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Speaker 1: It's New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Allen on the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate all together better across residential, commercial and rural news talk.

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Speaker 2: Dead be morning and welcome. Coming up, we are going

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Speaker 2: to be talking open plan versus single classroom. Shirley Boys

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Speaker 2: has spent a fortune going back to the old way,

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Speaker 2: the principles with us after seven councils have been told

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Speaker 2: to stop working on district and regional plans because the

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Speaker 2: law's changing anyway. We'll have attached to the experts. Sunny

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Speaker 2: Koschl on why his crime group is so expensive, Richie

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Speaker 2: Bunnette on whether RTS really is going to take the

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Speaker 2: Saudi money. And have you heard of Lockie Hayes from Tokanui.

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Speaker 2: If you love country, they need to listen to it.

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Speaker 2: You'll be with us after eight must Heather Duplicy elan, Look,

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Speaker 2: I might be being hopelessly optimistic, but I have got

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Speaker 2: some hope that we may soon be able to turn

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Speaker 2: around our abysmal participation in local council elections. Local government

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Speaker 2: is releasing a report today on how to get us

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Speaker 2: voting and their idea is pretty simple. Basically, ditch the

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Speaker 2: postal votes, switch to running council elections like we do

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Speaker 2: central government elections. It'll be much more expensive, but it

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Speaker 2: will probably work if we do it, because you are

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Speaker 2: more likely to be reminded to vote if you see

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Speaker 2: the Orange man on a booth in your supermarket than

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Speaker 2: if you lose your voting form in the pile of

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Speaker 2: papers that's sitting on your kitchen bench. Now, I like

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Speaker 2: that idea, and I hope we do that idea, But

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Speaker 2: actually I don't think that this is the game changer.

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Speaker 2: I reckon the game changer costs us nothing. It's the

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Speaker 2: fact that ACT is standing candidates and council elections for

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Speaker 2: the first time this year. What I think really stops

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Speaker 2: us from voting is not how we vote. It's that

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Speaker 2: we don't know who the heck the people are who

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Speaker 2: want us to vote for them, and we do not

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Speaker 2: have time to research them. But if they say that

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Speaker 2: their ACT, or they say that their Labor or the Greens,

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Speaker 2: it gives us a shortcut and we know roughly what

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Speaker 2: they stand for. And this, I think is why the

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Speaker 2: Greens and Labor do disproportionately well at council elections. It

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Speaker 2: go somewhere to explaining why they constantly take out Wellington

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Speaker 2: council elections even though they're hopeless at it, because they

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Speaker 2: are already doing this and ACT is now going to

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Speaker 2: do it. And I think that's a game changer because

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Speaker 2: it starts with the pressure on National. The National has

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Speaker 2: to do it. If National is the last big hold

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Speaker 2: out here. If they do it, it's on and that

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Speaker 2: I think will get us voting because then we know

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Speaker 2: who these people are and also we know who to

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Speaker 2: hold accountable.

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Speaker 3: News of the world. In ninety seconds, Trump.

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Speaker 2: Had the Bahrain crown Prince on the yellow chairs, but

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Speaker 2: that pesky Epstein guy just kept on coming up.

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Speaker 4: I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It

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Speaker 4: started to actually look at the Steel Darcier that turned

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Speaker 4: out to be a total hoax. The fifty one Agency

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Speaker 4: intelligence so called intelligence agents was a hoax. It's all

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Speaker 4: been a big hoax.

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Speaker 2: Trump apparently also polled his lawmakers as to whether he

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Speaker 2: should fire Jerome Powell or not or is that also

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Speaker 2: a hoax.

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Speaker 4: You need a very smart person for that job. I

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Speaker 4: think it's one of the easiest jobs in government. You

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Speaker 4: show up once a month in your banker statement about

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Speaker 4: where the economy is going and we're going to raise

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Speaker 4: our lower interest rates. It's probably the easiest job I've

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Speaker 4: ever seen.

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Speaker 2: The Bahrain Crown Prince who to watch all of that

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Speaker 2: theater was asked about the Middle East after the Iran

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Speaker 2: Israel conflict.

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Speaker 1: Well, I definitely believe that the volatility.

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Speaker 5: Of the situation has been reduced, and we.

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Speaker 6: Didn't know where it was going to go on the Sunday.

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Speaker 7: We were very glad when we found out on the Monday.

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Speaker 2: Let me put it that way, a US citizen has

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Speaker 2: been caught up in Israel's attacks on the WIS Bank.

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Speaker 8: We protect all American citizens anywhere in the world, especially

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Speaker 8: they're unjustly murdered or killed. So we're gathering more information.

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Speaker 8: But I hope you saw yesterday, ambassador, how could be

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Speaker 8: in Israel? Asked the Israelis as the authorities to produce

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Speaker 8: an investigation and concrete information about who was responsible.

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Speaker 2: Over in the UK, Kiyostama has had now now had

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Speaker 2: a guts full of some of his in party revolters.

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Speaker 2: He suspended four of them to.

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Speaker 9: Re further labor MPs have had their roles as trade

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Speaker 9: envoys taken off them and they are Rosanna Alan Kahn,

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Speaker 9: Bell Ribero Addi and Mohammad Yassin. They were also active

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Speaker 2: One of them was Rachel Musquete Mesco, but she doesn't

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Speaker 2: We've got to.

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Speaker 10: Protect those people in our society. I believe that, so

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Speaker 10: I could not have on my conscience something where we

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Speaker 10: know that people would take their own lives if they

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Speaker 2: Now, finally, the people of Thanet and Kent are annoyed,

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Speaker 2: and that is because the Thanet District Council is trying

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Speaker 2: to completely ban swearing. They're trying to introduce a public

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Speaker 2: Spaces Protection Order that would see anyone using foul or

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Speaker 2: abusive language in a manner that is loud or could

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Speaker 2: cause distress by finding them two hundred and twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say thousand, but it's two hundred

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Speaker 2: Speech Union this time around. And that is news of

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Speaker 2: the world in ninety now. On that business with Trump

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Speaker 2: and Jerome Powell, what's happened is there's a New York

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Speaker 2: Times story that says that on Tuesday night he met

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Speaker 2: a draft letter in which he fires Jerome Powell. And

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Speaker 2: he holds this draft left her up to them and

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Speaker 2: asks them whether he should go ahead and do it.

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Speaker 2: And when he's polling them, I'm probably going to do

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Speaker 2: got the letter there, he's asking their opinions. He's indicated

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Speaker 2: he's going to do it anyway. He was asked about

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Speaker 2: it in the Oval Office Wednesday, their time, so you know,

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Speaker 2: the following day he denies that there is a letter,

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Speaker 2: but he did confirm that the rest of it basically happened,

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Speaker 2: and he did poll their thoughts on whether he should

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Speaker 2: fire Jerome Powell, but he said it's not happening imminently.

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Speaker 2: Heather've got some more earnings from some of the banks.

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Speaker 11: We certainly have them. Some of the banks again bit

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Speaker 11: of a mixed picture. So Bank of America they had

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Speaker 11: profit climbing around about three percent from a year ago

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Speaker 11: to seven point one billion. That was ahead of estimates.

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Speaker 11: I have a four percent game and revenues twenty six

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Speaker 11: point six billion. That was actually below expectations. But they've

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Speaker 11: been the only major US bank thus far is fall

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Speaker 11: short there just really for that they were talking about

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Speaker 11: and just threats being lower than a year ago. They

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Speaker 11: did say the consume was in good shapes. That was

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Speaker 11: good news, and bad debts are low. She is down

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Speaker 11: around about one percent. And then we had Morgan Stanley.

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Speaker 11: They were well ahead of expectations. High trading revenues benefited

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Speaker 11: were trading around record high as recently in gold and

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Speaker 11: sacks they also came out as well, and much like

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Speaker 11: Morgan Stanley, they've benefited from high trading amidst all the

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Speaker 11: volatility with a certain person from the White House and

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Speaker 11: uncertainly over an ever evolving trade situation. So their trading

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Speaker 11: operations generated eight hundred and forty million dollars in revenue,

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Speaker 11: more than expected, profit up twenty two percent three point

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Speaker 11: seven billion, revenues up fifteen percent fourteen point six billion.

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Speaker 11: That was around about one point one billion more than expected.

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Speaker 11: Stock trading wise, their revenue sawed thirty six percent. Investment

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Speaker 11: making around twenty six percent surge there. She has topped

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Speaker 11: it was a really interesting result from healthcare giant Johnson

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Speaker 11: their best day and over a year, very strong result.

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Speaker 11: Revenues up six percent twenty three point seven billion. Strong

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Speaker 11: sales are cancer treatments, medical devices earnings up nineteen percent.

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Speaker 11: They've actually also lifted for your guidance for earnings and

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Speaker 11: sales growth to investors like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what about the US producer price inflation numbers?

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Speaker 11: for encouragement here. Wholesale prices are actually unchanged in June

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Speaker 11: lift in communication equipment for as an example. On annual basis,

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Speaker 11: the headline PPI is two point three percent. That was

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Speaker 11: along the CPI that there's a fairly marginal impact of

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Speaker 11: that was triple what was initially reported. But you mentioned

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump, He'll be, no doubt pushing for more, pushing

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Speaker 11: the line of sort of more rate cuts and sort

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Speaker 11: of putting the pressure on Jerome Pal. Yeah, it's sort

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Speaker 11: of he's keeping and guessing, isn't He sort of told

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Speaker 11: but then he sort of come back and said that

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Speaker 11: that was highly unlikely. So I suppose your Pal's term

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Speaker 11: uncertainly something he's going to have to live for them

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Speaker 11: and the months ahead, and looking over his shoulder. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: to his credit he said that decisions will be based

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Speaker 11: on the data, which is what we like to hear.

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Speaker 2: Now, fair bit of news from the Kiwi electricity sector own.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. So gosh, it's sucking down outside of

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Speaker 11: the moment, Warren, But yeah, it has been a very

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Speaker 11: dry year which has impacted the gent tailors. So we

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Speaker 11: or six months. A sober earnings. There was a couple

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Speaker 2: The National Library is planning another color of its books

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Speaker 2: They're among about half a million books being dumped to

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Speaker 16: Good morning, Peter, good morning, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Do you mind the shredding

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Speaker 16: Well, I don't mind particularly, but my goodness, religions do mind.

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Speaker 16: You know, there is a whole set of books talking

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Speaker 16: And for the Sikhs, it's a very remarkable story. They

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Speaker 15: You know, I could go on.

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Speaker 16: Them yes, I think that's essential. I mean I am

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Speaker 16: It doesn't need to have everything, and I think it's

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Speaker 16: Well, for start. The amazing thing is over the Generations

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Speaker 15: Like the real book.

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Speaker 16: I can tell you. I love the National Library.

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Speaker 17: I just love.

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Speaker 16: Going in and drawing upon its huge resources.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: It's lovely to talk to you, Peter. You look after yourself.

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Speaker 2: Peter Lyne and Professor Emeritus of Religion and History at

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Speaker 3: By this?

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Speaker 2: Come on? I mean, look, I don't want to be.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be dumping on anybody else's religion.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, I quite like the idea of a fifty story

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Speaker 2: Goodness. I don't know if you've been following. Look, I

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Speaker 2: Joe McKenna is with us out of Italy. Halo Joe,

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Speaker 2: good money, Heather. So, would you say the last thousand days,

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Speaker 2: which is obviously Maloney in office, have been the best

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Speaker 2: days of your life?

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Speaker 19: Well, Georgia Maloney, the Italian Prime Minister, might say that

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Speaker 19: it's been a harrowing, intense time for her, but I

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Speaker 19: think she's done a pretty good job because her popularity

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Speaker 19: really hasn't waivered that much. I was looking at her

447
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Speaker 19: party popularity. It's still quite strong at twenty eight percent.

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Speaker 19: She's almost in office now for three years. She's published

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Speaker 19: her biography and it's now available in English. It's called

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Speaker 19: I Am Georgia, and that's also an interesting look at

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Speaker 19: her life. She's had a very rough childhood, she's grown

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Speaker 19: up with a single mother, she's now a single mother,

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Speaker 19: and I think Italians seem to think she's doing a

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Speaker 19: pretty good job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are they basing that on. Well, I think.

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Speaker 19: The fact that their stability is a great thing in

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Speaker 19: her favor. She's managed to hold together a government coalition.

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Speaker 19: They love the fact that she got rid of government

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Speaker 19: subsidies for unemployed citizens and what was called the super Bonus,

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Speaker 19: which was a tax benefit for home renovations that boosted

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Speaker 19: the economy, but it also boosted the government debt. So

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Speaker 19: she got rid of things like that and people saw

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Speaker 19: that as a great.

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Speaker 2: Move, a tough gesture.

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Speaker 19: But of course now she has to negotiate the tariffs

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Speaker 19: with the US President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine people are going to be thrilled about

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Speaker 2: the idea though, that ten thousand prisoners get released.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I think that's also a very controversial issue for this government.

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Speaker 19: The Justice Ministry said that it might release up to

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Speaker 19: ten thousand people from prison. A lot of controversy here

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Speaker 19: about overcrowded prisons. The rate seems to be one of the.

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Speaker 2: Worst in Europe.

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Speaker 19: A level of occupancy of around one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 19: two percent, which means there are a lot of prisoners

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Speaker 19: with not a lot of space in there. So I

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Speaker 19: think it's going to be a controversial issue if they

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Speaker 19: do allow serious offenders out. They say that they won't,

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Speaker 19: but let's wait and see, and I don't think it's

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Speaker 19: going to happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what's port Afino actually doing.

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Speaker 19: Port Afino is one of visually's most exclusive resort towns,

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Speaker 19: very popular with the ips and Hollywood stars. It seems

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Speaker 19: like every summer they introduce a new move to stop

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Speaker 19: people from having a good time. It's now forbidden to

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Speaker 19: walk around barefoot, shirtless or in swimsuits. You're not allowed

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Speaker 19: to beg camp or drink alcohol on the street. It's

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Speaker 19: not a lot of fun, is it. They say that

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Speaker 19: it's important to introduce these prohibitions to make it easier

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Speaker 19: for everybody.

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Speaker 2: But then on the other hand, okase, so hating the tourists,

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Speaker 2: but then also trying to protect the tourists from the pickpockets. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 19: This is a big issue, as many New Zealanders will

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Speaker 19: know if they've traveled to Italy. Many of the big

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Speaker 19: tourist hotspots like Rome, Venice, Milan Naples are targeting the pickpockets.

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Speaker 19: The mayors want tougher laws, national laws to stop them

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Speaker 19: from recruiting the young kids under the age of fourteen.

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Speaker 19: Now they do that to try and escape prosecution because

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Speaker 19: the younger ones have are less likely to be ending

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Speaker 19: up in jail or prosecuted in the courts, and the

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Speaker 19: mayors want to do something about that to clamp down

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Speaker 19: on these pickpockets, which are having a bit of a

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Speaker 19: field day at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and have for such a long time. Joe, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, appreciate it, Joe Head, Italy correspondent. So

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Speaker 2: governments decided, thank the Good Lord for that, to kill

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Speaker 2: the open open plan classroom thing that we've been doing

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Speaker 2: for unknown reasons. We have been persisting with this ridiculous idea,

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Speaker 2: and they've decided we're going to go back to the

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Speaker 2: single classrooms like the old days. Shirley Boys High has

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Speaker 2: already done this. Now Shirley Boy's High. Was am I

514
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Speaker 2: overstating it to say they're wanted the poster child children

515
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Speaker 2: of this, but I feel like they were back in

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen being damaged by the earth quake and they've

517
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Speaker 2: got the rebuild going in twenty nineteen, and the Ministry

518
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Speaker 2: of Education said, if we're going to do it, let's

519
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Speaker 2: do the open planet and went ahead with it because

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Speaker 2: the Ministry of Education was shoving it down everybody's throat.

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Speaker 2: Did it for six years and then we're like, hm,

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Speaker 2: this is not working. They asked, They asked the kids.

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Speaker 2: They did like a bit of a survey of kids

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Speaker 2: and teachers and parents, and everybody hated it so overwhelmingly

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Speaker 2: that they decided to put the walls back up, and

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Speaker 2: it cost them a small fortune for a school. Eight

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money. Immediate results,

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Speaker 2: hugely positive feedback, said the principal staff. On the first day,

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Speaker 2: absolutely thrilled. One of our teachers was hugging the walls

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Speaker 2: in her classroom because she was so thrilled to have wolves.

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Speaker 2: The boys are just much happier going to speak to

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Speaker 2: that principle after seven o'clock. I mean, who would have

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Speaker 2: thought that silence promotes concentration to hang on?

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Speaker 7: When I was in Space five at Fendlton Primary in

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Speaker 7: the seventies, when Robert Muldoon was Prime Minister. Yes, whose

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Speaker 7: fault was that that I was in an open planning classroom.

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Speaker 2: Then well, the Ministry of Education, because everything is the

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Education's fault, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: So I'm just trying to figure out which bit of

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Speaker 7: the past we're going back to. Obviously you won't know how.

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Speaker 2: Old school this is. Oh, this is pre glen Old School,

542
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Speaker 2: this is nineteen fifties, this is this is the good days,

543
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Speaker 2: the healcion days of Winston Peter's type.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 7: So we're going to be giving people the strap again.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to make make New Zealand education system

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Speaker 2: great again. Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Vida Retirement Communities News Dogs head be.

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Speaker 2: Heather, We've just pulled our two girls out of an

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Speaker 2: open planned school. Was so relieved with our decision, even

552
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Speaker 2: had teachers at the school we were leaving telling us

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Speaker 2: we've made the right choice. We are now at a

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Speaker 2: private school, but it's money well spent, Heather. I just

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Speaker 2: want to clarify for people that open planned schools are

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Speaker 2: nothing new. I taught in one in nineteen seventy seven

557
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Speaker 2: and I couldn't wait to leave because it was it

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Speaker 2: was absolute chaos Back then probably teaching Glenn actually six

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 7: I think that's more related to me than I thought,

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Speaker 7: so robably, all.

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Speaker 3: The ins and the outs, it's the fiz with.

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Speaker 1: Business fiber, take your business productivity to.

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Speaker 3: The next level.

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Speaker 2: Hey, here's a quick look at our real estate market

566
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Speaker 2: and who's buying thanks to the cotality buyer classification data

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Speaker 2: for June. Over the last three months to June I

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Speaker 2: EQ two, the trends that we were seeing in Q

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Speaker 2: one have mostly stuck. First home buyers make up twenty

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Speaker 2: six percent of property purchases in Q two, so that

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Speaker 2: is staying at around our record high levels, which is

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Speaker 2: brilliant for them. It's actually our major cities leading the

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Speaker 2: way for the first home buyers as well. In Wellington,

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Speaker 2: thirty six percent of all homes bought in Q two

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Speaker 2: were by first home buyers. That's despite Wellington's exorbitant prices

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Speaker 2: historically Hamilton thirty two percent, Auckland twenty nine percent, christ

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Speaker 2: Church and Dunedin twenty seven percent. So who make up

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Speaker 2: the rest of the buyers will MPOs are back on

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Speaker 2: the rise. That's mortgaged multiple property owners. They bought twenty

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Speaker 2: three percent of homes in Q two, which is up

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Speaker 2: slightly on Q one and just behind the long term

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Speaker 2: average of twenty five percent. And looking at the MPOs,

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Speaker 2: it's those with a portfolio of less fewer than four

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Speaker 2: properties that are contributing the most to the rise. That's

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Speaker 2: the category where typically the mum and dad investors sit,

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Speaker 2: those who buy a home for their kids, so technically

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Speaker 2: it's on their housing portfolio. How good is that? Brilliant news.

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Speaker 2: Just a quick update on Emma Walt Watson. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why I'm telling you this. I think it's because

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that Emma's a bad person. Well sort of.

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Speaker 2: She's the one who played Hermione Granger in the Harry

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Speaker 2: Potter films. She's lost her license for six months because

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Speaker 2: she was speeding, got herself a Blue Houdy, went too

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Speaker 2: fast driving around Oxford. She's driving around Oxford. That's how

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Speaker 2: many demerit points she already had, so then she got

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Speaker 2: another demerit point, then took the license off her. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: she's driving around in Oxford because, just like in the movie,

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Speaker 2: she's very clever. She's doing a master's degree in creative writing.

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Speaker 2: Well done her. Now, Chris Bishop, so he turns up

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Speaker 2: at the local geeze. That looked uncomfortable. I mean imagine

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Speaker 2: going to somebody's conference and then just standing on the

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Speaker 2: stage and telling them are crappy. They are, But this

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Speaker 2: is what the Nats are not afraid of doing this

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Second year in a row, they've gone

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Speaker 2: hard on these guys. So Chris Bishop goes to the

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Speaker 2: Council yesterday the Council's conference yesterday, gave a speech. He

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Speaker 2: says to them, we are getting our house in order.

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Speaker 2: It's time you saw to jaws out. It's okay to

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Speaker 2: build a local road without spending hundreds of thousands on artworks.

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Speaker 2: Not everything you do has to be an architectural masterpiece.

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Speaker 2: The only awards that your project should be winning up

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Speaker 2: for cost, efficiency and effectiveness. The time for excuses is over.

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Speaker 2: The culture of yes starts now. They did not love it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think one of them might have piped

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Speaker 2: up and given them a bit of lip over that.

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Speaker 2: But we love it and that's what matters right where

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Speaker 2: the people paying their bills, paying the rates. And I

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Speaker 2: loved hearing that. Anyway, we're going to talk about that

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Speaker 2: after seven. Also Sunny Koschel, he runs the Crime Advisory

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Speaker 2: Group for the counts, for the government. It is costing.

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Speaker 2: It's been around one hundred days, cost us half a

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Speaker 2: million dollars already. He will explain soon. News Talk zb.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Now,

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Speaker 1: Keath Duple, see Allen on the Mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the land Rover, Discovery Never Stop Discovering, News Togs dead b.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. In another education revent, the government's

627
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Speaker 2: announced open plan classrooms are gone and we're going back

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Speaker 2: to single classes. At Cheerley Boys High School, they spent

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Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand dollars changing their open plan spaces back

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Speaker 2: to single cell rooms after poor performance. And Tim Grocott

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Speaker 2: is the headmaster and with us now morning.

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Speaker 13: Tim, oh, good morning here that.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't it work for you guys?

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Speaker 13: I think for us we just found the distractions were

635
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Speaker 13: too great. It was too noisy, too much going on.

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Speaker 13: Boys struggle to focus on the learning that was in

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Speaker 13: front of them, and our teachers just found the same. Basically,

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Speaker 13: it was hard to keep the boys engage in those areas.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen a turnaround since you put the walls

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Speaker 2: back up? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, people are just much happier you know, we we

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Speaker 13: haven't had enough of an opportunity to sort of measure achievement,

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Speaker 13: but certainly we're seeing some really good engagement from the

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Speaker 13: boys and people just really happy to be in spaces.

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Speaker 13: Our teachers have just been able to set up their

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Speaker 13: own rooms. I've got a bit of ownership over their space,

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Speaker 13: look after it better. All of those sorts of things

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Speaker 13: have been really good, along with really positive teaching, the

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Speaker 13: student relationships, you know, which is really key for us

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Speaker 13: in the Boys school.

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Speaker 2: I see that some schools are not entirely happy with this.

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Speaker 2: They still want some flexibility. They want to be able

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Speaker 2: to have the open plan. Why would a school want

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Speaker 2: open plan at all?

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Speaker 13: Look, I'm not one hundred percent sure why that would be.

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Speaker 13: I guess that the flexibility of how you use spaces

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Speaker 13: and doing different things. I guess that's what they're looking for.

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Speaker 13: If I think about our context, you know, we're a

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Speaker 13: secondary school. We teach individual subjects. Therefore, having individual rooms

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Speaker 13: to teach in is with one teacher, that's absolutely crucial

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Speaker 13: and for us, particularly with the way the curriculum is developing,

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Speaker 13: that's going to be even more crucial. So that for us,

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Speaker 13: that was just an absolute no brainer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know that boys really really need to concentrate.

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Speaker 2: Is it different at co ed schools and girls schools.

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Speaker 13: In terms of the classrooms?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: How look, there will be a max I mean christ

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Speaker 13: Chuch is probably different because of the christ Church rebuilt.

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Speaker 13: There will be a mixture of spaces. But for schools

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Speaker 13: that were designed and built around that twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 13: twenty seventeen period, most of those schools will have elements

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Speaker 13: of modern learning.

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Speaker 2: What I was asking Tim, is it I know that

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Speaker 2: boys need a single classroom to concentrate, right, They really

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Speaker 2: need to be able to not be distracted. What about girls?

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Speaker 13: I think probably there is a difference, a slight difference,

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Speaker 13: but a difference between the way that boys and girls learn.

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Speaker 13: I think that in the teenage years, the girls certainly

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Speaker 13: have that stronger ability to concentrate and to focus on

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Speaker 13: the task in front of them. Boys need far more structure.

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Speaker 13: Girls are able to learn better independently, And what we're

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Speaker 13: finding is that the boy that structure that can be

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Speaker 13: provided in an individual room is really helpful. But having

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Speaker 13: said that that, there will be a mixed ride across

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Speaker 13: boys and girls. There will be girls who would be

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Speaker 13: loving being in individual spaces as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, Tim, really appreciate your time to look after yourself.

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Speaker 2: That's Tim Grocott, headmaster at Shirley Boys High School.

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Speaker 3: Heaver do for CELA.

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Speaker 2: Government has ordered counsels to stop working on their regional plans.

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Speaker 2: They say it is pointless given that the plans are

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Speaker 2: being made under the current ROMA and the RMA is

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Speaker 2: about to be rewritten. Janet Campbell is the chair of

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Speaker 2: the RMA Expert Advisory Group. Morning Jeanette, Good morning, Heather. Now,

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Speaker 2: I know it's going to likely vary from council to counsel,

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Speaker 2: but on average, how much of a council's work is

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Speaker 2: wrapped up and designing the plan and then holding the

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Speaker 2: hearings and so on.

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Speaker 20: Oh, there's a very large workload that councils hold to

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Speaker 20: advance plans. So this will remove a lot of unnecessary

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Speaker 20: work from council's books.

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Speaker 2: What would you reckon ten percent, thirty fifty percent?

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Speaker 20: Oh I'm not one hundred percent sure, Heather, but my

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Speaker 20: gut feeling would be that it would be at least

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Speaker 20: fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Really okay, Well, in which case we're going to

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Speaker 2: have people sitting around like a lot of people sitting

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Speaker 2: around potentially twiddling their thumbs for the next couple of years,

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Speaker 2: aren't they.

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Speaker 20: No doubt that very much. We've got a reform coming

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Speaker 20: that's going to require a lot of work from councils.

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Speaker 20: It's going to be a big job to get ready

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Speaker 20: for and implement the new system that is coming. And

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Speaker 20: I think councils will certainly not be twiddling their thumbs.

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Speaker 20: They'll be doing a lot of thinking and work.

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Speaker 2: Are you into the idea of having twenty zones that

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Speaker 2: are used around the country and councils can pick from

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Speaker 2: one of those zones?

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Speaker 20: Look, I love the Minister's optimism about twenty zones. I'm

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Speaker 20: not sure whether we can pull it off, at least

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Speaker 20: perhaps not in one hit we've got I can't remember

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Speaker 20: the number, but over a thousand at the moment, and

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Speaker 20: that certainly can.

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Speaker 15: Be very much reduced.

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Speaker 20: I'd love to see twenty zones or something really close

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Speaker 20: to it.

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Speaker 2: Ye, why can't we have as few as twenty zones?

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Speaker 20: Oh, maybe I'm just unambitious this early in the morning, Heather,

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Speaker 20: It just I don't know.

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Speaker 15: We did have a big reduction.

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Speaker 20: In zones when we had the Auckland Supercity come together

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Speaker 20: and we had a lot of wrangling over, for example,

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Speaker 20: different residential zones, and that I think has ultimately been

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Speaker 20: really successful in his really simplified things.

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Speaker 15: So maybe we will. Maybe I'm just not.

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Speaker 20: Yet, since he's not well caffeinated enough with you wanting to.

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Speaker 2: Get yourself a cup of coffee and start to feel

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Speaker 2: the vibes. Jeanette Campbell, RMA, Expert Advisory Group che If

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Speaker 2: you don't know what I'm talking about with the zones,

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Speaker 2: I will explain very shortly. Thirteen past seven ether do

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Speaker 2: for cels dart out this morning shows that if you

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Speaker 2: you've got a job, you're probably earning more than you

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Speaker 2: ever have. The national average salary is now seventy three thousand,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and twenty three. That's up one point five

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Speaker 2: percent on last year. Wellington is Water Surprize given the

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Speaker 2: public Service. The highest paid region average salary seventy six,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty one, so that's about three three, yeah,

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Speaker 2: three thousand more than the average. All regions have been

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Speaker 2: pretty flat or going up in terms of their salaries,

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Speaker 2: except for Taranaki which went down. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for work, you are fighting over some

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Speaker 2: of the lowest number of listings ever. Job listings on

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Speaker 2: trade me in the quarter were down seventeen point seven

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Speaker 2: percent year on year. That's for every region that experienced

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Speaker 2: Every region experienced a decrease worse than the main centers,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the CBDs. Auckland went down five point eight,

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Speaker 2: Wellington down two point seven, Canterbury down two point three.

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Speaker 2: It was Hawke's Bay though, that went down the biggest,

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Speaker 2: biggest decrease thirty six percent decrease in listings. This is

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Speaker 2: the second lowest number of job listings on trade me

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Speaker 2: ever recorded. Basically, what it means is if you score

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Speaker 2: a job, you're going to be earning more than ever.

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Speaker 2: But good luck scoring one.

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Speaker 2: There is a rumor from across the ditch that RTS

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Speaker 2: is going to sign with the Saudi Rugby League and

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Speaker 2: that he is going to double his pay packet. He's

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Speaker 2: paid about five fifty or something like that, five hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars by the Warriors. But if he

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Speaker 2: goes over to the saudis it might be over a million.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk to the foot and he's

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Speaker 2: not the only league player they're targeting. Apparently, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to for m keew. He's captain Richie Barnett. Closer to

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock, it's seventeen past seven. Now there's a bit

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Speaker 2: of heat on the government's Retail Crime Advisory Group, you know,

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Speaker 2: the outfit. It's made up of the retailers who are

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Speaker 2: giving the government ideas on how to tackle the crime

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Speaker 2: that's going on in the stores. Turns out the group

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Speaker 2: has existed for one hundred days and it's cost the

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Speaker 2: taxpayers around five hundred thousand dollars. Sunny Caucil is the

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Speaker 2: chair of the group with us.

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Speaker 18: Now morning Sonny, Really good morning head Now.

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Speaker 2: Sunny, this is a lot of money for one hundred days,

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Speaker 2: isn't it, Heather.

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Speaker 18: Actually, we are under budget.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 18: The great thing about our group is that we are

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Speaker 18: funded out of the Pursuits of Crime Fund. That means

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Speaker 18: we are funded by the money seized from the criminals

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Speaker 18: and gangs. So we are spending day money.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 18: Our group Minstial Advisory Groups of budget for the full

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Speaker 18: year is one point eight million dollars. So we are

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Speaker 18: we are we are truly under budget. You know, year ending,

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Speaker 18: we have under spent and saved over three hundred and

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Speaker 18: sixty one thousand dollars, so we are well under budget.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, if you if you spend every month

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Speaker 2: at the rate that you're spending at the moment, you

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Speaker 2: will come over budget because it will hit it will

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Speaker 2: hit two million when your budget is one point eight.

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Speaker 2: But let's have a look at what this money spent on.

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Speaker 2: Personnel costs of what three hundred and thirty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: what's that?

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Speaker 18: So the majority of our costs come from the team

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Speaker 18: of legal policy and policy experts have engaged and we

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Speaker 18: need to deliver evidence based and professional advice. If we

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Speaker 18: have uh, we are going to get the government to

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Speaker 18: listen to our proposal. And I'm really part of the

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Speaker 18: rook that we done.

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Speaker 2: Who are these people?

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Speaker 18: So the people are the the legal team, the the

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Speaker 18: the policy people. Yeah, so we have to you know,

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Speaker 18: we have to deliver the proposals which are evidence based,

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Speaker 18: which are independent, well, which are international.

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Speaker 2: Part Here's the thing. We pay people already in various

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Speaker 2: departments and minister's officers to be these policy people. So

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Speaker 2: which policy people are you paying?

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Speaker 18: This is for the Ministry Advisory group we have. We

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Speaker 18: have a separate entity, you know. Otherwise no need to

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Speaker 18: set up a ministerial advisory group if the existing agencies

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Speaker 18: and all were able to deliver what we have deliving.

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Speaker 18: Now you know we we are you have see this

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Speaker 18: is the Administry has said the this Mistrial Advisory Group

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Speaker 18: is the most productive group in New Zealand history.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're getting off a bit off track here.

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Speaker 2: The question was who are these people? Can you tell?

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Speaker 2: Can you give me a name?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, not the names, you know. I mean we have

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Speaker 18: the the policy manager, we have the policy team you

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Speaker 18: know who go into those policies. They're experts in their

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Speaker 18: various fields, like the criminal law specialists. And then we

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Speaker 18: have the the consultants.

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Speaker 2: Sonny, I love your ideas, and I think your ideas

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Speaker 2: are good, but they are ideas that have been that

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Speaker 2: you have been pitching for a long time. I just

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Speaker 2: feel like this just feels like a money go around,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it. It's it's people just getting some easy coin.

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Speaker 18: No, Heather, I wouldn't agree on that one. This is

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Speaker 18: money well spent.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 18: A tail crime in New Zealand is costing two point

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Speaker 18: eight billion dollars. You know, shop listing itself is costing

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Speaker 18: New Zealanders one point four billion dollars annually. Then there's

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Speaker 18: a human cost to retail crime. These are the costs

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Speaker 18: I'm worried about. You know, if we have to deliver

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Speaker 18: the quality reports, if we have to get the law

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Speaker 18: change which have not been changed as old as from

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Speaker 18: one hundred and twenty seven years, we need to come

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Speaker 18: up with quality reports. And hither I encourage everyone to

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Speaker 18: look up the reports to see how comprehensive they are.

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Speaker 18: They're all available online.

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Speaker 2: Sonny, thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Sunny Corcial,

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Speaker 2: Chair of the Retail Crime Ministerial Advisory Group. It's not

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Speaker 2: nice to talk about people's pay packets, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to do it anyway, Sonny. Sonny has been paid ninety

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars I think, which is over one hundred days.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad because it's nine hundred dollars a day.

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Speaker 2: So and if you carry that on, that's three months pay.

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Speaker 2: You carry that on four times, three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year. Seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Erica is this government's MVP most Valuable player for once

887
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Speaker 2: again taking an inexplicably stupid thing that we were doing

888
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Speaker 2: in schools, ditching it and going back to common sense. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is something very close to my heart at the

890
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Speaker 2: moment because I have to make a decision in kind

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Speaker 2: school we send our son to. But it really isn't

893
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Speaker 2: a decision at all, because it's going to be the

894
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Speaker 2: one school in the area that has single classes instead

895
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Speaker 2: of open plan modern learning spaces. It is the school

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Speaker 2: that his best friend from KINDI is going to. It

897
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Speaker 2: is also the school that another parent I know has

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Speaker 2: just sent their child to, And all of us are

899
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Speaker 2: doing it for exactly the same reason, which is we

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Speaker 2: want to avoid those open planned learning spaces because we know,

901
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Speaker 2: like most parents do. I would say that if you

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Speaker 2: stick a hundred kids in a big room and tell

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Speaker 2: them to pay attention to the teacher in front of them,

904
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Speaker 2: they can't. They get distracted by the loud noises coming

905
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Speaker 2: from the other kids over there, or the TV over there,

906
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: or what the teacher is saying over there, or why

907
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: someone's laughing over there. There's just a hundred distractions all

908
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Speaker 2: the time. Why the Ministry of Education forced this on

909
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Speaker 2: schools will probably baf me for the rest of my

910
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Speaker 2: life because there's no logic to it. No one who

911
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Speaker 2: has kids, will spends time with kids, can really believe

912
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Speaker 2: that kids can concentrate and learn when there are a

913
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Speaker 2: hundred voices chirping around them. Which idiot came up with this?

914
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Speaker 2: I'd actually love to know. Just to settle me, I'll

915
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Speaker 2: tell you what the legacy of this government could well

916
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Speaker 2: be that it finally turns around. Are up to now

917
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: decades long decline in education stats with that ban on

918
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Speaker 2: phones in schools, with the hour a day of reading,

919
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Speaker 2: writing and maths, with the expectation that kids must pass

920
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Speaker 2: existing standards, and actually gives our kids a chance to

921
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Speaker 2: learn as well as other kids in any other developed

922
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Speaker 2: country like we used to. And if that happens, then

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Speaker 2: Erica Stanford, given how crucial education is to a country success,

924
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Speaker 2: Erica Stanford will remain as I see her, the MVP

925
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Speaker 2: of this government if not of the decade, if not

926
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Speaker 2: of her generation, I ever do for see have slightly

927
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Speaker 2: run out of time to deal with his zonees thing,

928
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Speaker 2: but I will do it with you shortly, can I

929
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Speaker 2: Is anybody else as surprise as I am to find

930
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Speaker 2: out that we don't have off peak pricing for the elector.

931
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Speaker 2: I thought if you put your dryer on it midday,

932
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Speaker 2: you're paying less than seven to nine. Apparently not anyway,

933
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to the Commerce Commission about that very shortly.

934
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Speaker 2: And Lockie Hayes. If you love country, the boy from

935
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Speaker 2: Tokanui might be something that you enjoy. He's with us

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Speaker 2: after eight.

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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

938
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Speaker 1: Heather duper Celent on the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

939
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Speaker 1: real Estate altogether better across residential, commercial, and rural news

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Speaker 1: talks head.

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Speaker 2: Be Hither the open playing classes is another experiment that's

942
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: cost the country hundreds of millions of dollars in cost

943
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: student learning, which is far worse. I'd agree that hither

944
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Speaker 2: the sunny Cocial deal does not sound like the best deal. No,

945
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: it does not at all sound like a fantastic deal.

946
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Speaker 2: I just I bristle at the idea that free. I

947
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Speaker 2: bristle at how we do this?

948
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Speaker 15: Right?

949
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Speaker 2: Free ideas are free? Why are you paying for them?

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Speaker 2: These were ideas that were around before. Anyway, Now zones,

951
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Speaker 2: let me quickly run you through this. So how this

952
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Speaker 2: works in this country is under the RMA. You've got

953
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Speaker 2: a bunch of zones, right, and the zones determine how

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Speaker 2: you build in each zone. Each zone has got its

955
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Speaker 2: own rules for how you build something or what you

956
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Speaker 2: do with resources or whatever. We have got one thousand

957
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Speaker 2: plus zones in New Zealand. In Japan, which is a

958
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Speaker 2: similar size and geography to ours and a population twenty

959
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Speaker 2: five times bigger, they have thirteen zones, thirteen versus our

960
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Speaker 2: one thousand plus. The idea is that we pick twenty

961
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Speaker 2: zones and then we say to councils, here's twenty zones.

962
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Speaker 2: You choose which one you want. You stick with? That

963
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Speaker 2: that sounds to me like a really good idea, much

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Speaker 2: less confusing, don't you think? Twenty two away from it?

965
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Speaker 15: Come back?

966
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Speaker 2: There are changes coming that might bring your power build down.

967
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Speaker 2: The electricity Authority is forcing big power companies to offer

968
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Speaker 2: cheaper prices at off peak times and also pay better

969
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Speaker 2: prices to solar users who feed power back into the grid. Now,

970
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Speaker 2: this comes after a report involving the COMMUS Commission. In

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Speaker 2: the chair of the ComCom Dottor John Smallers with us

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Speaker 2: Morning John, Good morning Heather. I was under the impression

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Speaker 2: that we pay less off peak. How is this not

974
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Speaker 2: the case.

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Speaker 6: Well, the wholesale market prices are cheaper off peak, but

976
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Speaker 6: retail prices are different. They're determined by what retailers offer.

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Speaker 6: And what this is really doing is saying all big

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Speaker 6: retailers have to offer plans that.

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Speaker 2: Look like this, okay, and how much less do they

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Speaker 2: need to charge us off peak?

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Speaker 6: That's not specified. It's just all of specified is that

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Speaker 6: every retailer has to have a plan that varies by

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Speaker 6: peak and off peak. And that's then obviously it's not

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Speaker 6: compulsory for people to use that. People will pick those

985
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Speaker 6: up if they want them. But the idea is that

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Speaker 6: they have to be offered.

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Speaker 2: But what if they do something tricky like they offer

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Speaker 2: it at two percent less or something like that.

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Speaker 6: The theory that is thelying this is essentially that they'll

990
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Speaker 6: they'll compete with each other and people will look across them.

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Speaker 6: You know, if If this doesn't work out as planned,

992
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Speaker 6: then obviously regulators have to think about what comes next.

993
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Speaker 6: But that's the basic idea. Give them an opportunity, make them,

994
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Speaker 6: make them compete in this way and see how it goes, and.

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Speaker 2: How much do you anticipate people will be able to.

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Speaker 6: Save we I don't have that modeling. The Outrist Authority

997
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Speaker 6: has some modeling of that. But look, it's just directionally

998
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Speaker 6: the right thing to do.

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Speaker 2: I think either I would agree with that totally. By

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Speaker 2: the way, how much are they going to pay the

1001
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Speaker 2: solar that the people who are feeding electricity back through

1002
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Speaker 2: their solar power.

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Speaker 6: Again, that's not that's a that's a principal based regulation

1004
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Speaker 6: that it has to be done. This one is actually

1005
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Speaker 6: running through the lines companies, so they're the ones who

1006
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Speaker 6: have to put a negative price through to the retailers

1007
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Speaker 6: were something gets passed on, So a little bit of

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Speaker 6: of supply chain there. But again the idea is you

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Speaker 6: have to do this because it is saving you capital,

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Speaker 6: so you must you must pay for it.

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Speaker 2: Listen on the supermarkets and the and the charges that

1012
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Speaker 2: were laid earlier this week, Can you explain what you

1013
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Speaker 2: guys are alleging happened between Gilmore's and the supplier.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I'll have yes.

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Speaker 15: Sure.

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Speaker 6: Look the supplier, uh And there's a supplier and a

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Speaker 6: customer and both of them have trade with first Us

1018
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Speaker 6: and Gilmore's. The the supplier and the customer struck a

1019
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Speaker 6: direct deal. So it was just you know, i'll sell

1020
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Speaker 6: directly to you. And and when Gilmores and bird Stars

1021
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Speaker 6: found out about that, they weren't very happy and they

1022
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Speaker 6: wanted the trade rooted through them. H And that's what

1023
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Speaker 6: ended up happening.

1024
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Speaker 2: Well, how did they manage to get what they want?

1025
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Speaker 6: They have ways of persuading people about these things.

1026
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Speaker 2: Did they threaten allegedly?

1027
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look that this will come out in court.

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Speaker 6: But the phrase have produced in the media release is persuaded.

1029
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Speaker 2: Okay, what what? Why did you use the phrase persuaded?

1030
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Speaker 2: I feel like there's more to the story, John.

1031
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 6: Oh, there is, but it's before it is. You know,

1032
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Speaker 6: it's a really interesting case. It's a very important case

1033
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Speaker 6: for us because you know, it's one where the interaction

1034
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Speaker 6: between supermarkets and suppliers is going to be ventilated. So

1035
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Speaker 6: it's a landmark case, but it is before the courts,

1036
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Speaker 6: and so you know, I think we'd better just let

1037
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Speaker 6: those facts converge at that point.

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Speaker 2: This is the allegation that has been made now by

1039
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Speaker 2: suppliers for some time, right that there is a lot

1040
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Speaker 2: of heavying going on by the supermarkets and so they

1041
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Speaker 2: basically have their businesses screwed. And would you say that

1042
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: if this is proven, This is what we're talking about.

1043
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Speaker 2: This is what the supply as a saying.

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Speaker 6: This is exactly what the suppliers have been saying to

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Speaker 6: us for a long time, and we've been we've long

1046
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Speaker 6: been concerned about it.

1047
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Speaker 2: And does it affect what I pay at the supermarket?

1048
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Speaker 6: Not this particular case, but in general it could do.

1049
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 21: Okay, so well, it's restriction of competition perfectly. So if

1050
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 21: this conduct was widespread, then it would be it would

1051
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Speaker 21: be restrictive.

1052
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Speaker 2: Okay, looking forward to seeing that hit the courts. Really

1053
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Speaker 2: appreciate your time, John. That's John Small, the Chair of

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Speaker 2: the Commerce Commission. Yesterday this time we were speaking to

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Speaker 2: Sonny Bill Williams. He was pretty he is feeling pretty

1056
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Speaker 2: cock I hope wasn't he he was?

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Speaker 15: You got it.

1058
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Speaker 2: He got smashed. Paul Gallon won the fight. To be fair,

1059
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Speaker 2: actually to say he got smashed is not fair because

1060
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Speaker 2: it was close. One judge gave it to Sonny Bill

1061
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Speaker 2: Williams seventy four to seventy seven. The other judge gave

1062
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Speaker 2: it to Gallon seventy four seventy seven, so at that

1063
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Speaker 2: point they matched. Third judge is the tiebreaker, gives it

1064
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Speaker 2: to Gallon seventy six to seventy five, one point difference.

1065
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: One point difference because in the seventh round, Sunny Bill

1066
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: Williams is doing a bit of clinching and that's what

1067
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Speaker 2: lost it for him.

1068
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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's just a man who hugs too much.

1069
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Speaker 2: Just is a lover, not a fighter. Sixteen away from

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Speaker 2: eight The Vice.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakers Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At Me, Heather, I have off peak power, Heather, I

1073
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: get fourteen cents from twenty what fourteen cents to twenty

1074
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Speaker 2: eighth fourteen cents to twenty eight percents per unit for

1075
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Speaker 2: peak power. Lord, how about just understanding how to read English? Heather,

1076
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: You're absolutely making steffup stuff up for sensationalism. Actually, by

1077
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Speaker 2: the way, on that to the various Texters who have

1078
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Speaker 2: over the last two weeks taken special time out of

1079
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Speaker 2: their day to text me to tell me that I'm

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Speaker 2: a know nothing bozo hoose. Interview with the Minister Scott

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Speaker 2: Simpson got quoted in the Banking Select Committee yesterday Heather diplicy.

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Speaker 5: Ellen, is it not the affected period rather than it's

1083
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Speaker 5: not over the life of the whole own it's just

1084
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Speaker 5: that period when the information is incorrect, Minister Simpson, No,

1085
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Speaker 5: who was right? Sadly this highlights a lack of understanding.

1086
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Speaker 5: The interviewer was right and the Minister was wrong.

1087
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Speaker 2: Just have that put on the record, right, Thanks, That's right.

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Speaker 2: It turns out I do know one thing about one

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Speaker 2: very technical thing, which is a piece of legislation that

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Speaker 2: may be retrospectively what I know. You're not interested, but hey,

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Speaker 2: listen by the way, if you are interested in this,

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00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: because this is important. What is going on here is

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00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: that the government is passing some legislation Scotsimson obviously passing

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Speaker 2: some legislation that will probably stop a case a class action.

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00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: The class action is being taken against two banks A

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Speaker 2: and Z and ASB because A, n Z and ASB

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00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: stuffed up some things and they owe people in this country.

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00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 2: They haven't actually ruined your life, but they have broken

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Speaker 2: the rules and so they are obliged to pay these

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Speaker 2: fines and the class actions coming after them for the fines.

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Speaker 2: Government's going, let's help the let's help those Aussie banks

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Speaker 2: out and stop the class action by passing the law.

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00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: And it's really weird and people people sort of people

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00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: can't quite understand why the government wants to do this,

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00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: because that law was there for a reason. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: Yesterda at the Select Committee, the new development on it

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Speaker 2: is that the plaintiffs have offered a settlement to the

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Speaker 2: banks of three hundred million dollars or thereabouts and the

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Speaker 2: banks have called a distunt and declined. Ever dopers Now,

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Speaker 2: I am pretty hot on having the social media band

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00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: for kids under the age of sixteen because it's rotting

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Speaker 2: their brains and I think it is. It is one

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00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: of the worst things that we're doing to them at

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Speaker 2: the moment. One of the strongest arguments against that is

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00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: that it is impossible to ban kids from that. You

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Speaker 2: cannot ban people from stuff on the Internet because you

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00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: cannot verify ages. Well, actually you can, and this has

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00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: been around for a long time. Reddit is now doing

1119
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: it in the UK because what's happened in the UK

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Speaker 2: is they have passed the law. They now require websites

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Speaker 2: showing mature content like pawn or whatever to verify ages

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Speaker 2: of people before people can look at it. So Reddit

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Speaker 2: has employed a third party. This group is co Persona,

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Speaker 2: and Persona is going to do the age checking for them. Basically,

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Speaker 2: if you want to use Reddit in the UK, you

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Speaker 2: go online, it sends you to Persona. You then show

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00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: Persona your selfie or a photo of your government ID

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Speaker 2: like passport or driver's license or whatever, and Persona then

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Speaker 2: goes yep, absolutely, Glenn is over the age of eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Glenn can look at the stuff Bengo. Then you go

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Speaker 2: back to Reddit. You've got the token verifying you as

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Speaker 2: being an adult, and you can use Reddit. Reddit never

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Speaker 2: gets to see your photo. They never get to hold

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Speaker 2: it because obviously there are security concerns around like Bozo's

1135
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: around Bozos, like Facebook having your details and then getting

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Speaker 2: hacked by somebody. Persona the third party only keeps it

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Speaker 2: for about seven days and then they get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: But you are verified, your on recorders having been verified,

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Speaker 2: and that is how you do it. It is totally plausible,

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Speaker 2: it is possible, and we can do it in this

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Speaker 2: country if.

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Speaker 7: We want to or even easier, just ban it completely

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Speaker 7: so nobody has it.

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Speaker 2: That's why he doesn't write the laws. Ten away from eight,

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Speaker 2: do you for see.

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00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Allen on the mic Husking Breakfast with the land Rover,

1147
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Discovery News Togs dead By.

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00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: Can you find out why the bank bill case is retrospective?

1149
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand the rationale for that, and I will

1150
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: refer you to the text from Connell here that the

1151
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: fines are ridiculously punitive. The banks found the error of themselves.

1152
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: They're compensated customers without any regulator involvement. That's why they

1153
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: just think it's too harsh. Six away from ete now

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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: there are reports from across the Tasman that Roger Tui

1155
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: Vasashek is on the verge of signing with Rugby's new

1156
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: Rebel three sixty R three sixty competition. The deal is

1157
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: said to be worth around a million dollars that is

1158
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: double what he's currently earning at the Warriors. Joining us

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Speaker 2: now is for mer Keiwei's captain Richie Barnett, Richie.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Eric.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you can double your income, it's a

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00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: slam dunk, isn't it?

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Speaker 17: Mad not too, wouldn't they yeah, thank complexity and of

1164
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 17: course the opportunities now for players to move even when

1165
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 17: they're contract that actually to get some I guess some

1166
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 17: benefit now and depending what age they are, they've got

1167
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,959
Speaker 17: options now to consider.

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Speaker 2: How much of a three toes this to the NRL,

1169
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: because there are about four players at least who have

1170
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Speaker 2: been approached apparently.

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Speaker 17: Massive, it's huge. It's something that they've always had to

1172
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Speaker 17: contend with. You look at Joseph Mona, you look at

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 17: Joseph Sale who's playing for the Australian rugby union team

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Speaker 17: at the moment. So there's always been there. It's been

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Speaker 17: there for a long while. But the money and the

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00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 17: consortiums that are coming up now it's just too big

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Speaker 17: a pull of money to say no to. And it's

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00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 17: another challenge that they face and always has bill and

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 17: they always will.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think the Saudis are coming after rugby

1181
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: league players rather than rugby union players.

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Speaker 17: I guess it's profile. You know that the profile of

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00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 17: players is extraordinary. And if you look at Roger and

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00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 17: you look at Joseph Sale and you look at they're

1185
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 17: also targeting the soft of Solomona. He's a rugby background

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Speaker 17: as well, so they're targeting people they've got a name,

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Speaker 17: but also they've also played rugby, which majority of my

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 17: cross code is anyway, So the opportunity to go and

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Speaker 17: play with a branded name who's been around is going

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Speaker 17: to be It's going to be interesting and challenging for

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Speaker 17: the NRL, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon that any of these players would be

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Speaker 2: put off by the fact that it's Saudi money.

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Speaker 17: I don't think so. Personally, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 17: know that's been branded around with Live golf and so

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Speaker 17: on where that money is actually coming from. But I

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Speaker 17: think ultimately they make their own decision and money talks,

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Speaker 17: I guess, yeah, hope as much as you can say

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Speaker 17: and go through all and be mindful of it all.

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Speaker 17: I think money talks, and it's a big it's a

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Speaker 17: big poor.

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Speaker 2: Hey I am. I'm kind of into this idea. I

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Speaker 2: don't mind them doing a rebel league.

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Speaker 17: What about you a ruble league. We had it with

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00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 17: Super League with the NRL and it's it worked for

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00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 17: a little while, but it's were and the same with

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00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 17: the golf. It's the same thing where it's pulling apart

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 17: international footy club football, so you're draining resources from New

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00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 17: Zealand and Australia, and that means it's going to impact

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Speaker 17: what's happening in this country as well. I know financially,

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00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 17: the news rugby union are under pressure, the game's falling

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 17: away from innovation in the eyes over the game. So

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Speaker 17: this is going to have a massive impact on what

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Speaker 17: that could look like in the next year or so.

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Speaker 2: Richie, good to talk to you. Enjoy your morning, Richie

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Speaker 2: Barnett for mc keewis captain. Do you know what I

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00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: would be into this if the Saudi's changed rugby rules? Right,

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00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: so they take rugby and then just change some of

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00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: the things that are really irritating to us, like the scrum.

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Speaker 2: Just get rid of the scrum. Why are we doing that?

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Speaker 2: I know rugby players love it, the rest of us

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Speaker 2: looking at it. Go it's just a weird thing that

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Speaker 2: you're doing. Anyway, This is lockey, Lockie Hayes. If you

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Speaker 2: love the Blues, if you love the country, if you

1225
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: love the Bob Dylan, you might love him. He's with us. Next, what.

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Speaker 3: The news and the news makers?

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupericy Hellen on them, casking Breakfast with Avida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News dogs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be Septcast eight. Our latest musical talent comes to us

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Speaker 2: from the Catlan's not something you can say very often,

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01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: is it. Lockie Hayes has been in the music game

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: for over a decade now, started with a couple of EPs,

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: then an album based on the live performance. He finds

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01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: a lot of inspiration from Bob Dylan, which you can

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Speaker 2: actually hear in his music. He's got out his sophomore album.

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Speaker 2: It's called sub Satellite. It's a mix of old country,

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01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: blues and soul. And Locke has is.

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Speaker 3: With me now Morning Lockey, Good morning.

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Speaker 15: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Oh man, I've got to

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: talk to you about Delaney Davidson. How did you find

1242
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: working with him?

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Speaker 15: Oh? Delaney is like he's a mixture of an enigma

1244
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 15: and a chameleon, and you can't always tell if he's

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01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 15: joking or not. But it was a hell of an

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 15: experience anyway. I learned a lot.

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Speaker 2: Did you learn a lot from him? Because he is

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Speaker 2: I mean, he makes some beautiful music, doesn't he.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, he's really incredible to watch work. You can sort

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01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 15: of see he's got this calculating way of hearing the

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01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 15: music and you can almost get the sense that there's

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 15: these cogs turning in his head every second of the

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01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 15: day thinking about it. And then he will go in

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Speaker 15: the studio do some things, make some noises, and you'll

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01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 15: think what is he doing? And then when he plays

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Speaker 15: it back to you, you're like, oh wow, how did

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 15: you hear that in your head before you before you

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Speaker 15: went in the studio. It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Where were you based? Are you based in Vicargo?

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Speaker 15: I'm actually based in a small town out of in

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Speaker 15: the Cargo called Wyndham. I'm a school teacher here and yeah,

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Speaker 15: so so yeah, some of the some of the morning

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Speaker 15: chat has been interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well do you want to wear all the

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: open playing classes?

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Speaker 15: Then I don't know if I want to weigh in

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Speaker 15: on it too much. Yeah, tell me the.

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Speaker 2: Reason I ask you? Asked you where you're based? As

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Speaker 2: obviously Delaney comes from Littleton, right, They've got a fantastic

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Speaker 2: little country music scene going on there.

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Speaker 15: What about Wyndham, Well, Whindom's pretty close to Gore, So

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Speaker 15: country music's pretty big around these parts, to be honest.

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Speaker 15: It's one of those It's a strange thing because country

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01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 15: music was very much the music of my grandparents' generation,

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01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 15: and then popular music came along. My parents' generation was

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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 15: more into popular music. But the young people now, and

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Speaker 15: a lot of the students I see coming up through school,

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 15: are just mad about country music. It seems to be

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Speaker 15: the biggest thing. I really can't put my finger on it,

1280
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Speaker 15: but I guess when you're living in rural New Zealand

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Speaker 15: and your aspirations are to drive directors, and the really

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01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 15: America and the country music would speak to you.

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01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, I would agree with you,

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01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: and I think you're onto something. But I would agree

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: with you that if it was just a country thing.

1286
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: But it's not just a country thing, is it. I mean,

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01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: city kids are loving it as well. Is it maybe

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: that we've got over the vacuousness of pop music and

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01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: we're looking for something a little bit more deep and layered.

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Speaker 15: Well, I would sure hope so, to be honest with you,

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01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 15: that I would think that would be that would be

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 15: a gift from God if we could get over any

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 15: vacuous kind of popular music setting. I do know that

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Speaker 15: kids don't care as much about the chats anymore. That

1295
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 15: seems to be something that I notice they seem to

1296
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 15: just pick up on what their friends listen to, what

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Speaker 15: their parents listen to, what they've heard on a movie,

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Speaker 15: what they've heard somewhere else where. As it used to be,

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Speaker 15: you could say, what's number one in the chats? Now,

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Speaker 15: you know, we all used to listen to top forty

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01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 15: and wait to hear the number one. They don't seem

1302
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 15: to care so much about that anymore. So perhaps you're.

1303
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: Right the age of Spotify, Lockie where once you? Because

1304
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean the thing about radio versus Spotify, obviously is

1305
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: radio gives you what it thinks you should hear, but

1306
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: Spotify gives you more of what you already like. So

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01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: if you're liking a country song, that starts to feed

1308
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: you more and it just opens up this world to you.

1309
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, you do get really sort of lost down that

1310
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 15: rabbit hole on Spotify, don't.

1311
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: It's a good rabbit hole the way, not a bad one.

1312
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 15: It's fantastic.

1313
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Now, is that you playing harmonica on your album?

1314
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 15: Yeah? Yeah, that's me playing harmonica.

1315
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: On the area Going to play harmonica like that, Locky,

1316
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: because you sound like like a sixty year old man

1317
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: sitting around a campfire.

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Speaker 15: Well, as you mentioned, I'm from the Catlands. I grew

1319
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 15: up in the Catlands and it's pretty dark and rainy

1320
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 15: and there's not a lot to really do. And my

1321
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 15: parents are both musicians, and my grandparents are musicians. So

1322
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,479
Speaker 15: there was kind of this, you play us a tune

1323
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 15: and you don't have to go to bed right now?

1324
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 15: Ye do that to you in a way in a sense. Yeah,

1325
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 15: there was a lot of I'm from quite a big

1326
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 15: extended family as well, but there was a lot of

1327
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 15: gatherings and there was a lot of just tunes and

1328
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 15: sing alongs around a few drinks, and so there was

1329
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 15: a lot of you come and your song now, you know,

1330
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 15: And harmonica is quite a It's an economical instrument because

1331
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 15: it can fit in your pocket, right, So you give

1332
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 15: it to a little kid, which was me, and say,

1333
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,479
Speaker 15: you're going to play along with us when we play

1334
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 15: these old country songs.

1335
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: Do you like as a musician?

1336
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 15: Now?

1337
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: Do you really love your parents for that? Because they

1338
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: must have listened to some god awful harmonica playing from

1339
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: you while they were trying to play their song.

1340
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm sure they. I'm sure they did. They must have.

1341
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 15: I do often think how patient they must have been

1342
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 15: with teaching all of my I've got four siblings as well,

1343
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 15: and we all sort of play an instrument to some degree,

1344
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 15: so they must have been pretty patient.

1345
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, how long do you reckon? You got to like,

1346
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: how long did you extend your bed time by?

1347
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 15: Well, indefinitely, I think sometimes.

1348
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my goodness, your parents are good people. Locky,

1349
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: stay there. I want to come back and talk to

1350
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: you and just to take us Locky Hayes, thirteen past

1351
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: eight the.

1352
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio howard By

1353
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: News Talk.

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: Quarter past eight. You're back with LOCKEYE Hayes on his

1355
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: second album, sub Satellite Lockey. I have got a text

1356
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: from Jamie McKay that says, asked Lockey about his dad's

1357
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: rugby exploits.

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 15: Okay, my dad's rugby exploits. Yeah, he Well, my dad

1359
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 15: was a self and representative in the nineties for the rugby.

1360
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 15: Is sort of a weird part of my family. Not

1361
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 15: that I play rugby. I was never any good at it,

1362
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 15: but yeah, my father represented South on, as did my grandfather,

1363
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 15: and my auntie and my sister have all represented South

1364
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 15: on the rugby and my auntie, Carol Hayes, was one

1365
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 15: of the original Black Friends, so it's a weird sort

1366
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 15: of rugby link in the family.

1367
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Speaker 2: You guys are just a family of overachievers, aren't you.

1368
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: And then as well as so your your dad's a

1369
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: farmer and he's playing rugby for Southland. And then you

1370
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: also say your dad, your parents used to drag you

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: around to gigs? Were they playing gigs?

1372
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1373
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, they were in a sort of a bit of

1374
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 15: a southern institution in the day, was their bluegrassy country

1375
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 15: men called the Progress Valley Possum Tiggers, which is a

1376
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 15: name and a name in a heart.

1377
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: That's a good name. And so what they would take you?

1378
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: Where would they play gigs? I mean there's it's not

1379
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: as if you're living in the middle of a city

1380
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: where you could just go to any number of venues.

1381
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 15: Well they believe it or not, they played a lot

1382
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 15: of woolsheds. Woolshed parties were a big thing. So we

1383
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 15: were dragged along to a lot of wolf sheheds and

1384
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 15: a lot of pubs, a lot of rural pubs. Yeah.

1385
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: And what do you do now? Where do you tour?

1386
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 15: If you tour, well, anywhere and everywhere that we can.

1387
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 15: We obviously traveling is a big part of it. You've

1388
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 15: got to get used to traveling if you want to

1389
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 15: live in a rural community and perform places. But I mean,

1390
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 15: we've got a lot of good venues in central Otago,

1391
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 15: Dunedin and the cargo's coming along now with some really

1392
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 15: good venues. So it just means a few hours driving.

1393
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: And what about because you've got a family, haven't you?

1395
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

1396
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 11: I do.

1397
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 2: How do you do that with kids?

1398
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 15: Well, very patiently and we tray a best.

1399
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: Do you take them along? Do you schlep them along

1400
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: to the pub with you?

1401
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 15: Well? Sometimes? But the I guess the culture around them

1402
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 15: has changed, do we But we used to be dragged

1403
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 15: as children to pubs without people betting an eye. But

1404
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 15: I think now nowadays people give you a bit of

1405
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 15: a sideways eye if you if you're dragging your kids

1406
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 15: everywhere like that.

1407
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to ask you. I've been thinking the

1408
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: last few days. Have you heard of this band called

1409
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: the Velvet Sundown.

1410
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 15: The Velvet Sundown is somebody mentioned this to me the

1411
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 15: other day. I still I've never heard them.

1412
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: They Okay, so they're actually not a band. They're AI

1413
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: and they do music that's a little bit sort of

1414
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies folk. Well, I mean, obviously they'll be like

1415
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: a musical director, there'll be a human behind it. But

1416
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: they do nineteen seventies folk music, it wouldn't. It's a

1417
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: bit CCR, you know, bit credence. And what I'm finding

1418
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: really weird about it is that I don't hate it.

1419
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: I actually kind of like it. Should I be ashamed

1420
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: of myself? Do you worry about the AI?

1421
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 15: I don't really worry about it too much. I did.

1422
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 15: I think I read an article about them. The guy

1423
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 15: said it was kind of a prank, right, Yeah, Well,

1424
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 15: I pilfer and steal from all the pop culture I can,

1425
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 15: and I'm a big fan of hip hop and how

1426
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 15: they sample music. They steal sort of wesections from other

1427
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 15: songs and turn it into something new. I mean, if

1428
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 15: I were to stick my neck out and say that

1429
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 15: people using AI technology is just awful, you know, how

1430
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 15: far back do I have to go before I'm then going, Well,

1431
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 15: I'm stealing music from basically from America, from a long

1432
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 15: and rich lineage in history that I have nothing.

1433
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 8: To do with.

1434
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 15: So how far back am I going to go before

1435
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 15: I have to look at myself and go Yeah? Well,

1436
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 15: you're not much better.

1437
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is true. I'm comforting myself with the idea

1438
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: that AI cannot be creative, right, AI just takes what

1439
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 2: we're already doing and then replicate it, kind of a

1440
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: copy of it. Whereas if you really want something completely

1441
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: different and never been done before, it's only a human

1442
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: that can come up with that.

1443
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 15: A Well, yeah, AO is not actually alive, you know,

1444
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 15: we sort of we talk about it as this living thing,

1445
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 15: but it's it's just a language model and and a

1446
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 15: little computer, isn't it.

1447
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, By the way, what do you teach?

1448
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 15: I'm actually a primary school teacher. Well, I teach it

1449
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 15: an intermediate school called Menzies College, But so I teach

1450
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 15: the U seven students, so that I always had the

1451
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 15: three hours the reading, writing, arithmetic.

1452
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 2: Is it working? Is the hour a day working?

1453
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Is that? Sorry?

1454
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: The hour a day of reading, writing and maths working?

1455
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1456
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: You back to politics?

1457
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 15: Sorry, that's all right, it's fun. I would say we're

1458
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 15: doing our best as well in that in that area. Yeah. Good.

1459
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, what's the plan. You've done? You've done some EPs,

1460
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: you've done a couple of albums. Now you're touring. Where

1461
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: do you want to take this.

1462
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 15: Well, you know, as always the way with people creating artists,

1463
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 15: just to keep doing it and hopefully, you know, put

1464
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 15: it out there and if people like it, they like

1465
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 15: it and that's great. And if they don't, well who cares.

1466
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 15: I'm going to keep creating it. So pretty going to

1467
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 15: be there.

1468
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lockie, thank you for your time. It's been absolutely

1469
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: lovely to talk to you, and best of luck with everything.

1470
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: Blockie Hayes KIWI singer Heather. I love listening to the

1471
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 2: interview with Lockey. The Hayes family was part of the

1472
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: Possum Pickers played at a local fundraiser. They were supposed

1473
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: to plans for one am, but they were having such

1474
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: a great time they played till four am. Fantastic night here.

1475
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: I am thank you. Su sad, so sad and such

1476
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: sad light.

1477
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:08,480
Speaker 15: Sad, sad, sad.

1478
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 8: Sad.

1479
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,879
Speaker 3: Hither dupery Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

1480
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: Real Estate News Dogs, they'd be.

1481
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's loving Lockie.

1482
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: Heather.

1483
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: What an amazing young man and he teaches. How lucky

1484
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: are those kids in his class? Absolutely? I hope he

1485
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 2: does a bit of guitar stuff. Hey, there is a

1486
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: school in the UK which is in trouble because it

1487
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: had a cultural day and one of the kids turned up.

1488
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: One of the girls turned up basically dressed like Ginger

1489
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: Spice with a with a union jack dress and she

1490
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: was put into isolation for that was not okay. Rod

1491
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: Little will talk us through that when he's with us shortly.

1492
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: I've got to get you across this. Eight twenty five.

1493
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: There is a spat that is, there is a spat

1494
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: that is happening at the moment about campbell A bacter.

1495
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 2: So what's happened is that our dear friend Michael Baker

1496
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: is part of a group called the Public Health Communications Center,

1497
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: and they have released some figures today showing that that

1498
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: too many of us are getting sick with a Campbella bactor,

1499
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: which is what you find in the chicken, right, It's

1500
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: often in the chicken. And the number of us who've

1501
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: got infected in the last seventeen years has gone up

1502
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: by seventy percent, which they say is not good because

1503
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: they think the government is it fault for being complacent

1504
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: about Kampbella bacta. The Ministry for Primary Industries has hit

1505
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: back at them, not happy at all, is accusing the

1506
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: researchers of scare mongering and says that the figures are

1507
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: not nearly as bad as what the researchers say they

1508
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: are now regardless, I don't know, I mean you predominantly,

1509
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. Can you tell the difference between CAMPBELLA

1510
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: bactor and salmonella unless they're testing your poop? You probably can't.

1511
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: And don't you just kind of write it out? Who knows?

1512
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: It's probably worse than they think it is. However, can

1513
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: I tell you this. I once was at a Christmas

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Speaker 2: party back in Wellington when I was young and used

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Speaker 2: to go to parties all the time. I went to

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Speaker 2: this Christmas party and Michael Baker was there and I

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Speaker 2: got chatting to Michael Baker about it and I the

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Speaker 2: one piece of never mind COVID. The one thing that

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01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 2: Michael Baker has told me which has changed my life

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Speaker 2: is that if you want to avoid getting cambeller back to,

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Speaker 2: what you need to do when you get your chicken

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Speaker 2: into the house from the supermarket is chuck it in

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Speaker 2: the freezer. So before you do not cook your chicken raw,

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Speaker 2: chuck it in the freezer. Freeze it to death, because

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Speaker 2: you're basically freezing the bacteria to death, well kind of

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Speaker 2: most of them, and then you whip it out. Then

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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: you don't have a problem with the Campler bactor anymore.

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Speaker 2: And you can always stuff it up because there will

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Speaker 2: be a little bit left in there somewhere. But there's

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Speaker 2: a tip for how to avoid being one of those

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Speaker 2: people who ends up in hospital. And just how brilliant

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Speaker 2: is it that we're having fights about science again? It's

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Speaker 2: a bit triggering, isn't it. Anyway? As I said, Rod

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Speaker 2: Little with us shortly, News DOGSZB.

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Speaker 3: The only report you need to start your day.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen on the MIC, asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the land Rover discovery, never stop discovering news togs deadv.

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Speaker 2: Lord As if it's even possible. There are more allegations

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: against Mark Latham over in Australia. I'll run you through

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Speaker 2: those shortly. Hither what's this?

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Speaker 4: Just?

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Speaker 2: In USA? Wholesale rates remain stable? Now, what were you

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: saying about Trump's beautiful tariffs lead? The TDS spin begin

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: actually actually interesting. I'm going to come back to that

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01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: because not everyone thinks that he's losing the tariff war.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine, International Correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Rod Little is our UK correspondent higher Rod, Hey, good morning,

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Speaker 2: ha that okay. What's been the reaction to the news

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 2: of this Afghan rey location scheme.

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Speaker 12: Absolute apoplexy on the part of the press, which in

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Speaker 12: any case hates superinjunctions. It's reasonable enough, you know, we

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 12: don't like superinjunctions when they apply to the celebrities. When

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 12: it's applied by the government to important information, then it

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01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 12: infuriates us. There's been a degree of apoplexy from re Form,

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Speaker 12: the party which has no skin in the game. But

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01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 12: of course politically it's been quite quiet because both Labor

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Speaker 12: and the Conservatives coped some of the blame for this.

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Speaker 12: What I think most people are questioning is to what

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Speaker 12: degree was this thing made secret because they feared for

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Speaker 12: the lives of the Afghan people who would due to

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Speaker 12: come here, And to what degree was it to keep

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Speaker 12: it well away from the eyes of the public who

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Speaker 12: would be infuriated that one hundred thousand Afghan refugees would

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Speaker 12: be coming here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so right, good question. I mean, obviously, the cost

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Speaker 2: of it is enormous. It's about seven billion pounds. Have

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Speaker 2: you guys better. Yeah, have you have you affected it in?

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Speaker 2: Can you pay for it?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: We can't pay for anything though, so it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you know it's this this economy is it

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 12: looks a bit like Argentina about five years ago. No,

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Speaker 12: we can't afford to pay for it, and no we

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 12: want one hundred thousand Dafghans. It isn't really true that

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01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 12: one hundred thousand Dafghans helped the Brits out when we

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Speaker 12: were over in Afghanistani. It seems stretching it to me.

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Speaker 12: You could win a war with one hundred thousand people

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Speaker 12: and we of course lost too, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many of them have actually come over

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Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 12: I think it's something like eighteen thousand, and with another

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Speaker 12: twenty three thousand more due to come. I don't know

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Speaker 12: if that's another twenty three thousand on top or if

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Speaker 12: it's another five thousand, if you see what I mean? Yes,

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Speaker 12: but are there are many? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: To answer the question as to whether it was to

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Speaker 2: protect their lives or to keep it from the public,

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Speaker 2: the fact is that the Taliban have said they've always

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Speaker 2: had the Killlesston they're working their way through it, so

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Speaker 2: presumably it was to keep it a secret from the

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Speaker 2: British text Bayer.

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Speaker 12: Presumably that's the answer. Yes, and that's certainly where I'm going.

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Speaker 12: And I mean various MPs of both parties have come

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Speaker 12: out and said, no, Heaven for fed Nothing could be

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Speaker 12: further from the truth, whether it be John Eedy for

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Speaker 12: Labor or Ben Wallace for the Conservatives. But no, it's

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Speaker 12: it's It came at a time, you know, twenty twenty

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Speaker 12: three when we were sick to death of being lied

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Speaker 12: to by the government. And here's another example of it.

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Speaker 2: You know, now, do we know why that school put

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Speaker 2: that girl in it well, got her in trouble for

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Speaker 2: the Union jet dress.

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Speaker 12: Yes we do. They were having a celebrate culture day,

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Speaker 12: but the only cultures we were allowed to celebrate were

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Speaker 12: those which were British. She didn't know that. She went

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Speaker 12: along in a Union jet dress and prepared a lovely

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Speaker 12: little inclusive speech about British values and caring for everybody

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Speaker 12: and so on, and was immediately segregated and sent to

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Speaker 12: sit in reception because she was told it's for other cultures,

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Speaker 12: not for Britain. This has enraged the country. It is

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Speaker 12: a perfect example of what's happening in schools up and

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Speaker 12: down out country, which is a loathing for Britain, for

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Speaker 12: its past, for any identity, cas with Britain, and eulogizing

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Speaker 12: of all all incomers, no matter where they're from. And

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Speaker 12: it's running very, very heavily over here. The school has apologized,

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Speaker 12: it says, it's apologized unreservedly and it's trying to work

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Speaker 12: out how we might have handled things differently, But they

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Speaker 12: still haven't sacked whoever it was who segregated this little girl,

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Speaker 12: and we wouldn't have heard about it, and if her

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Speaker 12: father hadn't gone on Facebook and told us all about it.

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Speaker 2: Rod, it is good to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for your time, You have yourself a lovely evening and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you in soon. That's Rod Rod Little,

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Speaker 2: our UK correspondent, writing, let's talk about what's going on

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Speaker 2: with the Trump tariff. So there's a piece in the

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal which makes the point that actually, forget

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Speaker 2: about calling Donald Trump names like tarco. You know, Trump

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Speaker 2: always chickens out. Actually he is not losing the trade war.

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Speaker 2: We're all hung up apparently wrongly, says the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 2: on the fact that there aren't that many deals right,

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01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: because what we seem to have seem to have fallen

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Speaker 2: into the illusion that why Trump is putting the tariffs

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Speaker 2: on is because he wants to force countries into striking

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Speaker 2: deals to get around the tariffs. That's not at all

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Speaker 2: what he's up to. Apparently, what he is doing is

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Speaker 2: he just wants tariffs for the sake of tariffs. Quote.

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Speaker 2: He has been clear and single minded about his goal.

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Speaker 2: He wants tariffs. The higher the better, whether that has

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Speaker 2: achieved unilaterally or via deals as secondary. And the point

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Speaker 2: they make is he's been saying this since the nineteen eighties,

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 2: which he has in June. Loans is the Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal Treasury collected twenty seven billion US dollars and customs revenue,

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01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: up twenty billion from a year earlier, a pace that

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Speaker 2: would imply two hundred and forty billion more a year.

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 2: That isn't enough to eliminate most families income taxes. Trump

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01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: wants promise, but it can still play pay for plenty

1649
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: of other priorities. Seventeen away from nine for the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by News

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Speaker 2: Heather Salmonella can kill you. You don't simply ride it

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Speaker 2: out like other bugs. I've got salmonella nearly thirty years

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Speaker 2: ago while I was living in a student flat where

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Speaker 2: a chopping board hadn't been cleaned properly. After having raw

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Speaker 2: chicken cut on it. The salmonella state of my system

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Speaker 2: for four months, I was extremely sick, and second the

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Speaker 2: after effects lasted for about fifteen years. I've overcooked my

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Speaker 2: chicken ever since. Well, it's probably smart. Well, you can

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Speaker 2: also just stick it. Well, I wouldn't. I'm not a

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Speaker 2: doctor or a scientist, so you know, probably ask ai,

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Speaker 2: but you could consider sticking it in the freezer as well.

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Speaker 7: I got salmoneller on my honeymoon, did you Yes? And

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Speaker 7: I wish that it had killed me. It was not pleasant.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Since you clean, your wife probably

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Speaker 2: wished it it killed you as well. Having to deal

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Speaker 2: with you in that state. Lord above thirteen away from

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Speaker 2: nine Mark Latham, however, crap, you're weakers. It's a lot

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01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: better than Mark Latham's week. And I do use the

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: word crap quite deliberately because if you've been following the story,

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Speaker 2: that's part of it, isn't it. He's now accused, not

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Speaker 2: only of everything else, which is the pooing and the

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01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: bullying and the harassment and the intimidation and the driving

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Speaker 2: the car and the girlfriend. He is now also accused

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: of hooking up with her on the desk of his

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Speaker 2: office in New South Wales Parliament and going to full base,

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Speaker 2: whatever that base is, and then filming it on video

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Speaker 2: as well. This is not illegal obviously to do whatever

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Speaker 2: you want in your office if it's consensual, but it's

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Speaker 2: not being painted. It's being painted as not appropriate. To

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Speaker 2: suppose we could all say he hasn't denied this outright,

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Speaker 2: by the way, so he's made it sound like that

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01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: very much to get up to this. Also, he has

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Speaker 2: been accused of sending her dirty texts while he was

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Speaker 2: sitting in parliament. He confirmed that he did do it.

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,799
Speaker 2: He says the reason he did it was because, quote,

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: sitting there listening to Penny Sharp droning on and then

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: a woman who looks like Natalie Matthews sends you a

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01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 2: message which one would you pay attention to of the

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Speaker 2: other more niche things that he's accused of doing with her,

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Speaker 2: He denies some of it, but he does say she

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Speaker 2: actually in instigated a lot of it. He says, the

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Speaker 2: big news is that I had a private life. I

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Speaker 2: had a sex life that I've got to say was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Now another detail, which I think is relevant to this case,

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Speaker 2: because we're going to find out more and more, is

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Speaker 2: that she, Natalie Matthews, is taking the private case against

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01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: him because she went to the police and the police

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Speaker 2: wouldn't charge him, right, so she decided to go privately

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Speaker 2: against him. But also she's taking a private case against

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Speaker 2: her ex husband as well, for calling her two hundred

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01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: times between April and June this year, which she said

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01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 2: left her feeling shaken and scared. So she's going to

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: go later this month to court and deal with the

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: private case against the husband, and then a week later

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01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: she's going to be taking private case against her former lover,

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Speaker 2: Mark Latham. Also also in unrelated but slightly related news,

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: he could lose. This is Mark Latham. He could lose

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01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: his place in the new South Wales Parliament because he's

1710
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: facing a defamation case and if that defamation case bankrupts him,

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: then he gets kicked out of the parliament. So keep

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 2: an eye on that because that is every time the

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01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: allegations aren't bad enough. When he opens his mouth and

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01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: talks about it. He just sort of makes it slightly worse,

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01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: doesn't he by just the choice of words. He had

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Speaker 2: a fantastic sex life. Yay, Well, how do I pronounce

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Speaker 2: this chap's name? Please? Sam, this footballer? You mean Lamin Yama.

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Speaker 2: I've got it right, That's fantastic because I'm not a

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Speaker 2: huge I don't have a huge knowledge. I mean, I'm

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: great when it comes to very technical retrospective law when

1721
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: it comes to banking. But you get me on what

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01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: the Barcelona star is called, and I have no idea anyway.

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Speaker 2: Lamina marl is in trouble. Lamina marl Is.

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Speaker 11: I do know.

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Speaker 2: He's a superstar and he's very very young. He's just

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Speaker 2: turned eighteen years old, and so he threw himself as

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Speaker 2: you do an eighteenth birthday party. But because he's got

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Speaker 2: loads of money, he didn't do it himself, and he

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Speaker 2: got the organizers in and the organizers went absolutely gangbusters.

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Speaker 2: They just went mental on what they were going to

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Speaker 2: do for his eighteenth birthday party. He is now under

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Speaker 2: investigation because they hired people with dwarfism, and if you're

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Speaker 2: going to hire people with dwarfism in Spain, if this

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Speaker 2: is what you're thinking of doing for your party, solely

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Speaker 2: for the purposes of entertainment and attractions, you will be

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Speaker 2: breaking Spanish law. You're not allowed to do it. So

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Speaker 2: he's in trouble for that. Ten Away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen on the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: a Vida Retirement Communities News dogs head.

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Speaker 2: Be Heather, that's absolutely nuts. The people with dwarfism must

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Speaker 2: have been available for him to have hired them. So

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Speaker 2: wouldn't people with dwarfism also be up on a charge

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Speaker 2: because if they had made themselves available, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been able to hire them. I reluctant to get involved

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Speaker 2: in this conversation. I feel like, having drawn it to

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Speaker 2: your attention, I'm on the precipice of potentially getting in

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Speaker 2: a lot of trouble here, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like you can sort of talk about it, and then

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Speaker 2: you could talk about it to the point where you're

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Speaker 2: in trouble. But I don't know who it is. It

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Speaker 2: is a somewhat consensual relationship, Will I will take your

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01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: point there, but remember there are other consensual relationships that

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01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: we have punished before. Prostitution, for example, one party got

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Speaker 2: punished in the other knot and that and that was consensual.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, maybe the Spanish have just taken the kind

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Speaker 2: of that theory to another level. But I take your

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Speaker 2: point six away from.

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Speaker 3: Nine Trending Now Warehouse your home of winter essentials.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this clip is going viral from Fox. It is

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: from the show The Five. The Five is Fox's most

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Speaker 2: popular show. The host is Greg Gutfield. He decided that

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Speaker 2: calling someone a Nazi actually isn't a criticism anymore, and

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Speaker 2: he wants to reclaim the word.

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Speaker 14: This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when

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Speaker 14: you call us Nazis, Nazi, this Nazi that you know,

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Speaker 14: I'm beginning to think they don't like us.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I've said this before.

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Speaker 14: We need to learn from the Blacks, the way they

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Speaker 14: were able to remove the power from the N word

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Speaker 14: by using it.

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Speaker 2: So from now on, it's what up my Nazi?

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Speaker 15: Hey?

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Speaker 3: What up my Nazi?

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Speaker 15: Hey?

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Speaker 18: What's hanging my nazi?

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Speaker 15: Nazi?

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Speaker 18: Please?

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Speaker 3: Thank god you did a hard eye there.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's but here I was worrying about,

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Speaker 2: you know, talking about the financial transactions between the Barcelona

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Speaker 2: football star and people with dwarfs and the sky is

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Speaker 2: just never mind what I was worried about. He's taken

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Speaker 2: it a hold to a whole different place, isn't he.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you're going to get in trouble for

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Speaker 7: a joke, at least make it a funny joke.

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Speaker 2: Totally, totally. Yeah, I'd never never understood why that show

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Speaker 2: is popular, as I just look at that man's face

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Speaker 2: and it irritates me. He just looks at his face

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Speaker 2: is aggressive? Do you know when a face is aggressive?

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Speaker 2: And you probably don't have it if you're a man,

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Speaker 2: but if you have a woman, if you're a woman,

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Speaker 2: you have it. We have women's intuition and we just

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01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 2: have to look at a face and then we know

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Speaker 2: already whether that person's a good person or not, whether

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Speaker 2: we want to bother out, you know, using our time

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Speaker 2: on them and Greek No not really, Now I didn't

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Speaker 2: know this, did you know this? On the grounds of Bellemoral,

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Speaker 2: there are pyramids hidden in the woods. Apparently Queen Victoria

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Speaker 2: had a real ponchanp for the pyramids, and she built

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Speaker 2: them to commemorate various milestones in her in her life

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Speaker 2: life and people that she lost. She built the first one,

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Speaker 2: which is more of a can really to celebrate the

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Speaker 2: fact that she'd actually had They got their hands on

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Speaker 2: the Bow Moral estate. I think Albert had bought it

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Speaker 2: for her, and so she was like, oh, that's lovely,

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Speaker 2: let's build a pyramid. So they did. They built a

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Speaker 2: little one, and then she built them to mark the

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Speaker 2: marriages of her one thy five hundred children, and then

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Speaker 2: she built one to mark the death of Prince Albert

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Speaker 2: in eighteen sixties. And that one is the biggest one.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven meters high, which is a testament to

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Speaker 2: the fact that she loved the man very deeply, but

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Speaker 2: also quite an odd thing to do. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know is there a rule. There may be a rule

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Speaker 2: that in the UK you're allowed to sort of wander

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Speaker 2: around on people's estates or something like that. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you're allowed to wander around on a

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Speaker 2: royal estate. But if you are and you find yourselves

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Speaker 2: around and you find yourself in that part of the world,

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Speaker 2: go have a look at the pyramids, because they have

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Speaker 2: pyramids and bew morals.

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Speaker 7: And also presumably she would have had to get the

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Speaker 7: aliens and to build them. But I guess smaller aliens

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Speaker 7: in the original aliens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, some of the aliens were obviously not very good,

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Speaker 2: because the first Ken does look it's not a it's

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Speaker 2: something it's like, it's not an architectural masterpiece. But later on,

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Speaker 2: by the time she got to the death of Albert,

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Speaker 2: those aliens were doing fantastic jobs.

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Speaker 7: Thinks I hope she wasn't exploiting.

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Speaker 6: Aliens.

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Speaker 2: Stop it, we're heading down the Greek path again. All right,

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Speaker 2: you enjoy yourself, have a lovely day. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be with you tomorrow, and then Mike is back on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So if you have been bottling up your desire to

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Speaker 2: see Mike, you willbear. It's been a long time. It's

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Speaker 2: not long ago. Now enjoy your day.

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