1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: In the Brady UK correspondence with I Sayinda. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Hey, Heather, lovely to speak to you again. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: What do you make of the Guardian taking itself off Twitter? 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: I absolutely applaud them. It's a toxic platform. It has 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: been for a very long time. The abuse of people, 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: the hounding of people. I just a personal anecdote. I 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: think back to when I was ill and I couldn't walk, 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: and I was in bed and my daughter was taking 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: me to the bathroom. I gave one interview to a 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: radio station in Ireland because the producer is a very 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: good friend, and I was quite concerned that if this 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: new COVID variant had left me on my knees, what 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: was it going to do to vulnerable people like my sister. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: So I gave that interview and within an hour I 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: had people wishing me dead. You know, when you're flatting 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: your back in bed, you're scrolling on a phone and 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: there's nothing else to do. I just I remember thinking 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: at the time, Wow, this is a really, really toxic platform. 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Since Musk has taken over, it's got worse. Yeah, I 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: can see why the guard they're doing it. And look, 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: I guess people would say, oh, you know if you're 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: a journalist and you're sharing information, you need as many 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: platforms as possible. No, you don't. Nobody needs Twitter in 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: their life or X or whatever he calls it. It 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: is such a toxic, negative place. It's just like, you know, 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: imagine being that perpetually angry every hour of the day. 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah too. Right. It's interesting though, because obviously what the 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Guardian could have done is I mean, I still retain 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: my Twitter account. I just don't. I don't read what 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: any very occasionally I'll go and see, you know, if 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I need to see some stupid thing that some stupid 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: New Zealand politicians tweeted out, then I have the access 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: to that because I have an account, right, But I 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: need to look at what people say to me because 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't need that negativity in my life. But why 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't the Guardian choose to do that, just post it 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: stuff out and never look at it again. Why did 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: they take it? It feels like it taking a stands 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 1: a stand. 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're taking a stand against Musk. I think they're 41 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: just saying enough is an off and look what we're 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: seeing this guy. He's not American. You know. We were 43 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: told old Labor Party people from the UK, interfering in 44 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: the selections. You've got a guy going around giving a 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: million dollars out of people to vote for Trump. I mean, 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: you couldn't make this stuff up. So I think what 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: they're doing is just taking a stand. They don't want 48 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: their name and their brand associated with Twitter or him. 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: And there are plenty of other places out there, and 50 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: you know, I read the Guardian like I read every 51 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: other newspaper. They're very good. They've been going since the 52 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds and they are a bastion of British journalism. 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: You know, it is not a bad newspaper. 54 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: No, it's an excellent newspaper. Actually, all right, tell me 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: about this dynamic pricing at this English public in the 56 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: London pub, because I don't mind it. You order after team, 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: you get your beer for four backs. 58 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: No, you get four books added onto your beer. This 59 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: is outrageous. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, dynamic pricing. So so 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: hang on, let me just so. Basically, you buy a 61 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: beer at nine to fifty nine pm and at sixteen dollars. 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: This is O'Neill's in Soho in London. Yeah, claimed to 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: be an Irish pub. It's about as Irish as a Penguin, 64 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: So sixteen dollars a beer at nine to fifty nine, 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: you order the exact same product a minute later, and 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: they're now putting on a four dollars sor charge, so 67 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: your beer suddenly becomes twenty dollars. And they're saying that 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: this is, you know, in keeping with prices in the area. 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: And I think what they're doing is they're cashing in 70 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: on the fact that there's probably some luxurious hotels in 71 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: that area that if you go for a beer very 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: late at night, they will charge you twenty dollars. But 73 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: you're sitting in a five star hotel surrounded with very 74 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: glamorous people, and O'Neill's, which is a bang average irish 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: and inverted commas pub. I think they're cashing in shamelessly. 76 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: I think it's really really wrong. We've seen dynamic pricing 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: with the Oasis tickets here, basically fleecing working people, and 78 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: I real concern that other premises will think, hang on, 79 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: they're doing it, we can do it. 80 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And not to mention, eighteen o'clock at night, you 81 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: probably quite drunk, can't you, so you don't realize what 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: just happened to you. 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not advertised anywhere. There's no you know, 84 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: it's not like they tell you coming in that you 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: know by the way we whacker our prices up after 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: ten o'clock. I mean, I don't know. I just honestly 87 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm dreaming of Christmas in Ireland and our local pub, 88 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Martiv is the best pub in Ireland and I can't 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: wait to get back there. And you get the best skinness, 90 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: the best skinness in the world, and you get change 91 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: out of ten dollars. 92 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: How good we're all dreaming of Christmas. Inda, thanks so 93 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: much Into Brady, UK Correspondent. 94 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 95 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 96 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.