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Speaker 1: Something that just has me reving at the moment what

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Speaker 1: feels like an infestation of flies. Doctor Paul Kredick is

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Speaker 1: a member of pm A and Z, which is the

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Speaker 1: pest control organization, and also a doctor of entomology, which

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Speaker 1: is the study of flies and insects and all things Crawley.

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Speaker 1: So am I dreaming or do we actually have increased

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Speaker 1: fly numbers at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Look, we've had a season where everything that flies like

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Speaker 2: has happened. Flies like it when it's damp and wet

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Speaker 2: and moist and humid, and also when it's nice and warm,

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Speaker 2: and if you haven't noticed, it's been both of those

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Speaker 2: things for quite an extended time over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of months. So flies are just going absolute gang bangers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, well we're bucking the trend today. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it has been relatively comfortable the past week. In particular,

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Speaker 1: I think we picture of the ones that is zipping

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Speaker 1: around our house and they're small and they're nimble. What

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Speaker 2: So those are probably what you do with just the

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Speaker 2: common house fly. So that's small fly. Hidhingman rules our

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Speaker 2: little backflips and all that sort of stuff, and is

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Speaker 2: all constantly sort of buzzing around your brand, of sinking

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Speaker 2: around your kitchen bench and around tables. That's something where

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Speaker 2: you're feeding and eaten where food might be so rubbish

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Speaker 2: bins and things like that. So they're very common and

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Speaker 2: they're kind of everywhere all the time, but this time

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Speaker 2: of year, with there's so many of them around, they're obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, much more, greater in numbers, and so you

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Speaker 2: sort of interact with them a lot more and they're

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Speaker 2: landing on you and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Actually that's what triggered this. So I was

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Speaker 1: sitting there yesterday, Young William was on the ground doing

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Speaker 1: this thing, and all of a sudden one of these

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Speaker 1: like when those kids from the World Vision ads, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, no, this is non We've got to do

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Speaker 1: something about this. I've resorted to swatting them with the

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Speaker 1: tea towel, which Am is not a big fan of.

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Speaker 1: With nappies, not soiled nappies as in the new ones

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Speaker 1: out of the pank, just because they're readily available. What

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Speaker 1: else what can help deter them?

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Speaker 2: Dr Paul, Well, if your first SIPs is just kind

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Speaker 2: of general hiding sort of stuff. Well, the reason why

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Speaker 2: they're coming inside there is something that smells night. So

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Speaker 2: in your case, it might the young lady neppy, or

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Speaker 2: it may just be the fact that you've got food

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Speaker 2: and put some pieces of rubbish and all that sort

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Speaker 1: The stuff that doesn't smell nice smells nice to them.

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Speaker 2: And you know, baby smell lovely, so they're just kind

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Speaker 2: of interested in that kind of thing. So it's just

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Speaker 2: kind of like a digital clean up, ending your rubbish,

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Speaker 2: thins and all that sort of stuff. And the other

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Speaker 2: thing is, because it's so many around, they're just constantly

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Speaker 2: coming in through your doors and windows. So you can

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Speaker 2: stop that. May either shut the doors and windows all

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Speaker 2: you know, old fashioned fly screens help and things like

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Speaker 2: ceiling fans and pedifil fans. Just pushing the air around,

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Speaker 2: which they don't like the moving air. They like it

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Speaker 2: in the house that night and still and they can

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Speaker 2: do that for you where you see them doing that

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Speaker 2: sort of lapse of the room, They just do a

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Speaker 2: certain in the middle of the room. Yes, yeah, so

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Speaker 2: if you get some get some airflow and pushing them around,

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Speaker 2: they won't like it, melt or move away and need

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Speaker 2: to move outside or move somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people suggest getting one of those automated

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Speaker 1: sprayer things. I'm not a big fan of that idea

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look, they sort of work. I mean the

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Speaker 2: one thing you've got to worry about those a little

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Speaker 2: bit as well as much well worry. It's just that

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Speaker 2: if you've got a lot of air flow and the

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Speaker 2: doing a huge amount because all that product that's been

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Speaker 2: So they do work kind of enclosed spaces and you know,

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Speaker 2: pretty well. But yeah, they're constantly giving a little puffins insecticide,

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Speaker 2: They're going to be careful for solvents and they can

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Speaker 1: About how you something I've been toying with, although Ambers

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Speaker 1: threatened chucking me outside if they bring them home because

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Speaker 1: they're so ugly, but they seem to work. I've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of mates that have it's a rather lude

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Speaker 1: way of describing them. Blocky rears. Kids are like they're

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Speaker 1: sticky condom things that you hang from the from the roof.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, the both work in a classic old flie

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Speaker 2: old fashion ones which you hang from the light in

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Speaker 2: stick them to the window and side. I mean they work.

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Speaker 2: They're just ugly.

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Speaker 1: You know, they will reduce to fly numbers, but okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean there are some other things you can do.

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Speaker 2: I mean the other things that that work is flies

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Speaker 2: use your imagination to understand what that might be outside. So,

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Speaker 2: particularly if you're living in a rural area, you're going

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. But you know, even urban area, if

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Speaker 2: and just essential because they're breeding outside stopping them from

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Speaker 2: coming towards your house or coming up. So there's things

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Speaker 2: a professional peace controller who will come in and if

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Speaker 2: you apply a spray product, does that work window frames?

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Speaker 2: And yes it does. So what they do is they

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Speaker 2: So when the flies land, which they typically do at

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Speaker 1: Oh so it actually knocks them off. It doesn't act

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Speaker 1: as a deterrent.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a force field. It will kill them

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Speaker 2: on contact, so they have to land on it, but

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Speaker 2: keep them from coming in. So you've still got to

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Speaker 2: do all those other sets. We talk about it as

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Speaker 2: being an integrated approach. What you're doing is you're doing

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of little steps cleaning up and you're

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Speaker 2: getting rid of the dog poo and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Plus a professional treatment and sands and flying screens,

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Speaker 2: and that will reduce the problem massly, but you've got

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Speaker 2: to kind of do every little step, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Need to teach Ellis how to pick up after scruffy gotcha?

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Speaker 1: Are flies really as ecky as we tend to think,

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Speaker 1: doctor Paul? For instance? You know when they land on

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Speaker 1: the bush and food, are they instantly soiling it?

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Speaker 2: Basically? Yes, The flies are well known and this has

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Speaker 2: been proven in all the literature that they can spread

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Speaker 2: what we call food borne illnesses. So these are all

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Speaker 2: the diseases, things like salmon aller and came for a

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Speaker 2: factor and things like that. Kills they're outside landing on

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Speaker 2: Scruffy's dog poo, having good old time, and then they

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Speaker 2: go straighten your window and they land on your son

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Speaker 2: total and straight away they're transferring bacteria and they're well

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Speaker 2: known for that. So that's why you're a food manufacturing

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Speaker 2: socilities do a lot of work to try and keep

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Speaker 2: because it is a real problem, definitely a problem. So

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're going any restaurant cafe and if

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Speaker 2: he flies buzzling around, you've probably got to think, oh

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Speaker 2: maybe I should go somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, they are there bad. Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to look forward to about the cool weather.

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Speaker 1: As they do seem to disappear, where do they go?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting I mean, flies are basically cold

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Speaker 2: nice and warm, they're very actively going around very fast.

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Speaker 2: As it gets cold or they slow right down. And

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Speaker 2: what will happen is, well, the adult flies they'll go

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Speaker 2: and hibernate somewhere. So they'll find a nice little time

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Speaker 2: and your hole and they'll sit in there and hybrid

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Speaker 2: it over the winter. Sometimes you find it when you

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Speaker 2: bring your firewood it and you pull your firewater butt.

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Speaker 2: You find this big slaggish fly kind of flapping around

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Speaker 2: inside the firewood. So that's just the adult flizerre essentially hibernating.

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Speaker 2: And then as winter whizign it comes in the spring,

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Speaker 2: and they start breeding.

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Speaker 1: The circle of life. It's been a fascinating chat about

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Speaker 1: flies and now expert this morning, as doctor Paul Kreti,

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Speaker 1: what do you appreciate your time?

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Speaker 2: No worry