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Speaker 1: Barriso for Senior political Correspondence with US. Now, hey Barry,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. The Prime Minister has been asked whether there'll

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Speaker 1: be a parade for the Olympians when they come back.

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Speaker 2: Will they What an amazing event the high jumping was,

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Speaker 2: I thought, in particular, I know the rowers and all

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Speaker 2: the rest of them were great, and of course we

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time watching them, and what I

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Speaker 2: loved was and I went back and looked at it

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Speaker 2: at the Fosbury flop that they all do, of course

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Speaker 2: now when they high jump, And I've got to say,

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Speaker 2: hither might surprise you. But I introduced the Fosbury flop

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Speaker 2: to Gore High School in the nineteen sixties and they

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Speaker 2: all thought I was nuts, as they did Dick Fosbury,

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Speaker 2: who won the gold medal at the Mexico Olympics in

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight, and they thought it was a gimmick

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Speaker 2: when he won that medal. This man was sort of

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Speaker 2: he never practiced, didn't do any practice for it. He

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Speaker 2: slept in his van. He was an engineer, yes he was,

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Speaker 2: and it's all about the center of gravity, and he

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Speaker 2: figured out that was the best way to achieve height

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Speaker 2: and of course after the scissors. The height that they

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Speaker 2: had now achieved is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: The scissors, well, this is what they used to do.

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Speaker 2: The scissors. You do one leg and then the other,

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Speaker 2: and that was the old jumping style. But you know

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Speaker 2: when you consider what they do now, when you think

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Speaker 2: of the height of a door in your house, they

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Speaker 2: go above that, quite a bit above that.

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Speaker 1: I mean crazy when you think about it, that these

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Speaker 1: guys are running up and basically jumping higher than their

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Speaker 1: own heights.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely curb Hamish Kurr is six foot six, I think,

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Speaker 2: and of course he's well and above well and truly

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Speaker 2: above that. It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, how to gore high? Then react to your

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Speaker 1: Fosbury flop?

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Speaker 2: Well to athletic school, because I was quite good at

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Speaker 2: not just jumping, jumping was wasn't my speciality. This Fostbury

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Speaker 2: flop was just being introduced, and I like the idea,

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Speaker 2: probably a bit of a show of and I did

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Speaker 2: it quite successfully, never quite achieved the heights that they

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Speaker 2: get to these days. But look, the idea of a

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Speaker 2: victory parade for our returning athletes dangling their medals was

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Speaker 2: floated with the Prime Minister this afternoon. But Chris lucks

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Speaker 2: and says that's not as easy as it sounds.

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Speaker 3: Many of them are actually going off around the world

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Speaker 3: for more competitions. Others are already here at home, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's really they don't all come back like a

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Speaker 3: rugby team together, and that many of them are based

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Speaker 3: overseas and heading back to their home bases as well,

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Speaker 3: so that may be a little difficult. There is opportunities

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Speaker 3: through the course of the year. I know we've got

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Speaker 3: an Olympic gala dinner towards the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: That'll be a great opportunity to do so. But you know, again,

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Speaker 3: I think, as I said, we should be incredibly proud.

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Speaker 3: I think all of us have tried to manage the

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Speaker 3: time zone and our work commitments and watch bits of

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Speaker 3: the Olympics as we can through the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's been incredible, hasn't it. You know, it's a great

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Speaker 2: time for New Zealand. I think this was so many

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Speaker 2: metals medals totally.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Hey, what about the beneficiary, So

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Speaker 1: what's brought not such a.

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Speaker 2: Great time for beneficiaries at the moment. No that this

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Speaker 2: traffic light system that'll come in effect from today, so

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Speaker 2: welfare beneficiaries they'll be contacted and they'll be told and

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Speaker 2: mainly there are people on jobs. The job seekers benefit

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Speaker 2: is not far shy of two hundred thousand people on

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Speaker 2: that and they'll be notified by the MSD to say

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Speaker 2: what where they are in the traffic like system and

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Speaker 2: you know it goes obviously from read through to green

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Speaker 2: all the other way. And of course there's this charge

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Speaker 2: card that fifty percent of your benefit can be controlled

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Speaker 2: and that was an act idea and they certainly have

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Speaker 2: been pushing that. But you know the number of people

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Speaker 2: on job seeker benefits, it's increased by seventy thousand under

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Speaker 2: the last government and the use of sanctions then basically

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Speaker 2: reduced quite significantly. Louise Upston, I know you're having her on,

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Speaker 2: she says, beneficiaries from today will be no doubt what

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Speaker 2: they have to do to keep the benefit.

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Speaker 4: This afternoon, those who are currently on red and Orange

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Speaker 4: will be notified and contacted by MST and then overcoming

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Speaker 4: days they'll be notified if they're at green. So the

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Speaker 4: process is for those who are at orange, they've got

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Speaker 4: five days and so that will absolutely kick off. But

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Speaker 4: if they're in Orange, then they've already been in a process.

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Speaker 4: They've already failed an obligation which they will be aware of.

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Speaker 4: But the traffic light system is making it much easier

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Speaker 4: for people to understand where they are and what they

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Speaker 4: need to do to fully comply.

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Speaker 2: And of course the political opponents have already come out.

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Speaker 2: The Greens were the first out of the starting blocks.

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Speaker 2: They said the government was quickly building a legacy of cruelty.

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Speaker 1: I just hope we don't go like I feel like

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Speaker 1: we are. I hope we don't go down this path

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Speaker 1: were we start getting all sooky on it and feeling

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Speaker 1: sorry for people are who are you know, squandering taxpayer money?

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Speaker 1: And then we force the government if a person.

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Speaker 2: Deserves a benefit, they deserve the benefit if they are

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Speaker 2: really in need. But if and there are are a

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Speaker 2: lot of going on, well we know there are the

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Speaker 2: linguages out there that are on benefits for many, many,

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Speaker 2: many years, and they don't need.

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Speaker 1: To be barry. Thank you appreciate it. By the way,

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Speaker 1: somebody said, if you were doing the Fosbury flop at

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Speaker 1: Gore High in nineteen sixty eight, you would have been

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Speaker 1: flopping onto sand, because that's what people saiss it onto?

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: That's right. It was that that was the problem with

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Speaker 2: the Fosbury flop, that.

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Speaker 1: You bang your head on set.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, you had you had to fall on a

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Speaker 2: certain way, you'd fall on your back, essentially on your

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Speaker 2: shoulders to roll over. And that's that was the initial problem,

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Speaker 2: and then it became universally adopted when they have explained

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Though, doesn't it constant head? Thank you, Barry, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Barry's for Senior Political Correspondence. Seven Away from five.

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