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Speaker 3: If anybody understands the cauldron and the physical nature of
Speaker 3: rugby tests in South Africa, it is former All Blacks
Speaker 3: captain Sam Kain.
Speaker 4: Aaron Smith Nice over the head pass from Barrett for
Speaker 4: Will Jordan right hand side of the park is the
Speaker 4: skip up Sam Kaine, right hand side the All Black school.
Speaker 4: At first try and look how much it means to them.
Speaker 3: But Sam Kaine also knows better than most the physical
Speaker 3: toll elite rugby can take. And now the former All
Speaker 3: Blacks captain and one hundred and five match All Blacks
Speaker 3: loose forward is lending his support to a New Zealand
Speaker 3: developed initiative aimed at improving the way concussion is managed
Speaker 3: at every level of the game. He has become an
Speaker 3: ambassador for hit Kit, a rapid response concussion kit created
Speaker 3: by concussion specialist and founder of the Headache Clinic Helen
Speaker 3: to FUI to help players, coaches, and families navigate the
Speaker 3: crucial first seventy two hours after a suspected head knock
Speaker 3: at any level of the game. Sam King's with us.
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Sam, Thanks for your time, mate. What was
Speaker 3: it about hit kit and helen to Fui's work that
Speaker 3: made you want to get involved?
Speaker 5: Hey, Pini, thanks having me on. You summarized it all
Speaker 5: pretty well there in the intro. But the reason I
Speaker 5: wanted to get involved, and it was purely just because
Speaker 5: I saw the work. I saw what she had created
Speaker 5: and literally just flipped a message and said, well done,
Speaker 5: I'm right imagine this is going to have a really
Speaker 5: positive impact on the community game and good on you
Speaker 5: for creating it. And she messaged back saying thank you.
Speaker 5: Would you like to be involved in helping get it
Speaker 5: out there? And I just thought, yeah, it's a great opportunity.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm happy to do my partner help try
Speaker 5: and promote it and get it out there and hopefully
Speaker 5: you get to a stage where sort of every rugby
Speaker 5: team in New Zealand, right from junior foot all the
Speaker 5: way up, has one on the sideline in case something happens.
Speaker 3: Throughout your rugby career. How much did your understanding of
Speaker 3: concussion change from when you first started playing to when
Speaker 3: you well, I mean you're still playing, But how much
Speaker 3: has it changed across your career.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's changed a lot, for sure, and it will
Speaker 5: change a lot in the next ten years too. I
Speaker 5: think even from when I started out, there was still
Speaker 5: protocols in place, but just our level of understanding of
Speaker 5: it has increased massively, and I think there's been real
Speaker 5: positive steps in the professional game. And we are lucky
Speaker 5: because we've got medical experts on hand to help us
Speaker 5: and navigate the recovery process and make sure we're fairly
Speaker 5: well looked after. But get the community game often rely
Speaker 5: on volunteers and parents to do their best, and the
Speaker 5: kit just allows them like peace of mind with some
Speaker 5: real clear guidelines around what to do.
Speaker 6: And that's all you.
Speaker 5: Want for those semi two hours is to know that
Speaker 5: you've done everything you can to he upset someone up
Speaker 5: for a full recovery.
Speaker 3: It's a physical sport, it's a contact sport. That's the
Speaker 3: attraction for a lot of people who get involved in it.
Speaker 3: How difficult is it as a player to admit that
Speaker 3: you've taken a knock to their head when your instinct
Speaker 3: is just to stay on.
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's two different knocks. If someone's taken
Speaker 5: a bad one, sometimes they're not actually aware that they're
Speaker 5: not quite right, and that's where you you do rely
Speaker 5: on teammates, you know, people on the sideline to pick
Speaker 5: those sort of things up. And then there's other knocks
Speaker 5: where you're not sure or you always you say you
Speaker 5: do know you're not quite right, but you know part
Speaker 5: of you may want to try and carry on, and
Speaker 5: it's it's almost an embedded into the rugby culture over years.
Speaker 5: You know, like if you're a little bit injured you
Speaker 5: can still play on, then stay on from back in
Speaker 5: the days when you know a player would never go
Speaker 5: off and give someone on the bench an opportunity. When
Speaker 5: it comes to hid knock, the bravest and the most
Speaker 5: grateous thing you can do is put your hand up
Speaker 5: and say no, I'm not quite right and take yourself off.
Speaker 5: Because we know from studies it's like one taking a
Speaker 5: knock is one thing, but it's to take two blows
Speaker 5: in one game can can be a lot worse. So look,
Speaker 5: there's been twice think in my career where I've taken
Speaker 5: a knock, tried to play on for a couple of
Speaker 5: minutes and realized I'm not quite right and put my
Speaker 5: hand up and taken myself off the field.
Speaker 3: Yes, Do you think attitudes among players have changed, have
Speaker 3: genuinely changed or is there still a bit of a
Speaker 3: tendency to as you say, of you know, I'm okay,
Speaker 3: I've taken ahead, I'll play on. Do you think there's
Speaker 3: still a tendency to downplay concussion symptoms in some areas
Speaker 3: or has there been major improvement.
Speaker 5: There's definitely been major improvement. Like it's really hard to
Speaker 5: speak on behalf of everyone, but I know a lot
Speaker 5: personally my attitudes towards it, certainly in the probably second
Speaker 5: half of my career, having seen teammates have had to
Speaker 5: retire from it. And then, yeah, I suppose I'm a
Speaker 5: sort of bit of a low key advocate, Like if
Speaker 5: I see someone take a knock, I'll be one of
Speaker 5: the first to check in and make sure they ride
Speaker 5: or alert someone from the sideline. So I think it
Speaker 5: has change. It It's always difficult because some players are
Speaker 5: at different stages of their careers. They might be playing
Speaker 5: for an opportunity they've just got an opportunity or playing
Speaker 5: for a contract with all these sort of things, and that's
Speaker 5: where things can be harder for some people. But the
Speaker 5: more education that we've got out there, the more awareness
Speaker 5: and we create around it, then hopefully we'll continue to
Speaker 5: trend in the right direction.
Speaker 3: I know every parent listening and you're probably the same.
Speaker 3: You know, you want the best for your kids and
Speaker 3: you don't want to put them into into potentially perilous situations,
Speaker 3: but you want them to get involved in sport, and
Speaker 3: rugby is a massive part of our sporting culture. Parents
Speaker 3: I know can sometimes struggle with the decision of whether
Speaker 3: their child should even play rugby or return to the
Speaker 3: sport after they've taken a knock. What is your message
Speaker 3: to rugby mums and dads.
Speaker 5: Well, it's such an amazing sport. Well, sport in general
Speaker 5: is great, but the camaraderie that you get from rugby,
Speaker 5: the all the life lessons you learn, like there's you
Speaker 5: could go mountain biking, you know, all these different supports
Speaker 5: and there's always an element of risk and you know
Speaker 5: that and that's part of it what makes it fun
Speaker 5: also as well. But I think when it comes to
Speaker 5: the concussion where people shouldn't be scared off by it
Speaker 5: because a large number of cases suffering a concussion, as
Speaker 5: long as that's treated well, it's like any other injury
Speaker 5: your body will make a can make a full recovery.
Speaker 5: And that's the importance of the hit KAT is that
Speaker 5: the first seventy two ours is really important. There's clear
Speaker 5: guidelines and if someone does stuff for a concussion and
Speaker 5: you look after them well, then there's no reason why
Speaker 5: they won't make a full recovery. So although it's never
Speaker 5: nice seeing a concussion or someone affected by a blow
Speaker 5: like that, it's it can as long as it's treated,
Speaker 5: then there's a good chance everyone makes a full recovery.
Speaker 5: I'd hate for it to be the reason it scares
Speaker 5: people off, because the risks that are involved are far
Speaker 5: outweighed by the benefits and the growth that someone is
Speaker 5: likely to get as long as they fall in love
Speaker 5: with the game, that's the main thing. As a perio,
Speaker 5: I just want my kids to be able to fall
Speaker 5: in love with something a sport, an activity, or hobby
Speaker 5: and just really really go after it. And if their kids,
Speaker 5: if that's rugby for their kids, then yes, there's risks involved. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: but there's so much, so many benefits as well.
Speaker 3: Well said Mate, well said, and Kit, I think it's
Speaker 3: going to have a huge, hugely positive effect, as you say,
Speaker 3: on the first seventy two hours after a head not mate,
Speaker 3: while I've got your speaking of physical challenges in South Africa,
Speaker 3: the All Black's over there at the moment you played
Speaker 3: them sixteen times I think in test matches, were they
Speaker 3: genuinely the most physically challenging for you?
Speaker 5: He probably consistently the most physically challenging. I mean, like
Speaker 5: we had periods the earlier in my career, we had
Speaker 5: some really good wins over them, you know, like that,
Speaker 5: so they're not I think that at the start of
Speaker 5: the games, like what the All Blacks are trying to play,
Speaker 5: getting back to sort of our world call our rugby DNA,
Speaker 5: a little bit of faster tempo and trying to bring
Speaker 5: a bit of fatigue back into the game. The sound
Speaker 5: friends are like anyone to say, say, get a bit
Speaker 5: of fatigue, then the physicality drops off as well. So
Speaker 5: a key a key for us, I think, and hopefully
Speaker 5: the officials allow a free flying game one of obviously,
Speaker 5: I guess the saums wasn't like that, so it doesn't
Speaker 5: really allow the fatigue to creep in quite the same.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there physical budget a lot even you know,
Speaker 5: just yeah, kia human that's again, aren't they And it's
Speaker 5: as those close quarters you know, collectively, size does matter.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a good challenge though, like I used
Speaker 5: to love playing cert Aficans, there's.
Speaker 3: Always this talk about playing at altitude as well, you know,
Speaker 3: we've got to play at altitude that's going to be
Speaker 3: has to be a lot harder, is that true?
Speaker 5: It is a lot harder. Absolutely. It's the first time
Speaker 5: you play there, I reckon that really catches you off
Speaker 5: guard because you've never experienced anything like it. You feel unfit, Yeah,
Speaker 5: throats burning, and you're just wondering if you're going to
Speaker 5: be able to get through. But it's like a thing
Speaker 5: hard once you've done it once before, you push through,
Speaker 5: you know what you're capable of. So I experienced a
Speaker 5: few times both that almost quite enjoyed playing there because
Speaker 5: you knew it was going to get hard, but you
Speaker 5: knew you could push through. And it's not. Well, the
Speaker 5: South Africans are immune to outsitude either. There's only a
Speaker 5: small group of them that actually live at altitude. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of them don't even live in South Africa
Speaker 5: these days, play there rugby in Japan or around the world.
Speaker 5: So I don't personally, I don't see it a big,
Speaker 5: big advantage to them playing at outitude, And if anything,
Speaker 5: it may allow a little bit more fatigued to creep
Speaker 5: into the game in the sort of the last ten
Speaker 5: minutes of each half. And you know, as all boats
Speaker 5: were try and back ourselves and to execute in those
Speaker 5: moments when keep going. So yeah, it's hard, but as lively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you were part of a lot of memorable
Speaker 3: All Blacks ones in South Africa. Here at World Cups,
Speaker 3: is there one performance, one All Blacks performance that sort
Speaker 3: of stands out as the blueprint for how to beat them?
Speaker 3: Particularly over there.
Speaker 7: Perhaps we had a lot of year You're right, we
Speaker 7: had some really good wins and a lot of them involved.
Speaker 5: Some of them were at Alice Park, which is at altitude.
Speaker 5: We'll probably the most of the ones that stick outer
Speaker 5: at altitude actually, and the same thing, like you'd finished
Speaker 5: the game, or we'd have photos and the theme room
Speaker 5: of previous teams and we'd acknowledge teams that had gone
Speaker 5: before they'd finish the game and just pure exhaustion, like guys,
Speaker 5: hands on knees, crouched over and just reminds you of
Speaker 5: how deep you have to push yourself to win there.
Speaker 5: But I bit to your question around the blueprint, it's
Speaker 5: as if we're it's if we're able to move the ball.
Speaker 5: As you said, that bigger a little bit, bigger bodies,
Speaker 5: So if we can keep them, keep them moving, keep
Speaker 5: the ball in play, minimis of downtime. And I think
Speaker 5: that that plays into our hands a little bit, a
Speaker 5: little bit of variation with how we play our kicking game.
Speaker 5: If the deep the defense is coming up hard in
Speaker 5: the midfield, we've had a bit of success with some
Speaker 5: kicks in behind. So yeah, up teno the blueprint, I think,
Speaker 5: But it's a Reliza webent on the officials as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you're right there, you're right there. How's everything
Speaker 3: going in Japan? You enjoying it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's been good. It's a soft season at
Speaker 5: the moments back in New Zealand, but you head back
Speaker 5: in about three weeks to start pre season and we're
Speaker 5: at three and a half months of pre season in
Speaker 5: the heat. But yeah, one more year on my contact
Speaker 5: over there, and we'll see we might be certainly getting
Speaker 5: closer to the end.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll keep tabs on that. I've kept you
Speaker 3: from your family for long enough. Sam, Congratulations on your
Speaker 3: involvement in hit Kit. I know it's going to have
Speaker 3: a hugely positive impact on a lot of families around
Speaker 3: the country. Thanks for joining us, made always good chat.
Speaker 5: Thanks finally, thanks for thanks for giving me on to
Speaker 5: chat about it. As you say, I think it can
Speaker 5: really do some awesome stuff and hopefully in sort of
Speaker 5: five years time, it's one of those things that's sort
Speaker 5: of up there beside the first aid kits for most families.
Speaker 5: So yeah, thanks mate, No.
Speaker 3: Thank you, mate, Sam kan joining us on News TALKSB
Speaker 3: and Weekend Sport. Hit Kit is a rapid response concussion
Speaker 3: kit developed by concussion expert Helen Tofui, designed to support
Speaker 3: the critical first seventy two hours after a head injury
Speaker 3: at any level. In the kit, there is a step
Speaker 3: by step recovery guide for days one to three, a
Speaker 3: concussion red flag checklist, an instant ice pack, a rapid
Speaker 3: absorption supplement, and a mini wound care first aid pack.
Speaker 3: All of that is in hit Kit. It's only forty bucks.
Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty good value, right, pretty good value.
Speaker 3: Hit kit dot en z is where you find out
Speaker 3: more hit kit dot en z. Great to have Sam
Speaker 3: Kaine as navigated. Incredible was, isn't it? You just saw
Speaker 3: Helen to Foy's post about I thought I'll just flicker
Speaker 3: and O and say congratulations, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he's an ambassador and an advocate. Not a bad guy
Speaker 3: to have on doing doing that. Sam Kaine is also
Speaker 3: our lines open by the way O eight hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty, as though always are. Sam Kaine is
Speaker 3: also they're giving us the blueprint for beating the spring box.
Speaker 3: Just run them around, run those big buggers around, get
Speaker 3: them tired, induce fatigue. That's how we do it. And thankfully,
Speaker 3: Dave any strategy is based on that. Optimism has been
Speaker 3: the catch cry, hasn't it for Dave Renie's All Blacks,
Speaker 3: Quick rock ball, moving it through the hands, getting it wide,
Speaker 3: finding space. As Sam mentioned there, and he can perhaps
Speaker 3: do this now that he's not on the All Blacks.
Speaker 3: It does rely a little bit on the officials, and
Speaker 3: yesterday in the two opener, there wasn't exactly an officiating
Speaker 3: team that wanted the game to flow necessarily in that game.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair to say. Hopefully it'll be better
Speaker 3: in the Test matches. But I feel after hearing Sam
Speaker 3: Kane talk one hundred test All Black former captain talk
Speaker 3: about how you do it and he won a lot
Speaker 3: of Test matches over there. I crunch the numbers on
Speaker 3: Sam Kine ahead of that interview. He played against South
Speaker 3: Africa sixteen times, won ten of them, and seven of
Speaker 3: those games he played against them more in South Africa
Speaker 3: and he won four, so he was more often a
Speaker 3: winner in South Africa than he was on the losing side.
Speaker 3: I feel a lot more optimistic. How optimistic do you
Speaker 3: feel about this upcoming Test series? Yesterday we spoke about
Speaker 3: it about yesterday's game. We can touch on that but
Speaker 3: tonight at around ten o'clock. The side to face the
Speaker 3: Sharks in Durban Wednesday morning is named by Dave Rennie,
Speaker 3: so we'll have I think it will almost completely changed side.
Speaker 3: We'll find out now. I think we can all pretty
Speaker 3: much name it the shadow side for these Test matches.
Speaker 3: That's what he's going to put out against the Sharks
Speaker 3: in Durban on Wednesday. So if you want to kick
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Speaker 3: Twelve twenty nine on News Talks Ebagetti calls in a moment,
Speaker 3: But as we celebrate one hundred years of ZEB, we're
Speaker 3: remembering some of the great moments of sport from the
Speaker 3: last century. Three Rugby World Cup wins for the All
Speaker 3: Blacks nineteen eighty seven in Auckland.
Speaker 8: The game is all over and the All Blacks have
Speaker 8: won this match against the franch by twenty nine points
Speaker 8: to nine, and the All Blacks become the first holders
Speaker 8: of the William Ware Allis Trophy.
Speaker 3: The Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 8: They are supreme in world rugby. Let's have beaten France
Speaker 8: in the final.
Speaker 3: Here John Macbeth on the call there twenty eleven in Auckland.
Speaker 9: The game is over.
Speaker 10: New Zealand nights France seven New Zealand.
Speaker 4: The Rugby World Cup Chapions top.
Speaker 11: Two thousand and eleven.
Speaker 3: Nigel Yolden that time PJ. Montgomery was on the sideline
Speaker 3: with Graham Henry afterwards in the World.
Speaker 9: Cup beater to be already tapped in it.
Speaker 2: So that's a huge game of rugby.
Speaker 11: And now guys am just hanging there into the business.
Speaker 10: And what did you think when you had to put
Speaker 10: Donald on?
Speaker 11: Goodness gracious?
Speaker 2: Then he play well.
Speaker 10: The atmosphere down here on the floor of Eden Park.
Speaker 3: Is quite extraordinary.
Speaker 10: I've been on the touch line for many many years
Speaker 10: now but experience nothing.
Speaker 3: Like this PJ. And then of course twenty fifteen at
Speaker 3: Twickenham with Nigel back on the mic.
Speaker 12: Bolly to Bill, Bill trying to get to the outside,
Speaker 12: cuts it back.
Speaker 11: Let's take it.
Speaker 4: Bit Smith, Smith steps still stepping bit Smith.
Speaker 13: Now he tucks the foot race.
Speaker 12: Bonet parrot, bonet parrot.
Speaker 11: Does it set up? He tries to tow it on
Speaker 11: that that's up. There's no try that tries the World.
Speaker 10: Cup winner bone it parrots turnover ball.
Speaker 11: Oh blacks linked in the field, rap it up, but
Speaker 11: a bow on it?
Speaker 9: World Chump's coming back?
Speaker 12: Did you fail it?
Speaker 3: Oh not? It's so good, so good. The goose bumps
Speaker 3: from back then, absolutely brilliant. Just a couple of texts
Speaker 3: on the concussion situation before we go to the lines
Speaker 3: mass power at Piney. This is a million miles away
Speaker 3: from my playing days, where all we had was smelling
Speaker 3: salts and it was a badge of honor to carry
Speaker 3: on playing. And it was funny you couldn't remember half
Speaker 3: the game. I'm glad things have changed. Me too, mus
Speaker 3: me too. Get a Piney says this one. If I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if you're wanting a full debate on concussion,
Speaker 3: but there is some pretty clear evidence that's been done,
Speaker 3: or clear evidence based research that's been done that states
Speaker 3: CT is caused by numerous non concussive head knocks. Rugby,
Speaker 3: NRL football, NFL all have an issue. Because of the
Speaker 3: number of non concussive hits a player gets from the
Speaker 3: ages of ten to eighteen, it means they're already well
Speaker 3: down the path by the time they make it into
Speaker 3: the big time. Yeah, it's certainly an issue. Certainly an
Speaker 3: issue to deal with. Lines are open on news talks
Speaker 3: here B twenty eight to one. Get the Chris.
Speaker 14: Yeah, mate.
Speaker 15: One of my favorite sport memories is Team New zeal
Speaker 15: And picking up the Ausies where they're boat sank.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes that yeah, the boat that just sunk to
Speaker 3: the bottom, didn't it in that America's Cup regatta. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 15: You know, after them doing us the under them, we
Speaker 15: came around and we picked them out of the water
Speaker 15: like the gentlemen we are.
Speaker 3: It's a good point. I would hope that they would
Speaker 3: have done the same to us we had these issues.
Speaker 3: Was that two thousand and three from memory when when
Speaker 3: our mast broke and they would trying to bail water
Speaker 3: out of our boat. I think I've got the year
Speaker 3: right anyway. Yeah, No, it's a good memory that the
Speaker 3: one of us helping the Aussies out is a better memory.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 15: And also about the rugby, I'd be happy overall if
Speaker 15: we managed to get like a two to two result
Speaker 15: because we are going to South Africa. I've got two
Speaker 15: very good spring Box fifteen sides. We've got a good
Speaker 15: solid one and then we've got another bunch of guys developing.
Speaker 17: So if we.
Speaker 15: Could squeak a two to two result out of there
Speaker 15: and then get through the midweek games, I think that
Speaker 15: would be a win for us going into the next
Speaker 15: World Cup.
Speaker 3: I agree, Chris, I agree, and certainly I think if
Speaker 3: we can, if we can leave South Africa after three
Speaker 3: tests with the series alive, like I feel like Baltimore
Speaker 3: might be more of a leveler in terms of the
Speaker 3: fact that it's well in Baltimore, not at altitude at
Speaker 3: Alice Park or in South Africa. Look, I Chris, I'd
Speaker 3: take two too right now. I see that on the
Speaker 3: air last week and I had a lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 3: you know that's you know, that's not an All Black's
Speaker 3: way of thinking. But if you whiten the scope out
Speaker 3: as you have to next year's World Cup, if we
Speaker 3: have a two to two series result against South Africa,
Speaker 3: just over a year after the Rugby World Cup, I'll
Speaker 3: be very happy.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, let's over.
Speaker 3: We can, but hope we can. But hope, Chris. Great
Speaker 3: to hear from you, And like I say, Sam, listening
Speaker 3: to Sam Kaine, I don't know, he just gave me
Speaker 3: a bit of a boost, you know. Former All Blacks
Speaker 3: captain you take a lot of what he sees with
Speaker 3: a huge degree of credibility behind it. He knows how
Speaker 3: to win over there. It sounds simple, doesn't it. Run
Speaker 3: the buggers are out, get them tired, because we often,
Speaker 3: you know, I guess, fall into the trap of thinking
Speaker 3: what we have to do over there is muscle up
Speaker 3: to South Africa and sort of, you know, beat them
Speaker 3: at their own game. And a couple of people have
Speaker 3: pointed out to me that actually yesterday's all black scrum,
Speaker 3: the pack was heavier than the stormers, So yes, you
Speaker 3: do have to have big men, and yesterday, with the
Speaker 3: likes of Fabie and Holland and Simon Parker involved in
Speaker 3: the front rowers as well, we did have a big pack,
Speaker 3: but the scrum was perhaps a bit of a work
Speaker 3: on yesterday. So it's not just the size, the sheer size.
Speaker 3: I want to see that ball move through the hands
Speaker 3: royguard Love, Barrett to Pyre, out to Jordan and McKenzie
Speaker 3: and whoever plays on the left wing, Clark or maybe
Speaker 3: moreby maybe Carter. Let's move the ball, Let's move it quickly.
Speaker 3: That's the recipe, fell, isn't it Run the buggers around? Mate?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 18: I reckon Pony, I reckon the big boy soon gets
Speaker 18: pretty tired when he's got to do a bit of
Speaker 18: running for a long period a time. Agree, if he
Speaker 18: gets hold of you're in trouble. But if he can't
Speaker 18: catch you, right, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, that's right.
Speaker 11: How are you?
Speaker 3: How are you feeling? I'm not sure we've spoken about
Speaker 3: the spring Box All Blacks test series. You and I.
Speaker 3: Would you take two too?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 18: I would actually like Yeah. I was just starting to Andy.
Speaker 18: I tried to get through last week. I was so
Speaker 18: busy and yesterday but it was just so busy because yeah,
Speaker 18: I've been wanting to have a chat to here just
Speaker 18: on my general views as well, if that's all right
Speaker 18: as well. Just on the way the all Backs are
Speaker 18: God and Dave. Ready, just before I do pointy, I
Speaker 18: just a quick one because I said to Andy, if
Speaker 18: you were okay with it?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 19: Good.
Speaker 18: On the Warriors I watched on Friday night. It was
Speaker 18: good to see and they I haven't clearly pulled out
Speaker 18: a bit of magic there for a while, but they
Speaker 18: stuck in there and held in there. And I do
Speaker 18: like cooks cook staff at fall Back.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, Nicole Kluk start yep, yep, I loved
Speaker 3: them there. I liked them there as well. Yep I
Speaker 3: did too.
Speaker 18: Yeah, because I get a bit hard to remember the
Speaker 18: names to pronounce them. But and Dylan as well, I've
Speaker 18: always been a great, always a mighty. He makes some
Speaker 18: good yards. He runs in there like a forward and
Speaker 18: takes it up and does a lot of yards that way.
Speaker 18: So you know his value is in that as well.
Speaker 18: And he had some great runs, so it was good
Speaker 18: to see and that Harker was something like house. They
Speaker 18: fired up, like I think it fired them up like
Speaker 18: the Bulldogs come out against them last week. They did
Speaker 18: that against Pamworth and to kind of the Panthers and Stundon.
Speaker 18: But anyhow, I'll get I'll get onto the rugby before
Speaker 18: we run out of the time. An Clark what a
Speaker 18: what a machine he is as well for the Warriors
Speaker 18: and HeLa Sema that And it's a shame that Metcalf's
Speaker 18: going because and it's worked out the way it has
Speaker 18: because yeah, he's a real set and they proved that
Speaker 18: too in that game. But yeah, I think that's I think,
Speaker 18: like Sam Caine said, run the biggers around, you know,
Speaker 18: that's the secret to beating them. I think if we
Speaker 18: can match up to them physically in the forwards and
Speaker 18: we don't get overpowered, but we stand there ground, so
Speaker 18: to speak, and put it with them, then it's run
Speaker 18: them about and get that ball out there and get
Speaker 18: them half in a bit.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 18: But because I like what Reni's doing is great, because
Speaker 18: I was wanting to say to you, like going back
Speaker 18: a bit, but I can't remember who it was we played,
Speaker 18: but it was one of those games where we had
Speaker 18: twenty minutes of absolute scored about three or four tries,
Speaker 18: and they tried something a bit different to make that
Speaker 18: happen because we were struggling up until then they come out.
Speaker 18: I think it was after the second half. That wouldn't
Speaker 18: have happened in Raises, while the short term that he
Speaker 18: had that wouldn't have happened because it seemed like that
Speaker 18: sort of creativity or thinking the player's been able to
Speaker 18: think on the field themselves and try something or talk
Speaker 18: about it seemed to be snuts shut down. So that's good.
Speaker 18: I think that's another anything where he's given the players
Speaker 18: a bit of free reign if it's not where and
Speaker 18: come up with something for me, you know, and tell
Speaker 18: me and give it a go. And the other thing
Speaker 18: to one of those games, which I thought was really good.
Speaker 18: Just the Marshall was commentating and he mentioned it because
Speaker 18: he's such an astute player. Was there was a ruckle,
Speaker 18: there was a mall and a couple of the backs
Speaker 18: came in. It might have been Ruiguard or Love or
Speaker 18: just can't remember exactly who they were, but a couple
Speaker 18: of the backs came over and they bowled the fellers
Speaker 18: off the ball.
Speaker 5: Like the forwards would normally do.
Speaker 18: And Justin commeted on that and said, I like to
Speaker 18: see that as well, because they're getting licensed to if
Speaker 18: you want to get in there, do that, you know,
Speaker 18: don't stand back and do whatever.
Speaker 5: They stick to the structure.
Speaker 18: So that was great. But I yeah, I think we're
Speaker 18: on the right track. I'm liking it and I think
Speaker 18: it is a four runner to the World Cup. I
Speaker 18: think the South African Tour is a four runners to
Speaker 18: the World Cup and to build up and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 3: Good it fell good summary, Good summary mate. I think
Speaker 3: I think I want to leave it on a high
Speaker 3: like that that you know, it is a forerunner to
Speaker 3: what's going to happen next year. Good to get your
Speaker 3: thoughts as always made on the All Blacks and the
Speaker 3: and the Warriors as well. Exciting times to be a
Speaker 3: fan of both. Text through here loving your show when
Speaker 3: I I leave, it wasn't just loving your program. That
Speaker 3: wasn't the text. My husband and I were at the
Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup final, says KB in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3: My husband won two tickets at work that day or
Speaker 3: the day before. Fantastic it was. We'll never forget it.
Speaker 3: We were surrounded by the fringe. Love it, KB, Thanks indeed, God, Hi.
Speaker 20: Mate, Yeah Ga, poney. Favorite memory. I'm just thinking about
Speaker 20: this now.
Speaker 6: For me, it was just personal to me.
Speaker 20: It was going with my dad to Sharif's Brook and
Speaker 20: bending first rugby tesday. I watched Barry's John and the
Speaker 20: Lions were playing the All Blacks, and you know, to
Speaker 20: see such high quality players and people who will remain
Speaker 20: in people who had generation's memory forever, and how wonderful.
Speaker 6: The rugby was. And anyway, so getting onto.
Speaker 20: The All Blacks in South Africa, I only you, Poney.
Speaker 20: The boy's got to move through the back line and
Speaker 20: it's got to be around. We've got to retain the posession.
Speaker 6: You can't score of the opposition the money.
Speaker 20: That got the wall in their hands, and I just
Speaker 20: too often, I think that's the problem that South Africa,
Speaker 20: as we've seen that the storm was already with the
Speaker 20: officials allowing stoppages and creating stoppages all the time, giving
Speaker 20: those guys breathing, there's irish out here, and the bloke
Speaker 20: stopping for his contact lenses repeatedly. I think of the
Speaker 20: second time around the referee saw what was going on
Speaker 20: and it says get off the fieldmate, or or we're
Speaker 20: out here.
Speaker 6: We're carrying on without you, I think, and I just think.
Speaker 20: That the rest aren't aware of what's going on, that
Speaker 20: they know we're in a team that's sucking.
Speaker 6: In the oxygen and they should be taking care of it.
Speaker 6: The other observation to make, and it's just annoying me.
Speaker 20: It's the only thing that really is annoying me with Poke.
Speaker 6: Me in New Zealand's at the moment is the halfbacks.
Speaker 20: We've got some wonderful harm bets, but we've got an
Speaker 20: awful lot of wall. Will be at the base of
Speaker 20: the scrum. They can throw it out that they're sitting
Speaker 20: there and they hesitate for five seconds or so that
Speaker 20: time gives the opposition to see whether they're going to kick,
Speaker 20: where they're going to kick, or whether they're going to
Speaker 20: pass it. They know what's coming and we shouldn't be
Speaker 20: providing at time. This game is certainly under Renny is
Speaker 20: becoming a real high speed, maintain position.
Speaker 19: Game.
Speaker 20: And I just think I saw it last night when
Speaker 20: the game between the Marcos and the Boys from down
Speaker 20: Napey Way and.
Speaker 6: The first scrum, the first two scrums, he actually at
Speaker 6: the pace of.
Speaker 20: The scrum and he must have wanted the five seconds
Speaker 20: on both occasion before he kicked the ball.
Speaker 6: And we're so obvious what's going on. It gives the
Speaker 6: opposition too much.
Speaker 3: Simon my well, Garth, you're right about that as a tactic, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right, And I think daver and he is actually
Speaker 3: trying to get the All Blacks half backs to to
Speaker 3: well first of all, to get to the right quickly
Speaker 3: and then to clear it quickly. But you know, it's
Speaker 3: a great point you make that you know, the longer
Speaker 3: you wait, the worse it gets. As far as letting
Speaker 3: the opposition get set up. Barry John lines to it.
Speaker 3: That must have been what seventy one presumably Good to
Speaker 3: have your memories, mate, good to have your memories. Seventeen
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Speaker 3: Be thirteen to one text through here. Any news on
Speaker 3: the Billy Proctor injury. Here's Neil Barnes a few hours
Speaker 3: ago on that.
Speaker 9: Too early it he's been assessed at the moment, but
Speaker 9: obviously but saw yesterday. But let's be on the positive side,
Speaker 9: and I hope that's all right. But no, I can't
Speaker 9: give you any more information because I simply don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shoulder injury for Billy Procter. He left the left
Speaker 3: the field during the win over the Stormers. So let's
Speaker 3: hope that he's going to be okay, Mark, Hi, Yeah.
Speaker 19: It's just wondering on that whether Neil Blacks or Dave
Speaker 19: Redeye sees Rico as a winger or a center, and
Speaker 19: I'm quite sure about that.
Speaker 3: A winger I reckon. A winger, I reckon yeah. I
Speaker 3: although he's pretty versatile. He played pretty well at center
Speaker 3: for a long time for the All Blacks, but I
Speaker 3: would say a winger, Yeah. I feel as though the
Speaker 3: other four are ahead of him in the queue for
Speaker 3: those midfield spots.
Speaker 19: I like him at center.
Speaker 5: I think you've got that speed and.
Speaker 19: Power and size. Really, I think he's fantastic next to Jordi.
Speaker 19: The spring Box. I mean, they can adly beat the
Speaker 19: Argentinian Pumaslau tonight, but one by seven. I mean, I
Speaker 19: think this is going to be a Fournel whitewash by all.
Speaker 17: But I.
Speaker 3: Love it, Marke, love that, mate, love it.
Speaker 19: I didn't. I didn't realize we're playing the spring Box
Speaker 19: four weeks consecutively. That's where we've probably never done that before.
Speaker 3: We I don't think so those old old style tours
Speaker 3: when they came here and we went there, I'm almost
Speaker 3: certain the test matches weren't weak to week to week
Speaker 3: to week. No, I think this would be this would
Speaker 3: be a first in that regard.
Speaker 19: Yes, yeah, I mean Rathie has always got a plan.
Speaker 19: I mean you could see the disappointment when he when
Speaker 19: he went to Eden Park and lost that match. He
Speaker 19: was nearly in tears, which was quite great to see
Speaker 19: to be here. But yeah, I just think we're going
Speaker 19: to have to manage our players. I think that's what
Speaker 19: that was my reasoning behind the reason. And I attended
Speaker 19: the match unfortunately and Willington when the box put it
Speaker 19: on us, but you know, they put on a whole
Speaker 19: new team. We're basically playing that the team we had
Speaker 19: the week before, and yeah, I thought it's sort of
Speaker 19: like fifty sixty minutes into the game, they were just
Speaker 19: sort of done, you know. And that's when the Springboarts
Speaker 19: really opened up on them on the on the test matches.
Speaker 19: As a sports fan, I just want to see the
Speaker 19: games decided on the field. I'm just sick and tired
Speaker 19: and we're seeing it every international match now that the
Speaker 19: games getting decided by the referee and cards, and at
Speaker 19: some point world rugby has to go, you know, And
Speaker 19: it's right through just about every game right through the
Speaker 19: World Cup. I mean you could say the last World
Speaker 19: Cup final was spoiled by you know, obviously cards and
Speaker 19: it didn't didn't help New Zealand. But I think in
Speaker 19: Super Rugby that they've got the balance right. And to me,
Speaker 19: the two Australian rests were probably two of the best
Speaker 19: in the world, and the fact that they give you
Speaker 19: the best game to watch, and this stop start of
Speaker 19: fear we were going up to the TMO and then
Speaker 19: that that carding players. It's not to watch, is it.
Speaker 19: It's just not fun to watch.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It absolutely isn't. And I think we
Speaker 3: all get foul Playmark, We all understand that there have
Speaker 3: the consequences and repercussions for severe foul play. But look,
Speaker 3: this is probably a conversation for another day. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I looked at those yellow cars yesterday and only browns
Speaker 3: in particular. You know that tackle has started on the
Speaker 3: upper chest and slid up to the head. Look if
Speaker 3: the referee doesn't spot it in real time on the
Speaker 3: field with close proximity in his favor, then what are
Speaker 3: we doing?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 19: I just think it's getting to the point where that
Speaker 19: when the TMO, especially from upstairs, can interject into the game.
Speaker 19: I mean, it's a context sport. People are flying in
Speaker 19: from everywhere all the time. I mean, you could just
Speaker 19: able to pick out any any racks and find some
Speaker 19: sort of foul play there where a player's heads contacted.
Speaker 19: And I just think that, yeah, I'm just as watching
Speaker 19: international rugby, it's certainly not it's flowing as a Super
Speaker 19: Rugby competition wasn't here, And I'd actually like to see
Speaker 19: maybe an angus gardener takes the games. I mean, it's
Speaker 19: just when you see the rest sometimes think oh no,
Speaker 19: this is just going to be a stop start of
Speaker 19: fear with bloody thirty penalties really in five red calves,
Speaker 19: five yellow cards.
Speaker 3: You know, we all understand Mark, and we're talking to
Speaker 3: Sam kne earlier about concussion. You know, we all understand
Speaker 3: how important it is to protect the safety of the players.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean the constant TMO intervention. I mean,
Speaker 3: we got spoiled, didn't we in Super Rugby when they
Speaker 3: made those changes and said, look, okay, TMO, you just
Speaker 3: stay silent apart from these situations. It's like the TMO
Speaker 3: has just become a fourth part of the officiating team
Speaker 3: in real time, you know, listening even in July in
Speaker 3: those test matches, you know, listening to being on the
Speaker 3: sideline and getting the effect feed which we get, which
Speaker 3: you get if you listen to the radio commentary of
Speaker 3: the referee, but the tmo's voices as constant as referees. Anyway,
Speaker 3: as I say, maybe a conversation for another day. Eight
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Speaker 3: As we celebrate one hundred years, a chance to remember
Speaker 3: some of the great sporting memories from the last century.
Speaker 3: The last ball of the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup
Speaker 3: semi final between the black Caps and South Africa at
Speaker 3: eden Park Steam.
Speaker 2: Bowls and it swung away and that's going for.
Speaker 11: Six and that's the match.
Speaker 21: Ron Elliott takes New Zealand to the World Cup Final for.
Speaker 3: The first time ever. Yeah, what a moment that was.
Speaker 3: If you go to Eden Park you can find that
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Speaker 10: Now in nineteen ninety five, at stand up, New Zealand,
Speaker 10: Black Magic is about to sail to an unprecedented five
Speaker 10: deal with Salt and Summetry. The America's Cup is now
Speaker 10: New Zealand's Cup, and for only the second time in
Speaker 10: one hundred and forty four years, for most Illustrious and
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Speaker 3: States now PJ The America's Cup is now New Zealand's Cup.
Speaker 3: Has there been a more iconic sentence uttered in our
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Speaker 3: Right now, approaching one o'clock the Ranfurlly Shield goes on
Speaker 3: the line in Dunedin this afternoon. Otago have the log
Speaker 3: on their sideline. Canterbury are coming to take it back.
Speaker 3: Of course, it was Otago who took got off Canterbury
Speaker 3: last season. So we'll get you inside the Otago camp
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Speaker 3: Montgomery has been asked about that. I mean, what a line.
Speaker 3: I wonder if he knew when he said that the
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Speaker 3: he knew then how utterly iconic that sentence would be, PJ.
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Speaker 3: Loving hearing the old clips and stings before the news
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's one of the oldest ones Annie,
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Speaker 3: commentary he was a radio legend, and from Murray Piney.
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Speaker 3: It's a goal iconic for anyone old enough to remember. Murray.
Speaker 3: I am a little bit old to remember it, but
Speaker 3: I have heard it lots of times and it remains iconic.
Speaker 16: That comes kark.
Speaker 22: Now, he moves up, he's kicking and that's a lovelace.
Speaker 13: Listen, that's the guy.
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Speaker 3: Listen, it's a goal from Winston MacArthur. Year you speak
Speaker 3: about wonderful moments on the radio news talks, he'd be
Speaker 3: celebrating one hundred years the ninth of August nineteen twenty six,
Speaker 3: so one hundred years to the day the zib call
Speaker 3: sign was first heard after two Murray Deekers on the show,
Speaker 3: and Dame Lisa Carrington as well. But we start this
Speaker 3: hour with rugby and the ran Furley shield goes on
Speaker 3: a line on the line rather again this afternoon holders
Speaker 3: Otago welcome Canterbury to Forsyth bar Stadium. It was, of
Speaker 3: course Canterbury who Otago took the shield off last season.
Speaker 24: They're still going Otago up towards the five minute line
Speaker 24: of Canterbury.
Speaker 11: They keep it in tight. They've just got to hold
Speaker 11: onto it.
Speaker 24: Bower with a carry offloads off the ground to Umaga Jenson,
Speaker 24: Canterbury trying desperately to turn the ball over.
Speaker 11: There's the hooter back to Bella.
Speaker 13: Otago have done it.
Speaker 4: You win the red Pillage Shield for the eighth time
Speaker 4: of their history and break Canterbury hearts thirty eight thirty six.
Speaker 11: Incredible.
Speaker 3: Heah, what a day for Otago and christ Church. The
Speaker 3: same two teams meet this afternoon from just after two
Speaker 3: o'clock with the log of wood on the line. Let's
Speaker 3: bring an Otago lock slash loose forward slash utility. We'll
Speaker 3: start at actually, well can we start there. I've been
Speaker 3: trying to work out whether you're a lock of blondside
Speaker 3: flanker a number eight. Can you can you shed any
Speaker 3: light for us?
Speaker 25: Yeah?
Speaker 14: That's good question. Sometimes I'm not quite sure myself, but
Speaker 14: definitely eight and six of my preferred positions. But just
Speaker 14: the last couple of years, I've just been doing what's
Speaker 14: guest the team, I suppose, so anytime on the fields
Speaker 14: on a bad time, so.
Speaker 3: A way I look at it, love that love that
Speaker 3: you won the Shield off Canterbury at the back end
Speaker 3: of last season. Memorable day coming from fifteen points down
Speaker 3: to beat them thirty eight thirty six in christ Church.
Speaker 3: Where does that day sit in the rugby that you've played.
Speaker 14: Yeah, definitely up there. It'd be hard for that not
Speaker 14: to be the pinnacle for me in terms of my
Speaker 14: career so far. She has a pretty special night in
Speaker 14: christ Church. Yeah, we're sort of under the pumpoi but
Speaker 14: came back and had some pretty cool heads and some
Speaker 14: special moments from some special players in their team. But yeah,
Speaker 14: it's it's pretty highly there for me. It's gonna be
Speaker 14: tough to knock that off its perch.
Speaker 3: Was that your first round Fury Shield challenge?
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah it was. I've been waiting, been waiting a
Speaker 14: couple of years.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 14: Yeah, just eager to get my own challenge and pretty
Speaker 14: good strite great so far, so I'd like to keep
Speaker 14: that record in text.
Speaker 3: Bet oh bet I bet so. I mean, this is,
Speaker 3: no doubt a silly question, but how driven do you
Speaker 3: think Canterbury will be to come to your place this
Speaker 3: afternoon and take it back?
Speaker 25: Oh?
Speaker 14: Yeah, they'll be highly driven. It's to be hard, not
Speaker 14: for any for any team not to get up for
Speaker 14: a ram Frely Shield challenge. You know, they don't come
Speaker 14: very often. You won't get for a few years sometimes,
Speaker 14: but yeah, we're expecting them to come and bring everything
Speaker 14: and throw it at us and behave every right to
Speaker 14: do so.
Speaker 3: And on the other side of the coin, how determined
Speaker 3: are you all to keep the log for a bit longer?
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, we're We've had a pretty special week in
Speaker 14: tenth week and just try to trying to flip that
Speaker 14: mindset and look at it as we're trying to attack
Speaker 14: for the shield again, not defend it. But yeah, had
Speaker 14: a pretty good week and we'll be doing everything to
Speaker 14: keep it for another week.
Speaker 3: You also met them, of course in the NPC Final
Speaker 3: last year and going down thirty six twenty eight on
Speaker 3: that occasion. How much has the sting of that been
Speaker 3: used as motivation ahead of this NPC season.
Speaker 14: Yeah, like the way I've sort of scend up a year.
Speaker 14: You know, we want to go one better than that,
Speaker 14: and you know, you've got to have the confidence in
Speaker 14: your group to know you can, and yeah, definitely use
Speaker 14: as a little bit of fuel, but we sort of
Speaker 14: use that to build off and get better. You know,
Speaker 14: we can't just rely on what we did last year.
Speaker 14: We've got to obviously improve a few things and keep
Speaker 14: some things the same, but overall use as a little
Speaker 14: bit of fuel just to get better and give us
Speaker 14: more more confidence than anything.
Speaker 3: There was a superb season for Otago in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: second on the table and the regular season memorable wins
Speaker 3: over Wakata and Bay of Plenty in the quarters and
Speaker 3: the semis. I mean, it was a terrific season. What
Speaker 3: were the things that you know did go so well
Speaker 3: last season that you think will be helpful as you
Speaker 3: as you attack twenty twenty six.
Speaker 14: I think belief might be a bit of a cliche,
Speaker 14: but last year we just got more and more belief
Speaker 14: in the group, and I think right at the start
Speaker 14: of the year one of their key leaders, Gilbert Sam
Speaker 14: Gilbert sort of hit the nail on the head and say,
Speaker 14: you know, we don't want to be seen as underdogs
Speaker 14: anymore and thinking ourselves as that, like, we want to
Speaker 14: believe and though we are some of the top contenders
Speaker 14: in the camp, and we've sort of tried to use
Speaker 14: that mindset and just use that and build belief and
Speaker 14: more confidence, and a week in week heals and yeah,
Speaker 14: confidence of belief in the group does great things.
Speaker 3: I reckon, Well, you started the season last weekend on
Speaker 3: Stag Day down and in Vericago, which I guess could
Speaker 3: have been a bit of a banana skin for you.
Speaker 3: We know how up they get down there. But a
Speaker 3: comfortable forty one fourteen win. How happy was the playing
Speaker 3: group and the coaching staff with last weekend?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, really happy.
Speaker 14: Good to get a win like that under your belt.
Speaker 14: And like you said, it can be a pretty hostile
Speaker 14: environment down there sessionistag Day. So yeah, we're starting to
Speaker 14: come out with a pretty yeah, pretty confident one and
Speaker 14: yeah it does a bit for the group, but they
Speaker 14: all want us going through the camp and just happy
Speaker 14: to get a come back from State hahioan up the
Speaker 14: road with a good win like that.
Speaker 3: I bet. I just want to ask you about playing
Speaker 3: alongside Fabian Holland obviously have done so in an Otago
Speaker 3: shirt and in a Highlander shirt. Not this season in
Speaker 3: Super Rugby of course with the injury. But what's it
Speaker 3: been like playing alongside him and you know, linking up
Speaker 3: for them in the second role on occasion, but just
Speaker 3: being in the same Ford pack as him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's been great.
Speaker 14: Fabian's a great man. I've been lucky enough to play
Speaker 14: quite a bit of age group stuff alongside Shades, growing
Speaker 14: up through Lander's twenties and things like that. But yeah,
Speaker 14: he's been great having the group for a bit. He's
Speaker 14: obviously a leader within the group and helping her their
Speaker 14: set peace and we're obviously stoked to see him back.
Speaker 14: And they had all blacks environments and rather see him
Speaker 14: do or have another great year in the black jersey.
Speaker 3: Did you sort of realize when you first started playing
Speaker 3: with him that you know he was it was a
Speaker 3: pretty decent player.
Speaker 14: Yeah. I remember back at high school that St Andrew's
Speaker 14: here at Christler's Boys. I remember seeing this big tall
Speaker 14: I thought he was German at the time lot but
Speaker 14: turned down he was a big Dutch fellow. And yeah,
Speaker 14: he could tell you something special about him for a
Speaker 14: different gravy and it's an awesome see him kick on
Speaker 14: and it's no surprises how driven he is.
Speaker 3: Where he's got to wonderful stuff. Well for you guys
Speaker 3: this afternoon, it is the log of wood on the
Speaker 3: sideline there at Forsyth Barer's. Canterbury come and try and
Speaker 3: take it off. You're all the best, will hope, but
Speaker 3: it stays with you guys for a bit longer. Appreciate
Speaker 3: you taking the time for a chat.
Speaker 14: Yeah, awesome, Thank you, Pinie, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: No, thank you for joining us. Well, all the best
Speaker 3: of this afternoon will start up. He's playing Lock this afternoon,
Speaker 3: but as you heard him say, six' eight his preferred,
Speaker 3: position but he's happy. Anywhere five past. Two that game
Speaker 3: kicks off In. Dunedin If otago were to defend the shield,
Speaker 3: successfully the next chance for somebody to take it off
Speaker 3: them would Be wellington in a couple of. Weeks they
Speaker 3: Play otago On, sunday the twenty third Of august. Year
Speaker 3: that's two weeks. Today If canterbury were to win at this,
Speaker 3: afternoon Then bay Of plenty have a crack at it
Speaker 3: Next saturday. Afternoon those two meet and what at the
Speaker 3: moment is just AN mpc game but If canterbury take
Speaker 3: the shield, home then it'll be Of. Bay it'll Be
Speaker 3: bay of. Plenty having a crack at them this, Afternoon maust,
Speaker 3: says in, fact must have sent me four texts all the.
Speaker 3: SAME i hope you're going to talk about The magpies.
Speaker 3: Today i'm sure Of wellington we're, winning you'd be talking about,
Speaker 3: them Must that's a little bit. Unfair but, Look i've
Speaker 3: been very impressed with The. Magpies very. Impressed aleck On texas, Day,
Speaker 3: poney alick. Hep how good are Those Hawks Bay magpies
Speaker 3: another fifty piece this weekend Against, tasman fifty On wellington last.
Speaker 3: Weekend only two, games but, jeez now looking the, goods Says.
Speaker 3: Alec up The. Magpies also looking forward to your chat
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning with sav and The husk about the mike's
Speaker 3: going to be. Fizzing he will, Be, yeah commentary box
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning will be will be chockers with all sorts of.
Speaker 3: Chat another texture. Head this is just. Random i'm just
Speaker 3: sort of ticking these off as we. GO i like
Speaker 3: to try and answer the questions that come through IF i. Can,
Speaker 3: jase do you know When Shannon frazzel is due to
Speaker 3: be eligible for The All. Blacks Ask, RICHARD i feel
Speaker 3: like he would complete our Loose. Fords, well he's available,
Speaker 3: now isn't. He jenniferzel's played For, tessman hasn't? He he's
Speaker 3: PLAYED MPC, yep so he is eligible, Now. Richard If
Speaker 3: Dave rennie is of the mind he could Pick Shannon
Speaker 3: frazel now if there's an injury In South. Africa if
Speaker 3: the Loose ford gets, Injured jenniferzell could be your, man
Speaker 3: certainly when they get back for The Bledisloe cup matches
Speaker 3: end of yet. Tour, yeah So jenniferzel is back in
Speaker 3: the mix. Now somebody also pointed out to me that
Speaker 3: If Billy proctor can't continue on this, tour then would
Speaker 3: that open the door For Richie. MOONGER i know they
Speaker 3: play different. Positions billy practice am midfield. Back Richie wonger
Speaker 3: is a first. Five Dave rennie said that he would
Speaker 3: you know that he would Consider Richie waronger in a
Speaker 3: like for like. Situation he too has played THE mpc,
Speaker 3: now so he is. Available. YEAH i don't. KNOW i
Speaker 3: feel as though they just bring another midfield back over
Speaker 3: if they if they Lost Billy. Procter but it's an interesting,
Speaker 3: point an interesting. Point our NUMBERS r eight hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty anything you want to bring up this
Speaker 3: afternoon or the best to otago this afternoon And. Canterbury of,
Speaker 3: COURSE i don't think we should be Anti. Canterbury we're
Speaker 3: not Anti. Canterbury all the best for a fantastic shield
Speaker 3: match this, afternoon one. Eighteen we'll take a break when
Speaker 3: we come, back actually before we, go before we. Go
Speaker 3: another text thro here as iconic as pj's ninety Five
Speaker 3: America's cup commentary.
Speaker 25: Was and it.
Speaker 3: Was what About Harold abraham's commentary Of Jack lovelock winning
Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred meters at the nineteen thirty Six olympics In. Berlin, well, Fortunately,
Speaker 3: TONY i have that. Prepared love Love lock just running.
Speaker 22: Perfectly, now come, On, jack three hundred meters to, go love,
Speaker 22: luckly three hundred meters to, go love.
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Speaker 22: No I've jack a hundred.
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Speaker 22: got you win one, hooray love luck finding the Tax
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Speaker 3: Sir, yeah come, On. Jeck Harold abraham is a good
Speaker 3: friend Of Jack lovelock of, course and having the chance
Speaker 3: to call him winning that gold medal in nineteen thirty,
Speaker 3: six ninety years, ago goodness me ninety years. Ago one
Speaker 3: twenty back of a second Weekend Sport.
Speaker 1: Roots to the Grand Stand weekends fort With Jason vine
Speaker 1: and The AUDI q Seven Dynamic Black runout edition from one.
Speaker 2: Eight Hundred NEWS Talksb.
Speaker 3: News TALKS, Heb i've had a bunch of people text. Me,
Speaker 3: Yeah shannifrazel blow a hammy before the first game last, Week,
Speaker 3: Seys david And nelson hasn't taken the field. Yet another text, here,
Speaker 3: Yeah jennifrazel hasn't yet. Played this is a good one
Speaker 3: though hasn't yet played For. TASMANIA a love order Correct
Speaker 3: frazell's and it hasn't yet played For. Tasmania and then
Speaker 3: the second text came. Through WHAT i meant Was tasman,
Speaker 3: Okay Well jennifrazel look speedy. RECOVERY i hope he's back. Soon.
Speaker 3: Hamstring was, THAT i mean depends on that the seriousness of,
Speaker 3: it doesn't. It hopefully he'll be back soon For tasman
Speaker 3: Or tasmania and be eligible for The All. Blacks Arthur High, Hi,
Speaker 3: Jason i've got something.
Speaker 26: Interesting for the last hundred, YEARS i don't think it's
Speaker 26: actually ever happened In New. Zealand this joker that played
Speaker 26: Against charles nineteen seventy. One he was on the wing
Speaker 26: For taranaki and he was only. Seventeen his name Was
Speaker 26: Murray kid and he played For. Nipple he's come From
Speaker 26: New Plymouth Boys High school and his first game was
Speaker 26: against The British. Earl he's on the wing AND i
Speaker 26: don't think there's ever been a seventeen year old against.
Speaker 26: International AND i was there and every time he Tackled
Speaker 26: joker duck and the crowd would row at. Him you
Speaker 26: know how excited they were to see this young, kid you,
Speaker 26: know bowl a tackle As Joko duckham here was marking
Speaker 26: on the. WING i don't think there's been any younger
Speaker 26: person that's ever gone against. International when He's hireland only.
Speaker 3: Seventeen what a moment for, HIM i what a moment
Speaker 3: seventeen to play against an international, team but also to
Speaker 3: have the crowd on your side like. That so he
Speaker 3: must have been he must have held ten feet tall out, There.
Speaker 26: Arthur, yeah that's. Right, Yeah, yeah he came down from
Speaker 26: King country and played For. Taranaki, YEAH i.
Speaker 16: Think it was.
Speaker 11: That that's, Yeah Murray.
Speaker 3: Kidd did you say his name Was Murray? Yathur?
Speaker 26: No, no, sorry carry it certainly had the right certain
Speaker 26: name for his only.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Exactly, Arthur well seid, mate thanks for calling. In,
Speaker 3: yeah what a terrific. Memory murray, kid seventeen years old
Speaker 3: playing against The. Lions how? Good how? Good one twenty
Speaker 3: Five National Basketball league supremacy goes on the line this.
Speaker 3: Afternoon it's the defending Champion Wellington.
Speaker 27: Saints the fourth seed has dominated the First The saints
Speaker 27: will have an opportunity to go back to. Back the
Speaker 27: reigning champions storm through to The Grand final one and
Speaker 27: twelve and sixty.
Speaker 3: Nine, yeah they'll take on The Southland sharks and The Southland.
Speaker 2: Sharks we'll host the.
Speaker 24: Susand Bil Grand final in twenty twenty six and The
Speaker 24: sharks come away eighty four to seventy four.
Speaker 3: Winners it is a repeat of last Year's Grand, final
Speaker 3: this time for the first. Time it's an in The,
Speaker 3: cargo our Own Nick buley is part Of Sky Sports
Speaker 3: Cover you joins. Us now let's start with where you, Are,
Speaker 3: nick In, vericargol The Southland sharks playing their first ever
Speaker 3: Home Grand. Final how significant could that home court advantage?
Speaker 3: Be this, AFTERNOON, o good, Afternoon.
Speaker 24: Piney great to be with you as a new sort'sb
Speaker 24: celebrates one hundred.
Speaker 11: Years, LOOK i think it is.
Speaker 24: Significant these two, teams of, course met each other twice
Speaker 24: in the regular, season once in a The, cargo once
Speaker 24: at The Tearesby arena In, wellington The sharks one on
Speaker 24: home court that was way back In, may The Wellington
Speaker 24: saints one on home court just a couple of weeks.
Speaker 24: Ago but not only the home, advantage it's the first,
Speaker 24: time my, understanding the first time in the seventeen year
Speaker 24: history of The Southland sharks that they have sold Out Ilt,
Speaker 24: Stadium southland three, thousand seven hundred and seventy tickets to be.
Speaker 11: Exact so that place is going to be absolutely.
Speaker 24: Humming i've been lucky to be there a couple of
Speaker 24: times over my few years involved with The National Basketball.
Speaker 24: League and, yeah there's a few places around the country
Speaker 24: that have a fantastic home atmosphere and get behind their,
Speaker 24: team and South and would certainly be right up there
Speaker 24: in terms of the way they support not only The,
Speaker 24: sharks but The Southern steel and The Southland. Stag SO
Speaker 24: i think it could, be you, know something that will
Speaker 24: play into the advantage of The, sharks but that alone
Speaker 24: isn't going to get it.
Speaker 3: Done all, right, well fantastic they have such a big
Speaker 3: crowd in. Coming how much can we read into what
Speaker 3: happened between these two teams in the final last year
Speaker 3: or even during the regular season this. Year is any
Speaker 3: of that important or do we have a clean slate?
Speaker 3: TODAY i think the.
Speaker 24: Most recent Game, pinty given it was only a couple
Speaker 24: of weeks, ago as a real significant tail tale as
Speaker 24: to what could transpire this. Afternoon of, course South and
Speaker 24: would not want it to go that. Way they lost
Speaker 24: one hundred and nineteen to ninety. Four The Wellington saints
Speaker 24: have the best offense in the. League they averaged just
Speaker 24: to tick over one hundred points the, game and they
Speaker 24: were absolutely humming on that. Occasion and they've found form
Speaker 24: at the best possible. Time let's not forget just a
Speaker 24: week ago they went up To auckland and absolutely ran
Speaker 24: through the top seed At auckland Till atara one hundred
Speaker 24: and twelve to sixty, Nine so that that's a potential
Speaker 24: sign as to what could happen this.
Speaker 11: Afternoon and saying.
Speaker 24: That though you know on that day everything went right For,
Speaker 24: wellington you had seventeen made three. Pointers for The, saints
Speaker 24: you Had Elijah, pepper the LEAGUE, mvp scoring twenty nine,
Speaker 24: points but you also had that support cast and around
Speaker 24: him with A Keitcher lea scoring twenty six, Points Carlin
Speaker 24: davison almost a triple, double so that that could. Happen
Speaker 24: but at the same time Too. SOUTHLAND i was there
Speaker 24: in Christ church seven days. Ago it was a real
Speaker 24: sort of playoff grind type of the game as opposed
Speaker 24: to know everything flowing, offensively but they found a way
Speaker 24: and perhaps you know that that's a sign. Too in finals,
Speaker 24: games your defense is just as important as your offense
Speaker 24: and limiting the opposition's. Opportunities they held The Canterbury rams
Speaker 24: to seventy four. Points SO i don't think last year's
Speaker 24: final matters from a form perspective because they are quite different,
Speaker 24: teams but it Certainly lingers and stings still.
Speaker 11: For The Southland. Sharks not often you see pinety.
Speaker 24: Import players From america come, Back Caleb asbrey And Kiln.
Speaker 24: Boone they came back after last year's disappointment to right
Speaker 24: a few wrongs here. Today and the coach as, Well
Speaker 24: Jonathan yeim in his second year in the. League you,
Speaker 24: know he's sort of spoken publicly about the minutes after
Speaker 24: losing The Grand final last year and how basically a
Speaker 24: lot of them in the group would just, say, right
Speaker 24: let's run it back next year and go one.
Speaker 11: Better they get that opportunity this.
Speaker 3: Afternoon, Absolutely redemption absolutely is on the menu For southland this.
Speaker 3: Afternoon in order to get, it they need to Stop
Speaker 3: Elijah pepper SEASON, mvp scoring it close to twenty nine
Speaker 3: points a. Game can one to actually stop? Him or
Speaker 3: is it more about trying to make his life as
Speaker 3: difficult as possible?
Speaker 11: Today, YEAH i think the, Latter, PINEY i.
Speaker 24: Think you, know you look over the course of the,
Speaker 24: LEAGUE i think only the last once in the last nineteen,
Speaker 24: games which is pretty much the bulk of the, season
Speaker 24: Has Elijah pepper not scored.
Speaker 11: Twenty points in his last seven. Games he's scored at
Speaker 11: least twenty.
Speaker 24: Seven, interestingly, though for, me the last When southland Beat
Speaker 24: wellington in the regular, Season Elijah pepper.
Speaker 11: Scored forty three points and that was still in a.
Speaker 24: Loss so for, me that sort of speaks To, Look
Speaker 24: Elijah pepper is going to get his.
Speaker 11: Shots as he says the LEAGUE. Mvp he is an
Speaker 11: absolute scoring. Machine he can get to the basket and
Speaker 11: kill you in the mid, range and he's an elite
Speaker 11: three point shooter as.
Speaker 24: Well it's more about containing and limiting the support cast
Speaker 24: for south and Forcing Elijah pepper into some of the
Speaker 24: shots that he doesn't like as.
Speaker 11: Much that feels like the strategy for, me because if
Speaker 11: you try and.
Speaker 24: Double Team Elijah, pepper ultimately you're going to leave someone else.
Speaker 24: Open if you get a ketcher there starting to hit
Speaker 24: his shots At Dante agra mccarl And, davis and then
Speaker 24: things become a lot harder for The Southern.
Speaker 3: Sharks all, right let's go to The sharks, then and
Speaker 3: you land naturally on their point Guard Ryland jones as
Speaker 3: a potentially key part of their. Team terrific season FAN.
Speaker 3: Mvp how integral and how crucial might he be this?
Speaker 11: Afternoon, YEAH i really Like Ryland jones first year in the.
Speaker 24: League as you, say traditional point. Guard he doesn't have
Speaker 24: to go above and beyond to facilitate the. Offense he
Speaker 24: feels like a little bit of a glue, guy but
Speaker 24: he's just always there and doing something and making a positive.
Speaker 24: Contribution seven is fifteen points a, game even six. Rebounds
Speaker 24: it just seems to be in the right place at
Speaker 24: the right time to then allow The sharks to get
Speaker 24: out and run on. Transition so between He Caleb, asbury
Speaker 24: who as a, mention was here last, year have a
Speaker 24: real chip on his.
Speaker 11: Shoulder he didn't make The All star.
Speaker 24: Five piney and he's let everyone know already on social
Speaker 24: media and some of The Sky sport commentary team And
Speaker 24: Sam turmmans as, Well Defensive player of The. Year just
Speaker 24: a focal, point the yankeor down there in the. Interior so,
Speaker 24: look The Southern shows has got a lot of key.
Speaker 24: Pieces but if someone Like Ryland jones in particular can support,
Speaker 24: You Caleb asbury's You Sam timmons from a scoring perspective
Speaker 24: as much as a facilitation and really is going to
Speaker 24: be the sum of all parts today For. Southland, look
Speaker 24: they've got guys who can score certainly great defensive unit as.
Speaker 24: Well but if everyone can can buy and get a
Speaker 24: little bit extraduce out of The orange from, everyone then
Speaker 24: that'll go a long way to giving them the outcome
Speaker 24: they so desperately.
Speaker 3: Crave, well you've mentioned a lot of players from the
Speaker 3: starting fives from both. Sides who has the deeper, Bench.
Speaker 11: Oh that's a great.
Speaker 24: Question i'd stay Probably, wellington although there are question mark
Speaker 24: Around Hiram. Harris he's currently listed as. Questionable he rolled
Speaker 24: his ankle in that semi final win over The Auckland.
Speaker 24: Tuittara of, course as you, Know Pioneers Grand FINAL mvp
Speaker 24: in this very matchup last year twenty, points fourteen.
Speaker 11: Rebounds he's the, heartbeat all Hustle Hiram.
Speaker 24: Harris if he's, out then Coach Aaron young is going
Speaker 24: to have to go deeper down his. Bench but they've
Speaker 24: got guys Like Jordan hunt who come off the bench
Speaker 24: who can certainly have an. Impact Sam gold as another
Speaker 24: player for The Southland, SHARKS i really like that they
Speaker 24: Have Tobias, cameron son of the Great Pido cameron off
Speaker 24: their bench and he's just a real good glue. Guy
Speaker 24: he'll Make he'll probably come on and Defend Elijah pepper
Speaker 24: and try and make his life as difficult as.
Speaker 11: Possible but that.
Speaker 24: Both these, teams by the point you get in this
Speaker 24: season where It's Grand, Final, piney they're rarely running a
Speaker 24: six or seven man rotation at.
Speaker 11: Best they used to. That i'd be surprised to see
Speaker 11: our super young.
Speaker 24: Players but who, knows it might be an opportunity for
Speaker 24: An Aubrey hunger out Of wellington to make a hero
Speaker 24: or a name of himself with a couple of big
Speaker 24: plays off the.
Speaker 3: Bench, well speaking of big, plays big basketball games in,
Speaker 3: fact any basketball, game but big ones in, particular can
Speaker 3: change quickly in a couple of, possessions a big, three a,
Speaker 3: turnover a run of six or eight. Points which of
Speaker 3: these two teams do you think has the greater capacity
Speaker 3: to produce that decisive.
Speaker 24: Run, oh that's a beautiful thing about basketballs And, piney
Speaker 24: you never quite know until the. Day compared to, yeah
Speaker 24: a rugby game or, football it feels like you can
Speaker 24: just change in a made, shot defensive.
Speaker 11: PLAY i look At Wellington saints.
Speaker 24: Though and the, way particularly in the last three or four,
Speaker 24: weeks have won their last five and by significant margins as.
Speaker 24: Well AND i even just cast my mind, back you,
Speaker 24: know the semi final last, week it was even reasonably
Speaker 24: close sort of first, quarter they started to push in the,
Speaker 24: second and then they just absolutely put their foot down
Speaker 24: in the third and saying that Those southland you, know
Speaker 24: they jumped out to a double digit lead over The
Speaker 24: Canterbury rams last. Week canterbury climbed all their way back,
Speaker 24: in you, know came back from seventeen.
Speaker 11: Down to tie things up at the end of the third.
Speaker 24: Quarter But Caleb asbry back to back threes to open
Speaker 24: the fourth and that Set southland on its. Way so,
Speaker 24: look both of these, teams that's what makes this Afternoon's
Speaker 24: Grand finals so. GOOD i reckon it's a bit of
Speaker 24: a marketer's, dream of, course because you've got that redemption
Speaker 24: Story Grand final repeater last. Year but you've got so
Speaker 24: much elite production in these both these two. TEAMS i
Speaker 24: just hope it lives up to its billing because this.
Speaker 11: Could ebb and. Flow as we saw last.
Speaker 24: Year it wasn't really until the last heck thirty forty
Speaker 24: seconds Where wellington could perhaps you know that they were
Speaker 24: going to be lifting a banner for a thirteenth, time all.
Speaker 3: Right just before you go just up the road in
Speaker 3: the not to just in, Future canterbury are going to
Speaker 3: try and wrestle The Ranfully shell back From. Otarga, now
Speaker 3: of course you cover all forms Of canterbury, sport you
Speaker 3: reckon that when you get back to Christ it whenever that,
Speaker 3: is the shield will be there as.
Speaker 24: Well oh, here, LOOK i think that that's a game
Speaker 24: that has significant potential to go right the distance as.
Speaker 11: Well i've really liked What otago particularly did last.
Speaker 24: YEAR i was fortunate enough to call The Ranville shield
Speaker 24: win they had Over canterbury last. Year and in speaking
Speaker 24: of redemption the grand final between the two, teams When
Speaker 24: canterbury Beat otaga to win THE Npc trophy so early
Speaker 24: in the season it was quite.
Speaker 11: Hard to get a real read On.
Speaker 24: Otaga they were actually hearing In maccargo last Week stag
Speaker 24: they beat Beat southland quite. Comfortably they don't Have Dylan
Speaker 24: pledge at the moment is their real spark, plug but
Speaker 24: Still Lucas casey And Christian Leo william and THERE i
Speaker 24: was actually speaking To otago Coach Mark brown because funnily
Speaker 24: enough he's my wife's Boss piney and in another job
Speaker 24: that is my wife doesn't work for The Otago, union,
Speaker 24: okay BUT i was having to reach out to him
Speaker 24: earlier in the week and he, said we're not out
Speaker 24: to defend the Ran Philly. Shield we want to win
Speaker 24: it again and our style is, attack, attack attack under
Speaker 24: the roof At Forsyth.
Speaker 11: BAR i think they'll have a real, go so too
Speaker 11: Will canterbury.
Speaker 24: THOUGH i Mean richie men are at ten and The
Speaker 24: Evergreen johnny McNichol at full.
Speaker 11: Back that they've got a lot of potential as.
Speaker 24: Well So i'll be keeping half an eye on how
Speaker 24: things go up, there, owd that's for, sure all.
Speaker 3: Right so just after two o'clock and duneed and It's
Speaker 3: targo Against canterbury for the Ram Philly shield three o'clock this.
Speaker 3: Afternoon and in The cargo SELLS Nbl Grand Final Southland
Speaker 3: Sharks Wellington. Saints who you Got.
Speaker 11: I'll put on the cout, Here, Piney i'll Go. Sharks
Speaker 11: regardless of.
Speaker 3: That it's been good to talk to you and we
Speaker 3: hopefully will get the opportunity to do that again.
Speaker 24: Soon cheer's, MATE i love. IT i appreciate you you
Speaker 24: taking the time to get basketball on the. Airwaves you're
Speaker 24: a big supporter of the, sports so really appreciate.
Speaker 3: It now good, Man. Nick thanks, Indeed nick biorly part
Speaker 3: Of Sky sports coverage of The National Basketball League final
Speaker 3: this afternoon just after. Three that game kicks off at
Speaker 3: what sounds like it'll be a jam packed, Stadium, southland
Speaker 3: The Southland sharks against The Wellington saints for the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty Six National Basketball league. Title coming up twenty two to.
Speaker 3: Two when we come, back we go To. France that's
Speaker 3: Where james mccony is as always in A Sunday he'll
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Speaker 3: Week how are you? Mate?
Speaker 25: Ah bon sois, bonjour monsieur jesson.
Speaker 11: Bean i'm very.
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Speaker 3: Wonderful, well it's great to have you beaming. In hopefully
Speaker 3: you've been keeping an eye on bits and pieces Of
Speaker 3: New zealand. Sport did you manage to catch The All
Speaker 3: blacks against The, stormers for? EXAMPLE i?
Speaker 25: DID i saw. It it was you, know chalk it.
Speaker 28: Up it's a start and look there with debuts as.
Speaker 28: Well good to See Josh jacob get. ON i think
Speaker 28: that you, Know Antonin seigner And Fabian holland did pretty.
Speaker 28: Well Sam darry keeps on improving his, stocks And Josh
Speaker 28: morby some touches at, fullback which is in you, know
Speaker 28: you got to try as, well which is great to,
Speaker 28: see but, look it Wasn't it wasn't an outstanding, game
Speaker 28: but there were reasons for. That AND i do have
Speaker 28: concerns about rugby at the, moment.
Speaker 3: Do, you BECAUSE i was going to ask you about.
Speaker 3: That i'm not sure whether you Caught Argentina South africa
Speaker 3: because that was a bit of a tough watch as.
Speaker 28: Well, yes and this is the whole thing with rugby is,
Speaker 28: that you, KNOW i think rugby is suffering from an identity.
Speaker 25: Crisis it doesn't know what it.
Speaker 28: Is you, know when we were growing, up rugby was
Speaker 28: the game they played in heaven And i'm not sure
Speaker 28: How god Or Saint peter would explain the rucking back,
Speaker 28: then the fist fights and the scrotum, grabbing but, hey
Speaker 28: it was beloved and it had a. Brand and also
Speaker 28: nations Like New zealand And france Played champagne, rugby you,
Speaker 28: know and that was that was sort of part of
Speaker 28: it as, well just expressing. Yourself and now it's a
Speaker 28: game of, stoppages video ref interferences and box cacks and
Speaker 28: they still haven't sorted out scrummery sets in my, opinion
Speaker 28: and most what would you call it neutrals or casuals
Speaker 28: are still confused by the.
Speaker 3: Game, yeah AND i guess that is one of the big,
Speaker 3: challenges isn't it? FAKE i, mean rugby will always have
Speaker 3: its die hard, fans particularly In New. Zealand you, know
Speaker 3: we grew up watching the. Game i'm going to watch
Speaker 3: The All blacks every single time they. Play i'll tolerate
Speaker 3: all that. Stuff i'll watch rugby BECAUSE i love. Rugby
Speaker 3: but your discretionary, fan as you, say your casual, observer
Speaker 3: will take one look at the first half of The
Speaker 3: All Black, stormers which actually took fifty one minutes to,
Speaker 3: complete and so what's going on?
Speaker 11: Here?
Speaker 28: Yeah put it this, way, LIKE i love rugby as,
Speaker 28: well so don't get me, Wrong i'm all inn. Really
Speaker 28: but in the same time that rugby has steadily gotten
Speaker 28: harder to, watch rugby league has improved out of. Sight you,
Speaker 28: know they've outlawed high contact as. Well they don't tolerate
Speaker 28: slowing the ball down and the six again rule has
Speaker 28: pretty much made monster forwards Like nelson Us off or
Speaker 28: so and more.
Speaker 25: Extinct you. Know so they're ruthless in.
Speaker 28: Terms of trying to improve the game for everyone to,
Speaker 28: watch whereas rugby hasn't been able to do anything. MEANINGFUL
Speaker 28: i don't think to change the, game and partly that's
Speaker 28: politics and world. Rugby we don't need to get into.
Speaker 28: That but you know the issue is that one in
Speaker 28: five rugby games is incredible and it gives all of
Speaker 28: us hope because everyone, goes, wow did you see that?
Speaker 28: Game and then we're, back you, Know so that's that's
Speaker 28: all it's got in its. Favor but WHAT i hope
Speaker 28: is that you, know the marketing departments are working over,
Speaker 28: time aren't they trying to sell the game with the
Speaker 28: greatest rivalry and all that sort of, Stuff and we're
Speaker 28: all going to watch.
Speaker 25: It i'm going to be glued to the, telly can't
Speaker 25: wait to see what.
Speaker 28: Happens BUT i just, hope and, LOOK i Think David
Speaker 28: reni's showing signs of that is that we see the
Speaker 28: ball in hand, more that we actually see teams trying
Speaker 28: to show what they can, do and that those have
Speaker 28: sort of been the indications from. This Dave renni coached All.
Speaker 3: Blacks you're really interesting to hear him say that as,
Speaker 3: well because most coaches just try to win rugby matches
Speaker 3: one way or the. Other in any fashion that is
Speaker 3: available to. Them, Yeah Dave renny very early on. Didn't he, said,
Speaker 3: look we know that that rugby's in a battle for,
Speaker 3: eyeballs and we need to play our, part WHICH i
Speaker 3: think is actually a really, progressive you, know outlook for
Speaker 3: a guy who lives and dies by whether his team
Speaker 3: wins or.
Speaker 28: Not, Yeah and it's kind of interesting BECAUSE i looked
Speaker 28: at that game and it was really in the balance
Speaker 28: and even you, know When Peter arco through that nice
Speaker 28: off load To Leroy, CARTER i mean could have been
Speaker 28: called back being.
Speaker 25: Forward it was definitely line ball And.
Speaker 28: Carter had to beat three, players but The All blacks
Speaker 28: were really in a tussle up until. Then you, know
Speaker 28: that fat call had gone the other, way then, hey
Speaker 28: it could have just been one of the great upsets
Speaker 28: that we're talking about. Now but, hey you, know the
Speaker 28: last quarter against those, teams you can see some class
Speaker 28: comes through at.
Speaker 25: Least BUT i, WAS i was a little bit.
Speaker 28: Concerned AND i think we've talked about DU persecti, ME
Speaker 28: i don't have to go on about, it BUT i
Speaker 28: saw him play so well at twelve with that setting
Speaker 28: up that try Against, auckland just, thinking you, know sometimes
Speaker 28: rugby isn't necessarily about, saying, hey we want the biggest
Speaker 28: player or the player who's showing up best in. Stats
Speaker 28: it is a game when it comes down to, it you,
Speaker 28: know and there's lots of players who actually can impact
Speaker 28: the game just because they're the best at that specific
Speaker 28: moment if you, like you, know what's put in front of,
Speaker 28: them they can rise to the. Occasion and that's WHERE
Speaker 28: i want to see from this what would you call
Speaker 28: it midwek team from The All blacks is who are
Speaker 28: the players that are going to rise to the?
Speaker 25: Occasion, yeah me? Too me.
Speaker 3: Too can ask About Tim payne a couple of months,
Speaker 3: ago if you'd said To Tim, payne you're going to
Speaker 3: be playing football In, paraguay coming off the bench on
Speaker 3: your debut and scoring an absolute, banger he would have, said,
Speaker 3: No Now i'm going to be in pre season With Wellington.
Speaker 3: Phoenix isn't this an incredible tale that because of one
Speaker 3: post on social media buy a bloke In South america
Speaker 3: with a you, know quite a few, followers That Tim
Speaker 3: payne's life arc has changed like.
Speaker 13: THAT i.
Speaker 28: Know it's it's even bigger than the. Movie if you
Speaker 28: make if this was a. Movie people wouldn't even believe.
Speaker 28: It let's, say oh, no it's just so far, fetched it's.
Speaker 28: Crazy so So Tim pain this, goal just to put it,
Speaker 28: mildly like you, said it's a, banger it's a. Worldie
Speaker 28: he started the movement as well in his own half
Speaker 28: and set the winger. Free the winger squares it outside the.
Speaker 28: Area Tim payin hits it first, time curling into the
Speaker 28: top corner or near the top, corner away from the.
Speaker 28: Keeper so first time SHOTS i watched in most of
Speaker 28: The World, CUP i don't THINK i saw a decent
Speaker 28: first time shot as good As Tim pain's in the
Speaker 28: Entire World.
Speaker 25: Cup you know What i'm talking, About piney no, one.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 25: One most people who can have control.
Speaker 28: Of the ball and they banging it in you know
Speaker 28: where the spiders, live top. Bins but and of course
Speaker 28: there were some great goals Carbo verdi is It sydney
Speaker 28: Cabral you know there's some, beauties absolute. Beauties but That
Speaker 28: timpain goal was crazy so, good AND i just wonder
Speaker 28: whether did the always get it?
Speaker 25: Right did we with someone Like Tim.
Speaker 28: Payne we sort of, tried and we wanted them to
Speaker 28: sort of calm down and, say, look just do your,
Speaker 28: job blah blah, Blah but maybe we should have done
Speaker 28: the exact opposite and, Said Tim, payin you're you, know
Speaker 28: you've got six million, followers must feel good you take
Speaker 28: the free.
Speaker 11: Kicks yes you, know, yes you, know like just you
Speaker 11: go on marauding runs.
Speaker 28: Up front because you the world wants to see, you
Speaker 28: and maybe you just just because you've got that kind
Speaker 28: of confidence that only six million followers can give. You
Speaker 28: that just set them. Free whereas we did this Classic kiwi,
Speaker 28: thing didn't We, na he's just going to focus on as,
Speaker 28: football don't worry about.
Speaker 11: Him, wrong, wrong so.
Speaker 3: True BUT i keep coming back to, it you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i keep coming back to The argentine influencer who was
Speaker 3: just trying to find the least fallow person at The
Speaker 3: World cup and he just landed On. Timpaine it was complete,
Speaker 3: luck complete good, fortune and it has set off this
Speaker 3: chain of events which has led to something that none of,
Speaker 3: us Particularly, timpaine could possibly have. IMAGINED a couple of months,
Speaker 3: Ago no.
Speaker 25: And you AND i were.
Speaker 28: Talking we were, saying look the way only way to
Speaker 28: maximize us because that guy was From. Argentina most of
Speaker 28: his followers are From Latin america and they Were spanish,
Speaker 28: speaking and even the brains like REMEMBER Kfc brazil and
Speaker 28: all those sort of sliding dunks And Donuts argentina or,
Speaker 28: whatever you, know like big brands but based in those,
Speaker 28: countries just sliding into his dms and onto his. Comments
Speaker 28: so you're not going to reach them by playing for
Speaker 28: The phoenix or even going to the you, KNOW mls
Speaker 28: or whatever you want to do In.
Speaker 25: America you have to go To South.
Speaker 28: America so we went To, paraguay WHICH i thought was
Speaker 28: a bit of a dodgy landing spot BECAUSE i, thought.
Speaker 25: Oh paraguay really beve it doesn't. Matter he's there doing.
Speaker 11: It it's visible and everyone's seeing what he can.
Speaker 25: Do which is the best goal of his entire.
Speaker 3: Career, yeah amazing, Stuff amazing stuff From Tim. Payne, WELL
Speaker 3: i think that's it messy as they, say and you're
Speaker 3: part of the world and Are revoir.
Speaker 28: Did the am pony which is you're welcome was nothing at.
Speaker 28: All and by the, WAY i did catch up With
Speaker 28: mike clamp And Nigel. Gainey if Any Wellington rugby fans
Speaker 28: And Sean spring as, well that's a bit of a deep.
Speaker 25: Cut if you're A wellington rugby.
Speaker 28: Fan and they all live in Bear ritz and they
Speaker 28: all catch up and there's a good bunch of kiwi's
Speaker 28: there and it was wonderful to see.
Speaker 25: Them Mike clamp not bad on the guitar at.
Speaker 28: All so you, know the sad thing is is that
Speaker 28: the only LYRICS i knew all from start to finish
Speaker 28: With George michael's. Songs so please don't judge. Me and
Speaker 28: you know that's All i'll. Say maybe you could play
Speaker 28: us out with a bit of.
Speaker 25: Faith DOES i.
Speaker 13: Gotta have the.
Speaker 1: Biggest names and sport are Here Weekend sport With Jason,
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Speaker 3: Zb coming up five to. Two we're, celebrating of, course
Speaker 3: one hundred years of Z b AS zib went to
Speaker 3: wear for the first time on this, Day august the,
Speaker 3: ninth nineteen twenty. Six there have been so many great
Speaker 3: moments down the. Years Michael campbell won THE Us Golf
Speaker 3: open in two thousand and. Five the morning after the
Speaker 3: late Great Paul holmes spoke to him ON Zb.
Speaker 9: Breakfast, Michael, Michael.
Speaker 29: I'll tell you what shower this morning as A Us open.
Speaker 9: Champion that's, RIGHT i bet it. Was Congratulations michael.
Speaker 29: Thanks it's been the incredible last what folve hours or
Speaker 29: so or seventeen hours haven't been crowned as THE Us open.
Speaker 29: Champion it's been, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: UNBELIEVABLE i know that the.
Speaker 29: Response back home has been it's been really huge as,
Speaker 29: well And i'm looking forward to coming home and ensuring
Speaker 29: my success was bought the people back over there so.
Speaker 9: Well response back, here response back here has just. BEEN i,
Speaker 9: mean the country's gone. Bamie.
Speaker 30: MICHAEL i, know and we all watched, it and you,
Speaker 30: know the word went round, gosh you were having that
Speaker 30: wonderful final. Round we all got up early and we
Speaker 30: and we watched it and we felt for. You it
Speaker 30: was just the most marvelous thing to. See the debating Here,
Speaker 30: michael whether it's the greatest sporting achievement ever By New.
Speaker 9: Zealand, Michael, oh it's.
Speaker 29: Hard hard to. Say, really it's not my thing to
Speaker 29: say with my judgment probably, biased but maybe fining highlights of. Gentlemen,
Speaker 29: yeah that's probably probably on power To Bob charles went
Speaker 29: back in fifty.
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Speaker 29: Was wont to make a championship two two years, ago
Speaker 29: but to be part of history of, country little sporting
Speaker 29: history is a wonderful honor for.
Speaker 3: Me That's Michael campbell speaking with the late Great Paul,
Speaker 3: holmes the late Great Sir Paul, holmes the morning after
Speaker 3: his triumph in two thousand and. Five of, course last
Speaker 3: month we Had Ryan fox emulate him and he had
Speaker 3: a chat To Mike hoskin the morning. After we're celebrating
Speaker 3: one hundred years of Z b and we'll do it
Speaker 3: in depth after two with A, Dame Dame Lisa carrington
Speaker 3: going to join us after two. O'clock and Then, deeks the,
Speaker 3: one the, Only Murray. Deeker one hundred years of bringing
Speaker 3: you the big, weds.
Speaker 2: The big heartache.
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Speaker 8: Police batty's running Down charls and crash on us the.
Speaker 1: Protesters Weekends forward With Jesson dames and the seven dynamic
Speaker 1: black runout edition from. One News talk.
Speaker 2: Said oh then.
Speaker 3: Then newsic, man it takes your, bag doesn't. It News
Speaker 3: talks ED b two o. Seven I'm Jason pine With danda.
Speaker 3: McDonald this Is Weekend sport as we Celebrate News TALKS
Speaker 3: eDV turning one Hundred august, nine nineteen twenty. Six the
Speaker 3: station was heard for the first. Time i'm going to
Speaker 3: talk To Murray deeker this hour appointment listening as he
Speaker 3: was so often across as nearly three decades in this very,
Speaker 3: chair behind this very. Mic but As News TALKS dB
Speaker 3: celebrates one hundred years on the, year we thought it
Speaker 3: only fitting we spend some time with one of the
Speaker 3: Greatest New zealanders ever to wear the fern and to
Speaker 3: represent us on the world.
Speaker 12: Stage, oh it's gonna be a fight to the finish
Speaker 12: Between New zealand And. Hungary the rest have been left.
Speaker 12: Behind Can Lisa carrington make it eight gold? Medals she's
Speaker 12: got the race face on the Red Sonnies carrington coming
Speaker 12: down to the. Line it is gonna be gold For
Speaker 12: New Zealand's Lisa. Carrington it Is paris perfection.
Speaker 3: Here Dame Lisa carrington hasn't just rewritten the record, books
Speaker 3: she has torn them. Up From olympic gold In london
Speaker 3: and twenty twelve to an extraordinary haul of Eight Olympic
Speaker 3: golds and Nine olympic medals overall across her four games
Speaker 3: since she is our most Successful olympian of all. Time
Speaker 3: but those medals only tell part of the story behind
Speaker 3: the dominance has been years of relentless, discipline, sacrifice and
Speaker 3: an wavering pursuit of. Excellence now she and Husband michael
Speaker 3: are preparing for an exciting new. Chapter Dame lisa will
Speaker 3: soon become a, mum while still harboring deep ambitions to
Speaker 3: add another chapter to her incredible sporting. Legacy at The
Speaker 3: Los Angeles olympics in twenty twenty, Eight Dame Lisa carrington
Speaker 3: joins us to look back on the moments that shaped,
Speaker 3: her the memories she'll treasure, forever and what is coming.
Speaker 3: Next Dame, lisa thanks for joining us to help celebrate
Speaker 3: zb's one Hundredth when you hear the Words New zealand's Greatest,
Speaker 3: olympian what goes through your?
Speaker 23: Mind, yeah IT'S i, mean it was quite interesting hearing
Speaker 23: you have that little intro just. Then, no it, is it's.
Speaker 23: Unusual it's not SOMETHING i ever THOUGHT i could, do
Speaker 23: and it's. Not, YES i don't wake up every day
Speaker 23: thinking that for.
Speaker 3: Sure if from someone had told the teen Age Lisa
Speaker 3: carrington FROM hpi that she had become an eight Time olympic,
Speaker 3: champion what do you? Reckon she would have thought of.
Speaker 23: THAT i think she would have laughed and thought how
Speaker 23: and just maybe wouldn't even have started because that's quite,
Speaker 23: OVERWHELMING i think for a teenager who.
Speaker 3: First introduced you to kayaking and what was it that
Speaker 3: hooked you?
Speaker 23: In so kayaking really became a part of my life
Speaker 23: through surf life, Saving so starting in the surf ski
Speaker 23: at my local surf club at Fuk Taney Surf club.
Speaker 13: And then.
Speaker 23: Developing my dad's or developing. There my dad took me
Speaker 23: along to An ian ferguson kayak camp who was throwing
Speaker 23: At Lake, latouiti which was not very far From, Fulksani
Speaker 23: so we came along And, YEAH i guess that's kind
Speaker 23: of how it. Started AND i think from THERE i
Speaker 23: just picked up a Real. Isaac kayaking is you, know
Speaker 23: can take me a little bit further than surf life
Speaker 23: Saving AND i GUESS i just traveled on that, trajectory
Speaker 23: on that, path you, know Making New zealand teams and
Speaker 23: that type of, thing and when you start to be
Speaker 23: good at something to be, RECOGNIZED i just kind of carried.
Speaker 3: On, yeah were there moments early on when you realized
Speaker 3: that you were capable of taking the sport quite? Far for?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 13: Ah FOR.
Speaker 23: I think it's hard to. KNOW i think it's so
Speaker 23: gradual AND i think it was just small steps at a,
Speaker 23: time from you, know the fust ambition was just turning
Speaker 23: up and racing at a national, competition to then being
Speaker 23: picked for A New zealand, team a junior, team and
Speaker 23: then from there becoming one of the best peddlers In New.
Speaker 23: Zealand so it's really hard to know IF i WHEN
Speaker 23: I i, guess the thing THAT i find stranger IS
Speaker 23: i KNEW i could be good the moment THAT i
Speaker 23: started winning international, races which was and even then The
Speaker 23: olympics was still my goal and it sometimes you, KNOW
Speaker 23: i think maybe it's kiwik culture or how HOW i,
Speaker 23: am but it's really scary to dream really, big to,
Speaker 23: think you, Know i'm going to one day one gold
Speaker 23: medal when you don't know how you're going to do.
Speaker 23: It SO i think it was just a gradual thing
Speaker 23: of general just wanting to be better at, something RECOGNIZING
Speaker 23: i was good and, thinking, okay this pass is this
Speaker 23: is the ONE.
Speaker 14: I want to go.
Speaker 3: On, well it's been a wonderful path with more to.
Speaker 3: Come the eleventh Of august twenty, twelve just a few
Speaker 3: days short of fourteen years, Ago Dame, lisa what do
Speaker 3: you remember most vividly about the day you won your
Speaker 3: First olympic gold? Medal?
Speaker 23: Oh that, DAY i, think you, KNOW i remember waking
Speaker 23: up probably around four am and just trying to distract
Speaker 23: myself by, watching you, know some SOME tv, shows you, know,
Speaker 23: like you, KNOW i was only twenty, three SO i
Speaker 23: start pretty you, KNOW i was very, young well now
Speaker 23: compared to. Now AND i just remember kind of getting
Speaker 23: out there on the race course and hearing this heartbeat
Speaker 23: that the loudspeaker was playing as we were kind of
Speaker 23: rolling into our start, gates And i'm just, thinking why
Speaker 23: would they play? There it's like it's literally going faster
Speaker 23: and faster like that Is oh my, gosh that's that's quite.
Speaker 17: Scary, Yeah AND i guess at that, point you, know there.
Speaker 23: Was REAL i, mean there's not a lot of, expectation
Speaker 23: and so my biggest thing there WAS I i'd BEEN
Speaker 23: i was, LIKE i want to, win BUT i don't have,
Speaker 23: to you, Know SO i was kind of racing with
Speaker 23: a lot of, freedom AND i as we went down the,
Speaker 23: COURSE i remember having that last fift meters AND i
Speaker 23: DON'T i wasn't winning at that, point and just THINKING
Speaker 23: i want this and kind of recognizing then it's, like, wow,
Speaker 23: Okay i'm pretty. Competitive i'm in the.
Speaker 15: Race let's.
Speaker 3: Go so, yeah, unreal unreal. Stuff so gold In, london
Speaker 3: golden bronze And, rio three more golds In, tokyo three
Speaker 3: more golds In. Paris how different have each of Your
Speaker 3: Olympic games experiences been from one?
Speaker 5: Another?
Speaker 23: Yeah if they have been REALLY i guess quite, different
Speaker 23: particularly as you get, older you, know four years later
Speaker 23: or you, know if we're talking About tokyo And, paris
Speaker 23: those ones were five you, Know tokyo was five years
Speaker 23: posts twenty, sixteen and Then paris is only three years
Speaker 23: later From. Tokyo so each one has been really, different
Speaker 23: AND i, think really it's a trajectory of trying to
Speaker 23: constantly grow and be, better.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 23: Know adding in twenty, SIXTEEN i edited racing THE k
Speaker 23: one five, hundred WHICH i got, bronzen and then from there, realizing,
Speaker 23: OKAY i really want to do a bit of, there
Speaker 23: But i've got to find out figure out how to
Speaker 23: kind of push myself and challenge myself to get. Better
Speaker 23: and that's when WE i started racing team boats and
Speaker 23: after that to go Into Tokyo, olympics and so everyone's
Speaker 23: kind of an evolution to constantly try to find more
Speaker 23: and more capability and kind of reached the biff THAT i.
Speaker 17: Could do as an athlete and as a you, know
Speaker 17: as a.
Speaker 23: Person so every Every olympics tells a different, story but
Speaker 23: it is just like a as constantly a livel up
Speaker 23: on the next one or you, KNOW i couldn't have
Speaker 23: couldn't have done any of those medals In paris Or
Speaker 23: tokyo without the Previous olympics. Before so for constant, Growth, really.
Speaker 3: How much has the way you feel on An olympic
Speaker 3: start line? CHANGED i mean you talked about the heartbeat
Speaker 3: going through the speakers in twenty, twelve WOULD i think
Speaker 3: would have would have given any of us THE hebgb?
Speaker 3: Spot do you still do you still get nervous on
Speaker 3: An olympic start?
Speaker 13: Line?
Speaker 20: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 23: ABSOLUTELY i mean the CLOSER i got to you, know In,
Speaker 23: paris it WAS i think that was probably the Most
Speaker 23: that's the most physically.
Speaker 17: Best and mentally Best i've ever. Been and so still
Speaker 17: on that start line it just means a lot.
Speaker 23: MORE i think AS i have evolved through my athletic,
Speaker 23: career it Just i've kind of learned how to dig
Speaker 23: deeper and deeper and kind of put myself out there
Speaker 23: more and. More and so whilst you, know winning in twenty,
Speaker 23: TWELVE i just remember, thinking this is only scratching the.
Speaker 23: Surface SO i think there's no way That i've not
Speaker 23: lined up and had a great performance without being. NERVOUS
Speaker 23: i think. Nerves If i'm not, nervous there is something.
Speaker 17: Wrong but to, me it's like it.
Speaker 23: Helps me the best fun of myself because in that,
Speaker 23: MOMENT i, WANT i wanted. It i'm a little bit
Speaker 23: scared of not doing What i'm capable, of But i'm
Speaker 23: prepared to go and race the HARDEST i. Can so
Speaker 23: there's a real nice mass of.
Speaker 17: Confidence and, well don't stuff it.
Speaker 3: Up we see the metals and the metal, races but
Speaker 3: what is it that we don't see what have been
Speaker 3: the keys to your sustained? Excellence, YEAH i think while.
Speaker 23: It's it is just every day trying to be a
Speaker 23: little bit.
Speaker 19: Better and.
Speaker 23: You, know it isn't LIKE i, said that's an. Evolution
Speaker 23: so WHERE i got to and WHERE i am today
Speaker 23: is not the same athlete WHEN i. Started SO i
Speaker 23: think it's just been constantly learning how to tune your,
Speaker 23: training learning more turning, up showing up every day executing
Speaker 23: because by the end leading Into paris and really like
Speaker 23: there was no fault in my. Training so but that
Speaker 23: took a lot of, time and you, know.
Speaker 13: There's a lot of.
Speaker 23: You, know hard moments and it does become number one
Speaker 23: and things fall to the, side like you don't get
Speaker 23: as much time with your, family or you're constantly, tired
Speaker 23: or At christmas you've got to go training Or New.
Speaker 23: Year so there's those moments where there's it's there's a
Speaker 23: twenty four seven and but you, know like it you
Speaker 23: don't get to those to that place without giving it.
Speaker 23: All but it's amazing when you, know we get to do,
Speaker 23: it and you don't forget when you're on that podium
Speaker 23: and you cross the line and you're, like, oh you,
Speaker 23: know it worked really. Hard but you kind of when
Speaker 23: you are in the, trenches you kind of forget those
Speaker 23: hard moments too because it is. Tricky it is you,
Speaker 23: know when it all works, out it's all. Fine but,
Speaker 23: yeah so, there's, yeah there's a lot that goes into,
Speaker 23: it but, yeah absolutely wouldn't change it for the.
Speaker 3: World this year has brought very exciting personal news with
Speaker 3: your pregnancy and impending parenthood for you And, michael how
Speaker 3: much has that shifted your your perspective on life and on. Sport,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think.
Speaker 23: You, Well i'm you, know fundamentally the, same BUT i,
Speaker 23: think you, know it's really taught me to slow down
Speaker 23: a little. Bit AND i, think you, know there's LIKE i,
Speaker 23: see there's such an evolution to to my athletic career
Speaker 23: and to WHO i. Am SO i, think you, know
Speaker 23: this is really special for, us and it's so awesome
Speaker 23: for me to be on this journey was bucky BECAUSE
Speaker 23: i think you realize that whilst you know the middles
Speaker 23: or the successes are, incredible you can't you, know you
Speaker 23: work so hard for, it but ultimately there are bigger.
Speaker 17: Things so it's really.
Speaker 23: Special to me to kind of.
Speaker 17: Feel there and then look at sport in another, way.
Speaker 23: Which is it's not the bill with, indoor which it
Speaker 23: really does feel like when you're in it twenty four to.
Speaker 23: Seven SO i think it's a really nice way to just.
Speaker 23: Go you know, what at the end of the, day
Speaker 23: you walk, home you walk in the door at, home
Speaker 23: and you know your special people are. There SO i,
Speaker 23: think you, know where as sport is or. Not and you,
Speaker 23: know but for, sport for, athletes it stops at some
Speaker 23: point we either stop getting good, enough we get. Injured
Speaker 23: we're a year a bit.
Speaker 17: Old so you, know LIKE i, THINK i just really aware.
Speaker 23: There i'm so privileged to be doing sport and attempting
Speaker 23: it while doing this other crazy, thing which is incredibly.
Speaker 23: LATE i, mean every woman out there will will have
Speaker 23: their own, story but it's it's a really special thing
Speaker 23: and we're both really excited for.
Speaker 3: It And Los angeles twenty twenty eight remains a. Goal
Speaker 3: was it always your, Mindset Dame, lisa that you would
Speaker 3: be both a mum and continue to be an elite.
Speaker 2: Athlete, No LIKE i.
Speaker 23: Think initially or a few years, AGO i thought it wasn't,
Speaker 23: possible and then just because of you, know their commitment
Speaker 23: it takes to do, SPORT i didn't think it Was
Speaker 23: and then now we get to see these amazing. Families you,
Speaker 23: KNOW i say families because it's you, know there's there's this,
Speaker 23: female the female that has to compete and have the,
Speaker 23: child but it's also the support and you, know the
Speaker 23: team around the athlete that really make it.
Speaker 17: Happen So.
Speaker 23: I've seen a number of scenarios where it's been, possible
Speaker 23: AND i think it's initially like, yeah like naively two
Speaker 23: years ago was like it's not, POSSIBLE i can't do.
Speaker 23: It so then, go, WELL i actually still want to do.
Speaker 23: Sport it's it's an amazing career AND i want to
Speaker 23: be a mum and so, LIKE i know that there's
Speaker 23: so much undercertainty in this, space BUT i would love
Speaker 23: to just continue and come back and do, it you,
Speaker 23: know do both the BEST i.
Speaker 16: Can so, YEAH i think that's.
Speaker 3: AMAZING i think that's. Amazing we're celebrating one hundred years
Speaker 3: of course here AT zb and sport has produced so
Speaker 3: many unforgettable moments over over those. Decades do you have
Speaker 3: a favorite sporting moment that doesn't involve.
Speaker 13: You, yeah it's.
Speaker 23: Interesting you, Know i've, been you, know with watching The
Speaker 23: Calm games, Recently i've been thinking about the great moments
Speaker 23: That i've been able to witness and be there in,
Speaker 23: person and you, know like there are. MOMENTS i think
Speaker 23: it was in twenty sixteen WHEN I i was racing
Speaker 23: there we got to watch May drysale race His olympic
Speaker 23: final and just being on that finish line and watching
Speaker 23: him win that race by a whisker was, incredible you,
Speaker 23: know back to back From. London him winning was quite
Speaker 23: especially WHEN i think there's something amazing when you are
Speaker 23: able to be there and witness. It but also a
Speaker 23: little bit more recently was the women's Rugby Wild cup
Speaker 23: here In auckland a few years. Ago just the it
Speaker 23: could feel the energy and the crowd and the willingness
Speaker 23: for our black friends to win The World cup was
Speaker 23: that was the epic as. Well AND i mean that
Speaker 23: really thrust a lot of those you, know those players
Speaker 23: into the spotlight and really highlighted professional. Sports so, yeah
Speaker 23: there's some.
Speaker 17: Where such a Cool we've had so many amazing.
Speaker 23: You know successes over the over the years and such
Speaker 23: a little. Country so, yeah there's probably a two sex
Speaker 23: spring to.
Speaker 3: Mind outstanding just to finish when we celebrate our two
Speaker 3: hundred years so one hundred years from, now when people
Speaker 3: are looking back and we're well, gone what do you
Speaker 3: what do you kind of hope people will will think
Speaker 3: and say when they when they Remember Dame Lisa.
Speaker 7: Carrington, YEAH i don't really.
Speaker 23: KNOW i THINK i, guess you, know we don't know
Speaker 23: If olympics is going to be the way we know
Speaker 23: today right like it's potentially the way the world's, going
Speaker 23: it's going to. Change SO i think just looking back and,
Speaker 23: thinking you, know the little you, know Little New zealand
Speaker 23: being able to produce excellence on the world stage and
Speaker 23: being really proud of, THAT i, think and believing that you,
Speaker 23: know anybody can kind of, work work hard and do amazing.
Speaker 23: Things SO i hope that just draws a bit of
Speaker 23: inspiration for people and a one hundred years, Time i'm
Speaker 23: sure you're far off.
Speaker 3: Memory i'm sure it'll. Be it'll be forever enshrined in
Speaker 3: our sporting. History Dame, lisa it's been great to chat to.
Speaker 3: You all the very best for a tremendously exciting time.
Speaker 3: AHEAD i can highly recommend. Parenthood i'm sure you're going
Speaker 3: to be great at it and we look forward to
Speaker 3: seeing seeing you then back on the water and charging
Speaker 3: TOWARDS la twenty twenty. Eight it's been a great pleasure to.
Speaker 3: Chat thanks for taking the.
Speaker 23: Call, oh thank you so, Much.
Speaker 3: No thank, You Dame. Lisa Dame Lisa carrington our Greatest,
Speaker 3: olympian eight gold, medals nine all up and an absolute
Speaker 3: delight exciting time for her about to become a mum
Speaker 3: and then back on the water and charging Towards la
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight Six Murray deeker before. Three your favorite
Speaker 3: sporting memories from the last one hundred, years available to
Speaker 3: text them through or on the. Phone oh eight hundred
Speaker 3: eighty ten. Eighty this Is Weekend sport back in the month.
Speaker 2: One hundred years of bringing you the Big wins.
Speaker 13: Cup you see it's cut.
Speaker 2: The big, heartache.
Speaker 13: News and the big.
Speaker 8: Issues Hellier harry is the sound Of, Ice bobby's, Raining
Speaker 8: Joe shields and crash on.
Speaker 2: Us The Protests Weekends board With Jason tyne the right.
Speaker 1: And The audi two seven dynamic Black runout edition from
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Speaker 3: Be two twenty, Nine bread, says While lisa is, Amazing
Speaker 3: punuck guilf For New Zealand you'll always be the. Best
Speaker 3: couldn't agree More, bread could not agree More High, Chris, Hi.
Speaker 21: Hi, jason great. Show look just my first memory of
Speaker 21: the Spring box At Lencaster park ninety six. FIVE i
Speaker 21: thought we had huge, forward then there's ran out And Alice,
Speaker 21: Stricter prix. Etcetera tiny. UDEA i don't know over fifty
Speaker 21: thousand there and you know sixteen all and udeas me
Speaker 21: getting done over in.
Speaker 19: The ruts by the All Black.
Speaker 21: Fords all day is a lock and with a wet
Speaker 21: laced up ball from in front in front of the,
Speaker 21: bank he kicks the winning.
Speaker 3: Goal. Yeah, man, Man it's amazing what you, remember isn't.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 3: Chris i've often SAID i don't know which day the
Speaker 3: bins go, out BUT i can remember stuff from forty
Speaker 3: to fifty years ago THAT i witnessed as a as
Speaker 3: a young, boy as obviously you can. Too, yes and
Speaker 3: and my.
Speaker 21: Fourth Warning, Memories well that was, one but also that
Speaker 21: series listening to it By John houston during the.
Speaker 3: Court, Yes John, Howson, yes So.
Speaker 21: John houston does the coll and you KNOW i need
Speaker 21: HEARD i Heard John howson a lot of. Times the
Speaker 21: other one was seventy six In montreal when we won
Speaker 21: the gold medal in the hockey AND i think it
Speaker 21: was All In. RICHARDS i don't think My john macbeest
Speaker 21: did it because he's From timur and So i'm pretty
Speaker 21: sure it Was Alan richards did the.
Speaker 19: Call there a.
Speaker 21: A he won At, headingley first Ever test win In.
Speaker 21: England Brian waddell eighty five and Pers Brian Waddle series
Speaker 21: win Against australia seventy four At Lancaster, park First test
Speaker 21: win ever Against, Australia Alan richards and then finishing up
Speaker 21: With Brian allen With brandon three hundred.
Speaker 11: To the.
Speaker 21: Base AND i was there as well and listening on
Speaker 21: the radio to what's, Again, yeah.
Speaker 3: Some great voices bringing us amazing. Moments, chris thanks for calling, through. Mate,
Speaker 3: yeah That's that's Something i've been thinking a lot about
Speaker 3: in the in the last few. Days is the is
Speaker 3: the voices that that have brought us these, Moments And
Speaker 3: chris mentioned a few. There one of the biggest influencers
Speaker 3: on me has Been Graham, moody the, late extremely Great Graham, Moody,
Speaker 3: moods his voice bringing us so many memorable. Moments the
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety Five Rugby World Cup final Of Alice. PARK
Speaker 3: i Think Murray deaker might have been alongside him that
Speaker 3: day in the expert comments, seat you, Know moods calling
Speaker 3: that in the ninety six tour and so many other iconic,
Speaker 3: moments so many iconic. Voices thanks for all your texts
Speaker 3: and feedback as. Well twenty Eight away from three speaking
Speaker 3: Of Murray, deeker a trailblazer in radio sports. Broadcasting he
Speaker 3: is with us right after this On Weekend. Sport the
Speaker 3: big names in sport have talked to us for one hundred.
Speaker 2: Years Good, Morning Everybody well on the.
Speaker 1: Air Weekend sport With Jason pain and THE udq Seven
Speaker 1: Dynamic Black Runout edition includes thirty thousand dollars of premium.
Speaker 2: Upgrades call oh eight hundred eighty ten Eighty News talk
Speaker 2: Z b.
Speaker 3: Two thirty five As News TALK sedb celebrates one hundred
Speaker 3: years of. Broadcasting there are certain voices that have become
Speaker 3: part Of New zealand's sporting, soundtrack and few are more
Speaker 3: recognizable Than Murray. Deecer's for more than thirty, Years murray
Speaker 3: was one of the country's most influential and uncompromising sports.
Speaker 3: Broadcasters his Programs Spark, Debate Broke, stories challenged the biggest
Speaker 3: names in sport and gave listeners a platform to have their.
Speaker 3: Say whether you agreed with him or, not you always
Speaker 3: listened along the. Way he won the award For Best
Speaker 3: Sports Presenter commentator seven, times was a finalist on another ten.
Speaker 3: Occasions was appointed An officer of The New Zealand order
Speaker 3: Of merit for services To broadcasting in two thousand and
Speaker 3: nine and received The Outstanding contribution To Radio award in twenty.
Speaker 3: Fourteen but perhaps his greatest achievement was becoming one of
Speaker 3: the defining voices Of New zealand sport across a. Generation
Speaker 3: as we celebrate a century of news, talks 'b a
Speaker 3: great pleasure to welcome back one of the statesations broadcasting.
Speaker 3: Legends Murray deeker is with. Us, murray great to have
Speaker 3: you on the. Air you spent nearly thirty years behind
Speaker 3: the microphone here At News Talk. Zbaby when you first
Speaker 3: walked into the zb, studio did you have any idea
Speaker 3: what the journey would?
Speaker 16: Become, pony that's an outstanding. Introduction, listen the checker is
Speaker 16: on the. Way you've got it word for.
Speaker 3: It, well a man of your quality deserves an intro like.
Speaker 3: That but where did it all?
Speaker 16: Begin, well it basically, began as things often. DO i
Speaker 16: was a replacement for other, people mainly For Andy, hayden
Speaker 16: and he did a show between eleven and. Twelve and
Speaker 16: at the TIME i was running The foundation For alcohol
Speaker 16: And Drug education and the mative minde was packing. Pies
Speaker 16: he was running a pie factory and he looked. Down
Speaker 16: he was the only Person i'd told THAT i had
Speaker 16: to get out of the area of drug and alcohol.
Speaker 16: Education only person he looked down he saw scoreboard presenter.
Speaker 16: Required he rang me. Up he, said, mate this is your.
Speaker 16: Job you should get into. THIS i Rang Bill francis
Speaker 16: said to, Me, NO i didn't think you'd be interested in,
Speaker 16: that because you dedicated to the area of. EDUCATION i, said,
Speaker 16: Mate i've had an absolute cuts full of. It i'm
Speaker 16: ready to move. On what, Happened, fortunately was it a
Speaker 16: guy WHO i don't know Called bill McLaren bill McCarthy
Speaker 16: And wellington had been already, appointed but he was arguing
Speaker 16: about the money that they were, paying and it was
Speaker 16: no wonder the money was. Pathetic and so while he
Speaker 16: was arguing with, that they gave me a. Trial AND
Speaker 16: i had been sitting in that seat where you sat,
Speaker 16: too And i'd been there about an hour and a,
Speaker 16: half AND i thought that this Jacket wellington comes, Up
Speaker 16: i'll kill him BECAUSE i knew that this was the
Speaker 16: job for.
Speaker 3: Me well it was the job for, you and your
Speaker 3: style became a legendary. Passionate you were, Fourth you were
Speaker 3: never afraid to ask difficult. Questions did that style come
Speaker 3: naturally or was it something you developed over? Time, no
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 16: NATURAL i felt it was my job to ask the
Speaker 16: questions that the listener, wanted asked that the bloke sitting
Speaker 16: in the car driving along or the woman preparing dinner
Speaker 16: would have asked WHOEVER i was, interviewing and that led
Speaker 16: at times to tough, questions controversial, questions and it didn't.
Speaker 16: MATTER i viewed it very carefully THAT i was there
Speaker 16: for two, things for the listeners and to promote, sport
Speaker 16: and that was. It and of personalities got in the
Speaker 16: way or that was their, problem not.
Speaker 3: Mine did you ever think to, yourself, All i've gone
Speaker 3: a bit far there or did you never think?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 16: NO i never thought that never crossed my.
Speaker 3: Mind on talk, radio we tend to use a delay
Speaker 3: function that allows us to dump anything which shouldn't go
Speaker 3: to Where NOW i understand that you would often broadcast
Speaker 3: without a. Delay so did you ever get caught?
Speaker 11: Out, yeah.
Speaker 16: Totally i'm coached In New Aukland Secondary school's rugby team
Speaker 16: in one of the outstanding players and it was a
Speaker 16: guy Called Murray. Dixon it was a team that had
Speaker 16: in It Shawn, Fitzpatrick farnobodika. Feenie you, know there were
Speaker 16: a lot of great players mark great batchels in, them
Speaker 16: but the spot was off the back of the line
Speaker 16: out and he was the. Star AND i sort of
Speaker 16: forgot about him AS i moved into. Radio and then
Speaker 16: about nineteen ninety two he ranged me up at home
Speaker 16: and SAID i need a. Favor AND i, SAID, dicko
Speaker 16: what is? It and he, SAID i need to get
Speaker 16: on your radio. Program i'm working For epiglass And i'm
Speaker 16: meant to be selling this stuff and he, said you,
Speaker 16: KNOW i need a plug AND i, said just doesn't
Speaker 16: work like, that, MATE i can't do. It AND i
Speaker 16: could hear the disappointment coming all the way from West
Speaker 16: auckland to. Me AND i said to, him, listen does
Speaker 16: every glass sponsor or? Anything and he, said, yeah The Tenor.
Speaker 16: Cup AND i didn't have a clue what he was talking,
Speaker 16: about AND i, said, well when's that? On he said
Speaker 16: next week In New plymouth and this is a race
Speaker 16: for in pea class yachts.
Speaker 6: For little boys and.
Speaker 16: Girls and SO i, said you go down, there take
Speaker 16: a mobile phone with you and cover it And i'll
Speaker 16: come to. You SO i come into Z b at
Speaker 16: about eleven o'clock an hour before we started by that stage,
Speaker 16: buildings as he often, did my producers have a gap
Speaker 16: OF plexi he, said who's this snipwork you've got coming?
Speaker 16: ON i, said what are you talking? About he, said
Speaker 16: we're announcing an all black team at twelve. O'clock if
Speaker 16: this joker wants to wants to go on before.
Speaker 22: Them and.
Speaker 16: So at two o'clock what happened was This we FINALLY
Speaker 16: i calmed Down murray AND i said to, him, mate
Speaker 16: we'll have you on straight. Up the music, too and
Speaker 16: after THE us it. Too it went like, This.
Speaker 22: It is The.
Speaker 16: America's cup of secondary school. Yachting the greats have been, Here, Blake, Dixon,
Speaker 16: barker they've all. Competed and now to cover this event
Speaker 16: and association With, epiglass that wonderful product that we've got
Speaker 16: Is Murray. Dixon murray was in a tin boat and
Speaker 16: he stood out of the tin boat and stood on a,
Speaker 16: crab and so the class cross, went our man down
Speaker 16: there Is Murray. Dixon. Shit oh, sorry, deeps BUT i
Speaker 16: stood on a flippant. Grab now the word wasn't, flippant
Speaker 16: but it was rhymed with.
Speaker 3: It, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 16: Stuff not one, complank not one, Complaint. Piney people just
Speaker 16: know when someone's genuine or. Not dixon denies a path
Speaker 16: of the time WHEN i run into.
Speaker 3: That's. Magnificent you Mentioned Greg billings, there your longtime. Producer
Speaker 3: tell us a bit more about.
Speaker 16: Him, yeah twenty three years he produced that. Program he's
Speaker 16: got he's got an amazing feel for. Radio he'd been
Speaker 16: in it all his. Life you, SEE i hadn't. Been
Speaker 16: and WHEN i came, in all he did was grizzly
Speaker 16: moan and yell at. Me AND i had to fill
Speaker 16: in for Late In smith one, day And Carolyn leane
Speaker 16: he said after the, intro, jeekes that was. Terrific AND
Speaker 16: i looked up at her and thought she was taking
Speaker 16: the piss out of, me because that's All gregor and ever.
Speaker 16: Done and YET i could not have wished for a better.
Speaker 16: Producer he suited my. Style he was very loyal to
Speaker 16: me behind my.
Speaker 11: Back he just.
Speaker 15: Defended me all the.
Speaker 16: Time that's got sick of doing. It and for twenty three.
Speaker 16: Years we went to war. Together and he read me
Speaker 16: about three days ago and he said to, Me i've
Speaker 16: just sent a nd AND i won't mention the radio.
Speaker 16: Station it's not. Ours he, Said i've just seen an
Speaker 16: ad for a program on A. Saturday it's got four.
Speaker 16: Producers can you imagine? That AND i thought to, Myself,
Speaker 16: greg you know you produced. It we did six hours On,
Speaker 16: saturday six hours On, sunday every public. HOLIDAY i did
Speaker 16: two hundred and fourteen shows in a row BECAUSE i
Speaker 16: wasn't prepared to not go on in case that guy
Speaker 16: from McCarthy From wellington came up and on a, receipt
Speaker 16: SO i wasn't going to let anyone else in.
Speaker 5: There and we just worked.
Speaker 16: Together And i've probably spent more time with him THAN
Speaker 16: i have with my, wife and you, know AND i
Speaker 16: live with. Her But greg AND i just got, on
Speaker 16: and you, know we still get. On we still, argue
Speaker 16: and we still, fight and he still tells me off
Speaker 16: AND i still tell him WHAT i think of. Him
Speaker 16: BUT i would not have swapped him for.
Speaker 3: Anyone, yeah he is a brilliant. Guy he used to ring,
Speaker 3: Up It's greg from the. Radio that's all you needed to.
Speaker 3: Know It's greg from the. Radio and everybody.
Speaker 13: Knew who he.
Speaker 3: Was viewed hundreds thousands of sports, people. Digs who do
Speaker 3: you admire the?
Speaker 2: Most richie McCaw.
Speaker 16: For all sorts of reasons his captaincy winning The World
Speaker 16: cup on one, leg but a personal, Side richie has
Speaker 16: incredible royalty to. People so On rebel with A cause ON,
Speaker 16: TV i Imitated hanson and you know how he, diversity
Speaker 16: it's going to be down the, dub all that sort
Speaker 16: of stuff that he was, doing AND i did it
Speaker 16: all at the.
Speaker 13: End of the.
Speaker 16: Program richie had been injured and had been appearing on
Speaker 16: my radio show at the top of the program and
Speaker 16: people had loved. It so AFTER i had done, that
Speaker 16: we went to cross to him and he wasn't. There
Speaker 16: we made inquiries and he's message came, back If mary's
Speaker 16: going to criticize my friends like, THAT i don't want
Speaker 16: to barron. It SO i wasn't going to back. DOWN
Speaker 16: i seen him a message saying. YOU i, said you,
Speaker 16: Know henson had been sitting straight opposite me AND i
Speaker 16: said the same.
Speaker 5: Thing and.
Speaker 16: We didn't make contact again for three or four. MONTHS
Speaker 16: i was going through a period where BASICALLY i couldn't
Speaker 16: get any all black on my show at. ALL i
Speaker 16: went through a period one time pinety of about three.
Speaker 16: Years people weren't aware of it BECAUSE i just talked
Speaker 16: about them instead of to. Them, ANYWAY i couldn't get to,
Speaker 16: anyone AND i applied to through the kennels and came through. That,
Speaker 16: Yes George duncan would come. On he was the message,
Speaker 16: guy And Richard gill who was the fit this, guy
Speaker 16: and then McCaw And richie flew up From christchurch went
Speaker 16: on THE tv. Show of course we recorded at for
Speaker 16: radio as, well and after the show we were driving
Speaker 16: to the hotel he was staying In Spencer On byron
Speaker 16: AND i, Said, TOM i really appreciate you coming, up
Speaker 16: And richie just looked at me and he, said, well
Speaker 16: that's in the, Past, Murray let's move. On and that's
Speaker 16: the mark of the. Man he is, spectacular no question about.
Speaker 16: It EVERYTHING i had to do with him was to
Speaker 16: do with, loyal, humility total, essence no wonder The All
Speaker 16: blacks played well under.
Speaker 3: Him you've Seen New zealand sport evolve enormously both during
Speaker 3: your time behind the, mic all of that time and
Speaker 3: the time Since. Murray in your, eyes what has changed
Speaker 3: the most for better and also for.
Speaker 16: Worse standards are, HIGHER i, reckon the times are, better
Speaker 16: the skills are more, developed and the professionalism is becoming a.
Speaker 16: Parent what's, worse club sport has, suffered particularly, rugby And
Speaker 16: i'm disappointed in. THAT i get told by the guys
Speaker 16: at North Shore Rugby club So i'm In gunbury and
Speaker 16: co that their clubs has. Gone and in fact it
Speaker 16: is true that in some areas club rugby is still,
Speaker 16: strong but there are less numbers. Playing AND i think
Speaker 16: that has a lot to do with the fact that
Speaker 16: there is too much concentration on the top of the
Speaker 16: pyramid and not enough on the grass. Roots New zealand
Speaker 16: sport is strong when the grass roots are. Strong and
Speaker 16: IF i was to find one other thing that stands
Speaker 16: out to, me and it just stands out so. CLEARLY
Speaker 16: i cannot believe the success That New zealand cricket. Has
Speaker 16: people don't talk about. It there is no other country
Speaker 16: in the world has ever gone To india and won
Speaker 16: A test series three. Nil we were the first to
Speaker 16: win the Inaugural Test. Championship we were beaten that time
Speaker 16: when the bat ball Hit stokes as bat in the
Speaker 16: fifty to. Fifty we go to The West indies with
Speaker 16: a team And i'm looking at these jokers that are
Speaker 16: playing over. THERE i don't even have a clue who they.
Speaker 16: Are they've been pulled in off the paddic and they
Speaker 16: beat The West. Indies could, god The West indians used
Speaker 16: to murder. Us cricket gets a bum rush from today's
Speaker 16: media there are it very rarely leads THE tv in zen.
Speaker 16: News and you, Know i'm waiting to hope That Andrew
Speaker 16: saville is at our reunion BECAUSE i want to get
Speaker 16: right at his ear and chewy about because he could
Speaker 16: do something on. That cricket has been the success story for.
Speaker 16: Me women's sports getting more. Emphasis why? Not and you do,
Speaker 16: that and you do without thinking about. IT i actually
Speaker 16: used to think about making sure that it was women's
Speaker 16: sport on my program because in those, days the person
Speaker 16: who was in charge of the radio in the house
Speaker 16: was the white AND i wanted to get ratings, up
Speaker 16: and SO i used to do a lot on, netball in,
Speaker 16: particular because it was a SPORT i knew a little
Speaker 16: bit about because.
Speaker 5: My sister played.
Speaker 3: It very sound strategy just to finish. Stakes zedby's been
Speaker 3: part Of New Yellen holmes for one hundred years, now
Speaker 3: one hundred. Years when people look back at your, contribution
Speaker 3: your significant contribution to THE zb, story what do you
Speaker 3: hope they. REMEMBER i hope they.
Speaker 16: Put a smile on their, face AND i hope that they, think,
Speaker 16: hey he told it the way he saw. It sometimes
Speaker 16: he got it, wrong sometimes he got it. Right but
Speaker 16: he told it with, passion and he told it with almost.
Speaker 16: Love because, really When i'm asked what are the things
Speaker 16: THAT i like in my, world sport is right up.
Speaker 16: There family first and then sports second for. Me and
Speaker 16: it will always be like, That AND i hope that
Speaker 16: that's what people, remember because it was with out doubt
Speaker 16: the time of my life THAT i will always look
Speaker 16: back on with warmths and with the fact THAT i
Speaker 16: worked with a gang of good, people but particularly the
Speaker 16: relationship With billings was important One.
Speaker 3: MURRAY i just wanted to finish by thanking you personally
Speaker 3: for the trail that you blazed for everyone who's followed
Speaker 3: you into the wonderful world of. Sport on news talks
Speaker 3: he'd BE i listened to you growing up and as
Speaker 3: a young man and never believed i'd be given the
Speaker 3: honor of the same microphone that you. Had none of
Speaker 3: us will ever match what you did or the impact
Speaker 3: and influence you had on many many. People congratulations on
Speaker 3: your hugely significant role in our broadcasting. History and thanks
Speaker 3: for joining us this. Afternoon you're too.
Speaker 16: Kind keep up the good work and keep doing the
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