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Speaker 3: This week on the b LP, Wade Egan stops by

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Speaker 3: for a chat after the Warriors wind streak ends at five.

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Speaker 3: Michael Burgess challenges camera coach Ricky Stewart after his sides

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Speaker 3: aggressive tactics and does the NL need to seriously consider

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Speaker 3: a mid season representative break. My name is Nick Buley.

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Speaker 3: Let's go b LP. Ah, here we go again. The

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Speaker 3: Warriors lose and the pitchfork's are out. The keyboards are

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Speaker 3: being bashed too many eras, they've got nothing on attack.

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Speaker 3: They're soft through the middle. It goes on and on

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Speaker 3: and look, well, I admire the passion from the fan

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Speaker 3: base and some questions do need to be asked. Can

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Speaker 3: we please take a collective breath and cut the doomsday nonsense?

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Speaker 3: The Warriors were not far off beating a very good

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Speaker 3: Canberra team without their co captains, arguably their two most

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Speaker 3: influential players. Let's not lose sight of the big picture.

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Speaker 3: They are third third on the NRL table. Was it

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Speaker 3: a disappointing result?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Is it season defining no Michael Burgess, Senior Sports rider

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Speaker 3: at the New Zealand Herald.

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Speaker 4: Have I gone soft or I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: What was your initial take after Sunday's performance and defeat.

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Speaker 5: It's a good point, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think the reaction, the frustration, the anger even is

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Speaker 6: being felt because people know that they could have won

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Speaker 6: that game and how big it would have if they

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Speaker 6: managed to jag that win on Sunday, that would have

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Speaker 6: was there. But they weren't quite good enough. That doesn't

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Speaker 6: mean they didn't play well. I thought they played quite well.

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Speaker 6: They just weren't clinical enough. And the Raiders are a

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Speaker 6: very good team, very good team. You know, they're better

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Speaker 6: I think looking back across the season, maybe the Raiders

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Speaker 6: good team. Tough conditions. Without their two leaders, they still

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Speaker 6: had a real go. But I can see I can

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Speaker 6: understand the frustration because people know how important this could

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Speaker 6: coming up, Rabbitos Away, Sharks Away and then Penrith for memory.

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Speaker 5: So they've got a tough run coming up. So understand

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Speaker 6: But I agree with you not season defining, and there

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Speaker 6: were things to like, which we'll get into in a minute.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we certainly will.

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Speaker 3: And look, I want to get into the attack specifically

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Speaker 4: I want to also get into it.

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Speaker 3: But a press conference back and forth featuring yours truly,

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Speaker 3: But look, before we get to that, special guest Wade

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Speaker 3: Egan stop by for a chat with you Burge for

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Speaker 3: his take on that sixteen to ten loss to Canberra.

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Speaker 6: Hell of a battle tonight. Look like a credibly tense game.

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Speaker 5: What did you make of it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're a good side can Berus are. Yeah, very

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Speaker 7: tense game. And yeah we probably just left a few

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Speaker 7: chances out there. I thought were pretty good defensively other

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Speaker 5: Was that the difference? You think? Just all that rid

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we got held up a couple of times. I

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Speaker 5: And how do we get sort of build on that.

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Speaker 6: How hard are they to play against the special with

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Speaker 5: No, they're a very good team.

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Speaker 7: They're probably the best team we've played so far this year.

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Speaker 5: Obviously played them twice, but I think they're probably other

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Speaker 7: Backfield, just outstanding out there the way they carry the ball.

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Speaker 7: They played really well, and then they're going to be

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Speaker 5: I think that you made here.

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Speaker 6: On a positive note. Happy with the defensive.

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Speaker 5: And I thought we were really good for most of

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Speaker 3: Out of that.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's feeling a bit down.

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Speaker 6: But if you look at thirteen weeks on from Las

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Speaker 5: See can you see a lot of progress? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of progress made. But yeah, we're definitely

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Speaker 7: not happy with the loss. You know, even though we

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Speaker 5: We thought we'd sort of.

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Speaker 7: Left one out out tonight, and yeah, it's very disappointing.

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Speaker 7: But we go again next week and yeah, we're sort

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Speaker 6: Does that show our father's teams come that that you're

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Speaker 6: you're all pretty pretty flat after this?

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Speaker 7: Obviously, I think we hold ourselves to pretty high standards

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Speaker 5: But I guess we can take some good things.

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Speaker 7: Out of that game as well, especially out of fence.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, we're revealed tomorrow and to go from there, how.

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Speaker 6: Were you feeling with sort of five ten minutes to go?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, I think Big Maratha got held up, like

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Speaker 5: And yeah, he had a games hot.

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Speaker 6: And finally, how are you coping with the load, all

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Speaker 5: How are you feeling physically? Yeah? No, feeling good, mate.

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Speaker 7: I think I've sort of the Fittestuf've sort of being

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Speaker 7: So yeah, feeling really good and yeah, hopefully keeping knocking

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Speaker 5: Did it? Did it hurt a bit? The origin situation?

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Speaker 5: And if if a chance comes, I guess I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, until then, I'm focusing the worst.

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Speaker 6: Is it nice though, that you're right in the frame

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Speaker 6: and there were some people a bit surprised that you

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Speaker 5: That must be a nice feeling I get. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Mate, I guess, Yeah, sort of Coulter be up in

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Speaker 5: So yeah, sort of a dream.

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Speaker 2: This is the Big League podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Big League podcast on the Warriors band wagons

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Speaker 2: since day one.

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Speaker 3: Well Berger, before we unpack the Warriors performance, a lot

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Speaker 3: of commentary online about the way the camera Raiders went

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Speaker 4: They had two.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like the players we're giving it back after

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Speaker 3: a few Warriors fans were dishing it out during the game.

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Speaker 3: Here's Ricky Sture more specifically on some of those incidents

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Speaker 3: around aggression. This all came about unprompted by the way

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Speaker 3: Ricky Stewett talking about his team's approach.

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Speaker 8: We could getting told these games about entertainment and that

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Speaker 8: was an entertaining game tonight. But we can't discipline aggression

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Speaker 8: because our game, our broadcast is promote aggression. We've got

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Speaker 8: to scrutinize aggressive actions in a game that is molded

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Speaker 8: on pure aggression and passion. On Wednesday night, we've got

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Speaker 8: and it's created the profile and the culture. The passion

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Speaker 3: And here you are, Michael Burr, just challenging Ricky Stewart's

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Speaker 8: Say, you feel like you when he releases Joe's when

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Speaker 8: you release his head. That's what we practice to do.

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Speaker 8: But we practice releasing the head and less I didn't

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Speaker 8: I'm not promoting for.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed that that little tip for tat there, Michael Burgess,

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Speaker 5: They had to do it. They wanted to upset the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Talking last week Burge more about it felt like a

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Speaker 9: There's some really good attack, there was some frustrating So

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Speaker 9: it just wasn't going to be a night to go

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Speaker 3: But I did want to get into what's becoming an

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Speaker 3: answer here, because at the moment it doesn't feel like

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00:20:33,853 --> 00:20:37,573
Speaker 3: we're in a good situation for the competition or the

440
00:20:37,573 --> 00:20:39,573
Speaker 3: integrity of the competition, at least that's my view.

441
00:20:39,773 --> 00:20:40,533
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good point.

442
00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:43,053
Speaker 6: I hadn't thought about it exactly how you worded it,

443
00:20:43,093 --> 00:20:46,453
Speaker 6: And you're right. The big teams kind of do get punished,

444
00:20:46,493 --> 00:20:49,973
Speaker 6: don't they for their performances and having good players that

445
00:20:50,093 --> 00:20:52,133
Speaker 6: end the playing origin. I mean, I guess the other

446
00:20:52,173 --> 00:20:55,053
Speaker 6: side of that is you've got teams like the Roosters

447
00:20:55,053 --> 00:20:57,133
Speaker 6: in the Storm that have a lot of good players

448
00:20:57,173 --> 00:20:59,613
Speaker 6: and seem to have a lot of money, and people

449
00:20:59,613 --> 00:21:01,973
Speaker 6: wouldn't feel as sorry for them in that way. But

450
00:21:02,453 --> 00:21:05,453
Speaker 6: it's hard to think of other competitions, sporting competitions of

451
00:21:05,453 --> 00:21:08,333
Speaker 6: the world where it does become so lopsid a different

452
00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:14,613
Speaker 6: times and these teams get effectively burdened for having star players.

453
00:21:15,053 --> 00:21:17,773
Speaker 6: The answer is exactly right. There needs to be a break,

454
00:21:18,013 --> 00:21:21,053
Speaker 6: ideally with some tests thrown in there. This is another

455
00:21:21,053 --> 00:21:23,293
Speaker 6: topic for another podcast Nick, But test match footy is

456
00:21:23,613 --> 00:21:26,453
Speaker 6: becoming more and more irrelevant, and it's so sad because

457
00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:29,613
Speaker 6: it's sort of been disappeared to November and by then

458
00:21:29,893 --> 00:21:31,933
Speaker 6: a lot of players aren't available on a play, whereas

459
00:21:31,933 --> 00:21:33,653
Speaker 6: you've got to at least have one mid year test

460
00:21:33,733 --> 00:21:36,093
Speaker 6: with some specific games as well. The problem is it

461
00:21:36,093 --> 00:21:40,213
Speaker 6: will never happen because the broadcasters they just need content.

462
00:21:40,293 --> 00:21:42,813
Speaker 6: All they care about is content. And if then I

463
00:21:42,853 --> 00:21:44,253
Speaker 6: go to them and say, look, we're going to shave,

464
00:21:44,933 --> 00:21:47,613
Speaker 6: We're going to shave three weekends off, they're saying, well,

465
00:21:47,893 --> 00:21:49,573
Speaker 6: what do we want in return?

466
00:21:50,053 --> 00:21:51,813
Speaker 5: It's a real shame. What you need here.

467
00:21:51,853 --> 00:21:54,093
Speaker 6: You need the top people at Channel and at Fox

468
00:21:54,173 --> 00:21:58,373
Speaker 6: taking a a more holistic view and saying players need

469
00:21:58,413 --> 00:22:01,093
Speaker 6: a break. You get better competition, less injuries if you

470
00:22:01,373 --> 00:22:05,613
Speaker 6: have a a more realistic season instead of just bloody

471
00:22:05,973 --> 00:22:08,853
Speaker 6: burning them like they do to be great.

472
00:22:08,973 --> 00:22:12,693
Speaker 3: You know, I'd really like to know and maybe put

473
00:22:12,733 --> 00:22:15,733
Speaker 3: in some inquiries with a Fox or A nine or

474
00:22:15,773 --> 00:22:21,333
Speaker 3: a Sky. Is there a dip in broadcast viewership during

475
00:22:21,373 --> 00:22:25,213
Speaker 3: this period? Because I look at some of those teams

476
00:22:25,373 --> 00:22:30,213
Speaker 3: and I follow NRAL closely and with the greatest respect,

477
00:22:30,253 --> 00:22:32,013
Speaker 3: I haven't heard of some of these guys that are

478
00:22:32,053 --> 00:22:35,013
Speaker 3: just popping up Willie Nelly out a reserve grade.

479
00:22:35,213 --> 00:22:36,933
Speaker 4: You know, is that what we want for the competition?

480
00:22:36,973 --> 00:22:40,493
Speaker 3: Don't we want our best players playing, as you say,

481
00:22:41,053 --> 00:22:48,693
Speaker 3: a content beast. But I'm growing increasingly frustrated around Yeah,

482
00:22:48,773 --> 00:22:52,013
Speaker 3: as you say, what other competition does this happen? Where

483
00:22:53,293 --> 00:22:55,693
Speaker 3: I know State of Origin is king in terms of

484
00:22:56,053 --> 00:22:58,933
Speaker 3: the revenue that's created and the broadcast interest there, but

485
00:22:58,973 --> 00:23:04,173
Speaker 3: we're pulling away forty forty five of the best players

486
00:23:04,653 --> 00:23:08,213
Speaker 3: and we're getting to a situation where I think it

487
00:23:08,493 --> 00:23:11,693
Speaker 3: might hurt a team in the grand scheme of things,

488
00:23:11,733 --> 00:23:15,693
Speaker 3: perhaps making the eight. And look, it's a funny thing

489
00:23:15,693 --> 00:23:17,613
Speaker 3: to say in many ways because I know it's benefited

490
00:23:17,613 --> 00:23:22,013
Speaker 3: the Warriors over the years. And yes they lost just

491
00:23:22,093 --> 00:23:26,173
Speaker 3: the Mitch Barnett at the week just being but yeah,

492
00:23:26,613 --> 00:23:29,533
Speaker 3: I just wonder if there's a simple solution, as you say,

493
00:23:29,733 --> 00:23:34,693
Speaker 3: if you then had a break, you can reinvigorate Test football.

494
00:23:35,053 --> 00:23:37,413
Speaker 3: I know that complicates things even further because we're currently

495
00:23:37,413 --> 00:23:39,533
Speaker 3: got a situation where salm Old and Tonguan players are

496
00:23:39,533 --> 00:23:42,333
Speaker 3: playing Origin as well. But who's to say we couldn't

497
00:23:42,413 --> 00:23:48,013
Speaker 3: have a Kiwi's England Series Super leagu'es just finished we

498
00:23:48,133 --> 00:23:49,493
Speaker 3: summer tour or something like that.

499
00:23:49,573 --> 00:23:52,413
Speaker 4: P and G. I don't know, But it's a talking.

500
00:23:52,093 --> 00:23:54,093
Speaker 3: Point, isn't it, Because I know we're going to get

501
00:23:54,093 --> 00:23:56,413
Speaker 3: into our quick fire predictions shortly, but I'm just for

502
00:23:56,453 --> 00:23:57,933
Speaker 3: the sake of it going to pick all the teams

503
00:23:57,973 --> 00:24:00,533
Speaker 3: that I don't think are going to win, because it's

504
00:24:00,573 --> 00:24:03,693
Speaker 3: just an absolute lottery at the moment. Like we both

505
00:24:03,733 --> 00:24:08,773
Speaker 3: went none from five and that's purely with team who

506
00:24:08,773 --> 00:24:12,053
Speaker 3: are below. We went with basically all favorites. And yeah,

507
00:24:12,093 --> 00:24:14,773
Speaker 3: I just wonder is it good for the competition creating

508
00:24:14,813 --> 00:24:19,013
Speaker 3: this this lottery situation when players are absent through origin.

509
00:24:19,093 --> 00:24:20,813
Speaker 4: My argument would be it's not.

510
00:24:21,133 --> 00:24:23,253
Speaker 6: There has been over the years a bit of romance

511
00:24:23,893 --> 00:24:27,133
Speaker 6: around this period too, because you had players you haven't

512
00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:29,533
Speaker 6: seen before come along, play a couple of games, and

513
00:24:29,573 --> 00:24:32,373
Speaker 6: then the next season they're in first grade. And I

514
00:24:32,413 --> 00:24:36,453
Speaker 6: remember often they talk about the baby Broncos back in

515
00:24:36,453 --> 00:24:38,973
Speaker 6: the days when the Broncos had so many Queensland players,

516
00:24:38,973 --> 00:24:41,813
Speaker 6: you know, and they or a Storm team that was

517
00:24:42,413 --> 00:24:44,013
Speaker 6: devoid of a few of their stars, or that the

518
00:24:44,053 --> 00:24:45,773
Speaker 6: Storm always been lucky. Because I've drenly had a lot

519
00:24:45,773 --> 00:24:47,893
Speaker 6: of Kiwis, so the Kiwis of course are still playing.

520
00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:52,213
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's some people like the interests that creates

521
00:24:52,253 --> 00:24:54,773
Speaker 6: having some new names in there. But I just think

522
00:24:54,813 --> 00:24:57,413
Speaker 6: the other thing is asking way too much of the players.

523
00:24:57,453 --> 00:25:00,733
Speaker 6: It's not it's actually it's actually worse. It's worse what

524
00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:03,213
Speaker 6: happens this weekend. The fact they're playing an Origin game

525
00:25:03,213 --> 00:25:05,173
Speaker 6: on Wednesday night, which is the toughest thing they do

526
00:25:05,253 --> 00:25:09,333
Speaker 6: all year, and then they're expected to back up on

527
00:25:09,533 --> 00:25:11,693
Speaker 6: Friday night. You know, you had players in the past

528
00:25:11,693 --> 00:25:13,253
Speaker 6: back and a half to forty eight hours. I think

529
00:25:13,253 --> 00:25:15,773
Speaker 6: Camera Smith once played on well many times on a

530
00:25:15,773 --> 00:25:19,333
Speaker 6: Friday night after playing Wednesday, and they meant to play Friday, Satday, Sunday.

531
00:25:19,333 --> 00:25:22,573
Speaker 6: And the bodies aren't aren't designed for that, but they're

532
00:25:23,293 --> 00:25:26,053
Speaker 6: loyal to their club. They're kind of expected to play.

533
00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:29,693
Speaker 6: That's crazy stuff. But I think from a welfare point

534
00:25:29,693 --> 00:25:31,693
Speaker 6: of view, because then you probably get more injuries this

535
00:25:31,733 --> 00:25:34,373
Speaker 6: weekend because of it, et cetera, et cetera. It's another

536
00:25:34,413 --> 00:25:36,453
Speaker 6: can of worms. From a welfare point of view, it

537
00:25:36,493 --> 00:25:40,053
Speaker 6: needs to be looked at and the next broadcast deal.

538
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:41,013
Speaker 6: Let's hope this is on the.

539
00:25:41,053 --> 00:25:45,973
Speaker 2: Gender big Moments the Big League Podcast.

540
00:25:46,493 --> 00:25:50,653
Speaker 3: On that note, Birch, let's get into some quick fire predictions.

541
00:25:51,373 --> 00:25:54,493
Speaker 3: We'll start with State of Origin A because Wednesday night,

542
00:25:54,533 --> 00:25:56,613
Speaker 3: I know you'll be glued to your TV as will

543
00:25:56,653 --> 00:26:01,333
Speaker 3: I an intriguing series. This New South Wales, fair to

544
00:26:01,333 --> 00:26:03,653
Speaker 3: say coming in his favorites having won last year, but

545
00:26:03,693 --> 00:26:06,853
Speaker 3: that was under Michael McGuire, who is now under serious

546
00:26:06,853 --> 00:26:09,653
Speaker 3: pressure as a Brisbane Broncos here coach Larry Daily comes

547
00:26:09,693 --> 00:26:13,813
Speaker 3: back in first game is in Brisbane, so there is

548
00:26:13,813 --> 00:26:17,093
Speaker 3: obviously that home advantage there for Queensland.

549
00:26:17,853 --> 00:26:19,773
Speaker 4: Which way do you see this one going?

550
00:26:20,533 --> 00:26:22,573
Speaker 5: First of all, Nick, I can't remember are you Are

551
00:26:22,613 --> 00:26:24,533
Speaker 5: you a blues.

552
00:26:24,613 --> 00:26:28,613
Speaker 3: Man or I'd have to say morons if I was

553
00:26:28,653 --> 00:26:31,813
Speaker 3: really pushed. I'm not super passionate about it. But yeah,

554
00:26:31,933 --> 00:26:34,053
Speaker 3: if one or the other that I'd go with Queensland.

555
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,853
Speaker 3: I think that's just I don't know.

556
00:26:36,253 --> 00:26:36,653
Speaker 4: I went with that.

557
00:26:36,773 --> 00:26:38,613
Speaker 3: Then my stepbrother supported New South Wales and I just

558
00:26:38,653 --> 00:26:39,373
Speaker 3: thought it'd be different.

559
00:26:39,893 --> 00:26:41,853
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I mean I think I think it's still

560
00:26:42,653 --> 00:26:45,693
Speaker 6: light a key. We still love Queensland from back in

561
00:26:45,733 --> 00:26:48,413
Speaker 6: the Allen Langer Wally Lewis days, I think right. And

562
00:26:48,453 --> 00:26:50,293
Speaker 6: then there was a long period when they were the

563
00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:52,413
Speaker 6: underdogs for a long time, and then that period where

564
00:26:52,413 --> 00:26:54,133
Speaker 6: they were unbeatable for a long time. But for some

565
00:26:54,213 --> 00:26:57,213
Speaker 6: reason we seem to follow Queensland and a lot more.

566
00:26:57,253 --> 00:26:59,333
Speaker 6: I know that frustrates change. Your Webster's always saying he

567
00:26:59,413 --> 00:27:02,533
Speaker 6: runs into so many, so many Queensland fans on his

568
00:27:03,053 --> 00:27:07,013
Speaker 6: walks around around the eastern suburbs. I'm delaying this though,

569
00:27:07,013 --> 00:27:09,693
Speaker 6: because I'm really not sure Queensland at home and they

570
00:27:09,773 --> 00:27:11,093
Speaker 6: kind of have to win because if you lose the

571
00:27:11,133 --> 00:27:15,213
Speaker 6: first game at home it makes the series really really hard.

572
00:27:15,933 --> 00:27:18,813
Speaker 6: But it's hard to tip against New South Wales. They

573
00:27:18,813 --> 00:27:22,173
Speaker 6: do look like the better team on paper. They look

574
00:27:22,293 --> 00:27:25,813
Speaker 6: like they've got more weapons certainly, and probably a bit

575
00:27:25,853 --> 00:27:28,413
Speaker 6: more size. So it's going to take one of those

576
00:27:28,853 --> 00:27:32,213
Speaker 6: underdog Queensland spirit type efforts to do it. I think Queensland,

577
00:27:32,213 --> 00:27:33,613
Speaker 6: if they win, will have to win it late. New

578
00:27:33,653 --> 00:27:36,253
Speaker 6: South Wales is more of a team that could build

579
00:27:36,253 --> 00:27:38,573
Speaker 6: a lead and go on with it. So I will,

580
00:27:38,813 --> 00:27:42,293
Speaker 6: against my heart, will I will tip New South Wales.

581
00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:46,373
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go Queensland. And as you say, I think, yeah,

582
00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:50,293
Speaker 3: they're going to have to grind away almost Warriors esque

583
00:27:50,373 --> 00:27:55,093
Speaker 3: where it's just built on effort, scramble, defense and a

584
00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,373
Speaker 3: couple of key moments. I'm really intrigued actually to see

585
00:27:57,413 --> 00:28:00,933
Speaker 3: how Mitchell, Moses and Nathan Cleary combine as a five

586
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:05,453
Speaker 3: eighths halfback duo to sort of Premier seven's in the NRL.

587
00:28:05,813 --> 00:28:07,733
Speaker 4: Do we see more of Moses as a runner? Do

588
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,133
Speaker 4: we see more of Area is a runner?

589
00:28:09,213 --> 00:28:12,773
Speaker 3: Or do they just sort of duel half back if

590
00:28:12,813 --> 00:28:14,933
Speaker 3: you like, just own a side of the field each.

591
00:28:15,253 --> 00:28:17,613
Speaker 3: But very much looking forward to Wednesday night. Then we

592
00:28:17,733 --> 00:28:21,093
Speaker 3: kick into the NRL and what have we got? A

593
00:28:21,213 --> 00:28:25,013
Speaker 3: seven game slates? As you mentioned, Bird, there will be some.

594
00:28:25,213 --> 00:28:26,653
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to wrap my brain off the top

595
00:28:26,693 --> 00:28:29,493
Speaker 3: of my head. Dragons Knights is the Friday night game.

596
00:28:30,573 --> 00:28:36,973
Speaker 3: Newcastle representatives, Kaylen Ponger. You think, surely, Kaylen Ponger wouldn't

597
00:28:36,973 --> 00:28:39,613
Speaker 3: back up forty eight hours. We've seen, as you said,

598
00:28:39,653 --> 00:28:42,093
Speaker 3: Caam Smith do it in the past, but Dragons Knights

599
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:46,613
Speaker 3: the Nights out of nowhere without Ponger beating Penrith.

600
00:28:46,253 --> 00:28:48,693
Speaker 5: At the weekend, Yeah, there was out of nowhere.

601
00:28:49,293 --> 00:28:53,013
Speaker 6: I guess it just shows you know, they would do

602
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:55,973
Speaker 6: to put in a good performance. They've had a terrible season,

603
00:28:56,013 --> 00:28:58,533
Speaker 6: but on paper they've still got a good team, so

604
00:28:58,853 --> 00:29:01,973
Speaker 6: I was happy for them because it's been pretty miserable

605
00:29:02,013 --> 00:29:03,733
Speaker 6: for the nights.

606
00:29:04,693 --> 00:29:07,173
Speaker 5: But I can't see continuing. I think I like the

607
00:29:07,253 --> 00:29:08,133
Speaker 5: Dragons in this.

608
00:29:08,893 --> 00:29:11,333
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Newcastle because I like the Dragons too.

609
00:29:11,453 --> 00:29:13,813
Speaker 3: And this is the NRL, as we know, during the

610
00:29:13,813 --> 00:29:18,013
Speaker 3: state of Origin period where nothing makes sense. Three games

611
00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:23,093
Speaker 3: late Saturday afternoon, Titans and the Melbourne Storm on the

612
00:29:23,093 --> 00:29:26,213
Speaker 3: Gold Coast to kick things off five pm, New Zealand

613
00:29:26,213 --> 00:29:27,213
Speaker 3: times at three pm.

614
00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:30,373
Speaker 6: I've talked a lot of Storm players over the years

615
00:29:30,373 --> 00:29:32,293
Speaker 6: about this, and I think even Craig Bellamy once and

616
00:29:32,373 --> 00:29:34,693
Speaker 6: he just said that they take great pride in their

617
00:29:34,733 --> 00:29:35,773
Speaker 6: performance during Origin.

618
00:29:35,813 --> 00:29:36,453
Speaker 4: They're sort of.

619
00:29:36,973 --> 00:29:39,253
Speaker 6: Every year they say themselves, right, no matter who we've

620
00:29:39,253 --> 00:29:42,013
Speaker 6: got missing or who's not playing, we're still going to perform.

621
00:29:42,093 --> 00:29:44,533
Speaker 6: We're still going to bank points and invariably that's what

622
00:29:44,573 --> 00:29:47,693
Speaker 6: they do. So I'll back the Storm to keep on

623
00:29:47,813 --> 00:29:48,173
Speaker 6: keeping on.

624
00:29:48,773 --> 00:29:51,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to Titans are going to be consistent here.

625
00:29:51,813 --> 00:29:53,253
Speaker 4: Cowboys Tigers.

626
00:29:54,173 --> 00:29:57,253
Speaker 5: I love this. I like the Cowboys at home.

627
00:29:58,093 --> 00:30:04,053
Speaker 6: I think Tigers, you know, they're an interesting team. The Tigers,

628
00:30:04,813 --> 00:30:07,293
Speaker 6: I don't think their top eight material. Don't think they've

629
00:30:07,293 --> 00:30:09,293
Speaker 6: had the They've got this squad that's deep enough to

630
00:30:09,853 --> 00:30:12,573
Speaker 6: get to September football. But you know they've had some

631
00:30:12,773 --> 00:30:16,493
Speaker 6: had some good wins, but just starting to see some cracks.

632
00:30:16,533 --> 00:30:19,493
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think the Cowboys at home will prevail.

633
00:30:19,613 --> 00:30:21,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be a bit more sensible here

634
00:30:21,613 --> 00:30:25,693
Speaker 3: and go with the Cowboys, although again they are you know,

635
00:30:25,773 --> 00:30:30,173
Speaker 3: Tom Deeddon for example, state of origin and Joame Low

636
00:30:30,293 --> 00:30:32,893
Speaker 3: perhaps are the points to prove having been demoted out

637
00:30:32,893 --> 00:30:36,053
Speaker 3: of New South Wales, so that'll be an interesting one,

638
00:30:36,053 --> 00:30:39,533
Speaker 3: but I will go the Cowboys are manly Brisbane around

639
00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:42,573
Speaker 3: out things on Saturday night, that's at Brookvale.

640
00:30:43,173 --> 00:30:44,973
Speaker 6: I think the Broncos will be starting to get a

641
00:30:45,013 --> 00:30:48,453
Speaker 6: bit desperate, won't they, because already Michael McGuire is under

642
00:30:48,453 --> 00:30:51,453
Speaker 6: so much pressure. Like it hasn't been a great start

643
00:30:51,453 --> 00:30:54,013
Speaker 6: to the season. It's been okay, but they've had you know,

644
00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:56,213
Speaker 6: a few losses now in the last few weeks, so

645
00:30:56,253 --> 00:30:58,693
Speaker 6: they really really need to win this. But they're not

646
00:30:58,733 --> 00:31:00,773
Speaker 6: always great when they come to Sydney. Last time they

647
00:31:00,773 --> 00:31:05,813
Speaker 6: came to Sydney, they lost. So I really hope the

648
00:31:05,813 --> 00:31:09,293
Speaker 6: Broncos can do it for McGuire's sake, and maybe maybe

649
00:31:09,293 --> 00:31:09,693
Speaker 6: they will.

650
00:31:09,973 --> 00:31:10,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe.

651
00:31:10,853 --> 00:31:15,293
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought Manly were very average without DC, which

652
00:31:15,293 --> 00:31:17,173
Speaker 3: I did sort of flag on last week's pod. Thirty

653
00:31:17,173 --> 00:31:19,853
Speaker 3: points to ten. They lost to a paramount side without

654
00:31:19,853 --> 00:31:22,453
Speaker 3: Mitchell Moses. Yeah, that's a real tough one to pack.

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00:31:22,493 --> 00:31:23,213
Speaker 3: I'll go Manly.

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00:31:23,453 --> 00:31:25,333
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think there's a few things.

657
00:31:25,053 --> 00:31:27,893
Speaker 3: Bubbling away off field at Brisbane, which tends to be

658
00:31:28,013 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 3: every season, but it seems to be getting in the

659
00:31:31,213 --> 00:31:33,253
Speaker 3: way of the on field performance right onto the big

660
00:31:33,293 --> 00:31:37,013
Speaker 3: one for a lot of fans and listeners of this podcast.

661
00:31:37,093 --> 00:31:41,453
Speaker 3: In terms of Warriors on the road facing the South

662
00:31:41,493 --> 00:31:45,893
Speaker 3: Sydney rabbit Os, It's a two pm local kickoff at

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00:31:45,933 --> 00:31:50,093
Speaker 3: Akor Stadium, so four pm Sunday for us here in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. James Fisher Harris will be back from suspension.

665
00:31:54,853 --> 00:31:57,693
Speaker 3: Mitch Barnett an outside chance. I would have thought he'll

666
00:31:57,733 --> 00:32:01,053
Speaker 3: be named either as a starter or on an extended

667
00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:04,613
Speaker 3: reserves bench and provided he gets through Wednesday, okay, he

668
00:32:04,653 --> 00:32:08,293
Speaker 3: should play rabbit Oze. It's always been a tough one history,

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00:32:08,653 --> 00:32:10,373
Speaker 3: hasn't it for the Warriors Birds.

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00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:12,053
Speaker 4: How do you see this one playing now?

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00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:12,573
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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00:32:12,613 --> 00:32:14,293
Speaker 6: I mean It's good that it's a Sunday because that

673
00:32:14,373 --> 00:32:17,253
Speaker 6: does give Mitch Bunnett a bit of extra time. Let's

674
00:32:17,293 --> 00:32:20,013
Speaker 6: just see how banged up he gets some origin. Hopefully

675
00:32:20,373 --> 00:32:24,613
Speaker 6: he's okay because he is vital, as is Fisher Harris.

676
00:32:24,733 --> 00:32:27,933
Speaker 6: As we've seen against the Raiders when they're not there. Look,

677
00:32:27,973 --> 00:32:30,213
Speaker 6: they've got the rabbit o's and then the week after,

678
00:32:30,293 --> 00:32:32,413
Speaker 6: as you said, they've got Creneller away. You would have

679
00:32:32,453 --> 00:32:35,253
Speaker 6: thought that the rabbit os is really a game to

680
00:32:35,293 --> 00:32:38,733
Speaker 6: target because Crenella will be extremely tough the way they're going,

681
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:41,333
Speaker 6: So this is a big one. They've got to be

682
00:32:41,333 --> 00:32:43,973
Speaker 6: a lot better across the park. They can be a

683
00:32:43,973 --> 00:32:46,133
Speaker 6: lot better across the park. The question will be can

684
00:32:46,173 --> 00:32:48,133
Speaker 6: they take their chances. I'm sure the yardage game will

685
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:50,533
Speaker 6: be okay, But as you say, you're exactly right. Rabbits

686
00:32:50,533 --> 00:32:55,293
Speaker 6: traditionally always cause problem for the Warriors. I remember a

687
00:32:55,293 --> 00:32:57,733
Speaker 6: lot of bad losses over the years. I will tip

688
00:32:57,773 --> 00:33:01,133
Speaker 6: the Warriors here to bounce back. I think there's enough

689
00:33:01,133 --> 00:33:03,853
Speaker 6: in this team that they can bounce back quickly, but

690
00:33:03,933 --> 00:33:04,773
Speaker 6: they'll need to be good.

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00:33:05,173 --> 00:33:06,853
Speaker 4: They will be They will need to be good.

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00:33:06,933 --> 00:33:10,733
Speaker 3: Rather the one in car uraging sign that I would

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00:33:10,773 --> 00:33:12,893
Speaker 3: point out as yet that the Warriors have been really

694
00:33:12,893 --> 00:33:14,733
Speaker 3: good after a loss.

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00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:18,493
Speaker 4: After the Vegas loss, they won. After the Melbourne mauling,

696
00:33:18,733 --> 00:33:19,173
Speaker 4: they won.

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00:33:19,933 --> 00:33:24,173
Speaker 3: So let's hope that that trend continues and losing streaks

698
00:33:24,173 --> 00:33:27,053
Speaker 3: don't become a theme in season twenty twenty five.

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00:33:27,093 --> 00:33:28,933
Speaker 4: So I will go the Warriors.

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00:33:29,093 --> 00:33:34,933
Speaker 3: Then it's so we wish Sydney, Derby, Penrith and Paramatta.

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00:33:35,093 --> 00:33:36,773
Speaker 5: Yeah, this should be a good one. Actually, shouldn't remember

702
00:33:36,773 --> 00:33:38,813
Speaker 5: just a few years ago when these two teams were

703
00:33:38,853 --> 00:33:40,293
Speaker 5: two of the best teams of the comp and of

704
00:33:40,333 --> 00:33:44,933
Speaker 5: course there was the Grand Final in twenty two.

705
00:33:45,013 --> 00:33:48,053
Speaker 6: So this should be because Paramatta is showing some signs

706
00:33:48,053 --> 00:33:50,693
Speaker 6: finally of getting going a bit this year. I'm going

707
00:33:50,773 --> 00:33:54,373
Speaker 6: to tip the Panthers though, because it's unusual for them

708
00:33:54,653 --> 00:33:55,813
Speaker 6: to have two losses in the role.

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00:33:55,853 --> 00:33:58,973
Speaker 3: But Seevan teens Burge the last ye.

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00:33:59,533 --> 00:34:02,293
Speaker 6: They have had a crazy season this year. Yeah, do

711
00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:03,973
Speaker 6: you write them off for they gone? Can they still

712
00:34:04,013 --> 00:34:04,453
Speaker 6: make the eighth?

713
00:34:04,613 --> 00:34:08,253
Speaker 4: No that I will Nick Buley guarantee here they will

714
00:34:08,493 --> 00:34:08,733
Speaker 4: the eight.

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00:34:09,053 --> 00:34:10,893
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, I like that. I will have to.

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00:34:10,973 --> 00:34:14,133
Speaker 6: We'll make a notice and we'll look back. But I

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00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:15,733
Speaker 6: kite agree with you. I was reading a piece in

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00:34:15,733 --> 00:34:18,373
Speaker 6: the Cidny Morning Herald about a month ago where they've

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00:34:18,413 --> 00:34:20,333
Speaker 6: already been written off, saying they can't make the eight.

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00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:20,893
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:22,973
Speaker 6: They're the kind of team that can constring ten to

722
00:34:22,973 --> 00:34:25,973
Speaker 6: eleven games together and suddenly you know they're not going

723
00:34:26,053 --> 00:34:28,453
Speaker 6: to be first or second, probably not even top four.

724
00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:31,413
Speaker 6: But if they get to fifth or six, they're still dangerous.

725
00:34:31,413 --> 00:34:33,773
Speaker 6: So ye, I'll go with the Panthers here to win

726
00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:35,413
Speaker 6: the Battle of West Sydney.

727
00:34:35,493 --> 00:34:36,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with the Panthers as well, And just

728
00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 3: to illustrate my confidence the Panthers. Yes, there are nine points,

729
00:34:40,493 --> 00:34:44,893
Speaker 3: three wins, seven losses, and a drawer against the Cowboys,

730
00:34:44,933 --> 00:34:50,093
Speaker 3: but there's just three points separating seventeenth and eighth, so

731
00:34:50,693 --> 00:34:53,653
Speaker 3: it seems a long way away, but an actual fact,

732
00:34:53,653 --> 00:34:55,733
Speaker 3: when you study the table little bit more, it isn't.

733
00:34:56,093 --> 00:34:59,973
Speaker 3: So there's just enough class there and Ivan Cleary's going

734
00:35:00,013 --> 00:35:01,373
Speaker 3: to figure it out. They're going to figure it out

735
00:35:01,373 --> 00:35:03,053
Speaker 3: at some stage, and they'd be the last team I

736
00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:06,053
Speaker 3: want to play first round in September to just round

737
00:35:06,093 --> 00:35:07,933
Speaker 3: things out. Birds here and now I'll supposed to be

738
00:35:08,013 --> 00:35:11,853
Speaker 3: quick fire predictions, but there's anything but Roosters Raiders, which

739
00:35:11,893 --> 00:35:15,213
Speaker 3: in itself has a fair bit of history between these

740
00:35:15,213 --> 00:35:17,853
Speaker 3: two teams as well, And I'm sure Ricky Stiett will

741
00:35:17,893 --> 00:35:21,573
Speaker 3: be lacking very little motivation to get up against the

742
00:35:21,613 --> 00:35:22,773
Speaker 3: Sydney Roosters. Yeah.

743
00:35:22,813 --> 00:35:24,893
Speaker 6: I think there's still some herd from that from that

744
00:35:24,973 --> 00:35:27,133
Speaker 6: Grand Final and a couple of dusty calls. They think

745
00:35:27,133 --> 00:35:29,653
Speaker 6: they've got this game. Probably depends on what happens, not

746
00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:32,253
Speaker 6: make excuses for myself, but probably depends on what happens

747
00:35:32,453 --> 00:35:35,773
Speaker 6: at the judiciary, because if Tarpani and someone else ends

748
00:35:35,813 --> 00:35:39,613
Speaker 6: up out, it does change things for them quite a bit.

749
00:35:40,213 --> 00:35:42,333
Speaker 6: But I really like what the Raiders are doing this year.

750
00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:44,013
Speaker 6: They're they're a good team. Man, They're going to be

751
00:35:44,053 --> 00:35:45,973
Speaker 6: right in it in the final. So I'll tip the

752
00:35:46,053 --> 00:35:48,933
Speaker 6: Raiders against a resurgent Roosters.

753
00:35:49,173 --> 00:35:52,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Raiders as well.

754
00:35:52,413 --> 00:35:54,613
Speaker 3: I think that is an important caveat to note if

755
00:35:54,613 --> 00:35:57,533
Speaker 3: they were to be without a Tarpany or potentially a

756
00:35:57,613 --> 00:35:59,933
Speaker 3: Huts and young post origin. But they look like a

757
00:36:00,013 --> 00:36:03,093
Speaker 3: very complete team, a very well balanced team. Like the

758
00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:05,973
Speaker 3: way they go about their work through the middle, they

759
00:36:05,973 --> 00:36:07,853
Speaker 3: make yardage, they're back five.

760
00:36:08,053 --> 00:36:09,533
Speaker 4: I thought we didn't really get to but they were

761
00:36:09,533 --> 00:36:10,173
Speaker 4: super impressive.

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00:36:10,173 --> 00:36:14,933
Speaker 3: The lots of to Balley Savage said Chris, so yeah,

763
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:18,773
Speaker 3: we'll go with the Green Machine to continue.

764
00:36:18,373 --> 00:36:18,773
Speaker 2: To roll on.

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00:36:18,853 --> 00:36:22,133
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Speaker 3: Sunday four pm The Warrior is away to the South

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Speaker 3: Sydney Rabbit os My thanks to you, Michael Burgess. One

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Speaker 3: name is Nick Bewley. Have a great week.

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