ever go back down again,

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Speaker 4: because mums are more financially independent than they were two

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Speaker 4: generations ago, which means that they have choices, and the

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Speaker 4: choice that they are making is the one you're seeing

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Speaker 4: in the data. The choices to leave the kids are

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Speaker 2: Heather due to see Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Little to Paul speronly about this after five. He's fascinating,

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Speaker 4: He'll have something interesting to say about it. Nine two

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Speaker 4: nine two is the text number. There is renewed pressure

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Speaker 4: on the government now to get on with banning the

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Speaker 4: social media for under sixteens. Now, there's an outfit called

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Speaker 4: Triple P Positive Parenting which wants New Zealand to follow

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Speaker 4: Australia's lead. It's bringing together MPs, the Children's Commissioner, educators

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Speaker 4: experts in Wellington to look at how family can be

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Speaker 4: supported through any change. Jackie reacts Triple p's New Zealand

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Speaker 4: country leading with us. Hi Jackie, Hi, Leah, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm well, thank you. Do you consider what's happened in

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Speaker 4: Australia to be a success?

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Speaker 5: Ah, that's a really good question. I suspect it's probably

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Speaker 5: too early to say whether it's success success. We're still

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Speaker 5: you know, watching to see what the outcomes are. But

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Speaker 5: what I can say is the parents that have used

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Speaker 5: the Triple P Children's Screens program, because we do collect data,

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Speaker 5: are consistently reporting improvements in you know, the healthy screen

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Speaker 5: they've got to be wins.

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Speaker 4: Why would you not like, if you're seeing that data

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Speaker 4: come through, why would you not say it's been a success.

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Speaker 5: I think we haven't got enough metadata to sort of

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Speaker 5: say the idea of the ban is ya know. What

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Speaker 5: I would say is the ban is one thing. What

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Speaker 5: Australia did do alongside the band was implement some parenting support.

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Speaker 5: So I'm reporting the data from the parent export, which

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Speaker 5: is great because I think that's what needs to happen

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Speaker 5: if there is, I say, a ban in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: We need a few things. We need a nice sort

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Speaker 5: of solution that's got perhaps more than just a silver

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Speaker 5: bullet of a ban, you know, because actually I just

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Speaker 5: heard your piece about.

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Speaker 6: Being a mum.

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Speaker 5: You're the one day to day that actually has to

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Speaker 5: deal with the You're not getting it.

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Speaker 7: You can't have it.

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Speaker 5: You know that arguments we need to support parents. The

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Speaker 5: ban in itself isn't going to do that necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what is the support that you guys are

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Speaker 4: offering parents in Australia.

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Speaker 5: So what Australia did, and I think this really important

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Speaker 5: thing is they got in early, so they had some

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Speaker 5: really good foundational suite of Triple P online programs available

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Speaker 5: free to parents over the last three years in a

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Speaker 5: program called the Parenting Education Support Program. So there was

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Speaker 5: really good foundation there to build on some more skills

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Speaker 5: for the parents. It's really specific to children in screens.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so that's what they made available.

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Speaker 9: What we need to do that?

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Speaker 4: What is okay? What can I Jackie, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be so blunt with you right now? What the hell

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Speaker 4: is wrong with parents nowaday that we need support to

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Speaker 4: be able to tell our children, no, you're putting that

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Speaker 4: screen down, that's enough screen time. Well do you know

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Speaker 4: what some people can?

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Speaker 5: And then there's a whole lot of people that just

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Speaker 5: need to sort of reflect and be able to go, okay,

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Speaker 5: exactly what you're saying, what are the boundaries for our family?

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Speaker 5: And I think reflecting on what you were just saying

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Speaker 5: about some older parents, you know that. You know, I

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Speaker 4: So this is a yeah, but it's not rocket Jackie.

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Speaker 4: It's not rocket science. Like all it is is we

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Speaker 4: have rules about kids eating sugar, right, you say, like, no,

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Speaker 4: rest of the day. But why can we not transfer, Like,

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Speaker 4: if we can have boundaries on something like that, how

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Speaker 4: hard is it to simply transfer the boundary to a

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Speaker 4: I don't understand, Jackie, I'm asking you a philosophical question,

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Speaker 4: absolutely right. I don't understand why parents are such pushovers

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's part of it is all this

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Speaker 5: conflicting information is that you know you're right when need

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Speaker 5: clear boundaries. Parents need to information about how much time

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Speaker 5: developmental ages, and then they need to be informed about

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Speaker 5: that and to be able to put those have those conversations,

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Speaker 5: people find that extremely hard. Will actually be like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll follow through. But I think there are conflicting messages

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Speaker 5: you know, if I perhaps if I seen my child cry,

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Speaker 5: I might have made a huge mistake. Well, actually no,

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Speaker 5: kids do need to learn to regulate them emotion. They

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Speaker 5: might be upset you took it, but actually they'll learn

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Speaker 5: okay and Mum says no exactly she means.

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Speaker 4: No, and then they're lovely after that because they know

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Speaker 4: the rules. Jackie, it's wonderful to talk to you. Thank

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Speaker 4: you appreciate it. Jackie Reeck, New Zealand country lead for

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Speaker 4: Triple P Positive Parenting. Okay, I'm sure I'm going to

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Speaker 4: get text on that, so come on send them in now. Dogs,

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Speaker 4: you know how I feel about the dogs. A person

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Speaker 4: has been kids, so I'm giving you an update.

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Speaker 4: A person has been killed by dogs in Caihu, which

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Speaker 4: pitbull like dogs. According to one of the neighbors. Here's

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Speaker 4: Zeb Heather, Good afternoon. I don't fancy your chances trying

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Speaker 4: to say no to your teenager when you're going through

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Speaker 4: that special time in life. Goodlie, good luck. What special time?

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Speaker 4: The menopause? Oh okay, because that's what often happens, is

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Speaker 4: that the women, the women, their menopause coincides with the

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Speaker 6: Right, we're learning more about it because even though it's

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Speaker 6: called menopause, which is insane, I think finally men are

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Speaker 6: afflict means, so people have ignored it for generations.

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Speaker 4: Right, we have something to the text. We have something

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Speaker 4: called HRT patches nowadays, which is amazing. So don't worry

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Speaker 4: Darcy water Grave, sports talk host is with us. Hello,

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Speaker 4: das Kid get another medal tonight thanks to Zoe.

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Speaker 11: Well, we'd like to think. So it's like one in

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Speaker 11: the morning, so she'd be a long, long journey in

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Speaker 11: front of the TV. I addicted to the Olympics over

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Speaker 11: the weekend, couldn't help myself watch way too much of it.

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Speaker 11: But Zoe understand what.

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Speaker 6: It means to win and how to win.

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Speaker 11: But this is extraordinarily difficult when you're dealing with various

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Speaker 11: conditions and you've got the world chasing you down, and

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Speaker 3: But what she put down qualifying was just superb.

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Speaker 11: But it looked so easy to always say about great

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Speaker 11: They've got a thrash od man and they've got hope.

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Speaker 11: tonight who's celebrating the induction into the New Zealand Sports

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 13: Contact Energy is net profit up twenty four percent. Mike

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Speaker 2: Name you trumped to get the answers you need.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicyl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 4: Heather is a parent. As a teacher of five year olds,

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Speaker 4: that's not a thing. They adapt really quickly to that.

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Speaker 4: It's actually not as hard as you think it's going

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Speaker 4: What's the evidence?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 4: In what world does that not the case? Hit me

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Speaker 4: with it, Blair, I'm happy to hear it.

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Speaker 4: The isis brides, we need to talk about this. By

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Speaker 4: We're really bad at spending money and probably nothing's going

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home it's Heather duplicyl and

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

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Speaker 2: You know what to dare? Sing my head, Sing my head.

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Speaker 4: Take a chairs, Take a chair. They're going the nineteen

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Speaker 4: fifties and nineteen sixties. Where's a country spent billions building

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Speaker 4: How about that here that the forties are not necessarily

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Speaker 4: It's twenty four away from five.

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on youth talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be drive for m Keewei's player. Matt Utaires in

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Speaker 4: The local sheriff has cleared Nancy Guthrie's family as possible

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Speaker 4: There and finally some good views from NASA. Fifteen thousand

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 4: Murray Old's Ossie corresponds with US. Now, Homuz, good app NU,

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Speaker 4: So the situation of the Isis Brides is they try

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Speaker 15: Not so long ago, the government's saying they deserve to

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Speaker 15: endeavoring to get these women and kill and children out.

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Speaker 15: The families of the women are saying this afternoon. Look,

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Speaker 15: The opposition, of course, howling about this, saying there's no

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Speaker 4: Listen is what is the plan when they come back,

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Speaker 15: Well, don't forget, there's already a cohort that's come home

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Speaker 15: They have been widowed in that dreadful conflict, in that fighting,

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Speaker 15: and as I say, eleven women, thirty four children, twenty

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Speaker 4: All right, how's man going to be.

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Speaker 15: Interesting watching it play out politically? Are going to assure you, mate,

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Speaker 15: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: What this is going to be big potentially how's Matt.

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Speaker 15: Who's I doing serious? After emergency surgery? And police, as

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Speaker 15: that clip said, they're trying to work out why on

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Speaker 15: earth he was targeted. He was on as way to

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Speaker 15: work this morning, coming down from the family home at

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Speaker 15: Green Acres South where Sydney Lovely Street, and there's a

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Speaker 15: guy or two men at the bottom of the driveway

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Speaker 15: in an SUV vehicle. One is a government bang bang, bang,

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Speaker 15: Not sure the exact number of shots that who Tie

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Speaker 15: has been hit. Then the Guvernment's back in the car

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Speaker 15: and gone, and the car has been talked only a

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Speaker 15: couple of streets away. Minutes later, as police and ambulance

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Speaker 15: officers arrived, Who Ties on the front lawn in a

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Speaker 15: lot of pain. He's able to have a quick conversation

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Speaker 15: with police before the paramedics go to work. He was

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Speaker 15: stabilized there and whisted off to hospital for their emergency

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Speaker 15: surgery and pleases ain't listen. There's no there's no criminal

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Speaker 15: history they that they know of with Utaie. He's got

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Speaker 15: a few minor traffic offenses, you know, speeding and whatnot.

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Speaker 15: But until they can have an extensive interview with him,

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure if it's going to happen this afternoon

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Speaker 15: after surgery, maybe tomorrow or the day after. They're looking

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Speaker 15: for links though with others who may have criminal ties,

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Speaker 15: not in specifically, perhaps other family members, and don't forget

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Speaker 15: his wife and children inside the family home when he

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Speaker 15: was ambush. So it's pretty down serious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very much. Sounds like it is the world shop

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Speaker 4: that you guys are doing okay at the Winter Olympics apparently.

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Speaker 15: I mean, the Canadians are going, oh my god, what's

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Speaker 15: going on? Finland I think they go Lord of Australia,

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Speaker 15: and the Chinese well, I'm not sure what they're saying,

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Speaker 15: but they're all bloody healthy. And the Aussies because none

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Speaker 15: of the aforementioned Canadians, Fens or Chinese athletes have done boo.

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Speaker 15: But Australia's got three gold, one silver, one bronze medal

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Speaker 15: and more to come. Jakara Anthony, for example, backed up

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Speaker 15: the gold medal from four years ago with another one

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Speaker 15: here in Courtina. There's a wonderful photograph. You may have

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Speaker 15: seen it, Heather. The five Australian medallists are posing in

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Speaker 15: the big Olympic rings that have been erected in the

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Speaker 15: Olympic City and Australians eleventh for the medal table. But

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Speaker 15: perhaps when you look at the way winter sports are

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Speaker 15: funded now, we've got excellent coaching, They've been picked from

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Speaker 15: all around world and you know, the best Australian athletes

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Speaker 15: are out there on the international circuit and no surprise,

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Speaker 15: they keep doing very very well. And at that level

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Speaker 15: it's a it's a small step. It's a gimmigant step,

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Speaker 15: but nonetheless a relatively small step from that World Cup

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Speaker 15: level to get up and stand on an Olympic podium.

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Speaker 15: And they're doing that in spades. And the whole coutch

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Speaker 15: is going your beauty ossis oi bloody oidz.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much, Murri Old's Australia Correspondents seventeen away from

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Speaker 4: five ever do for see hope. Yes. So I've mentioned

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Speaker 4: this before. This is just real. The Isis brides and

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Speaker 4: the kids who are in the in the Syrian camps.

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Speaker 4: I've mentioned it on the show before, but it bears repeating.

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Speaker 4: I was at a conference last year and the keynote

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Speaker 4: speaker there was a chap who had worked in security

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Speaker 4: and I'm not going to say but he like, really

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Speaker 4: really as far up security as you could go in

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Speaker 4: terms of the building that you're in in the world.

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Speaker 4: And what he said is for to his mind, the

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Speaker 4: biggest problem that we face in the Western world in

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Speaker 4: the next few decades is actually what's going on in

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Speaker 4: the Syrian camps at the moment, because he said, hell,

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Speaker 4: look at what's going The Australian example is a perfect example.

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Speaker 4: Whole bunch of people in there and kids without dads

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Speaker 4: now because the dads have been killed, women who are widows,

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Speaker 4: kids who are are fatherless, and they are being injected

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Speaker 4: with all of these ideologies. But their dual nationalities, aren't

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Speaker 4: they so they can go home to somewhere, and they're

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Speaker 4: going to go home to somewhere. They're going to take

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Speaker 4: those ideas back home to somewhere. So whether it be

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Speaker 4: France or Australia or whatever, anyway, that is what's going on. Now,

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Speaker 4: you got another thirty four going back to Australia. I'll

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Speaker 4: just point out what the camp's director. This is the

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Speaker 4: camp is called roj This is what the camp's director

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Speaker 4: has said. My message is not only to Australia, but

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Speaker 4: to all countries. Take your citizens, take these children and women.

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Speaker 4: And she added that children were growing up surrounded by

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Speaker 4: dangerous ideas and ideologies in the camp sixteen Away.

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Speaker 1: From five Politics with centric credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payments.

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Speaker 4: Certainty Infrastructure Commission is with us after five o'clock on

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Speaker 4: the Big thirty year Planets thirteen away from five and

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Speaker 4: Barri Sooper, Senior Political Correspondence with US high bar. One

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Speaker 4: of the ideas pitched as a nine dollar toll for

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Speaker 4: the Auckland Harbor Bridge. That's not going to happen. This

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Speaker 4: a nonsense.

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Speaker 3: It seems a hell of a lot of money. You

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Speaker 3: consider that a working week somebody coming back and forth

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Speaker 3: to the city from the north Shore, it'd be almost

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Speaker 3: one hundred bucks a week. It's a hell of a

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Speaker 3: lot of.

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Speaker 4: What do you do if you're that commuter? You just

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Speaker 4: decided to go on the Ring Road, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Well, you're doing But then I guess you have to

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Speaker 3: weigh that up about how much petrol that's going to

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Speaker 3: cost you to go on the Ring Road.

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Speaker 4: It's probably not nine dollars. Well, then you're sitting there,

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Speaker 4: so we just clog one road up.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. But it's it's really interesting the you

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Speaker 3: know they're looking at tolling the existing bridge for as

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Speaker 3: well as the new one White to Marter Bridge, and

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Speaker 3: if they do both.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the old bridge.

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Speaker 3: Was built in nineteen fifty nine I think, and they

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Speaker 3: had tolls there for years on that. The tolls started

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Speaker 3: out at two dollars seventy a day. But that's the

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Speaker 3: twenty five cents. It amounts to two dollars seventy.

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Speaker 4: That's invation adjusted, that's inflation adjusted.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know where they get the nine dollars from,

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Speaker 3: but you know they're that pondering nine dollars. It's a

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Speaker 3: hell of a lot of money. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: they're going to do it. But when they told the

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Speaker 3: bridge early on, at the beginning of it, they paid

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Speaker 3: for it really no time at all. By less than

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Speaker 3: ten years, the bridge had been paid for and they

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Speaker 3: scrapped the tolls on the bridge. Now bringing them back,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to toll roads. I don't think

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Speaker 3: anybody would deny that, because if we want infrastructure that

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Speaker 3: keeps up to date, you've got to spend money on it.

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Speaker 3: And where does the money come from. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: governments and dire straits when it comes to its box

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Speaker 3: at the moment.

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Speaker 4: So well, they can cut some fat out of the

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Speaker 4: books and then just to keep on saying exactly the

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Speaker 4: same thing over and over again. Now, what is the

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister said about the idea from Winston of running

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Speaker 4: a referendum on the Marty seats.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because faced questions in Parliament today. Do

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Speaker 3: you know the first time the abolition of Maori seats

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Speaker 3: were considered? How long ago do you think they were?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, eighteen seventy two because they were brought

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Speaker 3: in for five years initially and until maury Land claims

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Speaker 3: were settled and then they would convert to a general

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Speaker 3: electorate seats, So you know, it's a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: This is a battle that's been going on for many years.

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Speaker 3: So Winston's hardly getting ahead of himself by suggesting or

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Speaker 3: campaigning on a referendum to get rid of them. But

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Speaker 3: in Parliament this afternoon it'd got a cool reception of us,

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Speaker 3: say from the Prime Minister when Chris Lacksen was asked

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Speaker 3: for his view about them from the Malori Party's co

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Speaker 3: leader Debi Nahiwa Packer.

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Speaker 16: Here she is, does the Prime Minister support the continued

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Speaker 16: existence of the Mali electrits?

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Speaker 17: Well, that is something that we haven't given consideration to.

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Speaker 16: Does he agree that Marii electriz represent a constitutional recognition

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Speaker 16: of Tetti or Whitney.

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Speaker 17: Well, I own saying they've been a feature of the

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Speaker 17: New Zealand's political system for some time.

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Speaker 18: But the important thing is.

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Speaker 17: They have representation with the biggest Maori contingent and cabinet

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Speaker 17: of any government in recent times.

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Speaker 2: If the mari.

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Speaker 19: Seats were worth the feeling, why is it that the

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Speaker 19: people who preside in the Mara seats have spent less

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Speaker 19: time in Parliament than somebody who has been overseas for

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Speaker 19: two undred and six days, and yet spend more time

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Speaker 19: in Parliament than the Murray Party seats all together.

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Speaker 17: Well, that is an important question. I think voters on

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Speaker 17: the Marii electorates have been poorly represented in this parliament.

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Speaker 3: Not surprisingly, Naruba Paka did object to these statistics that

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Speaker 3: Winston came out what he was talking about his own.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I travel abroad, but it is true that

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Speaker 3: the Murray Party MPs aren't regular attendees at Parliament and

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Speaker 3: whether they've represented their electorates is I guess the debate

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Speaker 3: for those who vote in them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the cost of living has come up.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yes today, We've seen the polls, of course yesterday

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Speaker 3: and in recent weeks. The cost of living in the

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Speaker 3: economy remain the most the greatest concern for people was

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Speaker 3: an issue taken up by Labour's Barbarie Edan Edmunds this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: but she failed to score a hit on her target.

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Speaker 3: Nikola Willis.

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Speaker 20: The era of crushing price increases in the economy occurred

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Speaker 20: during the three years under the last government, where inflation

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Speaker 20: remained out of target, peaking at seven point three percent.

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Speaker 20: That era is now over those parties who say the

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Speaker 20: solution to every problem is to drive up government spending

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Speaker 20: and borrow risk reawakening the inflation beast.

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Speaker 21: Has she been advised, with food prices soaring, whether the

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Speaker 21: Prime Minister can still do his weekly shop for sixty dollars.

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Speaker 20: Mister speaker. This follows a trend of recent final supplementary

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Speaker 20: questions from the opposing member in which she gets personal

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Speaker 20: and nasty and I'm not going to sink to that, meyboy.

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Speaker 3: So that didn't go down well.

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Speaker 4: At all, Barry, thank you very much, appreciate it. Barry Sofa,

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Speaker 4: Senior political correspondent. Eight away from five. People are already

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Speaker 4: angry about nine dollar toll. It's not even happening and

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Speaker 4: people are angry. No effing way am I accepting tolls

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Speaker 4: on the bridge just because I live on the north Shore.

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Speaker 4: Why do north Shore residents have to pay tolls to

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Speaker 4: get to the rest of Auckland but the rest of

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Speaker 4: Auckland get away scot free. If you're going to toll

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Speaker 4: toll everyone, don't just toll a bridge because it happens

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Speaker 4: to be over a harbor and easy to do. No way, Matthew,

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Speaker 4: thank you. At our plus six, we're going to have

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Speaker 4: a chat to Justin ty Umbers, who's of the Road

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Speaker 4: Carriers Association, because my first inclination on the nine dollar

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Speaker 4: toll is to go whatever, and I'd like to know

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Speaker 4: if that's his first inclination as well, his first reaction. Frankly,

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Speaker 4: my first reaction to much of what's in the Infrastructure

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Speaker 4: Commissions report is whatever, because how many times have we

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Speaker 4: been told how much we're in deficit with infrastructure and

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Speaker 4: yet nothing changes. So my prediction is nothing changes. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: we've have a chat to them after five. Also, apparently

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Speaker 4: there is an app called the polymarket app and call

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Speaker 4: she two separate apps, websites whatever for gambling, and apparently

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Speaker 4: they're illegal, and the Department of Internal Affairs wants you

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Speaker 4: to know that they are illegal so they can come

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Speaker 4: on and talk about how illegal they are. But I

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Speaker 4: don't know that they are actually going to get rid

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Speaker 4: of them, which means that if you think about that,

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Speaker 4: all the Department of Internal Affairs is doing is giving

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Speaker 4: these illegal apps publicity. But hey, you know who am

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Speaker 4: I to. We'll chat. It's fascinating, by the way, what

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Speaker 4: you can bet on anything. We'll chat about this with

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Speaker 4: the DIA in just a minute. They'll be with us

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Speaker 4: in twenty minutes. Now, you know that I love drawing

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Speaker 4: to your attention the latest dumb thing or maybe legit

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Speaker 4: thing that the young people are encouraging each other to

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Speaker 4: do on social media. I've got another one for you

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Speaker 4: from that file. The absolute latest is called dark showering.

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Speaker 4: So this is the young people's hack to try to

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Speaker 4: get to sleep. What they do before they go to sleep,

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Speaker 4: they reckon. They're telling each other, this is what you

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Speaker 4: have to do, is before you go to sleep. If

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Speaker 4: you're have in trouble, go into your bathroom and turn

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Speaker 4: off the light immediately. I go ooh, health and safety risk,

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Speaker 4: health and safety risk falling on the tiles. But anyway, whatever,

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Speaker 4: they turn off the light and then they get in

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Speaker 4: the shower and they have a dark shower, they say,

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Speaker 4: because what happens is the water feels because it's dark,

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Speaker 4: so you're not using your you're looking senses, you're seeing sense,

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Speaker 4: You're just using your hearing sense and your feeling sense,

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Speaker 4: and so in the dimness, the water feels louder, and

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Speaker 4: the day's visual clutter fades, and then sleep should come

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Speaker 4: more easily. Now you'd like me to tell you the

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Speaker 4: science doesn't back this up. But maybe the science does

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Speaker 4: actually back this up, because by turning off the light,

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Speaker 4: you do increase you melatonin, and then of course you

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Speaker 4: fall asleep more easily if your body is warm rather

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Speaker 4: than cold. So there may be something to it. But

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Speaker 4: you may be able to replicate that by getting under

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Speaker 4: the blanket in the dark, thereby not using all that

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Speaker 4: water and wasting your money. It also does beg the

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Speaker 4: question what just happened to the old thing that we

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Speaker 4: all used to do, which is to get into bed

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Speaker 4: and read a book. That also, but anyway, whatever dark

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Speaker 4: showering give it a hern if you feel inclined. Next up,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about this thirty year plan.

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Speaker 12: You flu.

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Speaker 2: Lester truth flue.

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Speaker 5: Iven in you.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find the FATA and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: the power of satellite Mobile News Talks evy afternoon.

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Speaker 4: The Infrastructure Commissions just dropped its thirty year plan and

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Speaker 4: it's a sobering reality check. It says we need to

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Speaker 4: cut spending on roads, we need to double spending on hospitals,

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Speaker 4: Energy needs a big spending boost, and Auckland's Harbor Bridge

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Speaker 4: may need a nine dollar toll. Jeff Cooper is the

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Speaker 4: CEO of the Infrastructure Commission with us Hi, Jeff kyoto Hea,

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Speaker 4: how you doing well? Thank you mate? Explain the thinking

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Speaker 4: behind a nine dollar toll?

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Speaker 8: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 22: Look, we've started really by looking at all of the

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Speaker 22: different infrastructure services New Zealand's going to need over a

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Speaker 22: thirty year period. You know, so often we look at

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Speaker 22: one sector at a time, we come up with lists

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Speaker 22: of things that we realize we can't afford, and we

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Speaker 22: have to go back to the drawing board. This is

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Speaker 22: an effort at looking across all of these sectors and

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Speaker 22: putting forward a fundable, coordinated portfolio of investments. And out

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Speaker 22: the back of that clearly is that you know, we

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Speaker 22: need to stage and phase projects a little bit more

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Speaker 22: to make sure that we need get a good balance

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Speaker 22: between services. So if we want to go outside of

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Speaker 22: that budget, what it ultimately means is that we're going

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Speaker 22: to need to derive more revenue from the asset base.

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Speaker 22: And in roading that can look like tolls, it can

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Speaker 22: look like congestion charging and other such things. And all sectors,

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Speaker 22: not just land transport, are grappling with these things because

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Speaker 22: the financials are tight, and I think New Zealanders.

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Speaker 4: Know that, do you have any preference as to where

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Speaker 4: we build our healthcare?

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Speaker 18: Well, the plan sort of goes through.

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Speaker 22: I mean, we start by looking at how our demographics

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Speaker 22: are changing, and under any plausible scenario, we look at

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Speaker 22: you know, New Zealand is going to need more investment

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Speaker 22: in health services. We've known this for a while. But

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Speaker 22: if thing, we're aging faster than we thought we were

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Speaker 22: going to. So what we've done in the plan is

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Speaker 22: look at how our aging differs by region and then

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Speaker 22: establish you know, where services need to follow those population projections.

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Speaker 4: So it's it probably Auckland, yeah, I.

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Speaker 22: Mean certainly the areas of large population growth. Yes, But

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Speaker 22: actually when you look at it is this is something

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Speaker 22: that you know, of all the services that we look at,

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Speaker 22: this is one for all of New Zealand actually broad

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Speaker 22: based aging going on.

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Speaker 4: Are there parts of the country though, where we are

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Speaker 4: seeing population declines to the extent that we should actually

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Speaker 4: stop investing money and infrastructure.

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Speaker 22: Certainly, when you look at the periphery of many of

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Speaker 22: the networked infrastructure we have, it's clear that at the

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Speaker 22: at the ends of the of the network the financials

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Speaker 22: are most difficult. Now, I don't think for a second

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Speaker 22: that means that we should stop providing services to those areas,

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Speaker 22: but what the plan does say is that the network

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Speaker 22: as a whole needs to be able to fund it. Right,

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Speaker 22: that you can do cross subsidies, that's fine, But certainly

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Speaker 22: when we're looking at you know, resilience issues, the balance

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Speaker 22: between what is making money on the network and what

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Speaker 22: probably needs money tipped into it is getting harder, and

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Speaker 22: you know, like local governments at the leading edge of that,

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Speaker 22: they see that day to day it's getting harder.

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Speaker 4: Why is it that we spend more money on infrastructure

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Speaker 4: as a proportion of GDP than anywhere in the developed world,

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Speaker 4: but we still have this massive deficit in infrastructure I think, I.

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Speaker 22: Mean, that's it's a very good question on the first one,

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Speaker 22: and in part the answer to this is the fact

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Speaker 22: that we are on a very narrow band of land

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Speaker 22: the bottom of the South Pacific. We're a country of

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Speaker 22: five and a half million people. We're roughly the same

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Speaker 22: size as great as Sydney, but we are trying to

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Speaker 22: build out infrastructure networks on a parcel of land that

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Speaker 22: is twenty one times larger. Right, So the geology, the

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Speaker 22: geography is very difficult, and we have a dispersed population.

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Speaker 22: That means more pipes, more roads, more transmission lines and

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Speaker 22: so on, and that costs if you're going to do that,

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Speaker 22: you know, so there are some things that are baked in.

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Speaker 22: But of course, you know, on the other side of things,

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Speaker 22: clearly we need to try and do this in a

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Speaker 22: way that is more cost efficient than what has been

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Speaker 22: in the past, because you know, if we need more hospitals,

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Speaker 22: you know, we can't afford to do them at two

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Speaker 22: to three billion dollars per facility. We can't afford roads

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Speaker 22: that are costing four hundred million dollars per kilometers. So

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Speaker 22: you know, this is why the plan talks to the

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Speaker 22: urgency of getting resource management right and identifying opportunities to

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Speaker 22: bring down those costs right.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Listen, thanks for talking to us about I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Cooper, Infrastructure Commission CEO. It's coming up to have

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Speaker 4: past five Hea.

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Speaker 2: The duplessy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: That's some fascinating new stats about the age of mums.

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Speaker 4: Last year, fourteen percent of birth were to mums younger

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Speaker 4: than twenty five. In nineteen ninety five, which is a

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Speaker 4: generation ago, it was twenty eight percent of births to

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Speaker 4: mums under twenty five, and in nineteen sixty five, two

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Speaker 4: generations ago, it was nearly half of births. Paul Spoonley

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Speaker 4: is a sociologist at Massi University and with us.

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Speaker 2: HI Paul gid Eather.

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Speaker 4: I mean, is this simply we're just leaving things later

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Speaker 4: in life because we want to establish our careers by

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Speaker 4: our houses, get some money in the bank.

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Speaker 23: Absolutely. So the age of mother at first birth is

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Speaker 23: now thirty one and timing and a fun fact for

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Speaker 23: you related to the figures you've just given, Heather, is

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Speaker 23: that there are many more children born to women aged

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Speaker 23: over forty in New Zealand compared to women age twenty

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Speaker 23: and younger in New Zealand. Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 4: I think that is fascinating. Is that a bad thing?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 23: No, All of transitions are taking longer. So one of

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Speaker 23: the interesting things I'm looking at at the moment is

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Speaker 23: the number of children, adult children in their mid to

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Speaker 23: late twenties who are still living in the family home.

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Speaker 23: So we're just seeing some of those transitions when you

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Speaker 23: might move out of the family home, when you might

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Speaker 23: decide to have children, the jobs that you get, all

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Speaker 23: of those things are taking longer and occurring later.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that is a bad thing, Paul, that

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Speaker 4: parents stall in their sixties have their twenty plus kids

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Speaker 4: in their house.

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Speaker 23: No, No, well, I mean it's an increasing fact and

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Speaker 23: what we're beginning to see as people are changing their

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Speaker 23: behavior as a results of that. So we're seeing many

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Speaker 23: more multigenerational households, so increasing number of households that have

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Speaker 23: got three generations, and we're just starting to see the

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Speaker 23: first households with four generations. Because what we need to

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Speaker 23: remember hither is not only are we having children later,

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Speaker 23: but we're living much longer. So over the next couple

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Speaker 23: of decades, the average life expectant to see in New

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Speaker 23: Zealand will be ninety one.

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Speaker 4: Wow. That's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question, though, so, if you've

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Speaker 4: got these multigenerational households, is this just a result of

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Speaker 4: us having increased immigration so you've got you've got people

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Speaker 4: from countries like India, where for example, that is absolutely

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Speaker 4: fine and it's normal. Or is this actually us, like

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Speaker 4: Native New Zealand as people who've been here for a

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Speaker 4: few generations also starting to do this.

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Speaker 2: No, it has, it has.

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Speaker 23: There are definitely some cultural practices, but no, it has.

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Speaker 23: We're changing and of course the there are reasons here

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Speaker 23: and one of them is economic and so the cost

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Speaker 23: of housing. So how can you how can you utilize

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Speaker 23: your housing better? So no, No, I think it's a

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Speaker 23: changing demographic combined with changing behaviors.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant Paul, Thanks very much, always enjoy talking to you.

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Speaker 4: Professor Paul Spoonley, Massy University Sociologist, fourteen past five.

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Speaker 2: Heither do for c Ellen?

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Speaker 4: I love that I am desperate, desperate to get my

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Speaker 4: mum to move in with us, constantly try. I've got

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Speaker 4: she gets the best room in the house with an

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Speaker 4: en suite. It's still working on it, but I reckon this.

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Speaker 4: Can I just say that, I think this thing where

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Speaker 4: we all move into separate houses like grow up, get married,

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Speaker 4: have a family, live in your own nuclear that's weird

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Speaker 4: and actually no one else does it apart from us

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Speaker 4: like us. When I say us, I mean sort of

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Speaker 4: English speaking, you know, Caucasian people. I just I think

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Speaker 4: we need to get over it, start moving in with

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Speaker 4: each other. Brilliant like that. Now, Neon, I need to

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Speaker 4: talk to you about Neon, but I've run out of time,

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Speaker 4: so I'm gonna get you across the situation with Neon.

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Speaker 4: But a whole lot of your content is going but

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Speaker 4: it might not be the end of the world potentially,

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Speaker 4: Stay with me and we'll deal with that shortly quarter past.

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Speaker 4: You know, electric freedom doesn't have to be big and

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Speaker 4: flashy a sometimes it could just be small and the

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Speaker 4: byd Atto one proves this. From just twenty nine nine

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Speaker 4: EV that's absolutely packed with practicality, three hundred and eight

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Speaker 4: keep your hands on the wheel and your eyes where

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Speaker 4: they should be. And then the safety tech is all there,

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Speaker 4: Adaptive cruise control, lane keep Assist, automatic emergency breaking. The

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Speaker 4: for ce ellen our nineteen past five. Now authorities have

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Speaker 4: ruled that Polymarket and calls are illegal under New Zealand's

878
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Speaker 4: gambling laws. Now these are international gambling websites where you

879
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Speaker 4: can best on just about anything, and punters on poly

880
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 4: Market have collectively bet one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

881
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Speaker 4: on tomorrow's ocr decision by the Reserve Bank Vicky Scott

882
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Speaker 4: is the DIA Director of Gambling and with us hig VICKI,

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Speaker 4: Hi Heather, Why is it illegal?

884
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Speaker 24: Look, it pretty clearly meets the definition of gambling and

885
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 24: the Gambling Act, which is defined pretty broadly as paying

886
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 24: or staking consideration on the outcome of something when you're

887
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Speaker 24: seeking to win money, and when that outcome depends wholly

888
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 24: or partly on chances were aside from the legal definition

889
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 24: that the features of these sorts of bets are akin

890
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 24: to any other kind of sports or novelty betting that

891
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 24: you see out there, there's where sort of other jurisdictions

892
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Speaker 24: have recently come to the same conclusion Australia recently and

893
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Speaker 24: more recently the UK, and we've taken a look at

894
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 24: it against our legal framework and it's it's pretty clear

895
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Speaker 24: that it meets the definition.

896
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Speaker 4: Are you going to shut it down?

897
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: So actually we wrote to both Kolshi and Polymarket yesterday

899
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Speaker 24: explaining our view that it's clearly in breach of our

900
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Speaker 24: law and requesting their immediate removal from the New Zealand market.

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00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 24: And it looks it appears as though they have now

902
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Speaker 24: GEO blocked. So account holders have had a message I

903
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Speaker 24: understand that says that they can no longer access their account.

904
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Speaker 24: They can still withdraw funds, but they can't use them

905
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Speaker 24: to place bets. And the polymarket website appears to be unavailable.

906
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Speaker 4: Are you looking at it right now? Am I hearing

907
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Speaker 4: you reach over to c if you.

908
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Speaker 24: Before I left the office hither I haven't checked it.

909
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Speaker 24: And the time it took me to drive home.

910
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 4: When did they cut us off at some point today?

911
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Speaker 24: So it was almost immediate response to our correspondent, that's surprised.

912
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Speaker 4: You, because I would have thought that if they I mean,

913
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Speaker 4: because really you actually couldn't do very much right, So

914
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Speaker 4: I would have thought they would know that and just

915
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Speaker 4: be like, nah, come for us. Does it surprise you

916
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Speaker 4: actually shut it down?

917
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 24: Obviously, enforcing against these overseas companies is always tricky. The

918
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 24: fact that they aren't arguing the toss about whether or

919
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 24: not the products are gamblings suggests to me that they

920
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Speaker 24: know they're playing in a grade space and a lot

921
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Speaker 24: of these market yeah, and you know, New Zealand isn't

922
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Speaker 24: the biggest market out there. So sometimes what we find,

923
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 24: because we've been taking the same approach when we write

924
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Speaker 24: to betting operators who are operating a breach here, sometimes

925
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Speaker 24: the New Zealand market's not really even on their radar.

926
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Speaker 4: And so the Vicky, I just I'm on polymarket dot com.

927
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Speaker 4: Should I be able to do that?

928
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Speaker 24: If you can access the website, that's not a breach,

929
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Speaker 24: it's the actual place.

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Speaker 4: Oh I see, So most people should should be able

931
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Speaker 4: to go on the website, they just can't actually bet

932
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Speaker 4: on it.

933
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: OK.

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Speaker 24: What would require them to do is actually, ye a

936
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Speaker 24: block the betting services from these yenders. So I understand

937
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Speaker 24: that how she's done that. We're still doing some testing

938
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Speaker 24: obviously because it's all happened pretty quickly, but you know,

939
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Speaker 24: I'm hoping that Polly Market will follow suit.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Vicky, I appreciate it. Vicky Scott, Department of

941
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Speaker 4: Internal Affairs, Director of Gambling. Do you want to see

942
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Speaker 4: what they're betting on apart from the OCR I thought

943
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Speaker 4: I would have thought the OC is an obvious one, like,

944
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Speaker 4: what are you betting on? It's a hold tomorrow, isn't

945
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Speaker 4: it anything else? Seems like you're wasting your money. Another

946
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Speaker 4: bet the US will strike a round by Sunday is

947
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Speaker 4: paying eleven dollars eleven. Jeffrey Epstein will be confirmed to

948
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Speaker 4: be alive by the end of this year, is paying

949
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Speaker 4: eighteen dollars. The next grand theft auto game will cost

950
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Speaker 4: more than one hundred dollars. US is paying two hundred dollars,

951
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Speaker 4: so that's a good return. Jesus Christ will return by

952
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Speaker 4: the end of this year, is only paying twenty seven

953
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Speaker 4: Only paying twenty seven dollars doesn't feel like I feel

954
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Speaker 4: like the odds are funny on that one. What do

955
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Speaker 4: you think five twenty two.

956
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Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts? It's Heather

957
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Speaker 1: Dufic Cyllen drive with one New Zealand coverage like no

958
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Speaker 1: one else news talks.

959
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Speaker 2: They'd be here that you.

960
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Speaker 4: Can just use a VPN to get around geo fencing.

961
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Speaker 4: Of course you can mark for five twenty five other listen.

962
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Speaker 4: If you love cricket, you should be worried about how

963
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: long this T twenty situation is taking to resolve. Right now,

964
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: the latest is that The Herald is reporting that there

965
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Speaker 4: may be as many as ten Black Caps who are

966
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Speaker 4: now going to be asking to get out of the

967
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: national contracts so they can go play cricket in overseas

968
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: leagues over summer. And this is if there is no

969
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: certainty over the n Z twenty starting now. This isn't

970
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Speaker 4: altogether a surprise, because if you cast your mind back

971
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Speaker 4: to when Trent Bolt first turned down his central contract

972
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Speaker 4: three and a half years ago, I told you this

973
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Speaker 4: would be a problem, and it has become a problem

974
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Speaker 4: because it was obvious money trumps everything and the money

975
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Speaker 4: that they're offering in the overseas leagues is better than

976
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Speaker 4: the money that New Zealand is currently offering, which brings

977
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Speaker 4: us to the n Z twenty competition that is being

978
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Speaker 4: currently proposed for New Zealand in January. The agonizing over

979
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Speaker 4: whether they should do this or not is just bizarre.

980
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: I mean, sure, there are some question marks over how

981
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: this will work, like the clash with planned tests being

982
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: the most obvious, but surely the n Z twenty has

983
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Speaker 4: to happen, because what is the alternative. The alternative is

984
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Speaker 4: what is happening right now. The current T twenty offering,

985
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Speaker 4: which is the Super Smash, will not be on television

986
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Speaker 4: next year. No one's put their hand up to broadcast it.

987
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: Yet domestic one dayers are already not on TV. No

988
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Speaker 4: one wants to broadcast them. They have to go to

989
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: YouTube to watch them. Surely anything is better than the

990
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: state of domestic cricket in this country. Right now, here's

991
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Speaker 4: my next prediction for you. If New Zealand Cricket doesn't

992
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: go for this n Z twenty offering or something like

993
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 4: it to keep black Caps in New Zealand over summer,

994
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: the black Caps will keep going over to the other

995
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: leagues and only coming back to play tests. And then

996
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: one day they will stop coming back to play tests,

997
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: because that is where this future takes us. First, the

998
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Speaker 4: central contracts are declined, and then all contracts are declined.

999
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 2: Heather Doopers the al We're going to talk.

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Speaker 4: About euthanasia next, because there's a bit of concern being

1001
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: raised about as push for big changes to euthanasia to

1002
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 4: standby for that on the Neons. So Neon has lost

1003
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: the HBO content, right, so let me start at the beginning.

1004
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: The happy news is that there'll be yet another streaming

1005
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: surface that you can pay for and watch content on.

1006
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: It will be HBO Max.

1007
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 18: Happy news.

1008
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: It's not happy news because already we feel overwhelmed and

1009
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: like we're spending too much money on this. The problem

1010
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: is you were already watching this content. It was on Neon,

1011
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: So now Neon's losing all of this content. It's a

1012
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: Night of the Seven Kingdoms, Last of Us, House of

1013
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: the Dragon, White Lotus, Euphoria, Succession, True Detective, The Pit

1014
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: and just like that, the new Harry Potter series, the

1015
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: DC Universe franchise, and it's going to happen next mid

1016
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: this year. Not good news for Sky. They're being brave

1017
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: about it. They're probably not going to drop the price

1018
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: of Neon. So I don't know. I'm I started off

1019
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 4: with it's good news. I'm feeling like it's not good news.

1020
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: You're just going to have to pay more. But anyway,

1021
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: Sky's CEO Sophie Malone is with us on this. After

1022
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: six news is next.

1023
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Speaker 1: Time hard questions strong opinion here the duplicity elland drive

1024
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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

1025
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Speaker 1: new Doorg said, be you you're taking me?

1026
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Speaker 19: How would you name go to the end?

1027
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Speaker 4: By the way, on the Sky business, HBO Max has

1028
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: not said how much they are going to charge right

1029
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: because we've got the new streaming service will have to

1030
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 4: pay for In Australia, they charge between fourteen New Zealand

1031
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: dollars and twenty six New Zealand dollars a month. Sky

1032
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: TV CEO Sophie Malonia will be with us after six.

1033
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: We've got huddle standing by shortly. It's fourteen rather twenty

1034
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: four away from six. Now the old euthanasia debate is

1035
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: heating up again because ACT is pushing for changes to

1036
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: its End of Life Choice Act. The proposed amendments include

1037
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: removing the six month prognosis requirement and then adopting all

1038
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Speaker 4: twenty five recommendations from a how ministry review. Ethos Alliance

1039
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: chief executive Alex Pink is warning it's going to breach

1040
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: human rights and he's with us now.

1041
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Hi, Alex, Hey, how are you hearing?

1042
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 8: Well?

1043
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 4: Thank you? What are the human rights that you're worried about?

1044
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 25: The key ones here are freedom of conscience, which is

1045
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 25: a really important concept for for doctors or anybody involved

1046
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 25: in the medical profession, which basically means the ability for

1047
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 25: people to preserve their most important beliefs, but things that

1048
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 25: give their life purpose, meaning and identity, the things that

1049
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 25: if they had to go against them, they would feel

1050
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 25: like they were betraying themselves. And there is a risk

1051
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 25: with ax proposed changes that that's exactly what will happen.

1052
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: Do doctors have to absolutely do this or can they

1053
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: opt out of doing it.

1054
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 25: No, no, So at the moment, what the law says

1055
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Speaker 25: is that if you're a health practitioner, you don't have

1056
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Speaker 25: to participate in euthanasia if you don't want to, unless

1057
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Speaker 25: you are the doctor caring for a person who asks

1058
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 25: for euthanasia. If you're in that situation and you don't

1059
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 25: want to participate, what you have to do is tell

1060
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 25: the patient where they can get a replacement doctor who

1061
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 25: will facilitate euthanasia. But what Acts Changes would say is

1062
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Speaker 25: that all health practitioners would have to give patients the

1063
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Speaker 25: contact details for a euthanasia doctor. And it would also

1064
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 25: start to narrow down the kinds of activities that doctors

1065
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 25: and other health practitioners could be excused from participating in.

1066
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Speaker 25: It will basically mean that health practitioners, for example, if

1067
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 25: they were part of a team caring for a patient

1068
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 25: who's going to receive euthanasia, they could have to be

1069
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 25: involved in that way, which at present they don't have

1070
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 25: to be. The other really significant part of the bill

1071
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 25: is that it would actually put new conscience limits on

1072
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 25: care facilities, so that's places like hospice, hospitals, disabilities support facilities,

1073
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 25: basically any place that provides what they call personal care

1074
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Speaker 25: services or health services, which is anything like support with hygiene, mobility, showering,

1075
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Speaker 25: even the provision of substantial emotional support. And those places

1076
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Speaker 25: would have to be prepared to allow euthanasia to take place,

1077
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Speaker 25: even if that goes against the whole reason they exist.

1078
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Speaker 4: How do you feel about the six month month prognosis

1079
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Speaker 4: requirement being removed?

1080
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Speaker 25: Well, what that would do, I think is open up

1081
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Speaker 25: to a whole range of long term conditions and disabilities

1082
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Speaker 25: that aren't covered right now. And this is one of

1083
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Speaker 25: those areas where you can write a law and it

1084
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Speaker 25: sounds kind of nice and clear and black and white

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Speaker 25: on the page, but in real life it doesn't translate

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Speaker 25: to that kind of clarity uncertainty. So at the moment,

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Speaker 25: you know, you're already asking doctors to do a pretty

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Speaker 25: pretty tough task when you say, look, can you predict

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Speaker 25: that this person is going to die in the next

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Speaker 25: six months. If you start opening up to conditions that

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Speaker 25: are just expected to cause death at some point in

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Speaker 25: the future, you kind of open the box to a

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Speaker 25: really wide range of conditions. And if you're a doctor

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Speaker 25: at the moment, for example, who says, you know, I

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Speaker 25: can make my peace with euthanasia for end stage cancer,

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Speaker 25: saying they might start to feel quite differently about this

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Speaker 25: when you start talking about diabetes, frailty, renal failure, and

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Speaker 25: all the other kind of conditions that are going.

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Speaker 7: To come in.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, for the problem with the most obvious

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Speaker 4: problem with the legislation as it is right now, is

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Speaker 4: that somebody who knows that they have dementia and that

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Speaker 4: it's not far away where they are just going to

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00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: be not themselves anymore, cannot opt out of that, should

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Speaker 4: they not be able to.

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Speaker 25: I think it's really important that thee that the law

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Speaker 25: actually says you have to be competent in order to

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00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 25: in order to be eligible for aside, there's some pretty

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00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 25: obvious risks if we start to give if there's.

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Speaker 4: Something that's not what I'm asking about. What I'm saying is,

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00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: if you know that you're getting dementia, or you're getting Alzheimer's,

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00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: or you're getting something that is going whatever it is,

1113
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Speaker 4: that's not necessarily going to kill you in the next

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Speaker 4: six months, but as going to really alter your life,

1115
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Speaker 4: should you not have the option to end it.

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Speaker 25: I think basically, if we start opening up the law

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Speaker 25: to those kinds of situations we really open Pandora's box.

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Speaker 25: So there's just an enormous potential for abuse in that

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Speaker 25: kind of situation. That's why the law has always been

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Speaker 25: very clear and drawing boundaries around this is one of

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00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 25: the things we were told would be a key safeguard

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 25: in the law that we have drawing boundaries to say

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Speaker 25: that we can't open the door to that kind of

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Speaker 25: situation because too much could go wrong. That's fundamentally what

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Speaker 25: you're talking about there. That is not what Kiwi's voted

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Speaker 25: for in the referendum, and x proposed changes are not

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Speaker 25: what Key's voted for in the referendum either.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Alex, It's good to talk to you, appreciated Alex

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Speaker 4: Pink Ethos Alliance Chief Executive twenty away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty a name

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Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 4: On the Huddle of us this evening, Ali Jones read

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Speaker 4: Pr Morris Williams and Auckland Councilor for the National Party Minister.

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Speaker 4: Hell are you two?

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Speaker 11: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Ali? Are you okay with that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 12: Not?

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Speaker 26: I don't agree with Alex Pink I think it. Ex changes,

1140
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Speaker 26: as I understand them, won't make anyone do anything they

1141
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 26: can't really do. Now, I mean, I do understand that

1142
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Speaker 26: point that you were making. I think was very valid

1143
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Speaker 26: that that six months could be six months of a horrendous,

1144
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Speaker 26: revolting time for people, you know, suffering a terminal illness.

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Speaker 26: Of course, you can't always be one hundred percent right

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Speaker 26: that someone has a terminal illness, but I haven't seen

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Speaker 26: the stats. I think they've probably pretty much on the

1148
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 26: money these days when they say someone's got a terminal illness,

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Speaker 26: And I think to your point too, people should be

1150
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Speaker 26: able to make that choice. I don't see any problems

1151
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 26: with this, and I support from what I can see

1152
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 26: acts changes.

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Speaker 8: Marris, Yeah, totally support it. I'm at the very end

1154
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 8: of this debate. I've just had one hundred and one

1155
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 8: year old mum die and for most of that years,

1156
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Speaker 8: right up until three or four months before the end,

1157
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Speaker 8: perfectly in great condition, totally in control. But in the

1158
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 8: last three months and such pain and agony at work

1159
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 8: at hospital and pleading with me to find a way

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Speaker 8: she could move on. I've seen people, when I was

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Speaker 8: in the Health Ministry of a number of people who

1162
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 8: had completely lost who they were, where they were, and

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Speaker 8: what they were. And I promise you can put it

1164
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Speaker 8: on the show and keep the recording if I'm ever

1165
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 8: in that state, and sometimes a counsel I feel like

1166
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 8: I am, I'd rather shuffle off the planet really quickly.

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Speaker 4: Right if they put you down, Morris will use.

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Speaker 2: This thought they'd be as a reference.

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Speaker 8: I'm okay with it. I just think it's the perfect

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Speaker 8: way to go. I think that's a big debate between

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Speaker 8: those is with very strict religious beliefs and those of

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Speaker 8: us that are more sort of I don't know, not

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Speaker 8: that fussed about all the religious stuff anymore.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think even some people who are fussed about

1175
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: religious stuff are not really that stressed out about this,

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Speaker 4: you know, as it should be, because you're going to

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Speaker 4: go meet your maker, which is what you want the

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Speaker 4: whole time, isn't it? Allie? The infrastructure plan. You looked

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Speaker 4: at this, you saw how much money had to be spent,

1180
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Speaker 4: You saw how little we are spending in the right places,

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Speaker 4: and your first reaction was what, Well, my first.

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Speaker 26: Reaction was, who, look, I don't know whether this infrastructure plan.

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Speaker 27: Is what we need.

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Speaker 26: I obviously haven't read the whole thing framework to deliver

1185
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Speaker 26: infrastructure for New Zealand over the next thirty years. But

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Speaker 26: I think we need to know two things. Firstly, why

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Speaker 26: are we so inefficient? I mean, we're spending you know,

1188
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 26: five point eight percent of GDP, We're up there, but

1189
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Speaker 26: our inefficiency is you know, we're right down the bottom.

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Speaker 26: So I think we need to find out why we

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Speaker 26: are so inefficient. That actually is more important to me

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Speaker 26: than signing off.

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Speaker 23: Some of the stuff in this report.

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Speaker 26: And I think the other thing we need when we

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Speaker 26: hear stuff like we need more hospitals, yeah, of course

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Speaker 26: we do, and we have to invest in our health system,

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Speaker 26: but I think we have to look at the health

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Speaker 26: system holistically. If we actually address some of the issues

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Speaker 26: with primary health, that will stop people having to go

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Speaker 26: into hospital. To me, this just seems like a kind

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Speaker 26: of a let's throw something out of wall and see

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Speaker 26: how it sticks and goes along with what most people want.

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Speaker 24: It doesn't feel right to me.

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Speaker 23: It doesn't feel robust.

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Speaker 8: Morris, Well, you do all the planning in the world,

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Speaker 8: but it's delivery that matters. I mean, Labor had this

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Speaker 8: big plan to build a cycle way across the wide

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00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 8: amount of Harbor and they were going to put a

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Speaker 8: light rail down Dominion Road and all sorts of none.

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Speaker 2: Of it happened.

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Speaker 8: The problem has too. We've got two serious issues with

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Speaker 8: new soil. And first of all, we're not the wealthy

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Speaker 8: country we would like to think we are, so we

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Speaker 8: can't afford some of the standards of infrastructure. I just

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 8: meant that the Christmas break can do Bai. They're going

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Speaker 8: to be building thirty kilometers of rail in the next

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Speaker 8: three years. We couldn't build three kilometers of rail in

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Speaker 8: six or nine years, and we still haven't got it open.

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Speaker 8: I think Ali's right the inefficiency.

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Speaker 2: Of our delivery.

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Speaker 8: You know, we're going to build the International Convention Center

1222
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 8: and happened open in twenty twenty one. It's only just opened.

1223
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Speaker 8: And there is a plethora of examples where the budget

1224
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 8: has been more than twice or three times and the

1225
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 8: delivery has been three or four times what was supposed

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Speaker 8: to be. And so we're not a wealthy country. And

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Speaker 8: the thing that really got to me was Treasury's forecast

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Speaker 8: that if we carry on just as we are, this

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Speaker 8: is not spending more. The debt of GDPI rat show

1230
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Speaker 8: will be two hundred percent to GDP by twenty sixty five.

1231
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Speaker 8: That's only a generation from now two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 8: seven thousand dollars debt for every person in the country.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, massive, isn't it. You're right, we just aren't healthy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're totally right, not wealthy enough, all of the stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 4: take a break, come back shortly the Huddle.

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Speaker 1: Quarter two The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty,

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Speaker 4: You're back with the Huddle, Morris Williamson and Allie Jones. Morris,

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Speaker 4: you see those interesting stats about how many babies are

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Speaker 4: now not being born to mums who are under twenty five.

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Speaker 8: I did, and I think they miss the real big

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Speaker 8: point here. Those stats suggest that the number of births

1243
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Speaker 8: were about the same two generations ago in nineteen sixty

1244
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Speaker 8: five as they are today. But I've got some numbers

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Speaker 8: I just did before we come on the program. The

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Speaker 8: female population in New Zealand back in nineteen sixty five

1247
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Speaker 8: was one point three. Now it's two point seven. So

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Speaker 8: the female population of New Zealand has more than doubled

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Speaker 8: in that time. But we've had about the same number

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Speaker 8: of births. And then when you look at the number

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Speaker 8: of twenty five year olds, it was about two point

1252
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Speaker 8: one percent of the female population, and now it's point three.

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Speaker 8: What that just suggests is that you know, in the

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Speaker 8: old day, see I'm old enough to remember all this

1255
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Speaker 8: in nineteen sixty five, but you used to get married,

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Speaker 8: get pregnant, and then have a baby. Every now and

1257
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Speaker 8: then it was get pregnant and get married and have

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Speaker 8: a baby, but not not the sort of standard. But

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Speaker 8: now it's anything goes, and you can buy the morning

1260
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Speaker 8: after pill whenever you want to, however you like. And

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Speaker 8: so the young women of today have got all sorts

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Speaker 8: of flexibility. And one last thing from ninety sixty five

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Speaker 8: you won't believe it, but I promise you can check

1264
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Speaker 8: it out. The vast bulk of occupations made women have

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Speaker 8: to quit work if they got married, and it was

1266
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Speaker 8: coming next, even the teaching profession, air hostesses, so no

1267
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Speaker 8: wonder it was my only option in life is I'll

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Speaker 8: have babies. And now women have got so many more

1269
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 8: avenues of full time career. Sometimes don't want to have children,

1270
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Speaker 8: mostly don't even want to bloke around nowadays, and so

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Speaker 8: it's up to them, and good on them, But it's

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Speaker 8: a fantastic change happened in only two generations.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that is the remarkable thing, Alie, is how Quicklian's happened,

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Speaker 4: just in sixty years lutely.

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Speaker 26: I mean I had mine older. I was just over

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Speaker 26: thirty one when I had my first, and I was

1277
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Speaker 26: thirty five when I had my second. My mother was

1278
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Speaker 26: twenty four, so you know, that was It's incredible. But

1279
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Speaker 26: I think there's more to it than I do agree

1280
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Speaker 26: with what Morris is saying with you know the fact

1281
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Speaker 26: that it was very traditional women stopped work and you

1282
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Speaker 26: know all these.

1283
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Speaker 23: Things, but I think the stop had to stop work.

1284
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Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well exactly. But I think of change

1285
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Speaker 26: in traditional roles as well. You know, we've we've got

1286
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 26: women out working, men at home.

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Speaker 23: Kids are expensive.

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Speaker 26: Cost of living plays a part in this as well,

1289
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Speaker 26: and also something that a girlfriend and I were talking

1290
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Speaker 26: about the other day. People having babies older means that

1291
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Speaker 26: grandparents may not be around to help, you know, as

1292
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 26: much as they did in the past, so you don't

1293
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 26: have that extra help that you'd normally have, so you

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01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 26: might just settle for one or two instead of three

1295
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Speaker 26: or four. But yeah, amazing how that's changed in that

1296
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Speaker 26: period of time color. It's expensive though, aren't they expensive?

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Speaker 4: But you know what I reckon if I could have

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Speaker 4: changed things, like if I could have had my cake

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Speaker 4: and eatn at two, it would have been that I

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Speaker 4: would have had my kids about about ten years earlier,

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Speaker 4: just so that my mum could see more of what

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Speaker 4: they yet up to, and then I can see more

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Speaker 4: of what their kids get up to. Don't you think?

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Speaker 26: No, you're right, and I remember again discussing this with friends.

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Speaker 26: You know, there were so many advantages to having babies early.

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Speaker 26: There's never a perfect i'm financially or whatever, but also

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Speaker 26: some really good reasons to have it a bit later.

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Speaker 4: But don't leave it too late. No, I agree with

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Speaker 4: you too, Heather, Yeah, totally all right. Now, how do

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Speaker 4: you feel about this polym I can't, Morris, I can't

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Speaker 4: help but feel that the poly market. Yeah, sure, it's illegal,

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Speaker 4: but Jesus's twenty twenty six and it's the Internet. Do

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Speaker 4: we really have to police what people are gambling putting

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Speaker 4: their money on.

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think so, and I don't think you can.

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Speaker 8: I think in the end there will be virtual private

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Speaker 8: network providers and all sorts of people that can put

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Speaker 8: you under the radar and allow you to go. You know,

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Speaker 8: the horse has bolted and I don't want to use

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Speaker 8: that expression and gambling, but the horse has bolted with

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01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 8: regards to oh, we can control what our populace does

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 8: and sees and his it was Starlink satellites going above

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Speaker 8: you and putting phenomenal bandwidth down virtual private networks. We

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Speaker 8: would love to control a whole lot of things. We

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Speaker 8: would love to stop a whole lot of things. I

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Speaker 8: don't know whether you saw the news in Iran, but

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Speaker 8: the number of people in Iran who are now getting

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Speaker 8: starlink kits into their properties and being able to go

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Speaker 8: back on the Internet. To these people who don't think

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Speaker 8: will ever get to control.

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Speaker 4: It, Yeah, what do you reckon, Ellie?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I don't think you'll be able to stop it either.

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Speaker 26: I'm more concerned to hear that you can still gamble

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Speaker 26: using the VPN, but I can't access TV and Z

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Speaker 26: or my Netflix account when I go to Australia and US.

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Speaker 4: That's right, we should get them running the old gambling system.

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Speaker 4: That will sort it out.

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Speaker 15: Eight.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, as always. That's Morris Williamson and Ali Jones

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Speaker 4: are he haud of this evening. This is the other

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Speaker 4: thing people are betting on. Twenty twenty eight US presidential

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Speaker 4: election front runners are jd Vance, Gary Gavin Newsom, Marco

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Speaker 4: Rubio and AOC. And also the Rock is in the mix,

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Speaker 4: and the Rock is paying seventy one dollars forty three

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Speaker 4: And I will remind you the Rock being in the

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Speaker 4: mix for twenty twenty eight has got higher payout than

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Speaker 4: Jesus coming back by the end of this year. Seven

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Speaker 4: away from six, it's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Art Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Heather was so inefficient. This is reinfrastructure because those who

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: make decisions on our behalf or so over the top

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Speaker 4: regarding safety. I'd have to agree with that. And hither

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Speaker 4: I think the issue is that we accept our horrendous

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Speaker 4: productivity as are given. All of us see the inefficiencies daily,

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Speaker 4: and none of us can be bothered or empowered to

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Speaker 4: do anything about it. So we just carry on, don't we?

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Speaker 4: Just fourteen away from six now, Prime Minister? Has the

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister been making up stories again? Reason I ask

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Speaker 4: is because media got onto this yesterday when he announced

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Speaker 4: that the state of o would be coming to Eden Park,

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Speaker 4: he told a really lovely story about how he used

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Speaker 4: to grow up. When he was growing up, rather, he

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 4: used to watch the NRAL clashes.

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Speaker 17: For many of us kids like me, we grew up

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Speaker 17: in the eighties and nineties watching some absolutely fantastic battles

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Speaker 17: and mom and dad would let us stay up late

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Speaker 17: and watch it, and it was absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Now, the problem is that The State of O was

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Speaker 4: not broadcast live in New Zealand until nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 4: and given that he was born in nineteen seventy, that

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Speaker 4: would make him nineteen years old. So I don't know

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Speaker 4: about you, but by the time I hit nineteen, I

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Speaker 4: wasn't asking Mummy and Daddy if I could stay up late.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I wasn't even living with Mummy and Daddy.

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Speaker 4: Isn't a flat and if I was, I reckon they

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Speaker 4: would be okay with me staying up till about nine

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Speaker 4: thirty ten or so to watch it play. I don't

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Speaker 4: know anyway, it's not a big deal. It's not a

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Speaker 4: big deal. It's just pointing out that how funny memories are,

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 4: aren't they. Like you think you remembered something, You're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that definitely happened, and then some some cocky little media

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01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: outfit goes and checks when you were born and when

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Speaker 4: and it didn't happen. Mate, can't be real, so you

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01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 4: can have to rethink that memory. That's annoying, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: So if you're Maloney, Sky TV CEO is going to

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Speaker 4: be with us. Next news Talk said.

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Speaker 12: Be.

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Speaker 2: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: The Business hour with Head the Duper Clan and MAS

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Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, your futures Hin good Hands used doorg ZV.

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Speaker 4: Evening coming up in the next hour. Jamie McKay on

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01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 4: the Red Meat Exports on the up, the Road Carriers

1394
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: Association on the nine dollar toll on the Harbor Bridge idea.

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 4: That's after half past and an end of Brady will

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Speaker 4: come out of the UK for us at seven past six.

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Speaker 4: Now the Pit, the White Lotus, a ton of other

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01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: HBO shows are going to be gone from Neon by

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 4: the second half of this year, and that's because Warner

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01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 4: Brothers Discovery is planning to launch its own streaming service here,

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 4: yes another one, and it's pulling its content from Neon

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Speaker 4: is own by sky TV. The CEO is Sophie Maloney,

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Speaker 4: High Sophie to hear that, Hey, I'm well, thank you.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 4: I know you're putting on a brave face today, but

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Speaker 4: this must be gutting.

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Speaker 15: No, it's not.

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Speaker 21: Actually, I think it's been pretty well signaled the Warner

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Speaker 21: Brothers Discovery. We'll thinking about going direct. But also we've

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Speaker 21: shared with our shareholders, particularly at an annual shareholder meeting,

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Speaker 21: that the Neon subs where we wanted them to be.

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Speaker 21: And also we've been doing a huge amount of work

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Speaker 21: on our entertainment strategy because we want to have a

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Speaker 21: constant drum beat of titles for our customers.

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Speaker 4: So no, this is not gutting.

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Speaker 21: This is the next phase for us. But you know,

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Speaker 21: just for all of your listeners out there, the good

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01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 21: news is that they can keep watching the Pit. Season

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 21: two Eufhouria is coming because we have got that content

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Speaker 21: until the middle of the year. But what I'm really

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 21: excited about here that is the new content we have

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 21: coming through Paramount, including Marshalls, a Yellowstone story, and we've

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Speaker 21: gottlined Outlander the final season. I just wanted to give

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01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 21: you a sense of the additional content we're going to have.

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01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: But our customers, if your aim is to have a

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01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: constant drum beat of content arriving. Then doesn't this make

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 4: it harder?

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Speaker 21: No, in the sense that we've now got we've been

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 21: looking at all of our viewership data and we recognize

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 21: that actually we need a order slate of content than

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 21: what we were securing today through the Hbox deal. And

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 21: so that's why I'm referencing some of those titles. You know,

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 21: our biggest title last year by far was Yellowstone, so

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01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 21: had to have this new deal with Paramount. But also

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 21: hither it means that we can be investing another content

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01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 21: that makes sense for our business with other studios like

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Speaker 21: Sony and the BBC. So you know what, I think

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01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 21: it's been well signaled, but as a team, we're really

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 21: excited about what the future holds.

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 4: Me now on was that a really expensive contract for you?

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Speaker 21: I mean these are you know, the HBO Max content

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01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 21: and it comes with a price tag, and so yes,

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Speaker 21: that all went into the hopper of the discussion, because.

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Speaker 4: The reason I'm asking is then the money that it

1445
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: frees up by losing that you can buy more content

1446
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,839
Speaker 4: with the same money than you would have got from

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 4: these guys. That's right, Okay, are you going to drop

1448
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 4: the price of Neil No.

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Speaker 21: Because we've got lots of awesome contents coming, and we've

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Speaker 21: still got all of the Hbox contents aller the year.

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Speaker 21: As I say, all of those titles are just referenced,

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 21: are coming in March. And you know what, there is

1453
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 21: an excellent Sky original called A Small Town Scandal with

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 21: Tom Sainsbury and Felicity Kendle of Good Life Fame, which

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 21: I would highly recommend to you, Heather and all of

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01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 21: the listeners. So look, there's a the entertainment world. There's

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 21: a huge amount of variety and substitutability, and what we're

1458
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 21: wanting to do is make sure we can actually have

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01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 21: consistent month and month out content that works for New Zealanders.

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Speaker 4: So no, there's not going to be a change in

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Speaker 4: the price, and.

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Speaker 21: We just need to make sure the value is there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to do that, ah, because the Chune

1464
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 4: thing is a big problem, isn't it. Where we switch

1465
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 4: on and we've discussed this before, you and I, we

1466
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 4: switch on to Neon, watch all the content that's new,

1467
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 4: binge watch it, jump off, go to Disney and so

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01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 4: basically you need stuff arriving every single month to keep

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Speaker 4: me there the whole year.

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Speaker 21: That's spot on here and that's what we're looking to

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Speaker 21: do and we think we've got a lot of opportunity

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Speaker 21: to do that. But of course, in terms of our

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 21: results and we're at that's for next week's conversation, when

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Speaker 21: I hope you'll have me.

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Speaker 4: Back absolutely, Sophie, thank you for reminding me. Sophie Maloney's

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Speaker 4: sky TV CEO. By the way, State of O because

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01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 4: remember it's not SkyTV doesn't just have the Neon play.

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 4: They've also got the the you know, all the sports

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Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So they've got the State of

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Speaker 4: O on sky TV, so there's something to look forward to.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 4: UK bank bosses are meeting in a couple of days

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: and that what they're going to meet to discuss is

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01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: setting up in a UK alternative to Visa and MasterCard.

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01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: And this is which of course are US companies. And

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 4: this has come about because they're worried that Donald Trump

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: has the ability basically to turn off the payment systems

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 4: and we're all super reliant on the Visa and the

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Speaker 4: master Card. About ninety five percent of UK car transactions

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Speaker 4: are made using the payment systems owned by MasterCard and Visa,

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Speaker 4: and if it went off, they are saying in the

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Speaker 4: UK would send them back to the nineteen fifties. So

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Speaker 4: they're basically going to get together and discuss fronting the

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: costs to set up their own payment system. So keep

1495
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 4: an eye on that because it's the decoupling, isn't it

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Speaker 4: of the US and basically wider Europe. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: Edge The Heather Duplessy Allen Drave Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen on the

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Speaker 1: Business Hour with MAS Insurance and Investments, Your Futures in

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Speaker 1: Good Hands, News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: Evening Hither I went off me on ages ago. There's

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Speaker 4: absolutely nothing on it and they still run new releases

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Speaker 4: that were screen possibly three years ago. Michael, thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's called to pass six. Jamie mckaye, Host of the

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Speaker 4: Countries with US, Hello, Jamie, good.

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Speaker 2: Day, Heller.

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Speaker 4: Do you reckon? We're going to make it four in

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Speaker 4: a row?

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Speaker 12: I hope, So the futures market would indicate that it

1511
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 12: could be four in a row. With the GDT auction tonight,

1512
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 12: we've gone up since New Year. Remember we had nine

1513
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 12: falls in a row. To wind out twenty twenty five.

1514
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 12: We've been up six point three, one point five, and

1515
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 12: six point seven respectively in the first three auctions. So

1516
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 12: I guess the question is, is ten dollars back on

1517
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 12: the carts ten dollars per kilogram of milk solids. Currently,

1518
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 12: Fonterra is sitting at a midpoint of nine dollars.

1519
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1520
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 12: The futures markets, for what they're worth, have the current

1521
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 12: season at nine dollars fifty four, and twenty six twenty seven,

1522
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 12: you know, which starts on June one of this year,

1523
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 12: is at a very healthy nine dollars forty. It's not

1524
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 12: that long ago that it was sitting at eight dollars.

1525
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 12: So anyhow, my guy from Jarden, Mike McIntyre, says the

1526
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 12: market tonight could be flat for whole milk powder and

1527
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 12: amf an hydrous milk fat, but skim milk powder is

1528
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 12: a real chance to go up six or seven percent.

1529
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 12: Butter could go anywhere, he says, So across the board,

1530
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 12: we're looking at maybe two to three percent across the board.

1531
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 12: So if it's four in a row, it's good news

1532
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 12: for the dairy industry very much.

1533
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 8: Said.

1534
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 4: It's looking good for the wall as well.

1535
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 8: Isn't it.

1536
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean this is one of the great stories

1537
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 12: of the latter part of twenty twenty five and the

1538
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 12: early part of this season. Last week's christ Church sale

1539
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 12: strong walland it was up a whopping forty seven cents

1540
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 12: one hundred percent clearance. The old buyers were going flat out.

1541
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 12: Everything was bid up. And this is worth a dollar.

1542
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 12: That's getting a wee bit high from an exporters point

1543
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 12: of view, at above US sixty cents. We're looking now

1544
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 12: at a wall price and approaching six hundred cents of

1545
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 12: kilogram clean for strong cross bred wall could be coming soon.

1546
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 12: That equates to close to five dollars greasy, depending on,

1547
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 12: of course the yield of the wall. So there's just

1548
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 12: just due to the demise and sheet numbers around the world, Heather,

1549
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,959
Speaker 12: there's just a global shortage of wal. It's a wonderfully

1550
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 12: sustainable product. I don't know why it wasn't hasn't been

1551
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 12: worth more. But you can go back to the COVID

1552
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 12: loaws of twenty twenty one and farmers were getting paid

1553
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 12: less than a dollar a kilogram for flee swall. So

1554
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 12: if they can get if they can get up up

1555
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 12: to close to five bucks. It's another good news story.

1556
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 4: Now, do you think the record levels that were we've

1557
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 4: got on the red meat exports are sustainable?

1558
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 12: Well, I don't know what I think because I'm not

1559
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 12: really an expert. I did speak to Tom Young out

1560
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 12: of AFCO and he says they're not really sustainable at

1561
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 12: the moment. Because one of the big questions out there

1562
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 12: in farming, could red meat, namely lamb at close to

1563
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 12: eleven dollars beat dairy, which is currently sitting at nine

1564
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 12: dollars if you'd take the fonterra midpoint, could red meat

1565
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 12: beat dairy for the first time in years? Beef sitting

1566
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 12: at about nine dollars thirty or forty, so it's currently

1567
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 12: above dairy as well. Look what he was saying was

1568
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 12: that companies are competing hard for stock. We've had all

1569
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 12: this rain. It goes without saying. We've had a lot

1570
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 12: of rain around the country and that's meant lots of grass.

1571
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 12: It's been great for the pastoral farmers. Hasn't been so

1572
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 12: good for the poor old arable farmers. But these farmers

1573
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 12: have got lots of grass. They're going crazy over storestock.

1574
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 12: This is the stock you buy off someone else to

1575
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 12: fatten or make prime to be politically correct and then

1576
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 12: send for processing. Now, the companies are really having to

1577
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 12: compete hard for stock at the moment. There's a lack

1578
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 12: of throughput because farmers are hanging onto the stock to

1579
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 12: put more weight onto their lambs, their mutton and their

1580
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 12: beef and dairy cows that are going to the works.

1581
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 12: So the companies are having real issues were through put

1582
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 12: at the moment very hard to keep plants open five

1583
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 12: days a week. You know, the numbers did come out

1584
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 12: last week, Heather. They were stunning red meat industry worth

1585
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 12: eleven point seven billion, a nineteen percent increase on twenty

1586
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 12: twenty four.

1587
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 4: And stuff will take that money. Jamie, thanks very much, mate.

1588
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you in a couple of days. It's

1589
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 4: Jamie McKay, Host of the Country right now, nineteen past.

1590
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: Six, Heather dupless Ellen.

1591
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 4: Goldman Sacks has come out in the last few hours.

1592
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 4: Goldman Sachs is going to as scrap the DEI criteria

1593
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 4: for its board, so when they go and look for

1594
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 4: new potential directors, they will no longer consider race, sexual, orientationally,

1595
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 4: any other DEI factors. Now, I'm telling you this is

1596
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 4: because yet another you can add that to the list

1597
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: of corporates who are now quite clearly and quite publicly

1598
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 4: moving away from this diversity stuff. And if you know

1599
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 4: how I feel about it, you know I'm happy about

1600
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: that now. If you were listening the other week, I

1601
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: think I might had been. Last week Murray Olds told

1602
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 4: us there was this rumor going around that male's ski jumpers,

1603
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 4: well maybe it was Oli, it was one of the

1604
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 4: boys from Australia anyway, that male ski jumpers in the

1605
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: Winter Olympics were having high luronic acid. I think it's

1606
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 4: how you pronounce it, hialuronic acid injected into their penises.

1607
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 4: And the reason they were doing this, The rumor end

1608
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 4: that they were trying to increase the surface area of

1609
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 4: their suits that would basically enable them to jump further.

1610
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 4: It popped up in a German newspaper and then, of course,

1611
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 4: because it's so ridiculous, everybody looked at it and went,

1612
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 4: that's ridiculous, and then forgot about it. Turns out it's true.

1613
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 4: There is an Italian plastic surgeon called Alessandro Littara who

1614
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 4: has confirmed that he does actually inject the stuff into

1615
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 4: penises on the regular I think he says he's done

1616
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 4: something like three thousand penises already. He says he carried

1617
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 4: out the proceed you're on a ski jumper in the

1618
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 4: last month, and the ski jumper told him the reason

1619
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 4: he needed it done because he was because he was

1620
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 4: experiencing embarrassment in the dressing room after competition. But you

1621
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: decide for yourself. Is it because he was ashamed because

1622
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 4: he could keep his nickers on if he wanted to,

1623
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, that's one way of dealing with

1624
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 4: the shame. Is it really because he was ashamed? Or

1625
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 4: is it because he wanted to be able to jump further? Anyway? Alessandro,

1626
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 4: because you know how Italians are, like famously humble, he

1627
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 4: reckons he did a great job six twenty one.

1628
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics. It's all

1629
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: on the business hour. We're the head the DUP sur

1630
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 1: and MAS insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands.

1631
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: News talks heavy.

1632
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 4: The situation with if you've been following what's going on

1633
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 4: today with the Infrastructure Commission report, one of the things

1634
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 4: that came out is that we need to toll the

1635
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 4: Auckland Harbor Bridge in order to pay for an alternative

1636
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 4: crossing and then told that one too, and the toll

1637
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 4: would be nine dollars per one way trip. You're dreaming, mate.

1638
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 4: But the other thing was also we need to cut

1639
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 4: the spending on roads, which I would say is going

1640
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: to go down like a couple cold sects. Everybody who

1641
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 4: loves driving on a new road anyway, the people who

1642
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 4: love driving on the new roads the most of course

1643
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: of the Road Carriers Association will get their take on

1644
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 4: this when they are with us. They're going to be

1645
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 4: with us. Just after the half past news got a

1646
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 4: little update for you on the More Points sewerage leak

1647
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: in Wellington.

1648
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 7: Now.

1649
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 4: The update here is apparently that Wellington Water has underspent

1650
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 4: its budget for last year by millions of dollars. The

1651
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 4: Wellington City Council are going to be briefed or it

1652
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: should have been briefed by now on this, because they've

1653
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 4: got a meeting to discuss this on Thursday, and the

1654
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 4: papers that they have been given as part of this

1655
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 4: briefing apparently show the underspend. Now, the question about the underspend,

1656
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 4: I mean underspending is you know, just because you've been

1657
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: given a budget doesn't mean you should spend it. But

1658
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 4: if the underspend is related to something that's gone wrong here,

1659
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 4: There'll be serious questions about that. I would have thought.

1660
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: Marlon Williams has just put out an email today saying

1661
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: he is going to give up music. He says he's

1662
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,919
Speaker 4: he's been traveling and look if you've seen his documentary,

1663
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 4: because you know, I'm amal and Williams fan, so I

1664
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 4: watched the documentary last year, and in the documentary he

1665
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 4: talked about the fact that he's just bone tired. He's

1666
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 4: been doing music for twenty years. He's been touring for

1667
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 4: the longest time, and I think, you know, it's probably

1668
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 4: not obvious to the rest of us. Touring looks like

1669
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 4: quite a lot of fun. But I think when you're

1670
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 4: doing touring all the time, it just becomes a bit rough,

1671
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 4: with the lack of sleep and sleeping on floors and

1672
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 4: and weird places if you're not sort of you know,

1673
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 4: at that kind of rolling stones level. Anyway, he says,

1674
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 4: for nearly twenty years, I've explored both the physical and

1675
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 4: the musical world in the company of incredible musicians, songwriters

1676
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 4: and friends. It's been an absolute pleasure. He's just put

1677
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 4: out this email. By the way, the catch with it

1678
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: is that because it's such a blessing to do what

1679
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 4: you love, it can be easy to overlook the toll

1680
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 4: it can take over time on the body and soul.

1681
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 4: So yes, I'm gonna have a cup of tea and

1682
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 4: a lie down and maybe get a dog, which is

1683
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 4: good for him, but sad for those of us who

1684
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 4: like listening to his music.

1685
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: Six twenty six, There's no business like show business.

1686
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 4: Quick, your latest Netflix binge is here. Do you remember

1687
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 4: when Netflix did deep dive into the Biggest Loser and

1688
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 4: how problematic it all was. They have just released the

1689
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: spiritual sequel to that. It's called Reality Check Inside America's

1690
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 4: Next Top Model. Oh it's ruining for you.

1691
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 3: We are rooting for you.

1692
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 8: That was a moment where I realized, Oh my god,

1693
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 8: I think we built a monster.

1694
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 4: There was a lot of body We are actually going

1695
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 4: to switch your ethnicities.

1696
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 15: Baby Girl, Baby Girl.

1697
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 4: The show aims to uncover the dark stories behind one

1698
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 4: of the two thousand's biggest reality shows. One of the

1699
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 4: most shocking revelations was what happened to j Alexander aka

1700
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 4: Miss j Miss Jay was the judge who wore all

1701
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 4: the tiny bowl cut wegs and pulled crazy Faces, and

1702
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 4: in the documentary, he revealed that he suffered a stroke

1703
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 4: a few years back and Tyra Banks never came to

1704
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 4: see him. Darn't come and visit you.

1705
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 6: No, yeah yet she just sent me as she wants

1706
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 6: to come and visit.

1707
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 7: Me, but no.

1708
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 2: Day Jack.

1709
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 4: Now, if you're wondering, well, what happens Tyra Banks, don't worry,

1710
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: I've got you. Tyra moved to Sydney, Australia a couple

1711
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 4: of years ago to open a hot ice cream shop.

1712
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah you heard that right, a hot ice cream shop. Now,

1713
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 4: if you're wondering what hot ice cream is, don't worry,

1714
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 4: I've got you. The Australian Food Regulator also agrees with that.

1715
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 4: They've ruled that the product cannot legally be called ice cream,

1716
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 4: with Banks cleverly changing the name to hot smies cream.

1717
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 4: The Guardian reviewed this treat. They say it has the

1718
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 4: consistency of something between milk and melted ice cream, and

1719
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 4: they also called the taste confrontingly sweet. So I thought

1720
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 4: that there might be some sort of a magic trick

1721
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 4: that happens, but no, it would appear that when you

1722
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 4: heat ice cream, it melts, and that is what they

1723
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 4: serve you so anyway, don't know. Now you're going to

1724
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 4: go and try it because I am too. I also

1725
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 4: want to go try it. I know we are weird.

1726
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 4: Road Carriers Association with US next seat.

1727
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: Sash everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business

1728
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: Hour with the head of Duplicy Allen and Mass Insurance

1729
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: and Investments. Your futures in good hands us talk send me.

1730
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 16: Won't you in.

1731
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 4: Cons Innexus down for a third day in a row

1732
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: down zero point sixty six percent today, Inda Brady will

1733
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 4: bear us out of the UK in ten minutes time.

1734
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 4: Right now it is twenty four away from seven now.

1735
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 4: Today's Infrastructure Commission report was not the best news for motorists.

1736
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 4: The report recommends cutting our annual spend on roading from

1737
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: one point three percent of GDP down to one percent

1738
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 4: for the next thirty years, and another idea was a

1739
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 4: nine dollars each way toll on the Auckland Harbor Bridge

1740
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 4: to pay for a second crossing, which would presumably be

1741
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 4: told as well. Justin ty Umbers is the CEO of

1742
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 4: the National Road Carriers Association and with US Now, Hi, Justin,

1743
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 4: Hello Heather, how do you feel about a cut in

1744
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 4: the spending on roads.

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01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 7: Look, I think what the Infrastructure Commission's trying to do

1746
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 7: is clearly we've got a long laundry list of some

1747
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 7: expensive infrastructure, and I think they're signaling its time for

1748
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 7: an adult conversation in terms of what we're prepared to

1749
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 7: pay for. But I think it's not just about what

1750
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 7: the cost is in a relationship to GDP. I think

1751
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:23,839
Speaker 7: you also still have to look at what particular investments unlock.

1752
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 7: So what would a second Harbor bridge unlock? What would

1753
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 7: a Northern expressway up to fung Ray, for example, what

1754
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 7: would that unlock? So you've got to look at the

1755
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 7: what it gives not just the economy, but also to

1756
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 7: lifestyles of New Zealanders as well as part of the equation.

1757
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 4: So okay, talk me through what would actually effectively be

1758
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 4: a third Harbor cross and what would that unlock.

1759
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's a very good question. So at the moment,

1760
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 7: we certainly need it for resilience, that's the main driver.

1761
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 7: So obviously if our current aging nineteen sixties bridge has

1762
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 7: a moment, we don't want to be left without that

1763
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 7: crossing there because that would be a massive hit to

1764
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 7: the economy. So firstly, it's about addressing resilience, It all

1765
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 7: depends on where they put it where the second harbour

1766
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 7: crossing is. If it's just another bridge right next to

1767
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 7: the existing one, then beyond resilience, it's probably not going

1768
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 7: to unlock much because it won't deal to congestion. So

1769
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 7: we'd like to see it in another location up the harbor.

1770
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 7: We also get benefits of congestion reduction and more throughput

1771
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 7: going through the whole motorway network. So again it comes

1772
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 7: back to smart planning as to what benefit that's going

1773
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 7: to deliver.

1774
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Speaker 4: How would you feel about a nine dollar toll?

1775
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 7: I don't know about you, but I had a collective

1776
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 7: inhale of breath over on the north Shore when that

1777
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 7: number is floated today, Look what.

1778
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 4: About the principal justin of paying for something that we

1779
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 4: have already paid for in order to pay for something else.

1780
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a very good question. So look, I think

1781
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 7: it's about the reality is we have to pay for infrastructure.

1782
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 7: We've got to find creative ways to do it. Nine dollars.

1783
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 7: That number seems to have come from. I think they

1784
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 7: took the nineteen eighty four number and then and then

1785
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 7: added and flashing through to today. I actually remember being

1786
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 7: in the back seat of my father's Ford Falcon throwing

1787
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 7: the twenty cent piece in the hopper at the toll boots,

1788
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 7: but I don't remember Dad getting really angry about how

1789
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 7: much it costs. A nine dollars still seems quite a lot,

1790
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 7: but I think I think in reality, you know, you've

1791
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 7: got to land that sweet spot and a number that

1792
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 7: pays for the asset that you're building, but also doesn't

1793
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 7: drive distortions into the economy because these things can affect

1794
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 7: land prices, where people want to buy, where they want

1795
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 7: to work, So you've got to be really careful.

1796
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean do we I feel like what this

1797
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: is doing is it's seeding an idea, So I don't

1798
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 4: expect to see much actually come out of this, but

1799
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: it will seed some ideas that we will get used

1800
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 4: to and then eventually will become the reality. And will

1801
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 4: the reality not actually be in the future that every

1802
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 4: single new piece of infrastructure that we drive on we

1803
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: pay for in atop.

1804
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 7: Yes, I think certainly for the bigger state highway, big

1805
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 7: ticket items that's where we're heading and what we want

1806
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 7: from national road carriers is it's really important that the

1807
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 7: new infrastructure adds to productivity, So poohoy to walk with

1808
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 7: it's cut down fifteen minutes. Road freight operators absolutely love

1809
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 7: it because fifteen minutes doesn't sound like much, but that

1810
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,839
Speaker 7: translates into between that and the extension down towards Cambridge,

1811
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 7: that's nearly a billion dollars worth of improvement to the economy.

1812
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 7: So we're happy to pay for infrastructure that's going to

1813
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 7: deliver those productivity wins, make journey times sure, get goods

1814
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 7: out there through the economy more efficiently, and we recognize

1815
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 7: that we're going to have to pay, but you've got

1816
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 7: to pay at a reasonable amount that's not just going

1817
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 7: to add up to another increasing cost of goods because

1818
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 7: you and I end up paying for that at the shop.

1819
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 7: Transport operators don't pay for it, they pass it through

1820
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 7: to their customers, and you and I pay for it

1821
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 7: every time we go shopping.

1822
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 4: And such as life. Justin, thanks very much appreciated. Justin

1823
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 4: Ti Umbers, executive of the National Road Carriers Association, twenty

1824
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 4: away from seven for see Alan, I'm kind of a

1825
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,839
Speaker 4: little bit excited about what master Card reckons it did yesterday.

1826
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 4: Master Card reckons that it did the first AI agentic

1827
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 4: purchase in New Zealand. So basically it got the AI

1828
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 4: to do something, got the AI to buy some movie

1829
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 4: tickets and then also make a hotel reservation, and so

1830
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 4: it was one of those, you know, one of those ones.

1831
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 4: I'm assuming you type it and you go, AI, can

1832
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 4: you book me? You know a movie to go and see?

1833
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, obviously, just in this movie, I don't

1834
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 4: know the silky offer and pons and me next week

1835
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: blah blah. Quite I mean, I don't know. The one

1836
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 4: thing that Okay, there is an obvious problem, which we're

1837
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 4: going to get to in a second, but the first

1838
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 4: problem that occurs to me is that it just feels

1839
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 4: it feels like a fath having to try to explain

1840
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 4: to the AI what to do, because is that not

1841
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 4: your life if you're married, Like, do you not get

1842
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 4: to the point where you go, hey, could you just

1843
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 4: don't worry about it how to do it? And it's

1844
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 4: not You're not being a dick, You're just like, don't

1845
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 4: worry about it, I'll just do it. Because because we

1846
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 4: realize that by the time you've explained to the other

1847
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 4: person what you need to have done, you may as

1848
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 4: well just bloody do it. Yourself, right, And are you

1849
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 4: not going to get to that point where with AI,

1850
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 4: where you're like, oh, I can't be bothered having to

1851
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 4: input all and you're gonna come back to me with

1852
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 4: some stupid ideas and you're gonna think I'm gonna watch

1853
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 4: a movie in Wellington, but I live in Aukland, you know,

1854
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 4: and like, I just can't be bothered. I cannot be

1855
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 4: bothered trying to coordinate AI. But the other thing, which

1856
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 4: is probably more of it, that's just my own personal gripe.

1857
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 4: But the other thing that's an actual proper consideration is

1858
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 4: do you really want to be giving the AI your

1859
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 4: credit card number? Because I don't know about you, but

1860
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 4: that feels like it's a bit dodgy. So what they've

1861
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 4: done is that, and they've onto it obviously at MasterCard

1862
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 4: they realize that's the biggest obstacle, So that is tokenized.

1863
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 4: They are not getting you to give it the credit

1864
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 4: card details that they're using tokens, and the tokens are

1865
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 4: linked to your email address and somehow, through that very

1866
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 4: clever little system, you can buy the tickets without having

1867
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: to give it the credit card details. So maybe I

1868
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe there is a future there somewhere hither

1869
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 4: Instead of roads, why not invest in high speed rail.

1870
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 4: Imagine walking to the Wellington station, swiping on in them

1871
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 4: being in aucklandon two and a half hours. I can

1872
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 4: see that's exciting for Blair to be in aucklandon two

1873
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 4: and a half hours. Less so if everybody else to

1874
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 4: be in Wellington in two and a half hours. Because

1875
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 4: it brings me to the next thing that I want

1876
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: to talk about, which is a piece that has popped

1877
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,919
Speaker 4: up on stuff today asking the question about why Wellington

1878
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 4: well not even asking the question, just suggesting flat out

1879
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 4: Wellington should no longer be the capital of New Zealand.

1880
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 4: Now bear with me, because I know it's not going

1881
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 4: to happen. It's not gonna happen. You know, it's not

1882
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 4: gonna happen like Wellington's. We're stuck with Wellington until an

1883
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 4: earthquake takes it out. But that is the consideration you have.

1884
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 4: This is the capital, with all of the infrastructure of government,

1885
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 4: and you've got the bee Hive there and all the

1886
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 4: cabinet ministers and stuff can be taken out by an

1887
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 4: earthquake just like that. That is the first consideration. The

1888
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 4: second consideration it is as bloody difficult to get into

1889
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 4: Wellington on days like we've had in the last week

1890
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 4: while where it's extremely well windy, you couldn't even get

1891
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 4: the Wellington water boss and his deputy had to be

1892
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 4: holding the meeting. So this this particular reporter has punted

1893
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,959
Speaker 4: that what it should be is not Wellington but Hamilton.

1894
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: The reason it should be Hamilton, apparently, is because it's

1895
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 4: going to overtake Wellington as the third largest city. It's

1896
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 4: ninety minutes from both Auckland, which is the country's economic center,

1897
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 4: but also the largest port in the country. It's connected

1898
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 4: to both and to Wellington by rail. It can grow.

1899
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: This is Hamilton, It's airport can grow. The quake risk

1900
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 4: is really low and according to stuff what is also

1901
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 4: very important is that it's not just full of white

1902
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: people like Wellington is.

1903
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 10: Now.

1904
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 4: Obviously, as I say, we're not going to be doing this.

1905
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 4: This is just a journo who hasn't got enough work.

1906
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 4: At the moment, it was a bit bored and thought,

1907
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm going to come up with it.

1908
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put something out there that's a bit nutty.

1909
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 4: And it is a bit nutty only because we're not

1910
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 4: going to do it, but if you actually look at

1911
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 4: the arguments, might have been a better place to put

1912
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 4: the old capital rather than Wellington back in the day.

1913
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 4: Sixteen away from seven.

1914
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1915
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Maths, Insurance

1916
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: and investments in your futures in Good Hands News Talks,

1917
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: it'd be.

1918
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 4: Hey, Hea, the New Zealand's capital. She will actually be

1919
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 4: Sydney harsh. But you know we're all coming around to

1920
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 4: this idea, aren't we. Thirteen away from seven Indo Brady

1921
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 4: UK correspondence with us Hello, Enda.

1922
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 15: Hello Heather.

1923
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 18: I'm chuckling what I think the text in my.

1924
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 4: Gosh, I know it's the opposite. Do you know what's

1925
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 4: happening in New Zealand And you'll enjoy this. It's the

1926
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 4: opposite of declaring independence. We're actually trying to get Australia

1927
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 4: to absorb us so we can basically peggyback on their

1928
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 4: economic success story.

1929
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 18: Well we had that with the English, but it was

1930
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 18: the other way around. Everything we had they took.

1931
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 4: This is true, This is true. I hear you now.

1932
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Sarah ferguson the six companies getting wound up? Are they?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 18: So this is big news one half of England's happiest

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Speaker 18: divorced couple, as she calls her and Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 18: Newspapers today have it that there are six companies, all

1938
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 18: with the director as Sarah Ferguson, which are being wound down,

1939
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 18: So as of the end of next week they will

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Speaker 18: be struck off Companies House Register of all businesses in London.

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Speaker 18: It's not really clear what any of them do and

1942
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 18: all one is connected to p R, one is connected

1943
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Speaker 18: to retail, but the other four it's all a bit flimsy. Look,

1944
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 18: the woman has struggled with huge debt problems her whole life.

1945
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 18: And the latest tranche of the Epstein emails we see

1946
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 18: how desperate she was from money, emailing him while he

1947
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 18: was in prison, you know, complaining about everything financial, How

1948
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 18: worried she was, how stressed and exhausted she was. She

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01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 18: actually emailed a convicted pedophile in prison to tell him

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Speaker 18: that she was exhausted with stress. You couldn't make it up.

1951
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, how is the telegraph I see is crowing

1952
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 4: that the other ones who've basically formed forced Kiah Stama

1953
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Speaker 4: to abandon the plans to cancel the council elections.

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Speaker 12: Is this right?

1955
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Speaker 18: No, it's Nigel Farage who has done this. So Reform

1956
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 18: UK put in a legal case against the government the

1957
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 18: backdrop to all of this, and it does look bad

1958
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 18: for Starmar. They wanted to postpone some council elections in

1959
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 18: about thirty areas now they're due to happen in May,

1960
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 18: and some of these counts are going to be restructured,

1961
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 18: some of them are going to be collapsed and squeezed

1962
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 18: into other council areas. And council leaders were saying, well,

1963
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 18: we don't to go through the expense of hosting elections

1964
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 18: if this council is not going to exist in eighteen

1965
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Speaker 18: months time, and Starmer agreed. Now, the suspicion was he

1966
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,560
Speaker 18: agreed very quickly because the polling is absolutely terrible for

1967
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 18: Labor out there at the moment, and he knows that

1968
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 18: if Labor get a pasting in May, he'll be gone

1969
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 18: in June. So he said, let's postpone these elections then

1970
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 18: for a couple of years and see what the structure

1971
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 18: looks like. But ultimately it was Nigel Farage and Reform

1972
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 18: who put in a legal challenge. It was due to

1973
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 18: go to court this week and the government's lawyer came

1974
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 18: back with the advice saying, you just need to hold

1975
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 18: your hands up and abandon these plans because they're actually right.

1976
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Speaker 4: Yeah, quite right. Now, what is up with this eight

1977
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 4: hundred million dollar payment to the EU.

1978
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 18: Yes, so Britain famously no longer a member of the

1979
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,879
Speaker 18: European Union. However, Starmer went to the Munich's Security conference

1980
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 18: and clearly there's a lot of business to be done

1981
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 18: in uk in terms of an arms fund. So the

1982
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 18: European Union is looking to put together somewhere in the

1983
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 18: region of about five billion dollars worth of an arms

1984
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 18: fund for basically keeping Ukraine fighting, keeping everything going, and

1985
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 18: stopping Russia taking the whole country. And Britain has a

1986
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 18: lot of defense companies. So Brussels is saying to London, yep,

1987
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 18: if you want into this fund, you're not part of

1988
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 18: the European Union. Bi'll have to pay just short of

1989
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 18: eight hundred million dollars to get access to it, and

1990
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 18: then we will start offering you contracts. So yeah, the

1991
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 18: kind of thing Britain would not have had to pay

1992
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 18: for if it had stayed in the European Union.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, Linda, thank you as always appreciate it. We'll talk

1994
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 4: to you in a couple of days. Mate Into Brady

1995
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 4: UK correspondents Hither, I'm happy to pay a toll on

1996
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 4: new roads roads, but on the proviso that the roads

1997
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 4: are built by a foreign company that works twenty four

1998
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 4: to seven records, not Monday to Friday seven am to

1999
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 4: three pm, and it has a contracted finished date with

2000
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 4: penalties for late delivery and over budget. Anything done in

2001
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 4: New Zealand is overpriced and underdelivered. G's duals. Honestly, if

2002
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 4: we could get people to just work like a full day,

2003
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 4: the full shift, I think would all pay a little

2004
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 4: bit for that, wouldn't we? Nine away from seven It's the.

2005
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2007
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Speaker 4: Heather, I know you used to live in North Hamilton,

2008
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 4: but Hamilton as the capital is the same as the

2009
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,839
Speaker 4: idea that Wales people. It's just ridiculous now, it is ridiculous.

2010
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, if you're gonna choose it, if you're

2011
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 4: gonna if you're gonna get rid of Wellington as the capital,

2012
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 4: and you're gonna name somewhere else as the capital, it

2013
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 4: would have to be Auckland because because look, I know,

2014
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 4: don't do that thing. Don't do that thing. We aren't

2015
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 4: there everything. It's because everything should be in Auckland. Because

2016
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 4: actually we have spread way too far and wide across

2017
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 4: this country and we should all coalesce in a bunch

2018
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 4: of centers, and you need one big metropolitan, like one

2019
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 4: big global city, and then everything else can kind of

2020
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 4: run off that, and so you may as well just

2021
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 4: make it the capital.

2022
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Speaker 27: I just think though, in that article the justification for

2023
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 27: moving in out of Wellington was because I will lose

2024
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,839
Speaker 27: government in an earthquake. So when we move the beehive

2025
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 27: all the way up the country to Auckland and it's

2026
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 27: immediately destroyed in a volcanic eruption, look a lot more

2027
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 27: sort of. It's the only safe place in the whole country.

2028
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Speaker 4: It's closer to Taupo. If there's gonna be a volcanic eruption,

2029
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 4: Tawpo's taking it out.

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Speaker 27: I think we need to get volcanologists on the show.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of which, actually, do you know what I This

2032
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 4: popped up on the on one of the news websites

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01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 4: yesterday and I thought, yeah, I'm gotta have to talk

2034
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 4: about that at some stage. It's it's it was an

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01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 4: article about what to pack in your emergency grab and

2036
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 4: go backs because of all the weather stuff that's going

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01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 4: on at the moment. And it's weird because on Saturday

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01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 4: night the husband went to the rugby and so I

2039
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 4: had a whiskey and I had to do this, and

2040
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, fine, I'm going to finally do it,

2041
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 4: and I went online and bought a first aid kit

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01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 4: for the house, like a proper first aid kit with

2043
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 4: all the stuff. It's from Saint John. Actually, you know,

2044
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 4: you get the gloves and the scissors and like all

2045
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 4: the things you don't think you need until somebody's like

2046
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 4: properly bleeding out or something and then you need them. Anyways,

2047
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 4: I got one of those, and then I also got

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01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 4: a grab and go back from some supply that I

2049
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 4: by this that was at the end of the the

2050
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,759
Speaker 4: end of the whiskey. So we'll see when it arrives

2051
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 4: if it's it's actually bloody expensive though. It was like

2052
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 4: two hundred bucks, but it had all the like water

2053
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 4: purifiers in it and all the things that you're gonna

2054
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 4: need tortures FM batteries because don't forget that you need

2055
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 4: that need an FM radio. You need an FM radio

2056
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 4: that you have batteries for that you can wind up

2057
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 4: because if everything goes down, you're going to want to

2058
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 4: listen to news talks. Be we're going to tell you

2059
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 4: how to you know, how to get out of your situation. Anyway,

2060
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 4: when the bag arrives, i'll it.

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01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 27: You know, if it was any good, I think you've

2062
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 27: just jinxed us hither, but it we'll getting a volcanic

2063
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 27: eruption now and AWM, the day before the bag's due

2064
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 27: to arrive.

2065
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 4: Can you please stop talking about the bog you freak

2066
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 4: him out?

2067
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 27: Jail House rock vy Elvis Presley to play us out tonight.

2068
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 27: Bes Lumen says that he's working on a stage musical

2069
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 27: centered around Elvis Preservesly Baz Lumin's the one who made

2070
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 27: that bio pick from a few years ago. But yeah,

2071
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 27: he was being interview about it and someone said, oh, hey,

2072
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 27: is there a musical in the works, And he's like, well,

2073
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 27: I don't know if I'm suposed to announce it at

2074
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 27: this point, but yeah, there totally is. He says he's

2075
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 27: not going to be directly like directing it, but he's

2076
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 27: involved in it, so he's also keen to really to

2077
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 27: directors kind of the movie that's four hours long?

2078
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 4: So cool? Hey are you just when you turn your

2079
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 4: microphone off? Are you gonna run over and knock on

2080
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 4: some wood like you always? Absolutely?

2081
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 27: I think I can see the studio like you coat

2082
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 27: hanging from here.

2083
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 4: You better knock on a You better knock on that

2084
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 4: wood for a long time. Because you managed to mention

2085
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 4: the volcano twice.

2086
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 27: Okay, okay, so now it's my fault. It's not your

2087
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 27: fault for the grab bag.

2088
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 4: I didn't raise the volcano.

2089
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 7: You did.

2090
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 4: All right, we'll see it. Well, I'll let you know

2091
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 4: about the grab Dear God, please let those gray baggs

2092
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 4: a right tomorrow.

2093
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 3: I see it.

2094
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 4: Then new stigsed me shifting sand in the box for

2095
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 4: help and sake. The one's looking out and just to

2096
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 4: make a break to turn to shift down, said make next,

2097
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 4: I want to stingingle around a wile again, my chi.

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01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,760
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