WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 09 August 2026 0:00:06.667 --> 0:00:10.427 You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 0:00:10.707 --> 0:00:16.387 from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names, 0:00:16.747 --> 0:00:21.827 the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations. 0:00:21.907 --> 0:00:24.787 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason. 0:00:24.507 --> 0:00:27.867 Vine and the DQ seven Dynamic Black Runout edition on 0:00:27.947 --> 0:00:30.187 Youth Talks EDB your home of sport. 0:00:30.787 --> 0:00:32.787 Hi Beck, You're to good afternoon. Welcome in to the 0:00:32.827 --> 0:00:35.507 Sunday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks ed by 0:00:35.627 --> 0:00:40.507 August nine, Happy birthday to my Dad. Happy eighty eighth 0:00:40.587 --> 0:00:45.027 birthday to Rod Laver. Happy one hundredth birthday to News 0:00:45.067 --> 0:00:49.027 Talks EDB. On August the ninth, nineteen twenty six, the 0:00:49.147 --> 0:00:51.667 ZB call sign was heard for the first time. Today 0:00:51.747 --> 0:00:54.787 and across August, we celebrate one hundred years of ZB, 0:00:54.947 --> 0:00:56.627 both on the air and online. We're going to mark 0:00:56.667 --> 0:01:01.267 the milestone in sporting terms. After two chat to our 0:01:01.307 --> 0:01:05.307 greatest ever Olympian, Dame Lisa Carrington about her career to date. 0:01:05.387 --> 0:01:08.227 In the future, she's about to become a mum, but 0:01:08.347 --> 0:01:10.987 still has eyes firmly on the twenty twenty eight Los 0:01:10.987 --> 0:01:15.227 Angeles Olympics. Also going to bring back the most iconic 0:01:15.347 --> 0:01:19.867 voice in sports coverage here on News Talks EDB the door. 0:01:19.947 --> 0:01:25.307 Yen of Radio Sports Broadcasting Murray Deeker is going to 0:01:25.347 --> 0:01:27.747 join us this afternoon as well, and across the show, 0:01:28.547 --> 0:01:30.867 I'd like to relive some of the great sporting moments 0:01:31.267 --> 0:01:33.387 of the last century. Keen to hear yours as well. 0:01:33.387 --> 0:01:36.947 Text them in nine two ninety two your greatest sporting 0:01:37.027 --> 0:01:40.707 memories of the last one hundred years. Former All Blacks 0:01:40.747 --> 0:01:43.307 captain Sam Kin going to lead us off today talking 0:01:43.347 --> 0:01:45.987 All Blacks v. South Africa and how we can beat them. 0:01:46.027 --> 0:01:50.787 Also a new concussion initiative that he's involved in Sam Caine. 0:01:50.827 --> 0:01:53.267 First up, there's a ran Furley Shield challenge and to 0:01:53.347 --> 0:01:56.947 need in this afternoon. Otago put the log on the 0:01:56.947 --> 0:01:59.667 line against Canterbury who they took it off last year. 0:02:00.187 --> 0:02:03.107 We'll get you inside the Otago camp and also in 0:02:03.147 --> 0:02:05.947 the Deep South the National Basketball League Final and in 0:02:06.387 --> 0:02:10.147 UGG a repeat of last year, Southland Sharks Wellington Saints 0:02:10.667 --> 0:02:12.347 going to cover that off as well. Please join the 0:02:12.347 --> 0:02:15.027 show at any time. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten 0:02:15.147 --> 0:02:17.387 eighty is the phone number nine two nine two for 0:02:17.427 --> 0:02:21.227 your text messages and in particular your best sporting moments. 0:02:21.227 --> 0:02:24.067 From the last one hundred years emails into Jason at 0:02:24.067 --> 0:02:27.867 Newstalk SEDB, dot co dot enz just got nine past midday. 0:02:28.347 --> 0:02:31.947 Pre one matters in Sport. We can sport with Jason 0:02:32.027 --> 0:02:35.387 Vine and the Audi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition 0:02:35.547 --> 0:02:37.627 available at your local Audi dealership. 0:02:37.787 --> 0:02:39.507 News Talks v Well. 0:02:39.547 --> 0:02:43.587 If anybody understands the cauldron and the physical nature of 0:02:43.707 --> 0:02:46.707 rugby tests in South Africa, it is former All Blacks 0:02:46.787 --> 0:02:47.987 captain Sam Kain. 0:02:48.307 --> 0:02:51.147 Aaron Smith Nice over the head pass from Barrett for 0:02:51.267 --> 0:02:53.467 Will Jordan right hand side of the park is the 0:02:53.547 --> 0:02:57.387 skip up Sam Kaine, right hand side the All Black school. 0:02:57.387 --> 0:03:00.427 At first try and look how much it means to them. 0:03:00.507 --> 0:03:03.547 But Sam Kaine also knows better than most the physical 0:03:03.707 --> 0:03:06.867 toll elite rugby can take. And now the former All 0:03:06.867 --> 0:03:10.307 Blacks captain and one hundred and five match All Blacks 0:03:10.347 --> 0:03:13.307 loose forward is lending his support to a New Zealand 0:03:13.347 --> 0:03:17.267 developed initiative aimed at improving the way concussion is managed 0:03:17.547 --> 0:03:20.987 at every level of the game. He has become an 0:03:21.027 --> 0:03:26.507 ambassador for hit Kit, a rapid response concussion kit created 0:03:26.547 --> 0:03:30.587 by concussion specialist and founder of the Headache Clinic Helen 0:03:30.667 --> 0:03:34.747 to FUI to help players, coaches, and families navigate the 0:03:34.787 --> 0:03:39.467 crucial first seventy two hours after a suspected head knock 0:03:39.787 --> 0:03:42.627 at any level of the game. Sam King's with us. 0:03:42.747 --> 0:03:44.587 Good afternoon, Sam, Thanks for your time, mate. What was 0:03:44.627 --> 0:03:48.227 it about hit kit and helen to Fui's work that 0:03:48.347 --> 0:03:49.667 made you want to get involved? 0:03:50.427 --> 0:03:53.067 Hey, Pini, thanks having me on. You summarized it all 0:03:53.067 --> 0:03:55.587 pretty well there in the intro. But the reason I 0:03:55.627 --> 0:03:58.507 wanted to get involved, and it was purely just because 0:03:58.507 --> 0:04:01.307 I saw the work. I saw what she had created 0:04:01.307 --> 0:04:04.147 and literally just flipped a message and said, well done, 0:04:04.907 --> 0:04:07.307 I'm right imagine this is going to have a really 0:04:07.467 --> 0:04:11.187 positive impact on the community game and good on you 0:04:11.267 --> 0:04:15.027 for creating it. And she messaged back saying thank you. 0:04:15.667 --> 0:04:18.787 Would you like to be involved in helping get it 0:04:18.787 --> 0:04:22.267 out there? And I just thought, yeah, it's a great opportunity. 0:04:23.107 --> 0:04:26.867 You know, I'm happy to do my partner help try 0:04:26.907 --> 0:04:28.867 and promote it and get it out there and hopefully 0:04:29.867 --> 0:04:32.307 you get to a stage where sort of every rugby 0:04:32.347 --> 0:04:34.867 team in New Zealand, right from junior foot all the 0:04:34.867 --> 0:04:38.067 way up, has one on the sideline in case something happens. 0:04:38.467 --> 0:04:42.227 Throughout your rugby career. How much did your understanding of 0:04:42.347 --> 0:04:45.987 concussion change from when you first started playing to when 0:04:46.027 --> 0:04:47.987 you well, I mean you're still playing, But how much 0:04:48.027 --> 0:04:50.227 has it changed across your career. 0:04:50.947 --> 0:04:54.707 Yeah, it's changed a lot, for sure, and it will 0:04:54.787 --> 0:04:56.507 change a lot in the next ten years too. I 0:04:56.547 --> 0:05:00.467 think even from when I started out, there was still 0:05:00.467 --> 0:05:05.227 protocols in place, but just our level of understanding of 0:05:05.267 --> 0:05:09.347 it has increased massively, and I think there's been real 0:05:09.387 --> 0:05:12.467 positive steps in the professional game. And we are lucky 0:05:12.547 --> 0:05:16.707 because we've got medical experts on hand to help us 0:05:17.027 --> 0:05:21.867 and navigate the recovery process and make sure we're fairly 0:05:21.867 --> 0:05:25.827 well looked after. But get the community game often rely 0:05:25.987 --> 0:05:28.707 on volunteers and parents to do their best, and the 0:05:28.907 --> 0:05:32.627 kit just allows them like peace of mind with some 0:05:32.667 --> 0:05:35.347 real clear guidelines around what to do. 0:05:35.827 --> 0:05:38.067 And that's all you. 0:05:38.027 --> 0:05:40.067 Want for those semi two hours is to know that 0:05:40.067 --> 0:05:43.187 you've done everything you can to he upset someone up 0:05:43.227 --> 0:05:44.187 for a full recovery. 0:05:44.707 --> 0:05:47.307 It's a physical sport, it's a contact sport. That's the 0:05:47.347 --> 0:05:49.747 attraction for a lot of people who get involved in it. 0:05:50.067 --> 0:05:53.467 How difficult is it as a player to admit that 0:05:53.507 --> 0:05:55.427 you've taken a knock to their head when your instinct 0:05:55.587 --> 0:05:56.347 is just to stay on. 0:05:57.587 --> 0:06:00.947 Well, I think there's two different knocks. If someone's taken 0:06:01.187 --> 0:06:04.507 a bad one, sometimes they're not actually aware that they're 0:06:04.547 --> 0:06:07.107 not quite right, and that's where you you do rely 0:06:07.187 --> 0:06:10.947 on teammates, you know, people on the sideline to pick 0:06:10.987 --> 0:06:13.867 those sort of things up. And then there's other knocks 0:06:13.867 --> 0:06:18.827 where you're not sure or you always you say you 0:06:18.867 --> 0:06:21.427 do know you're not quite right, but you know part 0:06:21.467 --> 0:06:24.027 of you may want to try and carry on, and 0:06:24.067 --> 0:06:30.987 it's it's almost an embedded into the rugby culture over years. 0:06:30.987 --> 0:06:32.627 You know, like if you're a little bit injured you 0:06:32.707 --> 0:06:35.507 can still play on, then stay on from back in 0:06:35.587 --> 0:06:38.427 the days when you know a player would never go 0:06:38.467 --> 0:06:42.347 off and give someone on the bench an opportunity. When 0:06:42.347 --> 0:06:45.427 it comes to hid knock, the bravest and the most 0:06:45.427 --> 0:06:47.307 grateous thing you can do is put your hand up 0:06:47.347 --> 0:06:51.307 and say no, I'm not quite right and take yourself off. 0:06:51.347 --> 0:06:56.867 Because we know from studies it's like one taking a 0:06:56.947 --> 0:07:00.787 knock is one thing, but it's to take two blows 0:07:00.787 --> 0:07:04.827 in one game can can be a lot worse. So look, 0:07:04.827 --> 0:07:08.067 there's been twice think in my career where I've taken 0:07:08.107 --> 0:07:10.347 a knock, tried to play on for a couple of 0:07:10.347 --> 0:07:12.787 minutes and realized I'm not quite right and put my 0:07:12.827 --> 0:07:15.147 hand up and taken myself off the field. 0:07:15.707 --> 0:07:19.347 Yes, Do you think attitudes among players have changed, have 0:07:19.467 --> 0:07:22.747 genuinely changed or is there still a bit of a 0:07:22.787 --> 0:07:25.387 tendency to as you say, of you know, I'm okay, 0:07:25.387 --> 0:07:27.507 I've taken ahead, I'll play on. Do you think there's 0:07:27.507 --> 0:07:31.187 still a tendency to downplay concussion symptoms in some areas 0:07:31.267 --> 0:07:32.907 or has there been major improvement. 0:07:33.707 --> 0:07:37.987 There's definitely been major improvement. Like it's really hard to 0:07:38.027 --> 0:07:40.227 speak on behalf of everyone, but I know a lot 0:07:40.307 --> 0:07:44.507 personally my attitudes towards it, certainly in the probably second 0:07:44.507 --> 0:07:49.427 half of my career, having seen teammates have had to 0:07:49.427 --> 0:07:54.627 retire from it. And then, yeah, I suppose I'm a 0:07:54.707 --> 0:07:57.787 sort of bit of a low key advocate, Like if 0:07:57.827 --> 0:07:59.747 I see someone take a knock, I'll be one of 0:07:59.747 --> 0:08:03.107 the first to check in and make sure they ride 0:08:03.347 --> 0:08:06.147 or alert someone from the sideline. So I think it 0:08:06.147 --> 0:08:10.267 has change. It It's always difficult because some players are 0:08:11.307 --> 0:08:13.907 at different stages of their careers. They might be playing 0:08:13.947 --> 0:08:16.907 for an opportunity they've just got an opportunity or playing 0:08:16.907 --> 0:08:19.427 for a contract with all these sort of things, and that's 0:08:21.587 --> 0:08:25.987 where things can be harder for some people. But the 0:08:26.027 --> 0:08:29.907 more education that we've got out there, the more awareness 0:08:30.027 --> 0:08:34.907 and we create around it, then hopefully we'll continue to 0:08:34.987 --> 0:08:35.907 trend in the right direction. 0:08:36.587 --> 0:08:39.427 I know every parent listening and you're probably the same. 0:08:39.467 --> 0:08:40.867 You know, you want the best for your kids and 0:08:40.907 --> 0:08:44.467 you don't want to put them into into potentially perilous situations, 0:08:44.507 --> 0:08:46.387 but you want them to get involved in sport, and 0:08:46.707 --> 0:08:50.227 rugby is a massive part of our sporting culture. Parents 0:08:50.227 --> 0:08:53.667 I know can sometimes struggle with the decision of whether 0:08:53.667 --> 0:08:56.067 their child should even play rugby or return to the 0:08:56.067 --> 0:08:58.427 sport after they've taken a knock. What is your message 0:08:58.467 --> 0:09:00.747 to rugby mums and dads. 0:09:03.067 --> 0:09:06.107 Well, it's such an amazing sport. Well, sport in general 0:09:06.227 --> 0:09:11.667 is great, but the camaraderie that you get from rugby, 0:09:11.747 --> 0:09:17.867 the all the life lessons you learn, like there's you 0:09:17.907 --> 0:09:22.427 could go mountain biking, you know, all these different supports 0:09:22.467 --> 0:09:24.187 and there's always an element of risk and you know 0:09:24.267 --> 0:09:26.827 that and that's part of it what makes it fun 0:09:26.827 --> 0:09:30.467 also as well. But I think when it comes to 0:09:30.507 --> 0:09:35.067 the concussion where people shouldn't be scared off by it 0:09:35.147 --> 0:09:41.827 because a large number of cases suffering a concussion, as 0:09:41.827 --> 0:09:45.907 long as that's treated well, it's like any other injury 0:09:46.307 --> 0:09:48.827 your body will make a can make a full recovery. 0:09:49.347 --> 0:09:51.147 And that's the importance of the hit KAT is that 0:09:51.787 --> 0:09:54.627 the first seventy two ours is really important. There's clear 0:09:54.667 --> 0:09:59.547 guidelines and if someone does stuff for a concussion and 0:09:59.667 --> 0:10:01.747 you look after them well, then there's no reason why 0:10:01.787 --> 0:10:05.467 they won't make a full recovery. So although it's never 0:10:05.627 --> 0:10:10.627 nice seeing a concussion or someone affected by a blow 0:10:10.707 --> 0:10:14.627 like that, it's it can as long as it's treated, 0:10:14.867 --> 0:10:17.667 then there's a good chance everyone makes a full recovery. 0:10:19.547 --> 0:10:21.387 I'd hate for it to be the reason it scares 0:10:21.427 --> 0:10:26.587 people off, because the risks that are involved are far 0:10:26.707 --> 0:10:31.467 outweighed by the benefits and the growth that someone is 0:10:31.627 --> 0:10:33.747 likely to get as long as they fall in love 0:10:33.747 --> 0:10:35.747 with the game, that's the main thing. As a perio, 0:10:35.787 --> 0:10:38.187 I just want my kids to be able to fall 0:10:38.227 --> 0:10:41.547 in love with something a sport, an activity, or hobby 0:10:41.587 --> 0:10:46.147 and just really really go after it. And if their kids, 0:10:46.427 --> 0:10:51.787 if that's rugby for their kids, then yes, there's risks involved. Absolutely, 0:10:51.907 --> 0:10:55.627 but there's so much, so many benefits as well. 0:10:55.587 --> 0:10:57.587 Well said Mate, well said, and Kit, I think it's 0:10:57.587 --> 0:11:00.747 going to have a huge, hugely positive effect, as you say, 0:11:00.787 --> 0:11:04.067 on the first seventy two hours after a head not mate, 0:11:04.067 --> 0:11:06.947 while I've got your speaking of physical challenges in South Africa, 0:11:06.987 --> 0:11:08.627 the All Black's over there at the moment you played 0:11:08.627 --> 0:11:11.387 them sixteen times I think in test matches, were they 0:11:11.547 --> 0:11:13.747 genuinely the most physically challenging for you? 0:11:16.147 --> 0:11:20.227 He probably consistently the most physically challenging. I mean, like 0:11:20.267 --> 0:11:22.587 we had periods the earlier in my career, we had 0:11:22.627 --> 0:11:24.587 some really good wins over them, you know, like that, 0:11:24.747 --> 0:11:28.267 so they're not I think that at the start of 0:11:28.307 --> 0:11:30.667 the games, like what the All Blacks are trying to play, 0:11:30.747 --> 0:11:34.107 getting back to sort of our world call our rugby DNA, 0:11:34.147 --> 0:11:37.507 a little bit of faster tempo and trying to bring 0:11:37.507 --> 0:11:41.187 a bit of fatigue back into the game. The sound 0:11:41.267 --> 0:11:43.307 friends are like anyone to say, say, get a bit 0:11:43.347 --> 0:11:46.467 of fatigue, then the physicality drops off as well. So 0:11:47.547 --> 0:11:49.747 a key a key for us, I think, and hopefully 0:11:49.787 --> 0:11:52.827 the officials allow a free flying game one of obviously, 0:11:52.827 --> 0:11:56.307 I guess the saums wasn't like that, so it doesn't 0:11:56.307 --> 0:11:58.547 really allow the fatigue to creep in quite the same. 0:12:00.587 --> 0:12:03.107 But yeah, there physical budget a lot even you know, 0:12:04.827 --> 0:12:12.907 just yeah, kia human that's again, aren't they And it's 0:12:12.227 --> 0:12:17.787 as those close quarters you know, collectively, size does matter. 0:12:18.067 --> 0:12:21.027 So yeah, it's a good challenge though, like I used 0:12:21.027 --> 0:12:23.307 to love playing cert Aficans, there's. 0:12:23.107 --> 0:12:25.227 Always this talk about playing at altitude as well, you know, 0:12:25.387 --> 0:12:27.187 we've got to play at altitude that's going to be 0:12:27.307 --> 0:12:29.467 has to be a lot harder, is that true? 0:12:30.947 --> 0:12:35.787 It is a lot harder. Absolutely. It's the first time 0:12:35.827 --> 0:12:38.027 you play there, I reckon that really catches you off 0:12:38.027 --> 0:12:42.107 guard because you've never experienced anything like it. You feel unfit, Yeah, 0:12:42.227 --> 0:12:45.467 throats burning, and you're just wondering if you're going to 0:12:45.467 --> 0:12:47.107 be able to get through. But it's like a thing 0:12:47.187 --> 0:12:50.307 hard once you've done it once before, you push through, 0:12:50.387 --> 0:12:54.427 you know what you're capable of. So I experienced a 0:12:54.427 --> 0:12:58.187 few times both that almost quite enjoyed playing there because 0:12:59.027 --> 0:13:01.467 you knew it was going to get hard, but you 0:13:01.547 --> 0:13:04.907 knew you could push through. And it's not. Well, the 0:13:04.907 --> 0:13:08.867 South Africans are immune to outsitude either. There's only a 0:13:08.907 --> 0:13:13.347 small group of them that actually live at altitude. You know, 0:13:13.827 --> 0:13:15.947 a lot of them don't even live in South Africa 0:13:16.107 --> 0:13:18.827 these days, play there rugby in Japan or around the world. 0:13:18.907 --> 0:13:22.667 So I don't personally, I don't see it a big, 0:13:24.987 --> 0:13:28.187 big advantage to them playing at outitude, And if anything, 0:13:28.507 --> 0:13:30.947 it may allow a little bit more fatigued to creep 0:13:30.947 --> 0:13:32.747 into the game in the sort of the last ten 0:13:32.907 --> 0:13:36.347 minutes of each half. And you know, as all boats 0:13:36.347 --> 0:13:39.027 were try and back ourselves and to execute in those 0:13:39.067 --> 0:13:46.907 moments when keep going. So yeah, it's hard, but as lively. 0:13:47.387 --> 0:13:49.067 Yeah, and you were part of a lot of memorable 0:13:49.107 --> 0:13:52.267 All Blacks ones in South Africa. Here at World Cups, 0:13:52.627 --> 0:13:55.307 is there one performance, one All Blacks performance that sort 0:13:55.307 --> 0:13:58.227 of stands out as the blueprint for how to beat them? 0:13:58.227 --> 0:13:59.267 Particularly over there. 0:13:59.267 --> 0:14:07.987 Perhaps we had a lot of year You're right, we 0:14:07.987 --> 0:14:10.427 had some really good wins and a lot of them involved. 0:14:10.627 --> 0:14:12.987 Some of them were at Alice Park, which is at altitude. 0:14:13.987 --> 0:14:15.747 We'll probably the most of the ones that stick outer 0:14:15.787 --> 0:14:20.307 at altitude actually, and the same thing, like you'd finished 0:14:20.307 --> 0:14:22.747 the game, or we'd have photos and the theme room 0:14:22.787 --> 0:14:26.747 of previous teams and we'd acknowledge teams that had gone 0:14:26.827 --> 0:14:30.267 before they'd finish the game and just pure exhaustion, like guys, 0:14:31.787 --> 0:14:36.307 hands on knees, crouched over and just reminds you of 0:14:36.667 --> 0:14:39.587 how deep you have to push yourself to win there. 0:14:39.987 --> 0:14:43.627 But I bit to your question around the blueprint, it's 0:14:43.667 --> 0:14:46.507 as if we're it's if we're able to move the ball. 0:14:47.587 --> 0:14:49.867 As you said, that bigger a little bit, bigger bodies, 0:14:49.867 --> 0:14:52.867 So if we can keep them, keep them moving, keep 0:14:52.867 --> 0:14:57.707 the ball in play, minimis of downtime. And I think 0:14:57.787 --> 0:15:00.947 that that plays into our hands a little bit, a 0:15:00.987 --> 0:15:04.147 little bit of variation with how we play our kicking game. 0:15:05.787 --> 0:15:08.707 If the deep the defense is coming up hard in 0:15:08.707 --> 0:15:11.147 the midfield, we've had a bit of success with some 0:15:11.787 --> 0:15:18.587 kicks in behind. So yeah, up teno the blueprint, I think, 0:15:18.947 --> 0:15:24.187 But it's a Reliza webent on the officials as well. 0:15:24.907 --> 0:15:28.387 Yes, yes, you're right there, you're right there. How's everything 0:15:28.427 --> 0:15:29.667 going in Japan? You enjoying it? 0:15:30.547 --> 0:15:34.147 Yeah, Yeah, it's been good. It's a soft season at 0:15:34.187 --> 0:15:37.427 the moments back in New Zealand, but you head back 0:15:37.427 --> 0:15:41.067 in about three weeks to start pre season and we're 0:15:41.067 --> 0:15:42.707 at three and a half months of pre season in 0:15:42.747 --> 0:15:45.427 the heat. But yeah, one more year on my contact 0:15:45.427 --> 0:15:48.707 over there, and we'll see we might be certainly getting 0:15:48.707 --> 0:15:49.427 closer to the end. 0:15:50.147 --> 0:15:51.707 All right, we'll keep tabs on that. I've kept you 0:15:51.747 --> 0:15:54.667 from your family for long enough. Sam, Congratulations on your 0:15:54.667 --> 0:15:57.027 involvement in hit Kit. I know it's going to have 0:15:57.027 --> 0:16:00.827 a hugely positive impact on a lot of families around 0:16:00.867 --> 0:16:02.787 the country. Thanks for joining us, made always good chat. 0:16:03.307 --> 0:16:06.027 Thanks finally, thanks for thanks for giving me on to 0:16:06.067 --> 0:16:08.307 chat about it. As you say, I think it can 0:16:08.347 --> 0:16:11.107 really do some awesome stuff and hopefully in sort of 0:16:11.147 --> 0:16:13.107 five years time, it's one of those things that's sort 0:16:13.147 --> 0:16:16.027 of up there beside the first aid kits for most families. 0:16:16.067 --> 0:16:17.627 So yeah, thanks mate, No. 0:16:17.627 --> 0:16:20.707 Thank you, mate, Sam kan joining us on News TALKSB 0:16:20.907 --> 0:16:26.187 and Weekend Sport. Hit Kit is a rapid response concussion 0:16:26.307 --> 0:16:30.747 kit developed by concussion expert Helen Tofui, designed to support 0:16:30.787 --> 0:16:33.307 the critical first seventy two hours after a head injury 0:16:33.507 --> 0:16:37.107 at any level. 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Sam Kaine is also 0:17:19.347 --> 0:17:20.947 our lines open by the way O eight hundred and 0:17:20.987 --> 0:17:22.827 eighty ten eighty, as though always are. Sam Kaine is 0:17:22.867 --> 0:17:25.947 also they're giving us the blueprint for beating the spring box. 0:17:26.427 --> 0:17:30.947 Just run them around, run those big buggers around, get 0:17:30.987 --> 0:17:36.307 them tired, induce fatigue. That's how we do it. And thankfully, 0:17:37.307 --> 0:17:41.187 Dave any strategy is based on that. Optimism has been 0:17:41.227 --> 0:17:44.227 the catch cry, hasn't it for Dave Renie's All Blacks, 0:17:44.307 --> 0:17:48.507 Quick rock ball, moving it through the hands, getting it wide, 0:17:48.547 --> 0:17:51.627 finding space. As Sam mentioned there, and he can perhaps 0:17:51.627 --> 0:17:53.147 do this now that he's not on the All Blacks. 0:17:53.147 --> 0:17:56.027 It does rely a little bit on the officials, and 0:17:56.147 --> 0:18:02.467 yesterday in the two opener, there wasn't exactly an officiating 0:18:02.507 --> 0:18:05.227 team that wanted the game to flow necessarily in that game. 0:18:05.227 --> 0:18:07.467 I think that's fair to say. Hopefully it'll be better 0:18:07.467 --> 0:18:11.427 in the Test matches. But I feel after hearing Sam 0:18:11.507 --> 0:18:14.107 Kane talk one hundred test All Black former captain talk 0:18:14.107 --> 0:18:15.667 about how you do it and he won a lot 0:18:15.707 --> 0:18:19.187 of Test matches over there. I crunch the numbers on 0:18:19.267 --> 0:18:23.187 Sam Kine ahead of that interview. He played against South 0:18:23.187 --> 0:18:26.707 Africa sixteen times, won ten of them, and seven of 0:18:26.747 --> 0:18:29.627 those games he played against them more in South Africa 0:18:29.667 --> 0:18:32.787 and he won four, so he was more often a 0:18:32.827 --> 0:18:35.467 winner in South Africa than he was on the losing side. 0:18:36.867 --> 0:18:39.707 I feel a lot more optimistic. How optimistic do you 0:18:39.747 --> 0:18:44.267 feel about this upcoming Test series? Yesterday we spoke about 0:18:44.267 --> 0:18:46.507 it about yesterday's game. We can touch on that but 0:18:46.867 --> 0:18:49.987 tonight at around ten o'clock. The side to face the 0:18:50.027 --> 0:18:52.667 Sharks in Durban Wednesday morning is named by Dave Rennie, 0:18:53.067 --> 0:18:55.587 so we'll have I think it will almost completely changed side. 0:18:55.667 --> 0:18:57.347 We'll find out now. I think we can all pretty 0:18:57.387 --> 0:19:00.427 much name it the shadow side for these Test matches. 0:19:00.427 --> 0:19:01.947 That's what he's going to put out against the Sharks 0:19:01.947 --> 0:19:05.387 in Durban on Wednesday. So if you want to kick 0:19:05.427 --> 0:19:07.747 around the rugby we can oh eight hundred eighty ten 0:19:07.867 --> 0:19:09.867 eighty nine two nine two is our text line. You 0:19:09.907 --> 0:19:13.667 can also send through your favorite sporting moments in the 0:19:13.707 --> 0:19:16.627 last one hundred years. As ZEB celebrates its one hundredth 0:19:16.667 --> 0:19:20.187 birthday Today twelve twenty six lines open back with your calls. 0:19:20.227 --> 0:19:21.467 Next on Weekend Sport. 0:19:21.747 --> 0:19:24.107 The scoreboard only tells half the story. 0:19:24.267 --> 0:19:28.187 Piney tells the rest Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and 0:19:28.267 --> 0:19:31.347 the out e Q seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition Test 0:19:31.427 --> 0:19:33.867 Drive Today News Talks eNB. 0:19:33.907 --> 0:19:36.347 Twelve twenty nine on News Talks Ebagetti calls in a moment, 0:19:36.387 --> 0:19:39.067 But as we celebrate one hundred years of ZEB, we're 0:19:39.067 --> 0:19:42.027 remembering some of the great moments of sport from the 0:19:42.107 --> 0:19:46.267 last century. Three Rugby World Cup wins for the All 0:19:46.267 --> 0:19:48.907 Blacks nineteen eighty seven in Auckland. 0:19:49.467 --> 0:19:53.387 The game is all over and the All Blacks have 0:19:53.467 --> 0:19:56.347 won this match against the franch by twenty nine points 0:19:56.347 --> 0:19:59.347 to nine, and the All Blacks become the first holders 0:19:59.587 --> 0:20:01.627 of the William Ware Allis Trophy. 0:20:01.387 --> 0:20:02.667 The Rugby World Cup. 0:20:02.947 --> 0:20:07.787 They are supreme in world rugby. Let's have beaten France 0:20:07.867 --> 0:20:08.387 in the final. 0:20:08.467 --> 0:20:12.187 Here John Macbeth on the call there twenty eleven in Auckland. 0:20:12.267 --> 0:20:13.627 The game is over. 0:20:15.387 --> 0:20:19.427 New Zealand nights France seven New Zealand. 0:20:20.067 --> 0:20:22.507 The Rugby World Cup Chapions top. 0:20:22.427 --> 0:20:23.747 Two thousand and eleven. 0:20:24.507 --> 0:20:27.747 Nigel Yolden that time PJ. Montgomery was on the sideline 0:20:27.747 --> 0:20:29.947 with Graham Henry afterwards in the World. 0:20:29.707 --> 0:20:31.547 Cup beater to be already tapped in it. 0:20:32.027 --> 0:20:33.747 So that's a huge game of rugby. 0:20:34.427 --> 0:20:37.667 And now guys am just hanging there into the business. 0:20:37.787 --> 0:20:39.587 And what did you think when you had to put 0:20:39.627 --> 0:20:40.227 Donald on? 0:20:40.707 --> 0:20:41.787 Goodness gracious? 0:20:42.507 --> 0:20:43.307 Then he play well. 0:20:43.507 --> 0:20:47.187 The atmosphere down here on the floor of Eden Park. 0:20:47.107 --> 0:20:48.387 Is quite extraordinary. 0:20:48.667 --> 0:20:51.307 I've been on the touch line for many many years 0:20:51.307 --> 0:20:53.547 now but experience nothing. 0:20:53.347 --> 0:20:56.227 Like this PJ. And then of course twenty fifteen at 0:20:56.267 --> 0:20:58.307 Twickenham with Nigel back on the mic. 0:20:58.187 --> 0:21:00.667 Bolly to Bill, Bill trying to get to the outside, 0:21:00.707 --> 0:21:01.307 cuts it back. 0:21:01.467 --> 0:21:02.067 Let's take it. 0:21:02.267 --> 0:21:05.267 Bit Smith, Smith steps still stepping bit Smith. 0:21:05.427 --> 0:21:07.307 Now he tucks the foot race. 0:21:07.627 --> 0:21:09.987 Bonet parrot, bonet parrot. 0:21:10.227 --> 0:21:12.307 Does it set up? He tries to tow it on 0:21:12.667 --> 0:21:16.627 that that's up. There's no try that tries the World. 0:21:16.387 --> 0:21:20.627 Cup winner bone it parrots turnover ball. 0:21:20.827 --> 0:21:23.907 Oh blacks linked in the field, rap it up, but 0:21:24.147 --> 0:21:24.947 a bow on it? 0:21:25.187 --> 0:21:26.387 World Chump's coming back? 0:21:26.427 --> 0:21:27.147 Did you fail it? 0:21:28.227 --> 0:21:32.467 Oh not? It's so good, so good. The goose bumps 0:21:32.507 --> 0:21:36.067 from back then, absolutely brilliant. Just a couple of texts 0:21:36.067 --> 0:21:39.947 on the concussion situation before we go to the lines 0:21:40.187 --> 0:21:42.067 mass power at Piney. This is a million miles away 0:21:42.067 --> 0:21:44.507 from my playing days, where all we had was smelling 0:21:44.547 --> 0:21:46.387 salts and it was a badge of honor to carry 0:21:46.427 --> 0:21:48.707 on playing. And it was funny you couldn't remember half 0:21:48.747 --> 0:21:51.107 the game. I'm glad things have changed. Me too, mus 0:21:51.107 --> 0:21:52.987 me too. Get a Piney says this one. If I'm 0:21:53.027 --> 0:21:54.747 not sure if you're wanting a full debate on concussion, 0:21:54.747 --> 0:21:57.747 but there is some pretty clear evidence that's been done, 0:21:57.827 --> 0:22:01.267 or clear evidence based research that's been done that states 0:22:01.267 --> 0:22:05.547 CT is caused by numerous non concussive head knocks. Rugby, 0:22:05.627 --> 0:22:09.347 NRL football, NFL all have an issue. Because of the 0:22:09.427 --> 0:22:12.907 number of non concussive hits a player gets from the 0:22:12.947 --> 0:22:16.027 ages of ten to eighteen, it means they're already well 0:22:16.027 --> 0:22:18.707 down the path by the time they make it into 0:22:18.707 --> 0:22:22.787 the big time. Yeah, it's certainly an issue. Certainly an 0:22:22.907 --> 0:22:25.187 issue to deal with. Lines are open on news talks 0:22:25.187 --> 0:22:26.787 here B twenty eight to one. Get the Chris. 0:22:27.867 --> 0:22:28.387 Yeah, mate. 0:22:29.427 --> 0:22:33.507 One of my favorite sport memories is Team New zeal 0:22:33.547 --> 0:22:35.667 And picking up the Ausies where they're boat sank. 0:22:37.707 --> 0:22:40.867 Yes, yes that yeah, the boat that just sunk to 0:22:40.907 --> 0:22:44.347 the bottom, didn't it in that America's Cup regatta. Yes, 0:22:44.467 --> 0:22:44.907 that's right. 0:22:45.467 --> 0:22:47.987 You know, after them doing us the under them, we 0:22:48.107 --> 0:22:50.067 came around and we picked them out of the water 0:22:50.587 --> 0:22:51.707 like the gentlemen we are. 0:22:54.187 --> 0:22:56.347 It's a good point. I would hope that they would 0:22:56.347 --> 0:22:59.267 have done the same to us we had these issues. 0:22:59.347 --> 0:23:02.587 Was that two thousand and three from memory when when 0:23:02.627 --> 0:23:04.587 our mast broke and they would trying to bail water 0:23:04.627 --> 0:23:06.347 out of our boat. I think I've got the year 0:23:06.587 --> 0:23:09.107 right anyway. Yeah, No, it's a good memory that the 0:23:09.187 --> 0:23:11.547 one of us helping the Aussies out is a better memory. 0:23:12.587 --> 0:23:12.827 Yeah. 0:23:12.867 --> 0:23:13.427 Absolutely. 0:23:14.387 --> 0:23:20.067 And also about the rugby, I'd be happy overall if 0:23:20.147 --> 0:23:23.427 we managed to get like a two to two result 0:23:23.467 --> 0:23:26.107 because we are going to South Africa. I've got two 0:23:26.587 --> 0:23:31.427 very good spring Box fifteen sides. We've got a good 0:23:31.547 --> 0:23:35.267 solid one and then we've got another bunch of guys developing. 0:23:35.347 --> 0:23:36.267 So if we. 0:23:36.227 --> 0:23:38.147 Could squeak a two to two result out of there 0:23:38.187 --> 0:23:40.787 and then get through the midweek games, I think that 0:23:40.827 --> 0:23:42.867 would be a win for us going into the next 0:23:42.907 --> 0:23:43.427 World Cup. 0:23:44.067 --> 0:23:46.467 I agree, Chris, I agree, and certainly I think if 0:23:46.507 --> 0:23:49.267 we can, if we can leave South Africa after three 0:23:49.427 --> 0:23:53.187 tests with the series alive, like I feel like Baltimore 0:23:53.227 --> 0:23:55.987 might be more of a leveler in terms of the 0:23:55.987 --> 0:23:59.027 fact that it's well in Baltimore, not at altitude at 0:23:59.027 --> 0:24:02.027 Alice Park or in South Africa. Look, I Chris, I'd 0:24:02.027 --> 0:24:04.067 take two too right now. I see that on the 0:24:04.107 --> 0:24:05.947 air last week and I had a lot of people say, oh, 0:24:06.067 --> 0:24:09.067 you know that's you know, that's not an All Black's 0:24:09.067 --> 0:24:12.107 way of thinking. But if you whiten the scope out 0:24:12.147 --> 0:24:14.467 as you have to next year's World Cup, if we 0:24:14.507 --> 0:24:17.587 have a two to two series result against South Africa, 0:24:17.787 --> 0:24:20.027 just over a year after the Rugby World Cup, I'll 0:24:20.067 --> 0:24:20.747 be very happy. 0:24:22.067 --> 0:24:26.547 Absolutely, let's over. 0:24:27.427 --> 0:24:29.827 We can, but hope we can. But hope, Chris. Great 0:24:29.827 --> 0:24:32.667 to hear from you, And like I say, Sam, listening 0:24:32.707 --> 0:24:34.787 to Sam Kaine, I don't know, he just gave me 0:24:34.787 --> 0:24:37.347 a bit of a boost, you know. Former All Blacks 0:24:37.347 --> 0:24:39.387 captain you take a lot of what he sees with 0:24:39.467 --> 0:24:43.507 a huge degree of credibility behind it. He knows how 0:24:43.507 --> 0:24:46.587 to win over there. It sounds simple, doesn't it. Run 0:24:46.627 --> 0:24:49.827 the buggers are out, get them tired, because we often, 0:24:50.107 --> 0:24:51.867 you know, I guess, fall into the trap of thinking 0:24:51.907 --> 0:24:54.427 what we have to do over there is muscle up 0:24:54.467 --> 0:24:57.787 to South Africa and sort of, you know, beat them 0:24:57.787 --> 0:24:59.187 at their own game. And a couple of people have 0:24:59.227 --> 0:25:02.267 pointed out to me that actually yesterday's all black scrum, 0:25:02.827 --> 0:25:06.987 the pack was heavier than the stormers, So yes, you 0:25:07.027 --> 0:25:09.787 do have to have big men, and yesterday, with the 0:25:09.907 --> 0:25:13.947 likes of Fabie and Holland and Simon Parker involved in 0:25:14.027 --> 0:25:16.107 the front rowers as well, we did have a big pack, 0:25:16.907 --> 0:25:19.147 but the scrum was perhaps a bit of a work 0:25:19.227 --> 0:25:22.907 on yesterday. So it's not just the size, the sheer size. 0:25:24.187 --> 0:25:26.267 I want to see that ball move through the hands 0:25:27.107 --> 0:25:33.827 royguard Love, Barrett to Pyre, out to Jordan and McKenzie 0:25:33.867 --> 0:25:36.947 and whoever plays on the left wing, Clark or maybe 0:25:36.947 --> 0:25:41.747 moreby maybe Carter. Let's move the ball, Let's move it quickly. 0:25:43.347 --> 0:25:46.707 That's the recipe, fell, isn't it Run the buggers around? Mate? 0:25:47.987 --> 0:25:48.227 Yeah? 0:25:48.267 --> 0:25:50.707 I reckon Pony, I reckon the big boy soon gets 0:25:50.707 --> 0:25:52.267 pretty tired when he's got to do a bit of 0:25:52.347 --> 0:25:57.707 running for a long period a time. Agree, if he 0:25:57.747 --> 0:26:00.067 gets hold of you're in trouble. But if he can't 0:26:00.107 --> 0:26:04.067 catch you, right, that's. 0:26:03.987 --> 0:26:04.867 Right, that's right. 0:26:05.267 --> 0:26:05.667 How are you? 0:26:05.707 --> 0:26:07.507 How are you feeling? I'm not sure we've spoken about 0:26:07.507 --> 0:26:10.187 the spring Box All Blacks test series. You and I. 0:26:10.227 --> 0:26:11.307 Would you take two too? 0:26:12.627 --> 0:26:12.827 Yeah? 0:26:12.867 --> 0:26:15.387 I would actually like Yeah. I was just starting to Andy. 0:26:15.507 --> 0:26:17.347 I tried to get through last week. I was so 0:26:17.467 --> 0:26:19.547 busy and yesterday but it was just so busy because yeah, 0:26:19.547 --> 0:26:21.787 I've been wanting to have a chat to here just 0:26:21.867 --> 0:26:24.587 on my general views as well, if that's all right 0:26:24.627 --> 0:26:26.347 as well. Just on the way the all Backs are 0:26:26.347 --> 0:26:29.307 God and Dave. Ready, just before I do pointy, I 0:26:29.467 --> 0:26:31.147 just a quick one because I said to Andy, if 0:26:31.147 --> 0:26:32.427 you were okay with it? 0:26:33.707 --> 0:26:33.907 Yeah? 0:26:33.987 --> 0:26:34.187 Good. 0:26:34.187 --> 0:26:36.707 On the Warriors I watched on Friday night. It was 0:26:36.747 --> 0:26:41.547 good to see and they I haven't clearly pulled out 0:26:41.587 --> 0:26:43.467 a bit of magic there for a while, but they 0:26:43.667 --> 0:26:46.307 stuck in there and held in there. And I do 0:26:46.507 --> 0:26:51.027 like cooks cook staff at fall Back. 0:26:51.227 --> 0:26:53.707 I think, Yeah, Nicole Kluk start yep, yep, I loved 0:26:53.787 --> 0:26:55.747 them there. I liked them there as well. Yep I 0:26:55.747 --> 0:26:56.347 did too. 0:26:56.907 --> 0:26:59.187 Yeah, because I get a bit hard to remember the 0:26:59.267 --> 0:27:03.067 names to pronounce them. But and Dylan as well, I've 0:27:03.067 --> 0:27:05.787 always been a great, always a mighty. He makes some 0:27:05.867 --> 0:27:07.867 good yards. He runs in there like a forward and 0:27:07.907 --> 0:27:10.227 takes it up and does a lot of yards that way. 0:27:10.307 --> 0:27:13.427 So you know his value is in that as well. 0:27:13.507 --> 0:27:15.827 And he had some great runs, so it was good 0:27:15.827 --> 0:27:18.227 to see and that Harker was something like house. They 0:27:18.267 --> 0:27:20.027 fired up, like I think it fired them up like 0:27:20.067 --> 0:27:22.347 the Bulldogs come out against them last week. They did 0:27:22.347 --> 0:27:25.547 that against Pamworth and to kind of the Panthers and Stundon. 0:27:26.147 --> 0:27:28.547 But anyhow, I'll get I'll get onto the rugby before 0:27:28.547 --> 0:27:30.907 we run out of the time. An Clark what a 0:27:31.027 --> 0:27:33.387 what a machine he is as well for the Warriors 0:27:33.387 --> 0:27:38.307 and HeLa Sema that And it's a shame that Metcalf's 0:27:38.347 --> 0:27:40.547 going because and it's worked out the way it has 0:27:40.547 --> 0:27:42.907 because yeah, he's a real set and they proved that 0:27:43.387 --> 0:27:47.307 too in that game. But yeah, I think that's I think, 0:27:47.947 --> 0:27:52.027 like Sam Caine said, run the biggers around, you know, 0:27:52.107 --> 0:27:54.547 that's the secret to beating them. I think if we 0:27:54.587 --> 0:27:58.747 can match up to them physically in the forwards and 0:27:58.827 --> 0:28:01.947 we don't get overpowered, but we stand there ground, so 0:28:02.067 --> 0:28:04.627 to speak, and put it with them, then it's run 0:28:04.667 --> 0:28:06.947 them about and get that ball out there and get 0:28:06.987 --> 0:28:08.147 them half in a bit. 0:28:08.267 --> 0:28:08.467 You know. 0:28:08.587 --> 0:28:12.907 But because I like what Reni's doing is great, because 0:28:13.547 --> 0:28:15.387 I was wanting to say to you, like going back 0:28:15.427 --> 0:28:18.707 a bit, but I can't remember who it was we played, 0:28:18.747 --> 0:28:20.187 but it was one of those games where we had 0:28:20.187 --> 0:28:23.667 twenty minutes of absolute scored about three or four tries, 0:28:23.747 --> 0:28:27.907 and they tried something a bit different to make that 0:28:28.027 --> 0:28:30.947 happen because we were struggling up until then they come out. 0:28:30.987 --> 0:28:33.787 I think it was after the second half. That wouldn't 0:28:33.787 --> 0:28:36.067 have happened in Raises, while the short term that he 0:28:36.107 --> 0:28:38.307 had that wouldn't have happened because it seemed like that 0:28:38.347 --> 0:28:41.307 sort of creativity or thinking the player's been able to 0:28:41.347 --> 0:28:44.947 think on the field themselves and try something or talk 0:28:44.987 --> 0:28:49.987 about it seemed to be snuts shut down. So that's good. 0:28:50.027 --> 0:28:52.907 I think that's another anything where he's given the players 0:28:52.947 --> 0:28:54.667 a bit of free reign if it's not where and 0:28:54.787 --> 0:28:56.747 come up with something for me, you know, and tell 0:28:56.787 --> 0:28:59.107 me and give it a go. And the other thing 0:28:59.187 --> 0:29:01.147 to one of those games, which I thought was really good. 0:29:01.267 --> 0:29:03.867 Just the Marshall was commentating and he mentioned it because 0:29:03.907 --> 0:29:08.667 he's such an astute player. Was there was a ruckle, 0:29:08.907 --> 0:29:11.147 there was a mall and a couple of the backs 0:29:11.187 --> 0:29:13.547 came in. It might have been Ruiguard or Love or 0:29:13.707 --> 0:29:15.427 just can't remember exactly who they were, but a couple 0:29:15.427 --> 0:29:17.987 of the backs came over and they bowled the fellers 0:29:18.027 --> 0:29:19.027 off the ball. 0:29:18.707 --> 0:29:19.947 Like the forwards would normally do. 0:29:20.067 --> 0:29:22.987 And Justin commeted on that and said, I like to 0:29:23.027 --> 0:29:26.067 see that as well, because they're getting licensed to if 0:29:26.067 --> 0:29:27.667 you want to get in there, do that, you know, 0:29:27.787 --> 0:29:30.027 don't stand back and do whatever. 0:29:30.187 --> 0:29:31.707 They stick to the structure. 0:29:31.787 --> 0:29:34.467 So that was great. But I yeah, I think we're 0:29:34.507 --> 0:29:36.467 on the right track. I'm liking it and I think 0:29:36.507 --> 0:29:38.467 it is a four runner to the World Cup. I 0:29:38.467 --> 0:29:40.587 think the South African Tour is a four runners to 0:29:40.587 --> 0:29:42.947 the World Cup and to build up and. 0:29:44.347 --> 0:29:45.307 Yeah, yeah, what. 0:29:45.867 --> 0:29:48.747 Good it fell good summary, Good summary mate. I think 0:29:48.827 --> 0:29:50.427 I think I want to leave it on a high 0:29:50.467 --> 0:29:53.107 like that that you know, it is a forerunner to 0:29:53.147 --> 0:29:54.947 what's going to happen next year. Good to get your 0:29:54.947 --> 0:29:56.507 thoughts as always made on the All Blacks and the 0:29:56.827 --> 0:29:59.707 and the Warriors as well. Exciting times to be a 0:29:59.707 --> 0:30:05.867 fan of both. Text through here loving your show when 0:30:06.027 --> 0:30:07.907 I I leave, it wasn't just loving your program. That 0:30:07.947 --> 0:30:09.827 wasn't the text. My husband and I were at the 0:30:09.867 --> 0:30:12.547 Rugby World Cup final, says KB in nineteen eighty seven. 0:30:12.827 --> 0:30:15.227 My husband won two tickets at work that day or 0:30:15.267 --> 0:30:17.627 the day before. Fantastic it was. We'll never forget it. 0:30:17.747 --> 0:30:22.307 We were surrounded by the fringe. Love it, KB, Thanks indeed, God, Hi. 0:30:22.267 --> 0:30:28.227 Mate, Yeah Ga, poney. Favorite memory. I'm just thinking about 0:30:28.267 --> 0:30:28.627 this now. 0:30:28.747 --> 0:30:31.027 For me, it was just personal to me. 0:30:31.067 --> 0:30:34.067 It was going with my dad to Sharif's Brook and 0:30:34.147 --> 0:30:39.747 bending first rugby tesday. I watched Barry's John and the 0:30:39.827 --> 0:30:43.307 Lions were playing the All Blacks, and you know, to 0:30:43.387 --> 0:30:48.547 see such high quality players and people who will remain 0:30:48.627 --> 0:30:53.267 in people who had generation's memory forever, and how wonderful. 0:30:52.787 --> 0:30:56.947 The rugby was. And anyway, so getting onto. 0:30:56.747 --> 0:31:00.147 The All Blacks in South Africa, I only you, Poney. 0:31:00.387 --> 0:31:02.827 The boy's got to move through the back line and 0:31:02.827 --> 0:31:04.987 it's got to be around. We've got to retain the posession. 0:31:05.987 --> 0:31:08.587 You can't score of the opposition the money. 0:31:08.467 --> 0:31:11.587 That got the wall in their hands, and I just 0:31:11.867 --> 0:31:15.627 too often, I think that's the problem that South Africa, 0:31:15.947 --> 0:31:18.387 as we've seen that the storm was already with the 0:31:18.467 --> 0:31:23.667 officials allowing stoppages and creating stoppages all the time, giving 0:31:23.707 --> 0:31:28.667 those guys breathing, there's irish out here, and the bloke 0:31:28.787 --> 0:31:35.107 stopping for his contact lenses repeatedly. I think of the 0:31:35.147 --> 0:31:38.507 second time around the referee saw what was going on 0:31:38.587 --> 0:31:44.147 and it says get off the fieldmate, or or we're 0:31:44.187 --> 0:31:44.547 out here. 0:31:44.547 --> 0:31:50.467 We're carrying on without you, I think, and I just think. 0:31:50.307 --> 0:31:53.947 That the rest aren't aware of what's going on, that 0:31:54.067 --> 0:31:57.147 they know we're in a team that's sucking. 0:31:56.947 --> 0:32:00.707 In the oxygen and they should be taking care of it. 0:32:00.827 --> 0:32:03.507 The other observation to make, and it's just annoying me. 0:32:03.587 --> 0:32:06.587 It's the only thing that really is annoying me with Poke. 0:32:06.627 --> 0:32:09.827 Me in New Zealand's at the moment is the halfbacks. 0:32:11.187 --> 0:32:13.707 We've got some wonderful harm bets, but we've got an 0:32:13.787 --> 0:32:16.467 awful lot of wall. Will be at the base of 0:32:16.427 --> 0:32:18.507 the scrum. They can throw it out that they're sitting 0:32:18.587 --> 0:32:22.627 there and they hesitate for five seconds or so that 0:32:23.787 --> 0:32:26.667 time gives the opposition to see whether they're going to kick, 0:32:27.067 --> 0:32:29.347 where they're going to kick, or whether they're going to 0:32:29.427 --> 0:32:32.107 pass it. They know what's coming and we shouldn't be 0:32:32.147 --> 0:32:35.387 providing at time. This game is certainly under Renny is 0:32:35.427 --> 0:32:38.787 becoming a real high speed, maintain position. 0:32:40.307 --> 0:32:40.587 Game. 0:32:40.907 --> 0:32:44.107 And I just think I saw it last night when 0:32:44.147 --> 0:32:49.947 the game between the Marcos and the Boys from down 0:32:50.027 --> 0:32:51.507 Napey Way and. 0:32:51.827 --> 0:32:55.907 The first scrum, the first two scrums, he actually at 0:32:55.947 --> 0:32:56.547 the pace of. 0:32:56.507 --> 0:32:59.107 The scrum and he must have wanted the five seconds 0:32:59.147 --> 0:33:01.387 on both occasion before he kicked the ball. 0:33:01.707 --> 0:33:04.587 And we're so obvious what's going on. It gives the 0:33:04.587 --> 0:33:05.787 opposition too much. 0:33:05.707 --> 0:33:09.187 Simon my well, Garth, you're right about that as a tactic, Yeah, 0:33:09.187 --> 0:33:11.267 you're right, And I think daver and he is actually 0:33:11.267 --> 0:33:13.707 trying to get the All Blacks half backs to to 0:33:14.347 --> 0:33:16.227 well first of all, to get to the right quickly 0:33:16.667 --> 0:33:18.587 and then to clear it quickly. But you know, it's 0:33:18.627 --> 0:33:21.587 a great point you make that you know, the longer 0:33:21.587 --> 0:33:24.387 you wait, the worse it gets. As far as letting 0:33:24.427 --> 0:33:28.507 the opposition get set up. Barry John lines to it. 0:33:28.547 --> 0:33:31.827 That must have been what seventy one presumably Good to 0:33:31.867 --> 0:33:34.507 have your memories, mate, good to have your memories. Seventeen 0:33:34.547 --> 0:33:36.587 away from one news talks, he'd b oh, eight hundred 0:33:36.587 --> 0:33:38.987 and eighty, ten to eighty talking spring box, talking your 0:33:39.187 --> 0:33:41.507 favorite memories of the last one hundred years. We're back 0:33:41.507 --> 0:33:42.427 with more calls after this. 0:33:42.987 --> 0:33:46.107 The scoreboards, Dalent waits, the world. 0:33:45.867 --> 0:33:48.827 Weights and the sports talk and your home of sport 0:33:48.947 --> 0:33:50.267 for one hundred years. 0:33:50.467 --> 0:33:52.547 This is rue said be the feature station. 0:33:52.827 --> 0:33:56.267 It's Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and the ud EQ 0:33:56.387 --> 0:34:01.307 seven Dynamic black Runout edition available while stogs last news talks, that'd. 0:34:01.187 --> 0:34:03.707 Be thirteen to one text through here. Any news on 0:34:03.747 --> 0:34:06.867 the Billy Proctor injury. Here's Neil Barnes a few hours 0:34:06.907 --> 0:34:07.707 ago on that. 0:34:08.147 --> 0:34:10.107 Too early it he's been assessed at the moment, but 0:34:10.187 --> 0:34:13.467 obviously but saw yesterday. But let's be on the positive side, 0:34:13.467 --> 0:34:14.987 and I hope that's all right. But no, I can't 0:34:14.987 --> 0:34:16.987 give you any more information because I simply don't know. 0:34:17.227 --> 0:34:20.267 Yeah, shoulder injury for Billy Procter. He left the left 0:34:20.427 --> 0:34:23.227 the field during the win over the Stormers. So let's 0:34:23.267 --> 0:34:27.707 hope that he's going to be okay, Mark, Hi, Yeah. 0:34:27.507 --> 0:34:30.347 It's just wondering on that whether Neil Blacks or Dave 0:34:30.427 --> 0:34:33.107 Redeye sees Rico as a winger or a center, and 0:34:33.107 --> 0:34:34.227 I'm quite sure about that. 0:34:34.707 --> 0:34:37.507 A winger I reckon. A winger, I reckon yeah. I 0:34:38.747 --> 0:34:43.267 although he's pretty versatile. He played pretty well at center 0:34:43.307 --> 0:34:44.867 for a long time for the All Blacks, but I 0:34:44.907 --> 0:34:48.307 would say a winger, Yeah. I feel as though the 0:34:48.347 --> 0:34:50.707 other four are ahead of him in the queue for 0:34:51.027 --> 0:34:52.547 those midfield spots. 0:34:53.147 --> 0:34:54.107 I like him at center. 0:34:54.187 --> 0:34:56.307 I think you've got that speed and. 0:34:56.307 --> 0:35:00.347 Power and size. Really, I think he's fantastic next to Jordi. 0:35:00.787 --> 0:35:03.827 The spring Box. I mean, they can adly beat the 0:35:04.107 --> 0:35:07.307 Argentinian Pumaslau tonight, but one by seven. I mean, I 0:35:07.307 --> 0:35:10.107 think this is going to be a Fournel whitewash by all. 0:35:10.147 --> 0:35:10.547 But I. 0:35:12.227 --> 0:35:14.027 Love it, Marke, love that, mate, love it. 0:35:14.467 --> 0:35:17.467 I didn't. I didn't realize we're playing the spring Box 0:35:17.667 --> 0:35:21.867 four weeks consecutively. That's where we've probably never done that before. 0:35:21.707 --> 0:35:25.547 We I don't think so those old old style tours 0:35:25.547 --> 0:35:28.347 when they came here and we went there, I'm almost 0:35:28.347 --> 0:35:30.387 certain the test matches weren't weak to week to week 0:35:30.387 --> 0:35:33.587 to week. No, I think this would be this would 0:35:33.627 --> 0:35:34.867 be a first in that regard. 0:35:34.947 --> 0:35:39.027 Yes, yeah, I mean Rathie has always got a plan. 0:35:39.467 --> 0:35:41.427 I mean you could see the disappointment when he when 0:35:41.427 --> 0:35:43.387 he went to Eden Park and lost that match. He 0:35:43.507 --> 0:35:47.067 was nearly in tears, which was quite great to see 0:35:47.547 --> 0:35:50.947 to be here. But yeah, I just think we're going 0:35:50.987 --> 0:35:53.107 to have to manage our players. I think that's what 0:35:53.307 --> 0:35:56.347 that was my reasoning behind the reason. And I attended 0:35:56.347 --> 0:35:59.667 the match unfortunately and Willington when the box put it 0:35:59.667 --> 0:36:01.627 on us, but you know, they put on a whole 0:36:01.627 --> 0:36:04.187 new team. We're basically playing that the team we had 0:36:04.947 --> 0:36:08.467 the week before, and yeah, I thought it's sort of 0:36:08.547 --> 0:36:11.427 like fifty sixty minutes into the game, they were just 0:36:11.467 --> 0:36:13.427 sort of done, you know. And that's when the Springboarts 0:36:13.427 --> 0:36:17.547 really opened up on them on the on the test matches. 0:36:18.387 --> 0:36:21.547 As a sports fan, I just want to see the 0:36:21.587 --> 0:36:24.627 games decided on the field. I'm just sick and tired 0:36:24.667 --> 0:36:27.907 and we're seeing it every international match now that the 0:36:27.987 --> 0:36:32.227 games getting decided by the referee and cards, and at 0:36:32.267 --> 0:36:35.067 some point world rugby has to go, you know, And 0:36:35.107 --> 0:36:37.667 it's right through just about every game right through the 0:36:37.707 --> 0:36:39.587 World Cup. I mean you could say the last World 0:36:39.667 --> 0:36:42.787 Cup final was spoiled by you know, obviously cards and 0:36:42.827 --> 0:36:46.747 it didn't didn't help New Zealand. But I think in 0:36:46.867 --> 0:36:49.987 Super Rugby that they've got the balance right. And to me, 0:36:50.747 --> 0:36:53.907 the two Australian rests were probably two of the best 0:36:53.947 --> 0:36:57.267 in the world, and the fact that they give you 0:36:57.307 --> 0:37:00.587 the best game to watch, and this stop start of 0:37:00.707 --> 0:37:03.427 fear we were going up to the TMO and then 0:37:03.507 --> 0:37:07.667 that that carding players. It's not to watch, is it. 0:37:07.667 --> 0:37:08.947 It's just not fun to watch. 0:37:09.307 --> 0:37:12.347 No, it's not. It absolutely isn't. And I think we 0:37:12.387 --> 0:37:15.267 all get foul Playmark, We all understand that there have 0:37:15.467 --> 0:37:20.587 the consequences and repercussions for severe foul play. But look, 0:37:20.747 --> 0:37:23.627 this is probably a conversation for another day. But yeah, 0:37:23.947 --> 0:37:26.187 I looked at those yellow cars yesterday and only browns 0:37:26.187 --> 0:37:28.347 in particular. You know that tackle has started on the 0:37:28.427 --> 0:37:30.707 upper chest and slid up to the head. Look if 0:37:30.707 --> 0:37:33.627 the referee doesn't spot it in real time on the 0:37:33.627 --> 0:37:36.987 field with close proximity in his favor, then what are 0:37:36.987 --> 0:37:37.387 we doing? 0:37:37.427 --> 0:37:37.627 You know? 0:37:39.227 --> 0:37:41.667 I just think it's getting to the point where that 0:37:41.867 --> 0:37:45.387 when the TMO, especially from upstairs, can interject into the game. 0:37:45.747 --> 0:37:49.747 I mean, it's a context sport. People are flying in 0:37:49.787 --> 0:37:51.867 from everywhere all the time. I mean, you could just 0:37:51.907 --> 0:37:56.187 able to pick out any any racks and find some 0:37:56.227 --> 0:37:59.987 sort of foul play there where a player's heads contacted. 0:38:00.027 --> 0:38:03.627 And I just think that, yeah, I'm just as watching 0:38:03.667 --> 0:38:08.147 international rugby, it's certainly not it's flowing as a Super 0:38:08.187 --> 0:38:12.147 Rugby competition wasn't here, And I'd actually like to see 0:38:12.187 --> 0:38:15.627 maybe an angus gardener takes the games. I mean, it's 0:38:15.707 --> 0:38:18.107 just when you see the rest sometimes think oh no, 0:38:18.267 --> 0:38:20.507 this is just going to be a stop start of 0:38:20.627 --> 0:38:23.947 fear with bloody thirty penalties really in five red calves, 0:38:24.147 --> 0:38:25.187 five yellow cards. 0:38:25.227 --> 0:38:27.867 You know, we all understand Mark, and we're talking to 0:38:27.907 --> 0:38:30.267 Sam kne earlier about concussion. You know, we all understand 0:38:30.307 --> 0:38:33.787 how important it is to protect the safety of the players. 0:38:34.587 --> 0:38:38.947 But yeah, I mean the constant TMO intervention. I mean, 0:38:38.947 --> 0:38:41.147 we got spoiled, didn't we in Super Rugby when they 0:38:41.187 --> 0:38:44.347 made those changes and said, look, okay, TMO, you just 0:38:44.387 --> 0:38:48.307 stay silent apart from these situations. It's like the TMO 0:38:48.427 --> 0:38:50.987 has just become a fourth part of the officiating team 0:38:51.347 --> 0:38:55.267 in real time, you know, listening even in July in 0:38:55.307 --> 0:38:58.947 those test matches, you know, listening to being on the 0:38:58.947 --> 0:39:01.267 sideline and getting the effect feed which we get, which 0:39:01.307 --> 0:39:02.987 you get if you listen to the radio commentary of 0:39:03.027 --> 0:39:08.347 the referee, but the tmo's voices as constant as referees. Anyway, 0:39:08.827 --> 0:39:11.027 as I say, maybe a conversation for another day. Eight 0:39:11.067 --> 0:39:12.187 away from one News Talk SIBB. 0:39:13.107 --> 0:39:16.787 When there's a line call, it's your call. Weekend Sport 0:39:17.147 --> 0:39:19.387 with Jason Fine News Talks. 0:39:19.147 --> 0:39:22.787 HEBB coming up five to one. Just a reminder after two, 0:39:22.947 --> 0:39:25.587 Dame Lisa Carrington is on the show and Murray Deeker 0:39:25.867 --> 0:39:31.587 as well, the doy end, the trailblazer of radio sports broadcasting. 0:39:31.627 --> 0:39:34.587 As we celebrate one hundred years, a chance to remember 0:39:34.627 --> 0:39:37.947 some of the great sporting memories from the last century. 0:39:38.427 --> 0:39:41.347 The last ball of the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup 0:39:41.427 --> 0:39:45.067 semi final between the black Caps and South Africa at 0:39:45.227 --> 0:39:46.827 eden Park Steam. 0:39:46.627 --> 0:39:48.867 Bowls and it swung away and that's going for. 0:39:48.867 --> 0:39:50.027 Six and that's the match. 0:39:50.987 --> 0:39:55.507 Ron Elliott takes New Zealand to the World Cup Final for. 0:39:55.467 --> 0:39:57.867 The first time ever. Yeah, what a moment that was. 0:39:57.907 --> 0:39:59.667 If you go to Eden Park you can find that 0:39:59.747 --> 0:40:02.427 spot because they've painted the seat where the ball landed 0:40:02.467 --> 0:40:05.947 green in the Eden Park stand there so you can 0:40:05.947 --> 0:40:09.547 always reminisce about that, and what about this perhaps the 0:40:09.667 --> 0:40:14.867 most iconic piece of sports radio broadcasting ever. 0:40:15.747 --> 0:40:18.507 Now in nineteen ninety five, at stand up, New Zealand, 0:40:18.747 --> 0:40:22.547 Black Magic is about to sail to an unprecedented five 0:40:22.627 --> 0:40:29.547 deal with Salt and Summetry. The America's Cup is now 0:40:29.827 --> 0:40:33.547 New Zealand's Cup, and for only the second time in 0:40:33.747 --> 0:40:37.587 one hundred and forty four years, for most Illustrious and 0:40:37.627 --> 0:40:42.707 a loser of Praises in Sailor International Sports, Bolder's Prize 0:40:42.987 --> 0:40:44.507 leaves the United. 0:40:44.107 --> 0:40:47.627 States now PJ The America's Cup is now New Zealand's Cup. 0:40:47.667 --> 0:40:51.267 Has there been a more iconic sentence uttered in our 0:40:51.307 --> 0:40:54.547 sports broadcasting history? If there has, I can't think of it. 0:40:54.667 --> 0:40:57.707 Right now, approaching one o'clock the Ranfurlly Shield goes on 0:40:57.747 --> 0:41:01.827 the line in Dunedin this afternoon. Otago have the log 0:41:01.907 --> 0:41:04.627 on their sideline. Canterbury are coming to take it back. 0:41:04.707 --> 0:41:07.267 Of course, it was Otago who took got off Canterbury 0:41:07.547 --> 0:41:10.027 last season. So we'll get you inside the Otago camp 0:41:10.307 --> 0:41:12.787 and the National Basketball League Final two. 0:41:14.227 --> 0:41:17.787 The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 0:41:19.187 --> 0:41:22.147 head off the field got a story. It's all on 0:41:22.227 --> 0:41:25.907 Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and the UDIQ seven Dynamic 0:41:25.947 --> 0:41:29.907 Black Runout edition on Youth Talks MB your home of. 0:41:29.987 --> 0:41:32.787 Sport Oho there one O seven. This is Weekend Sport 0:41:32.827 --> 0:41:35.307 on News Talk, zedby Andy McDonald has put the show together. 0:41:35.347 --> 0:41:37.867 On Jason Pine, We're here till three. Just got a 0:41:37.907 --> 0:41:41.707 lovely text from PJ Montgomery bull of an arker. It says, 0:41:41.787 --> 0:41:46.867 Jason from Musket Cove, Fiji. You're booming in by starlink. 0:41:46.947 --> 0:41:48.787 I don't even know what that is, PJ. But it's 0:41:48.787 --> 0:41:50.627 great to have you listening, and I hope you heard 0:41:51.427 --> 0:41:54.107 your iconic line. Goodness only knows how many times p J. 0:41:54.227 --> 0:41:58.547 Montgomery has been asked about that. I mean, what a line. 0:41:58.667 --> 0:42:01.907 I wonder if he knew when he said that the 0:42:01.987 --> 0:42:05.467 America's Cup is now New Zealand's cup. I wonder if 0:42:05.507 --> 0:42:12.307 he knew then how utterly iconic that sentence would be, PJ. 0:42:12.467 --> 0:42:14.507 Great to have you listening and trust you enjoying yourself 0:42:14.947 --> 0:42:18.387 in Fiji, mate, Lots of great texts coming through Jason. 0:42:18.627 --> 0:42:21.827 Loving hearing the old clips and stings before the news 0:42:22.227 --> 0:42:24.427 brings back a lot of memories, says Annie is it 0:42:24.467 --> 0:42:27.947 possible to hear a wee part of your oldest rugby game. 0:42:28.387 --> 0:42:30.227 I don't know whether it's one of the oldest ones Annie, 0:42:30.227 --> 0:42:31.667 but it goes to a couple of texts I've got 0:42:31.667 --> 0:42:36.307 through here. One from John says, please play Winston McCarthy's 0:42:36.347 --> 0:42:39.387 commentary he was a radio legend, and from Murray Piney. 0:42:39.427 --> 0:42:43.187 You're probably too young to remember, but Winston McCarthy, listen. 0:42:43.347 --> 0:42:48.787 It's a goal iconic for anyone old enough to remember. Murray. 0:42:48.787 --> 0:42:50.747 I am a little bit old to remember it, but 0:42:50.947 --> 0:42:54.107 I have heard it lots of times and it remains iconic. 0:42:55.187 --> 0:42:56.627 That comes kark. 0:42:56.307 --> 0:42:59.827 Now, he moves up, he's kicking and that's a lovelace. 0:43:00.507 --> 0:43:03.787 Listen, that's the guy. 0:43:05.387 --> 0:43:05.547 There. 0:43:05.627 --> 0:43:05.827 You go. 0:43:06.347 --> 0:43:10.867 Listen, it's a goal from Winston MacArthur. Year you speak 0:43:10.867 --> 0:43:13.267 about wonderful moments on the radio news talks, he'd be 0:43:13.627 --> 0:43:17.587 celebrating one hundred years the ninth of August nineteen twenty six, 0:43:17.667 --> 0:43:20.107 so one hundred years to the day the zib call 0:43:20.227 --> 0:43:23.907 sign was first heard after two Murray Deekers on the show, 0:43:24.587 --> 0:43:26.667 and Dame Lisa Carrington as well. But we start this 0:43:26.787 --> 0:43:30.387 hour with rugby and the ran Furley shield goes on 0:43:30.467 --> 0:43:33.587 a line on the line rather again this afternoon holders 0:43:33.627 --> 0:43:38.267 Otago welcome Canterbury to Forsyth bar Stadium. It was, of 0:43:38.347 --> 0:43:42.627 course Canterbury who Otago took the shield off last season. 0:43:42.667 --> 0:43:45.707 They're still going Otago up towards the five minute line 0:43:45.707 --> 0:43:46.267 of Canterbury. 0:43:46.707 --> 0:43:49.507 They keep it in tight. They've just got to hold 0:43:49.547 --> 0:43:49.867 onto it. 0:43:50.507 --> 0:43:54.587 Bower with a carry offloads off the ground to Umaga Jenson, 0:43:55.107 --> 0:43:58.467 Canterbury trying desperately to turn the ball over. 0:43:59.467 --> 0:44:02.347 There's the hooter back to Bella. 0:44:03.027 --> 0:44:05.067 Otago have done it. 0:44:06.467 --> 0:44:09.547 You win the red Pillage Shield for the eighth time 0:44:09.627 --> 0:44:15.467 of their history and break Canterbury hearts thirty eight thirty six. 0:44:16.187 --> 0:44:17.067 Incredible. 0:44:17.227 --> 0:44:20.067 Heah, what a day for Otago and christ Church. The 0:44:20.147 --> 0:44:23.307 same two teams meet this afternoon from just after two 0:44:23.347 --> 0:44:25.467 o'clock with the log of wood on the line. Let's 0:44:25.467 --> 0:44:29.947 bring an Otago lock slash loose forward slash utility. We'll 0:44:30.027 --> 0:44:31.947 start at actually, well can we start there. I've been 0:44:31.947 --> 0:44:34.427 trying to work out whether you're a lock of blondside 0:44:34.467 --> 0:44:36.747 flanker a number eight. Can you can you shed any 0:44:36.827 --> 0:44:37.307 light for us? 0:44:37.987 --> 0:44:38.187 Yeah? 0:44:38.307 --> 0:44:40.947 That's good question. Sometimes I'm not quite sure myself, but 0:44:41.867 --> 0:44:46.107 definitely eight and six of my preferred positions. But just 0:44:46.107 --> 0:44:47.747 the last couple of years, I've just been doing what's 0:44:47.787 --> 0:44:50.747 guest the team, I suppose, so anytime on the fields 0:44:50.787 --> 0:44:51.627 on a bad time, so. 0:44:52.507 --> 0:44:54.387 A way I look at it, love that love that 0:44:54.507 --> 0:44:56.467 you won the Shield off Canterbury at the back end 0:44:56.507 --> 0:45:00.347 of last season. Memorable day coming from fifteen points down 0:45:00.387 --> 0:45:02.747 to beat them thirty eight thirty six in christ Church. 0:45:02.987 --> 0:45:06.467 Where does that day sit in the rugby that you've played. 0:45:06.987 --> 0:45:09.467 Yeah, definitely up there. It'd be hard for that not 0:45:09.547 --> 0:45:11.427 to be the pinnacle for me in terms of my 0:45:11.587 --> 0:45:13.827 career so far. She has a pretty special night in 0:45:13.867 --> 0:45:17.347 christ Church. Yeah, we're sort of under the pumpoi but 0:45:18.027 --> 0:45:20.347 came back and had some pretty cool heads and some 0:45:20.467 --> 0:45:24.147 special moments from some special players in their team. But yeah, 0:45:24.307 --> 0:45:26.467 it's it's pretty highly there for me. It's gonna be 0:45:26.507 --> 0:45:27.707 tough to knock that off its perch. 0:45:28.427 --> 0:45:30.587 Was that your first round Fury Shield challenge? 0:45:31.867 --> 0:45:34.307 Yeah, yeah it was. I've been waiting, been waiting a 0:45:34.347 --> 0:45:34.827 couple of years. 0:45:34.907 --> 0:45:35.067 I was. 0:45:35.147 --> 0:45:37.507 Yeah, just eager to get my own challenge and pretty 0:45:37.507 --> 0:45:39.587 good strite great so far, so I'd like to keep 0:45:39.627 --> 0:45:40.627 that record in text. 0:45:41.027 --> 0:45:43.987 Bet oh bet I bet so. I mean, this is, 0:45:44.267 --> 0:45:46.307 no doubt a silly question, but how driven do you 0:45:46.387 --> 0:45:48.947 think Canterbury will be to come to your place this 0:45:49.067 --> 0:45:50.187 afternoon and take it back? 0:45:51.107 --> 0:45:51.267 Oh? 0:45:51.387 --> 0:45:54.147 Yeah, they'll be highly driven. It's to be hard, not 0:45:54.227 --> 0:45:55.907 for any for any team not to get up for 0:45:56.027 --> 0:45:58.587 a ram Frely Shield challenge. You know, they don't come 0:45:58.787 --> 0:46:01.907 very often. You won't get for a few years sometimes, 0:46:01.947 --> 0:46:04.147 but yeah, we're expecting them to come and bring everything 0:46:04.187 --> 0:46:06.067 and throw it at us and behave every right to 0:46:06.107 --> 0:46:06.267 do so. 0:46:06.707 --> 0:46:08.787 And on the other side of the coin, how determined 0:46:09.227 --> 0:46:11.827 are you all to keep the log for a bit longer? 0:46:12.507 --> 0:46:15.147 Yeah, no, we're We've had a pretty special week in 0:46:15.227 --> 0:46:17.667 tenth week and just try to trying to flip that 0:46:17.787 --> 0:46:19.747 mindset and look at it as we're trying to attack 0:46:19.787 --> 0:46:22.187 for the shield again, not defend it. But yeah, had 0:46:22.187 --> 0:46:23.947 a pretty good week and we'll be doing everything to 0:46:24.587 --> 0:46:25.787 keep it for another week. 0:46:26.267 --> 0:46:28.627 You also met them, of course in the NPC Final 0:46:28.707 --> 0:46:31.787 last year and going down thirty six twenty eight on 0:46:31.867 --> 0:46:35.147 that occasion. How much has the sting of that been 0:46:35.307 --> 0:46:38.707 used as motivation ahead of this NPC season. 0:46:40.227 --> 0:46:42.107 Yeah, like the way I've sort of scend up a year. 0:46:43.027 --> 0:46:44.467 You know, we want to go one better than that, 0:46:44.667 --> 0:46:46.907 and you know, you've got to have the confidence in 0:46:46.947 --> 0:46:50.467 your group to know you can, and yeah, definitely use 0:46:50.507 --> 0:46:52.547 as a little bit of fuel, but we sort of 0:46:52.627 --> 0:46:55.387 use that to build off and get better. You know, 0:46:55.627 --> 0:46:57.227 we can't just rely on what we did last year. 0:46:57.227 --> 0:47:00.147 We've got to obviously improve a few things and keep 0:47:00.227 --> 0:47:02.427 some things the same, but overall use as a little 0:47:02.427 --> 0:47:04.307 bit of fuel just to get better and give us 0:47:04.627 --> 0:47:06.227 more more confidence than anything. 0:47:06.467 --> 0:47:09.507 There was a superb season for Otago in twenty twenty five, 0:47:09.587 --> 0:47:13.027 second on the table and the regular season memorable wins 0:47:13.067 --> 0:47:15.787 over Wakata and Bay of Plenty in the quarters and 0:47:15.827 --> 0:47:19.667 the semis. I mean, it was a terrific season. What 0:47:19.867 --> 0:47:22.227 were the things that you know did go so well 0:47:22.347 --> 0:47:24.387 last season that you think will be helpful as you 0:47:24.747 --> 0:47:26.267 as you attack twenty twenty six. 0:47:28.107 --> 0:47:30.707 I think belief might be a bit of a cliche, 0:47:30.827 --> 0:47:33.427 but last year we just got more and more belief 0:47:33.467 --> 0:47:34.867 in the group, and I think right at the start 0:47:34.907 --> 0:47:37.827 of the year one of their key leaders, Gilbert Sam 0:47:37.867 --> 0:47:40.107 Gilbert sort of hit the nail on the head and say, 0:47:40.147 --> 0:47:42.347 you know, we don't want to be seen as underdogs 0:47:42.427 --> 0:47:44.867 anymore and thinking ourselves as that, like, we want to 0:47:45.547 --> 0:47:47.707 believe and though we are some of the top contenders 0:47:47.827 --> 0:47:49.867 in the camp, and we've sort of tried to use 0:47:49.907 --> 0:47:53.147 that mindset and just use that and build belief and 0:47:53.227 --> 0:47:55.947 more confidence, and a week in week heals and yeah, 0:47:55.987 --> 0:47:58.387 confidence of belief in the group does great things. 0:47:58.427 --> 0:48:01.867 I reckon, Well, you started the season last weekend on 0:48:02.107 --> 0:48:04.147 Stag Day down and in Vericago, which I guess could 0:48:04.147 --> 0:48:05.427 have been a bit of a banana skin for you. 0:48:05.547 --> 0:48:07.507 We know how up they get down there. But a 0:48:07.587 --> 0:48:11.507 comfortable forty one fourteen win. How happy was the playing 0:48:11.547 --> 0:48:13.827 group and the coaching staff with last weekend? 0:48:14.707 --> 0:48:14.907 Yeah? 0:48:15.027 --> 0:48:15.707 No, really happy. 0:48:15.787 --> 0:48:17.547 Good to get a win like that under your belt. 0:48:17.627 --> 0:48:19.347 And like you said, it can be a pretty hostile 0:48:19.467 --> 0:48:22.947 environment down there sessionistag Day. So yeah, we're starting to 0:48:22.987 --> 0:48:27.347 come out with a pretty yeah, pretty confident one and 0:48:27.547 --> 0:48:29.067 yeah it does a bit for the group, but they 0:48:29.107 --> 0:48:30.707 all want us going through the camp and just happy 0:48:30.747 --> 0:48:33.587 to get a come back from State hahioan up the 0:48:33.667 --> 0:48:34.827 road with a good win like that. 0:48:35.867 --> 0:48:37.267 I bet. I just want to ask you about playing 0:48:37.267 --> 0:48:40.827 alongside Fabian Holland obviously have done so in an Otago 0:48:41.187 --> 0:48:44.747 shirt and in a Highlander shirt. Not this season in 0:48:44.827 --> 0:48:47.067 Super Rugby of course with the injury. But what's it 0:48:47.147 --> 0:48:49.907 been like playing alongside him and you know, linking up 0:48:49.947 --> 0:48:51.507 for them in the second role on occasion, but just 0:48:51.587 --> 0:48:52.907 being in the same Ford pack as him. 0:48:53.787 --> 0:48:54.707 Yeah, and that's been great. 0:48:54.747 --> 0:48:57.347 Fabian's a great man. I've been lucky enough to play 0:48:57.907 --> 0:49:00.787 quite a bit of age group stuff alongside Shades, growing 0:49:00.867 --> 0:49:03.347 up through Lander's twenties and things like that. But yeah, 0:49:03.387 --> 0:49:07.187 he's been great having the group for a bit. He's 0:49:07.267 --> 0:49:09.467 obviously a leader within the group and helping her their 0:49:09.507 --> 0:49:12.747 set peace and we're obviously stoked to see him back. 0:49:12.787 --> 0:49:15.307 And they had all blacks environments and rather see him 0:49:15.347 --> 0:49:18.387 do or have another great year in the black jersey. 0:49:18.707 --> 0:49:21.027 Did you sort of realize when you first started playing 0:49:21.067 --> 0:49:22.787 with him that you know he was it was a 0:49:22.827 --> 0:49:23.667 pretty decent player. 0:49:24.547 --> 0:49:27.307 Yeah. I remember back at high school that St Andrew's 0:49:27.347 --> 0:49:29.507 here at Christler's Boys. I remember seeing this big tall 0:49:30.147 --> 0:49:31.627 I thought he was German at the time lot but 0:49:31.707 --> 0:49:33.707 turned down he was a big Dutch fellow. And yeah, 0:49:33.707 --> 0:49:35.907 he could tell you something special about him for a 0:49:35.947 --> 0:49:38.667 different gravy and it's an awesome see him kick on 0:49:38.787 --> 0:49:41.147 and it's no surprises how driven he is. 0:49:41.467 --> 0:49:43.867 Where he's got to wonderful stuff. Well for you guys 0:49:43.987 --> 0:49:46.107 this afternoon, it is the log of wood on the 0:49:46.187 --> 0:49:48.667 sideline there at Forsyth Barer's. Canterbury come and try and 0:49:48.987 --> 0:49:50.707 take it off. You're all the best, will hope, but 0:49:51.027 --> 0:49:53.147 it stays with you guys for a bit longer. Appreciate 0:49:53.147 --> 0:49:54.227 you taking the time for a chat. 0:49:54.427 --> 0:49:56.467 Yeah, awesome, Thank you, Pinie, appreciate it. 0:49:56.587 --> 0:49:58.267 No, thank you for joining us. Well, all the best 0:49:58.307 --> 0:50:01.547 of this afternoon will start up. He's playing Lock this afternoon, 0:50:01.587 --> 0:50:04.347 but as you heard him say, six' eight his preferred, 0:50:04.347 --> 0:50:07.907 position but he's happy. Anywhere five past. Two that game 0:50:08.027 --> 0:50:12.267 kicks off In. Dunedin If otago were to defend the shield, 0:50:12.347 --> 0:50:15.947 successfully the next chance for somebody to take it off 0:50:15.987 --> 0:50:18.947 them would Be wellington in a couple of. Weeks they 0:50:19.267 --> 0:50:22.667 Play otago On, sunday the twenty third Of august. Year 0:50:22.707 --> 0:50:25.547 that's two weeks. Today If canterbury were to win at this, 0:50:25.667 --> 0:50:28.467 afternoon Then bay Of plenty have a crack at it 0:50:28.627 --> 0:50:31.227 Next saturday. Afternoon those two meet and what at the 0:50:31.267 --> 0:50:33.867 moment is just AN mpc game but If canterbury take 0:50:33.907 --> 0:50:36.027 the shield, home then it'll be Of. Bay it'll Be 0:50:36.107 --> 0:50:39.467 bay of. Plenty having a crack at them this, Afternoon maust, 0:50:39.507 --> 0:50:42.267 says in, fact must have sent me four texts all the. 0:50:42.387 --> 0:50:44.587 SAME i hope you're going to talk about The magpies. 0:50:44.627 --> 0:50:49.347 Today i'm sure Of wellington we're, winning you'd be talking about, 0:50:49.387 --> 0:50:52.747 them Must that's a little bit. Unfair but, Look i've 0:50:52.867 --> 0:50:57.587 been very impressed with The. Magpies very. Impressed aleck On texas, Day, 0:50:57.627 --> 0:51:00.387 poney alick. Hep how good are Those Hawks Bay magpies 0:51:01.187 --> 0:51:05.027 another fifty piece this weekend Against, tasman fifty On wellington last. 0:51:05.107 --> 0:51:08.707 Weekend only two, games but, jeez now looking the, goods Says. 0:51:08.747 --> 0:51:11.947 Alec up The. Magpies also looking forward to your chat 0:51:11.987 --> 0:51:14.707 tomorrow morning with sav and The husk about the mike's 0:51:14.707 --> 0:51:17.027 going to be. Fizzing he will, Be, yeah commentary box 0:51:17.067 --> 0:51:19.907 tomorrow morning will be will be chockers with all sorts of. 0:51:19.987 --> 0:51:23.107 Chat another texture. Head this is just. Random i'm just 0:51:23.107 --> 0:51:24.827 sort of ticking these off as we. GO i like 0:51:24.907 --> 0:51:28.267 to try and answer the questions that come through IF i. Can, 0:51:28.627 --> 0:51:30.787 jase do you know When Shannon frazzel is due to 0:51:30.867 --> 0:51:35.187 be eligible for The All. Blacks Ask, RICHARD i feel 0:51:35.267 --> 0:51:37.627 like he would complete our Loose. Fords, well he's available, 0:51:37.667 --> 0:51:40.547 now isn't. He jenniferzel's played For, tessman hasn't? He he's 0:51:40.547 --> 0:51:46.307 PLAYED MPC, yep so he is eligible, Now. Richard If 0:51:46.747 --> 0:51:49.467 Dave rennie is of the mind he could Pick Shannon 0:51:49.547 --> 0:51:52.947 frazel now if there's an injury In South. Africa if 0:51:53.027 --> 0:51:55.347 the Loose ford gets, Injured jenniferzell could be your, man 0:51:55.787 --> 0:51:58.227 certainly when they get back for The Bledisloe cup matches 0:51:58.787 --> 0:52:01.347 end of yet. Tour, yeah So jenniferzel is back in 0:52:01.387 --> 0:52:03.387 the mix. Now somebody also pointed out to me that 0:52:03.427 --> 0:52:07.507 If Billy proctor can't continue on this, tour then would 0:52:07.547 --> 0:52:09.707 that open the door For Richie. MOONGER i know they 0:52:09.747 --> 0:52:13.587 play different. Positions billy practice am midfield. Back Richie wonger 0:52:13.667 --> 0:52:17.027 is a first. Five Dave rennie said that he would 0:52:17.827 --> 0:52:19.987 you know that he would Consider Richie waronger in a 0:52:20.267 --> 0:52:23.227 like for like. Situation he too has played THE mpc, 0:52:23.427 --> 0:52:28.867 now so he is. Available. YEAH i don't. KNOW i 0:52:30.267 --> 0:52:32.347 feel as though they just bring another midfield back over 0:52:32.467 --> 0:52:36.027 if they if they Lost Billy. Procter but it's an interesting, 0:52:36.107 --> 0:52:39.187 point an interesting. Point our NUMBERS r eight hundred and 0:52:39.227 --> 0:52:41.627 eighty ten eighty anything you want to bring up this 0:52:41.747 --> 0:52:44.907 afternoon or the best to otago this afternoon And. Canterbury of, 0:52:44.947 --> 0:52:46.947 COURSE i don't think we should be Anti. Canterbury we're 0:52:46.947 --> 0:52:50.227 not Anti. Canterbury all the best for a fantastic shield 0:52:50.267 --> 0:52:53.187 match this, afternoon one. Eighteen we'll take a break when 0:52:53.227 --> 0:52:54.947 we come, back actually before we, go before we. Go 0:52:55.627 --> 0:53:00.667 another text thro here as iconic as pj's ninety Five 0:53:00.747 --> 0:53:02.227 America's cup commentary. 0:53:01.987 --> 0:53:02.307 Was and it. 0:53:02.587 --> 0:53:08.387 Was what About Harold abraham's commentary Of Jack lovelock winning 0:53:08.427 --> 0:53:14.707 the fifteen hundred meters at the nineteen thirty Six olympics In. Berlin, well, Fortunately, 0:53:14.827 --> 0:53:19.507 TONY i have that. Prepared love Love lock just running. 0:53:19.627 --> 0:53:23.507 Perfectly, now come, On, jack three hundred meters to, go love, 0:53:23.587 --> 0:53:25.587 luckly three hundred meters to, go love. 0:53:25.667 --> 0:53:27.867 Lock canniham gone up to text. 0:53:27.787 --> 0:53:30.227 Edition love knock out on his love boy on, ahead 0:53:30.867 --> 0:53:35.267 love luck me Love love love Love hunniam Jacka carli, Up, 0:53:35.587 --> 0:53:37.027 No I've jack a hundred. 0:53:36.827 --> 0:53:39.707 Yards to, Go come, On, jack my gott he. 0:53:39.787 --> 0:53:43.827 Done It, jack come Up lovelock Win HIVE u s 0:53:44.107 --> 0:53:48.747 got you win one, hooray love luck finding the Tax 0:53:48.987 --> 0:53:51.067 Canim tech And macarlis. 0:53:50.467 --> 0:53:53.827 Sir, yeah come, On. Jeck Harold abraham is a good 0:53:53.867 --> 0:53:56.627 friend Of Jack lovelock of, course and having the chance 0:53:57.067 --> 0:53:59.187 to call him winning that gold medal in nineteen thirty, 0:53:59.227 --> 0:54:03.467 six ninety years, ago goodness me ninety years. Ago one 0:54:03.547 --> 0:54:05.347 twenty back of a second Weekend Sport. 0:54:06.387 --> 0:54:10.107 Roots to the Grand Stand weekends fort With Jason vine 0:54:10.307 --> 0:54:13.747 and The AUDI q Seven Dynamic Black runout edition from one. 0:54:15.467 --> 0:54:18.227 Eight Hundred NEWS Talksb. 0:54:18.267 --> 0:54:20.307 News TALKS, Heb i've had a bunch of people text. Me, 0:54:20.387 --> 0:54:23.107 Yeah shannifrazel blow a hammy before the first game last, Week, 0:54:23.587 --> 0:54:28.187 Seys david And nelson hasn't taken the field. Yet another text, here, 0:54:28.587 --> 0:54:30.787 Yeah jennifrazel hasn't yet. Played this is a good one 0:54:30.827 --> 0:54:33.707 though hasn't yet played For. TASMANIA a love order Correct 0:54:35.627 --> 0:54:38.307 frazell's and it hasn't yet played For. Tasmania and then 0:54:38.507 --> 0:54:41.187 the second text came. Through WHAT i meant Was tasman, 0:54:41.427 --> 0:54:44.947 Okay Well jennifrazel look speedy. RECOVERY i hope he's back. Soon. 0:54:45.507 --> 0:54:49.227 Hamstring was, THAT i mean depends on that the seriousness of, 0:54:49.307 --> 0:54:51.307 it doesn't. It hopefully he'll be back soon For tasman 0:54:52.027 --> 0:54:55.667 Or tasmania and be eligible for The All. Blacks Arthur High, Hi, 0:54:55.867 --> 0:54:57.267 Jason i've got something. 0:54:57.747 --> 0:55:00.747 Interesting for the last hundred, YEARS i don't think it's 0:55:00.907 --> 0:55:04.907 actually ever happened In New. Zealand this joker that played 0:55:05.787 --> 0:55:08.867 Against charles nineteen seventy. One he was on the wing 0:55:08.987 --> 0:55:12.747 For taranaki and he was only. Seventeen his name Was 0:55:12.867 --> 0:55:16.347 Murray kid and he played For. Nipple he's come From 0:55:16.387 --> 0:55:18.907 New Plymouth Boys High school and his first game was 0:55:19.147 --> 0:55:21.787 against The British. Earl he's on the wing AND i 0:55:21.827 --> 0:55:24.227 don't think there's ever been a seventeen year old against. 0:55:24.307 --> 0:55:28.307 International AND i was there and every time he Tackled 0:55:28.387 --> 0:55:30.307 joker duck and the crowd would row at. Him you 0:55:30.387 --> 0:55:33.147 know how excited they were to see this young, kid you, 0:55:33.227 --> 0:55:36.427 know bowl a tackle As Joko duckham here was marking 0:55:36.467 --> 0:55:39.467 on the. WING i don't think there's been any younger 0:55:39.507 --> 0:55:43.507 person that's ever gone against. International when He's hireland only. 0:55:43.587 --> 0:55:46.587 Seventeen what a moment for, HIM i what a moment 0:55:46.787 --> 0:55:49.947 seventeen to play against an international, team but also to 0:55:50.027 --> 0:55:52.067 have the crowd on your side like. That so he 0:55:52.227 --> 0:55:54.467 must have been he must have held ten feet tall out, There. 0:55:54.587 --> 0:55:58.947 Arthur, yeah that's. Right, Yeah, yeah he came down from 0:55:59.067 --> 0:56:00.987 King country and played For. Taranaki, YEAH i. 0:56:00.987 --> 0:56:01.387 Think it was. 0:56:01.467 --> 0:56:03.107 That that's, Yeah Murray. 0:56:03.227 --> 0:56:06.187 Kidd did you say his name Was Murray? Yathur? 0:56:06.467 --> 0:56:10.547 No, no, sorry carry it certainly had the right certain 0:56:10.627 --> 0:56:11.507 name for his only. 0:56:13.307 --> 0:56:16.867 Exactly, Exactly, Arthur well seid, mate thanks for calling. In, 0:56:17.027 --> 0:56:20.307 yeah what a terrific. Memory murray, kid seventeen years old 0:56:20.347 --> 0:56:23.147 playing against The. Lions how? Good how? Good one twenty 0:56:23.227 --> 0:56:27.067 Five National Basketball league supremacy goes on the line this. 0:56:27.267 --> 0:56:30.387 Afternoon it's the defending Champion Wellington. 0:56:30.507 --> 0:56:36.827 Saints the fourth seed has dominated the First The saints 0:56:36.867 --> 0:56:39.787 will have an opportunity to go back to. Back the 0:56:39.907 --> 0:56:44.147 reigning champions storm through to The Grand final one and 0:56:44.227 --> 0:56:45.187 twelve and sixty. 0:56:45.307 --> 0:56:49.827 Nine, yeah they'll take on The Southland sharks and The Southland. 0:56:49.907 --> 0:56:52.027 Sharks we'll host the. 0:56:52.147 --> 0:56:55.787 Susand Bil Grand final in twenty twenty six and The 0:56:55.867 --> 0:56:57.947 sharks come away eighty four to seventy four. 0:56:57.987 --> 0:57:00.707 Winners it is a repeat of last Year's Grand, final 0:57:00.787 --> 0:57:02.747 this time for the first. Time it's an in The, 0:57:02.947 --> 0:57:06.067 cargo our Own Nick buley is part Of Sky Sports 0:57:06.107 --> 0:57:08.347 Cover you joins. Us now let's start with where you, Are, 0:57:08.427 --> 0:57:12.267 nick In, vericargol The Southland sharks playing their first ever 0:57:12.467 --> 0:57:17.267 Home Grand. Final how significant could that home court advantage? 0:57:17.307 --> 0:57:19.907 Be this, AFTERNOON, o good, Afternoon. 0:57:19.947 --> 0:57:22.667 Piney great to be with you as a new sort'sb 0:57:22.787 --> 0:57:23.787 celebrates one hundred. 0:57:23.867 --> 0:57:26.267 Years, LOOK i think it is. 0:57:26.347 --> 0:57:28.907 Significant these two, teams of, course met each other twice 0:57:29.467 --> 0:57:32.147 in the regular, season once in a The, cargo once 0:57:32.227 --> 0:57:35.267 at The Tearesby arena In, wellington The sharks one on 0:57:35.387 --> 0:57:38.187 home court that was way back In, may The Wellington 0:57:38.227 --> 0:57:40.227 saints one on home court just a couple of weeks. 0:57:40.267 --> 0:57:44.027 Ago but not only the home, advantage it's the first, 0:57:44.147 --> 0:57:47.747 time my, understanding the first time in the seventeen year 0:57:48.507 --> 0:57:53.347 history of The Southland sharks that they have sold Out Ilt, 0:57:53.627 --> 0:57:58.427 Stadium southland three, thousand seven hundred and seventy tickets to be. 0:57:58.627 --> 0:58:01.307 Exact so that place is going to be absolutely. 0:58:01.387 --> 0:58:03.227 Humming i've been lucky to be there a couple of 0:58:03.307 --> 0:58:07.027 times over my few years involved with The National Basketball. 0:58:07.107 --> 0:58:10.667 League and, yeah there's a few places around the country 0:58:11.467 --> 0:58:14.707 that have a fantastic home atmosphere and get behind their, 0:58:14.787 --> 0:58:17.427 team and South and would certainly be right up there 0:58:17.427 --> 0:58:19.147 in terms of the way they support not only The, 0:58:19.227 --> 0:58:22.627 sharks but The Southern steel and The Southland. Stag SO 0:58:23.027 --> 0:58:26.427 i think it could, be you, know something that will 0:58:26.467 --> 0:58:29.347 play into the advantage of The, sharks but that alone 0:58:29.787 --> 0:58:30.427 isn't going to get it. 0:58:30.507 --> 0:58:32.587 Done all, right, well fantastic they have such a big 0:58:32.627 --> 0:58:35.347 crowd in. Coming how much can we read into what 0:58:35.627 --> 0:58:38.507 happened between these two teams in the final last year 0:58:39.067 --> 0:58:42.267 or even during the regular season this. Year is any 0:58:42.307 --> 0:58:44.347 of that important or do we have a clean slate? 0:58:44.427 --> 0:58:46.347 TODAY i think the. 0:58:46.387 --> 0:58:48.827 Most recent Game, pinty given it was only a couple 0:58:48.907 --> 0:58:52.387 of weeks, ago as a real significant tail tale as 0:58:52.467 --> 0:58:56.627 to what could transpire this. Afternoon of, course South and 0:58:56.667 --> 0:58:58.667 would not want it to go that. Way they lost 0:58:59.067 --> 0:59:02.707 one hundred and nineteen to ninety. Four The Wellington saints 0:59:02.747 --> 0:59:05.027 have the best offense in the. League they averaged just 0:59:05.107 --> 0:59:07.427 to tick over one hundred points the, game and they 0:59:07.467 --> 0:59:10.867 were absolutely humming on that. Occasion and they've found form 0:59:10.987 --> 0:59:13.347 at the best possible. Time let's not forget just a 0:59:13.427 --> 0:59:16.987 week ago they went up To auckland and absolutely ran 0:59:17.227 --> 0:59:20.147 through the top seed At auckland Till atara one hundred 0:59:20.147 --> 0:59:23.827 and twelve to sixty, Nine so that that's a potential 0:59:24.027 --> 0:59:25.707 sign as to what could happen this. 0:59:25.827 --> 0:59:27.307 Afternoon and saying. 0:59:27.107 --> 0:59:30.387 That though you know on that day everything went right For, 0:59:30.507 --> 0:59:35.027 wellington you had seventeen made three. Pointers for The, saints 0:59:35.107 --> 0:59:38.507 you Had Elijah, pepper the LEAGUE, mvp scoring twenty nine, 0:59:38.547 --> 0:59:41.267 points but you also had that support cast and around 0:59:41.347 --> 0:59:44.747 him with A Keitcher lea scoring twenty six, Points Carlin 0:59:44.867 --> 0:59:49.107 davison almost a triple, double so that that could. Happen 0:59:49.187 --> 0:59:51.827 but at the same time Too. SOUTHLAND i was there 0:59:51.907 --> 0:59:54.787 in Christ church seven days. Ago it was a real 0:59:54.867 --> 0:59:57.587 sort of playoff grind type of the game as opposed 0:59:57.627 --> 1:00:01.147 to know everything flowing, offensively but they found a way 1:00:01.387 --> 1:00:04.187 and perhaps you know that that's a sign. Too in finals, 1:00:04.267 --> 1:00:07.907 games your defense is just as important as your offense 1:00:08.027 --> 1:00:11.747 and limiting the opposition's. Opportunities they held The Canterbury rams 1:00:11.827 --> 1:00:15.787 to seventy four. Points SO i don't think last year's 1:00:15.907 --> 1:00:19.747 final matters from a form perspective because they are quite different, 1:00:19.827 --> 1:00:24.227 teams but it Certainly lingers and stings still. 1:00:24.387 --> 1:00:27.587 For The Southland. Sharks not often you see pinety. 1:00:28.947 --> 1:00:33.227 Import players From america come, Back Caleb asbrey And Kiln. 1:00:33.267 --> 1:00:36.627 Boone they came back after last year's disappointment to right 1:00:36.707 --> 1:00:39.907 a few wrongs here. Today and the coach as, Well 1:00:39.987 --> 1:00:42.307 Jonathan yeim in his second year in the. League you, 1:00:42.347 --> 1:00:45.627 know he's sort of spoken publicly about the minutes after 1:00:45.707 --> 1:00:48.547 losing The Grand final last year and how basically a 1:00:48.627 --> 1:00:50.107 lot of them in the group would just, say, right 1:00:50.267 --> 1:00:52.467 let's run it back next year and go one. 1:00:52.547 --> 1:00:54.027 Better they get that opportunity this. 1:00:54.107 --> 1:00:58.067 Afternoon, Absolutely redemption absolutely is on the menu For southland this. 1:00:58.187 --> 1:01:00.707 Afternoon in order to get, it they need to Stop 1:01:00.747 --> 1:01:05.067 Elijah pepper SEASON, mvp scoring it close to twenty nine 1:01:05.107 --> 1:01:08.267 points a. Game can one to actually stop? Him or 1:01:08.587 --> 1:01:10.827 is it more about trying to make his life as 1:01:10.907 --> 1:01:11.947 difficult as possible? 1:01:12.027 --> 1:01:15.227 Today, YEAH i think the, Latter, PINEY i. 1:01:15.347 --> 1:01:16.867 Think you, know you look over the course of the, 1:01:16.947 --> 1:01:20.467 LEAGUE i think only the last once in the last nineteen, 1:01:20.547 --> 1:01:22.387 games which is pretty much the bulk of the, season 1:01:22.467 --> 1:01:24.107 Has Elijah pepper not scored. 1:01:23.867 --> 1:01:26.747 Twenty points in his last seven. Games he's scored at 1:01:26.827 --> 1:01:27.387 least twenty. 1:01:27.467 --> 1:01:31.467 Seven, interestingly, though for, me the last When southland Beat 1:01:32.307 --> 1:01:35.387 wellington in the regular, Season Elijah pepper. 1:01:35.147 --> 1:01:38.507 Scored forty three points and that was still in a. 1:01:38.627 --> 1:01:41.947 Loss so for, me that sort of speaks To, Look 1:01:42.067 --> 1:01:43.547 Elijah pepper is going to get his. 1:01:43.667 --> 1:01:46.067 Shots as he says the LEAGUE. Mvp he is an 1:01:46.067 --> 1:01:49.467 absolute scoring. Machine he can get to the basket and 1:01:49.707 --> 1:01:52.187 kill you in the mid, range and he's an elite 1:01:52.267 --> 1:01:53.227 three point shooter as. 1:01:53.307 --> 1:01:58.067 Well it's more about containing and limiting the support cast 1:01:58.187 --> 1:02:01.587 for south and Forcing Elijah pepper into some of the 1:02:01.627 --> 1:02:03.587 shots that he doesn't like as. 1:02:03.747 --> 1:02:07.867 Much that feels like the strategy for, me because if 1:02:07.907 --> 1:02:08.827 you try and. 1:02:09.387 --> 1:02:12.867 Double Team Elijah, pepper ultimately you're going to leave someone else. 1:02:12.947 --> 1:02:16.627 Open if you get a ketcher there starting to hit 1:02:16.707 --> 1:02:19.507 his shots At Dante agra mccarl And, davis and then 1:02:19.627 --> 1:02:21.827 things become a lot harder for The Southern. 1:02:21.907 --> 1:02:24.507 Sharks all, right let's go to The sharks, then and 1:02:24.787 --> 1:02:28.627 you land naturally on their point Guard Ryland jones as 1:02:28.707 --> 1:02:32.387 a potentially key part of their. Team terrific season FAN. 1:02:32.587 --> 1:02:35.587 Mvp how integral and how crucial might he be this? 1:02:35.747 --> 1:02:38.907 Afternoon, YEAH i really Like Ryland jones first year in the. 1:02:38.987 --> 1:02:43.107 League as you, say traditional point. Guard he doesn't have 1:02:43.267 --> 1:02:46.867 to go above and beyond to facilitate the. Offense he 1:02:47.067 --> 1:02:48.867 feels like a little bit of a glue, guy but 1:02:49.187 --> 1:02:52.907 he's just always there and doing something and making a positive. 1:02:52.947 --> 1:02:56.907 Contribution seven is fifteen points a, game even six. Rebounds 1:02:56.947 --> 1:02:58.387 it just seems to be in the right place at 1:02:58.387 --> 1:03:01.107 the right time to then allow The sharks to get 1:03:01.147 --> 1:03:05.227 out and run on. Transition so between He Caleb, asbury 1:03:05.227 --> 1:03:07.067 who as a, mention was here last, year have a 1:03:07.187 --> 1:03:07.867 real chip on his. 1:03:07.987 --> 1:03:10.027 Shoulder he didn't make The All star. 1:03:09.947 --> 1:03:13.067 Five piney and he's let everyone know already on social 1:03:13.107 --> 1:03:16.267 media and some of The Sky sport commentary team And 1:03:16.587 --> 1:03:19.347 Sam turmmans as, Well Defensive player of The. Year just 1:03:19.467 --> 1:03:22.187 a focal, point the yankeor down there in the. Interior so, 1:03:22.747 --> 1:03:24.547 look The Southern shows has got a lot of key. 1:03:24.627 --> 1:03:29.187 Pieces but if someone Like Ryland jones in particular can support, 1:03:29.267 --> 1:03:32.987 You Caleb asbury's You Sam timmons from a scoring perspective 1:03:33.027 --> 1:03:35.267 as much as a facilitation and really is going to 1:03:35.267 --> 1:03:38.627 be the sum of all parts today For. Southland, look 1:03:38.627 --> 1:03:43.467 they've got guys who can score certainly great defensive unit as. 1:03:43.467 --> 1:03:46.827 Well but if everyone can can buy and get a 1:03:46.907 --> 1:03:50.787 little bit extraduce out of The orange from, everyone then 1:03:51.227 --> 1:03:53.507 that'll go a long way to giving them the outcome 1:03:53.547 --> 1:03:54.347 they so desperately. 1:03:54.387 --> 1:03:56.187 Crave, well you've mentioned a lot of players from the 1:03:56.227 --> 1:03:59.827 starting fives from both. Sides who has the deeper, Bench. 1:04:01.267 --> 1:04:01.867 Oh that's a great. 1:04:01.947 --> 1:04:06.267 Question i'd stay Probably, wellington although there are question mark 1:04:06.707 --> 1:04:10.587 Around Hiram. Harris he's currently listed as. Questionable he rolled 1:04:10.627 --> 1:04:13.667 his ankle in that semi final win over The Auckland. 1:04:13.747 --> 1:04:16.747 Tuittara of, course as you, Know Pioneers Grand FINAL mvp 1:04:16.907 --> 1:04:19.587 in this very matchup last year twenty, points fourteen. 1:04:19.667 --> 1:04:23.267 Rebounds he's the, heartbeat all Hustle Hiram. 1:04:23.307 --> 1:04:27.107 Harris if he's, out then Coach Aaron young is going 1:04:27.187 --> 1:04:29.587 to have to go deeper down his. Bench but they've 1:04:29.627 --> 1:04:32.307 got guys Like Jordan hunt who come off the bench 1:04:32.867 --> 1:04:35.427 who can certainly have an. Impact Sam gold as another 1:04:35.507 --> 1:04:38.707 player for The Southland, SHARKS i really like that they 1:04:38.747 --> 1:04:42.947 Have Tobias, cameron son of the Great Pido cameron off 1:04:43.227 --> 1:04:45.787 their bench and he's just a real good glue. Guy 1:04:45.867 --> 1:04:50.547 he'll Make he'll probably come on and Defend Elijah pepper 1:04:50.627 --> 1:04:52.347 and try and make his life as difficult as. 1:04:52.427 --> 1:04:53.427 Possible but that. 1:04:53.547 --> 1:04:55.427 Both these, teams by the point you get in this 1:04:55.547 --> 1:04:58.947 season where It's Grand, Final, piney they're rarely running a 1:04:59.267 --> 1:05:02.427 six or seven man rotation at. 1:05:02.547 --> 1:05:05.947 Best they used to. That i'd be surprised to see 1:05:06.787 --> 1:05:07.507 our super young. 1:05:07.547 --> 1:05:09.667 Players but who, knows it might be an opportunity for 1:05:10.267 --> 1:05:13.867 An Aubrey hunger out Of wellington to make a hero 1:05:14.107 --> 1:05:16.307 or a name of himself with a couple of big 1:05:16.347 --> 1:05:16.867 plays off the. 1:05:16.907 --> 1:05:20.067 Bench, well speaking of big, plays big basketball games in, 1:05:20.107 --> 1:05:22.467 fact any basketball, game but big ones in, particular can 1:05:22.667 --> 1:05:25.267 change quickly in a couple of, possessions a big, three a, 1:05:25.387 --> 1:05:28.347 turnover a run of six or eight. Points which of 1:05:28.467 --> 1:05:31.267 these two teams do you think has the greater capacity 1:05:31.827 --> 1:05:33.347 to produce that decisive. 1:05:33.467 --> 1:05:37.387 Run, oh that's a beautiful thing about basketballs And, piney 1:05:37.747 --> 1:05:41.427 you never quite know until the. Day compared to, yeah 1:05:41.827 --> 1:05:45.147 a rugby game or, football it feels like you can 1:05:45.307 --> 1:05:48.787 just change in a made, shot defensive. 1:05:48.907 --> 1:05:51.147 PLAY i look At Wellington saints. 1:05:50.947 --> 1:05:53.867 Though and the, way particularly in the last three or four, 1:05:53.907 --> 1:05:58.747 weeks have won their last five and by significant margins as. 1:05:58.787 --> 1:06:01.107 Well AND i even just cast my mind, back you, 1:06:01.187 --> 1:06:04.467 know the semi final last, week it was even reasonably 1:06:04.587 --> 1:06:07.307 close sort of first, quarter they started to push in the, 1:06:07.387 --> 1:06:09.867 second and then they just absolutely put their foot down 1:06:09.907 --> 1:06:12.067 in the third and saying that Those southland you, know 1:06:12.187 --> 1:06:14.107 they jumped out to a double digit lead over The 1:06:14.187 --> 1:06:17.427 Canterbury rams last. Week canterbury climbed all their way back, 1:06:17.507 --> 1:06:20.667 in you, know came back from seventeen. 1:06:20.307 --> 1:06:22.187 Down to tie things up at the end of the third. 1:06:22.307 --> 1:06:25.067 Quarter But Caleb asbry back to back threes to open 1:06:25.147 --> 1:06:28.267 the fourth and that Set southland on its. Way so, 1:06:28.467 --> 1:06:31.387 look both of these, teams that's what makes this Afternoon's 1:06:31.387 --> 1:06:33.147 Grand finals so. GOOD i reckon it's a bit of 1:06:33.187 --> 1:06:35.227 a marketer's, dream of, course because you've got that redemption 1:06:35.387 --> 1:06:38.547 Story Grand final repeater last. Year but you've got so 1:06:38.747 --> 1:06:43.667 much elite production in these both these two. TEAMS i 1:06:43.947 --> 1:06:46.347 just hope it lives up to its billing because this. 1:06:46.427 --> 1:06:48.467 Could ebb and. Flow as we saw last. 1:06:48.507 --> 1:06:51.987 Year it wasn't really until the last heck thirty forty 1:06:52.067 --> 1:06:55.827 seconds Where wellington could perhaps you know that they were 1:06:55.867 --> 1:06:59.107 going to be lifting a banner for a thirteenth, time all. 1:06:59.067 --> 1:07:01.747 Right just before you go just up the road in 1:07:01.907 --> 1:07:03.787 the not to just in, Future canterbury are going to 1:07:03.827 --> 1:07:06.747 try and wrestle The Ranfully shell back From. Otarga, now 1:07:06.787 --> 1:07:11.307 of course you cover all forms Of canterbury, sport you 1:07:11.387 --> 1:07:14.187 reckon that when you get back to Christ it whenever that, 1:07:14.427 --> 1:07:16.067 is the shield will be there as. 1:07:16.147 --> 1:07:21.787 Well oh, here, LOOK i think that that's a game 1:07:21.867 --> 1:07:26.027 that has significant potential to go right the distance as. 1:07:26.027 --> 1:07:28.627 Well i've really liked What otago particularly did last. 1:07:28.667 --> 1:07:32.227 YEAR i was fortunate enough to call The Ranville shield 1:07:32.267 --> 1:07:34.947 win they had Over canterbury last. Year and in speaking 1:07:34.987 --> 1:07:37.827 of redemption the grand final between the two, teams When 1:07:37.907 --> 1:07:40.707 canterbury Beat otaga to win THE Npc trophy so early 1:07:40.787 --> 1:07:41.787 in the season it was quite. 1:07:41.667 --> 1:07:43.227 Hard to get a real read On. 1:07:43.307 --> 1:07:45.827 Otaga they were actually hearing In maccargo last Week stag 1:07:46.027 --> 1:07:49.987 they beat Beat southland quite. Comfortably they don't Have Dylan 1:07:50.067 --> 1:07:52.387 pledge at the moment is their real spark, plug but 1:07:52.507 --> 1:07:56.627 Still Lucas casey And Christian Leo william and THERE i 1:07:56.707 --> 1:07:59.427 was actually speaking To otago Coach Mark brown because funnily 1:07:59.507 --> 1:08:03.867 enough he's my wife's Boss piney and in another job 1:08:04.027 --> 1:08:06.307 that is my wife doesn't work for The Otago, union, 1:08:06.547 --> 1:08:08.947 okay BUT i was having to reach out to him 1:08:09.187 --> 1:08:10.707 earlier in the week and he, said we're not out 1:08:10.787 --> 1:08:13.227 to defend the Ran Philly. Shield we want to win 1:08:13.307 --> 1:08:16.067 it again and our style is, attack, attack attack under 1:08:16.067 --> 1:08:16.907 the roof At Forsyth. 1:08:16.987 --> 1:08:19.427 BAR i think they'll have a real, go so too 1:08:19.467 --> 1:08:20.067 Will canterbury. 1:08:20.067 --> 1:08:22.507 THOUGH i Mean richie men are at ten and The 1:08:22.587 --> 1:08:24.627 Evergreen johnny McNichol at full. 1:08:24.507 --> 1:08:26.427 Back that they've got a lot of potential as. 1:08:26.467 --> 1:08:28.507 Well So i'll be keeping half an eye on how 1:08:28.587 --> 1:08:30.027 things go up, there, owd that's for, sure all. 1:08:30.107 --> 1:08:32.387 Right so just after two o'clock and duneed and It's 1:08:33.027 --> 1:08:36.187 targo Against canterbury for the Ram Philly shield three o'clock this. 1:08:36.307 --> 1:08:40.267 Afternoon and in The cargo SELLS Nbl Grand Final Southland 1:08:40.347 --> 1:08:42.067 Sharks Wellington. Saints who you Got. 1:08:43.387 --> 1:08:45.267 I'll put on the cout, Here, Piney i'll Go. Sharks 1:08:46.707 --> 1:08:47.267 regardless of. 1:08:47.307 --> 1:08:49.507 That it's been good to talk to you and we 1:08:49.787 --> 1:08:52.267 hopefully will get the opportunity to do that again. 1:08:52.427 --> 1:08:55.267 Soon cheer's, MATE i love. IT i appreciate you you 1:08:55.427 --> 1:08:57.987 taking the time to get basketball on the. Airwaves you're 1:08:57.987 --> 1:09:00.307 a big supporter of the, sports so really appreciate. 1:08:59.987 --> 1:09:01.987 It now good, Man. Nick thanks, Indeed nick biorly part 1:09:01.987 --> 1:09:04.827 Of Sky sports coverage of The National Basketball League final 1:09:04.947 --> 1:09:07.867 this afternoon just after. Three that game kicks off at 1:09:07.907 --> 1:09:11.267 what sounds like it'll be a jam packed, Stadium, southland 1:09:11.667 --> 1:09:14.427 The Southland sharks against The Wellington saints for the twenty 1:09:14.507 --> 1:09:19.067 twenty Six National Basketball league. Title coming up twenty two to. 1:09:19.227 --> 1:09:21.667 Two when we come, back we go To. France that's 1:09:21.707 --> 1:09:24.267 Where james mccony is as always in A Sunday he'll 1:09:24.347 --> 1:09:27.907 join us with his sporting. Musings after this the. 1:09:28.027 --> 1:09:31.907 Biggest names in sports talk TO Fini Weekend sport With 1:09:32.227 --> 1:09:36.027 Jason vine and THE ldiq Seven Dynamic Black runout edition 1:09:36.307 --> 1:09:39.867 includes thirty thousand dollars of premium, upgrades youth talks and be. 1:09:40.347 --> 1:09:43.507 Coming up nineteen minutes away from Two sunday. AFTERNOONS i 1:09:43.667 --> 1:09:45.547 mean a lot of things on this. Show they mean 1:09:45.587 --> 1:09:48.027 a chat To james, mccony one of my favorite times 1:09:48.707 --> 1:09:50.787 on the radio, show one of my favorite times of the. 1:09:50.827 --> 1:09:51.827 Week how are you? Mate? 1:09:52.987 --> 1:09:56.787 Ah bon sois, bonjour monsieur jesson. 1:09:57.027 --> 1:09:59.427 Bean i'm very. 1:09:59.547 --> 1:10:00.187 Well it's CRAP. 1:10:00.227 --> 1:10:06.547 BMSC i take it from that opening salvo the you're 1:10:06.587 --> 1:10:09.307 somewhere in the south Of, france is? This AM i 1:10:09.467 --> 1:10:09.947 correct in that? 1:10:10.027 --> 1:10:13.147 Assumption, yes you are. 1:10:13.267 --> 1:10:15.707 RIGHT i am in the south Of france in a 1:10:15.747 --> 1:10:19.427 place Called, carcasson which is not far From, toulouse and 1:10:19.987 --> 1:10:23.347 as it's a very historic place with the largest walled 1:10:23.467 --> 1:10:27.747 city in all Of, europe and as seen in Robin 1:10:27.787 --> 1:10:30.747 hood At prince Of, thieves it's quite a popular place 1:10:30.827 --> 1:10:31.787 to film some. 1:10:32.027 --> 1:10:34.107 Movies so if you ever see somewhere with a lot of, 1:10:34.227 --> 1:10:36.547 turrets it might Be. Carcasson. 1:10:36.827 --> 1:10:38.987 Wonderful, well it's great to have you beaming. In hopefully 1:10:39.027 --> 1:10:41.387 you've been keeping an eye on bits and pieces Of 1:10:41.707 --> 1:10:43.987 New zealand. Sport did you manage to catch The All 1:10:44.027 --> 1:10:46.827 blacks against The, stormers for? EXAMPLE i? 1:10:46.947 --> 1:10:49.467 DID i saw. It it was you, know chalk it. 1:10:49.587 --> 1:10:53.067 Up it's a start and look there with debuts as. 1:10:53.107 --> 1:10:56.227 Well good to See Josh jacob get. ON i think 1:10:56.307 --> 1:11:00.347 that you, Know Antonin seigner And Fabian holland did pretty. 1:11:00.387 --> 1:11:05.707 Well Sam darry keeps on improving his, stocks And Josh 1:11:05.787 --> 1:11:08.347 morby some touches at, fullback which is in you, know 1:11:08.427 --> 1:11:10.147 you got to try as, well which is great to, 1:11:10.227 --> 1:11:16.147 see but, look it Wasn't it wasn't an outstanding, game 1:11:16.187 --> 1:11:18.867 but there were reasons for. That AND i do have 1:11:19.467 --> 1:11:21.267 concerns about rugby at the, moment. 1:11:21.227 --> 1:11:23.027 Do, you BECAUSE i was going to ask you about. 1:11:23.027 --> 1:11:25.907 That i'm not sure whether you Caught Argentina South africa 1:11:25.947 --> 1:11:27.387 because that was a bit of a tough watch as. 1:11:27.427 --> 1:11:32.027 Well, yes and this is the whole thing with rugby is, 1:11:32.067 --> 1:11:34.907 that you, KNOW i think rugby is suffering from an identity. 1:11:34.987 --> 1:11:36.627 Crisis it doesn't know what it. 1:11:36.827 --> 1:11:39.227 Is you, know when we were growing, up rugby was 1:11:39.267 --> 1:11:41.667 the game they played in heaven And i'm not sure 1:11:42.107 --> 1:11:45.827 How god Or Saint peter would explain the rucking back, 1:11:45.907 --> 1:11:48.747 then the fist fights and the scrotum, grabbing but, hey 1:11:49.227 --> 1:11:53.067 it was beloved and it had a. Brand and also 1:11:53.227 --> 1:11:55.987 nations Like New zealand And france Played champagne, rugby you, 1:11:56.027 --> 1:11:58.987 know and that was that was sort of part of 1:11:59.027 --> 1:12:02.467 it as, well just expressing. Yourself and now it's a 1:12:02.547 --> 1:12:07.827 game of, stoppages video ref interferences and box cacks and 1:12:07.907 --> 1:12:10.627 they still haven't sorted out scrummery sets in my, opinion 1:12:10.787 --> 1:12:15.067 and most what would you call it neutrals or casuals 1:12:15.747 --> 1:12:17.067 are still confused by the. 1:12:17.147 --> 1:12:19.507 Game, yeah AND i guess that is one of the big, 1:12:19.587 --> 1:12:22.107 challenges isn't it? FAKE i, mean rugby will always have 1:12:22.227 --> 1:12:25.107 its die hard, fans particularly In New. Zealand you, know 1:12:25.227 --> 1:12:26.867 we grew up watching the. Game i'm going to watch 1:12:26.907 --> 1:12:29.267 The All blacks every single time they. Play i'll tolerate 1:12:29.347 --> 1:12:32.067 all that. Stuff i'll watch rugby BECAUSE i love. Rugby 1:12:32.187 --> 1:12:35.627 but your discretionary, fan as you, say your casual, observer 1:12:36.467 --> 1:12:38.467 will take one look at the first half of The 1:12:38.507 --> 1:12:41.507 All Black, stormers which actually took fifty one minutes to, 1:12:41.627 --> 1:12:43.387 complete and so what's going on? 1:12:43.587 --> 1:12:43.747 Here? 1:12:44.947 --> 1:12:46.987 Yeah put it this, way, LIKE i love rugby as, 1:12:47.027 --> 1:12:49.907 well so don't get me, Wrong i'm all inn. Really 1:12:51.667 --> 1:12:53.987 but in the same time that rugby has steadily gotten 1:12:54.067 --> 1:12:57.227 harder to, watch rugby league has improved out of. Sight you, 1:12:57.307 --> 1:13:00.347 know they've outlawed high contact as. Well they don't tolerate 1:13:00.427 --> 1:13:02.867 slowing the ball down and the six again rule has 1:13:02.907 --> 1:13:06.147 pretty much made monster forwards Like nelson Us off or 1:13:06.147 --> 1:13:06.667 so and more. 1:13:06.987 --> 1:13:09.827 Extinct you. Know so they're ruthless in. 1:13:09.947 --> 1:13:12.787 Terms of trying to improve the game for everyone to, 1:13:13.267 --> 1:13:16.947 watch whereas rugby hasn't been able to do anything. MEANINGFUL 1:13:17.067 --> 1:13:20.347 i don't think to change the, game and partly that's 1:13:20.427 --> 1:13:23.067 politics and world. Rugby we don't need to get into. 1:13:23.147 --> 1:13:25.747 That but you know the issue is that one in 1:13:25.867 --> 1:13:28.667 five rugby games is incredible and it gives all of 1:13:28.747 --> 1:13:30.947 us hope because everyone, goes, wow did you see that? 1:13:31.107 --> 1:13:35.147 Game and then we're, back you, Know so that's that's 1:13:35.387 --> 1:13:37.707 all it's got in its. Favor but WHAT i hope 1:13:37.827 --> 1:13:40.227 is that you, know the marketing departments are working over, 1:13:40.307 --> 1:13:41.987 time aren't they trying to sell the game with the 1:13:42.027 --> 1:13:44.507 greatest rivalry and all that sort of, Stuff and we're 1:13:44.547 --> 1:13:45.187 all going to watch. 1:13:45.227 --> 1:13:47.347 It i'm going to be glued to the, telly can't 1:13:47.347 --> 1:13:47.947 wait to see what. 1:13:48.107 --> 1:13:50.547 Happens BUT i just, hope and, LOOK i Think David 1:13:50.587 --> 1:13:53.027 reni's showing signs of that is that we see the 1:13:53.107 --> 1:13:55.747 ball in hand, more that we actually see teams trying 1:13:55.787 --> 1:14:00.307 to show what they can, do and that those have 1:14:00.547 --> 1:14:03.627 sort of been the indications from. This Dave renni coached All. 1:14:03.667 --> 1:14:05.707 Blacks you're really interesting to hear him say that as, 1:14:05.747 --> 1:14:09.147 well because most coaches just try to win rugby matches 1:14:09.667 --> 1:14:12.107 one way or the. Other in any fashion that is 1:14:12.547 --> 1:14:15.667 available to. Them, Yeah Dave renny very early on. Didn't he, said, 1:14:15.987 --> 1:14:18.627 look we know that that rugby's in a battle for, 1:14:18.707 --> 1:14:20.787 eyeballs and we need to play our, part WHICH i 1:14:20.827 --> 1:14:24.707 think is actually a really, progressive you, know outlook for 1:14:24.787 --> 1:14:26.947 a guy who lives and dies by whether his team 1:14:26.987 --> 1:14:27.387 wins or. 1:14:27.467 --> 1:14:31.067 Not, Yeah and it's kind of interesting BECAUSE i looked 1:14:31.107 --> 1:14:32.787 at that game and it was really in the balance 1:14:32.827 --> 1:14:36.267 and even you, know When Peter arco through that nice 1:14:36.307 --> 1:14:39.387 off load To Leroy, CARTER i mean could have been 1:14:39.427 --> 1:14:40.627 called back being. 1:14:40.747 --> 1:14:42.667 Forward it was definitely line ball And. 1:14:43.227 --> 1:14:46.587 Carter had to beat three, players but The All blacks 1:14:47.187 --> 1:14:49.227 were really in a tussle up until. Then you, know 1:14:49.427 --> 1:14:51.307 that fat call had gone the other, way then, hey 1:14:51.387 --> 1:14:54.147 it could have just been one of the great upsets 1:14:54.187 --> 1:14:57.107 that we're talking about. Now but, hey you, know the 1:14:57.187 --> 1:14:59.587 last quarter against those, teams you can see some class 1:15:00.827 --> 1:15:01.587 comes through at. 1:15:01.667 --> 1:15:03.907 Least BUT i, WAS i was a little bit. 1:15:03.867 --> 1:15:06.187 Concerned AND i think we've talked about DU persecti, ME 1:15:06.347 --> 1:15:08.027 i don't have to go on about, it BUT i 1:15:08.107 --> 1:15:11.427 saw him play so well at twelve with that setting 1:15:11.507 --> 1:15:15.987 up that try Against, auckland just, thinking you, know sometimes 1:15:16.067 --> 1:15:20.267 rugby isn't necessarily about, saying, hey we want the biggest 1:15:20.347 --> 1:15:23.307 player or the player who's showing up best in. Stats 1:15:23.627 --> 1:15:25.347 it is a game when it comes down to, it you, 1:15:25.427 --> 1:15:29.027 know and there's lots of players who actually can impact 1:15:29.107 --> 1:15:33.067 the game just because they're the best at that specific 1:15:34.627 --> 1:15:37.267 moment if you, like you, know what's put in front of, 1:15:37.347 --> 1:15:40.707 them they can rise to the. Occasion and that's WHERE 1:15:40.747 --> 1:15:42.587 i want to see from this what would you call 1:15:42.627 --> 1:15:45.747 it midwek team from The All blacks is who are 1:15:45.747 --> 1:15:46.867 the players that are going to rise to the? 1:15:46.907 --> 1:15:48.307 Occasion, yeah me? Too me. 1:15:48.467 --> 1:15:50.907 Too can ask About Tim payne a couple of months, 1:15:50.947 --> 1:15:52.787 ago if you'd said To Tim, payne you're going to 1:15:52.827 --> 1:15:55.707 be playing football In, paraguay coming off the bench on 1:15:55.787 --> 1:16:00.627 your debut and scoring an absolute, banger he would have, said, 1:16:00.627 --> 1:16:02.507 No Now i'm going to be in pre season With Wellington. 1:16:02.587 --> 1:16:07.587 Phoenix isn't this an incredible tale that because of one 1:16:08.587 --> 1:16:11.987 post on social media buy a bloke In South america 1:16:12.147 --> 1:16:14.307 with a you, know quite a few, followers That Tim 1:16:14.427 --> 1:16:18.667 payne's life arc has changed like. 1:16:18.827 --> 1:16:20.507 THAT i. 1:16:20.627 --> 1:16:22.267 Know it's it's even bigger than the. Movie if you 1:16:22.387 --> 1:16:24.787 make if this was a. Movie people wouldn't even believe. 1:16:24.827 --> 1:16:27.547 It let's, say oh, no it's just so far, fetched it's. 1:16:27.627 --> 1:16:31.547 Crazy so So Tim pain this, goal just to put it, 1:16:32.227 --> 1:16:34.547 mildly like you, said it's a, banger it's a. Worldie 1:16:35.827 --> 1:16:38.347 he started the movement as well in his own half 1:16:38.827 --> 1:16:41.947 and set the winger. Free the winger squares it outside the. 1:16:42.067 --> 1:16:45.107 Area Tim payin hits it first, time curling into the 1:16:45.187 --> 1:16:47.867 top corner or near the top, corner away from the. 1:16:47.987 --> 1:16:50.987 Keeper so first time SHOTS i watched in most of 1:16:50.987 --> 1:16:52.707 The World, CUP i don't THINK i saw a decent 1:16:52.787 --> 1:16:54.787 first time shot as good As Tim pain's in the 1:16:55.027 --> 1:16:55.867 Entire World. 1:16:55.947 --> 1:16:58.467 Cup you know What i'm talking, About piney no, one. 1:16:59.867 --> 1:16:59.907 No. 1:17:00.027 --> 1:17:02.147 One most people who can have control. 1:17:01.867 --> 1:17:03.947 Of the ball and they banging it in you know 1:17:04.387 --> 1:17:07.427 where the spiders, live top. Bins but and of course 1:17:07.467 --> 1:17:10.547 there were some great goals Carbo verdi is It sydney 1:17:10.627 --> 1:17:13.467 Cabral you know there's some, beauties absolute. Beauties but That 1:17:13.627 --> 1:17:17.307 timpain goal was crazy so, good AND i just wonder 1:17:17.387 --> 1:17:19.107 whether did the always get it? 1:17:19.227 --> 1:17:21.227 Right did we with someone Like Tim. 1:17:21.307 --> 1:17:23.347 Payne we sort of, tried and we wanted them to 1:17:23.427 --> 1:17:25.787 sort of calm down and, say, look just do your, 1:17:25.867 --> 1:17:27.987 job blah blah, Blah but maybe we should have done 1:17:28.067 --> 1:17:31.187 the exact opposite and, Said Tim, payin you're you, know 1:17:31.227 --> 1:17:33.907 you've got six million, followers must feel good you take 1:17:33.947 --> 1:17:34.387 the free. 1:17:34.347 --> 1:17:38.107 Kicks yes you, know, yes you, know like just you 1:17:38.347 --> 1:17:39.707 go on marauding runs. 1:17:39.547 --> 1:17:42.027 Up front because you the world wants to see, you 1:17:42.227 --> 1:17:45.147 and maybe you just just because you've got that kind 1:17:45.187 --> 1:17:47.827 of confidence that only six million followers can give. You 1:17:48.547 --> 1:17:51.587 that just set them. Free whereas we did this Classic kiwi, 1:17:51.667 --> 1:17:54.027 thing didn't We, na he's just going to focus on as, 1:17:54.067 --> 1:17:55.187 football don't worry about. 1:17:55.227 --> 1:17:58.187 Him, wrong, wrong so. 1:17:58.507 --> 1:18:00.707 True BUT i keep coming back to, it you, KNOW 1:18:00.707 --> 1:18:03.947 i keep coming back to The argentine influencer who was 1:18:04.067 --> 1:18:07.067 just trying to find the least fallow person at The 1:18:07.147 --> 1:18:11.227 World cup and he just landed On. Timpaine it was complete, 1:18:11.827 --> 1:18:15.547 luck complete good, fortune and it has set off this 1:18:15.827 --> 1:18:19.107 chain of events which has led to something that none of, 1:18:19.227 --> 1:18:23.547 us Particularly, timpaine could possibly have. IMAGINED a couple of months, 1:18:23.587 --> 1:18:24.787 Ago no. 1:18:24.947 --> 1:18:25.587 And you AND i were. 1:18:25.627 --> 1:18:27.467 Talking we were, saying look the way only way to 1:18:27.547 --> 1:18:30.467 maximize us because that guy was From. Argentina most of 1:18:30.547 --> 1:18:34.827 his followers are From Latin america and they Were spanish, 1:18:34.867 --> 1:18:38.467 speaking and even the brains like REMEMBER Kfc brazil and 1:18:38.547 --> 1:18:41.987 all those sort of sliding dunks And Donuts argentina or, 1:18:42.027 --> 1:18:44.507 whatever you, know like big brands but based in those, 1:18:44.587 --> 1:18:49.107 countries just sliding into his dms and onto his. Comments 1:18:49.587 --> 1:18:52.147 so you're not going to reach them by playing for 1:18:52.227 --> 1:18:55.987 The phoenix or even going to the you, KNOW mls 1:18:56.147 --> 1:18:57.107 or whatever you want to do In. 1:18:57.147 --> 1:18:59.467 America you have to go To South. 1:18:59.507 --> 1:19:01.707 America so we went To, paraguay WHICH i thought was 1:19:02.227 --> 1:19:04.507 a bit of a dodgy landing spot BECAUSE i, thought. 1:19:04.387 --> 1:19:08.267 Oh paraguay really beve it doesn't. Matter he's there doing. 1:19:08.347 --> 1:19:10.707 It it's visible and everyone's seeing what he can. 1:19:10.827 --> 1:19:13.187 Do which is the best goal of his entire. 1:19:13.267 --> 1:19:17.507 Career, yeah amazing, Stuff amazing stuff From Tim. Payne, WELL 1:19:17.667 --> 1:19:20.347 i think that's it messy as they, say and you're 1:19:20.427 --> 1:19:22.427 part of the world and Are revoir. 1:19:23.947 --> 1:19:27.187 Did the am pony which is you're welcome was nothing at. 1:19:27.227 --> 1:19:28.987 All and by the, WAY i did catch up With 1:19:29.147 --> 1:19:34.147 mike clamp And Nigel. Gainey if Any Wellington rugby fans 1:19:34.187 --> 1:19:36.427 And Sean spring as, well that's a bit of a deep. 1:19:36.467 --> 1:19:38.067 Cut if you're A wellington rugby. 1:19:37.867 --> 1:19:40.947 Fan and they all live in Bear ritz and they 1:19:41.027 --> 1:19:44.027 all catch up and there's a good bunch of kiwi's 1:19:44.067 --> 1:19:45.947 there and it was wonderful to see. 1:19:45.987 --> 1:19:48.467 Them Mike clamp not bad on the guitar at. 1:19:48.507 --> 1:19:51.747 All so you, know the sad thing is is that 1:19:51.907 --> 1:19:54.587 the only LYRICS i knew all from start to finish 1:19:54.907 --> 1:19:58.107 With George michael's. Songs so please don't judge. Me and 1:19:59.107 --> 1:20:00.987 you know that's All i'll. Say maybe you could play 1:20:01.027 --> 1:20:01.827 us out with a bit of. 1:20:01.907 --> 1:20:07.267 Faith DOES i. 1:20:07.307 --> 1:20:07.987 Gotta have the. 1:20:17.947 --> 1:20:22.507 Biggest names and sport are Here Weekend sport With Jason, 1:20:22.627 --> 1:20:23.787 Vine News TALK. 1:20:23.747 --> 1:20:26.347 Zb coming up five to. Two we're, celebrating of, course 1:20:26.387 --> 1:20:28.787 one hundred years of Z b AS zib went to 1:20:28.827 --> 1:20:31.547 wear for the first time on this, Day august the, 1:20:31.627 --> 1:20:34.307 ninth nineteen twenty. Six there have been so many great 1:20:34.387 --> 1:20:37.947 moments down the. Years Michael campbell won THE Us Golf 1:20:38.027 --> 1:20:41.187 open in two thousand and. Five the morning after the 1:20:41.347 --> 1:20:44.947 late Great Paul holmes spoke to him ON Zb. 1:20:45.107 --> 1:20:48.907 Breakfast, Michael, Michael. 1:20:50.827 --> 1:20:53.347 I'll tell you what shower this morning as A Us open. 1:20:53.427 --> 1:20:58.347 Champion that's, RIGHT i bet it. Was Congratulations michael. 1:20:59.107 --> 1:21:04.747 Thanks it's been the incredible last what folve hours or 1:21:04.787 --> 1:21:07.587 so or seventeen hours haven't been crowned as THE Us open. 1:21:07.707 --> 1:21:09.867 Champion it's been, unbelievable. 1:21:10.507 --> 1:21:11.667 UNBELIEVABLE i know that the. 1:21:11.667 --> 1:21:14.947 Response back home has been it's been really huge as, 1:21:14.987 --> 1:21:17.067 well And i'm looking forward to coming home and ensuring 1:21:17.187 --> 1:21:19.987 my success was bought the people back over there so. 1:21:20.507 --> 1:21:22.827 Well response back, here response back here has just. BEEN i, 1:21:22.867 --> 1:21:24.027 mean the country's gone. Bamie. 1:21:24.147 --> 1:21:28.267 MICHAEL i, know and we all watched, it and you, 1:21:28.307 --> 1:21:29.747 know the word went round, gosh you were having that 1:21:29.787 --> 1:21:31.587 wonderful final. Round we all got up early and we 1:21:31.707 --> 1:21:34.347 and we watched it and we felt for. You it 1:21:34.467 --> 1:21:37.627 was just the most marvelous thing to. See the debating Here, 1:21:37.707 --> 1:21:40.147 michael whether it's the greatest sporting achievement ever By New. 1:21:40.187 --> 1:21:42.587 Zealand, Michael, oh it's. 1:21:42.627 --> 1:21:45.427 Hard hard to. Say, really it's not my thing to 1:21:45.507 --> 1:21:51.667 say with my judgment probably, biased but maybe fining highlights of. Gentlemen, 1:21:51.947 --> 1:21:55.467 yeah that's probably probably on power To Bob charles went 1:21:55.587 --> 1:21:56.147 back in fifty. 1:21:56.187 --> 1:21:57.227 THREE i believe. 1:22:00.267 --> 1:22:02.867 Was wont to make a championship two two years, ago 1:22:02.947 --> 1:22:05.947 but to be part of history of, country little sporting 1:22:06.027 --> 1:22:07.387 history is a wonderful honor for. 1:22:07.507 --> 1:22:10.507 Me That's Michael campbell speaking with the late Great Paul, 1:22:10.547 --> 1:22:14.067 holmes the late Great Sir Paul, holmes the morning after 1:22:14.147 --> 1:22:16.307 his triumph in two thousand and. Five of, course last 1:22:16.347 --> 1:22:19.707 month we Had Ryan fox emulate him and he had 1:22:19.747 --> 1:22:22.667 a chat To Mike hoskin the morning. After we're celebrating 1:22:22.707 --> 1:22:25.787 one hundred years of Z b and we'll do it 1:22:26.107 --> 1:22:31.067 in depth after two with A, Dame Dame Lisa carrington 1:22:31.187 --> 1:22:34.667 going to join us after two. O'clock and Then, deeks the, 1:22:34.787 --> 1:22:40.227 one the, Only Murray. Deeker one hundred years of bringing 1:22:40.267 --> 1:22:41.907 you the big, weds. 1:22:46.067 --> 1:22:47.507 The big heartache. 1:22:51.587 --> 1:22:52.147 And the big. 1:22:52.227 --> 1:22:53.547 Issues i'll tell you. 1:22:53.667 --> 1:22:54.547 Here he is the sign of. 1:22:54.627 --> 1:22:57.987 Police batty's running Down charls and crash on us the. 1:22:58.067 --> 1:23:05.427 Protesters Weekends forward With Jesson dames and the seven dynamic 1:23:05.547 --> 1:23:09.307 black runout edition from. One News talk. 1:23:09.387 --> 1:23:29.027 Said oh then. 1:23:29.067 --> 1:23:35.347 Then newsic, man it takes your, bag doesn't. It News 1:23:35.427 --> 1:23:37.667 talks ED b two o. Seven I'm Jason pine With danda. 1:23:37.747 --> 1:23:42.547 McDonald this Is Weekend sport as we Celebrate News TALKS 1:23:42.667 --> 1:23:49.347 eDV turning one Hundred august, nine nineteen twenty. Six the 1:23:49.427 --> 1:23:53.147 station was heard for the first. Time i'm going to 1:23:53.187 --> 1:23:56.227 talk To Murray deeker this hour appointment listening as he 1:23:56.547 --> 1:24:00.507 was so often across as nearly three decades in this very, 1:24:00.627 --> 1:24:04.787 chair behind this very. Mic but As News TALKS dB 1:24:04.947 --> 1:24:07.147 celebrates one hundred years on the, year we thought it 1:24:07.267 --> 1:24:09.787 only fitting we spend some time with one of the 1:24:09.947 --> 1:24:13.267 Greatest New zealanders ever to wear the fern and to 1:24:13.427 --> 1:24:15.067 represent us on the world. 1:24:15.147 --> 1:24:17.867 Stage, oh it's gonna be a fight to the finish 1:24:18.187 --> 1:24:21.107 Between New zealand And. Hungary the rest have been left. 1:24:21.187 --> 1:24:26.027 Behind Can Lisa carrington make it eight gold? Medals she's 1:24:26.107 --> 1:24:30.627 got the race face on the Red Sonnies carrington coming 1:24:30.747 --> 1:24:34.667 down to the. Line it is gonna be gold For 1:24:34.907 --> 1:24:39.147 New Zealand's Lisa. Carrington it Is paris perfection. 1:24:39.467 --> 1:24:43.147 Here Dame Lisa carrington hasn't just rewritten the record, books 1:24:43.307 --> 1:24:46.027 she has torn them. Up From olympic gold In london 1:24:46.187 --> 1:24:50.147 and twenty twelve to an extraordinary haul of Eight Olympic 1:24:50.267 --> 1:24:54.267 golds and Nine olympic medals overall across her four games 1:24:54.347 --> 1:24:58.027 since she is our most Successful olympian of all. Time 1:24:58.107 --> 1:25:00.987 but those medals only tell part of the story behind 1:25:01.027 --> 1:25:05.827 the dominance has been years of relentless, discipline, sacrifice and 1:25:06.067 --> 1:25:10.547 an wavering pursuit of. Excellence now she and Husband michael 1:25:10.627 --> 1:25:13.987 are preparing for an exciting new. Chapter Dame lisa will 1:25:14.027 --> 1:25:17.707 soon become a, mum while still harboring deep ambitions to 1:25:17.867 --> 1:25:21.587 add another chapter to her incredible sporting. Legacy at The 1:25:21.667 --> 1:25:25.587 Los Angeles olympics in twenty twenty, Eight Dame Lisa carrington 1:25:25.787 --> 1:25:28.027 joins us to look back on the moments that shaped, 1:25:28.067 --> 1:25:31.947 her the memories she'll treasure, forever and what is coming. 1:25:32.067 --> 1:25:34.987 Next Dame, lisa thanks for joining us to help celebrate 1:25:35.107 --> 1:25:39.267 zb's one Hundredth when you hear the Words New zealand's Greatest, 1:25:39.427 --> 1:25:41.547 olympian what goes through your? 1:25:41.587 --> 1:25:47.787 Mind, yeah IT'S i, mean it was quite interesting hearing 1:25:47.867 --> 1:25:52.427 you have that little intro just. Then, no it, is it's. 1:25:52.587 --> 1:25:57.067 Unusual it's not SOMETHING i ever THOUGHT i could, do 1:25:57.587 --> 1:26:02.347 and it's. Not, YES i don't wake up every day 1:26:02.427 --> 1:26:03.067 thinking that for. 1:26:03.187 --> 1:26:07.347 Sure if from someone had told the teen Age Lisa 1:26:07.427 --> 1:26:10.627 carrington FROM hpi that she had become an eight Time olympic, 1:26:10.747 --> 1:26:12.987 champion what do you? Reckon she would have thought of. 1:26:13.147 --> 1:26:18.627 THAT i think she would have laughed and thought how 1:26:19.107 --> 1:26:22.867 and just maybe wouldn't even have started because that's quite, 1:26:22.867 --> 1:26:27.107 OVERWHELMING i think for a teenager who. 1:26:27.067 --> 1:26:29.907 First introduced you to kayaking and what was it that 1:26:30.027 --> 1:26:30.427 hooked you? 1:26:30.547 --> 1:26:36.747 In so kayaking really became a part of my life 1:26:36.827 --> 1:26:40.627 through surf life, Saving so starting in the surf ski 1:26:40.867 --> 1:26:44.187 at my local surf club at Fuk Taney Surf club. 1:26:44.027 --> 1:26:44.387 And then. 1:26:45.947 --> 1:26:49.507 Developing my dad's or developing. There my dad took me 1:26:49.547 --> 1:26:52.387 along to An ian ferguson kayak camp who was throwing 1:26:52.467 --> 1:26:58.227 At Lake, latouiti which was not very far From, Fulksani 1:26:58.347 --> 1:27:02.107 so we came along And, YEAH i guess that's kind 1:27:02.147 --> 1:27:05.147 of how it. Started AND i think from THERE i 1:27:05.267 --> 1:27:08.427 just picked up a Real. Isaac kayaking is you, know 1:27:08.587 --> 1:27:10.627 can take me a little bit further than surf life 1:27:10.667 --> 1:27:13.547 Saving AND i GUESS i just traveled on that, trajectory 1:27:13.627 --> 1:27:17.787 on that, path you, know Making New zealand teams and 1:27:18.747 --> 1:27:20.747 that type of, thing and when you start to be 1:27:20.787 --> 1:27:24.907 good at something to be, RECOGNIZED i just kind of carried. 1:27:24.987 --> 1:27:29.067 On, yeah were there moments early on when you realized 1:27:29.107 --> 1:27:33.587 that you were capable of taking the sport quite? Far for? 1:27:33.747 --> 1:27:33.787 You? 1:27:35.627 --> 1:27:36.267 Ah FOR. 1:27:37.867 --> 1:27:40.867 I think it's hard to. KNOW i think it's so 1:27:41.027 --> 1:27:45.387 gradual AND i think it was just small steps at a, 1:27:45.467 --> 1:27:51.467 time from you, know the fust ambition was just turning 1:27:51.547 --> 1:27:54.507 up and racing at a national, competition to then being 1:27:54.627 --> 1:27:58.387 picked for A New zealand, team a junior, team and 1:27:58.467 --> 1:28:01.187 then from there becoming one of the best peddlers In New. 1:28:01.267 --> 1:28:06.707 Zealand so it's really hard to know IF i WHEN 1:28:06.747 --> 1:28:09.187 I i, guess the thing THAT i find stranger IS 1:28:09.227 --> 1:28:11.147 i KNEW i could be good the moment THAT i 1:28:11.787 --> 1:28:16.547 started winning international, races which was and even then The 1:28:16.627 --> 1:28:21.907 olympics was still my goal and it sometimes you, KNOW 1:28:21.987 --> 1:28:26.267 i think maybe it's kiwik culture or how HOW i, 1:28:26.387 --> 1:28:30.107 am but it's really scary to dream really, big to, 1:28:30.267 --> 1:28:32.707 think you, Know i'm going to one day one gold 1:28:32.747 --> 1:28:34.347 medal when you don't know how you're going to do. 1:28:34.427 --> 1:28:38.427 It SO i think it was just a gradual thing 1:28:38.507 --> 1:28:41.787 of general just wanting to be better at, something RECOGNIZING 1:28:41.827 --> 1:28:44.827 i was good and, thinking, okay this pass is this 1:28:44.987 --> 1:28:45.507 is the ONE. 1:28:45.387 --> 1:28:45.827 I want to go. 1:28:45.907 --> 1:28:48.307 On, well it's been a wonderful path with more to. 1:28:48.387 --> 1:28:51.507 Come the eleventh Of august twenty, twelve just a few 1:28:51.587 --> 1:28:54.587 days short of fourteen years, Ago Dame, lisa what do 1:28:54.667 --> 1:28:56.707 you remember most vividly about the day you won your 1:28:56.787 --> 1:28:58.067 First olympic gold? Medal? 1:28:59.507 --> 1:29:05.227 Oh that, DAY i, think you, KNOW i remember waking 1:29:05.347 --> 1:29:09.587 up probably around four am and just trying to distract 1:29:09.667 --> 1:29:14.507 myself by, watching you, know some SOME tv, shows you, know, 1:29:14.627 --> 1:29:16.387 like you, KNOW i was only twenty, three SO i 1:29:16.427 --> 1:29:19.147 start pretty you, KNOW i was very, young well now 1:29:19.267 --> 1:29:23.027 compared to. Now AND i just remember kind of getting 1:29:23.067 --> 1:29:28.507 out there on the race course and hearing this heartbeat 1:29:28.827 --> 1:29:31.867 that the loudspeaker was playing as we were kind of 1:29:32.027 --> 1:29:35.587 rolling into our start, gates And i'm just, thinking why 1:29:35.627 --> 1:29:38.627 would they play? There it's like it's literally going faster 1:29:38.787 --> 1:29:41.547 and faster like that Is oh my, gosh that's that's quite. 1:29:41.627 --> 1:29:46.867 Scary, Yeah AND i guess at that, point you, know there. 1:29:46.867 --> 1:29:49.547 Was REAL i, mean there's not a lot of, expectation 1:29:50.107 --> 1:29:55.227 and so my biggest thing there WAS I i'd BEEN 1:29:55.387 --> 1:29:57.067 i was, LIKE i want to, win BUT i don't have, 1:29:57.227 --> 1:29:59.707 to you, Know SO i was kind of racing with 1:29:59.747 --> 1:30:03.947 a lot of, freedom AND i as we went down the, 1:30:04.027 --> 1:30:07.067 COURSE i remember having that last fift meters AND i 1:30:07.107 --> 1:30:12.147 DON'T i wasn't winning at that, point and just THINKING 1:30:13.347 --> 1:30:16.867 i want this and kind of recognizing then it's, like, wow, 1:30:16.867 --> 1:30:18.787 Okay i'm pretty. Competitive i'm in the. 1:30:18.907 --> 1:30:19.507 Race let's. 1:30:19.547 --> 1:30:24.867 Go so, yeah, unreal unreal. Stuff so gold In, london 1:30:25.107 --> 1:30:28.467 golden bronze And, rio three more golds In, tokyo three 1:30:28.507 --> 1:30:33.027 more golds In. Paris how different have each of Your 1:30:33.067 --> 1:30:36.507 Olympic games experiences been from one? 1:30:36.547 --> 1:30:36.867 Another? 1:30:38.307 --> 1:30:42.627 Yeah if they have been REALLY i guess quite, different 1:30:42.787 --> 1:30:46.667 particularly as you get, older you, know four years later 1:30:46.987 --> 1:30:50.587 or you, know if we're talking About tokyo And, paris 1:30:50.667 --> 1:30:54.227 those ones were five you, Know tokyo was five years 1:30:54.307 --> 1:30:58.467 posts twenty, sixteen and Then paris is only three years 1:30:58.507 --> 1:31:02.827 later From. Tokyo so each one has been really, different 1:31:04.387 --> 1:31:07.147 AND i, think really it's a trajectory of trying to 1:31:07.547 --> 1:31:09.307 constantly grow and be, better. 1:31:10.747 --> 1:31:10.787 You. 1:31:10.867 --> 1:31:15.107 Know adding in twenty, SIXTEEN i edited racing THE k 1:31:15.347 --> 1:31:21.227 one five, hundred WHICH i got, bronzen and then from there, realizing, 1:31:21.347 --> 1:31:22.907 OKAY i really want to do a bit of, there 1:31:22.907 --> 1:31:24.867 But i've got to find out figure out how to 1:31:25.147 --> 1:31:28.867 kind of push myself and challenge myself to get. Better 1:31:28.987 --> 1:31:34.147 and that's when WE i started racing team boats and 1:31:34.587 --> 1:31:40.107 after that to go Into Tokyo, olympics and so everyone's 1:31:40.227 --> 1:31:44.187 kind of an evolution to constantly try to find more 1:31:44.227 --> 1:31:50.507 and more capability and kind of reached the biff THAT i. 1:31:50.587 --> 1:31:54.187 Could do as an athlete and as a you, know 1:31:54.227 --> 1:31:54.427 as a. 1:31:54.507 --> 1:31:58.747 Person so every Every olympics tells a different, story but 1:31:58.827 --> 1:32:01.827 it is just like a as constantly a livel up 1:32:01.867 --> 1:32:04.307 on the next one or you, KNOW i couldn't have 1:32:05.227 --> 1:32:08.907 couldn't have done any of those medals In paris Or 1:32:09.307 --> 1:32:13.827 tokyo without the Previous olympics. Before so for constant, Growth, really. 1:32:14.187 --> 1:32:17.067 How much has the way you feel on An olympic 1:32:17.187 --> 1:32:19.907 start line? CHANGED i mean you talked about the heartbeat 1:32:19.947 --> 1:32:21.827 going through the speakers in twenty, twelve WOULD i think 1:32:21.867 --> 1:32:24.107 would have would have given any of us THE hebgb? 1:32:24.187 --> 1:32:26.827 Spot do you still do you still get nervous on 1:32:26.947 --> 1:32:27.747 An olympic start? 1:32:27.827 --> 1:32:28.067 Line? 1:32:28.787 --> 1:32:29.427 Oh, yeah. 1:32:29.627 --> 1:32:34.307 ABSOLUTELY i mean the CLOSER i got to you, know In, 1:32:34.467 --> 1:32:38.027 paris it WAS i think that was probably the Most 1:32:39.347 --> 1:32:41.827 that's the most physically. 1:32:41.667 --> 1:32:47.267 Best and mentally Best i've ever. Been and so still 1:32:47.307 --> 1:32:49.387 on that start line it just means a lot. 1:32:49.507 --> 1:32:55.507 MORE i think AS i have evolved through my athletic, 1:32:55.627 --> 1:32:59.467 career it Just i've kind of learned how to dig 1:32:59.547 --> 1:33:02.987 deeper and deeper and kind of put myself out there 1:33:03.027 --> 1:33:06.627 more and. More and so whilst you, know winning in twenty, 1:33:06.707 --> 1:33:09.707 TWELVE i just remember, thinking this is only scratching the. 1:33:09.827 --> 1:33:13.307 Surface SO i think there's no way That i've not 1:33:13.467 --> 1:33:16.747 lined up and had a great performance without being. NERVOUS 1:33:16.907 --> 1:33:20.347 i think. Nerves If i'm not, nervous there is something. 1:33:20.507 --> 1:33:24.147 Wrong but to, me it's like it. 1:33:24.267 --> 1:33:26.707 Helps me the best fun of myself because in that, 1:33:26.827 --> 1:33:29.667 MOMENT i, WANT i wanted. It i'm a little bit 1:33:29.707 --> 1:33:33.107 scared of not doing What i'm capable, of But i'm 1:33:33.147 --> 1:33:35.387 prepared to go and race the HARDEST i. Can so 1:33:35.467 --> 1:33:36.787 there's a real nice mass of. 1:33:36.867 --> 1:33:39.467 Confidence and, well don't stuff it. 1:33:39.587 --> 1:33:45.547 Up we see the metals and the metal, races but 1:33:45.707 --> 1:33:47.867 what is it that we don't see what have been 1:33:47.947 --> 1:33:53.187 the keys to your sustained? Excellence, YEAH i think while. 1:33:53.027 --> 1:33:56.187 It's it is just every day trying to be a 1:33:56.227 --> 1:33:56.587 little bit. 1:33:56.627 --> 1:33:57.067 Better and. 1:33:58.907 --> 1:34:01.067 You, know it isn't LIKE i, said that's an. Evolution 1:34:01.427 --> 1:34:04.307 so WHERE i got to and WHERE i am today 1:34:04.427 --> 1:34:07.627 is not the same athlete WHEN i. Started SO i 1:34:07.747 --> 1:34:14.027 think it's just been constantly learning how to tune your, 1:34:14.107 --> 1:34:18.827 training learning more turning, up showing up every day executing 1:34:20.787 --> 1:34:26.307 because by the end leading Into paris and really like 1:34:26.387 --> 1:34:29.947 there was no fault in my. Training so but that 1:34:30.067 --> 1:34:32.187 took a lot of, time and you, know. 1:34:32.227 --> 1:34:32.827 There's a lot of. 1:34:34.307 --> 1:34:37.307 You, know hard moments and it does become number one 1:34:38.747 --> 1:34:41.747 and things fall to the, side like you don't get 1:34:41.747 --> 1:34:44.347 as much time with your, family or you're constantly, tired 1:34:44.467 --> 1:34:46.587 or At christmas you've got to go training Or New. 1:34:46.667 --> 1:34:50.947 Year so there's those moments where there's it's there's a 1:34:51.427 --> 1:34:56.667 twenty four seven and but you, know like it you 1:34:56.747 --> 1:34:59.587 don't get to those to that place without giving it. 1:34:59.667 --> 1:35:02.947 All but it's amazing when you, know we get to do, 1:35:03.107 --> 1:35:05.547 it and you don't forget when you're on that podium 1:35:06.467 --> 1:35:07.827 and you cross the line and you're, like, oh you, 1:35:07.867 --> 1:35:10.267 know it worked really. Hard but you kind of when 1:35:10.307 --> 1:35:12.987 you are in the, trenches you kind of forget those 1:35:12.987 --> 1:35:16.267 hard moments too because it is. Tricky it is you, 1:35:16.347 --> 1:35:18.267 know when it all works, out it's all. Fine but, 1:35:19.867 --> 1:35:22.387 yeah so, there's, yeah there's a lot that goes into, 1:35:22.467 --> 1:35:26.427 it but, yeah absolutely wouldn't change it for the. 1:35:26.467 --> 1:35:29.907 World this year has brought very exciting personal news with 1:35:30.067 --> 1:35:34.067 your pregnancy and impending parenthood for you And, michael how 1:35:34.147 --> 1:35:37.707 much has that shifted your your perspective on life and on. Sport, 1:35:39.067 --> 1:35:40.187 YEAH i think. 1:35:40.067 --> 1:35:45.227 You, Well i'm you, know fundamentally the, same BUT i, 1:35:45.427 --> 1:35:49.867 think you, know it's really taught me to slow down 1:35:49.907 --> 1:35:54.747 a little. Bit AND i, think you, know there's LIKE i, 1:35:54.827 --> 1:36:00.507 see there's such an evolution to to my athletic career 1:36:01.467 --> 1:36:05.227 and to WHO i. Am SO i, think you, know 1:36:05.467 --> 1:36:09.187 this is really special for, us and it's so awesome 1:36:09.427 --> 1:36:13.587 for me to be on this journey was bucky BECAUSE 1:36:14.547 --> 1:36:17.307 i think you realize that whilst you know the middles 1:36:17.507 --> 1:36:21.667 or the successes are, incredible you can't you, know you 1:36:21.787 --> 1:36:25.267 work so hard for, it but ultimately there are bigger. 1:36:25.347 --> 1:36:27.347 Things so it's really. 1:36:27.387 --> 1:36:28.747 Special to me to kind of. 1:36:30.467 --> 1:36:33.907 Feel there and then look at sport in another, way. 1:36:33.907 --> 1:36:37.027 Which is it's not the bill with, indoor which it 1:36:37.147 --> 1:36:40.507 really does feel like when you're in it twenty four to. 1:36:40.547 --> 1:36:43.587 Seven SO i think it's a really nice way to just. 1:36:43.667 --> 1:36:45.027 Go you know, what at the end of the, day 1:36:45.347 --> 1:36:47.827 you walk, home you walk in the door at, home 1:36:48.747 --> 1:36:52.147 and you know your special people are. There SO i, 1:36:52.307 --> 1:36:54.547 think you, know where as sport is or. Not and you, 1:36:54.627 --> 1:36:57.787 know but for, sport for, athletes it stops at some 1:36:57.907 --> 1:37:00.267 point we either stop getting good, enough we get. Injured 1:37:01.427 --> 1:37:02.027 we're a year a bit. 1:37:02.067 --> 1:37:05.867 Old so you, know LIKE i, THINK i just really aware. 1:37:05.947 --> 1:37:10.907 There i'm so privileged to be doing sport and attempting 1:37:10.987 --> 1:37:17.107 it while doing this other crazy, thing which is incredibly. 1:37:17.227 --> 1:37:20.827 LATE i, mean every woman out there will will have 1:37:20.987 --> 1:37:24.267 their own, story but it's it's a really special thing 1:37:25.307 --> 1:37:26.627 and we're both really excited for. 1:37:26.707 --> 1:37:29.867 It And Los angeles twenty twenty eight remains a. Goal 1:37:30.547 --> 1:37:32.627 was it always your, Mindset Dame, lisa that you would 1:37:32.627 --> 1:37:34.867 be both a mum and continue to be an elite. 1:37:34.907 --> 1:37:38.027 Athlete, No LIKE i. 1:37:38.067 --> 1:37:42.267 Think initially or a few years, AGO i thought it wasn't, 1:37:42.347 --> 1:37:46.307 possible and then just because of you, know their commitment 1:37:46.387 --> 1:37:50.467 it takes to do, SPORT i didn't think it Was 1:37:50.707 --> 1:37:55.867 and then now we get to see these amazing. Families you, 1:37:55.947 --> 1:37:58.827 KNOW i say families because it's you, know there's there's this, 1:37:59.067 --> 1:38:04.027 female the female that has to compete and have the, 1:38:04.227 --> 1:38:07.387 child but it's also the support and you, know the 1:38:07.467 --> 1:38:09.867 team around the athlete that really make it. 1:38:09.987 --> 1:38:10.547 Happen So. 1:38:12.547 --> 1:38:16.027 I've seen a number of scenarios where it's been, possible 1:38:16.107 --> 1:38:20.307 AND i think it's initially like, yeah like naively two 1:38:20.387 --> 1:38:22.627 years ago was like it's not, POSSIBLE i can't do. 1:38:22.707 --> 1:38:24.987 It so then, go, WELL i actually still want to do. 1:38:25.107 --> 1:38:30.387 Sport it's it's an amazing career AND i want to 1:38:30.387 --> 1:38:32.587 be a mum and so, LIKE i know that there's 1:38:32.627 --> 1:38:35.467 so much undercertainty in this, space BUT i would love 1:38:35.547 --> 1:38:38.627 to just continue and come back and do, it you, 1:38:38.707 --> 1:38:40.307 know do both the BEST i. 1:38:40.427 --> 1:38:42.667 Can so, YEAH i think that's. 1:38:42.667 --> 1:38:46.547 AMAZING i think that's. Amazing we're celebrating one hundred years 1:38:46.587 --> 1:38:48.707 of course here AT zb and sport has produced so 1:38:48.827 --> 1:38:52.147 many unforgettable moments over over those. Decades do you have 1:38:52.227 --> 1:38:54.387 a favorite sporting moment that doesn't involve. 1:38:54.467 --> 1:38:57.267 You, yeah it's. 1:38:57.347 --> 1:39:00.787 Interesting you, Know i've, been you, know with watching The 1:39:00.867 --> 1:39:05.307 Calm games, Recently i've been thinking about the great moments 1:39:05.347 --> 1:39:07.027 That i've been able to witness and be there in, 1:39:07.267 --> 1:39:12.467 person and you, know like there are. MOMENTS i think 1:39:12.507 --> 1:39:17.067 it was in twenty sixteen WHEN I i was racing 1:39:19.507 --> 1:39:24.467 there we got to watch May drysale race His olympic 1:39:24.627 --> 1:39:27.667 final and just being on that finish line and watching 1:39:27.867 --> 1:39:33.547 him win that race by a whisker was, incredible you, 1:39:33.627 --> 1:39:37.627 know back to back From. London him winning was quite 1:39:37.867 --> 1:39:40.347 especially WHEN i think there's something amazing when you are 1:39:40.467 --> 1:39:45.987 able to be there and witness. It but also a 1:39:46.027 --> 1:39:48.347 little bit more recently was the women's Rugby Wild cup 1:39:48.387 --> 1:39:52.107 here In auckland a few years. Ago just the it 1:39:52.227 --> 1:39:55.067 could feel the energy and the crowd and the willingness 1:39:55.147 --> 1:39:58.747 for our black friends to win The World cup was 1:39:58.987 --> 1:40:01.347 that was the epic as. Well AND i mean that 1:40:01.587 --> 1:40:07.067 really thrust a lot of those you, know those players 1:40:07.187 --> 1:40:11.187 into the spotlight and really highlighted professional. Sports so, yeah 1:40:11.347 --> 1:40:11.667 there's some. 1:40:13.227 --> 1:40:16.707 Where such a Cool we've had so many amazing. 1:40:17.747 --> 1:40:20.307 You know successes over the over the years and such 1:40:20.347 --> 1:40:23.307 a little. Country so, yeah there's probably a two sex 1:40:23.347 --> 1:40:23.787 spring to. 1:40:23.827 --> 1:40:27.707 Mind outstanding just to finish when we celebrate our two 1:40:27.827 --> 1:40:30.547 hundred years so one hundred years from, now when people 1:40:30.547 --> 1:40:33.227 are looking back and we're well, gone what do you 1:40:33.427 --> 1:40:35.907 what do you kind of hope people will will think 1:40:35.987 --> 1:40:38.587 and say when they when they Remember Dame Lisa. 1:40:38.667 --> 1:40:42.907 Carrington, YEAH i don't really. 1:40:42.987 --> 1:40:48.387 KNOW i THINK i, guess you, know we don't know 1:40:48.507 --> 1:40:50.467 If olympics is going to be the way we know 1:40:50.667 --> 1:40:53.827 today right like it's potentially the way the world's, going 1:40:53.907 --> 1:40:57.107 it's going to. Change SO i think just looking back and, 1:40:57.987 --> 1:41:00.427 thinking you, know the little you, know Little New zealand 1:41:00.467 --> 1:41:04.267 being able to produce excellence on the world stage and 1:41:04.347 --> 1:41:08.627 being really proud of, THAT i, think and believing that you, 1:41:08.667 --> 1:41:14.147 know anybody can kind of, work work hard and do amazing. 1:41:14.227 --> 1:41:16.147 Things SO i hope that just draws a bit of 1:41:16.227 --> 1:41:21.227 inspiration for people and a one hundred years, Time i'm 1:41:21.307 --> 1:41:23.747 sure you're far off. 1:41:24.827 --> 1:41:30.027 Memory i'm sure it'll. Be it'll be forever enshrined in 1:41:30.427 --> 1:41:32.827 our sporting. History Dame, lisa it's been great to chat to. 1:41:32.867 --> 1:41:35.827 You all the very best for a tremendously exciting time. 1:41:35.867 --> 1:41:39.267 AHEAD i can highly recommend. Parenthood i'm sure you're going 1:41:39.347 --> 1:41:40.907 to be great at it and we look forward to 1:41:40.947 --> 1:41:44.307 seeing seeing you then back on the water and charging 1:41:44.387 --> 1:41:46.867 TOWARDS la twenty twenty. Eight it's been a great pleasure to. 1:41:46.947 --> 1:41:47.747 Chat thanks for taking the. 1:41:47.787 --> 1:41:49.907 Call, oh thank you so, Much. 1:41:50.067 --> 1:41:53.307 No thank, You Dame. Lisa Dame Lisa carrington our Greatest, 1:41:53.507 --> 1:41:57.667 olympian eight gold, medals nine all up and an absolute 1:41:57.747 --> 1:42:00.747 delight exciting time for her about to become a mum 1:42:00.827 --> 1:42:04.107 and then back on the water and charging Towards la 1:42:04.507 --> 1:42:10.387 twenty twenty eight Six Murray deeker before. Three your favorite 1:42:10.427 --> 1:42:14.387 sporting memories from the last one hundred, years available to 1:42:14.467 --> 1:42:16.467 text them through or on the. Phone oh eight hundred 1:42:16.507 --> 1:42:18.987 eighty ten. Eighty this Is Weekend sport back in the month. 1:42:20.507 --> 1:42:23.267 One hundred years of bringing you the Big wins. 1:42:24.667 --> 1:42:27.827 Cup you see it's cut. 1:42:27.907 --> 1:42:29.267 The big, heartache. 1:42:30.987 --> 1:42:33.947 News and the big. 1:42:34.067 --> 1:42:37.587 Issues Hellier harry is the sound Of, Ice bobby's, Raining 1:42:37.707 --> 1:42:39.467 Joe shields and crash on. 1:42:39.627 --> 1:42:44.147 Us The Protests Weekends board With Jason tyne the right. 1:42:45.667 --> 1:42:48.827 And The audi two seven dynamic Black runout edition from 1:42:48.867 --> 1:42:51.667 one thirty nine nine Ninety News Talks it'd. 1:42:51.507 --> 1:42:54.627 Be two twenty, Nine bread, says While lisa is, Amazing 1:42:54.667 --> 1:42:56.587 punuck guilf For New Zealand you'll always be the. Best 1:42:56.627 --> 1:43:00.547 couldn't agree More, bread could not agree More High, Chris, Hi. 1:43:00.867 --> 1:43:04.267 Hi, jason great. Show look just my first memory of 1:43:04.267 --> 1:43:08.107 the Spring box At Lencaster park ninety six. FIVE i 1:43:08.227 --> 1:43:12.867 thought we had huge, forward then there's ran out And Alice, 1:43:12.907 --> 1:43:16.867 Stricter prix. Etcetera tiny. UDEA i don't know over fifty 1:43:16.907 --> 1:43:20.667 thousand there and you know sixteen all and udeas me 1:43:20.747 --> 1:43:21.507 getting done over in. 1:43:21.547 --> 1:43:22.467 The ruts by the All Black. 1:43:22.507 --> 1:43:24.627 Fords all day is a lock and with a wet 1:43:24.747 --> 1:43:27.427 laced up ball from in front in front of the, 1:43:27.467 --> 1:43:28.347 bank he kicks the winning. 1:43:28.427 --> 1:43:32.627 Goal. Yeah, man, Man it's amazing what you, remember isn't. 1:43:32.627 --> 1:43:32.667 It. 1:43:32.707 --> 1:43:34.707 Chris i've often SAID i don't know which day the 1:43:34.747 --> 1:43:37.227 bins go, out BUT i can remember stuff from forty 1:43:37.227 --> 1:43:39.587 to fifty years ago THAT i witnessed as a as 1:43:39.627 --> 1:43:42.667 a young, boy as obviously you can. Too, yes and 1:43:43.147 --> 1:43:43.547 and my. 1:43:43.987 --> 1:43:47.467 Fourth Warning, Memories well that was, one but also that 1:43:47.707 --> 1:43:50.867 series listening to it By John houston during the. 1:43:50.947 --> 1:43:54.507 Court, Yes John, Howson, yes So. 1:43:54.627 --> 1:43:56.347 John houston does the coll and you KNOW i need 1:43:56.827 --> 1:43:59.507 HEARD i Heard John howson a lot of. Times the 1:43:59.627 --> 1:44:01.867 other one was seventy six In montreal when we won 1:44:01.907 --> 1:44:04.507 the gold medal in the hockey AND i think it 1:44:04.587 --> 1:44:07.147 was All In. RICHARDS i don't think My john macbeest 1:44:07.307 --> 1:44:10.747 did it because he's From timur and So i'm pretty 1:44:10.747 --> 1:44:11.867 sure it Was Alan richards did the. 1:44:11.907 --> 1:44:13.867 Call there a. 1:44:15.867 --> 1:44:18.947 A he won At, headingley first Ever test win In. 1:44:19.027 --> 1:44:24.307 England Brian waddell eighty five and Pers Brian Waddle series 1:44:24.347 --> 1:44:30.027 win Against australia seventy four At Lancaster, park First test 1:44:30.107 --> 1:44:35.547 win ever Against, Australia Alan richards and then finishing up 1:44:35.667 --> 1:44:39.027 With Brian allen With brandon three hundred. 1:44:40.627 --> 1:44:40.827 To the. 1:44:40.867 --> 1:44:42.787 Base AND i was there as well and listening on 1:44:42.867 --> 1:44:45.467 the radio to what's, Again, yeah. 1:44:45.667 --> 1:44:49.427 Some great voices bringing us amazing. Moments, chris thanks for calling, through. Mate, 1:44:49.787 --> 1:44:51.947 yeah That's that's Something i've been thinking a lot about 1:44:52.027 --> 1:44:54.067 in the in the last few. Days is the is 1:44:54.147 --> 1:44:57.707 the voices that that have brought us these, Moments And 1:44:58.107 --> 1:45:01.747 chris mentioned a few. There one of the biggest influencers 1:45:01.787 --> 1:45:08.107 on me has Been Graham, moody the, late extremely Great Graham, Moody, 1:45:08.187 --> 1:45:13.667 moods his voice bringing us so many memorable. Moments the 1:45:13.787 --> 1:45:16.627 nineteen ninety Five Rugby World Cup final Of Alice. PARK 1:45:16.867 --> 1:45:19.147 i Think Murray deaker might have been alongside him that 1:45:19.307 --> 1:45:22.907 day in the expert comments, seat you, Know moods calling 1:45:23.027 --> 1:45:26.947 that in the ninety six tour and so many other iconic, 1:45:27.027 --> 1:45:30.267 moments so many iconic. Voices thanks for all your texts 1:45:30.347 --> 1:45:33.907 and feedback as. Well twenty Eight away from three speaking 1:45:33.947 --> 1:45:39.667 Of Murray, deeker a trailblazer in radio sports. Broadcasting he 1:45:39.827 --> 1:45:42.147 is with us right after this On Weekend. Sport the 1:45:42.307 --> 1:45:45.707 big names in sport have talked to us for one hundred. 1:45:45.827 --> 1:45:48.027 Years Good, Morning Everybody well on the. 1:45:48.107 --> 1:45:51.867 Air Weekend sport With Jason pain and THE udq Seven 1:45:51.987 --> 1:45:55.907 Dynamic Black Runout edition includes thirty thousand dollars of premium. 1:45:55.987 --> 1:45:59.187 Upgrades call oh eight hundred eighty ten Eighty News talk 1:45:59.547 --> 1:45:59.907 Z b. 1:46:00.627 --> 1:46:03.827 Two thirty five As News TALK sedb celebrates one hundred 1:46:03.907 --> 1:46:07.387 years of. Broadcasting there are certain voices that have become 1:46:07.547 --> 1:46:11.587 part Of New zealand's sporting, soundtrack and few are more 1:46:11.667 --> 1:46:16.587 recognizable Than Murray. Deecer's for more than thirty, Years murray 1:46:16.707 --> 1:46:21.107 was one of the country's most influential and uncompromising sports. 1:46:21.147 --> 1:46:25.827 Broadcasters his Programs Spark, Debate Broke, stories challenged the biggest 1:46:25.947 --> 1:46:29.027 names in sport and gave listeners a platform to have their. 1:46:29.107 --> 1:46:32.867 Say whether you agreed with him or, not you always 1:46:33.227 --> 1:46:35.907 listened along the. Way he won the award For Best 1:46:35.907 --> 1:46:40.187 Sports Presenter commentator seven, times was a finalist on another ten. 1:46:40.267 --> 1:46:43.907 Occasions was appointed An officer of The New Zealand order 1:46:43.947 --> 1:46:47.067 Of merit for services To broadcasting in two thousand and 1:46:47.347 --> 1:46:52.187 nine and received The Outstanding contribution To Radio award in twenty. 1:46:52.307 --> 1:46:55.787 Fourteen but perhaps his greatest achievement was becoming one of 1:46:55.827 --> 1:47:00.387 the defining voices Of New zealand sport across a. Generation 1:47:00.947 --> 1:47:03.907 as we celebrate a century of news, talks 'b a 1:47:03.947 --> 1:47:07.747 great pleasure to welcome back one of the statesations broadcasting. 1:47:08.027 --> 1:47:11.787 Legends Murray deeker is with. Us, murray great to have 1:47:11.907 --> 1:47:14.947 you on the. Air you spent nearly thirty years behind 1:47:14.987 --> 1:47:17.387 the microphone here At News Talk. Zbaby when you first 1:47:17.507 --> 1:47:21.067 walked into the zb, studio did you have any idea 1:47:21.707 --> 1:47:22.667 what the journey would? 1:47:22.707 --> 1:47:28.027 Become, pony that's an outstanding. Introduction, listen the checker is 1:47:28.067 --> 1:47:29.507 on the. Way you've got it word for. 1:47:29.587 --> 1:47:34.867 It, well a man of your quality deserves an intro like. 1:47:34.947 --> 1:47:36.027 That but where did it all? 1:47:36.107 --> 1:47:41.547 Begin, well it basically, began as things often. DO i 1:47:41.987 --> 1:47:46.307 was a replacement for other, people mainly For Andy, hayden 1:47:46.507 --> 1:47:49.107 and he did a show between eleven and. Twelve and 1:47:50.467 --> 1:47:52.787 at the TIME i was running The foundation For alcohol 1:47:52.867 --> 1:47:55.907 And Drug education and the mative minde was packing. Pies 1:47:55.947 --> 1:47:57.907 he was running a pie factory and he looked. Down 1:47:58.187 --> 1:48:00.707 he was the only Person i'd told THAT i had 1:48:00.747 --> 1:48:03.307 to get out of the area of drug and alcohol. 1:48:03.467 --> 1:48:08.267 Education only person he looked down he saw scoreboard presenter. 1:48:08.507 --> 1:48:10.907 Required he rang me. Up he, said, mate this is your. 1:48:11.027 --> 1:48:15.347 Job you should get into. THIS i Rang Bill francis 1:48:15.427 --> 1:48:17.427 said to, Me, NO i didn't think you'd be interested in, 1:48:17.547 --> 1:48:21.787 that because you dedicated to the area of. EDUCATION i, said, 1:48:21.827 --> 1:48:24.107 Mate i've had an absolute cuts full of. It i'm 1:48:24.147 --> 1:48:28.027 ready to move. On what, Happened, fortunately was it a 1:48:28.147 --> 1:48:32.427 guy WHO i don't know Called bill McLaren bill McCarthy 1:48:33.067 --> 1:48:36.187 And wellington had been already, appointed but he was arguing 1:48:36.267 --> 1:48:38.667 about the money that they were, paying and it was 1:48:38.787 --> 1:48:42.987 no wonder the money was. Pathetic and so while he 1:48:43.187 --> 1:48:46.307 was arguing with, that they gave me a. Trial AND 1:48:46.507 --> 1:48:49.467 i had been sitting in that seat where you sat, 1:48:49.587 --> 1:48:52.067 too And i'd been there about an hour and a, 1:48:52.107 --> 1:48:54.707 half AND i thought that this Jacket wellington comes, Up 1:48:54.947 --> 1:48:58.107 i'll kill him BECAUSE i knew that this was the 1:48:58.267 --> 1:48:58.547 job for. 1:48:58.707 --> 1:49:02.307 Me well it was the job for, you and your 1:49:02.387 --> 1:49:06.747 style became a legendary. Passionate you were, Fourth you were 1:49:06.827 --> 1:49:10.947 never afraid to ask difficult. Questions did that style come 1:49:11.107 --> 1:49:14.867 naturally or was it something you developed over? Time, no 1:49:14.987 --> 1:49:15.187 it was. 1:49:15.307 --> 1:49:18.347 NATURAL i felt it was my job to ask the 1:49:18.467 --> 1:49:23.147 questions that the listener, wanted asked that the bloke sitting 1:49:23.227 --> 1:49:26.947 in the car driving along or the woman preparing dinner 1:49:27.427 --> 1:49:31.267 would have asked WHOEVER i was, interviewing and that led 1:49:31.307 --> 1:49:35.587 at times to tough, questions controversial, questions and it didn't. 1:49:35.667 --> 1:49:40.227 MATTER i viewed it very carefully THAT i was there 1:49:40.347 --> 1:49:44.187 for two, things for the listeners and to promote, sport 1:49:44.707 --> 1:49:47.547 and that was. It and of personalities got in the 1:49:47.587 --> 1:49:49.267 way or that was their, problem not. 1:49:49.427 --> 1:49:51.787 Mine did you ever think to, yourself, All i've gone 1:49:51.787 --> 1:49:53.787 a bit far there or did you never think? 1:49:53.867 --> 1:49:53.907 That? 1:49:55.227 --> 1:49:57.027 NO i never thought that never crossed my. 1:49:57.107 --> 1:50:01.667 Mind on talk, radio we tend to use a delay 1:50:01.747 --> 1:50:05.027 function that allows us to dump anything which shouldn't go 1:50:05.107 --> 1:50:08.067 to Where NOW i understand that you would often broadcast 1:50:08.667 --> 1:50:10.707 without a. Delay so did you ever get caught? 1:50:10.787 --> 1:50:11.707 Out, yeah. 1:50:11.787 --> 1:50:18.507 Totally i'm coached In New Aukland Secondary school's rugby team 1:50:18.547 --> 1:50:20.387 in one of the outstanding players and it was a 1:50:20.427 --> 1:50:23.267 guy Called Murray. Dixon it was a team that had 1:50:23.347 --> 1:50:27.987 in It Shawn, Fitzpatrick farnobodika. Feenie you, know there were 1:50:27.987 --> 1:50:30.267 a lot of great players mark great batchels in, them 1:50:30.587 --> 1:50:32.987 but the spot was off the back of the line 1:50:32.987 --> 1:50:37.387 out and he was the. Star AND i sort of 1:50:37.427 --> 1:50:39.587 forgot about him AS i moved into. Radio and then 1:50:39.627 --> 1:50:43.747 about nineteen ninety two he ranged me up at home 1:50:43.787 --> 1:50:47.147 and SAID i need a. Favor AND i, SAID, dicko 1:50:47.227 --> 1:50:49.347 what is? It and he, SAID i need to get 1:50:49.387 --> 1:50:52.747 on your radio. Program i'm working For epiglass And i'm 1:50:52.787 --> 1:50:55.627 meant to be selling this stuff and he, said you, 1:50:55.707 --> 1:50:57.747 KNOW i need a plug AND i, said just doesn't 1:50:57.827 --> 1:50:59.787 work like, that, MATE i can't do. It AND i 1:50:59.827 --> 1:51:03.547 could hear the disappointment coming all the way from West 1:51:03.587 --> 1:51:06.867 auckland to. Me AND i said to, him, listen does 1:51:07.107 --> 1:51:10.307 every glass sponsor or? Anything and he, said, yeah The Tenor. 1:51:10.387 --> 1:51:12.907 Cup AND i didn't have a clue what he was talking, 1:51:12.907 --> 1:51:15.107 about AND i, said, well when's that? On he said 1:51:15.147 --> 1:51:18.307 next week In New plymouth and this is a race 1:51:18.427 --> 1:51:20.667 for in pea class yachts. 1:51:20.387 --> 1:51:22.027 For little boys and. 1:51:22.227 --> 1:51:26.907 Girls and SO i, said you go down, there take 1:51:26.947 --> 1:51:29.787 a mobile phone with you and cover it And i'll 1:51:29.827 --> 1:51:33.427 come to. You SO i come into Z b at 1:51:33.467 --> 1:51:37.027 about eleven o'clock an hour before we started by that stage, 1:51:37.507 --> 1:51:39.947 buildings as he often, did my producers have a gap 1:51:39.987 --> 1:51:43.147 OF plexi he, said who's this snipwork you've got coming? 1:51:43.227 --> 1:51:45.787 ON i, said what are you talking? About he, said 1:51:45.787 --> 1:51:47.947 we're announcing an all black team at twelve. O'clock if 1:51:47.987 --> 1:51:50.507 this joker wants to wants to go on before. 1:51:50.587 --> 1:51:51.387 Them and. 1:51:52.867 --> 1:51:56.347 So at two o'clock what happened was This we FINALLY 1:51:57.027 --> 1:51:59.947 i calmed Down murray AND i said to, him, mate 1:51:59.987 --> 1:52:02.307 we'll have you on straight. Up the music, too and 1:52:02.467 --> 1:52:04.067 after THE us it. Too it went like, This. 1:52:05.907 --> 1:52:06.507 It is The. 1:52:06.627 --> 1:52:13.107 America's cup of secondary school. Yachting the greats have been, Here, Blake, Dixon, 1:52:14.027 --> 1:52:18.107 barker they've all. Competed and now to cover this event 1:52:18.627 --> 1:52:23.387 and association With, epiglass that wonderful product that we've got 1:52:24.467 --> 1:52:27.707 Is Murray. Dixon murray was in a tin boat and 1:52:27.827 --> 1:52:29.707 he stood out of the tin boat and stood on a, 1:52:29.787 --> 1:52:35.867 crab and so the class cross, went our man down 1:52:35.947 --> 1:52:40.467 there Is Murray. Dixon. Shit oh, sorry, deeps BUT i 1:52:40.547 --> 1:52:44.387 stood on a flippant. Grab now the word wasn't, flippant 1:52:44.427 --> 1:52:45.507 but it was rhymed with. 1:52:45.627 --> 1:52:50.027 It, amazing, amazing. 1:52:50.147 --> 1:52:54.667 Stuff not one, complank not one, Complaint. Piney people just 1:52:54.867 --> 1:52:58.667 know when someone's genuine or. Not dixon denies a path 1:52:58.707 --> 1:52:59.907 of the time WHEN i run into. 1:53:01.307 --> 1:53:05.067 That's. Magnificent you Mentioned Greg billings, there your longtime. Producer 1:53:05.267 --> 1:53:06.147 tell us a bit more about. 1:53:06.187 --> 1:53:11.387 Him, yeah twenty three years he produced that. Program he's 1:53:11.427 --> 1:53:18.187 got he's got an amazing feel for. Radio he'd been 1:53:18.267 --> 1:53:20.107 in it all his. Life you, SEE i hadn't. Been 1:53:21.227 --> 1:53:24.387 and WHEN i came, in all he did was grizzly 1:53:24.547 --> 1:53:28.027 moan and yell at. Me AND i had to fill 1:53:28.107 --> 1:53:30.947 in for Late In smith one, day And Carolyn leane 1:53:30.987 --> 1:53:35.347 he said after the, intro, jeekes that was. Terrific AND 1:53:35.467 --> 1:53:37.107 i looked up at her and thought she was taking 1:53:37.107 --> 1:53:39.627 the piss out of, me because that's All gregor and ever. 1:53:39.747 --> 1:53:44.787 Done and YET i could not have wished for a better. 1:53:45.347 --> 1:53:49.747 Producer he suited my. Style he was very loyal to 1:53:49.867 --> 1:53:50.507 me behind my. 1:53:50.627 --> 1:53:51.427 Back he just. 1:53:51.467 --> 1:53:52.307 Defended me all the. 1:53:52.387 --> 1:53:56.347 Time that's got sick of doing. It and for twenty three. 1:53:56.427 --> 1:53:58.667 Years we went to war. Together and he read me 1:53:58.707 --> 1:54:01.027 about three days ago and he said to, Me i've 1:54:01.107 --> 1:54:03.107 just sent a nd AND i won't mention the radio. 1:54:03.227 --> 1:54:06.107 Station it's not. Ours he, Said i've just seen an 1:54:06.107 --> 1:54:08.827 ad for a program on A. Saturday it's got four. 1:54:08.947 --> 1:54:12.787 Producers can you imagine? That AND i thought to, Myself, 1:54:12.947 --> 1:54:16.467 greg you know you produced. It we did six hours On, 1:54:16.587 --> 1:54:20.827 saturday six hours On, sunday every public. HOLIDAY i did 1:54:20.907 --> 1:54:23.507 two hundred and fourteen shows in a row BECAUSE i 1:54:23.747 --> 1:54:26.667 wasn't prepared to not go on in case that guy 1:54:26.787 --> 1:54:29.387 from McCarthy From wellington came up and on a, receipt 1:54:29.867 --> 1:54:31.347 SO i wasn't going to let anyone else in. 1:54:31.507 --> 1:54:32.747 There and we just worked. 1:54:32.787 --> 1:54:36.987 Together And i've probably spent more time with him THAN 1:54:37.067 --> 1:54:41.467 i have with my, wife and you, know AND i 1:54:41.587 --> 1:54:44.867 live with. Her But greg AND i just got, on 1:54:45.667 --> 1:54:49.267 and you, know we still get. On we still, argue 1:54:49.387 --> 1:54:51.547 and we still, fight and he still tells me off 1:54:51.787 --> 1:54:53.547 AND i still tell him WHAT i think of. Him 1:54:53.747 --> 1:54:55.427 BUT i would not have swapped him for. 1:54:55.507 --> 1:54:59.187 Anyone, yeah he is a brilliant. Guy he used to ring, 1:54:59.307 --> 1:55:01.587 Up It's greg from the. Radio that's all you needed to. 1:55:01.627 --> 1:55:05.507 Know It's greg from the. Radio and everybody. 1:55:04.547 --> 1:55:05.067 Knew who he. 1:55:05.307 --> 1:55:11.027 Was viewed hundreds thousands of sports, people. Digs who do 1:55:11.107 --> 1:55:11.947 you admire the? 1:55:12.107 --> 1:55:14.827 Most richie McCaw. 1:55:17.907 --> 1:55:22.347 For all sorts of reasons his captaincy winning The World 1:55:22.467 --> 1:55:29.347 cup on one, leg but a personal, Side richie has 1:55:29.507 --> 1:55:34.227 incredible royalty to. People so On rebel with A cause ON, 1:55:34.387 --> 1:55:40.347 TV i Imitated hanson and you know how he, diversity 1:55:40.907 --> 1:55:43.467 it's going to be down the, dub all that sort 1:55:43.467 --> 1:55:44.907 of stuff that he was, doing AND i did it 1:55:44.987 --> 1:55:45.947 all at the. 1:55:46.107 --> 1:55:46.427 End of the. 1:55:46.547 --> 1:55:50.587 Program richie had been injured and had been appearing on 1:55:50.787 --> 1:55:55.187 my radio show at the top of the program and 1:55:55.267 --> 1:55:59.107 people had loved. It so AFTER i had done, that 1:55:59.507 --> 1:56:02.667 we went to cross to him and he wasn't. There 1:56:03.267 --> 1:56:07.387 we made inquiries and he's message came, back If mary's 1:56:07.387 --> 1:56:09.707 going to criticize my friends like, THAT i don't want 1:56:09.707 --> 1:56:12.947 to barron. It SO i wasn't going to back. DOWN 1:56:13.067 --> 1:56:14.947 i seen him a message saying. YOU i, said you, 1:56:15.027 --> 1:56:17.867 Know henson had been sitting straight opposite me AND i 1:56:17.907 --> 1:56:18.427 said the same. 1:56:18.507 --> 1:56:20.067 Thing and. 1:56:21.667 --> 1:56:24.507 We didn't make contact again for three or four. MONTHS 1:56:25.507 --> 1:56:27.507 i was going through a period where BASICALLY i couldn't 1:56:27.507 --> 1:56:29.347 get any all black on my show at. ALL i 1:56:29.387 --> 1:56:31.867 went through a period one time pinety of about three. 1:56:31.987 --> 1:56:35.187 Years people weren't aware of it BECAUSE i just talked 1:56:35.187 --> 1:56:38.827 about them instead of to. Them, ANYWAY i couldn't get to, 1:56:38.947 --> 1:56:43.947 anyone AND i applied to through the kennels and came through. That, 1:56:44.107 --> 1:56:46.547 Yes George duncan would come. On he was the message, 1:56:46.587 --> 1:56:52.067 guy And Richard gill who was the fit this, guy 1:56:52.347 --> 1:56:58.667 and then McCaw And richie flew up From christchurch went 1:56:58.747 --> 1:57:00.787 on THE tv. Show of course we recorded at for 1:57:00.907 --> 1:57:05.427 radio as, well and after the show we were driving 1:57:05.507 --> 1:57:08.587 to the hotel he was staying In Spencer On byron 1:57:09.187 --> 1:57:12.467 AND i, Said, TOM i really appreciate you coming, up 1:57:13.147 --> 1:57:15.707 And richie just looked at me and he, said, well 1:57:15.827 --> 1:57:19.467 that's in the, Past, Murray let's move. On and that's 1:57:19.587 --> 1:57:24.627 the mark of the. Man he is, spectacular no question about. 1:57:24.667 --> 1:57:27.267 It EVERYTHING i had to do with him was to 1:57:27.347 --> 1:57:32.947 do with, loyal, humility total, essence no wonder The All 1:57:33.027 --> 1:57:34.227 blacks played well under. 1:57:34.307 --> 1:57:39.547 Him you've Seen New zealand sport evolve enormously both during 1:57:39.587 --> 1:57:41.947 your time behind the, mic all of that time and 1:57:42.107 --> 1:57:45.787 the time Since. Murray in your, eyes what has changed 1:57:45.827 --> 1:57:47.627 the most for better and also for. 1:57:47.747 --> 1:57:51.987 Worse standards are, HIGHER i, reckon the times are, better 1:57:52.147 --> 1:57:57.827 the skills are more, developed and the professionalism is becoming a. 1:57:57.987 --> 1:58:05.027 Parent what's, worse club sport has, suffered particularly, rugby And 1:58:05.147 --> 1:58:08.507 i'm disappointed in. THAT i get told by the guys 1:58:08.547 --> 1:58:11.427 at North Shore Rugby club So i'm In gunbury and 1:58:11.547 --> 1:58:14.267 co that their clubs has. Gone and in fact it 1:58:14.387 --> 1:58:16.867 is true that in some areas club rugby is still, 1:58:16.947 --> 1:58:20.267 strong but there are less numbers. Playing AND i think 1:58:20.347 --> 1:58:21.987 that has a lot to do with the fact that 1:58:22.107 --> 1:58:25.747 there is too much concentration on the top of the 1:58:25.827 --> 1:58:30.187 pyramid and not enough on the grass. Roots New zealand 1:58:30.387 --> 1:58:34.627 sport is strong when the grass roots are. Strong and 1:58:34.907 --> 1:58:37.227 IF i was to find one other thing that stands 1:58:37.307 --> 1:58:41.867 out to, me and it just stands out so. CLEARLY 1:58:42.747 --> 1:58:45.827 i cannot believe the success That New zealand cricket. Has 1:58:47.227 --> 1:58:51.467 people don't talk about. It there is no other country 1:58:51.747 --> 1:58:55.867 in the world has ever gone To india and won 1:58:55.907 --> 1:58:59.547 A test series three. Nil we were the first to 1:58:59.707 --> 1:59:04.547 win the Inaugural Test. Championship we were beaten that time 1:59:04.667 --> 1:59:07.627 when the bat ball Hit stokes as bat in the 1:59:07.867 --> 1:59:10.667 fifty to. Fifty we go to The West indies with 1:59:10.787 --> 1:59:12.587 a team And i'm looking at these jokers that are 1:59:12.587 --> 1:59:14.507 playing over. THERE i don't even have a clue who they. 1:59:14.547 --> 1:59:17.747 Are they've been pulled in off the paddic and they 1:59:17.867 --> 1:59:20.547 beat The West. Indies could, god The West indians used 1:59:20.547 --> 1:59:25.947 to murder. Us cricket gets a bum rush from today's 1:59:26.027 --> 1:59:31.747 media there are it very rarely leads THE tv in zen. 1:59:31.867 --> 1:59:36.627 News and you, Know i'm waiting to hope That Andrew 1:59:36.707 --> 1:59:38.827 saville is at our reunion BECAUSE i want to get 1:59:38.947 --> 1:59:41.627 right at his ear and chewy about because he could 1:59:41.667 --> 1:59:46.187 do something on. That cricket has been the success story for. 1:59:46.347 --> 1:59:51.667 Me women's sports getting more. Emphasis why? Not and you do, 1:59:51.867 --> 1:59:55.147 that and you do without thinking about. IT i actually 1:59:55.307 --> 1:59:57.547 used to think about making sure that it was women's 1:59:57.547 --> 2:00:02.067 sport on my program because in those, days the person 2:00:02.147 --> 2:00:05.467 who was in charge of the radio in the house 2:00:05.907 --> 2:00:08.867 was the white AND i wanted to get ratings, up 2:00:09.027 --> 2:00:11.027 and SO i used to do a lot on, netball in, 2:00:11.147 --> 2:00:13.907 particular because it was a SPORT i knew a little 2:00:13.907 --> 2:00:14.787 bit about because. 2:00:14.587 --> 2:00:15.387 My sister played. 2:00:15.427 --> 2:00:19.987 It very sound strategy just to finish. Stakes zedby's been 2:00:20.027 --> 2:00:22.587 part Of New Yellen holmes for one hundred years, now 2:00:22.747 --> 2:00:25.467 one hundred. Years when people look back at your, contribution 2:00:25.747 --> 2:00:30.347 your significant contribution to THE zb, story what do you 2:00:30.427 --> 2:00:33.267 hope they. REMEMBER i hope they. 2:00:33.187 --> 2:00:37.467 Put a smile on their, face AND i hope that they, think, 2:00:38.467 --> 2:00:41.627 hey he told it the way he saw. It sometimes 2:00:41.667 --> 2:00:44.707 he got it, wrong sometimes he got it. Right but 2:00:44.827 --> 2:00:48.947 he told it with, passion and he told it with almost. 2:00:49.027 --> 2:00:53.227 Love because, really When i'm asked what are the things 2:00:53.267 --> 2:00:56.947 THAT i like in my, world sport is right up. 2:00:56.987 --> 2:01:00.587 There family first and then sports second for. Me and 2:01:00.667 --> 2:01:02.147 it will always be like, That AND i hope that 2:01:02.187 --> 2:01:06.987 that's what people, remember because it was with out doubt 2:01:08.107 --> 2:01:11.347 the time of my life THAT i will always look 2:01:11.467 --> 2:01:15.427 back on with warmths and with the fact THAT i 2:01:15.827 --> 2:01:19.307 worked with a gang of good, people but particularly the 2:01:19.427 --> 2:01:21.627 relationship With billings was important One. 2:01:23.067 --> 2:01:25.907 MURRAY i just wanted to finish by thanking you personally 2:01:26.027 --> 2:01:28.347 for the trail that you blazed for everyone who's followed 2:01:28.427 --> 2:01:30.587 you into the wonderful world of. Sport on news talks 2:01:30.587 --> 2:01:33.307 he'd BE i listened to you growing up and as 2:01:33.347 --> 2:01:35.987 a young man and never believed i'd be given the 2:01:36.067 --> 2:01:38.307 honor of the same microphone that you. Had none of 2:01:38.387 --> 2:01:41.267 us will ever match what you did or the impact 2:01:41.347 --> 2:01:45.187 and influence you had on many many. People congratulations on 2:01:45.307 --> 2:01:49.827 your hugely significant role in our broadcasting. History and thanks 2:01:49.867 --> 2:01:52.107 for joining us this. Afternoon you're too. 2:01:52.227 --> 2:01:55.267 Kind keep up the good work and keep doing the 2:01:55.427 --> 2:01:58.107 job that most people would give their right arm, for 2:01:58.627 --> 2:02:00.627 and especially, Me i'd give the whole. 2:02:00.707 --> 2:02:04.507 Lot we should get you back In. Dicks good to 2:02:04.627 --> 2:02:07.227 jet to, You Murray, dicker the one only eight and 2:02:07.267 --> 2:02:08.027 a half to Three News. 2:02:08.067 --> 2:02:11.867 Talks he'd be the big names and the big calls 2:02:11.987 --> 2:02:16.427 on your home of Sport Weekend sport With Jason Fine News. 2:02:16.507 --> 2:02:19.427 Talks dB el, says a great interview With. Dex are 2:02:19.427 --> 2:02:22.867 you two going to the same barber these these? Days? Hell, 2:02:23.427 --> 2:02:27.507 yes we have a very similar. Hairstyle that's us for. 2:02:27.667 --> 2:02:29.987 Today huge thanks To anny McDonald for pulling everything. Together 2:02:30.027 --> 2:02:32.307 good on you. Mate well we'll see you tomorrow night 2:02:32.347 --> 2:02:35.787 On Sports. Talk thank you for listening In after three 2:02:35.867 --> 2:02:39.707 It's Tim beverage with The Weekend. Collective just as we, 2:02:39.787 --> 2:02:42.307 close as we bring up one hundred years of coming 2:02:42.347 --> 2:02:44.187 out of here, speakers it is NATURAL i think to 2:02:44.707 --> 2:02:47.867 ask what the future might be for. Radio it is 2:02:47.987 --> 2:02:50.987 my belief that we will always need. Audio there are 2:02:51.067 --> 2:02:54.267 many times in our lives when we can't watch or read, 2:02:54.427 --> 2:02:57.387 something but we can always listen to. IT i believe 2:02:57.427 --> 2:03:00.347 the spoken word will be transmitted in some, way shape 2:03:00.427 --> 2:03:03.267 or form until the end of. Time, personally it has 2:03:03.307 --> 2:03:05.987 been an absolute joy playing my small part on News. 2:03:06.027 --> 2:03:09.587 TALKS i love coming here every day and carrying the 2:03:09.667 --> 2:03:12.387 legacy of this radio. Station The All blacks often say 2:03:12.427 --> 2:03:15.707 they're only the caretakers of the jersey that they. WEAR 2:03:15.867 --> 2:03:18.627 i feel the same about our. Microphones no one is 2:03:18.667 --> 2:03:21.587 bigger than the radio, station and all we can and 2:03:21.667 --> 2:03:25.987 should strive for is contributing our chapter and leaving it 2:03:26.107 --> 2:03:29.307 better than we found. It it was my honor and 2:03:29.507 --> 2:03:32.347 privilege to turn the microphone on just once on this 2:03:32.707 --> 2:03:35.947 iconic radio. Station to be trusted with it every weekend 2:03:36.107 --> 2:03:39.907 is SOMETHING i will never ever take for. Granted So happy, 2:03:39.987 --> 2:03:44.027 Birthday News talk. Zbat here's to the next one. 2:03:44.147 --> 2:04:09.667 Hundred say. 2:04:10.187 --> 2:04:15.107 We all a got a hundred years to live. 2:04:24.227 --> 2:04:26.267 For more From Weekends sport With Jason. 2:04:26.347 --> 2:04:29.547 Fine listen live To News talks It be weekends from 2:04:29.627 --> 2:04:31.587 midday or follow the podcast On. 2:04:31.707 --> 2:04:32.387 iHeartRadio