1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Heather Do for cl So food Stuffs has announced it 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: will appeal the COMMUS Commission's decision not to allow its 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: merger of its North and South Island operations. Food Stuff's 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: North Island CEO Chris quinn I was talking to Kerry 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: wood In this morning and said he doesn't believe a 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: merger will substantially lessen competition, just like the COMMOS Commission 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: thinks it will. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: These are two regional cooperatives. We don't compete with each 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: other in any way in a retail market, and we 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: don't compete. 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: To buy groceries of suppliers. 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Now. 13 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Neil Anderson is a competition lawyer at amb Competition Lawyers 14 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: and with US. 15 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Now hey Neil, Hello Heather. 16 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: It's rare, isn't it for a court to overturn a 17 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: COMMOS Commission decision like this one, isn't it? 18 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: It is rare, But it's actually rare for it to 19 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: come in front of a court in the first place. Really, 20 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: not a whole lot of declines by the Commas Commission 21 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: are appealed for practical reasons more than anything else. 22 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Why do courts so rarely overturn them? 23 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's partly what I just said, which 24 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: is there are very few instances of appeals actually taken. 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: I think it's primarily that. So you know, the commercial parties, 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: by the time they've been through a clearance process, you know, 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: and then are faced with an appeal process which may 28 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: push them out of fairther six months. It's quite unusual 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: for a deal to be able to survive that. Normally, 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 2: if you get declined, that's the commercial parties walk away. 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: So most declines of the Commons Commission aren't actually tested 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: in the courts at all. 33 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: So that would suggest that that that Food Stuffs believes 34 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: it has a strong case right because this is going 35 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: to cost them a lot of money and a lot 36 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: of time taking this to court, isn't it. 37 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be, but it may also just reflect 38 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: that they're not on a burning platform with their transactions. 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: So it's probably one that can be done at any time, 40 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: and you know they can wait. You know, there's not 41 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: another buyer and the wings or you know that this 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: is their only deal they have in front of them, 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: and you know, they probably have the time to work 44 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: through to a conclusion for a deal that they obviously 45 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: think is valuable. So they're probably in a rare position 46 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: commit to actually pursue their legal rights. 47 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Neil, thank you very much, really appreciate your time. 48 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: It's Neil Anderson, competition Lawyer at AMB Competition Lawyers. For 49 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news 50 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the 51 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio